Goku VS Superman 1 & 2 Debunked
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ก.พ. 2017
- In this video, we go over ScrewAttack! 's Goku VS Superman DEATH BATTLE! videos and thoroughly debunk most of the misconceptions and blatant misinformation that was attempted to spread with them.
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Videos being debunked:
• Goku VS Superman 1 (20...
• Goku VS Superman 2 (20...
SethTheProgrammer 's God Goku VS God Superman :
• God Goku VS God Superman
Star Level First Form Frieza Full Calculation:
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Dragonball Z 's Super Saiyan God Goku versus the Man of Steel New 52 and Post Crisis Superman, how strong are they and who would win? Well, Screw Attack 's interpretation certainly won't help you find the answer, this video will breakdown, give an analysis, and go over why Goku and Superman were both terribly misrepresented in both video's done by them and why they are far from accurate in their claims.
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Alright guys I wanted to add something on to this. We had to cut out some info due to time, but I'll detail it here. It's long but bare with me.
1. Screwattack also downplayed Superman because going by their calc he'd only have large star to nigh-solar system level durability yet he has many consistent showings of being at the very least above solar system levels. For example when he tanked supernovas (some with difficulty and others with ease), survived a firing from the Void Hound, a weapon which destroyed 10 star systems, another feat when he threw an expanding solar system away, another where he defeated galactic golem whom is composed of star systems, and of course the mentioned Darkseid feat. Many, many more as well.
2. We do realize Superman has multiversal feats in Post Crisis but people need to realize those are his highest ends and is not his base or average level of power. Think of it this way, you get an A on one of your exams ,get 3 Bs, and on another exam you got an F. If you are determining your overall range or your test average, which would you go with? Your highest end, lowest end,or average and mode? Logically your mode or mean average. Post Crisis Superman has more consistently and more frequently shown planet, star, to multi-solar system and arguably galaxy level feats than he does multiversal feats. If we used the highest ends for every character you'd have a multiversal Base Hulk for beating down on the Beyonder or clapping an universe into oblivion, an universal Hyperion for surviving two collapsing universes, or a solar system to universal level Karate Kid for shitting on Pre-Crisis Superman.
3. One may argue that Goku has only shown to be universal in one arc and in the others he has not therefore it is inconsistent and an outlier. The difference is Goku has outright trained for years to minimize the effects of his god ki (the main reason the feat occurred in the first place was because he had no idea how to control his god ki). Goku only has one writer in the anime and always gets stronger as time goes on. He does not flop up and down constantly depending on the arc or writer like Superman.
Also, their speed calc seems to be right going by what they were going for, but it's seemingly a typo on their end as well (not correctly being multiplied by the official multipliers). Either that or they intentionally halved the results to piss people off. Their gravity formula would come up to 11,000/10x586 which is 644,600 and not 64 million. Not to mention Goku has trained under hundreds of times Earth's gravity as 10x isn't his limit by a long shot. Since his lifting feat would be amplified by 10 times (by the gravity) he actually lifted 400 tons which in turn would make the 586 part of the equation a fallacy because he can throw his hands around in super speed while under massive weight.
Thank you very much for watching guys!
Btw fuck you Seth for cutting out my diss at the end.
Hey bro the thing where Goku flies across the planet is Viz only. Also the best way to get their speed before Super is to start from Piccolo's moon buster at the beginning of Z and go from there
I say that Goku's best speed feat is SSj1 goku using kamehameha to blast cooler from Earth to the sun in 32 seconds. Movie Coolers Revenge. That is an undeniable Lightspeed feat. and if you do the math on it, it is 15.6 times the speed of light. Since its a post frieza arc feat you do not need to use powerlevels to justify it's power, just add SSJ multipliers ontop of it.
Your entire video is kinda made Void by your flawed interpretation of Screw attacks typo. Screw attack states that goku's base is 11,000 km times his gravity training of 586. Or 6,434,305 kn/hr. Screw attack messed up their base speed number not as you say their SSJ1 and beyond numbers. Goku is not faster by their own calculations as you rant throughout the entire video.
But then again all this is made pointless by goku's only true lightspeed feat SSj1 goku blasting cooler from earth to the sun in 32 seconds. IE 15.6 times the speed of light. No one can claim any other feat which is faster than this before multiplying.
scetchmonkey007 Seth just can't agree that goku can beat superman obviously goku can't that just proves he's an extreme dragon ball fanboy.
I've seen many of Seth's video's I agree. He is a butthurt fanboy. But I like making my points hoping somebody more intelligent can challenge or dispute them. Doing so I have greatly raised my numbers for goku far beyond what's in screw attacks original video. They still can't catch up to superman though.
Screwattack: "Here comes Goku! Faster than a jetplane, and strong enough to destroy a mountain!"
Hold your Dragonballs. Superman is more powerfull than locomotive and faster than speeding bullet.
@@kubahavlicek1933 zeno can easily destroy ba country
Technically true
Whis could maybe be wanked to big tree level
@@account-pb2df the high priest. Can be high balled to destroy a block in a few months
We all know that Farmer with a Shotgun solos all.
Player 15 yeah dude he would wreck them both
Fax
Can't argue with facts.
Solid fax
Shaggy vs farmer with a shotgun
I don't even care who would actually win, I'm just mad they were inaccurate.
same
I usually just skip to the fight in their videos
Crazy Kid He/She just stated it
Honestly, even though I personally think Superman will win, they really just downplayed Goku terribly. I find death battle entertaining a lot, but they get facts and results wrong a lot. I agree with a bunch of their fights, but I disagree with some of their fights as well, like Gaara vs Toph, Bowser vs Ganon, And Yang vs Tifa. I find them entertaining a lot, but they aren’t perfect
@@phantomfalcon8104 To be fair, You can't really count Yang vs Tifa as that was more of a blatant promotion for RWBY's next season, then a "properly researched" battle
If I’m not mistaken, didn’t Toriyama state that the characters are much more faster than what the animations show?
Yeah they slow it down so we can see it just like comics other wise we could only see a bunch of glowing blurs
Frieza vs SSJ Goku was under 5 minutes, and it was the longest anime fight in history in terms of episodes.
@@sarcasticsuperjerk18 It was actually 7-8 minutes. Freiza says,"I underestimated this planet. I give it 2/3 more minutes" (I forgot which)
@@sarcasticsuperjerk18 They were on planet Namek. Time is slower on there.
Yes because you can’t constantly animate light speed like how in the tournament of power
I've been pissed at screw attack since they said one of the ponies from my little pony would beat starscream
That battle aged poorly
Lol they even did Deadpool vs one of the ponies
That was Rainbow Dash.
Kenobi wins against a naruto charater lol
@@GoCrazy69 I swear, i have no idea how they wanked Kenobi to beat Kakashi xD
At 15:48 when he said “ uhhh GokU tOugH bUt sUPaMan inFinItE toUGh.” Had me dead 🤣🤣🤣
Superman isn't infinitely tough. He's more like Galactus-dependent on how much energy he soaked. If he soaked a lot of sunlight, he's strong, but if not, he can be killed rather easily.
@@HolyknightVader999 when he dips in the sun to power-up, does he lose that power over time?
@@SapiaNt0mata As he uses power or as time passes by, perhaps.
@Greatest artist who ever lived And if Goku teleports Superman to a red sun solar system because Goku has a friend camped out there, he's won.
@Greatest artist who ever lived there are limits just like with plants and solar panels. The amount of energy he can absorb has got limits.
Yeha you can’t just say “goku vs Superman” in battles. You have to say “goku vs __ version of Superman.”
Yup
If it was Batman v superman or man of steel's version of superman, Goku would win without even using SS1
Superman could just about lift a rocket in man of steel
Do I need to say anything else?
Thank you
Kid goku vs. Kid superman.
Finally someone with a brain
This was my slogan back in 2013.
Just saying I've been team Superman since day one. But the way they did Goku dirty is just disgusting..
Here, have some respect
@Owen Jones the downplay in both characters is bullshit pretty much
I like goku more but I also like superman I’m not mad at the outcome I’m mad at how bad stupid screw attack is I only watch the videos because the animation is really good
Screw attack is even dumber than dragon ball super goku
@@zillasaiyan1m274 attaboy
When Batman can beat Superman but Goku can’t
Thats only because batman took a long prep time for the fight
Keep in mind that Batman had to take advantage of superman's weaknesses in order to win. (Plus, the fight is non-canon)
Batman can beat anyone if he has prep time
Batman only beat him with Kryptonite. Which Goku has no possession of.
Smh
In dragonball their speed and strength is always changing. Ss1 goku during the freiza arc is not the same goku ss1 during the battle of gods.
Not to mention death battle used early saiyan saga Goku, which at his power then, he made snake way in a couple of months, while right after his training with king kai he made the same distance in an hour smh
Absolutely. Look at ssj Goku vs Frieza compared to Ssj Goku vs cell. Massive difference in power.
To a degree less so than they could have though. Whis comments that they became dependent on the latest transformation. In Super base form Goku and Vegeta grow at an absurd rate though, far faster than in DBZ
Base Goku from the Buu Saga would shit on SSJ Goku really easily.
@@thefollower6335 right also hers something that no one considers yes Goku had to thirty but he's not dumb when it comes to fighting what's the point of getting to a fight really quickly if your too tired to fight when you arrive? While yes Goku was hoping to get there in time but it could also be that Goku was pacing himself and hoping that that speed could make it there in time
Remember when Superman got beat up by Alfred?
@@u.s.e.r2376 during the injustice timeline i think
That was a non canon storyline
@@azerisda1533 The feats used for Superman's feats have been composite. Aka, using different versions of Superman and combining them.
Remember when Goku gets fucked up by ChiChi?
Remember that Superman has different versions?
@@jibrael5705 Remember when Goku got fricked by Laser?
My friend refuses to even entertain screw attacks argument because in the second battle. Superman uses the dragon balls to restore the earth with wouldn't exist because Dende would be dead. It just shows how little they understand dragon Ball.
Seth Harrington actualy in a twitter feed they said dende was visiting namek
but still they are wrong
Seth Harrington oh yeah fun fact who cares
You're right bro
Seth Harrington the animation has nothing to do with the battle or outcome and to say that anyone doesn't know what Dragonballs are, given the series' age and popularity, is absurd. calm down and think, dude.
LeAndre McCoy oh
I used to find screwattack credible... Idk anymore
Knit picking sources and shit
I started questioning them after the Tifa and Yang fight and I'm a bigger fan of Yang.
@@cw1424 yeah Tifa and Yang, as well as the newest Ben 10 vs Green Lantern really showcased their obvious bias and/or overall ignorance
@@GeeMannn True. They down played ben
G Man Yeah I’m a huge fan of Rwby. I actually found out about it from Death Battle. But Yang was knocked out from being tosses to the top of a train. I though they over estimated her durability
Expectation: *superman vs goku*
Reality: *they are actually friends and playing games*
4real
Nah Superman is a man of justice. Goku doesn't consider himself a hero of justice or anything. Both will fight if neccesary
@@gogetablue7905 Likely yes. But to kill each other? No freaking way, unless you count Injustice Superman. Sure, Goku is selfish when it comes to fighting but he never fights to kill someone.
@@teriosshadow17 True
@@gogetablue7905 To the Death is quite the stretched statement tho.
But dude.. Superman can survive building level attacks XD
Superman can survive building Level attacks, yes. Goku is strong enough to surpass time itself. Yes. I think time is more of a feat then a building, my guy.
@@piccolo748 wow... Humor, do you get it? I wasnt actually using this an arguing point for Superman i was parodizing Screwattacks weird lowballing of characters.
@@hazyshade9648 humor. Something that wasnt shown clearly in your post lmao. Sorry fam but I sensed no humour. You must be a pro at making impressions of screwattack my guy
@@piccolo748 The humor was in the low ball. I hate Superman, personally but its dissonance to believe he caps off at Building level attacks.
@Captain Bruh I think you're overestimating how funny you are my guy
The True Death Battle Is The Comments
Edit: I Just Got Back From This For 11 Months And My God I Never Got This Much Likes Ever
Kid_Fury 2.0 this
Strììder Eclipse Just Wait
Kid_Fury 2.0 forget a battle, it's a war zone.
👍
true 😂😂😂. Just look at the comments in the deathbattle
Goku's strength is gained from decades of hard work and being a student of numerous Martial Art masters.
Superman's strength is gained from writers putting some lame excuses in order for him to be strong.
Goku may not be stronger but he will always be a better character no matter what
Keith Grenier no goku if you truly think about it isn't a great charcter superman is one of the greatest charcters ever created how do you think he's survived this long at stays relevant for over 75 YEARS and what makes superman so great is his humanity like if your read superman rebirth or all-star you see past the god you see his humanity like in rebirth you see him as a father and it's amazing yes sometimes superman does some insane things but you don't think by the end of dragon Ball that goku is going to be stronger then the omni king or whatever is name is
Logan Flowers he is op thats why
Both characters have major character flaws in my opinion.
Keith Grenier Yes the guy who saved his best friend over his own fucking flesh and blood is a better character that makes total sense
Keith Grenier actually superman did that read the comics older comics. superman spent thousands of years in a sun( which is how he gain more energy) in order to boost his training
Making Ssj4 Goku around first form Freeza's power level is proof Screw Attack hate Goku for being so strong.
Almost every marvel and dc fan downplay Goku for their favorite characters to win
God fusion goku Superman would beat Goku lol
@@kydafool.3 in your dreams.
Goku>>>>>>>most supes
SV >>>>>>> goku
Xeno goku >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>SV superman
Cas >>>>>xeno goku.
God fusion goku >>>>>>>>>>>>fiction
Goku solo super man
uh screwattack clearly stated that they cant compare goku to other characters mainly because power levels are meaningless
@@charlieharcombe7585 no he really doesn't
As a Superman fan, they should be specific about which Superman they use. A lot of stuff was Pre-52, but it seemed like they were using the New 52 version. If the Dragonball retcon stay in, so should the comic ones.
They weren't using New 52. All of this was Post-crisis.
@@fanon44 I think then it might have been the model for Superman they used that caused confusion since it was the New 52 suit. But since the two merged together it's kind of irrelevant at this point. My comment is outdated.
@@cjdude46 nothing but fax
Death Battles: "Let's end this debate once and for all!"
Anyone non-biased person who watches it: "You just made it worse!"
you're right
Lol ScrewAttack thought they were going to be the authoritive figure in this debate.
'non biased' my arse. Comic dc are dealing with higher ridiculous power than just 'god' that can be surpassed by mortals.
Axel Blaze “higher ridiculous power” lol sure, dc fanboy, sure. Almost as if superman couldn’t beat these higher ridiculous powers and has always needed help from another higher ridiculous power.
@@nin2494 and lemme tell u something....when I said they dealt with being much much dangerous than gods/angel that even mortals could surpassed in dbs..I MEANT it.
*Zamasu sees death battle’s Goku vs superman videos*
Zamasu: *sharply inhales* yep. All the ningens have got to go.
100% accurate
I still wonder why Zamasu says the N-word that even though he's not black.
Oh wait, he was at one point. Carry on!
FBI OPEN UP
Are u gowasu? 😂😂😂
(Watching godtube)
Screw Attack are very funny. They even contradict what they say sometimes. They claimed Bens Omnitrix will never let him die. But his Omnitrix was cut of by a pair of scissors.
If you watched the Ben 10 vs Green Lantern QnA episode with Liam, you would realise that what you are saying here is completely wrong. Liam said that the Ben Ten show has never showed that cutting off the arm with the omnitrix would activate the fail safe. Also DB never said "Bens Omnitrix will never let him die". They never even came close to that.
@@copbabycombo1311 watch the ink tank he debunks the death battle perfectly.
Jaseh Ricardo Onfroy. clearly you did not watch the DB video. green lantern cuts off Bens arm (the arm with the omnitrix) therefore he can't turn into aliens.
Jaseh Ricardo Onfroy. what ink tank vid do u want me to watch. I doubt it will "debunk" anything but i will still watch it.
Mauricepop R u stupid? there is multiple Ink Tank DB debunks. maybe know what you are talking about before you type it.
I like Superman more but they downplayed Goku too much lol.
Yeah its not even funny anymore.
lets be real neither of them would actually win a 1v1, Superman's immortal, and Goku... well he's Goku
@ScrubbyGamerNight S You clearly have no clue what you're talking about, please read comic books and then come back with facts.
ScrubbyGamerNight S Have you read the comics yet? Lol he was immortal since the beginning gokutard
@ScrubbyGamerNight S What other green rock would younthink inam talking about when I am referring DC universe? Second of all you cant tell me what I read In the comics he is immortal based of final or post crisis series he literally never died and hes gone against multiversial threats. You refer to kryptinite like you just started reading it dont try to correct someone who literally spent years reading his favorite comic. He only died in his mid and early stages. Read the dc comics come debate me again supertard.
To be honest, I was okay with Superman beating Goku in the first one. My issue, was in the second one. Superman being effected by Goku's punches, but brushed off the Kamehameha like Broly did. Not only that, but the way Supes almost negligently defeated the much stronger version of Goku, when he almost lost in the first one.
That walking though the Kamehameha made that the WORST Death Battle they ever made. I mean Super Saiyan 4 which is weaker then God form did better then god form. Super Saiyan 4 overpowered Superman's heat vision. You don't have Superman suddenly walkthough a stronger version of Goku's attack after he over powered Superman with a weaker form. That was just a big fucking middle finger.
they werent planning originally to make a second so the first was made as dramatic as possible the second one was they just wanted to get it out of the way so they did that and then gave the feats they skipped in the beginning
Dominic Campbell They've said it several times before that the animated fights aren't supposed to be accurate representations of the fight. They're just for entertainment.
Farenhyte Ikr
me to, the battle seemed rushed and very one sided+ very unusual
Not to mention in regards to gokus speed, he pushed himself literally into the future fighting hit
Fistopher Gecko K. He actually stopped hit while hit skipped through time
Sadankblast, your right, but the point is he is performing a feat that can overpower time skip.
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki You good bro?
Yet supes is consistently able to fight Zoom (a being who is known for time manipulation), shattered dimensions (not just pushed himself through) and crossed universes (and these are far larger than our universe by the scans shown) in seconds (even Whis doesn't do that)
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki zoop zop zooppy zopa zap zop zip zpom zoom zoozoz zozp zosp
screw attack: uploads a versus video
seth : get the coffin
chuck : yes boss
Goku, at least in the Anime, also dodged Jeice's ki blasts so fast it appeared that the were going through him and that he was perfectly still, this was early in the Frieza saga
Still gets shit on by superman
@@thekingofutube9328 cap
@@JACQUEZJOHNSON23 explain how he dosent then
@Matthew Kuhn nah i think u are the dumbass
@@thekingofutube9328 Broo which version of superman you are using. You can't say superman beats goku because screwattack said so. Their were literally versions of superman goku can and can't beat. So stop acting like any versions of superman stomp goku. And he's right that is fake goku. Real goku even before gaining super saiyan god level is already comparable to beings who can destroy solar system in a single blast and being who can survive planet busting attacks. That fake goku is planet level hell even they think kid buu is planet level even though its stated that he destroys stars.
Damn, this intro is sick!
He who entertains WOOOOO
I Love it ! Fits so well!
He who entertains I bet you do. Goku winning just turns you on. He won't
He who entertains Agreed.
He who entertains What's the music you used in your intro? It's frickin sick!
Here after Ben 10 vs Green Lantern. Yeah, I'm kinda done with ScrewAttack.
that made no sense alien x could have just snapped green lantern
I’m done with them to all animations no facts
@@jasondaniel9678 legit they pulled some BS to have Green Lantern win lmao
@GameAddictz green latern most powerful form is ion which is nigh omnipotent
you mean you still stuck with them even after Kirby vs Buu?
Calling screwattack out and laughing at those clowns. I love it
I'm u but better. I have drip.
@Evil Goku But u don't have a drip.
@Evil Goku
N-nani?!
Haha. I just joked foolish mortal.
What is MONKE to a GOD?!
@Evil Goku
U are emo version of Goku, who's Ssj is red haired?
@Evil Goku
Fool!
I have mastered new level of power!
I am white, but thanks to my name i can use N word! And thanks to fact that i'm mortal, i can us Ning-word! U can't match me!
I'm not here to hear about how Goku would win or lose, I'm here to hear how wrong screw attack is. Because honestly, they frustrate me to the max!
Exactly
See, I could let them off for stating that SS1 was half as fast as base Goku, I thought it was just a typo
Thats understandable
I started questioning whether it was a typo or they were just retarded after Ben 10 vs Green Lantern
Their naruto vs ichigo was also pretty bad. Not their worst, but being better than a flaming, radioactive pile of dog shit doesn’t say much.
@@shwingcrimson8202 They downplayed Ichigo a helluva lot
@@reioissupremesvictim561 true
I didn't even notice they divided Goku by 100, I was too focused on how bad the feats they pulled were and that limitless power nonsense years ago
so that was a nice catch
GamerSastn lmao when you realize when both are at their strongest goku gets pooped on
GamerSastn me 2
Ini PG3D where is this stated? And has pretty sure superman not even at his strongest can beat goku tell me when goku can carry 8 planets on his back or destroy a universe with a accodental sneeze or can carry a book of infinityyyy :) his feats are incomprehensible to DBtards comics superman shits on goku
GamerSastn ikr I was like ok but then screwattack have never been accurate
Goku wins against Superman: Nah
Superman wins against Goku: Nah
CHI CHI beats both of their asses
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@@Spoteem lol
love the way u say ases lmao
Put yaaa at the end
After watching Ben 10 vs GL, it is pretty much stated that when DB use a big named Hero they make that character into a super composite form of all their feats and some that weren't their's but "close enough that it should work theoretically".
In death battle 2 superman gloated that one step can cause an earthquake but gohan did the same by rocking his foot when he was a teenager
When he was a lot weaker than he was against Cell, so Goku would be way stronger.
I mean that was also inaccurate by death battle they down played both characters
Also said one breath could cause a hurricane
I grew up on both of these heroes but at the end of the day we all know squirrel girl would win
ThewyBear facts bitch
DJ Fapademiks huh
ThewyBear truu
ThewyBear facts bitch is slang
DJ Fapademiks for what
Am I the only one who wants to see a full fight from the intro.
Gogeta68 Nope
Yes.
Yes.
InoshiKenshi facts
Cus saitama would just punch most of em for game (facts)
Thank you for pointing out the flaws of Screwattack. Their numbers and analysis seemed okay when I first saw the videos. Someone should make an anime feature using your calculations and feats.
Screwattack was so biased it's laughable
no, you're just a weak beta
ice cold sneakers use punctuation.
Nah
@@punctuationman334 this isn't school, it's TH-cam
Sometimes but not this time. Superman beats Goku
The people calling them weebs and dbz tards need to chill out. They weren’t saying “GOKU WINS AND HERES WHY” they were saying why the screwattack video doesn’t make sense. They didn’t say a single time in this video that Goku wins.
Kyle Szalontay
Thank you.
Finally! Someone with logic!
They did in other videos though. It's pretty obvious that Goku beats new 52 superman. Gt goku is universal through statements. Plus Goku in super is 4th dimensional so he fucks most superman up since most are 3 dimensional.
Frank Lance yeah but still the point of my original comment was that in this video that wasn’t the point they were trying to make
I understand that the entire point of Seths screwattack videos are about judging whether or not they did good research. I'm just pointing out that a big part of their confident voice is that they know it's bullshit. In most other videos they make good points but sound less confident/not as confident as this. It's just an implication you can make through the comparitive emotion put through his versus.
The only thing I don't get about Superman fans is that they keep saying that Superman has infinite and unquantifiable strength. And from what I remember about him, he absorbs energy from the sun to derive his powers. So then, how does he have unlimited strength? The sun's energy isn't infinite???
Alex They always make the same mistake of saying he's infinite when he has limitless potential not infinite, they should really learn the difference between the two.
+150Hello Yeah, he has near limitless potential, he isn't infinte... except for maybe his Silver Age version -- making those mini clones from his hands and also having ventriloquism powers.... dumb sh#t like that made him into an unwritable character.
Navon Myhand Yep that's why dc was retconed several times because many of the heros were severely overpowered and the writers had trouble creating a decent story, I mean who the hell is a threat to them when they can punch black holes in people's heads lol
I think people misinterpret Superman as a whole he is not meant to be a limitless, infinite powered being, Superman at his core is meant to be a god among men symbol of hope ,if he was limitless he could not be beat but he has been beaten and would not struggle. Although inn his defense he is stated to hold back a lot when fighting in populated places on Earth, I digress point is Superman does in fact have a limit
In theory he does have infinite strength, as long as hes by an sun like radiation or whatever he can absorb energy as much as he wants. This includes stars I believe.
Guys Superman was fighting a fake goku it looked exactly like him but it wasn’t him
He fought turles
Nah man that was the real goku🤣your making excuses to defend your shit anime goku
GOD NO ONE HAS BEEN THIS DUMB
Damn
@zero bruh when in Jesus name did I say that superman would win becuase he is superman
You think goku would win becuase he has ulTrA iNstIncT god I hate goku fanboys so much always so brainless
*Everybody:* I’m here because Goku Vs. Superman
*Somebody:* I’m here because of Ben 10 Vs. Green Lantern
*Nobody:* I’m here because of Raven Vs. Twilight Sparkle
Clearly Twilight Sparkle should have won. If they can give Kirby a boost they could have let Twilight use her power of friendship and alicorn magic from the fight with Tirej
*actually a person that watches the show*
ZaESims123 Nah Raven would win because she fought against trigon who shown multiversal + feats
Obviously Pinkie Pie would beat them all....
@@ZaESims123 That is Tirek, not Tirej, And Sure, Twilight could have won if she had the help of her friends. but doing so would allow Raven to use her friends help. Also, when she fought Tirek, she had the magic of the 3 Alicorn Princesses in her, but at the end failed to put him down.
@Kevin Byrnes 🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂
It's like a kid in a game saying I have an infinity defence shield
I have infinity attack sword
My power is that I have all of the powers
I have a full deck of Exodias.
FIGHT ME GOKU.
JK, goku is infinitely 3D now (he shakes a world of infinite size (the world of void)' with his power)
Shadow Strike 72 I have a Chain Destruction, fight me
Strììder Eclipse lmao
How much do you want to bet that all the dislikes are from superman fans
Ora no Kami you are a goku fanboy?
Ora no Kami 200 gimme money
Ralph Pablo well his my 2nd favorite Bardock is my favorite character
Marwan Alkandari whoa wait thats to much bruh
I disliked it because they are very biased themselves. I don't like Superman that much. I like Dragonball and DBZ (but not Super)
Also were gonna ignore that Goku took Cooler's supernova attack to the face and lived.
Init that shot gotta be hoy like the sun goku even sent the hole supernova back to the sun
@Owen Jones So did Goku, Beerus, Jiren and MUI stomp them all
Superman without CA dies to Buu saga Vegito
@@c_2519
Thats exactly what happened, yes.
And get this. He did this with super saiyan.
Like barely after the frieza arc super saiyan.
@Owen Jones when?
@@J900CSxaf Prime beats the DB Verse
Master Roshi using Turtle Hermit UI on Superman would be hilarious.
in dragon ball super, Broly for example. in the final battle, the screenplay shows them fighting through the time-space basically. that explains it all.
No it doesn't
Why?
Majin Buu was easily able to do that back in Z.
@@callmewhateveryouwant5263 oh shit, you right you right
@The Saint Super-Buu was able to rip holes through in inter-dimensional space--time realms to get into the living world and Buuhan was able to rip through many dimensional holes in the real world, creating many distortions in space-time and nearly ended up destroying the universe if Vegito hadn't interfered.
Wanna know the funniest part about the Goku crossing Namek in an instant, Namek is bigger than Earth by like 10× so he'd at least be at light speed XD,
@Junzhuo Zhong Goku didn't Teleport, he was moving when he landed, WATCH THE ANIME
@TheLaggyContent teleportion requires speed therefore his speed is much much MUCH faster than superman
@@TheMrNathwoz plus instant transition is him breaking his body up and moving to a different energy source and bringing himself back together
@Junzhuo Zhong you are such an Idiot Watch the anime Goku did not even learn Instant transmision
Proof Namek is larger than Earth?
At least both fanbases agree the farmer with a shotgun solos both Goku and Superman.
Fax
Imagine if he fused with the Ramen guy
@@Faded_Jester they would be omnipotent
@@Faded_Jester ramen guy isn’t strong enough, farmer with a shotgun only has one rival which is every character/bring in both reality and fiction fused.
Farmer with a shotgun solos fiction
I would be fine if Superman defeated Goku.
What I'm not fine with is how innaccurate they were and how they downplayed him.
agreed
Me too
Agreed x3.
@@shwingcrimson8202 If they had proper proof to show for it then I would've taken screwattack more seriously
this video is very
warriors blew 3-1 lead
TheRandomGamer/GTA5, DESTINY, MINECRAFT and more! it's because the NBA team golden state warriors had a 3-1 game lead on the Cavs and they lost the lead and lost 3-4
lol never gets old
+lil _kingjroc it does get old since the falcons blew a 25 point lead in one quarter
Clorox Bleach HI KIRSTENS COUSIN
The Namekians I think u have the wrong person
Biggest issue with Superman is that he is dependent on the writer, depending on who writes him is what his power will be.
Obsidian Frost Like dragon ball z kai? And dragon ball? Oh let's not forget dragon ball super. Oh and not Super saiyan 2 and super saiyan 3 etc.
MShadowj actually no it’s kinda fuzzy during super
So does every character that exists
So dose Goku dumbass
@@ongfrfr249
It's not? Because I actually remember watching it... My eyes must've deceived me, because XpertGamer 90 said so.
My family is watching and I'm the only one laughing
Anyone: who would win in a battle between Goku and Superman?
Me: which superman?
All version of Superman would stomp Goku
@vegito oldest Superman Action comics and JL animated series version is probably the only versions that Goku can stomp
@@santhiendomail905 Why are you contradicting you previous statement. Also Goku stomps a lot of versions of Superman. Y'all really just make him composite most of the time.
@@santhiendomail905 You mean that most versions would get butt raped by Goku. No matter how much you like Superman, you can't deny that without going full retard mode.
Every goku stomps Superman ez and y doesn’t anybody say what version of goku
i laughed so had when bardock punched superman in the intro.
ssjblue vegeta lol ikr it is accurate tho
ssjblue vegeta me too because it's literally impossible
ssjblue vegeta is it because he's a saiyan
Traveling Bum time breaker bardock is very very very powerful
Damn straight, TB Bardock is one of the strongest DB creations, its so absurdly cool.
I always knew it, no matter how many times screw attack remade their bullshit fight I never stopped believing Dragonball is still king
VGBully it ain't goku is a superman clone
He's as close to superman as deadpool is to captain america
The last survivor of a superior alien species is send to earth before their planet explode and are raised by foster parents. they become the guardians of their planet.eventually other people from the same race are showing up. Btch how are they not the same?
Celtic Ranger Goku isn't a guardian he is just a really strong farmer/Martial artist, he is very selfish and the only heroic thing he has done was sacrificing himself so that cell couldn't blow up the earth.
The anime portrays him very differently.
Deadpool is a clone to deathstroke, yet deadpool is better and more popular so what does it matter
Basically, Conclusion is correct. Superman wins (His stronger forms) against Goku. But Death Battle got lazy and made an inaccurate analysis
Death battle is the kind of show that puts characters like Danny phantom and ghost rider against each other because they are both undead
Death: *Makes Roshi and Jiraya fight because perverted old men*
*despite the fact Roshi can destroy celestial bodies but Jiraya is only somewhere around mountain level*
@@fourthhorsemendeath218 roshi didnt destroy the moon imo,He just used the kamehameha to Smoke the moon out
@@chriswentz5197 nah he destroyed it. Kami sama brought the moon back.
Fourth Horsemen Death this comment didn’t age well at all. You just played yourself.
@@depressedkermit5337 wait did they really
Yamcha>superman like if you agree
Jv The King no
Yamcha is star level at best, if you high ball him. On average he's large planetary.
Jv The King yamcha sucks balls
Yamcha solos comics.
Fuck, Yamcha solos anime too.
Yamcha solos reality.
Yamcha solos himself
If Goku finds a way to get stronger than the Omni-King in Super, than Screwattack will shit their pants at thought of Goku vs. Superman 3. Either that, or they'll just troll us again by having Superman win and pull an explanation out their ass.
H8rdwork You mean pull a bullsh#t excuse out their ass.
No one wants an omnipotent Goku! It's completely against the narrative of what makes the character great!
That or they'll find it as the perfect excuse to use Superman Prime 1 Million or Cosmic Armor Superman
No one wants that.
Uh uh uh... Whiz and Boomstick here uh, uh superman would win because...... uh he is as strong as he needs to be, so uh Goku loses.
Bruh to name some battles that have me mad till this day
Gaara vs toph
Archie sonic vs flash(Wally west)
Ben 10 vs Green lantern
Me to especially Ben 10 vs Green Lantern.
I'll add killua vs sasuke to that list as well
Ok if im Being honest wally West killin sonic in the past wont affect sonic since he has shown to exist even when all of time and space were completely erased , meaning that sonic is beyond the idea of cause and effect completely also the game Version has shown it .same goes for the Flash.
Bro I does cry when I see your opening video at the beginning 😂😂😂🤣 I showed my brother and I gotta say....beautiful
remember that time when master roshi blew up the moon (canon)? that was cool
remember when vegeta blew up the bug people planet (filler so maybe non canon) that was fun
Remember when kid buu blew up the planet (canon)? that was neat
remember when frieza blew up krillin that was sweg
Remember when the omni king destroyed all 12 universes and survived the blast (canon)? good times
+chincrise It is canon
That intro is all the truth lol
Son Goku yes
lol no its not
not disagreeing with the superman thing in the intro btw so you should be able to guess
Saitama yes... Superman on the other hand no... lmfao
Saitama hah, my opinion is exactly opposite of yours, funny
This aged badly since Supes is now Multiversal
Screw Attack: Goku only has Super Saiyan God and Blue
Ultra Instinct: Looks like you don't really know scaling
Austin Krecz that was made before kk blue was released
@@fusedbrololy8672 how about Hakai?
@@muigogitoultrasonic3947 Stop.
@@tetraboom2739 There is also Goku's ssj blue kaioken X20 which death battle didn't even bother to mention
@@reioissupremesvictim561 Refer to FUSED BROLOLY's reply.
Yall need to update the video for Master Ultra Instinct
They[seththeprogrammer] have a video of ultra instinct goku surpasing time. Go check it it's good.
Shade Mystik Your argument went down the drain with that grammar🤡
LegitxClock his grammar was fine, all he needed was a ‘ dumbass
I don’t think it matters I mean wouldn’t Superman speed up more to the point were he can hit goku.
Alexander Alarcon you do realize that Superman has *LIMITS*
I can't wait for the Gaara vs Toph debunk
lol the one thing i never liked is the "toph earth bended stuff rright out of gaara's hands"
i 've never seen someone bend the element right out of someones hands in avatar aside from the avatar
also....can toph really survive compressed sand burial, like she's blatantly pinned down, if she were to try and bend out of gaara's grip there should be enough struggle since the fuckin kazekage isn't a weak baby
Only Bumi has been shown capable of bending with just his face. Toph has not shown that level of mastery.
the fact they had adult toph's abilities with kid toph's body but not adult gaara's feat with his part 2 body already renders that video retarded
D180223 This nigga Seth won't debunk that shit, we've been asking but he doesn't even respond.
Gaara vs Toph video was shit. Gaara would destroy Toph.
The Comment Section is basically.
Manga Fanboys vs. Comic Fanboys
Anime Fanboys vs. Cartoon Fanboys
They literally SCREWED us over
DoomStar 43 😂
@@NexusBlackMamba Screwattack
*_ha_*
And people actually take screwattack seriously...WOW! I've been saying this for years that they didn't know what the hell they're talking about, and this is proof.
DarthFalcon64 It's all fiction, so whether it's comic books or anime, I never take it too seriously. But Seth knows his shit compared to screwattack.
Son Goku so true
its funny because scewattack themselves said that there calculation dose not make any logical sense they said in there goku vs superman video yet try to put logic in there second goku vs superman
Oh c'mon sure they fucked up big time, but you can't say that ALL their videos suck...Deadpool vs Deathstroke = accurate, same as Spiderman vs Batman and much much more. They just made a terrible mystake making that video
Bajkó Tamás hey man deadpool vs deathstroke was not really a fair match sense deadpool can't even die
Screw attack is basically a joke when it comes to death battle. Even on their non anime characters. Like their Green Arrow vs Hawkeye they basically said because Hawkeye has stronger arrows he wins, when the whole point of a bow and arrow is accuracy. In reality they should of just tied and killed each other.
actually h2h hawkeye is much better
I don't really know about comics much. But i do know a bit about archery and weapons. But from what I've heard about the characters is their both the top marksmen in their respective universe so i think it would stand to reason who ever got the jump on the opponent would win in real world fight. What i was saying is i think it is ridiculous to make the fight come down to arrow to arrow. Because arrows are lethal weapons and in a fight they would both be shooting to kill.
Andrew Lewallen Yea but they didn't, Hawkeye is stronger, faster, more accurate, and more durable, plus you mentioned the better arrow so that's why he won
They're both human's at their peak. I don't think it's definitive that one is stronger or faster than the other. From what I've seen they are both Olympic level athletes. When it comes to accuracy they seem pretty even basically both of them are dudes that can hit a dime at a hundred yards with an arrow. Also Green Arrow is a dude that's beaten guys like Deathstroke and Prometheus (For marvel people would be like Deadpool and Taskmaster.), guys that have given Batman and the Justice League as a whole trouble. And Green Arrow fights ninja's pretty regularly and spar with his wife, who is one the better martial artist in that universe. I'm pretty sure the two are pretty much even, may Hawkeye is stronger and better at hand to hand, but it's an archery fight. And better arrows don't really mean anything if you take an arrow to the head your dead if it's iron, steel, diamond, or adamantium.
Great sentence structure. Also wasn't talking about Superman, nor am I really a Superman fan. If you would of read the conversation you would of noticed we were talking about Hawkeye and Green Arrow..
I just realized they gave no feats for Goku
Tbf, when this db came out, all we had to go with was the resurrection F movie. And the best feat there was Freiza blowing up the planet which killed Vegeta in ssb. And blowing up planets don't mean much against the guy who survived being in the centre of a planet sandwich (or even sneezing a solar system into nothing if we count that).
ShadowKhiz so we not gonna act like vegeta wasn’t destroying planets before the saiyan saga
@@trapwitme5384 Do I need to repeat myself about the planet sandwich?
@@shadowkhiz7455 to point out a thing, Vegeta didn't really die by the explosion but more for lack of oxigen because sayans can't breath in space and a really beaten up freezer (witch was also in his final form, not golden) survived only because his species can indeed breath in space
@@ed1434 saiyans can't breath in space? Tell that to baby pan also kid goku went to the moon in og db I don't get why they say they can't breath in spcae tbh
I'd hate to see Screw attack do a rematch between Superman and Goku with Goku using SSB Kaioken as both Ultra Instinct omen and Mastered ultra Instinct.
So much salt. Screw attack said it perfect, how can someone with the ability to overcome any limit beat someone who has no limits? They cant, the story ends there. Ive never seen such a salty bunch of people dbz fans love to complain
Dragracingduleist Superman has a limit, it’s called being on his home planet.
@@Dragracingduleist your basing logic off of stupid catch phrases hahahaha
What about if goko uses SS Abc easy as 123 kokomo ultra poopie pants and mastered bation?
Dragracingduleist but he’s weaker 😂 u weren’t listening. There’s levels of limitless power and while Superman can increase his power so can go but on a much larger scale.
Anybody else think *Chuck* is better than Seth?
#TeamChuck
Boros solos Dragonball lets not make a civil war here
Boros solos Dragonball
+Aaron Mackellar
Yeah totally. I mean,,,, Boros is a fucking earth surface buster, and ssj god Goku is a mere universe buster hahahaha...... Wait.
Boros solos Dragonball personally I love both
Boros solos Dragonball Anybody think one punch man is a boring anime that just has one guy one punching everything which is boring asf since the hero is obviously gonna win
I knew goku just didn't lost that easily
But super sayian 4 isn't cannon
Why was it used in the death battle
Kitty Woods wtf it is its the most common transformation
Kitty Woods are you a dumbass? How could you think that?
@@hit7015 it is trolling
How df is ssj not cannon if they use it in every episode in z to super...
Guys guys, we all know that krillin hit ssj goku with a rock and it hurt him, so going off of that information we can surely prove that frieza and ssj goku is only small rock level.
It all makes sense now
Making ultra instinct roughly continent level
@@hammskie05 We all know that MUI goku is mountain level at max lol
@@unknownwarrior9775 Oh shit my bad you right.
"Hmmm but um actually Goku was not paying attention"
Superman literally grabbed a few moons and smashed them together so hard that it created another sun
Goku shook an infinite 5D realm with his presence alone......
@@jackour8167
Superman punched a hole in reality.
@@IamMcLovin69 super boo (not even the strongest boo) screamed through reality
@@IamMcLovin69 actually that was super boy prime, the strongest superman variant at the time. Not the main universe superman
this debunk is almost an art
Fiar Square this is trash
pc gamerz he does makes sense . Seth completely discarded the fact that Superman did lift the book of infinite mass by saying he didn't . I know ultra man lifted it , but Superman and ultra man are equally strong , numerous fights prove that . One way or the other , Superman does have infinite strength .
pc gamerz the book only floated till a particular distance , and Shazam also mentioned it's impossible to read the book since no one can lift it . And they were shown reading it anyways . Also the facts that state the book isn't infinite are pure bs and has already been debunked . One way or the other Superman has infinite strength
Fiar Square this new goku that you say , the one that has ultra instinct , and shook infinite space , are you trying to tell me he is stronger than someone who lifted a book of infinite mass , and ultra instinct is supposed to save goku from torquasm vo ( a kryptonian martial art , that allows Superman to create an astral image of himself and predict almost every possibility of attacks , and unlike ultra instinct doesn't even run out ) .
Also Superman didn't destroy his enemies in 1 shot , because he was still learning , and becoming more stronger
That intro was beast!
Thomas Weeden even though they did beat the shit out of super man AND seitama yea I gotta agree and I'm not being a fan boy of any kind just for anyone who likes to start shit
Dragon ball fans: Supermans power is so inconsistent.
Superman fans: like your power levels
Power levels tend to be pretty consistant for the most part.
Power Levels are usually very consistent.
@@ananon5771 mmmmmm not really.
@@andrewdominate mmmm thats wrong,whats inconsistsnt about them,its not like random characters are too strong or top weak.
@@ananon5771 Do different characters have different stats? Do different characters have different techniques? Do different characters have different fighting styles? Do different characters have different special abilities? If your answer is yes to any of those questions then power levels and scaling with then is inaccurate. What's the formula that goes into determining someone's power level? What is one power level? Power levels are just an arbitrary number that don't really mean much.
After watching this im curious to hear what you think on cloud vs link
Dr Phil can make super man and goku stop fighting
What not even close
Max Tegue that shiny head hypnotized goku and super man
Ja’iris Wellington what about the comment section?
Ryuga 2015 but that bald head is even more powerful than Gogeta and super man prime together
Ja’iris Wellington I meant if Dr. Phil could stop the comment section from fighting.
just change your channel name to Chuck and Seth at this point
JackSpedicey Or just change it into ButthurtGokuFan
JackSpedicey yeah I agree that they should, they r so good at this
JackSpedicey
Hi green pewdiepie
The problem with superman fans is the same with Godzilla fans, they always bring up some random version of the character that is literally written to be unstoppable, Goku is written as someone who might lose but eventually always finds a way to overcome the unstoppable.
They down played both of them so heavily it’s not even funny
Because there using new 52 Superman but your still right
Wow i thought that you would be a massive fanboy and for once im glad i was wrong this was a great video keep them coming
FINALLY A LOGICAL PERSON BLESS YOUR SOUL I HOPE U WIN FHE LOTTERY
Totally agree
Thicc asian boi Shrek is beauty is Minecraft moviw I hope he doesn't... People who win the lottery end up super broke so...
FYI For Newcomers -
KT = Kiloton = 1000 Tons of TNT
MT = Megaton = 1000 Kilotons
GT = Gigaton = 1000 Megatons
TT = Teraton = 1000 Gigatons
PT = Petaton = 1000 Teratons
ET = Exaton = 1000 Petatons
ZT = Zettaton = 1000 Exatons
YT = Yottaton = 1000 Zettatons
Also since it took Frieza 1746397 Yottatons to destroy planet vegeta and is base power level is 530000, that would mean his max theoretical potential (120,000,000 or 226x) would be capable of 394685722 Yottatons. Screw Attacks Superman has durability of 100,000,000,000 Yotta tons. That would mean that he is 253 times Final Form Frieza. That means that Super Perfect Cell is stronger by almost 3x since Frieza is Large star level and cell is 750x that at solar system level. That would put him at about Vegeta or Goku Level from the Cell arc. Thats around Saitama's strength
thank you
QUICK MATHS
You forgot about Yo Mamma,which is infinite.
That's really cute if you are trying to compare that to ultra man picking up the book of infinite mass . And yeah a fight between ultra man and Superman proves that they are equally strong .
*goku gets mui* superman: shit.
@Zayaan Mohammed 4 month but heck did you think dragon ball heroes exist for a reason?
@Zayaan Mohammed Superman shits on the verse I think
@Awakened Pray Morak that’s true
@Zayaan Mohammed Depends on what superman
@Zayaan Mohammed if we talk about god fusion than he slaps literally all of fiction
They nerf Goku while they overpower Superman in a very stupid way
i bet if goku was american he would win
kakoroto dafuq lol
Ikr Screwattack are full of biased fucks
kakoroto lol true
SSJ 1K Your profile pic is pure gold.
kakoroto pure
Amazing bro haha awesome debunk destroying screwattack hope one day they watch this video and learn
Ini PG3D yeah I wish they'd debunk tifa vs yang I believe they made yang win because RWBY director or creator died recently and cloud vs link as well giving link all his weapons but not cloud's XD
Superman fanboy detected u mad bro
Cloud Leonhart why can goku beat superman when goku gets felt by a weak god of destruction like beers yeah right get real
Q: Goku vs Superman? Who wins?
A: Which Superman?
Which superman
There are versions of Superman that can beat Goku. There are versions of Superman that cannot beat Goku. There are some versions that the battle could go either way, with either of them barely winning. There are also some that would just end up in a draw. It depends on what version of each we're using.
You're right
This debate NEEDS TO STOP!
@Los Blancos oh no
The fanboys are here
@Los Blancos I've bought my chips because I need some salt from these fanboys
I'm more of a Goku fan, but I still acknowledge the fact that some versions of Superman can defeat him, which includes defeating MUI Goku. (I don't read comics, so can someone please fill me in if there is)
YAMCHA IS THE BEST YAMCHA ONCE DEAFETED ZENO IN ONE HIT!
Mystic Gengar DX No, youre not funnt
DUDE IM SERIOUS YAMCHA CAN DEFEAT SAITAMA AS WELL! samdelatorre.deviantart.com/art/Yamcha-vs-Saitama-619473292
Mystic Gengar DX Fake BS, yamcha could kill saitama but not zeno, yamcha isnt our god. You are not funny, yamcha jokes arent funny anymore
Mystic Gengar DX lol lol lol
XKINGX Gaming 17 people disagree
I can pull a camper trailer
That means I can punch a hole straight through it
*L O G I C*
Big brain 100.
Oh yeah this is big logic time
million iq logic right here
roshi busted the moon early dragon ball once and he was weaker than piccolo in dragon ball z
Edit: maybe not early dragon ball but it was dragon ball atleast
1 year and no replies? tf lol
This is just an argument over who is the bigger nerd lmao
Honestly it's self explanatory that Screw Attack is dumb, but they really go in on death battle 😂
@@anton_lezama_art who do u think would win? And use facts don’t just say ui goku Bc ui doesn’t make him faster it just boost his combat abilities