I wouldn't have noticed that you did anything different if you hadn't mentioned it. It was all very effective though and did a great job conveying exactly what you were talking about at the time.
@@xerojer I bought the brava m6 based of his comments but returned it. It was literally comical how stupid it was ramming into things and spraying the walls and furniture. It barely cleaned too
I have the Roborock S7. Here's a tip with the Roborock S7 mop pad ... Soak the mopping pad with a cleaning detergent and water.. and squeeze the excess water from the pad before mopping . Then just fill the water tank with regular water (no detergent). And there you have it ... The mop pad is presoaked in detergent and should be good to go for the entire house cycle.! Works a treat
I have an interesting tip too. I have Roborock S5 Max for over a year now and I use cleaning detergent everytime. I put it into water tank with water heated up to 80°C and use 2x runs on every room. The cleaning works pretty good, the robot is not damaged in any way even after a whole year of using and no component had be replaced yet. The point is which detergent do you use I think. I use Sanytol which doesn't contain chlorine and other aggressive chemicals and I think that's the trick for safe usage with Roborock robot vacuum cleaners.
@@SgtIdontcare Same. I have an S7 and I add a capful of fabuloso to the water tank since it’s not acidic or too strong. I think you would only run into issues if you’re using bleach or harsh chemicals. Who would mop with just water? Lol
Had the stellar Roborock S6 but it didn't have a good mopping solution. I bought the S7 on Black Friday for $455 and bought 4 vacuum filters, 4 mop pads, and 4 brushes for $28 more. Put the S6 on the lower level and the S7 on the main floor where it is an open floor plan, that shares the kitchen hard wood floors with the living room carpet. LOVE this thing!! Cleans the hard wood floors and vacuums the carpet like a champ. Going to buy the self empty station next.
Great review! Because of you I purchased my first robot vacuum and it was a Roborock S7 from Refhop and have no regrets. I’m glad I found your channel, thank you for the reviews you do on products.
I have a Bravaa mop that basically just drags the pad around and honestly it works fine if you run it at least once a week. As long as you don't have super old set in stains these mops work just fine.
@@kirakira9906 - Very True. For us, we have a modest tile section of the house and use a J7+ for 2100 sq ft home vacuuming and the Brava M6 for the mopping on ~1000-1200 sq ft. Would love an all-in-one vacuum that does both well, but one doesn't exist just yet. They either are amazing at vacuuming and poor at mopping or vice versa.
you don't need to throw your Roborock S7 mopping pads into the wash machine after each use. They rinse out perfectly clean under the faucet and takes about 30 seconds to clean for the next run. I have the S6 MaxV and it's perfect on hard floor and tile both mopping and vacuuming.
Moping the floor with the Ecovacs T8 Ozmo Pro attachment, you have to Pause the vacuum, carry it to the other hard floors in your house, and then resume the vacuum. A bit of a hassle, but it wasn’t a deal breaker for me. I am overall very happy with my Ecovacs T8 AIVI. 😊
I’ve heard the “water only” is to prevent clogs of random detergents. But white vinegar won’t clog and is a key ingredient in many brand liquids. It would be interesting to see how vinegar water solution in the S7 compares with the Narwall. I’ve put Dettol and another simple detergent in my S5 Max without problems.
Ive found that some of the all-round-cleaning solution I put into my S3 would very rapidly gum up the little ceramic filter things that sit between the reservoir and the pad (good thing they are cheap and replacable). Havnt experimented with my S7 yet; if I do have any spots of concern I tend to just spray them manually and give them some time to soak; very effective and dont need to drag some funny smelling substance through my entire house. I like the smell of vinegar but im not sure what itd do to my tiles and grout in the long term. Its true the older style S3 mopping is kindof a joke; but I run it on my second floor now where its just bedrooms, and that works alright. Wont get any hard stains but dragging a wet cloth around will catch that fine static dust that refuses to get sucked up otherwise. On the first floor, with a front door, yard door, kitchen, and dinner table with two todlers, the S3 mopping isnt really worth bothering with. But I find the S7 a real lifesaver. Dont know what id do anymore without automatic mopping. Though on a busy day mopping once is hardly enough to get down to that 'the mopping pad would come out clean if id run it again' level. Perhaps im one of those crazy people who is on the market for adding a Narwal on top of that. Does seem like a solid machine and my first floor is continuous tile anyway.
Roborock has official cleaning solution for the mop tanks now. I have just started using it and there is a difference vs plain water. I have had my S7+ for almost a year now (10/2021) and am very pleased with it's function. It was $949 at that time for price reference.
I have the Roborock and the Ecovacs and they both have their strengths and weaknesses. The Roborock does have a tiny "Sonic" portion of the mop that moves back and forth and it also will raise over the carpet but only to 4mms so if your carpet is taller, it will get wet. The Ecovacs whole pad oscillates but it's throw away pads are terrible, use the original cloth pads or T9 pads and you'll have a much better clean. Navigation, I believe is better on the Roborock having a different type of Lidar than the Ecovacs. BUT the Ecovacs has "Object Avoidance" front firing lasers which allows it to not smack your furniture, hit walls quite as hard, tangle up in cords, or run over poop like the Roborock will inevitably do. The Roborock has better suction and a newer all rubber front roller so it's a better vacuum for sure. So that's basically the pluses and minuses of the 2 vacs/mops. I must say I got the Ecovacs for less than half the price than the Roborock as they regularly go on sale and the Roborocks hardly every go on sale. I like them both. so I use them both.
I'm that guy that bought his GF a vacuum for her birthday. She loves the S7. I actually sold it as the anti vacuum present. As in the vac does all the work so she doesn't have to. She had a low end Roomba without controls. It just bumped into everything and got stuck. The Roborock is night and day. They just released replacement bags for the auto empty. The only cons are it doesn't tell you when the water tank is empty or when the auto empty is full. Minor issues in the big picture. Do buy extra pads. Amazon sells exact replacements from a third party much cheaper than Roborock. They must come from the same factory as they are identical. You are going to want to switch out and wash the pad after each use.
I got a Roborock S6 MaxV which got such a dumb mop system you criticised. And it just mops daily and has a dirty mop each day. My floor on the other hand stays clean. So the mopping performance is excellent in my opinion. You can even let it run 3 times in a room in a criss cross pattern which will remove even dried stuff in the kitchen if you had an "accident" while cooking.
We got the Narwal for Black Friday and it is amazing. Our floor is not sticky after running it and it leaves the house smelling neutral but clean. I really like the Narwal detergent. Plus the fact that we have zero carpet lol
One mop no one talks about is the ilife w400 or new 450. They are both under $400, have a rotating bristle with a vacuum! It’s a pure mop but one of my favorite on the market. The cleaning pattern is similar to the Narwal but on the newest model it has LiDAR. This mob can actually suck up wet debris. You can place it on top of a spill and not worry about it smudging it through the rest of the clean.
I heard of a new DYSON robot vacuum to be released in 2030 priced at $15,999. It will be no better than the $200 robot vacuum from Best buy but it looks new age so hence the price. LOL
I don't know if its just me, but i just let the Roborock S6 Max clean the carpet as well, it doesn't leave it wet even on Max, so i don't think people should worry too much about it, i've had mine for a year ish now
I'm looking to buy a roborock s5 max. Reason is that i don't need the mopping feature to clean stains, but to maintain a already clean floor, clean. For 66m2 i think it'll do that just fine.
How do you like it? We have 2700 sq ft carpet, tile and vinyl. One Persian cat and 1 girl. Concerned about pet hair and ability to clean carpets. Any issues with emptying the dirt bin or hair breaking or getting stuck on rollers etc? How is the maintenance?
S7 does not move the entire pad, only the small center section, you can clearly see it when you remove the mop cloth and look at the attachment and cloth itself. That's why you can't really see any motion from outside. Also, if S7 misidentifies a carpet, you can mark that spot as false positive and it won't identify a carpet there anymore (you can reverse it if you do get a carpet). So you can easily tell it that e.g. entire toilet etc. are no-carpet zones and you should have no problems.
Thanks for another great video! I had been planning on just a robotic vacuum and still mopping by hand. We have about 1000 SQ ft of hardwood/tile on the main floor at the new house, with the master bath being separated by carpet. After watching this, I think we'll go with the S7 (via your affiliate link, of course) when the time comes. Thanks for mentioning the HA integration!
I love my Roborock S7. Perfect for the first floor of our 2300 square foot home. We have only wood floors on the first floor and that is where the Roborock works. The water only mopping thank is not a problem. The cheat is to dampen the mopping pads with cleaning solution or even bleach solution for when you have strong stains to work on. That solves the problem and the result is outstanding. 🙂
Thing is, you usually don't need to wet scrub a floor in living space unless you didn't clean it for over a year and walked on it with dirty schoes constantly... So "normal" mopping robots are still better than not mopping at all.
As much as I'd like to have 1 device to do everything I realised that it's best if you get 2 separate ones. 1 to concentrate on the vacuuming and the other for mopping, that's if you can afford it and have the space for 2 robot bases.
Really tempted to get the Narwal T10, I have an Ecovacs N8+, and using NodeRed I coukd make the N8+ vacuum the floor, and when it reports a completed run, I could have the Narwal mop after it. Integration, still the key to a really smart home.
I dont have carpets at all and have huge space to store the aivi stuff, I also have only laminate floor and really happy with the T8 aivi after 1 year of using it.
Hi, A thorough review, but needs to add information that some are waiting for: You know how there's the Roomba S9+, then there's the Braava Jet M6? Many already choose to have separate moping and vacuuming. The problem with the Braava is that it cannot travel over thresholds. So if you DO have hard floors, the Braava is still useless, as it can't go from one room to another, unless the elevation change is ..less than a threshold is. In other tests, other dedicated, or semi-dedicated mops also failed to cross thresholds between hard floor rooms. I watched your video, hoping that you will test this and report how the Narval did, as I am thinking more and more that it will be the unit I want to use, in conjunction with the Roomba S9+.
None of these vacuums had any issue with the 1/4" thresholds in my house, and the Ecovacs and Roborock were also all able to traverse a 1/2" yoga mat without issue. The Narwal did push around the yoga mat, but it may have been able to cross it if it was secured to the ground.
the M6 can't climb because it thinks thresholds are carpets, therefore, going away from it. There is a threshold mode now, which disables the carpet detection wherever you put the virtual box at.
Well I got my self a roborock s7. Its awesome really really good. It vacuumed good and the mopping is good. I only have to mop once every second month and vacuum when needed in corners and places that's no go zone's
Thanks as always for another great video. As you stated, things are getting better but I'd say we're still not at the point of general practicality with these products. Prices are simply too high for the compromises and shortcomings that each still exhibits.
Finally a mop that actually cleans itself instead of just dragging a dirty pad around your house. Why has anyone spent money or time dealing with robo mops that don't clean themselves? Who cares if they don't scrub -- they don't (and literally can't) do anything productive without self cleaning.
I have S7 since launch, it is top performer. You should mention in your video that it can be controlled also with Siri out of the box, not only with Alexa or google home.
@@Tommeehr Gotcha, I think those are only available in the Roborock version of the app. I'm using MiHome because there is a better home assistant integration.
@@TheHookUp correct, but with S7 siri is supported out of the box and after setup you can hide roborock app and not use it. I am just saying this because from the video, apple users can think that it is not siri capable, but it is, and that is very important for some users.
With roborock you shouldn't put products in the water tank , but you can still spray some detergent on the mop, chances are that the detergent will run out when the mop gets saturated with dirt and you'll have change it anyway (I usually just remove it ,wash it under running water ,wring and reapply the detergent and then trow it in the dirty laundry after a full cycle) That said, it's been a bit more than a year that i'm adding an homemade detergent (one part of white vinegar, one part of distilled water, citrus peels ,rosemary, ) made by my wife to our roborock s5 maxtank with great results and no problem/breakage ,in case it's not available I add drops (2-3ml) of a mild "eco" brand detergent (no colourants or strong parfumes that require solvents , just a bit of limonene).
I bought the N8 Plus, and the empty station never empties. I end up having to manually empty every other day. I've tried cleaning and checking for clogs. Tried to tape one side of the bin shut. Nothing seems to work with this model.
This was dope. Now I regret telling my aunt the roborock s7 wasn't worth it lol I was just afraid that if they leave the mop on there for a long period of time it would make the floors dirtier and also wasn't sure if the s7 raised the mop high enough for the carpets. You should definitely review the roborock g10 when it comes out in the US (prob different name) since that works with an automatic mop pad cleaning dock
I ended up going with the t8 only because of a $600 price difference here in australia. The t8 was $1100 with auto empty but roborock was 1199 without it
Personally my favourite is the iRobot braava (most expensive one they make) it’s good because it works in conjunction with my s9+ and I come home to a perfectly clean floor
dang, I get 2nds. I'm excited about this vid. My wife hasn't been to interested in a robot vac, but she has always said she would like a GOOD robot mop. Thanks for all the work you do and your excellent and informational videos!
How do you like it? We have 2700 sq ft carpet, tile and vinyl. One Persian cat and 1 girl. Concerned about pet hair and ability to clean carpets. Any issues with emptying the dirt bin or hair breaking or getting stuck on rollers etc? How is the maintenance?
Thank you for this video! I've been looking at the T8 and S7 and flip flopping between them for about a month now. I've been leaning toward S7 but your video has solidified it for me!
I have bought the S5 Max November 2020, and honesty it's a great vacuum and a pretty decent mop cleaner, so this ca just be a ton better with the rubbing feature. I'd go with it too and I might since my house is on two floors.
What did you decide on? How do you like it? We have 2700 sq ft carpet, tile and vinyl. One Persian cat and 1 girl. Concerned about pet hair and ability to clean carpets. Any issues with emptying the dirt bin or hair breaking or getting stuck on rollers etc? How is the maintenance?
@@shanew7361 I ended up with the S7. I used it without the auto empty station for a month and emptied the dust bin after each vacuum session. It's pretty simple to do and you can rinse the bin with water. Now I have the auto empty station and don't do that any longer. I still check to make sure nothing has gotten caught in the filter, which happens from time to time, but it's pretty simple. As far as long hair goes, I haven't had any issues. No problems with anything getting stuck in the roller. I really do like the mopping. You should wet the mop pad before hand, otherwise it doesn't mop as well. All in all, it's more fun than vacuuming with an upright. And in the future when our elderly cats are gone, I can put it on an automated schedule.
Using a hand held mop is great it's exercise and you can know how clean it actually is But also I can't afford one.... And I'm 16 so it's my duty and I can't not mop the floor
Thanks for this. It was a really great video. My wife and I were just looking into Robo Vacuums\Mops the other day. This really provided some good options and food for thought.
is it thinkable another updated review what (low cost) options for active mopping, for example bissell spinwave 2 in 1 with rotating mops, what is available etc.
I am always impressed with all your review videos. Thank you. Do you think the Narwal Freo meets your upgrade recommendation discussed in this Narwal T10's review?
@@TheHookUp I returned my EcoVacs T8 AIVI with the power mopping attachment to get a Braava Jet m6 I found that using 1/3 to 1/2 the amount of mopping solution reduced the streaking on our dark hard floors. The reusable / washable mopping pads are good for three larger rooms (i.e. living room) with normal traffic. I've found that the dust pads are one of the fastest ways to get up all the dog hair in the house, beating any vacuum for speed (and much quieter).
I have the Roomba S9 with the automatic emptying base and then I will also order the Narwall T10 when it will become available this Friday. Since I have two separate robots to clean my home I am sure that I will have a very clean home and I also don’t have any carpets for this reason. I had a carpet, but I removed it since I new that I would have a Narwall and I did not want to see a carpet ruin the cleaning cycle of the Narwall.
Hi Thanks for the excellent video. I have seen a few ones on Robot Vacuum Garages also. Is it ok to park a robot vacuum in a garage while it is charging? Any thoughts?
I don't have carpets so Roborock S7 sounds perfect but I will stick to my Dreame D9 till it dies :D With Deebot mop attachment you can just stick a big (vacuum size) sticker on your floor and you can keep it wet like that. I do that with my Dreame.
@@TheHookUp The Braava Jet 240 has a vibrating head and both the Braava Jet 240 and M6 use a back and forth pattern which accomplishes the same goal as scrubbing. It is surprising that you didn't mention these at all considering most of the reviews I've seen rate the Braava models as the best mopping robots on the market. Additionally, needing to swap between vacuum and mopping modes means that the Narwaal has essentially the same downside as requiring a separate device.
I had a Scooba back in the day (and have a Bravaa now). It was a novel idea, at the time, but the performance wasn't great on tile, at least. I only ran it on tile, so can't speak to other surfaces. It was also quite finicky and prone to problems.
How often the Roborock S7+ would need to replace the filter and the mod pad? Also does the original purchase of S7+ would have the filter+ pad already? Thanks
I've used 3 different types of robotic vacuum/mops in just the last 12 months. My biggest advice is DON'T buy any robotic mops that drags a wet cloth around the room. It's only spreading the dirt around unless you continually rinse the cloth every 5 minutes, which defeats the purpose of getting a robot. Get a robot that has a separate clean water and dirty water tanks. Works like a charm. The second biggest thing to consider is cleaning the robot after each use. It's a real serious matter, as some are tedious to clean.
How do these compare to the Roomba S9+/Braava Jet M6 combo? That Narwal one is only a little bit cheaper than the S9+/M6 combo and what I've seen of this setup has pretty much sealed the deal for me...all the automation, the "no go zones", the way they work together...they're pretty amazing. Maybe replace the M6 with one of these? Thoughts, anyone?
@@balla2828 Yup. The J7 vacuums and the M6 mops. Gotta say, I'm REALLY impressed with the results. Really does work great. Kinda handy being able to have them both doing separate jobs at the same time, too. Can't do that with a vac/mop combo.
So, cleaning solution residue? When will they make something that hooks up to mains water and drain, and uses water to rinse after cleaning solution smh -_-
Hey there. Great review! I’m looking for a good mopping robot, and we barely have carpets in our house. Have you checked out the yeedi mop station and ecovacs Omni?
Tried to make the B-Roll a little bit prettier this week, what do you think? Better or Worse?
I wouldn't have noticed that you did anything different if you hadn't mentioned it. It was all very effective though and did a great job conveying exactly what you were talking about at the time.
Much improved
@@big-ted4065 Awesome!
@@JevVan Thanks!
So good i didn't notice it. That's how it's meant to be though.
Well.. you talked me into spending $1k on a mop. I hope you're happy
Mop/vacuum.. that helped me rationalize it better. You're welcome =)
@@OviWanKeno9i One month update: To be fair, it's a pretty phenomenal mop/vacuum. Would buy again
@@xerojer which one
@@xerojer I bought the brava m6 based of his comments but returned it. It was literally comical how stupid it was ramming into things and spraying the walls and furniture. It barely cleaned too
Based on who’s comments? I never suggested the braava m6.
I have the Roborock S7. Here's a tip with the Roborock S7 mop pad ...
Soak the mopping pad with a cleaning detergent and water.. and squeeze the excess water from the pad before mopping .
Then just fill the water tank with regular water (no detergent). And there you have it ... The mop pad is presoaked in detergent and should be good to go for the entire house cycle.! Works a treat
Simple, yet brilliant. This might actually make the S7 worth it, for me!
I do that sometimes and I also use a mist bottle filled with cleaning detergent to spay the areas with hardwood before the cleaning.
at that point I will be finished with manual mopping already for a $5.99 investment into a manual mop + a free workout LOL
I have an interesting tip too. I have Roborock S5 Max for over a year now and I use cleaning detergent everytime. I put it into water tank with water heated up to 80°C and use 2x runs on every room.
The cleaning works pretty good, the robot is not damaged in any way even after a whole year of using and no component had be replaced yet.
The point is which detergent do you use I think. I use Sanytol which doesn't contain chlorine and other aggressive chemicals and I think that's the trick for safe usage with Roborock robot vacuum cleaners.
@@SgtIdontcare Same. I have an S7 and I add a capful of fabuloso to the water tank since it’s not acidic or too strong. I think you would only run into issues if you’re using bleach or harsh chemicals. Who would mop with just water? Lol
Had the stellar Roborock S6 but it didn't have a good mopping solution. I bought the S7 on Black Friday for $455 and bought 4 vacuum filters, 4 mop pads, and 4 brushes for $28 more. Put the S6 on the lower level and the S7 on the main floor where it is an open floor plan, that shares the kitchen hard wood floors with the living room carpet. LOVE this thing!! Cleans the hard wood floors and vacuums the carpet like a champ. Going to buy the self empty station next.
In my experience, 80% of 'real world' mopping is 'dragging a dirty cloth along the floor'.
Great review! Because of you I purchased my first robot vacuum and it was a Roborock S7 from Refhop and have no regrets. I’m glad I found your channel, thank you for the reviews you do on products.
I have a Bravaa mop that basically just drags the pad around and honestly it works fine if you run it at least once a week. As long as you don't have super old set in stains these mops work just fine.
Depends also on where you live and who you live with, and heavily depens on your type of floor.
@@kirakira9906 - Very True. For us, we have a modest tile section of the house and use a J7+ for 2100 sq ft home vacuuming and the Brava M6 for the mopping on ~1000-1200 sq ft. Would love an all-in-one vacuum that does both well, but one doesn't exist just yet. They either are amazing at vacuuming and poor at mopping or vice versa.
you don't need to throw your Roborock S7 mopping pads into the wash machine after each use. They rinse out perfectly clean under the faucet and takes about 30 seconds to clean for the next run. I have the S6 MaxV and it's perfect on hard floor and tile both mopping and vacuuming.
Moping the floor with the Ecovacs T8 Ozmo Pro attachment, you have to Pause the vacuum, carry it to the other hard floors in your house, and then resume the vacuum. A bit of a hassle, but it wasn’t a deal breaker for me. I am overall very happy with my Ecovacs T8 AIVI. 😊
I’ve heard the “water only” is to prevent clogs of random detergents. But white vinegar won’t clog and is a key ingredient in many brand liquids. It would be interesting to see how vinegar water solution in the S7 compares with the Narwall. I’ve put Dettol and another simple detergent in my S5 Max without problems.
The Swiffer wet mop liquid works without issues too. The S7 with the Mr Clean branded Swiffer stuff is perfect floors.
I've used cleaning products on my roborock S5 max for over a year. No issues.
@@JonathanRootD i used floor celaner one time and it clogged attachment :( but I managed to clean it with vinegar
Ive found that some of the all-round-cleaning solution I put into my S3 would very rapidly gum up the little ceramic filter things that sit between the reservoir and the pad (good thing they are cheap and replacable). Havnt experimented with my S7 yet; if I do have any spots of concern I tend to just spray them manually and give them some time to soak; very effective and dont need to drag some funny smelling substance through my entire house. I like the smell of vinegar but im not sure what itd do to my tiles and grout in the long term.
Its true the older style S3 mopping is kindof a joke; but I run it on my second floor now where its just bedrooms, and that works alright. Wont get any hard stains but dragging a wet cloth around will catch that fine static dust that refuses to get sucked up otherwise. On the first floor, with a front door, yard door, kitchen, and dinner table with two todlers, the S3 mopping isnt really worth bothering with. But I find the S7 a real lifesaver. Dont know what id do anymore without automatic mopping. Though on a busy day mopping once is hardly enough to get down to that 'the mopping pad would come out clean if id run it again' level. Perhaps im one of those crazy people who is on the market for adding a Narwal on top of that. Does seem like a solid machine and my first floor is continuous tile anyway.
guys, I’ll tell you a secret. instead of putting detergent in the water container, put it directly on the cloth. Easy and no clog issue
Roborock has official cleaning solution for the mop tanks now. I have just started using it and there is a difference vs plain water. I have had my S7+ for almost a year now (10/2021) and am very pleased with it's function. It was $949 at that time for price reference.
I have the Roborock and the Ecovacs and they both have their strengths and weaknesses. The Roborock does have a tiny "Sonic" portion of the mop that moves back and forth and it also will raise over the carpet but only to 4mms so if your carpet is taller, it will get wet. The Ecovacs whole pad oscillates but it's throw away pads are terrible, use the original cloth pads or T9 pads and you'll have a much better clean. Navigation, I believe is better on the Roborock having a different type of Lidar than the Ecovacs. BUT the Ecovacs has "Object Avoidance" front firing lasers which allows it to not smack your furniture, hit walls quite as hard, tangle up in cords, or run over poop like the Roborock will inevitably do. The Roborock has better suction and a newer all rubber front roller so it's a better vacuum for sure. So that's basically the pluses and minuses of the 2 vacs/mops. I must say I got the Ecovacs for less than half the price than the Roborock as they regularly go on sale and the Roborocks hardly every go on sale. I like them both. so I use them both.
I'm that guy that bought his GF a vacuum for her birthday. She loves the S7. I actually sold it as the anti vacuum present. As in the vac does all the work so she doesn't have to. She had a low end Roomba without controls. It just bumped into everything and got stuck. The Roborock is night and day. They just released replacement bags for the auto empty. The only cons are it doesn't tell you when the water tank is empty or when the auto empty is full. Minor issues in the big picture. Do buy extra pads. Amazon sells exact replacements from a third party much cheaper than Roborock. They must come from the same factory as they are identical. You are going to want to switch out and wash the pad after each use.
I got a Roborock S6 MaxV which got such a dumb mop system you criticised. And it just mops daily and has a dirty mop each day. My floor on the other hand stays clean. So the mopping performance is excellent in my opinion.
You can even let it run 3 times in a room in a criss cross pattern which will remove even dried stuff in the kitchen if you had an "accident" while cooking.
Kitchen sprayer and a little dish soap cleans the mop pads fine in your sink in a couple minutes
My Robo S7 has been a lifesaver. I have 2 dogs and a mix of carpet and hard tile. Yes, it's expensive but having a clean house is worth it.
We got the Narwal for Black Friday and it is amazing. Our floor is not sticky after running it and it leaves the house smelling neutral but clean. I really like the Narwal detergent. Plus the fact that we have zero carpet lol
One mop no one talks about is the ilife w400 or new 450. They are both under $400, have a rotating bristle with a vacuum! It’s a pure mop but one of my favorite on the market. The cleaning pattern is similar to the Narwal but on the newest model it has LiDAR. This mob can actually suck up wet debris. You can place it on top of a spill and not worry about it smudging it through the rest of the clean.
I heard of a new DYSON robot vacuum to be released in 2030 priced at $15,999. It will be no better than the $200 robot vacuum from Best buy but it looks new age so hence the price. LOL
I owned one Dyson in my life and it was the biggest pofs vacuum I ever owned.
2030😊😊😊
I don't know if its just me, but i just let the Roborock S6 Max clean the carpet as well, it doesn't leave it wet even on Max, so i don't think people should worry too much about it, i've had mine for a year ish now
I'm looking to buy a roborock s5 max. Reason is that i don't need the mopping feature to clean stains, but to maintain a already clean floor, clean. For 66m2 i think it'll do that just fine.
Super happy with my Roborock S7!! Auto empty bin is currently out of stock. I can’t wait for it be back in stock!!
How do you like it? We have 2700 sq ft carpet, tile and vinyl. One Persian cat and 1 girl. Concerned about pet hair and ability to clean carpets. Any issues with emptying the dirt bin or hair breaking or getting stuck on rollers etc? How is the maintenance?
S7 does not move the entire pad, only the small center section, you can clearly see it when you remove the mop cloth and look at the attachment and cloth itself. That's why you can't really see any motion from outside.
Also, if S7 misidentifies a carpet, you can mark that spot as false positive and it won't identify a carpet there anymore (you can reverse it if you do get a carpet). So you can easily tell it that e.g. entire toilet etc. are no-carpet zones and you should have no problems.
Yeah, the S7 can edit carpet, but the T8 cannot. I should have been more clear about that. Good to know about only the middle part moving.
Got my s7 about a month ago. Best purchase I have ever made. With a 2 year old, I am still able to clean the floor every day.
I use the ecovacs t8 with the ozmo mopping, I use the swifter wet pads and omg, life changing!!!!
the combo sale is available right now for 720 dollars and includes the auto empty base!
guys, I’ll tell you a secret.
instead of putting detergent in the water container, put it directly on the cloth. Easy and no clog issue
Thanks for another great video! I had been planning on just a robotic vacuum and still mopping by hand. We have about 1000 SQ ft of hardwood/tile on the main floor at the new house, with the master bath being separated by carpet. After watching this, I think we'll go with the S7 (via your affiliate link, of course) when the time comes. Thanks for mentioning the HA integration!
I think you will be very happy with the S7.
Well, the roborock has a new version that have the vaccum, the cleaner and a base station that can auto clean the pad. Maybe you should test that.
Coming soon, also the deebot x1, and dreame w10.
@@TheHookUp Nice when will these videos be up?
I love my Roborock S7. Perfect for the first floor of our 2300 square foot home. We have only wood floors on the first floor and that is where the Roborock works. The water only mopping thank is not a problem. The cheat is to dampen the mopping pads with cleaning solution or even bleach solution for when you have strong stains to work on. That solves the problem and the result is outstanding. 🙂
Thing is, you usually don't need to wet scrub a floor in living space unless you didn't clean it for over a year and walked on it with dirty schoes constantly... So "normal" mopping robots are still better than not mopping at all.
Dude- what a review! Thank you so much for taking out the time to do this. Much appreciated!
As much as I'd like to have 1 device to do everything I realised that it's best if you get 2 separate ones. 1 to concentrate on the vacuuming and the other for mopping, that's if you can afford it and have the space for 2 robot bases.
Really tempted to get the Narwal T10, I have an Ecovacs N8+, and using NodeRed I coukd make the N8+ vacuum the floor, and when it reports a completed run, I could have the Narwal mop after it.
Integration, still the key to a really smart home.
I dont have carpets at all and have huge space to store the aivi stuff, I also have only laminate floor and really happy with the T8 aivi after 1 year of using it.
Oof big price tag, but in the long run might actually be worth the time saved.
Hi,
A thorough review, but needs to add information that some are waiting for:
You know how there's the Roomba S9+, then there's the Braava Jet M6?
Many already choose to have separate moping and vacuuming.
The problem with the Braava is that it cannot travel over thresholds.
So if you DO have hard floors, the Braava is still useless, as it can't go from one room to another, unless the elevation change is ..less than a threshold is.
In other tests, other dedicated, or semi-dedicated mops also failed to cross thresholds between hard floor rooms.
I watched your video, hoping that you will test this and report how the Narval did, as I am thinking more and more that it will be the unit I want to use, in conjunction with the Roomba S9+.
None of these vacuums had any issue with the 1/4" thresholds in my house, and the Ecovacs and Roborock were also all able to traverse a 1/2" yoga mat without issue. The Narwal did push around the yoga mat, but it may have been able to cross it if it was secured to the ground.
the M6 can't climb because it thinks thresholds are carpets, therefore, going away from it. There is a threshold mode now, which disables the carpet detection wherever you put the virtual box at.
Re the problem with the S7 erroneously detecting carpet on the tile - you can go into the map and tell it an area is not carpet.
Well I got my self a roborock s7. Its awesome really really good. It vacuumed good and the mopping is good. I only have to mop once every second month and vacuum when needed in corners and places that's no go zone's
This dude does video reviews on robotic mops way better than me doing my thesis
Thanks as always for another great video. As you stated, things are getting better but I'd say we're still not at the point of general practicality with these products. Prices are simply too high for the compromises and shortcomings that each still exhibits.
Finally a mop that actually cleans itself instead of just dragging a dirty pad around your house. Why has anyone spent money or time dealing with robo mops that don't clean themselves? Who cares if they don't scrub -- they don't (and literally can't) do anything productive without self cleaning.
I like to run my Narwal every few nights in my kitchen, it's a nice little mopper (though pretty expensive) Great review and comparison!
My Narwal stopped working after a few months, with a check clean water tank error. It is way too overpriced for it to fail after only a few months.
@@clattanzio 16% of their reviews on Amazon are 1-star. Sounds like they have some serious quality control issues.
My gosh the chinese companies dominate the automatic robot cleaning industry. Well may be I'd consider buying a Roborock S7+
You forgot to include the Hobot Legee. It does 2 sweeping motions at high frequency like a real mop plus it has vacuuming all in one go !
I have S7 since launch, it is top performer. You should mention in your video that it can be controlled also with Siri out of the box, not only with Alexa or google home.
How so? I can't find any homekit info on it.
@@TheHookUp there are siri shorctcuts available in the app, you can set up them as you want, selective room cleaning, all the functions.
@@Tommeehr Gotcha, I think those are only available in the Roborock version of the app. I'm using MiHome because there is a better home assistant integration.
@@TheHookUp correct, but with S7 siri is supported out of the box and after setup you can hide roborock app and not use it. I am just saying this because from the video, apple users can think that it is not siri capable, but it is, and that is very important for some users.
I love this feature when emptying the dustbin. I say Hey siri, empty the dustbin and the S6 meets me at the trashcan for dustbin maintenance.
I'd still prefer a deeper clean with the crosswave. This all seems like a waste of time for superficial cleaning.
Good review, you hit some solid points. Any thoughts on Roborock vs Dreame w10?
With roborock you shouldn't put products in the water tank , but you can still spray some detergent on the mop, chances are that the detergent will run out when the mop gets saturated with dirt and you'll have change it anyway (I usually just remove it ,wash it under running water ,wring and reapply the detergent and then trow it in the dirty laundry after a full cycle)
That said, it's been a bit more than a year that i'm adding an homemade detergent (one part of white vinegar, one part of distilled water, citrus peels ,rosemary, ) made by my wife to our roborock s5 maxtank with great results and no problem/breakage ,in case it's not available I add drops (2-3ml) of a mild "eco" brand detergent (no colourants or strong parfumes that require solvents , just a bit of limonene).
I bought the N8 Plus, and the empty station never empties. I end up having to manually empty every other day. I've tried cleaning and checking for clogs. Tried to tape one side of the bin shut. Nothing seems to work with this model.
This was dope. Now I regret telling my aunt the roborock s7 wasn't worth it lol I was just afraid that if they leave the mop on there for a long period of time it would make the floors dirtier and also wasn't sure if the s7 raised the mop high enough for the carpets. You should definitely review the roborock g10 when it comes out in the US (prob different name) since that works with an automatic mop pad cleaning dock
Yeah that bothers me with the vacuum mops, once the cloth is dirty it just dragons dirt around
I ended up going with the t8 only because of a $600 price difference here in australia. The t8 was $1100 with auto empty but roborock was 1199 without it
Holy smokes, your content is great! Everytime, very pragmatic attitude and well thought tests of devices. Keep doing that!
Personally my favourite is the iRobot braava (most expensive one they make) it’s good because it works in conjunction with my s9+ and I come home to a perfectly clean floor
Hi. What's your thoughts about the Eufy Hybrid x8?
Lots of money for not having an auto empty base.
dang, I get 2nds. I'm excited about this vid. My wife hasn't been to interested in a robot vac, but she has always said she would like a GOOD robot mop. Thanks for all the work you do and your excellent and informational videos!
I'm about to go hamm and get the Roomba J7+ just for vacuuming and Narwal for just mopping
I’ve had the S7 since launch, and it’s great so far.
How do you like it? We have 2700 sq ft carpet, tile and vinyl. One Persian cat and 1 girl. Concerned about pet hair and ability to clean carpets. Any issues with emptying the dirt bin or hair breaking or getting stuck on rollers etc? How is the maintenance?
Thank you for this video! I've been looking at the T8 and S7 and flip flopping between them for about a month now. I've been leaning toward S7 but your video has solidified it for me!
I have bought the S5 Max November 2020, and honesty it's a great vacuum and a pretty decent mop cleaner, so this ca just be a ton better with the rubbing feature.
I'd go with it too and I might since my house is on two floors.
What did you decide on? How do you like it? We have 2700 sq ft carpet, tile and vinyl. One Persian cat and 1 girl. Concerned about pet hair and ability to clean carpets. Any issues with emptying the dirt bin or hair breaking or getting stuck on rollers etc? How is the maintenance?
@@shanew7361 I ended up with the S7. I used it without the auto empty station for a month and emptied the dust bin after each vacuum session. It's pretty simple to do and you can rinse the bin with water. Now I have the auto empty station and don't do that any longer. I still check to make sure nothing has gotten caught in the filter, which happens from time to time, but it's pretty simple. As far as long hair goes, I haven't had any issues. No problems with anything getting stuck in the roller. I really do like the mopping. You should wet the mop pad before hand, otherwise it doesn't mop as well. All in all, it's more fun than vacuuming with an upright. And in the future when our elderly cats are gone, I can put it on an automated schedule.
@@Mephmt Do you utilize the bags in the outside auto dock bin?
@@shanew7361 If you mean, do I use the bag? Yes. I wasn't aware that you could use it without the bag. Sounds messy.
maybe to get good results is to get independent device for each purpose, a just moping floor robot and a vacum robot.
Excellent video. Loved the relatable tests and thorough and clear explanations. Thank you
Video idea: esphome versus tasmota versus espeasy versus, etc
I kind of love how the narwhal just runs over the carpet. It is a mop and it will mop, no question about it.
I think spinning mops are stupid. Looks like a car polisher. 😂
Thats not how you mop floors either.
So if I live in a 550 sq ft all hardwood apartment. With rugs and one cat one dog. Should I go for the robo Rock?
Using a hand held mop is great it's exercise and you can know how clean it actually is
But also I can't afford one.... And I'm 16 so it's my duty and I can't not mop the floor
I'm glad you said the prices in the start.
Thank you for teaching me about the addon to my Deebot!
I just wish the S7 had better object avoidance! It seems perfect in every other regard
Get the Same Max Ultra.
Get the S7 Maxv Ultra.
Thanks for this. It was a really great video. My wife and I were just looking into Robo Vacuums\Mops the other day. This really provided some good options and food for thought.
is it thinkable another updated review what (low cost) options for active mopping, for example bissell spinwave 2 in 1 with rotating mops, what is available etc.
I am always impressed with all your review videos. Thank you.
Do you think the Narwal Freo meets your upgrade recommendation discussed in this Narwal T10's review?
I'll be doing an updated review shortly which will include the Narwal Freo.
Thank you. I will look forward to it.
I am still waiting one that doesn't require switching between mop and vacuum manually. A true autonomous Vacuum+Mop will rock the market.
Sooo, the S7 that was shown here?
I have a Narwal for mopping and a different robot for vacuuming.
Is the The Braava jet® m6 not good enough to make the list?
I’m real curious why he skipped that. Mine does amazing. People love to hate on iRobot but I find it’s mostly hyperbolic
I skipped it due to all the terrible reviews, do you have any personal experience with it?
@@TheHookUp Yes, I've been using it for several months. I think the robot crowd is just loud and hyperbolic. I've had zero issues and it mops great
@@TheHookUp I returned my EcoVacs T8 AIVI with the power mopping attachment to get a Braava Jet m6
I found that using 1/3 to 1/2 the amount of mopping solution reduced the streaking on our dark hard floors. The reusable / washable mopping pads are good for three larger rooms (i.e. living room) with normal traffic. I've found that the dust pads are one of the fastest ways to get up all the dog hair in the house, beating any vacuum for speed (and much quieter).
Another awesome comparison test video! Thanks Rob 👍
Would u still choose roborock if all your floors were tile with grout lines
I am getting the Robo s7 and the narwhal, have the s7 before and then the narwhal after.
You've got to update this video with the best options for 2022
One more downside for Narwal is that they do ship only to USA and imagine I am from EU :D
I am using the Narwal T10. Nice product!
I have the Roomba S9 with the automatic emptying base and then I will also order the Narwall T10 when it will become available this Friday. Since I have two separate robots to clean my home I am sure that I will have a very clean home and I also don’t have any carpets for this reason. I had a carpet, but I removed it since I new that I would have a Narwall and I did not want to see a carpet ruin the cleaning cycle of the Narwall.
This is such an amazing review. Very informative. Very thorough.
Hi
Thanks for the excellent video. I have seen a few ones on Robot Vacuum Garages also. Is it ok to park a robot vacuum in a garage while it is charging? Any thoughts?
Oh I think you just sold me on the narwal mop. Do you have shipping links where you get a kick back before I order on Amazon?
I don't have carpets so Roborock S7 sounds perfect but I will stick to my Dreame D9 till it dies :D With Deebot mop attachment you can just stick a big (vacuum size) sticker on your floor and you can keep it wet like that. I do that with my Dreame.
how does the Braava from iRobot compare do you think?
Braava has a few downsides:
1) No vibration/scrubbing
2) Cannot pass over thresholds
3) Also requires a separate vacuum to perform well
@@TheHookUp The Braava Jet 240 has a vibrating head and both the Braava Jet 240 and M6 use a back and forth pattern which accomplishes the same goal as scrubbing. It is surprising that you didn't mention these at all considering most of the reviews I've seen rate the Braava models as the best mopping robots on the market. Additionally, needing to swap between vacuum and mopping modes means that the Narwaal has essentially the same downside as requiring a separate device.
Seems like none of these are as good as the discontinued iRobot Scuba. Robotic autoscrubber >> robotic mop.
I had a Scooba back in the day (and have a Bravaa now). It was a novel idea, at the time, but the performance wasn't great on tile, at least. I only ran it on tile, so can't speak to other surfaces. It was also quite finicky and prone to problems.
How often the Roborock S7+ would need to replace the filter and the mod pad?
Also does the original purchase of S7+ would have the filter+ pad already?
Thanks
Do they have replaceable battery packs.? I'm not a fan of throw away.
How are these with pet fur? We have a cat and 2 dogs that shed like crazy and kinda worried it’ll cause some sort of blockage
I've used 3 different types of robotic vacuum/mops in just the last 12 months. My biggest advice is DON'T buy any robotic mops that drags a wet cloth around the room. It's only spreading the dirt around unless you continually rinse the cloth every 5 minutes, which defeats the purpose of getting a robot. Get a robot that has a separate clean water and dirty water tanks. Works like a charm. The second biggest thing to consider is cleaning the robot after each use. It's a real serious matter, as some are tedious to clean.
Can you recommend one please?
How do these compare to the Roomba S9+/Braava Jet M6 combo? That Narwal one is only a little bit cheaper than the S9+/M6 combo and what I've seen of this setup has pretty much sealed the deal for me...all the automation, the "no go zones", the way they work together...they're pretty amazing. Maybe replace the M6 with one of these? Thoughts, anyone?
so right now you use two robots? 1 for vacuum and 1 for mopping?
@@balla2828 Yup. The J7 vacuums and the M6 mops. Gotta say, I'm REALLY impressed with the results. Really does work great. Kinda handy being able to have them both doing separate jobs at the same time, too. Can't do that with a vac/mop combo.
So, cleaning solution residue?
When will they make something that hooks up to mains water and drain, and uses water to rinse after cleaning solution smh -_-
I say leave the mopping alone, they just arent smart enough to get the tough stains. Get the Roborock S5 if you want flawless vacuuming.
Hey there. Great review! I’m looking for a good mopping robot, and we barely have carpets in our house. Have you checked out the yeedi mop station and ecovacs Omni?
yep, just put out this video: th-cam.com/video/OE0qToDBfcg/w-d-xo.html
I want a robot to do a little bit more for me than just mop my floors, if you know what I mean. Any suggestions?
ty so much for this video, im sold on just mopping myself and using a robot vacuum to help instead
Fantastic experiment. Thank you for providing this.
@TheHookUp, know this is old but wondering why you didn't buy a water/dust tower for the S7, too expensive or wasn't around at the time?
Wasn't around at the time, I reviewed it in this video: th-cam.com/video/OE0qToDBfcg/w-d-xo.html