@@hughhou I have evo , vuze. Evo I like the best but any action scene at 30 for sucks. Your video really illustrates that. Trying to film paragliders flying and it looks bad. Hope new vr180 has 60fpm.
So, already 2 years has passed since making this video. The FM Duo still seems to be in the extreme price range (around 20 K USD), and the thing that seems to me to best fill the gap seems to be the Canon R5C with the dual fisheye lens at a combined price of about 4K. But I would expect that there will soon be an 8k at 60 fps camera for under 10k ... must be ... it's a niche whose time has come (use case is VR audiences for sports ... will be a massive market).
I always enjoy your video's. I have a evo360 and for its size and price its an amazing camera. You mentioned there maybe a new consumer VR180 camera coming soon, do you have any more info on this, specs etc? BTW, I'm quite interested in Unreal Engine 5. particularly for film making, have you any experience with this? I also wish you would make more video's for Davinci Resolve Studio, particularly on the VR180 side of things. (How to improve image quality etc for the evo360). Keep up the good work!
In his comparison the evo does not look to bad for its price I watched this in occulus tv and insta still holds up. Wish it had a 60 frame mode . Maybe next one.
Insta360 Evo user here. I was really disappointed to see the other VR180 cameras being discontinued. I love that I can record my children growing up in full 3d, its so much better than watching a flat video. do you know of a new consumer VR180 coming to market or are you just assuming it will.
Man I wish they didn't discontinue the Evo360... I would have bought more if i knew...and Insta360 never even released the VR180 attachment, which is why I never bought their new camera!
Same boat here. No idea why they never release One R VR180 mount. As I saw it in person before evo even release. I think they never figure out software to support it :(
@@hughhou Brother, I hope you're great! I always love to hear your inside response in VR180, especially. And Yes, I believe they still might consider releasing in the future because for a while, they stopped on their website “coming soon,” and now they have it back again. I spoke to an insta360 camera support in California, and they didn't deny or affirmed this #3DMod coming out. They only say that they don't know when it will be released. I wish they could have sent you personally at least a prototype for you to check and give it a go! And I'm stoked to know who will be releasing a prosumer VR180 camera soon, as you said in your last video 😈
How to watch this video in 8K VR180? Quest 2 streams 4K low res sub-stream and the TH-cam App on Steam VR for HP Reverb G2 is broken long time ago. 4K Videodownloader gets 3840x3840 VP9 .MKV of only one eye. Better upload the 8K video "as download-version" without VR180 metadata for downloading and watching offline in 8K.
@@ProtoVisionXR God youtube VR really sucks. I also hate the way my controllers stay in view with the laser pointer when a video is playing. Anyway, I don't suppose you know if Oculus TV will accept 200 degree fov that the K2pro can produce?
@@bingobriano6021 I watched this video on TH-cam’s native Quest app, and it seems they improved the video resolution. I can just make out facial features that you start to see at HD on flat screen resolutions. It’s definitely not the full resolution that Quest 2 is capable of but they bumped it up a tiny bit. Check it out. As for VR/180 or 200 degrees that the K2 delivers, Quest 2 can take an 8k delivery and it looks pretty good. Watch the David Attenborough videos on Oculus TV or Soda Island videos on Quill and you’ll see the Quest 2 is pretty crisp. The Adam Savage videos I think were done on K1 and they look OK. Quest 2 actually has pretty high resolution display compared to the competition which is remarkable considering the price. The main problem is that there are very few cameras that can take advantage of that full resolution. And if they can it is very costly. 12k is what I imagine FHD for VR to be. For that Oculus needs to bump up the resolution limits past 8k on deliverables which they should be able to do but I imagine they had concerns regarding storage.
Sorry I just saw this comment. But this video has a Oculus TV version! Check description. Oculus TV has 8K H265 pass tho - my Oculus TV channel has that features. Watch my Oculus TV tutorial. You can cache high quality and download this video directly from Oculus into your Quest 2 and watch in 8K 60fps! That is how you should see this video. The TH-cam VR version is for ppl don’t have Quest 2 or use Pico Neo 3.
@@hughhou Oculus TV version was out and I have. seen. 👍 The chromatic aberration on FM360 DUO should be eneminated in sensor read out, only the blue are for color detection in post. But I know only RWATherapee for photo raw to handle it. All others make the same read out with the lime green/purple colors. 🤔
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Thanks again for the comparison! With this resolution now we are talking! Unfortunately, the price and the bulk of these cameras are not for many of us. You are right in the video, we're sick of waiting for this long-time-expected VR180 prosumer camera. Please, tell the company that we want it now! 😬
I cant believe you have that camera already!!! Can you bless us with some sample footage of the FM camera to sideload and watch on our other headset? Thanks!!!
Thank you so much for the comparison. I make all my videos with my evo's. The most things i've learned @ your channel and in your masterclass. Thank you again and again! Is the next consumer VR180 cam release in 2021?
When do you think a new VR180 solution will come along? My evo broke when at about my son being 9 months. He's now 3 and a half years old and I'm still waiting! I now have a daughter that is 3 months old and VR360 just doesn't cut it for immersion.
Thanks Hugh for the great comparison video. You always come through. It's been awhile since we've seen any movement in the 108° 3D space and the higher resolution and framerates are finally making watching 3D content in VR as enjoyable as it should be. I am really impressed with the FM DUO but sadly it's out of my price range. Still teasing about an upcoming prosumer 180° camera and I excited to hear more about it. Looking forward to more tests of the FM DUO.
There will be a new player too in $5000 range which is really good. I can’t say anything but it’s what you need! VR180 is going more prosumer world - like getting a DSLR.
Is it still possible to buy the K2 Pro? I’ve been trying to get one for the last year but nowhere seems to stock them. Also neither Z-CAM or iZugar will respond to any requests for information on it.
I am late to the party and only knew about the amazing VR180 format after buying the Quest 2 last week. Then I was stroke by the bad old news of Google dropped their VR support for good. And then found out most VR180 cameras out there were discontinued. Really hope the coming of the next updated consumer level VR180 camera is not far off.
Google did not drop VR180 support. TH-cam VR is still growing like crazy. VR180 is still their major push format. I think they just don’t spend any money advertising it like Oculus. See my latest production are all VR180 on TH-cam VR and you can watch it on PSVR, Steam with index - out of Oculus ecosystem.
@@hughhou I hope I was wrong but the one and only consumer level VR180 camera I can find at this moment is the Lenovo Mirage (probably some left over stock) but the phone app Google VR180 it needs were all pulled from Play and App store. I asked the seller what to do and he has no clue. Same goes to Samsung Gear 360. Bought one for cheap last week and shock to find the app Gear 360 was gone from my S10 Play Store. I read that the app no longer works under Android 11 update so it was pulled. May be I have phrased it wrong but Google and Samsung had stop selling their VR products (Cardboard Daydream Gear VR etc.) and pulled their software from app stores then I really can't help to think their support has ended. Hope you can disclose more about the upcoming consumer level VR180 camera you mentioned so I can join the fun real soon. Cheers.
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@@turboz551 oh wow. I have the Lenovo Mirage and just realized because of you that the app is not available anymore on the app store!
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@King Game you are right, you don't. However, you need it if you want to configure stuff inside like the quality or other settings. Also if you want to control de camera remotely and shoot manual, which it is very useful for events like weddings and such. During trips I like to pass the files to my phone so I have a security copy.
Great video... the FM DUO seems nice and sharp! But the izugar lenses still make a more realistic image. That being said as someone with a K2pro, I feel focus is an issue for me and the FM DUO does seem to solve that. Basically, I'd love if the K2 pro had a hack to shoot 8k in each eye!
FM DUO does solve the focus issues. So new production of K2 Pro solve the focus issue I have one of those for jobs for Oculus Venues - FM DUO lens connect to a laptop and use software assist focus so you can get very accurate focus. Fisheye is really hard to focus - using a laptop you can blow up and zoom in focus. The lens has very good focus ring. But CA is still a big issue.
@@hughhou Hugh, speaking of venues - do you know if there are plans to present 180 ‘live’ content in actual 3D in venues? Or is may it stumble upon a bandwidth issues? There are so many opportunities that I’m excited about.
I stumbled here looking to upgrade from insta360 EVO, it is 4 months now since you mentioned new consumer level camera in the works .... where is it ? :) ;)
@@hughhou From the spec, I see no reason to switch from insta evo 360. Qoocam has a small sensor, and is not even vr 180 as you also pointed out. :( :(
Hi Hugh! Thanks for the video and VR180 comparisons. Can I ask what FFMPEG code you used for uploading this VR180 video to Oculus TV in 8K (Max Quality) playback and caching? It looks great on Oculus TV. I know you made a video about max quality settings for Oculus Media Studio back in Aug, however you only mentioned the VR 360 FFMPEG code you use (for 5760x5760 resolution), and Eric Cheng's cheat sheet only currently gives 5.7K for VR180. I have been trying to upload VR180 footage in 8K from a custom stereo photo camera rig with FFMPEG but have been getting encoding errors from Oculus Media Studio. Thanks again for all the time and effort you put into these videos to help the VR film community!
I am planning to make that tutorial on my Masterclass - it’s not easy as it require 2 pass FFMPEG and take 20+ hours rendering time. This one use Aftercodecs tho, as I get lazy. But not recommended. FFMPEG is still best. Let me organize my notes first.
I use Davinci Resolve Studio (as 2D 7680x3840 timeline) Nvidia h265 80 MBit/s 7680x3840 at 30fps, much I-frames for slideshow. For metadata I use the Google VR180 Creator and in upload Oculus TV understand this right. Sometimes its ok, sometimes I get message about low quality😯, try again. It's a lottery with it.
You stated the FM DUO uses a Panasonic MN34450 sensor, also saying this is the same señor that is in the canon r5. This seem s hard to believe as canon makes their own sensors. Can you provided evidence to backup this statement?
I have lots of old tutorials on this channel will help you with that - basically you drop both file into Mistika VR - it will just join them for you. Make sure you know which is which eye. But it is as easy as other solution.
Okay I know you probably won't see this but I'm going to ask anyways in hopes that you do. Would it be possible to take this camera and make a 3d 360° photo? If I took photos at 90° intervals.
Yes in theory but prob need 3 instead of 2 since you need edge to stitch together and it is very hard in post. You better off use a 3D 360 camera or nodal head
it seems that all these camera become more expensive in the past 3 years. Is that right? More specifically, where to buy Insta360 EVO? Cannot find any online now. Thanks.
They discontinued the production line so you can't buy them anymore except used - but used EVO is extremely expensive - as it is still no camera like it.
@20k (more than triple the price of the k2pro) seems like there's no way anyone should buy a the fmg over the k2pro however no one can find the k2pro SMH. How much longer on this consumer camera and will it be trash like the Lenovo or actually comparable image quality to k2pro?
Hey how are you? Have not heard you for a while! FM DUO is for very high end production. There is LED wall is 3D now need 12K resolution- this is what this camera mainly for. K2Pro or even K1 is good for your use case. Did you end up get K2Pro? I have both if you have opportunities to film let us know
@@hughhou I've been blessed brother. I hope and pray you have been and continue to be as well. I had the k1pro and I sent it back because I didn't like the workload. Each eye being on separate cards, the bulky power cord, and a few other things that made it difficult to get 1st person POV shots but we should definitely chat soon. I still wanna make my film (which may be broken down into a 6 episode series) in both VR180 and HD and always wanted to hire you for the VR180 aspect. Hoping to start filming in February for a Easter Sunday premiere.
One point to mention is the FMDuo struggle on contrast I can see on the sun light at ground you get a lot halation issues compare to ZCam way better rendition on this artifacts. FMDuo look the hardware has range but lenses is not good compare to iZugar to be honest.
a trickle tease from you over the months :D .. want, want want that new Insta360 VR180 offering!
FM Duo starts at $20K,,, ouch. Cant wait for the "new" consumer level VR180 cam, can you give us a hint on the resolution Hugh?? Manufacturer??
Same here! Can the new consumer VR180 do 60fps? What’s it res?
I can’t lol. But it’s def upgrade from EVO!
@@hughhou I have evo , vuze. Evo I like the best but any action scene at 30 for sucks. Your video really illustrates that. Trying to film paragliders flying and it looks bad. Hope new vr180 has 60fpm.
Yea, exactly. An update to the insta360 Evo would be great.
@@hughhou Any update on the new vr180 consumer cam??
I have been waiting for this review for some time! Thank You!
So, already 2 years has passed since making this video. The FM Duo still seems to be in the extreme price range (around 20 K USD), and the thing that seems to me to best fill the gap seems to be the Canon R5C with the dual fisheye lens at a combined price of about 4K. But I would expect that there will soon be an 8k at 60 fps camera for under 10k ... must be ... it's a niche whose time has come (use case is VR audiences for sports ... will be a massive market).
Thanks Hugh for the comparison, my next camera will be VR 180.
I always enjoy your video's. I have a evo360 and for its size and price its an amazing camera. You mentioned there maybe a new consumer VR180 camera coming soon, do you have any more info on this, specs etc? BTW, I'm quite interested in Unreal Engine 5. particularly for film making, have you any experience with this? I also wish you would make more video's for Davinci Resolve Studio, particularly on the VR180 side of things. (How to improve image quality etc for the evo360). Keep up the good work!
In his comparison the evo does not look to bad for its price I watched this in occulus tv and insta still holds up. Wish it had a 60 frame mode . Maybe next one.
Dude I was about to say the Insta360 EVO looks amazing for the price.
@@louisvasconcelos692 I actually like the stills as well, they seem clearer. I use Davinci Resolve to improve the colour
Insta360 Evo user here. I was really disappointed to see the other VR180 cameras being discontinued. I love that I can record my children growing up in full 3d, its so much better than watching a flat video. do you know of a new consumer VR180 coming to market or are you just assuming it will.
It’s coming! Might not in this year tho.
@@hughhou Are you talking about the Canon lens?
Man I wish they didn't discontinue the Evo360... I would have bought more if i knew...and Insta360 never even released the VR180 attachment, which is why I never bought their new camera!
I'm on the same boat brother @theultimateninja
Glad I have mine. Works great with quest 2
Same boat here. No idea why they never release One R VR180 mount. As I saw it in person before evo even release. I think they never figure out software to support it :(
@@hughhou Brother, I hope you're great! I always love to hear your inside response in VR180, especially. And Yes, I believe they still might consider releasing in the future because for a while, they stopped on their website “coming soon,” and now they have it back again. I spoke to an insta360 camera support in California, and they didn't deny or affirmed this #3DMod coming out. They only say that they don't know when it will be released. I wish they could have sent you personally at least a prototype for you to check and give it a go! And I'm stoked to know who will be releasing a prosumer VR180 camera soon, as you said in your last video 😈
How to watch this video in 8K VR180? Quest 2 streams 4K low res sub-stream and the TH-cam App on Steam VR for HP Reverb G2 is broken long time ago. 4K Videodownloader gets 3840x3840 VP9 .MKV of only one eye. Better upload the 8K video "as download-version" without VR180 metadata for downloading and watching offline in 8K.
I believe if he puts it on Oculus TV then Quest 2 can certainly do the full 8K. All other methods are like you said sub par.
@@ProtoVisionXR God youtube VR really sucks. I also hate the way my controllers stay in view with the laser pointer when a video is playing. Anyway, I don't suppose you know if Oculus TV will accept 200 degree fov that the K2pro can produce?
@@bingobriano6021 I watched this video on TH-cam’s native Quest app, and it seems they improved the video resolution. I can just make out facial features that you start to see at HD on flat screen resolutions. It’s definitely not the full resolution that Quest 2 is capable of but they bumped it up a tiny bit. Check it out. As for VR/180 or 200 degrees that the K2 delivers, Quest 2 can take an 8k delivery and it looks pretty good. Watch the David Attenborough videos on Oculus TV or Soda Island videos on Quill and you’ll see the Quest 2 is pretty crisp. The Adam Savage videos I think were done on K1 and they look OK. Quest 2 actually has pretty high resolution display compared to the competition which is remarkable considering the price. The main problem is that there are very few cameras that can take advantage of that full resolution. And if they can it is very costly. 12k is what I imagine FHD for VR to be. For that Oculus needs to bump up the resolution limits past 8k on deliverables which they should be able to do but I imagine they had concerns regarding storage.
Sorry I just saw this comment. But this video has a Oculus TV version! Check description. Oculus TV has 8K H265 pass tho - my Oculus TV channel has that features. Watch my Oculus TV tutorial. You can cache high quality and download this video directly from Oculus into your Quest 2 and watch in 8K 60fps! That is how you should see this video. The TH-cam VR version is for ppl don’t have Quest 2 or use Pico Neo 3.
@@hughhou Oculus TV version was out and I have. seen. 👍 The chromatic aberration on FM360 DUO should be eneminated in sensor read out, only the blue are for color detection in post. But I know only RWATherapee for photo raw to handle it. All others make the same read out with the lime green/purple colors. 🤔
Thanks again for the comparison! With this resolution now we are talking! Unfortunately, the price and the bulk of these cameras are not for many of us. You are right in the video, we're sick of waiting for this long-time-expected VR180 prosumer camera. Please, tell the company that we want it now! 😬
I cant believe you have that camera already!!! Can you bless us with some sample footage of the FM camera to sideload and watch on our other headset? Thanks!!!
Check out the Oculus TV version and then use Cache High Quality option - that is without compression: creator.oculus.com/community/2062812510708809/
Any idea where I can buy a FM360 DUO?
Thank you so much for the comparison. I make all my videos with my evo's. The most things i've learned @ your channel and in your masterclass. Thank you again and again! Is the next consumer VR180 cam release in 2021?
Awww thank! I will make a review as soon as I can!
When do you think a new VR180 solution will come along? My evo broke when at about my son being 9 months. He's now 3 and a half years old and I'm still waiting! I now have a daughter that is 3 months old and VR360 just doesn't cut it for immersion.
No consumer camera yet. Canon R5 maybe a used one with Dualfish prob your best choice
Thanks Hugh for the great comparison video. You always come through. It's been awhile since we've seen any movement in the 108° 3D space and the higher resolution and framerates are finally making watching 3D content in VR as enjoyable as it should be. I am really impressed with the FM DUO but sadly it's out of my price range. Still teasing about an upcoming prosumer 180° camera and I excited to hear more about it. Looking forward to more tests of the FM DUO.
There will be a new player too in $5000 range which is really good. I can’t say anything but it’s what you need! VR180 is going more prosumer world - like getting a DSLR.
I love these videos! ,,, Thanks!
Is it still possible to buy the K2 Pro? I’ve been trying to get one for the last year but nowhere seems to stock them. Also neither Z-CAM or iZugar will respond to any requests for information on it.
They should tho. Mmmmm…
@@hughhou Thanks I managed to get in contact with them and mine is on order now. 🥳
I am late to the party and only knew about the amazing VR180 format after buying the Quest 2 last week. Then I was stroke by the bad old news of Google dropped their VR support for good. And then found out most VR180 cameras out there were discontinued. Really hope the coming of the next updated consumer level VR180 camera is not far off.
Quest 2 success may have made a case for vr180 again.
Google did not drop VR180 support. TH-cam VR is still growing like crazy. VR180 is still their major push format. I think they just don’t spend any money advertising it like Oculus. See my latest production are all VR180 on TH-cam VR and you can watch it on PSVR, Steam with index - out of Oculus ecosystem.
@@hughhou I hope I was wrong but the one and only consumer level VR180 camera I can find at this moment is the Lenovo Mirage (probably some left over stock) but the phone app Google VR180 it needs were all pulled from Play and App store. I asked the seller what to do and he has no clue. Same goes to Samsung Gear 360. Bought one for cheap last week and shock to find the app Gear 360 was gone from my S10 Play Store. I read that the app no longer works under Android 11 update so it was pulled. May be I have phrased it wrong but Google and Samsung had stop selling their VR products (Cardboard Daydream Gear VR etc.) and pulled their software from app stores then I really can't help to think their support has ended. Hope you can disclose more about the upcoming consumer level VR180 camera you mentioned so I can join the fun real soon. Cheers.
@@turboz551 oh wow. I have the Lenovo Mirage and just realized because of you that the app is not available anymore on the app store!
@King Game you are right, you don't. However, you need it if you want to configure stuff inside like the quality or other settings. Also if you want to control de camera remotely and shoot manual, which it is very useful for events like weddings and such. During trips I like to pass the files to my phone so I have a security copy.
Great video... the FM DUO seems nice and sharp! But the izugar lenses still make a more realistic image. That being said as someone with a K2pro, I feel focus is an issue for me and the FM DUO does seem to solve that. Basically, I'd love if the K2 pro had a hack to shoot 8k in each eye!
FM DUO does solve the focus issues. So new production of K2 Pro solve the focus issue I have one of those for jobs for Oculus Venues - FM DUO lens connect to a laptop and use software assist focus so you can get very accurate focus. Fisheye is really hard to focus - using a laptop you can blow up and zoom in focus. The lens has very good focus ring. But CA is still a big issue.
@@hughhou Hugh, speaking of venues - do you know if there are plans to present 180 ‘live’ content in actual 3D in venues? Or is may it stumble upon a bandwidth issues? There are so many opportunities that I’m excited about.
Hi, in the video you mention to show how to get a 3D/180 from the 2 cameras. Where would I find this ? Thanks Hugh !!!
Oh right here: th-cam.com/video/1QLyX6ApuEg/w-d-xo.html
I stumbled here looking to upgrade from insta360 EVO, it is 4 months now since you mentioned new consumer level camera in the works .... where is it ? :) ;)
Still waiting - Qoocam EGO is the new cam but it’s only 3D
@@hughhou am using insta360 evo mostly for 3d only. Thanks.
@@hughhou From the spec, I see no reason to switch from insta evo 360. Qoocam has a small sensor, and is not even vr 180 as you also pointed out. :( :(
I love this video. Do you have any comparison with the insta360 pro2 / titan for vr180?
I have Titan vs Pro 2 - just think it cut in half for VR180 :)
Got my feet wet with the Vuze XR for mixed reality. Would like to step up with a zCam K2. This review is very helpful. Thanks 🙏
I am glad! Yes Mixed Reality live keying will help a lot with high bit depth video like the K2Pro! I want to learn MR too!
Is the new canon RF 5.2mm VR lens the camera you are talking about that was coming up?
Yes. And the new review of this video is here: th-cam.com/video/6UT0bIqEojU/w-d-xo.html
Hi Hugh! Thanks for the video and VR180 comparisons. Can I ask what FFMPEG code you used for uploading this VR180 video to Oculus TV in 8K (Max Quality) playback and caching? It looks great on Oculus TV. I know you made a video about max quality settings for Oculus Media Studio back in Aug, however you only mentioned the VR 360 FFMPEG code you use (for 5760x5760 resolution), and Eric Cheng's cheat sheet only currently gives 5.7K for VR180.
I have been trying to upload VR180 footage in 8K from a custom stereo photo camera rig with FFMPEG but have been getting encoding errors from Oculus Media Studio.
Thanks again for all the time and effort you put into these videos to help the VR film community!
I am planning to make that tutorial on my Masterclass - it’s not easy as it require 2 pass FFMPEG and take 20+ hours rendering time. This one use Aftercodecs tho, as I get lazy. But not recommended. FFMPEG is still best. Let me organize my notes first.
@@hughhou Thanks Hugh, that would be great!
I use Davinci Resolve Studio (as 2D 7680x3840 timeline) Nvidia h265 80 MBit/s 7680x3840 at 30fps, much I-frames for slideshow. For metadata I use the Google VR180 Creator and in upload Oculus TV understand this right. Sometimes its ok, sometimes I get message about low quality😯, try again. It's a lottery with it.
@@HuebiVR your videos look great on occ TV.
You stated the FM DUO uses a Panasonic MN34450 sensor, also saying this is the same señor that is in the canon r5. This seem s hard to believe as canon makes their own sensors. Can you provided evidence to backup this statement?
Sorry for the dumb question....the z cam record two separate files for the views, how do I work to join the two?
I have lots of old tutorials on this channel will help you with that - basically you drop both file into Mistika VR - it will just join them for you. Make sure you know which is which eye. But it is as easy as other solution.
@@hughhou thanks a lot very kind
@@hughhou do you know if I can do the same with Premiere or After Effects?
Cannon just released a 180 vr lens! can i get your opinion please!
Here: th-cam.com/video/xJkz4msvZ5Q/w-d-xo.html
Okay I know you probably won't see this but I'm going to ask anyways in hopes that you do. Would it be possible to take this camera and make a 3d 360° photo? If I took photos at 90° intervals.
Yes in theory but prob need 3 instead of 2 since you need edge to stitch together and it is very hard in post. You better off use a 3D 360 camera or nodal head
@hughhou thanks, now to find an affordable 3d 360 camera that can to milkywau time-lapse
it seems that all these camera become more expensive in the past 3 years. Is that right? More specifically, where to buy Insta360 EVO? Cannot find any online now. Thanks.
They discontinued the production line so you can't buy them anymore except used - but used EVO is extremely expensive - as it is still no camera like it.
@@hughhou should I go with your 2-insta360-go configuration to get VR180?
@20k (more than triple the price of the k2pro) seems like there's no way anyone should buy a the fmg over the k2pro however no one can find the k2pro SMH. How much longer on this consumer camera and will it be trash like the Lenovo or actually comparable image quality to k2pro?
Hey how are you? Have not heard you for a while! FM DUO is for very high end production. There is LED wall is 3D now need 12K resolution- this is what this camera mainly for. K2Pro or even K1 is good for your use case. Did you end up get K2Pro? I have both if you have opportunities to film let us know
@@hughhou I've been blessed brother. I hope and pray you have been and continue to be as well. I had the k1pro and I sent it back because I didn't like the workload. Each eye being on separate cards, the bulky power cord, and a few other things that made it difficult to get 1st person POV shots but we should definitely chat soon. I still wanna make my film (which may be broken down into a 6 episode series) in both VR180 and HD and always wanted to hire you for the VR180 aspect. Hoping to start filming in February for a Easter Sunday premiere.
One point to mention is the FMDuo struggle on contrast I can see on the sun light at ground you get a lot halation issues compare to ZCam way better rendition on this artifacts.
FMDuo look the hardware has range but lenses is not good compare to iZugar to be honest.
that's what I see too!
Same feedback here. I hope FM DUO can change lens - look like it does allow to replace into better glasses.
I need a HDR cam. Sony said the PSVR2 will support HDR.
Insta360 EVO is no longer available for purchase, is there any interesting VR180 camera below $ 1000 ? (3D of course 60fps would be nice)
Not yet. Will update you when there is new :)
VR180 is always better than full VR360, VR360 make people get lost..
I think Insta pro will be better, but there is no 180 stereo. as always it will be possible to rent if you really need.
It's a vr180 camera comparison, it's not "better" if it doesn't do vr180.
Insta360 Pro 2 can actually do VR180 with changing view point in post. I did make a tutorial on how to do so on this channel.
Z Cam K2Pro @ $6000. We are a long way from consumer costs. Insta360 possible though.
Yes! This Video is for filmmaker. There is consumer coming soon and I will make another one when it’s ready.
김치? Jindo-dog?
Hope Meta can wipe these pricy cams away.
META the camera company or Meta the facebook?