The True Strength of Post Crisis Superman
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.ค. 2024
- Power Scaling all of Post Crisis Superman's best feats and statements. I also debunk some of the most common Post Crisis Superman myths in this video. This video strictly covers base post-crisis and not forms like Superman Blue or the Theta State.
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Just a couple minor corrections.
Mxy is not the one who created the cosmic storm it was Dr Alchemist, Mxy is just telling Superman about it and I seemed to imply that the Void Hound is some kind of living being but it's actually just a super weapon. I got the line mixed up with the Sun Eater stuff when I was recording it. None of this changes any of the actual scaling but I figured it should be mentioned.
Let me know which videos you guys would like to see in the future.
Great video! I just disagree with one thing. I do think Post-Crisis Superman is around mid-multiversal, here's why: Pre-Crisis Superman provided half the power necessary to undo the damage Time-Trapper did, and restore all possible timelines, and Post-Crisis Superman is around his level of power.
For one thing that feat is multiversal+ and for two it's not consistent enough otherwise I would agree. Universal+ is a lot more consistent (literally well over 60 feats). There are couple instances of higher dimensional scaling too like 11 and 14 dimensional feats but I didn't include them because they are all outliers.
@@WebCamParrot Ok, but is it possible to argue multi-universal because of how casually he did some of the universal feats and how some of the universal feats were early on in post crisis, and he got stronger since then?
Low multiversal / Multi-universal is somewhat reasonable, he could be that strong but it doesn't really make any real difference to the scaling and he has very few feats actually on that level. Casually performing a universal+ feat doesn't qualify you for Multi-universal.
@@WebCamParrot What about factoring in the fact that post-crisis superman also did some of his universal feats in a weakened state, and that he got stronger throughout post-crisis.
Not bad for a farmer from Kansas.
He's the average farmer from Kansas, nothing special here.
Fair enough, Dorothy. Fair enough.
Great video! Really liked the amount of detail you went into. Looking forward to more.
You're trash at debating
But I'm rich so it's ok
Fort Ress so debate him then
@@fortress7493 Not everyone trolls under the guise of "debating". ;p
@@KeyIssues OMG you literally just shut him up,OMG I'm still laughing while typing lmao
*Wow, Superman post Crisis is WAY stronger then I thought, thanks mate!* 😉
@ Cool.
there's alot of them. and goku Is stronger than most of them.
@@lucassimms8163 Kinda, there arecalso PLENTY of Goku's as well.
@@lucassimms8163 keep on thinking that
@Le mouxx True, then there's also Cosmic armor Superman and Milkman man.
Thank you for mentioning Superman's intelligence and fighting skill. Too many forget the plethora of skills Superman possesses
Damn, superman is a lot more powerful than I thought.
After he mentioned Wonder Woman's shattered God feat was not even close to Superman's high end speed I was like PAUSE....pause, basically Superman is impossible incarnated lol.
Juan Tafoya What’s hilarious about that is that Wonder Woman and Superman keep up with each other in combat. These people are insanely fast
@@FahimusAlimus lol i knew someone would say that.
@@FahimusAlimus why thank you for calling me the fastest combat speed fighter of all time.
@@agoranottoman1663 actually those weren't trilions but was written trilions upon trilions to uncountable. + was written from sphere of heavens. It must be to me rather infinite or immesurable speed.
M'gann M'orzz These dudes are stupid fast. I guess we go with trillions in order quantifying it
Key? A minor issue on Brainiac. Supes didn’t one-shot Brainiac by clapping, he did it by rubbing his hands. Rubbing. His. Hands. Which is even crazier than what you said that feat was.
What... the fuck.
What issue is that from? Wtf. He killed lex luthor? I thought he doesn't kill?
IMBANGMAYNN!!! !!! He usually doesn’t, but he will if he has to.
@@imbangmaynn5705 Superman #666
@@kingdomcomesuperman3669 I read it thanks... Would that count? Wasn't that just a dream? Wouldn't they be weaker?
Superman holds back on every freaking level... If him murdering all the parademons around the world in a second doesn't prove that then nothing would
I swear
That was Injustice Superman; who is in a different Multiverse entirely, but okay.
Thor, Lord of Thunder yeah that’s the thing about Superman as much as he’s my fav super hero he’s so powerful it’s really boring. So movies have to basically make him so weak to the point where he gets his ass whooped by the injustice team. He’s my favorite but too strong to even really fight anyone. And when he is in movies he’s really weak and can’t show his true strength.
JICI Nah I’m not a fan my bro is but he’s only boring when uncreative script writers focus on his power the power is only there for fun that’s why stories like All Star Superman or Kingdom Come are so popular they have him at great power “beyond”ordinary levels but they focus on the story.If power ruined stories than Lucifer and Sandman wouldn’t be big
Thor, Lord of Thunder and injustic superman is way weaker than post crisis
Excellent video. Finally a video that gives Superman the credit he deserves. I believe so many people prefer Silver age Superman over any other because he ha sheen downplayed so much since then. He literally is the butt of all jokes in the latest movies and tv shows. Silver Age was the raw and finale of Siegel and Shusters writing. Then they got fired because he became or was becoming invincible. So the writers now can get away with that because now Superman has visually been downplayed so much to the flash and Batman (and any other superhero) that fans don’t realize how powerful Superman still is or becoming again. So I still prefer silver age but only because of the rawness in writing. But great video and great evidence that Superman is becoming as great as he once was.
I know your comment is old, but who do you think is more powerful, Pre-crisis or Post-Flashpoint?
I always go pre crisis. But that’s mainly because that was when Superman’s storyline was consistent due to the comics being written by the original writers. From 1938- mid80’s the story went from leaps and bounds to immunity to magic and kryptonite. The stories flowed to where you can see how superman got so powerful. Which is what ended the original writers career. “Their Superman” got too powerful for any other superhero to compete with. So I really don’t like getting into those debates of pre crisis vs post flashpoint because there was no original plan for those types of storylines until after Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster got fired. After silver age pre crisis and post crisis started to form because they completely reinvented, so to speak, the vision of Superman. Giving him a whole new look over and over and over again. So with other videos out there giving arguments that post flashpoint Superman is more powerful than the silver age Superman doesn’t hold much value because those supermen, because there are more versions than just one, have too much added to them to where they’re not just Superman. Silver age is the last, pure, full power Superman in the comics. That’s why I think that is the strongest Superman because that was the full image of Superman. And just as an added insight even though we’ll never have the pleasure to know if Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster never would’ve gotten fired, I think the entire outline of comics would be different today and the whole debate of pre crisis and post flashpoint would never exist. It would all be more unison and revolve more around each superhero individually which would make a better story as a whole when they teamed up because the hero that started it all wouldn’t have been continually changed to help make the other heroes look better. It would just be what it is and Superman would be on top, but it wouldn’t be in your face. It just be something that was hinted at and just known.
@@kndnumber1832 Oh I see, I agree with what you say, thank you very much.
@@kndnumber1832 why though .
*And people really think Goku can defeat this guy*
depends which goku
@@alfa01spotivo bruh, there's only 2 versions of Goku- you're joking aren't you
@@lancetheking7524 xeno goku, alternate universes goku, heroes goku, anime canon goku, manga goku, super canon goku, super anime goku, movie goku etc
I haven’t watched heroes, but the strongest outside that I think is Mastered Omen form Goku, he’s dozens if not hundreds of times as strong as he was when he survived being hit with a black hole.
I posted my reply before I watched the vid :P
Comparing high end DC characters to people from other universes makes no sense, the scaling is so stupid it only makes sense to compare them to each other
I'm an advocate for Post Crisis Supes. I honestly don't understand how people see him as weak or Dragon Ball fanboys think Goku would stomp him. Once you take into account Post Crisis Superman feats, you can easily see how powerful he actually was. The guy is extremely powerful
He is* post Crisis Superman is current one
@@darkgoddarkseid2824 actually, you can include basically all of his feet from all of comic book time in the most current one, because he's a combination of the new 52 Kingdom come Golden age is I think, post crisis, and I think a few others. They did this just to get the best of all worlds with their current Superman, and I personally love it. I
@@kaimarquez8046 if i not wrong, after teh Death metal events all thing the hapened before the reboots are canon now
@@denermalcher5839 in the way of Superman experienced all those things, yes you are right. Kind of, DC is technically done like for reboots and only the past few years, so I'm pretty sure what you're saying is true. I'd have to work out the nitty-gritty details, but I think you're right
That’s because most DragonBall fans have NEVER read Superman comics.
i have a friend who always compares superman to the entry in marvel saying he is much more powerful, but with these examples sentry can't even touch him
Because those are pathethic marveltards
@@supercorppridelgbtequality4380 yeah but in general marvel mostly outsells dc so they must being something right
johnyblaze11 not really
Marvel money comes from MCU
@@UNKNOWN-qr7uo it all depends on who's writing but on average superman is more powerful than sentry
@@UNKNOWN-qr7uo I'm guessing you haven't realize that this video is just one of the superman post crisis feats he has made .
12:11
I've personally always seen "invulnerability" as just being another word for super durability. Of course it doesn't mean the character is completely invincible, just that they're super tough and can resist and survive things that would seriously injure or kill ordinary humans.
Superman explains as such during the Pre-Crisis era when talking to Supergirl. He says, "Invulnerability is a relative term Kara"
Respect Superman...
No
RubyKing1997 yes
Superman? Yes.
His fans? Hell no.
Macaroni Pepperoni same with batman
Yeah but he's always insulted by haters.
I love videos like this that give Superman the credit he deserves. I know alot people may not agree with me but superman (no matter the version) is the strongest superhero there is in my opinion. I saw Seth's video but I disagree on Goku being stronger than Superman I believe to some extent this video backs my argument.
Lol this guy helped Seth make that video so keep your mouth shut
WolfPack 1996 there is no need to be rude, if you don’t disagree that’s fine. Everyone has an opinion and this is mine. Just because your behind a computer screen doesn’t give you the licence to be rude. Watch how you speak to people. All the best.
@@francisdubem5084 he and martian manhunter ate equally strong.
KayOz you are right but you are also wrong.Essentially in characterization they are since it is just the same earth rebooted each time.However in terms of strength they are each different
Did you see his new videos? He says Superman wins.
Theory: Superman is dimensionally displaced due to partial exposure to the intangible Phantom Zone which allows his body to absorb samples of local physics and override it within his own body or small projections like heat vision, X-ray etc.
SUPERMAN WINS WINS WINS WINS WINS WINS
Look up in the sky it’s a bird it’s a plane it’s A Fantastic Superman Powerscale Nice work dude.
1:15: Green Lanterns casually traverse the universe in hours
Albert Einstein-Am I a joke to you
Yes 👀😂😂😂
That's if they really did traverse the universe. If the Green Lanterns navigation is as "good" as Superman's maths (7:15), they may have just circumnavigated the solar system!! :D
I always find it funny when people claim that Superman is lame and overpowered but then go on to say that characters like Goku, The Hulk or The Sentry can beat him. Lmao! Yeah, ok. They only succeeded in contradicting themselves
Adventist
The book is infinite it has every book in the omniverse
That includes hyperverses made completely out of books
Adventist
No that literally makes it a couple levels above infinite and dc directly states that the multiverse is infinite
Thank you!!!!..Its just a never ending battle for Supremacy in power levels fuck the stories we just want the most Op characters..If Superman is beaten then Dc is weaker universe..its always about superman vs this or that...No one ever brings up Goku God vs Death Seed Sentry or Surfer or RKT.
Fanboy wars in a nutshell
With these type of debates we should only use current canon feats only
At 8:13 the comic panel shows Brainiac stating that his Colvan brain can process seventy times more than his spinal station. If he's referring to the brain inside his head (I don't know the comics well, so there could be an external database I don't know about), then Superman's intelligence increases because it scales to that total rather than just the spinal station statement.
Screw Attack: Supermans even able to take building level attacks! XD
The most true thing ever
Also Screwatack: He can punch harder than a trained boxer.
@@dimielgo2267 he also can run faster than a SPEEDING NERF DART!
@@kaimarquez8046 leap over tall cars within a single bound the man of wood superhuman
@@paradoxglitch1108 bro, you haven't even heard his best powers. His breath is slightly colder than the average human and can hear slightly better.
Now while supes destroyed goku for the third time, it was insulting DB gave them both a tie on speed category. It felt like they give that one to goku out of pity lol
EXACTLY!!! They were not meant to tie in speed and even skill goes to superman they just wanted to make DBZ fanboys happy and not call them bias
@@theboyofsteel528their logic for speed was that both are immeasurable
I think if you made a line of infinity it would extend backwards from where you started it as well as forwards.
That's if its acting on a finite space
In regards to the infinite book I'd like to add my two cents.
In context to the story. Ultraman actually explains to superman and Shazam that there is a God named mandrakk and he would destroy the entire multiverse.
So while I do agree with you, the truth is the book doesn't really have an end.
Ultraman being ignorant believed the book had an end because he thought mandrakk would win. In the end mandrakk is defeated.
I agreed
Hes pretty weak. Ive spilt a glass of water on him. He got rekt pretty bad by it.
Pffft you must not train muchif u had to spilt a glass of water on someone as weak as post crisis superman
Do it on any comic character they would get destroyed.
Superman not even glass of water level, confirmed. XD
@boo tee eh
@boo tee the story of superman kills them both
"Do people think that infinity can't ever end?" Yes. That's literally the definition of infinity.
(Other than that, great video and wonderful points).
There are different levels of ‘Infinity’.
Marvel discusses/explains this topic during one of their comics.
DC itself has an Infinite number of Universes within its Multiverse, yet there are realms like the Godsphere and Limbo that exist beyond it which are far larger.
@@liams7137 For sure, I remember Kubik and Kosmos (that might not be her name, I can't quite remember) talking about the different levels and layers of infinity. But I mean they are all still infinite and would go on for infinity. That's the purpose of infinity, to describe something that never ends.
Great video! Love that you went this far into the details on Superman.
Wanna know how i got these likes ?
Right 🤢
Screw attack needs to do videos about characters they know of before hand a day of research wont compare to someone who has seen the whole series
0oDRAGONFIREo0 also they shouldn’t allow Ben and chad be the final people to decide who wins since they can be bias and rig a fight, like how they made ganondorf beat bowser despite the research team came to a agreement bowser would destroy ganon with ease, and other example like yang and deadPool due to popularity and favoritism or the fact yang won due them being own by roosterteeth and the creator/friend passed away
@@spinozilla2421 damn
spino zilla is this all confirmed
Awesome video. Can you make one on Barry Allen’s strength? People always say “he’s only speed and that’s it” when there’s so much more to it tbh.
I’m here after Seth’s Video and I gotta say, you did an amazing job pointing out the solar system level downplay.
Seth is DB specialist. Not dc. What do u expect
Bayonetta top tier of SSB4 bitch what? Seth said Supes would beat Goku.
Matthew O'Rosco Seth did say he changed his opinion over the years and BTW Superman breaking the World Forger’s multiversal happened when Supes dipped through several suns.
@Matthew O'Rosco seth has updated own info
@@maverickzerox8397 Several suns after being weakened
Dude this is awesome so happy I found your channel.
Seth recommended your channel and i must say that i am very impressed! Looking forward to more videos!
Seth also has no idea what he is talking about, so not surprised these two would recommend each other lol.
Death battle is a joke as well.
@@sadsadasdsadasdsadas why would say that ?
@@Micklad2445 Because he doesn't do the research himself, he has biased people showing him out of context scans for Superman etc etc. If you have read Post crisis superman stories etc etc you'd realize that he is not even 1% as powerful as Seth claims him to be. Screwattack did the same thing... spreading misinformation on that scale is very annoying because it then spreads to battle forums etc.
@@sadsadasdsadasdsadas oh my .. where did you find this out
@@Micklad2445 By reading Superman comics and finding debunks for his shit... Just reading his comics will tell you that th way he tries to scale Superman is using out of context scans.
Superman is the most powerful hero of all time. He is the GOAT.
there are a lot of characters a lot more powerful than superman
@@xXx_RICKY_D_xXx I think he meant great not powerfull
@@xXx_RICKY_D_xXx well have you heard of the story of super power. He also made a video on it.
Not base Superman
For a new channel, this shit is VERY good and INCREDIBLY in depth! I am happy to say i subscribed and if you keep this up, will stay subscribed!
Great video. Great splicey/splicey (editing), and I love the music selection.
Great video! Can't wait for you to do his other versions.
I love you parrot, GOATed power scaler
Just to let you know the light from the DC universe is faster than the one in real life
makes sense as they said speed of light is enough to escape in 0.0000000000000001 microsecond entire city from nuke carrying one person every time
@@supercorppridelgbtequality4380 That Flash feat was so absurd I loved it😂
@@supercorppridelgbtequality4380 how much faster than our light is that
Do you know?
That seems super large
@@legendary3952 honestly, it could be stayed to be infinitly faster as many of the immeasurable speed feats are done when going at (DC's) speed of light, when a character goes back in time goes to another dimension or to the gods sphere. You don't want to say it's infinite, it's number followed by many zeros
How though??
As long as we can all agree that he could beat Goku in a fight 😂
Nah I disagree but its aged old debate that isn't even interesting anymore.
As long as we can all agree that he could beat Batman in a fight. So tired of that Whiney twat getting any time with supes in comics ever since the first JLA comic
He pretty much kills anyone in dB
@@devashisgd7349 not really as Gogeta would bully him with minimum effort
@@raii8727 but he's a pacifist.
Supermans potential is limitless
Wow you nailed everything, and totally subscribing/liking.
Welcome to TH-cam lol great video you ever found feats I was unaware of hope too see more of you
I fangirls still claming Goku can beat Superman....hahaha what a joke
Some versions of Goku can beat Superman, some versions of Superman can beat Goku. That simple
The strongest versions of Goku can beat the weakest versions of Superman. The Strongest versions(excluding prime one million, Cosmic Armor, and strange visitor) can beat all versions of Goku.
Just a Happy American-Canadian I have seen claim from a dragon ball fanboy that Beerus could solo 90 percent of both marvel and dc comic at the same time without trying
Ugandan Knuckles. Soooooo. That is what we like to call in the VS community a Wild fanboy. Be ware. There debunk claws can scrape through any logical argument and their biased skin can shield any facts that you throw at them.
Be ware! BE! WARE!
GameTomCat and seen a guy who says a multiverse is only a planet qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-1f809375da2104861036c50d196c7ec8
It’s crazy to think Martian Manhunter is also this powerful
No, superman is and will always be the most powerful
Hes got more powers basically.
He has more powers and more abilities that allow him to beat characters like SUPES… but he isn’t straight up more powerful. Never been shown or said… only been implied in a new 52 issue where they show one panel of him fighting off the entire league with an unspecified winner. Meaning we can’t really take any claims from that, and that is also new 52… which isn’t post crisis from this video
Thanks for the gorgeous panels again. So cool.
Awesome vid. I wish you included the "Supergirl is stronger than Superman" myth. While for a long time thought possibly true, he himself says otherwise. Yet, probably due to the Supergirl tv show, many still hold on to that.
Three things to take into that statement," Supergirl is stronger than Superman."
1.) She spent 14 to 16 years on Krypton, stronger muscle development. Kal grew up on Earth is he did not rely on his own muscle strength as a child.
2.)Silver Age Supergirl rocket ended up circling Earth's Sun for like 20 odd years before Superman found her. And in all that time she was soaking up the Sun's energy.
Post Crissis, her exscape pod travel through the " Phantom Zone/ hyper space" at a slower speed than Superman's rocket did.
3.) Supergirl was not raise to hold back her strength like Superman did. So she throws her weight around with out knowing how to wield it.
Superman Has a Larger Heavier Bio Mass as a Man, than a teenage girl does. Also has has over 15 years of knowledge of how to apply Force.
Supergirl Stronger than Superman ? Bull $hit !!!
She is supposed to be stronger because her body has higher density than superman. So the reason superman is so strong is hidden in how his body is built and super girl has more of it ...
Great job on explaining feats here. I just have one correction though, when Superman beat Superboy Prime they both had lost their powers due to flying through a red sun, Superman won due to his superior combat experience, it was established many times that Superman was much weaker at that point in time than Prime.
Supes would destroy Thor and Hulk. No doubt
Depends on which Thor and Hulk
@@zanin34122 And it depends on which Superman , since the most powerful Superman transcends even the presence himself .
Not at the same time though. That’s a little much.
Wow superman was way stronger than goku thanks
And people think Goku can beat him?
There are some who just can't accept the fact that supes would obliterate Goku instantly
@@KonohazFinest Anime fanboys overally cannot accept the truth Marvel and DC have plenty of guys who could solo stomp their verses
Goku stomps easily
Who said Superman can’t regenerate limbs . He regenerated his heart when ripped apart by joker , in the new 52 he regenerated his hand when amputated.
Father of all superheroes.....
Great video I really enjoy it keep of the good work
Nice! I’d love to see a video on Kyle Rayner or really any other GL. While they aren’t generally underestimated, I still haven’t seen very much on them.
Here after watching Seth the Programmers video on Goku vs Superman
Hamzah Jundi you know I kinda had a feeling about Superman sol system level augment during his rebirth days I kinda had a feeling he was muti solo system buster or maybe more
@@P.G13 what really stood out to me was the consistency from silverage to golden age to today
Hamzah Jundi I think vs wiki gonna fire someone lol
Hamzah Jundi same
What about Chuck?
different writers have different .....takes on super man... but they are all ridiculous
So to summarize:
Superman, when not holding back, can one-shot Brainiac with a clap, who rewrote an entire universe
He fought Nebula Man, a living universe
Great video! Incredibly thorough, he's a lot stronger then I was thinking. What do you think about the recent apparent feat of Rebirth Superman causing the Phantom Zone to tremor?
QuasarSpirit well to me that feat is absolute and utter definition of
His true power
VSB: 66 universal feats, sounds like the four solar system feats are more consistent.
LMAOOOO
@Darius Doolittle
I tried yesterday to debate one black hole shattering feat for live action supergirl. They can only downplay despite logical arguments. Bunch of scums do not bother with them.
Black Lightning43 Oh my goodness, Comic Vine is much worse! It took my so long explaining to multiple people that off guard and omnidirectional light speed attacks such as lasers, light beams, and projectiles don’t at all tag or even touch Wonder Woman in combat, hell its consistently casual for her and yet we’ve seen characters such as Superman or the Flash land attacks on her, so they would easily scale to that in combat as a large low end, hell, you can downplay the crap out of them at FTL, but no, they want to downplay and use inconsistent statements such as “No one can keep up with Flash unless he’s moving at 9000 mph”😨🤷♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️.
Black Lightning43
I had this dumbass try to “debunk” the idea that travel speed and combat speed are different by “Do you see humans running at high speeds while typing on multiple computers and phones?”😂😂😂I literally had to use that as my example of a straw man fallacy
@@markossantiago4841 th-cam.com/video/u5FpamP7NMU/w-d-xo.html
Idk do u watch CW Supergirl show but u can watch clip:
Kara: What is she doing ? ( Midnight who was so powerful and dangerous, had to be closed in Phantom Zone what is already stated to be a region in space where time doesn't exists or place where time doesn't pass or sth beyond time and space or space between dimensions + Midnight feeds with concept of death and blocks with her power phantom zone projector what has fragment of antimatter, power of unlimited source of kryptonian pods, capable of oneshoting 3 solar system at once and oneshots universe out of existence across time/history and space what is 2-A)
Brainy: She is creating black hole ( as u see black hole of radical 4 meters what is already star lvl feat + Midnight was doing this casually )
Kara: Brainy ?! If i solar flare can i shut it down
Then Brainy explains properties characteristic of black hole. Ok sure cgi maybe wasn't at all like it wasn't desintegrating theater but still event horizont which doesn't let light out, endless vortex etc,
And Supergirl with J'onn tanked the void ( with it's destruction ) of this 4 meters black hole, Supergirl shattered it via solar flare+ her heatvision even Flash cannot dodge/reacting and Flash is casually mtfl+ at dodging ( traveling not unless uses flashtime )
Her Solar flare already atomised Red Tornado stated to be based on kryptonian physiology and solar flare was used as fuel to upload Exodus ship capable of reaching other side of at least observable universe in less than a second.
Then try then to downplay why they clothes weren't obliterated... Kara has nanotech suit, nanotech comparable to Lena's nanotech which itself has planetary lvl greater than subatomic matter manipulation so this matter man. protected her clothes. J'onn J'onnz ?! THis was his natural, organic, shapeshifted suit as Kara said b4 can u shapeshift etc. + Supergirl in all stats should be really casually planetary or Large planetary but f**k this.
Naaah but screew this. VSBW admins are too lazy, retarded and biased.
WOOOW SO MCU DR. STRANGE HAS RIGHT TO HAVE 0,25 METERS BLACK HOLE TRANSMUTATION FEAT AS CREDIBLE ( MAKING IT LARGE PLANET LVL TRANSMUTATION ) BUT CW HEROES HAS NO RIGHT TO IT DESPITE THEY ARE CONSISTENT WITH THEIR FEATS NOT MENTIONING FLASH ENTERING BLACK HOLE AND SURVIVING EXISTENCE ERASING COLLISION WITH ANTIMATTER OR ABILITY TO CARRY INCORPOREAL BEINGS !!!!
I said to them suck my **** and they banned me. Bunch of cowards, wankers and downplayers. Not gonna wast my time on this shit.
Comic Flash is casually high immesurable like Superman or Martian or WW. Woow term of speed of light as 3*10^8 m/s was accurate term in 70's. SoL in DC terms is sth like immesurable to irrelevant speed, speed of gods etc.
U are wasting your time seriously.
Post Crisis= Multiversal
Pre-Crisis=Multiversal++
Prime=Stronger than Mxy (who's said to be beyond multiversal)...
One Million=Million times stronger than normal Superman (Who is said to be near multiversal level because All Star Superman punched god brianiac so hard, all brianiacs across the multiverse felt that punch)
Strange Visitor=Hyperversal
Quantum=Beyond Hyperversal++
Cosmic Armour=Outerversal level++
I like that.But i have a question milkman bets cosmic armour superman right?
@@jaredbowen3527 yup but remember CA Superman killed a powerful being who consumed stories and had no narrative control plus CAS can adapt anything
Is Prime really stronger than Mxy? Can’t Mxy just imagine him out of existence if he wanted to
Prime is not stronger than Mxy lol. He's so overrated nowadays. Milkman man>>>CAS btw.
@@nameisnotimportant4856 milkman superman = high outversal cas = outversal
Your videos are so good
This a nice video. Glad there wasn't any downplay
The virgin one punch man vs the chad Superman
Ohhhhhh true i forgot that boldy is virgin.
I'd love to see a video like this on Doctor Strange. Great work! Keep it up!
It is finally here. I love this video
Thank you finally someone explained that superman is way too op he can slap goku vary easily. Super man is just too godly ok godly. superman is beyond a God you can't beat him. He's crazy but thank you bro thank you
Literally the reason I despise superman, not for his character but for his raw power.
The writers of all his stories just say: There was a limit? Not anymore!
Then the next writer goes: There was no limit? Let's break that limitless limit!!
Way too broken of a character, beyond infinite to me seems like another way of saying 0
@@redshankyman9015 thats like saying that Lucifer Morningstar or Thor are stupud characters because of their raw power
@weiss schnee The point is that you suck
It’s proven that goku is MULTI-UNIVERSAL and yet as I believe the guy in the video kept saying Superman has a lot of universal feats. As far as I know multi-universal beats universal feats 🤷🏻♂️
@@christianmaio7443 that's because you can't understand the feats properly, dumbass. Not to mention, this isn't his only Superman video.
Seth the program I sent me here Great channel earned a subscriber.
The thing when people bring up post crisis superman. I'm mainly a power scaler. But I asked which version there using since they tired combining them all in one. But we know that Milk man man & Cosmic Armor Superman are the strongest version of superman
Sakura The Duelist isn't even milkman man stronger than CAS?
MaKappa he actually is he is the strongest version of Superman
@@wendyandmiketerell997 that's what I meant thanks for replying to me
Sakura The Duelist I know it’s late but no problem 😀
@@wendyandmiketerell997 thanks
Awesome content!
Hey bro, pretty great video, killed alot of time with your informative video
Going to refer to this going forward in my Dragon Ball DC what ifs! Great video man, would love to collab sometime.
Yeah we could collab sometime that would be good just hit me up on discord or twitter or something.
@@WebCamParrot it would be massively awesome for you guys to collab
superman biggest feat is saying to goku that "so you finally run out of hair style"
Whoa that’s really impressive being able to put you entire body back together after it was cut into peices . Yet people underate Superman’s healing factor
Awesome Video!
Basically Superman>>Hulk
Then immortal Hulk came and gave Hulk a crazy amp at multiversal levels. Little did hulk know that getting amps is still nothing compared to supermans amp which puts him at the outerversal levels.
Superman wins .
Outversal? Bro, Superman is just Universal.
@@poderosojiren8595 *base form superman* is universal, you forgot about thetha state superman which is an amp version of post-crisis superman that has plot manipulation and outerversal. that is like base goku going SSJ3 but it is still main goku.
Immortal Hulk was the potential of base Hulk but it wasn't amp
A good speed feat came from new52(half power) supes also travelling 100 trillion lightyearz in 2 months
Also left out a big versatility of his torquasm vo which he can you to enter the astral plane and create psionic constructs
Jhon Mist that’s nothing compared to his speed feat in Superman beyond. New 52 is like solar system
@@namaj3122 New 52 heroes besides Martian Manhunter and some sorcerrers were nerfed to oblivion.
Thx god Rebirth fixed them
New 52 is probably one of the weakest supermen. He still benched the earth for a week. Not a 1 rep max but for reps for a week.
Absolutely a great video!!!
What's the issue where depowered Clark beats Kobra? Been trying to track that feat down for a while.
The truth is Post Crisis Superman is better then Silver Age Superman.
Blackman Hulk better but not stronger
Well I to say yes thats true.
I believe the video can easily be summed up as "Superman is as powerful as the author needs him to be. Every time he's struggling he's just holding back because (reasons)"
Really good job bro !! Thanks
Hello,great stuff you have to reply to this,okay so post crisis superman heat vision and ice breath what powerlevel are they at or how high would you rate them?you said that his heat vision is 1/4th of big bang but in order to scale to supermans universal strength it must be atleast universal,also his ice breath should be high up there too!
Superman can manipulate concept of weight and distance (have always this power and only sah when fight luthor he acknowledge this power)
Great vid man, really well researched.
Question, but doesn’t Pre-Crisis also have some Multiversal feats as well, would those scale to Post-Crisis.
I've never seen any multiversal feats for pre crisis supes but there are definitely multiversal feats for post crisis.
He’s got a few, in a fight with Jaxon he restored nearly infinite timelines, he was able to hurt base form anti-monitor, time Trapper, and Mordru who all have Low to High Multiversal feats.
@@AVGNROCKS1996 I tried to look up feats for Jaxon but couldn't find any.
If u have the time, I'd appreciate if u post some scans of his multiversal feats.
Great video! I'd love to see more vids like this for characters who are constantly lowballed like Thor, Silver Surfer and Green Lantern.
Never seen Thor lowballed lol.
@@windandcloudshadow158 I have lol. So much in the Vs. community.
@@brandonandrews2186 I actually see him highballed to all heaven mostly but we all have different opinions.
He's a lot stronger than most give him credit for. Especially in his classic era. Just like Strange.
@@windandcloudshadow158People call him Slowdinson
My friends aren’t in to comic like I’am but we started watching invincible and they are CONVINCED Omni man can beat Superman so I had to show them this video 😂
Omni man? 😂😂
Why didn't Death Battle mention any of those feats in both Goku vs Superman episodes?? I feel like if they did, the contreversy would be at least A LITTLE bit less huge.
Given the time the DB was written and how most who watched were 8-10 years less mature. No. No it would’ve been worse actually.
So Post-Crisis Superman is actually stronger than Goku, Beerus, and Whis...
Holy Cow.
No. only if you combine them all. like seth did in his latest superman vs goku video.
@@lucassimms8163 he didn't combine, it was just post crisis
David Newhart oh boy the hate you’ll receive
@@swxqt6826
I mean a buffed Post-Crisis Superman did an outerversal feat, so...
(I'm not saying he's outerversal or anything by the way.)
David Newhart yeah I know he’s not outerversal nor am I saying you do it’s just the way fanboys work
Webcamparrot someone mention heart beat speed feat couldn’t be used because time was apparently frozen, can you please explain about that?
Do you have a collection of these scans on a respect thread or something?
The scan with Superman and Darkseid has Lois stating "star system" not solar system. After that part you talk about the Void Hound being capable of destroying star systems.
post crisis superman vs goku....post crisis superman wins by 99.99% or 100% percent of the time
Goku is multi universal, Superman is universal so idk bout that, just sounds like ur heavily down playing goku
@@christianmaio7443 maybe. But Superman can literally just dip into a sun and he’s fully healed with new powers, such as an immunity to kryptonite. Not to mention Superman possesses a tenth level intellect. Lex Luther and brainiac only have a 9th.
Hey web cam, I really like your videos. As a subscriber, I have one request for you.. can you please make one video mentioning all the universal and multiversal feats of Superman? Please Webcam
Finally found your channel! Excited to see more content from you bro
I know Kaleb I.A. has already done a video on Giorno Giovanna and Heaven Ascension Dio but can you do a powerscale on them too
Remember kids if a boomtube canges yo subatomic structure to match those of an outerversal constructs and surevive their exploitation u 2 are now are also outerversal in strength 4ever.
I used this video to fall asleep. Works perfectly
Gained a new subscriber sir!