Deep Bass Throat Singing Tutorial with Jerry Walsh (from the Overtone Throat Singing Course)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ส.ค. 2022
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Join overtone throat singing expert Jerry Walsh for this tutorial on how to do the deep bass throat singing technique known as "Kargyraa." Access that deeper side of the voice using the tips and techniques shown in this video.
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I've been doing it for 20+ years. Your lower register will develop as you relax further and further into lower and lower notes. Don't push your voice, give it time
once you start drooling and coughing, your going too low. Go up a couple octaves and practice being comfortable there.
@@craigrigby1498 what if you cough no mater how hard lol
@@BSUxFAN29 then your pushing your lower register too hard. It takes alot of time to train your vocal tract to comfortably handle those lower frequencies w/o coughing.
i have been doing it for about 13 or so now !
just got it!! my neighbors are about to hate me
Same (stopped cause I heard complains haha)
everyone watching this video: HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
You know I think learning to mimic Yoda pretty well as a kid has helped me find the sweet spot pretty quick. I've been practicing Kargyraa for about a year now and beatboxing for about 7.
great tip!
That’s so funny you mentioned the Yoda voice! I’ve been able to imitate Yoda since I was a kid and that’s how I channeled this ability. It’s so cool! Once I realized it’s just doing Yoda I got it!
Literally just commented about the fact that my main problem is sounding like Yoda and I'm not sure how to fix this
I find that being hydrated is super important for avoiding discomfort and injury.
There’s far more elasticity in the vocal chords when you are hydrated. Less rigid muscle movement/control, less pain.
The majority of Americans are dehydrated as our diets are pretty garbage and chemical exposure is considerable despite how conscientious you are of said exposure.
Healthier micro biome, more mucosal microbes in your throat, less irritation.
Theory aside, I’ve noticed this difference when practicing between periods of health concienciousness, and incorporating a few poor dietary choices.
I practice overtone singing almost daily.
Amen brother
Dude I just did it!!!!!!
I know how it works now!!!
You're the 1st person who has been able to explain it to me. I never realized but I've actually been doing this for a long time. I can activate those folds by just breathing a certain way buy I've never tried talking or singing with it. I'm no where near your level bit I definitely have it now. Thankyou so much.
Congrats
I tried (at 4:30 am in my bed) and i think i got the vibration but i'm not sure at all. It also seem to work steadily only with certain notes and it's hard to Project voice
Thank you so much... I accidentally missed a step and now a portal has opened...
Explanation was good. Helped me truly understand after 5 or so months of playing around while washing dishes.
Happy to be of service!
Thank you so much Jerry, the most detailed guidance!🙏
Sounds wicked!
finally great tutorial from beatbox perspective
Your guidance was the key for me to finally find that vibration in my throat! I shared this vid with my kids!!! Very glad I found this!
I learned throat singing on my own just like you described at around 7min, and the best way for me to describe it, it was like picking a lock but the lock was throat instead.
Dude, this is CRAZY! I’ve been able to do the basic part of this for my whole life, on accident, but I can’t seem to get to the next step. Granted, I’m on day 2. No pain. Still trying.
I ~kinda~ had it before this, but I was quiet. Turns out i was doing it too high in my throat, this unlocked the volume! Ty!
Same exact boat as you! It was vibrating, but my throat singing/bass was quieter than my normal voice by a lot even though I was purposely trying to use more breath to make it louder. I just had to do other lower in my throat
Dude love this content
I´ve been struggling until I hear you say: below the vocal cord an now I can do it without ANY effort or problem. I´ve been doing it before but it never occured to me that, that could be it. The vibration really is relaxing for my throught and head, especially when im lying down. You explain it a lot better than any other person I´ve come across so far.
My kargyraa tone is very deep much deeper than my normal voice. sometimes I wonder what my "normal" voice is like. I tend to make my voice higher to sound more friendly and approachable I guess. I´ve had voice development lessons and have sung solo and in groups in my childhood.
Honestly I´ve always wanted to learn the drums, only guitar was granted to me. But ultimately I think the voice is the ultimate Instrument.
You´ve helped me a LOT! Thanks!
The higher one hurts much faster for me and is harder to do. For me the lower tibetan one is much much easier and comes more natural.
Thank u for sharing!!!
Dude, been trying to get the vibration for a while now and came up with nada. I found my first true vibration after watching your explanation. Scared the 🐕 too. lol Thanks for an awesome video. ✌🏼
the thing you do at 15:31 i have been doing for years at the side of my regular kargyraa practice, it has gotten to a point where i can do it without hurting DURING the sound production but the vocal chords will always feel beaten up afterward, i really think it's a technique the throat cannot fully adjust to and i would discourage anyone from doing it regularly, it just doesn't get better. Probably ok to do once in a while for a recording but not good for practicing every day with.
One thing i do have noticed about it is that the adam apple goes way up with that technique unlike regular kargyraa where it is free to move around.
Love this Video and sounds👍👍👍😜
funny enough, I found this by accident myself.... doing metal vocals. I was just warming up making a hard E sound and playing with mouth shapes (before doing any false chord screaming) and I just kind of his this sweet spot where it started to do it on its on. Super cool and fun.
I had to learn to throat sing TO do metal vocals lol. Will Ramos throat sings to get his false chords goin. It’s awesome how they line up.
For me, it was much more like a tickle than pain. Would make me cough quite a bit when learning but now I can do it no problem
thank you!
Yooo I'm like an amateur beatboxer and this video is spot on, didn't even know I've been doing this for years exactly like you said through beatboxing ❤ helped me alot
P.s damn yeah lost my voice for a few days
We all probably look constipated 🤣🤣🤣 All joking aside, I love it
The Yoda comment I think just helped me find it! Now to stop coughing!
practicing this creates tears in my eyes
Thank you so much from a fellow out of the box singer, violinist and composer from Norway 🌞🎻👏
and... you learned me 🥰
Try Squatting while doing the warmup, Vs, Zs, and Chs. Or monster sound.
The Roar of Your Soul
Your explanation is amazing and I learnt a lot from it, however I did miss an explanation about breathing techniques. Maybe you do talk about breathing techniques often in other videos, but this was the first video I saw of you. Besides that I just saw an explanation of a (I think, correct me if i"m wrong) Mongolian guy called Hachapuri on youtube, he explained that the start of your sound for throat singing lies at the grunt of when you sigh, for instance after a long day of work. This grunt which is kind of buried in your sigh should be the start of throat singing and from there on you should try to hold on to this vibration, that explanation helped me a lot to find the kind of sound I was looking for. Maybe that could help others to find the sort of sound they're looking for as well. However, besides that I learned a lot from this video, almost got the dual tones out of it! :)
That’s a nice shirt, man
After 27 videos (I'm not kidding) and some seat and tears, finally got a clean throat bass. Amazing explanation. Thank you
Been doing death metal guttural vocals for decades, but I'm bored with it, and only just now trying to learn throat singing, specifically the Kargyyra technique. Some of the same basic fundamentals apply, at least in terms of learning to utilize the vocal folds (i.e. false vocal cords) as opposed to the vocal cords, so I have at least a tiny bit of a head start. Thanks for the tutorial! Super helpful.
Interesting that you have a similiar issue like me. I do Kargyraa for more than 3 years now and I just do not feel comfortable learning growling like in death metal.
Fun Fact: Your videos were part of the sources I used to teach myself about throat singing! So I owe you a big thank you 🙂
most welcome :)
Hi Michael! I guess that your issue is that in Kargyraa the vocal folds are activated. There is voice in it.
This is not the case with screaming (growling is, in fact, a low scream).
I am decent with both throat singing and extreme vocale techniques, and the difference is basically that.
Low screams, usually based on the vibration of the false folds, requires the vocal folds to be open, so they are not engaged. High screams instead are usually (not always) procuded by closing the vocal folds and letting the air pass through them, but without engaging them, so they kinda vibrate (as everything around them), but do not produce any tone.
In other words, with "death metal" screams the vocal folds are usually inactive, and the timber is given by mouth shape and tounge postition. Vocal folds can be used, but that's not for beginners. If you don't know him already, check Devin Townsend's song Deadhead (the live at Royal Alber Hall would be the best) for an example of this technique.
Air flow is another key aspect. With screaming the air flow is very soft, almost like a whisper.
@@SiboWoW Interesting. I also felt that throat singing sound more harmonic with the actual voice in the spectrum, compared to screaming / growling. Thank you very much for your explanaitions and suggestions!
Dig this , u cool bro
how about the P and B sounds, like in studio
I did not know how to growl before this. So, I definitely learned something. I think I made one throat singing sound too!
Posture is super important.
I can’t do this while laying down.
I've been trying to gt into the subharmonic series for months now and have apparently been knocking on this door.
Is this the way to 2nd and 3rd subharmonics or is that a different technique altogether?
Appreciate you
Thanks, When you refer to the area in the throat thats being used, you touch your throat quite low down is that where its coming from? mine just tickles and I end up coughing.
directly below the vocal chords
Any lullaby song in tuva?
I practiced as a kid in front of a fan on the floor. Blowing into the fan makes a cool sound as the blades pass. With practice my deep breathing improved by volumes.
I don’t know why but I can do this so easily I just need to form it into words and sing like some of the guys from heilung, i can oddly do throat singing from inhaling as well
after tonselectumy?
can higher and lower tones be reached with training practise?
get over the discomfort
I am trying to circular breath i think i have it but even having air just cant make longer the sound is this normal ?and eventually i am going to do longer Sound practicing? It has take me 6 months to practice with your videos but the air just can be balance in my nose lungs abs and chicks
I know you had to add "bass" in between that 😂
Got a question, does your nose vibrate when you do this? Because I can do it 2 ways, and one of them makes my nose vibrate, but I feel like I run out of air faster
Dawg they patched it
Sounded like Alex Jones when you were talking with that voice
Can you do a howler monkey ?
are the techniques different for female? Idk if thats a silly question
Not really. But I think it's harder to learn and control for women and will sound very different.
Ok so I'm figuring this out but I sound a lot like Yoda what do I do?
Has anyone gotten to it by doing buzzing sound like a bee but using a little more air to it. I managed to find the "golden vibration" by two ways. Other one needs more air and pressure and other one is kind of just blowing air out of the way and can be maintained for longer. Idk wich one is the right way.
That seems helpful. Thanks
I wonder how you get the tone one octave below your natural voice.
I do know how to hold back air so as to let the vocal chords vibrate
on and UNDER-tone, as in exactly one octave below.
But is that what you do? I intuitively understand all the rest.
But the very loud bas UNDERtones are what interest me.
Can someone please describe to me the actual vocal chord technique
used to achoeve this low bass frequency, never mind the flute like overtones
that are so easy to comprehend, and hard to do,
unlike the elephant in the room, the great bass volume
that is equally hard to identify and to perform?
Kargyraa uses the vocal folds and, most importantly, the false vocal folds. The vibration of the false vocal folds (which are located above the vocal folds) cause the octave drop you are referring to
@@GioTrev_ Thank you very much!
@@knudsandbknielsen1612 You're welcome :). I just corrected a typo I made, the false vocal folds, that are above the vocal folds, vibrate and as a result you get a subharmonic which is an exact octave below the original sound produced by the vocal folds (You need to "think" about singing an octave higher than the note you want to produce). The difficult part of this style is learning how to properly activate the false vocal folds
Maybe have some warm water with lemon and honey on hand to help with the coughing.
Lookup Mantak Chia dude.
Hey Jerry I’m not trying to sound conceited or anything, but this is the second video of yours that I watched today. I’ve never in my life throat sang, I’ve listen to it a little bit, definitely like it, but I am singing in exact harmony with you. like I’ve done it my whole life. What do I do to get better because I’ve never been really talented at anything before. Lol thanks for what you’re doing
I find I use way too much air. Like I can do it, but only for a few seconds
I going to learn this only to sing "mooyaaaaaaiii"
You mean
Каргыраа!
Dude went 🗿
What does that shit mean man? Been seeing people use that emoji a lot for some reason
@@RulemSchrieven When they put the moai emoji, you have to basically play throat singing in your head, you can watch the moai meme sound in youtube.
I hope you understand :)
Wait no is it the sling blade fry voice it feels it maybe I am wrong probably wrong is it the fat albert fry I dunno I can at least faux it.
Edit: Yeah this seems to be it I guess. I dunno I always could do this stuff thought it was far more complex. I mean it does sound the same neat. I always could do it.
Edit: I will warn you guys this will break the illusion for those super deep bass singers you are like how the hell. I could do this since my teens and had no clue lol.
Spewing tonsil stones
I can start with my mouth open
I try it, and i sounds like a dieselengine. XD
I keep having to cough
Bro same, did you get it?
Bass singers have trouble with this. It sounds like two rubber bands banging together.
I guess I'm antitalent :( Tutorial and tips are very clear but can't make my voice vibrating. Still do it by throat what hurts :(
Übung macht den Meister
Does smoking weed make this more difficult? Just curious if most vocalist don't smoke for this reason
I smoke and I am decent at metal vocals (fry,false and guttural) and I just learned this technique after watching this video, no it doesn’t you just have to find the right spot
@@carter_w- bruh I've been wanting to learn how to do literally any type of scream for like 10 years now.. all I can do is inhales and I know it supposed to be bad for you.. I honestly don't understand how the guttural sound isn't from an inhale..
@@BSUxFAN29 yea man honestly once you can find the fry scream you can do anything. I guttural from my fry and I’ll tell u this you can do judt about anything by moving ur tongue and lips (like going rlly low for gutturals) and yeah I smoke a lot of weed and I learned the Mongolian throat singing stuff in one day maybe I have a knack for it but it’s in around the same area of the throat but the throat singing takes place below the chords on the flaps and metal screaming is all about moving the chords and flaps
@@BSUxFAN29 try gutturals by putting the tongue on the top of the top teeth right behind them and make butthole lips and do a fry scream … moving your tongue around you should be able to find it , remember to relax your throat
@@carter_w- would you say fry or throat singing would be better to start with?
I feel like I’m just using vocal fry not this
You can now metal scream!
Great voice Jerry, but this deep throat singing is not possible for women, isn't it?
Nofing is impossible!:)
Ive seen women do things very very close especially in beatboxing community
If you have a healthy vocal anatomy, it is possible. It's just gonna sound a little different.
It is possible.
Women can definitely do throat singing. Look up Nytt Land