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My name is Simon d'Entremont and I'm a professional wildlife and nature photographer from Eastern Canada. In this video I'll share with you what I think about the new Canon EOS R8, including wildlife!
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Which camera body do you aspire to own someday , and why? I'm always looking for information on my viewers to make relevant videos!
I expect to stick with Sony for the foreseeable future (I'd have to take a big loss to sell all my lenses and accessories and rebuy from a new manufacturer). I currently use an A7IV as my primary camera, mostly for photography. I get up to 10fps with mechanical shutter. Someday I'd like to have a stacked sensor body with higher speed burst shooting and minimal rolling shutter effect in video. That might mean picking up a used A1 or waiting to see what a future A9 markIII can do
R8 as long as the EF mount will work with all my EF lenses which I am figuring out
R10 or R7, depending on when my EOS 1100D dies and how much money can i spend when it does. Also depends on if my current lenses can resolve the 32mpx sensor of the R7 or not.
Olympus OMD EM 1 mark 3 -- superb ZUIKO optics and excelent IBIS
@@cswatson4823 Yup, using the EF to RF adapter
The R8 is worth every penny. Also, I’m 6’4 with extremely large hands and I have zero problems with the size of the camera. I guess some people just want to carry around a 40 inch flat screen or something.
Am with you on this 😂😂😂
hahahaha well said.
hahahaha well said, waiting for my r8 and i cant wait to change to canon
I have big hands too
I’m trying to upgrade from a m50
Thanks for this. I always trust your opinion.
It's amazing in how under a year you have become one of the best photography resources on youtube. I don't even do wildlife photography but I have learned so much from your videos and you are a natural teacher.
I've pre-ordered one in february and received it pretty early. Got almost 2k shots with it by now and learning something new every day. All my lenses are stabilized and since I have no comparison, I don't miss anything. Like the ibis. I'm getting addicted more and more and it's wonderful. Very happy with the cam and I know that the cam is capable and now its on me to get the good shots! As always: You videos help me a lot Simon. Thanks for that.
Your videos are the best Simon. Super packed with information.
Cheers!
VERY worthwhile, informative review! I wish other reviewers could be even half as good. Great job!
This camera is for people like me. I don’t get paid to take photos, but I’m an enthusiast who likes to take the best possible photos (especially landscapes). But I’m also on a budget and can’t justify a $2k or more purchase. I just finished a mountain trip with my new R8 and I was very pleased with the results. This camera opened up new photo opportunities for me without costing too much. Now I just need a better lens…
I know this was posted 9 months ago but what lens(es) do you use?
@@SatisfiedOnion also curious about lenses
Great video ! 3 things make me consider the R6 Mk2: I have some older EF lenses without stabilisation (200mm f/2.8L), so IBIS is much appreciated. Also I like that on the R6 Mk2 the sensor is protected when the camera is turned off. And last: the 12 fps mechanical shutter ...
Your approach provides a valuable insight. Almost seems like being right there as you shoot. Thank you for an honest and practical demonstration.
He is as good, the best I have ever tried to learn from .. a true master
Great video Simon, Thanks for the information and congrats on the new course !!
Great balanced and practical camera review, Simon - just like your wildlife technique videos. You’re the best. Enjoy your safari. Looking forward to seeing your photos from that excursion.
Great video. Always a treat when you review equipment. Can’t think of anyone I’d rather hear it from. I love compact mirrorless bodies as I hike for many miles on weekend mornings searching for anything from owls to butterflies. I personally use Sony. No particular reason why. I like their apsc cameras a lot. This one looks awesome! Wish Sony would take some notes from canon sometimes. Sony has been rather lazy lately.
Just bought myself an r8 with two rf lenses and im in love with the photos i took of my animals and its only been a day. Cant wait to travel with it. Love the review!
Another very detailed video....but presented in a way both advanced and beginner can understand and learn from. Well done on your colabaration. The course will be money very well spent.
This was such an amazing video to watch I didn't want it to end.
Thanks for another great video, just back from a short trip to northern Denmark (holiday, but did manage to do some photography). Thanks to your videos and tips I managed to get some shots I'm very satisfied with!
There’s no one like you in TH-cam. Master; you just kick a…….! What a blessing learning from you! Now Im pondering to return to Canon. That’s what we use at AFN!
Excellent review Simon! Thanks.
Simon, this was a great review of the camera. Most "haters" will mention the lack of IBIS, short battery life etc. and they just want the best for the lowest price possible. We all know this is not the case. This is a good upgrade from a cropped sensor camera like I am thinking now. For non professional photographers I see this camera as an excellent option.
Simon, great job as always - you make it look sooooo easy.
I absolutely love mine!
Just got the R8 as my first ever camera a couple of weeks ago and I’ve been waiting for your review! I’m excited to continue to learn about photography and I’m excited because it seems like this will be a great camera for me to begin learning on and grow with as my skills grow. Thanks for a fantastic review!
bro, my first camera too. just order from cannon. really excited. Also which lens you got? i ordered RF 24-105
@@shuvo8146 I got the 24-50 but also ordered a 50mm f/1.8 that I’m waiting for! Happy shooting!
Great product review. Generally one gets get the features and performance they pay for. I like how you show the advantages and disadvantages of each design decision Canon made. For example a smaller battery or the shutter mechanism. Budget dictates what you can get in a camera so being practical about what you get is helpful. What is really interesting is that the door to wildlife photography is definitely open at low cost when you consider an inexpensive lens option such as the RF 100-400mm USM.
Awesome video Simon, thank you so much
Awesome. Thanks Simon.
great info-thanks
Another great video! Using the customize buttons menu I mapped the d pad to 'Direct AF point selection' so I could move the AF point around.
Great tip!
I have the R8, it does everything i need, and it does it well! I have smaller hands and it feels great!
I just bought a EOS RP for my first camera, pretty excited to use it on my trip to Montana. I'm new to photography and still learning how to use my camera properly, your videos have helped me so much and for that, I thank you.
fantastic, thank you
I have the R5 and just got the R3 from Camera Canada, the R3 is mind blowing, great video as always Simon!!
Beautiful shots, especially of the red-winged blackbird!
What I do is use hi without a plus which is 20fps electronic shutter. Your buffer doubles and you get around 150 shots in compressed raw or joeg. 20fps is very fast it is what r5 can do with a fresh battery. I do use 40fps mode sometimes but I highly recommend using 20fps which is plenty fast for many things and no buffer issues
Thanks for sharing another wonderful video like always 👍🤗
Love your very informative and positive attitude towards the R8. It was a great 5Diii replacement for me, wanting to have a significantly lighter body but still full-frame.
Good choice!
Simon, thanks for the concise exploration of the R8. While I am still heavily leaning toward the R7 you gave me lots to think about.
You have a great channel. Very direct easy to understand very intelligent. Thank you for your efforts.
Thank you very much for this video. I have the R8 with the 24-105 f/4 L since about one month, and I'm very happy with it so far, while still getting used to all the new features it offers compared to my old 7D.
Now I have to save up some money to buy a new tele zoom lens. I really hope the Sigma 150-600 Sport will be available for the R-mount soon.
Thank you for providing such helpful video. Just wanted to know more about any heating issue of R8 since I have found many such videos on TH-cam recently.
thank you for the information! R8 has a great value in it.
Now this was a review I could get into. It didn't feel as though you worked for canon. Well done. I enjoy your videos!!!
Very helpful - I am in the market to upgrade from the Canon M50 to an entry-level full-frame - between the EOS RP or R8 - and think your review has sold me on the latter. Thanks!
Excellent video with great, practical information. Thanks for sharing!
Your tracking accuracy and flow are PERFECTION… incredible
Good review Simon
Merci Simon pour la vidéo et bonne chance pour l'objectif .
Nice one I was tempted to upgrade my r6 to the r6 mk2 but instead I’m now tempted to just get the r8 as an additional body maybe pair it with the rf800 f11
Nice info, thanks
Very useful, thks. (Ps. Some lovely images !! )
I've been hesitant to buy this camera because of some of the reduced or lacking features. I'm glad that you mentioned that the EVF isn't significantly worse than the more expensive Canons.
Fab info, was wondering about mirror less options
Great review. Perhaps this R8 will finally replace my old 550D...
Great review! I have been considering this camera.
Excellent review, very thorough and intelligent. I think this will fit my needs. The problem of the hiker/photographer-manage pack weight and camera features/quality. The light R8 may fit the bill nicely.
Great to see more lightweight and price-accesible bodies out there!
I like this channel a lot, although I’m in different camp. And I’m not in wildlife phitogtaphy. Neverthrless, this is one of the most educative channel for photography overall. It never becomes boring.
Excellent video! Super informative. I'm kind of torn right now re: an astro camera to replace my 6D, which finally wore out. Been thinking of the R6 MK II but it's pricier and I'm an old bird on a budget. :) I'm a committed Canon shooter though and I have a lot of EF lenses. So your video gives me another possible option. Thanks!
So cool! Happy subscriber. A lot of great content 😊.
Great video, Simon.
Looks like a very useful camera to have Simon. I was impressed. And I use Fuji. 😮
You make a great case for this camera and it’s one I’m considering as my first mirrorless. Wonder if you could do a follow up on suggested lenses for someone getting started (or new to Canon). Lack of third party glass steers a lot of people to Sony.
I'm hoping more generalist photographers will find your enjoyable and helpful reviews. I take probably one bird photo every 3-5 years. I'm 81, 56 years a pro photographer and find lots of value here. The problem with Canon used to be that they crippled their low-end cameras; now it's an embarrassment of riches! I could use them all; thankfully the R6 covers the bases beautifully.
Idea for a show….How would recommend we care for our camera and lens in a marine environment like being out on a boat or on the beach around salt air? Cleaning recommendations? Lenses cleaning? Thanks. I am so happy I found your page!
First of all I'd like to say very good through review of the camera. Thanks a lot! Secondly I'd like to ask your opinion on this camera. I'm a fairly long time Canon DSLR shooter (mostly 7D) and I'm about to switch over to mirrorless. Full frame isn't a must have but while I'm making a change I'd like to switch over to FF finally as well. I'm not a pro by all means but when I do something I'd like to do it as best as I can. I mostly shoot birds like seagulls which doesn't really count as wildlife in my opinion, outdoor sports like soccer, voleyball or tennis and a little bit of macro. With my new camera I'd like to take a serious step into portrait photography as well. The setup I have in mind, at least to start off, is Canon R8 with Canon 24-105L f4, 50mm f1.8 stm using the adaptor. What do you think of this setup? Autofocus is important and I'm a bit worries about using adapters.
Yes please
I've been waiting for this!
Thank you
You're welcome
I have never in my 62 years owned a single Cannon camera. No specific reason other than my first being Pentax and then moved to Nikon Digital. I don't have a negative reason for no Cannon, just never purchased one. I would like to give the new OM1 a try. Thanks for sharing
Never had any issue with Canon DPP4 & it's all i use to edit images, the only other programs i use are Gimp for combining my milkyway nightscapes, sequator for stacking the milkyway sky images and Microsoft ICE for panorama's. As for what I'd like to upgrade to from my little 200d, not sure any more but was looking at a 6d mkii
Hi Simon - thanks for another very great video. I have bought the R8 as a travel camera in addition to my R5 and I love it. Regarding the battery indicator I have seen so many reviews saying "I didn't even used a single tick". The reason is that three ticks (maximum) means sufficient battery, two ticks means low battery. Really hope Canon will change this - how it is now is misleading, and probably to cover for the 'small' battery. There is no reason for this as the battery is 'okay', but, Canon, please let us know what is left on the battery as 100/75/50/25 that most other camera's.
My EOS R's menu has more accurate battery information. I believe the R8 also has. SET UP3. Battery Info.
@@michelecintramika8482 Nope - same indicator. Going from “all fine” straight to “change battery”.
Another excellent and informative video Simon and I have now caught up on all your videos. It is not just your photographic skills and knowledge that locked me in but your totally relatable mannerisms and unbounded joy displayed when you are out amongst nature. I too have learnt bird calls and feel this has helped in certain situations, my ability to get in closer. I also especially appreciated your low-light shooting video (including a beautiful12800 ISO shot). I am recently retired (funnily enough from Veterans' Affairs NZ) and use the R6 here and 100-500mm lens. Your analysis of the R6 sensor in low light I found VERY informative (verses the R5). We have a range of unique forest dwelling birds here in New Zealand, often found on or near the forest floor and in lower light situations. Hope to see you down here one day Simon as the birdlife here is quite unique and would test you in many different environments. Judging by the number of calendars you sent down here you would be very welcome in NZ. Hope you enjoy your Africa safari!
Thanks Mike!
So agree regarding the "pre-recording" the DPP is a drag to use and selecting "in camera" is a terrible option, I also agree half a second is enough. I just hope Canon improve the processing on this (using the R6ii)
Thanks Simon,I like your honest and concise evaluation of the equipment you review.R8 is the RP replacement and the aftermarket battery grips fit and double shoot times.The price is fair and even fairer when the Xmas sales come(I;m buying).
I have the R5 and the R7 along with the original Canon EOS R....I like them all I do think that each one has its own purpose and personality if that makes sense lol I mainly shoot the Canon R for landscape and for wildlife I shoot the R5 My wife however has taken over the r7 and absolutely loves that camera.
Been thinking about getting the R7 myself as a replacement for a 70D.
I have the R10, the same battery the r8 uses, and with changing a few settings I have no problem shooting 400-600 shots with half a charge on my battery
Dang if only i had the extra cash to take your class. Would you buy the r6 referbished over the r7? Im wanting to upgrade at the end of the year. I have been trying to figure out what to buy. I only have a 400mm f5.6. Cant wait to see some more videos on the r8. Have a good day.
I will never not get excited by that sick heads on eagle 🦅 video
would you recommend this or the r6 for an all rounder photography camera? is the sensor resolution difference a deal breaker?
I remember going out with two rolls of Kodak Ektachrome and waiting almost a week for the results, setting up the projector, It was a great time, wondering how things were going to turn out.........Photography was sure different those days, love the videos.
I remember too the anticipation of getting some freshly developed slides back. I think it felt like when one of my kids opens a pack of Pokemon cards!
I have recently purchased the R8 for creating underwater video's. I was a bit disappointed in the fact that the camera does not have IBIS, which makes me dependant on lens stabilisation. Stabilisation is very important underwater. However, I have come across a very interesting solution for extra stability! Have you heard of the GyroFlow software? When pairing a camera like the R8 with an actioncam such as a GoPro mounted next to each other, the software can use the gyro data from the GoPro, to accurately correct for small movements. I'm excited to try this out, as the GoPro is already in my possession! I think this a lot more accurate then the digital stabilisation canon offers.
Is this a good first full frame ? Also So with the lack of a mechanical shutter, is a cameras shutter count no longer important? Do you have a video regarding the differences / pros/cons of mechanical vs electronic?
I'm loving the R8.. I picked up photography back when the EOS Rebel xt was new and started down the path.. family tragedy hit and I walked away a few short years later.. Just recently due to a couple of friends, as well as a few photographers from the east coast I follow,,, My interest was re-ignited, so I pre-ordered and received the R8.. I'm loving this thing especially beside the Mini 3 pro drone I have..
I wasn't about to put out the money for the R6MII or anything similar, not knowing if I will stick with photography in general,, or which direction in photography I will gravitate toward..
I've taken it a few times now out to the coast for a beach cleanup under not so favorable weather,, as well as a birthday party with all sorts of colors and movement,, and I gotta say I'm extremely happy so far with my choice.. I can only hope to outlearn and outgrow this camera,, for me it's an awesome buy.
it would be nice if they put the C1 and C2 next to Manual on the dial.
I'm not sure if you answered this already but I couldn't find it - what do you think about super zoom bridge cameras?
Like Nikon P950 or Canon SX70 HS?
I know that they are not full frame but they are much cheaper than "normal" camera and lenses. Actually P950 already is stretching my budget.
I've never had a real camera but I would really like one with good zoom. Primarily for birding and other wildlife.
I've never had a full frame camera, but have an interest in Milky Way photography. I'm glad to hear the R8 would be fine for that!
Put a fast lens on it and you’re golden. Check out my video for tips. th-cam.com/video/hz0fcW7rcpg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=D65o6wWxI1OY9tXk
Great review. I've had my R8 for a couple weeks. Much to learn. Trying to understand. There is no option/setting for second shutter?
yes, theres a shutter option. You need to be in photo mode.
That's interesting about the battery life. I have a Canon 850D (T8i) that uses the same battery. Being a DSLR it has to power more mechanically actuated stuff than a mirrorless. I often get 500+ images per battery but just last week shooting in Arkansas I was usually in auto-bracket mode and I almost never got more than the mid 200s per battery. Some of that was with an older Canon IS lens but more often not. I'm not sure why it was using more power but that battery is indeed a decent performer for its size.
That was interesting. I'm far from professional and sticking to a smaller budget for my equipment. At the moment I have an old 6D which does get nice photos but is showing it's age in many ways.
I've been interested in R models as I'd like to use the camera for videos as well but they've been a bit on the expensive side. R8 would definitely be within my reach. Does sound worth considering. I don't have that many lenses however so I'll have to see what other manufacturers are offering as well when I feel comfortable buying something like this.
An R8 with IBIS would have been a best seller!!! It's sensor is one of Canon best sensors ever made. Thank you.
Agree, but them it would be close to an R6.
Thank you,
Please contact your contacts at Canon and find out when the updated firmware for the 90D will be released.
Just got the R8 as a "studio camera" myself.
Are you using it in webcam mode or with a video capture device or just recording internally?
For me the abilty to plug it in and use as a webcam was another "studio feature" I wanted to take advantage of.
Awesome video! Quick question: do you happen to know how low the shutter speed can go in videos? Looking for a camera that can do that cool slow/delayed shutter effect. Thanks!
I’ve shot 1/30th second but it looks a bit wonky. It could work for some artistic effect perhaps.
Great review Simon. Just subscribed . Practical and thorough. Is the color science that much better on the R8 than the R6 ? I heard using the R8 with glasses is also not as nice as with the R6. Want to be able to grow over time with my purchase. Would you pick a Used R6 over a new R8 for someone who wants a good/ great growth potential for portraits and event photography where video is not important and wildlife is just an occasional consideration. Thank you so much.😊
I would probably take a used R6, but not for colour science, but for battery life, stabilized sensor and customizability/buttons/dials.
I will pay the price of r6ii for a r8 with IBIS, with minimal increase in the weight and size. +RF50.8 is perfect.
All love to u❤
Great video, as allways... BTW, between R7 and R8, would you go for the full frame or stick with a more "jacked up" aps-c?
Generally, full frame for better low light, and APS-C for reach.
But better to compare the R7 with the R6 or 5. If you’re familiar with Canon’s pre-mirrorless lineup, the R7 is the 7D, which was their crop version of the 5D. Then the 6D came in after.
I currently have the Canon 77d and I need an upgrade desperately. I’m probably getting the R8 and I’ll be using an adapter since I already have a lot of glass 😅
First of all I'm really enjoying your content I'm learning a lot about editing and photographic landscapes, which is what I also want to start photographing I'm looking for my first camera I was thinking about a Canon R50 or R10 to start this journey I would like to know if they are good options or should you look for something different in that price range, thank you very much
For landscapes, also consider an R8 full frame.
Hi, I have an R7 and I'm looking for a backup camera, the R6 is out of my budget, but this R8 seems good to me, thank you for your, again, perfect explanation. Ooh and I have the 70-300 L from Canon but also the Sigma Contemporary 600mm, so perfect for the R8, wildlife shooting
Having one crop and one full frame is a sweet combo.
Thank you for this video. I've been researching Canon R camera and was undecided before seeing this video. I'm not shopping for a R8!
Glad it was helpful!