I'm a female alto but hearing your voice, I found out that I can sing lower than my teacher thought I could. Your techniques are really cool! Thank you!
Another alto/contralto here! How low can you sing. My lowest good note is a C3. I'm so sick and tired of all the people celebrating the very high notes (I have no chance at all to hit), I started to evolve my low notes, even if nobody notice it is difficult too. So I can expand my vocal range on the other end and have the possibility to sing the tenor songs, without any strain, even if it sound somekind of weird an wrong (it's still a female voice). Because there are nearly no good songs for contraltos in musicals or films.
Another alto/contralto here! How low can you sing. My lowest good note is a C3. I'm so sick and tired of all the people celebrating the very high notes (I have no chance at all to hit), I started to evolve my low notes, even if nobody notice it is difficult too. So I can expand my vocal range on the other end and have the possibility to sing the tenor songs, without any strain, even if it sound somekind of weird an wrong (it's still a female voice). Because there are nearly no good songs for contraltos in musicals or films.
@mijalheinrich4331 My range is from about F3 to E5, but I'm in my 60s now and don't have time to practice. I know I can go lower, but I really haven't done that too often. There is a place,"musicnotes" that you will find helpful. It has all types of music and you can change keys and see the range. Cher is a great alto to listen to.
@@mijalheinrich4331 YESSS!!! I can hit a G2 comfortably without these tricks - so going into this video, I am STOKED to keep expanding my range down!! 😁 Exactly like you said, we get it - singing high is impressive. But I've been playing in the whistle tone range since I was in about 2nd grade. Singing *low* however? I didn't figure out until I turned 30!! Not to mention - how many female vocalists do you know who can sing the low registers? Not *nearly* as many as can figure out the high notes. 😁
It's like an earthquake. XD Literally. XD I can do everything else but the growl. I guess I have a good excuse for not being able to go that far, because I'm a female and I don't really want to go THAT low. I'm really proud of myself for getting this low though. Thanks Geoff! :)
His normal voice blows my mind. Forget lower. Now I have lost any ambition of being able to sing with bass. All the bass in the world is with this guy. None is left for me
hahah, yeh he's said it's one of his pet peeves when people say literally when it's not literally, so he actually had to correct himself for doing it 🤣🤣
My father-in-law uses the "growl" to put babies to sleep. Its basically magic, he can take any crying baby, hold them to his chest and do the "growl" and they just put their head down on his shoulder and quietly fall asleep. Best party trick ever.
@@KorZen10 It really depends on the singer, some really scream and have such a low voice that it sounds like a growl (Glenn Benton), some actualy simply scream just soft enough to not hurt their throat (Tom Araya, Chuck Billy when he does extreme vocals etc.). There are so many ways to do metal vocals... Some (mostly modern metal) just use a tiny vocal fry and that sounds always the same and it's pretty terrible imho. There are also the reverse growl piggy grindcore lads 😄 (low volume too) So many different styles.
@@KorZen10 Bro the first technique he demonstrated was literally false chord activation which is the basis for one of the two most common types of metal screams. This is also what is used in Tuvan throat singing. You're so confident and for no reason lmao
What he means is that growls do hurt in the beginning and they really do, but if you continue to do it while your Throat hurts, you can seriously really fuck up your vocal chords, And what we was saying with this was to not rush it, practising stuff like this takes time, so if your throat starts to really hurt, "take a break and try again later"
I first watched this video like 3-4 days ago, and I’ve hit multiple new low notes since then. I also grew a beard, highly recommend. It does 90% of the work for you.
@@christianhenry4173 yes, but also avi has been known to blow out speakers and he uses overtone, which i dont believe either him or tim can do. So all three are talented
Agni Das in what way? He seems to know what he’s talking about. He’s not an expert, but he doesn’t claim to be, and the points he does know he explains about as clearly as Geoff does here.
@@agnidas5816 I would not say he’s a hack. He’s a very clear lyric baritone that taught himself to sing lower through shear willpower and throwing stuff at a wall. He honestly is the best subharmonic singer in the world (not that big of a selection lol).
I honestly have no clue scientifically how much ones speaking voice correlates to their singing. I'm only a 15 yr old learning bass and i speak right in between the 2st and 3rd octave which would make me more speak in an average baritone even though I know for a fact I'm a bass singer. I guess I can't say much about it until I grow much older since everyone's voice is always maturing, especially basses. But yeah, i don't know how much one's speaking voice correlates to their part. Probably has a lot to do with age
I’m a 17 year old bass baritone and I speak between G2-E2 sometimes too - my earliest recollection of my vocal range was D2-A3 and now I’m topping at A4 in full voice and I’m put in the choir’s tenor section because I can, largely thanks to mixed voice. I know a tenor only a year ahead of me who can hit C2s (and he is definitely a tenor, he’s just practiced his lows a lot and he also likes getting into vocal fry too) too. Vocal types are really broad so it’s all about your speaking voice and your natural timbre.
@@themriron2391 Same here, I talk between a E2 and G2, my lowest It's a D2, in a good day a C2, and my highest (in chest) is a G4 (I'm not saying I can belt that high everytime, normally is an E4 ), I'm 16.
I have sang bass in choir for my 76 years and never knew there was a way to develop low singing. I always thought it was the voice God gave you and did not not know you could develop or improve it. I throughly enjoy your singing. You have been given a great talent and improved on it. Keep up the good work.
God built you a great foundation, it`s up to you to build a great house and you will deserve and get the credit for your honest effort. Peace and brother love to you and all.
I've never met an artist of any kind that gives themselves the credit they deserve. That's what makes a successful artist. They're always trying to get better at their art.
it took me 2 weeks to hit c1 with nice clear tone... we are just built differently bro. insted its been a 3 years struggle for me to hit higher notes, some progress, yes.. But i just cant go high and it dosnt matter how mutch i want it. i mean my headvoice starts at b2.. Yes im in headvoice, B2! and its F#####in impossble to hit c4 without going into falsetto.... yes, c1 sounds frikking awesome to hit, and how it resonance.. feels pritty damn good. yes. But thats also pritty mutch it.. a few awsome notes thats almost never really used.... Guess how many songs i can sing with a range from e2 and c4, maybe d4.... its like 10 songs.. i wish i could be a barritone or any other range for that matter. Yes, obviously some lower bass singer hits barritone easily. But trust me, Geoff range, and his vocal skill. Its like comparing a 100m olympic runner with a amature highschool 100m runner that is best in his school. few people can do what he can do. few! in my experience, if your talking voice isnt around f2 b2, ish. +- 3 tones.. something like that... its deffinatly not impossible, ive heard a guy with a very high speaking voice and i guess is like treble, maybe even tenor. but he hits c1d1e1f1 even subhormnic perfectly.. soo, who am i to say what can or cant be done... but if you tried for 2 years, then either there is something wrong with how you practice, idk. then something can be done. othertwise. maybe you should practice to hit notes thats more comfortable for you insted? just saying. i will never say to anyone, "you cant", all im saying, 2 years bro.. 2 years.. maybe its time to change strategy?
@@saxrendell que? flat e1, more impressive? how? no, bruh.. just. no.. like huh`? are you serious? flat e1?`more impressive then e1on pitch? a nice clear note? bruh. no. nononononononononono.
@@phillpauley6672thats the trick.. or, i would rather say, that the key for sucess, dosnt matter in what field. everyone who is successfull has the same personal trait in them. wich is as simple as they want it more then anyone else... nothing else matter as mutch.. sure natural gifted, good suport and all that is very important. but at end of the day. the one who wants it the most will end up on top. its just a matter of time. its actually at the same time, sad. becuse to achive something great also demands a little bit crazy.. success always comes with a huge price. you have to give up to achive, and for someone to pay that price for a maybe in ten years i could be that 1% that actually makes it.. yes, its a obsession. yes its mental.. yes yes yes..
It will dry your chords, both vocal and false, it you put the fry in the wrong part of your throat, so aim to make the sounds above your chords and use the throat shape to create the harmonics and resonance. And have good by breath support, as if you were preparing to belt. When you first find where to make the sound and how you are not using your main vocal chords, it is surprising as hell 😄
Me, after Geoff first showing the growl technique: “wow, that’s really low!” Geoff: “once you get on mic and you cue the air out of it” Geoff: “ *_seismic demon sound_* ”
I'm so glad I found you. As a female with a natural deep voice since I was a child it's not expected of me to sound so low and most tutorials are to sing high notes. I'll be practicing. I also would love to throat sing. Thank you from the Scottish Highlands 😎🤘
I am a voice coach and I am a tenor. I have a student who is a bass singer and this video has been amazingly helpful and beneficial. Truly. His range is reaching new lows that he didn't know was possible. Thanks.
@@ДенисПетров-т4ю We had a guy in our church choir singing tenor for like years and some time ago he switched to bass. It was pretty bad in the beginning, of course, but he really improved in the span of like two hours. I definitely thought of him as just a tenor. Could be that some people just have a larger vocal scale by default, but I'm pretty sure it's about training. I am a baritone, so I've naturally had to train my voice to go all kinds of places (because of lack of songs I can comfortably sing in the proper key) and my vocal range has improved a LOT, be it bass or tenor. Please do share your opinion on the issue (you can write in Russian, I can read it).
I have a really low voice. Almost never find a bass as low as I am. Your voice is not human, man. I'm tying to follow your tips. I'm impressed of your videos. Regards from Spain (sorry for my english).
I like how he prefaces some of the points by saying "you're gonna suck." Stuff like that genuinely keeps my expectations realistic and makes me respect the teacher.
Thank you so much for these tips as they are concise and practical, I can now pitch down from falsetto to my lowest register in the same sustain. You are truly a rare talent and inspiration to the rest of us.
You forget that is pre-recorded with multiple takes most likely and definitely been through some software. This is coming from my own experience on the same stuff.
I am a bass that can sing tenor 2, bass 1, and bass 2. Unbeknownst to me I have already been doing everything here. But despite that, this helped so much. It made my voice clearer, and focusing on the vocal fry helped me with subharmonic notes. I hope to one day sing as low as you geoff
He sounds like he's always singing, even when he's simply talking. It's simply amazing to me! And the fact that he's STILL learning, after already knowing so much pushes me to keep learning myself. You're amazing! Thank you for sharing!
4:53 It's called Tartini Tones. If you combine two pitches at the same time, e.g. 200Hz (base note) + 300Hz (5th), it results in an "auditory illusion": You will HEAR a 100Hz pitch (base note one octave lower), but you can't actually find it in spectral analysis. On a tenor saxophone, for example, the lowest note you can finger is "concert Ab2" - but you can simultaneosly hum a perfect 5th into the horn to produce pitches as low as "concert Ab1". Pretty advanced technique that even most pros haven't heard about, tho.
@@EthanMehta I learned it as an “inverted power chord”. One way to think about when playing, imagine you were to play the root-5th-octave chord, but then leave the root out. It actually sounds kinda as if the root was there. So if you want to play a power chord you can’t because the root is too low, you can do this trick by leaving the root out and playing the octave instead. Most famous example using these chords is Smoke on the Water. Most common example using them to sound lower than possible I think is Blind by Korn (and it sounds super low, they do it on the 2 lowest open strings of a 7-string). I like to use this to play some songs that normally require D tuning for some power chords, then I don’t need to tone down from E. I think it still works somewhat on an acoustic, but the effect is much bigger with distortion. I also think it’s more noticeable at lower frequencies. I’m not sure why. And it might work with other “chords” too, not sure.
Wow... this is SO fascinating. When you explained the growl with clearing your throat I started to pick that up almost immediately... and I was surprised by the relative ease I had with it... until I started realizing that maybe that's because I have a bad habit of clearing my throat often (especially before bed but usually with plenty of water at hand to soothe over). So I am kind of used to it 😅 but still I would have never thought to hear that in music.
If you'd like to know the physics behind why the subharmonics work: the pitch you want, say a G1, will have the same frequency as the intersection of its fifth, a D2, and its octave, a G2. When you relax your voice in that very specific way you allow your false cords(the ones used for fry) to resonate at the fifth while you simultaneously use your primary cords(the ones for the majority of singing and speaking) to produce the octave. A similar effect can be achieved with two separate instruments playing at the same interval. It's all just in the nature of the sound waves.
Yes essentially. Here’s some more explanation I wrote a while back with a bit of maths. Every time you go up an octave, the frequency of the note is doubled (eg. A4 = 440hz, A5 = 880hz, A2 = 110hz etc). Let’s take the note A2 (110hz). Let’s use A2 as the fundamental to produce an A1. A perfect fifth above A2 is E3 (roughly 164.814hz). We know the vocal cords during subharmonics vibrate in a 3:2 ratio. The ratio between a tonic note and a perfect fifth is about a 3:2 ratio (give or take). So the ratio of E3:A2 is 3:2 (110hz = 2, so 55 = 1, therefore 3 = 3 x 55 which is 165, so E3 = 165 (roughly). This means when doing subharmonics, your vocal cords vibrate to relax at a 3:2 ratio, meaning they’re basically vibrating a perfect 5th apart. I would assume this also means you can also hear a bit of an E3 in the the subharmonics while you’re doing this. As for why singing in a perfect 5th produces an octave undertone? I don’t know. I’d assume it’s because the vocal cords are physically in contact with each other for less time as they’re vibrating at different speeds, so I would assume the fact that they are in contact with each other less frequently, let’s say they’re only in contact with each only 55 times a second (55hz = A1) instead of the usual 110 times a second like a normal A2 is (110hz), produces that octave drop below the fundamental.
@@matthewdockray9745 The short behind why is sounds as the undertone is, as far as I understand, because our human ears are not terribly smart. Every note produces overtones in its harmonic series. So if you get a big, bass-y A1(Thanks Geoff) that note is actually sounding as an A1, 110Hz, and then decreasingly loud like an A2-220Hz, E3-330Hz, A4-440Hz, etc. Because of this natural phenomena, the brain is already accustomed to hearing the harmonic series when a note is truly produced so hearing that same series the brain helps to make it sound a bit more normal by filling in some gaps.
Minor detail you missed, it's actually your normal cords doing this, left chord and right chord... The frequencies have a triplet pattern, and our ears only really hear whenever both chords hit at the same time.
@@leopirdas6577, how could your true vocal cords produce two notes at the same time? I always hear people say that your singing two notes at the same time, to me it seems more like the vocal cords are only actually making contact half the number of times that they're supposed to and that's why the note is an octave lower. And then your brain for some reason fills in the original note so you end up hearing two notes when in reality you're just singing one Would you agree?
@@chrismartinez144 partly. It's like this, your right chord vibrates 220 times a second, the left goes 330 times a second, but they only hit 110 times a second, so we hear the 110 hz. However, that note doesn't technically exist (it won't really show up on those pitch graph thingy ma dolly whoopers). That make sense? My whole argument is that it's only your normal vocal folds vibrating, your false folds aren't vibrating in *this* subharmonic technique. Your false folds are engaged whenever you're doing kagyraa or throat singing/throat bass
This man could get me to buy literally *any* audiobook, just by being the one to narrate it. Idc if it's Twilight, the Bible, or the infamous 'My Immortal', I will buy it solely because *damn* that voice is soothing.
You know, people have always been telling me I could be a bass, but I never believed it. Then I see your videos and realize, while I have the advantage of a lower voice, getting where I want is training, and patience. Thank you for the motivation to do work towards something I've only ever considered a fantasy. Your songs are just absolutely amazing.
It's not that hard but all its about is control and training. Like I can hit rly low notes but I don't control them. But someday ... oh yeah they will work as I want ;)
Being female doesn't prevent from learning subharmonics. This tutorial is a great help for me, it introduced me to certain aspects of my voice that I wasn't aware of and I never learnt in my coaching lessons. I managed to produce my first subhamonic notes and they're insanely low for me as a woman (used to be a high soprano, but remain to be an alto after 3x Covid). And, using vocal fry, I can quite hit low bass notes just as Geoff does, instable and with little variety but nevertheless. It's incredible.
My voice is also a mile away from this stuff, but it is so interesting, and the growl thing worked so perfectly! I dunno where I would EVER use it my higher pitches though. haha
The speakers on my phone couldn't produce the growl at 2:53. I literally only heard a little bit of air moving. I had to switch to my headphones to even hear it. Insane.
Geoff, I've been a bass my whole life of singing (from about age 13 to now, some 58 years). I caught your performance of "Big John" on TH-cam and I loved it! So much so that I posted it on Facebook (people who know me will not be surprised). I remember this song when it was released and I was a young fellow, just starting to sing. Jimmy Dean, who released this in 1961, and also Tennessee Ernie Ford, doing Sixteen Tons, with an earlier release. These songs, and songs like them, helped inspire me to not only sing, but to sing Bass. Your arrangment was really good, too. As a composer and arranger, I understand the kind of time, dedication, and talent it takes to do this. People don't seem to understand how much the arrangment of a song truly impacts the song's efficacy. I went on to teach music at public schools and also teach privately. All these years I have been singing bass in various groups (and still do today). In all that time, I have almost always been "the" low bass singer in the group. So it is fascinating to view your instruction on this recording. You are spot on. I like how you highlighted relaxation, the "growl", "vocal fry" and working to smooth out the break in your voice. These are quite important. Some other important things I have learned about singing low over the years, which I am sure you know, but for the benefit of readers, are: a low voice must be nurtured. Some things to help achieve this are 1. Don't talk in your higher voice, but in your lower natural range in a relaxed manner. 2. When warming up to sing, don't just work the high range. Doing this just moves your tessitura (range) up. So warm up specifically doing vocal exercises low and high, so your range develops in both directions. 3. When harmonizing to music (such as CDs, what's online, XM, the radio, etc.), work on your lower range, singing the bass part or low harmonies. 4. Singing in the morning, or even exercising this range when it's early in the day, and the voice is naturally lower, helps to sustain that range as the day goes on. Pretty basic stuff, but good to reinforce for others who are interested in this. You are very talented and it's a blessing for you to share this with the rest of us. Keep it coming and THANKS!
Huh, this is very interesting. If your tessitura has moved up, is it possible to extend the lower bound to where it once was or even further? I am afraid I might have gotten "stuck up high", if you will.
And 5. when you went with your singing group to a party, greed the chef with the lowest "morning" that you ever produced( takes also 4-6 beer at the day before) ;D
As a bass singer, this is the most comprehensive bass singing lesson I’ve seen on TH-cam. I’ve been singing bass for years and I feel I’ve leveled up by 100,000 exp in 7 minutes. From all the bass singers on here, thank you Geoff. You’re a monster and a gentleman.
Saw this vid a few months back, did a lot of the things you said, and now am able to comfortably and reliably hit Ab1. Thanks man. Also, my pets think I’m insane now
I have it but normally i use higher notes to speak, but when it comes to imitate Elvis Presley or Leonard Cohen it becomes rly funny. But i want to hit a lot lower notes, but i have no place to train this :(
I speak also with deep voice as normal, but i love to switch my tones and notes while speaking so i can speak higher but my base voice note is much lower ;)
haha jokes on all of you i have both a deep ass voice and really long hair, and apparently i just tested i can naturally drop the register into subharmonics
For anyone who was wondering, the subharmonic technique works like this: sound is made up of vibrations, slower vibrations make lower noises. When he is using the vocal fry, the hum is a slower vibration, making the note deeper. Hope this was helpful!
@Alexandria Hauser Wow that's nice of you. But did you know why I was getting it? Because a vision softly creeping, came to me while I was sleeping for 5 minutes.
Apparently I've been doing the growl for a while. I did it when I impersonated smaug as a little kid. It's gotten deeper, and it still uses a lot of air, but it's a fun party trick for the super deep notes
For me, it was Smeagol imitations that opened up my voice range. Smeagol has a high and reedy nasal voice for casual talking, which drops down to a low, raspy, barking voice when he's annoyed or surprised. Oscillating between an innocent and airy voice to a violent and explosive voice was how I practiced. Essentially, I'd do the whole "my precious" bit, but my spin was to include the sudden angry "gollum cough" afterwards to startle people -- and at first, that's literally what I was doing, clearing my throat to produce that *gollum* sound, and then extending it into speech... ... which ironically is kinda what Geoff is talking about at 1:45ish in. Edit: Also, can't go wrong with emulating the "Cave of Wonders" tiger from Aladdin. th-cam.com/video/dARFQmEEg8Q/w-d-xo.html *Who disturbs my slumber?*
lol you can still learn these, maybe growl might not be as effective for you, you might just sound like a baby dragon trying to learn how to spit fire. you can try sub-harmonics tho, going an entire octave below your chest voice is huge but it takes a lot of practice.
You can totally do this as a girl!! Ella Fitzgerald (kinda) does the subharmonics in her long solo on ‘How High the Moon’ (near the end). It just sounds different and not as low as this video, but it is possible and adds an octave to your range :)!
i'm actually trying it myself aswel(26 female) i have litteraly no idea how to do it. I don't know how to relax my voice. And i can go already very low for a girl but i would love to go even lower with my voice (used to smoke a lot witch helps but a very very bad habbit)
My natural voice is only a little higher than yours so ever since I caught your sixteen tons cover I have been obsessed with trying to hit those notes, these tips definitely helped me get close, just less clean by far. Love your stuff.
I’ve been doing the exact same thing since I heard Sixteen Tons as well! I have a pretty deep voice naturally (I can hit about an E above low C without growling) and I’ve just practiced the growl a ton trying to hit those notes! I think my family’s a little sick of the song now… oops
After about 5 mins of growling like an idiot and making people think I am dealing with demons, I can hit all notes in Sixteen Tons but they aren't clear nor GRAINY. It's really flat. I don't think this counts as an achievement. WOuld like to get your thoughts on this
Yeah that's my problem as well. Technically hitting the notes is not hard, the problem is to make it anything more than a frog sound. My vocal fry is just that, pure fry and like 0 harmonics that actually sound like a nice singing voice. Also I can only do it in a mic, anything loud enough for accapella and I immediately loose it.
Thanks SO much for this. I've always played a lot with those kind of weird sounds throughout my life. And also really liked bass singing, although my natural voice starts losing a lot of power and clarity below G2. Now I suddenly am able to touch an octave lower using this! Will need some training to be more accurate and stable, but super excited about the possibilites. Will definitely subscribe to your channel and sweep through all of it.
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"Apparently moving your hands helps too" I've been growling since I was younger than I can remember, but moving my hands helps. I have no idea how I figured out I could growl. But within the past year, I've started to actually be able to sing with it. I didnt know anyone else could even do it but me until I found Tim Foust. Very cool!
All my brothers and me can do it. We found it out by doing monster voices and whatnot, tbh I thought it was really natural for people to do it. My lowest is a D1
Thank you so much Geoff! I've been using this "tutorial" to expand my bass voice as well. I have been practicing for about 6 months now and I've gotten pretty good at it. I came back to this video to check my progress and I can do most of it except the "growl". I can finally hit the bottom of the scale that you sang at the beginning of the video.
Bro I’m a baritone in a middle school choir (8th grade). There are only 3 of us guys who’s voices have dropped. I’ve always envied those who had epic high pitched voices, because I used to have a beautiful high voice. Now the more and more I mature the more I can accept it, and I’m learning to appreciate my voice the more matured it gets
Hey man, I’m a bass II in a high school choir and the best advice I’ve ever been given was own it! Deep voices are just as unique as high voices! Sing out and be proud!
Many guys say, "I can't sing" because they compare their voices to the voices of pop singers, who are tenors. But choirs are starving for bass singers.
@@hellomate639 thanks bro, I’ve grown a lot since I posted this last year and I’m a full bass now, I’m high school and preforming with my towns symphony.
I find this quite inspiring. Your speaking voice sounds like mine, and I always thought that singing was not really something I could ever become good at, because everything was out of my range. It's great to see you turning a particularity into an asset like this.
Honestly there's a better way to learn it. There's a different way but it's from the beatbox community. We call it "throat bass" and there's plenty of variations, such as vibration bass. The basses can warp, such as evil bass, alien bass and such, but they won't be what you're looking for if you want to do bass singing
The most helpful part of this ironically was how to connect my head voice to my chest voice through vocal fry, and it works better than any other practice or technique to learn how to do that. So thanks Geoff!!! (Huge fan btw)
I decided to try it even though I'm a woman, I obviously can't go as low as you can, but practicing these techniques actually have helped expand my range a few notes further down without straining my voice!!
Okay so I'm constantly singing up there with like Ariana, underwood, and Adele and that last technique he showed helped me get crazy lower than I ever could just after watching it once. I'm definitely gonna be practicing that quite often. This man has given the key to have a sick range. Thanks man
What a genuine and generous person to share his experience and knowledge this way! My holy grail for music self indulgence is to some day hear Geoff, Tim Foust and Avi Kaplin sing a trio, maybe a re-interpretation of the hall of the mountain king or to revisit the Tolkein Mountains Deep song....can you imagine!
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*Sings really deep
That was neat. How did you do that?
*Speaks with the deepest voice I have ever heard.
Maybe that explains a thing or two..
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@@artlover5060 well he has the advantage of having asid reflux fucking up his voice.
@@Equitine Yeah that too...
@@Equitine I mean it’s cool and all to have a deep voice but I wouldn’t call have GERD an advantage...
@@jonathanpenyak700 got a point there lmao.
"Girls talk in a higher pitch around guys they're interested in!"
Girls talking to me:
Highly underrated comment my friend
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Me talking to anyone:
Bruh Moment 😂😂😂
This sounds like the voice you would imagine a centuries old oak tree would use if trees could talk
"Is takes a long time to say anything in old entish and we ents never say anything unless it is worth taking the time to say"
@@shelbyjackson6903 oh i see a man of culture ;)
@@Malec_b yes indeed, I see you're of the cultured variety as well
That explains the timbre of his voice!
Lol, good one
I'm a female alto but hearing your voice, I found out that I can sing lower than my teacher thought I could. Your techniques are really cool! Thank you!
Another alto/contralto here! How low can you sing. My lowest good note is a C3. I'm so sick and tired of all the people celebrating the very high notes (I have no chance at all to hit), I started to evolve my low notes, even if nobody notice it is difficult too. So I can expand my vocal range on the other end and have the possibility to sing the tenor songs, without any strain, even if it sound somekind of weird an wrong (it's still a female voice). Because there are nearly no good songs for contraltos in musicals or films.
Another alto/contralto here! How low can you sing. My lowest good note is a C3. I'm so sick and tired of all the people celebrating the very high notes (I have no chance at all to hit), I started to evolve my low notes, even if nobody notice it is difficult too. So I can expand my vocal range on the other end and have the possibility to sing the tenor songs, without any strain, even if it sound somekind of weird an wrong (it's still a female voice). Because there are nearly no good songs for contraltos in musicals or films.
@mijalheinrich4331 My range is from about F3 to E5, but I'm in my 60s now and don't have time to practice. I know I can go lower, but I really haven't done that too often. There is a place,"musicnotes" that you will find helpful. It has all types of music and you can change keys and see the range. Cher is a great alto to listen to.
@@mijalheinrich4331 YESSS!!! I can hit a G2 comfortably without these tricks - so going into this video, I am STOKED to keep expanding my range down!! 😁
Exactly like you said, we get it - singing high is impressive. But I've been playing in the whistle tone range since I was in about 2nd grade. Singing *low* however? I didn't figure out until I turned 30!!
Not to mention - how many female vocalists do you know who can sing the low registers? Not *nearly* as many as can figure out the high notes. 😁
I found out I was a contra alto mostly thanks to Geoff overall
He's lying, it's all in the hair...the longer the hair = the lower your notes. That's why Geoff, Tim, and Avi have long hair.
lol
You’re on to something... Alright it’s decided I’m growing out my hair
Can't beat that logic.
What about Vince Neil? 😂
My hair is down to my ass. Everything suddenly makes sense.
“How to sing really really low.”
Geoff: Literally just speak
Lol
Yup lol
"How to sing really REALLY low"
Geoff: *walks on stage* "Just fucking do it." *leaves*
😆😂😂
I'm baritone I don't think I can do what he does it all.
Geoff: **Says to clear throat**
**Whole Earth vibrates**
Big johnson shakd
It's like an earthquake. XD Literally. XD I can do everything else but the growl. I guess I have a good excuse for not being able to go that far, because I'm a female and I don't really want to go THAT low. I'm really proud of myself for getting this low though. Thanks Geoff! :)
I dropped my headset and now it vibrates on really low bass sounds, every single word that came out of his mouth shook my skull.
This is throat singing. They do it in Mongolia, Tuva, and Tibet.
@@PuzzledMonkey I will automatically assume there is a slight language barrier and misinterpretation of the original comments context.
"How do sing really low?"
Says the guy who sounds like landslide, calmly.
😂😂😂😭
Do you guys wanna be able to sing low?
Jeff: yes
Geoff: *yeos*
I actually laughed at this haha.
HAHAHAHAHA
this one made me lol
@@allistercrow2405 yeah, me too! How to sing low? Answer, have a low voice lol 😁
На-на! :))))) It's so hilarious!!!!
His normal voice blows my mind. Forget lower. Now I have lost any ambition of being able to sing with bass. All the bass in the world is with this guy. None is left for me
Check out Venus Theory. His talking voice is quite mind-blowing, too.
@@vidarhjal JD sumner, no more
Fuck ! I wish I had a manly voice like his
Phil Anselmo also has a voice that can be measured by a seismograph.
@@vidarhjal I think I got some. My voice is still getting lower and I can sing a D2
His normal voice is a pure ASMR experience. I could listen to his voice all day.
U gay man.
It's very soothing
He does audiobooks
@@Solitude11-11 he does what?!?! which ones????? *goes to dig through audible*
@@thpwrbttn5454 Lol, on his channel
Love the "*Figuratively" flash when he said "literally"!!! Excellent!
hahah, yeh he's said it's one of his pet peeves when people say literally when it's not literally, so he actually had to correct himself for doing it 🤣🤣
@@huldradraco well Geoff and I share that pet peeve!
Yes!
@@stephenconroy3603 Amen
My father-in-law uses the "growl" to put babies to sleep. Its basically magic, he can take any crying baby, hold them to his chest and do the "growl" and they just put their head down on his shoulder and quietly fall asleep. Best party trick ever.
I want to be able to do that cuz it sounds cool
@@Ibrahim.l20 it ruins your vocal cords, don't
@@wyattwilliams2457 worth it
@@Ibrahim.l20 P.S. It doesn't ruin your vocal chords. 😉
@@wyattwilliams2457 if you do it right and with moderation, it doesn't
You just explained metal screaming a lot better than most people have on this platform.
@@KorZen10 hate to break it to you but I’m a metal vocalist and these are the bases for learning how to scream and preparing for a scream
@@KorZen10 bro 💀
@@KorZen10 It really depends on the singer, some really scream and have such a low voice that it sounds like a growl (Glenn Benton), some actualy simply scream just soft enough to not hurt their throat (Tom Araya, Chuck Billy when he does extreme vocals etc.). There are so many ways to do metal vocals... Some (mostly modern metal) just use a tiny vocal fry and that sounds always the same and it's pretty terrible imho. There are also the reverse growl piggy grindcore lads 😄 (low volume too) So many different styles.
I am not good at breath retention when I exhale growl but I can inhale scream and growl really well. 🤘🏼😎
@@KorZen10 Bro the first technique he demonstrated was literally false chord activation which is the basis for one of the two most common types of metal screams. This is also what is used in Tuvan throat singing. You're so confident and for no reason lmao
"If your voice starts to hurt, stop" "there's no way around it, the first 500 times it's gonna hurt like hell"
Very underrated comment my friend 😂
Seems like the type of thing that needs to be practiced once a day, every (or maybe every other) day.
What he means is that growls do hurt in the beginning and they really do, but if you continue to do it while your Throat hurts, you can seriously really fuck up your vocal chords, And what we was saying with this was to not rush it, practising stuff like this takes time, so if your throat starts to really hurt, "take a break and try again later"
Bruv i tried growling 3 times and im coughing my toes out rn
@@MrClaeb-lf7mp coughing my toes out 😂😂😂😂😂
I first watched this video like 3-4 days ago, and I’ve hit multiple new low notes since then.
I also grew a beard, highly recommend. It does 90% of the work for you.
is bro singing viking songs now
@@FlanLeche Sub and hit that bell, I’m cooking pretty soon 👀
@@FlanLeche I may or may not be cooking something up. Sub and find out 🤣
You and Tim are the best bass because y’all compliment each other
word
Plus Avi
Melvin Franklin, and Tim Storms can go deeper than Avi.
@@christianhenry4173 yes, but also avi has been known to blow out speakers and he uses overtone, which i dont believe either him or tim can do. So all three are talented
christian henry omg Tim storms is a legend he’s literally has the deepest voice in the world. Avi doesn’t have to much of a range.
How to sing really low
starts speaking
oh. okay. LOL
Max Cormier that’s what I was thinking.
Exactly 😆
same
Lol I scrolled down to the comments as soon as he started speaking
Like...wtf? 😅😂
My jaw literally d r o p p e d - no one has ever explained and demonstrated sub-harmonic technique so clearly, holy crap
Connor Bruley David Larson goes very into detail, you should check him out if you haven’t already
@@colefountain1030 he's a hack ...
Agni Das in what way? He seems to know what he’s talking about. He’s not an expert, but he doesn’t claim to be, and the points he does know he explains about as clearly as Geoff does here.
@@agnidas5816 I would not say he’s a hack. He’s a very clear lyric baritone that taught himself to sing lower through shear willpower and throwing stuff at a wall. He honestly is the best subharmonic singer in the world (not that big of a selection lol).
Besides valuing the info given, my "like" was for the honest, humble style in which Geoff presented the techniques.
His normal talking voice is like an octave and a half below mine, so I'm already off to a bad start.
Can I get an Amen?
I honestly have no clue scientifically how much ones speaking voice correlates to their singing. I'm only a 15 yr old learning bass and i speak right in between the 2st and 3rd octave which would make me more speak in an average baritone even though I know for a fact I'm a bass singer. I guess I can't say much about it until I grow much older since everyone's voice is always maturing, especially basses. But yeah, i don't know how much one's speaking voice correlates to their part. Probably has a lot to do with age
@@raphaelkelly861 I speak around an g2 and I'm a baritone
I’m a 17 year old bass baritone and I speak between G2-E2 sometimes too - my earliest recollection of my vocal range was D2-A3 and now I’m topping at A4 in full voice and I’m put in the choir’s tenor section because I can, largely thanks to mixed voice. I know a tenor only a year ahead of me who can hit C2s (and he is definitely a tenor, he’s just practiced his lows a lot and he also likes getting into vocal fry too) too.
Vocal types are really broad so it’s all about your speaking voice and your natural timbre.
@@themriron2391 Same here, I talk between a E2 and G2, my lowest It's a D2, in a good day a C2, and my highest (in chest) is a G4 (I'm not saying I can belt that high everytime, normally is an E4 ), I'm 16.
"it's gonna hurt like hell"
"if it hurts, take a break"
hmm
you only do it for a few seconds each time then wait to do it again ,rinse and repeat until success
So to summarise, take a break
I am gonna be honest I didn't listen now my throat hurts like hell
i took a break, grew up and now i can do it, thanks
@@xescdelarosa3328 I think when he says "take a break" he means like, 30 mins or something LOL
Avi: (long hair)
Tim: (long hair)
Geoff: (long hair)
How to sing in a low voice: (grow long hair)
Lowest note is around a G1, and I have hair down to mid-back. Can confirm!
I said it somewhere else, but:
**cries in austin brown**
Matt? He doesn't have long hair
When Girls have also Long Hair: Is this a Joke?
Seriously.. I want my Voice to be Low but nope
Im sensing a Smason and Delilah story going on
I have sang bass in choir for my 76 years and never knew there was a way to develop low singing. I always thought it was the voice God gave you and did not not know you could develop or improve it. I throughly enjoy your singing. You have been given a great talent and improved on it. Keep up the good work.
God built you a great foundation, it`s up to you to build a great house and you will deserve and get the credit for your honest effort. Peace and brother love to you and all.
The growl is literally one of the steps for Mongolian throat singing
I’ve heard true Mongolian throat singing and that sounds painful! 😱
@@stevewells5493 it's actually not, it's like any muscle or tendon - strengthening and stretching
There's a throat singing asian rock band that's pretty great called The Hu
@@joza5623 Hello there! Fellow Hu-fan!
@@Real_Petty SUGAAN ESSENAAAAA
*does it perfectly*
“I’ve been doing this for two years, I’m terrible at it.”
*does it perfectly again*
Geoff, you don’t give yourself enough credit
he didnt do the E1 perfectly, it came out flat which if anything is actually even more impressive
I've never met an artist of any kind that gives themselves the credit they deserve. That's what makes a successful artist. They're always trying to get better at their art.
it took me 2 weeks to hit c1 with nice clear tone... we are just built differently bro. insted its been a 3 years struggle for me to hit higher notes, some progress, yes.. But i just cant go high and it dosnt matter how mutch i want it. i mean my headvoice starts at b2.. Yes im in headvoice, B2! and its F#####in impossble to hit c4 without going into falsetto.... yes, c1 sounds frikking awesome to hit, and how it resonance.. feels pritty damn good. yes. But thats also pritty mutch it.. a few awsome notes thats almost never really used.... Guess how many songs i can sing with a range from e2 and c4, maybe d4.... its like 10 songs.. i wish i could be a barritone or any other range for that matter. Yes, obviously some lower bass singer hits barritone easily. But trust me, Geoff range, and his vocal skill. Its like comparing a 100m olympic runner with a amature highschool 100m runner that is best in his school. few people can do what he can do. few! in my experience, if your talking voice isnt around f2 b2, ish. +- 3 tones.. something like that... its deffinatly not impossible, ive heard a guy with a very high speaking voice and i guess is like treble, maybe even tenor. but he hits c1d1e1f1 even subhormnic perfectly.. soo, who am i to say what can or cant be done... but if you tried for 2 years, then either there is something wrong with how you practice, idk. then something can be done. othertwise. maybe you should practice to hit notes thats more comfortable for you insted? just saying. i will never say to anyone, "you cant", all im saying, 2 years bro.. 2 years.. maybe its time to change strategy?
@@saxrendell que? flat e1, more impressive? how? no, bruh.. just. no.. like huh`? are you serious? flat e1?`more impressive then e1on pitch? a nice clear note? bruh. no. nononononononononono.
@@phillpauley6672thats the trick.. or, i would rather say, that the key for sucess, dosnt matter in what field. everyone who is successfull has the same personal trait in them. wich is as simple as they want it more then anyone else... nothing else matter as mutch.. sure natural gifted, good suport and all that is very important. but at end of the day. the one who wants it the most will end up on top. its just a matter of time. its actually at the same time, sad. becuse to achive something great also demands a little bit crazy.. success always comes with a huge price. you have to give up to achive, and for someone to pay that price for a maybe in ten years i could be that 1% that actually makes it.. yes, its a obsession. yes its mental.. yes yes yes..
Not gonna lie but, Tim is the king of Growls. But you're the king of Subharmonics
Yes, you're right! He's just too humble to admit he's the king of subharmonics!
@@joshuaoziegbe2227 yes, you're right too.
I personally think Avi kaplan is a better singer and geoff is a better bass and tim is idk growl notes prolly as you said
@@prestonfhahn all basses are beasties xd, because ins't usually had that voice
Tim - Growls
Geoff - Subharmonics
Avi - Overtones
I'm so not a singer, in any way, shape or form, but I am in constant amazement at how you are able to make your singing voice go so low!
0:36 - "How do you sing really low"
"Be born a bass"
this is made by natural low voice gang
Be hit by the 200 wheeler called puberty
I am not a fish....(just a joke)
*wise choice*
Not "just a bass" a true Basso Profundo. Amazing!
Geoff: “If it hurts, you should stop.”
Also Geoff: “It’s gonna hurt like hell the first 500 times you do it.”
😂😂😂
basically, at first, take lotsa breaks
If hurts you're doing it wrong.
It will dry your chords, both vocal and false, it you put the fry in the wrong part of your throat, so aim to make the sounds above your chords and use the throat shape to create the harmonics and resonance. And have good by breath support, as if you were preparing to belt. When you first find where to make the sound and how you are not using your main vocal chords, it is surprising as hell 😄
Me, after Geoff first showing the growl technique: “wow, that’s really low!”
Geoff: “once you get on mic and you cue the air out of it”
Geoff: “ *_seismic demon sound_* ”
My headphones literally rattled
Ok I saw your comment and was like, oh ok so like, a growl ya know. Like he demonstrated previously. But holy fUck
EQ the air out of it. Use an Equalizer on the mic line to eliminate high frequencies like moving air.
I'm so glad I found you. As a female with a natural deep voice since I was a child it's not expected of me to sound so low and most tutorials are to sing high notes. I'll be practicing. I also would love to throat sing. Thank you from the Scottish Highlands 😎🤘
2. Growl 0:57 1:43
3: Fry 3:00
4. Sub-Harmonics 3:48
your a godsend ty
@@jakedebagel4073 thank you.God bless you
Thank you, you amazing stranger!
What was 1?
@@thechh8297Just having a low voice already.
I am a voice coach and I am a tenor. I have a student who is a bass singer and this video has been amazingly helpful and beneficial. Truly. His range is reaching new lows that he didn't know was possible. Thanks.
Reaching new lows. That made me laugh. Thank you
One of the few times where reaching new lows are actually desirable
I personally think tenors and bass voices are a myth. With the right practice, you can do both
@@starshot5172 ahahaha 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
@@ДенисПетров-т4ю We had a guy in our church choir singing tenor for like years and some time ago he switched to bass. It was pretty bad in the beginning, of course, but he really improved in the span of like two hours. I definitely thought of him as just a tenor.
Could be that some people just have a larger vocal scale by default, but I'm pretty sure it's about training. I am a baritone, so I've naturally had to train my voice to go all kinds of places (because of lack of songs I can comfortably sing in the proper key) and my vocal range has improved a LOT, be it bass or tenor.
Please do share your opinion on the issue (you can write in Russian, I can read it).
"How to sing low"
Me, as a girl: Oh cool!
Geoff: *says one word*
Oh.
l0l
Yeah pretty much 😂
Stolen comment
Try inward bass singing
Im not a girl, but my voice is decently higher than his and I can get a very inconsistent and out of tune a1
I have a really low voice. Almost never find a bass as low as I am. Your voice is not human, man. I'm tying to follow your tips. I'm impressed of your videos. Regards from Spain (sorry for my english).
Everyone after this: sings metal
Me: *Far over, the misty mountains cold*
Lol same
Hahaha, both for me. 🤣
Yesssss
Two dungeons deep~ and caverns old~
@@GregAtlas We must away, 'ere break of day
Me as a soprano trying to do the growl technique is absolutely hilarious.
SAME...
You chicks better stay away from bass range register!
@@jessibaet5828 dude im just messing around. I know I can’t hit these notes.
@@lowkeybuckley 🤨
Post Vid of that. Your public would love to see it!
I like how he prefaces some of the points by saying "you're gonna suck." Stuff like that genuinely keeps my expectations realistic and makes me respect the teacher.
Thank you so much for these tips as they are concise and practical, I can now pitch down from falsetto to my lowest register in the same sustain. You are truly a rare talent and inspiration to the rest of us.
Why am I watching this? I'm a tenor.
Why am I saying that? I can't sing.
At least he knows.
What is the lowest note you can hit?
@@ThePlanemadness I don't know, an F2 maybe
@@blackfyre1351 pretty much same as me then. I have hit a d#2
@@ThePlanemadness I can hit lower notes but it's shakey as hell.
Sees title: “Oh, cool, this should be interesting!”
Geoff: Has a voice low enough to hi-five Satan
Me: 😐
You mean to "low five"? ;D
@@chasmkek no hi five, thats what makes it even more impressive XD
His voice is lower than my physics grades
....and I was 666th like 😅
His regular speaking voice is somwhere around the very lowest note i can hit with vocal cords..
Why am I watching this?... I'm a soprano 😂😂😂
hasdusudada
Now I kinda wanna hear you use subharmonics lol
Same 🤣
lol im soprano too but its fun to watch bass xdxd
So, welcome to the world of earthquakers.
Been struggling with this for years now I can express myself a lot more thank you ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Says he’s terrible at subharmonics, but... Oogie Boogie...
So true
lmao
He hits the same E1 from the Oogie Boogie song at 5:29
You forget that is pre-recorded with multiple takes most likely and definitely been through some software. This is coming from my own experience on the same stuff.
Omg yes😱😱
lord knows what a soprano is doing watching this but here i am
He's making an offer you couldn't refuse (I know that's Godfather but idk any other mafia jokes).
Lmao, same
I'm watching it jus to listen to him talk if I'm being honest
@@wilsonclaire3352 no. Hes jus got a nice voice. Lol
Fellow soprano, just enjoying getting my brains buzzed via my eardrums 😉
Geoff: *Gives us a detailed explanation of his methods of singing*
Geoff's Adam's Apple: ⬆️
⬇️
⬅️↙️➿↗️
his adams apple doin cheat codes (¬ ͜ʖ¬)
Hadouken?
@@derekeliopoulos2670 no
L OOOOOO L....
This comment 💀💀💀
I am a bass that can sing tenor 2, bass 1, and bass 2. Unbeknownst to me I have already been doing everything here. But despite that, this helped so much. It made my voice clearer, and focusing on the vocal fry helped me with subharmonic notes. I hope to one day sing as low as you geoff
He sounds like he's always singing, even when he's simply talking. It's simply amazing to me!
And the fact that he's STILL learning, after already knowing so much pushes me to keep learning myself. You're amazing! Thank you for sharing!
“My name is Geoff”
We found him
lmfao
4:53 It's called Tartini Tones. If you combine two pitches at the same time, e.g. 200Hz (base note) + 300Hz (5th), it results in an "auditory illusion": You will HEAR a 100Hz pitch (base note one octave lower), but you can't actually find it in spectral analysis.
On a tenor saxophone, for example, the lowest note you can finger is "concert Ab2" - but you can simultaneosly hum a perfect 5th into the horn to produce pitches as low as "concert Ab1". Pretty advanced technique that even most pros haven't heard about, tho.
Thanks dude!
Metal guitar does it all the time. I think distortion helps. Common technique to “play” below E without having to tune down.
@@RodrigoR9 How's it done? What's the technique called?
@@EthanMehta I learned it as an “inverted power chord”.
One way to think about when playing, imagine you were to play the root-5th-octave chord, but then leave the root out. It actually sounds kinda as if the root was there. So if you want to play a power chord you can’t because the root is too low, you can do this trick by leaving the root out and playing the octave instead.
Most famous example using these chords is Smoke on the Water. Most common example using them to sound lower than possible I think is Blind by Korn (and it sounds super low, they do it on the 2 lowest open strings of a 7-string).
I like to use this to play some songs that normally require D tuning for some power chords, then I don’t need to tone down from E.
I think it still works somewhat on an acoustic, but the effect is much bigger with distortion. I also think it’s more noticeable at lower frequencies. I’m not sure why. And it might work with other “chords” too, not sure.
tried this technique with a frequency analyzer and hit an A1
my lowest normal note is C2 lol
Wow... this is SO fascinating. When you explained the growl with clearing your throat I started to pick that up almost immediately... and I was surprised by the relative ease I had with it... until I started realizing that maybe that's because I have a bad habit of clearing my throat often (especially before bed but usually with plenty of water at hand to soothe over). So I am kind of used to it 😅 but still I would have never thought to hear that in music.
If you'd like to know the physics behind why the subharmonics work: the pitch you want, say a G1, will have the same frequency as the intersection of its fifth, a D2, and its octave, a G2. When you relax your voice in that very specific way you allow your false cords(the ones used for fry) to resonate at the fifth while you simultaneously use your primary cords(the ones for the majority of singing and speaking) to produce the octave.
A similar effect can be achieved with two separate instruments playing at the same interval. It's all just in the nature of the sound waves.
Yes essentially. Here’s some more explanation I wrote a while back with a bit of maths.
Every time you go up an octave, the frequency of the note is doubled (eg. A4 = 440hz, A5 = 880hz, A2 = 110hz etc). Let’s take the note A2 (110hz). Let’s use A2 as the fundamental to produce an A1. A perfect fifth above A2 is E3 (roughly 164.814hz). We know the vocal cords during subharmonics vibrate in a 3:2 ratio. The ratio between a tonic note and a perfect fifth is about a 3:2 ratio (give or take). So the ratio of E3:A2 is 3:2 (110hz = 2, so 55 = 1, therefore 3 = 3 x 55 which is 165, so E3 = 165 (roughly). This means when doing subharmonics, your vocal cords vibrate to relax at a 3:2 ratio, meaning they’re basically vibrating a perfect 5th apart. I would assume this also means you can also hear a bit of an E3 in the the subharmonics while you’re doing this. As for why singing in a perfect 5th produces an octave undertone? I don’t know. I’d assume it’s because the vocal cords are physically in contact with each other for less time as they’re vibrating at different speeds, so I would assume the fact that they are in contact with each other less frequently, let’s say they’re only in contact with each only 55 times a second (55hz = A1) instead of the usual 110 times a second like a normal A2 is (110hz), produces that octave drop below the fundamental.
@@matthewdockray9745 The short behind why is sounds as the undertone is, as far as I understand, because our human ears are not terribly smart. Every note produces overtones in its harmonic series. So if you get a big, bass-y A1(Thanks Geoff) that note is actually sounding as an A1, 110Hz, and then decreasingly loud like an A2-220Hz, E3-330Hz, A4-440Hz, etc. Because of this natural phenomena, the brain is already accustomed to hearing the harmonic series when a note is truly produced so hearing that same series the brain helps to make it sound a bit more normal by filling in some gaps.
Minor detail you missed, it's actually your normal cords doing this, left chord and right chord... The frequencies have a triplet pattern, and our ears only really hear whenever both chords hit at the same time.
@@leopirdas6577, how could your true vocal cords produce two notes at the same time? I always hear people say that your singing two notes at the same time, to me it seems more like the vocal cords are only actually making contact half the number of times that they're supposed to and that's why the note is an octave lower. And then your brain for some reason fills in the original note so you end up hearing two notes when in reality you're just singing one
Would you agree?
@@chrismartinez144 partly. It's like this, your right chord vibrates 220 times a second, the left goes 330 times a second, but they only hit 110 times a second, so we hear the 110 hz. However, that note doesn't technically exist (it won't really show up on those pitch graph thingy ma dolly whoopers). That make sense?
My whole argument is that it's only your normal vocal folds vibrating, your false folds aren't vibrating in *this* subharmonic technique. Your false folds are engaged whenever you're doing kagyraa or throat singing/throat bass
This man could get me to buy literally *any* audiobook, just by being the one to narrate it. Idc if it's Twilight, the Bible, or the infamous 'My Immortal', I will buy it solely because *damn* that voice is soothing.
Lucky for you he narrates plenty of great stories for free on his channel!
Yeah, he could read me the phonebook!
"How to sing low:
Have low voice"
of course
You know, people have always been telling me I could be a bass, but I never believed it. Then I see your videos and realize, while I have the advantage of a lower voice, getting where I want is training, and patience. Thank you for the motivation to do work towards something I've only ever considered a fantasy. Your songs are just absolutely amazing.
I did not expect him to have a natural deep voice honestly lol
He started talking I was like "ohhhhhhh. Now it makes sense" xD
I think you're cute.
@@DanteLikesRock I liked your book dante but the sequel was better.
It's not that hard but all its about is control and training. Like I can hit rly low notes but I don't control them. But someday ... oh yeah they will work as I want ;)
Even being a female soprano I love watching videos like this, I absolutely love learning about every voice part
His voice is ASMR to me tho
Same! I'm in choir, and even though I'm female and my part is soprano, it's still nice to watch these tutorials anyways
Same!
Being female doesn't prevent from learning subharmonics. This tutorial is a great help for me, it introduced me to certain aspects of my voice that I wasn't aware of and I never learnt in my coaching lessons. I managed to produce my first subhamonic notes and they're insanely low for me as a woman (used to be a high soprano, but remain to be an alto after 3x Covid). And, using vocal fry, I can quite hit low bass notes just as Geoff does, instable and with little variety but nevertheless. It's incredible.
My voice is also a mile away from this stuff, but it is so interesting, and the growl thing worked so perfectly! I dunno where I would EVER use it my higher pitches though. haha
The speakers on my phone couldn't produce the growl at 2:53. I literally only heard a little bit of air moving. I had to switch to my headphones to even hear it. Insane.
Gotta be a Samsung
@@swaggyp2823 my Samsung does well with bass :p
Wear headphones!!!
@@rudarud3849 That's literally what I said I did....
@@swaggyp2823 It's a cheap phone, a Vivo. I'd rather spend my money on other things.
Wow, super helpful! Never knew those guttural noises I make could come in handy! 😊
Geoff, I've been a bass my whole life of singing (from about age 13 to now, some 58 years). I caught your performance of "Big John" on TH-cam and I loved it! So much so that I posted it on Facebook (people who know me will not be surprised). I remember this song when it was released and I was a young fellow, just starting to sing. Jimmy Dean, who released this in 1961, and also Tennessee Ernie Ford, doing Sixteen Tons, with an earlier release. These songs, and songs like them, helped inspire me to not only sing, but to sing Bass. Your arrangment was really good, too. As a composer and arranger, I understand the kind of time, dedication, and talent it takes to do this. People don't seem to understand how much the arrangment of a song truly impacts the song's efficacy.
I went on to teach music at public schools and also teach privately. All these years I have been singing bass in various groups (and still do today). In all that time, I have almost always been "the" low bass singer in the group. So it is fascinating to view your instruction on this recording. You are spot on. I like how you highlighted relaxation, the "growl", "vocal fry" and working to smooth out the break in your voice. These are quite important.
Some other important things I have learned about singing low over the years, which I am sure you know, but for the benefit of readers, are: a low voice must be nurtured. Some things to help achieve this are 1. Don't talk in your higher voice, but in your lower natural range in a relaxed manner. 2. When warming up to sing, don't just work the high range. Doing this just moves your tessitura (range) up. So warm up specifically doing vocal exercises low and high, so your range develops in both directions. 3. When harmonizing to music (such as CDs, what's online, XM, the radio, etc.), work on your lower range, singing the bass part or low harmonies. 4. Singing in the morning, or even exercising this range when it's early in the day, and the voice is naturally lower, helps to sustain that range as the day goes on. Pretty basic stuff, but good to reinforce for others who are interested in this.
You are very talented and it's a blessing for you to share this with the rest of us. Keep it coming and THANKS!
Huh, this is very interesting. If your tessitura has moved up, is it possible to extend the lower bound to where it once was or even further? I am afraid I might have gotten "stuck up high", if you will.
And 5. when you went with your singing group to a party, greed the chef with the lowest "morning" that you ever produced( takes also 4-6 beer at the day before) ;D
I aint readin allat 🔥🥶💀💀💀
even his normal voice is bass boosted XD
LOL
You should check out corpse husband he makes songs
As a bass singer, this is the most comprehensive bass singing lesson I’ve seen on TH-cam. I’ve been singing bass for years and I feel I’ve leveled up by 100,000 exp in 7 minutes.
From all the bass singers on here, thank you Geoff. You’re a monster and a gentleman.
Saw this vid a few months back, did a lot of the things you said, and now am able to comfortably and reliably hit Ab1. Thanks man.
Also, my pets think I’m insane now
Nobody:
Geoff: Casually hits G1 within the first 3 seconds of the video
Niranjan Rajesh subharmonic
@Niranjan Rajesh subharmonic
I'll rephrase it.
Nobody:
Geoff: Casually hits a B1 and then subs a G1 in the beginning of the video.
Niranjan Rajesh well well well, what have we here?
Step 1: Have a deep ass voice.
Yeas that's Talent
Step 2: have long hair
I have it but normally i use higher notes to speak, but when it comes to imitate Elvis Presley or Leonard Cohen it becomes rly funny. But i want to hit a lot lower notes, but i have no place to train this :(
I speak also with deep voice as normal, but i love to switch my tones and notes while speaking so i can speak higher but my base voice note is much lower ;)
haha jokes on all of you i have both a deep ass voice and really long hair, and apparently i just tested i can naturally drop the register into subharmonics
First bass singer I’ve heard who didn’t criticize vocal fry.
For anyone who was wondering, the subharmonic technique works like this: sound is made up of vibrations, slower vibrations make lower noises. When he is using the vocal fry, the hum is a slower vibration, making the note deeper. Hope this was helpful!
"As you relax your voice you'll slip into your subharmonics"
The only thing I slipped in was silence xD
@Alexandria Hauser Wow. 😂 Hello darkness my old friend...
@Alexandria Hauser Wow that's nice of you.
But did you know why I was getting it?
Because a vision softly creeping, came to me while I was sleeping for 5 minutes.
@Alexandria Hauser Within the sound... of silence?
@Alexandria Hauser Aww thanks. ^^ I often have dreams where I walk through narrow streets of cobblestone.
I enjoyed reading this comment thread
Me, a female Mezzo-Soprano who's trying to finally work on getting whistle notes: yes must watch this very important information
Gotta get that contralto range too.
Well there's two ends of every spectrum
@Alexandria Hauser bruh same sometimes i hit a Bb 5 but mostly A
I don’t need help with singing, I just love how relaxing his voice is.
4:35 mind blown, cheers pal
Now the real challenge is practicing this without people thinking I’m insane
I post this to see again this video and go directly to all techniques
1:43 Growl
2:58 Vocal Fry
3:51 Sub-Harmonics
Thanks for the video !
Apparently I've been doing the growl for a while. I did it when I impersonated smaug as a little kid. It's gotten deeper, and it still uses a lot of air, but it's a fun party trick for the super deep notes
For me, it was Smeagol imitations that opened up my voice range. Smeagol has a high and reedy nasal voice for casual talking, which drops down to a low, raspy, barking voice when he's annoyed or surprised.
Oscillating between an innocent and airy voice to a violent and explosive voice was how I practiced. Essentially, I'd do the whole "my precious" bit, but my spin was to include the sudden angry "gollum cough" afterwards to startle people -- and at first, that's literally what I was doing, clearing my throat to produce that *gollum* sound, and then extending it into speech...
... which ironically is kinda what Geoff is talking about at 1:45ish in.
Edit: Also, can't go wrong with emulating the "Cave of Wonders" tiger from Aladdin. th-cam.com/video/dARFQmEEg8Q/w-d-xo.html
*Who disturbs my slumber?*
@@josephr7684 Been doing it for years imitating anime lol Steve Blum and Nakata jouji.
Been doin with my brothers since I was very young, we all are natural at it and we use it for monster noices and voices
I was the same way, except I did a dual-tone growl to synthesize the intro to the TFK The End is Where We Begin album lol
i used it when i worked in a haunted house, really helpful for getting those rising and dropping growls for creeping people out :D
I love how I genuinely want to learn this skill but I’m a 17 year old girl...
lol you can still learn these, maybe growl might not be as effective for you, you might just sound like a baby dragon trying to learn how to spit fire. you can try sub-harmonics tho, going an entire octave below your chest voice is huge but it takes a lot of practice.
You can totally do this as a girl!! Ella Fitzgerald (kinda) does the subharmonics in her long solo on ‘How High the Moon’ (near the end). It just sounds different and not as low as this video, but it is possible and adds an octave to your range :)!
i'm actually trying it myself aswel(26 female) i have litteraly no idea how to do it. I don't know how to relax my voice. And i can go already very low for a girl but i would love to go even lower with my voice (used to smoke a lot witch helps but a very very bad habbit)
I feel like I'm kinda figuring out the growl ngl, but it's not as if I have editing software to see if I'm making low notes
@@helenamcdonald5042 i do have the software but not the right mic XD I only have a headset(a cheap one)
Wow you have a very beautiful bass voice, even when you speak , such a deep, full, clear, warm and trained sound😻💠✨
My natural voice is only a little higher than yours so ever since I caught your sixteen tons cover I have been obsessed with trying to hit those notes, these tips definitely helped me get close, just less clean by far. Love your stuff.
Sixteen Tons is his hardest solo piece tbh just because of how low and emotive the whole thing is
I’ve been doing the exact same thing since I heard Sixteen Tons as well! I have a pretty deep voice naturally (I can hit about an E above low C without growling) and I’ve just practiced the growl a ton trying to hit those notes! I think my family’s a little sick of the song now… oops
After about 5 mins of growling like an idiot and making people think I am dealing with demons, I can hit all notes in Sixteen Tons but they aren't clear nor GRAINY. It's really flat.
I don't think this counts as an achievement.
WOuld like to get your thoughts on this
That’s exactly the same reason I started
Yeah that's my problem as well. Technically hitting the notes is not hard, the problem is to make it anything more than a frog sound. My vocal fry is just that, pure fry and like 0 harmonics that actually sound like a nice singing voice. Also I can only do it in a mic, anything loud enough for accapella and I immediately loose it.
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it still blows my mind that Treebeard was voiced by the Actor of Gimli
The best part is, if you have closed captions on for Oogie Boogie Song, when he says "man" at the end, the CC says "subterranian" lol
Geoff should also be a voice actor
he might be the perfect voice for Eeyore
He could do those great Disney Haunted Mansion voices.
@@Incomudro1963 yeah that would be cool
He already is. He voices McCree in overwatch
@@JSephH76 isn't that Matt Mercer
That helps me insanely. You're just unbelievable great at explaining how to do it.
almost made myself throw up doing this - eyes watering and all... but i hit some Low AF notes!!
*Is this what success feels like?*
I sing bass in highschool and this really is going to take my song to the next level. Thanks Geoff
did you get first chair form it tho?
(im board)
Well? Did it?
Geoff: It sounds gnarly in the air.
** puts mouth to microphone.
***Mirrors rattle off of my truck because of the bass.
Me: Ah. I see.
I actually laughed out loud haha.
While you're on vacation and your truck is still at the airport
But he could hit the gas and belt it like a death metal growler no doubt, same techique, different results.
Thanks SO much for this. I've always played a lot with those kind of weird sounds throughout my life. And also really liked bass singing, although my natural voice starts losing a lot of power and clarity below G2. Now I suddenly am able to touch an octave lower using this! Will need some training to be more accurate and stable, but super excited about the possibilites. Will definitely subscribe to your channel and sweep through all of it.
I didn't know Matthew Mercer could sing!
There's a great video somewhere of him drunkenly singing "Piano Man" at karaoke.
Oh good, I'm not the only one who thinks he looks like Matt Mercer.
🤣 imagine this guy playing a bard. Would be awsome!
Oh, just a soprano attempting bass notes over here.
Same here!
CAUTION: if at any time you feel your ovaries descending, STOP IMMEDIATELY!
Put on some Celine Dion, lie down, rest, and allow the poor girls to return to their original, upright position.
Also, any hard, Adam's Apple-like growths that may develop on your neck or throat area deserve prompt medical attention.
Oh, just a bass attempting soprano notes over here.
Same ;w;
Same here but at least I can do a few subharmonics😂
"Apparently moving your hands helps too" I've been growling since I was younger than I can remember, but moving my hands helps. I have no idea how I figured out I could growl. But within the past year, I've started to actually be able to sing with it. I didnt know anyone else could even do it but me until I found Tim Foust. Very cool!
All my brothers and me can do it. We found it out by doing monster voices and whatnot, tbh I thought it was really natural for people to do it. My lowest is a D1
Thank you so much Geoff! I've been using this "tutorial" to expand my bass voice as well. I have been practicing for about 6 months now and I've gotten pretty good at it. I came back to this video to check my progress and I can do most of it except the "growl". I can finally hit the bottom of the scale that you sang at the beginning of the video.
Bro I’m a baritone in a middle school choir (8th grade). There are only 3 of us guys who’s voices have dropped. I’ve always envied those who had epic high pitched voices, because I used to have a beautiful high voice. Now the more and more I mature the more I can accept it, and I’m learning to appreciate my voice the more matured it gets
Hey man, I’m a bass II in a high school choir and the best advice I’ve ever been given was own it! Deep voices are just as unique as high voices! Sing out and be proud!
Many guys say, "I can't sing" because they compare their voices to the voices of pop singers, who are tenors. But choirs are starving for bass singers.
I’m the bass in my families church
Bro welcome to the Misty Mountains club.
You'll come to appreciate your deep voice as you age.
@@hellomate639 thanks bro, I’ve grown a lot since I posted this last year and I’m a full bass now, I’m high school and preforming with my towns symphony.
I'm a woman and I know nothing about singing, but I'm watching this because I love hearing his voice so much!
How to sing REALLY low. Presented by a man with a natural voice which is deep af lmao
Literally
That's like corpse giving a tutorial on how to sing low
Hey, even a soprano's gotta work on their whistle range.
Doesnt count lol
This is more of how to sing extremely low when your voice is already really low
I find this quite inspiring. Your speaking voice sounds like mine, and I always thought that singing was not really something I could ever become good at, because everything was out of my range. It's great to see you turning a particularity into an asset like this.
Geoff: it’s gonna hurt like hell
Me: no way
*loses my voice in 10 minutes*
Honestly there's a better way to learn it. There's a different way but it's from the beatbox community. We call it "throat bass" and there's plenty of variations, such as vibration bass. The basses can warp, such as evil bass, alien bass and such, but they won't be what you're looking for if you want to do bass singing
hahaha yes, I´m a girl and tried too hahaha in some minutes I was sounding like a dog hahaha
@@alexlozanov7640 Ah yes, a fellow beatboxer
I already can sing low and high lmao
The most helpful part of this ironically was how to connect my head voice to my chest voice through vocal fry, and it works better than any other practice or technique to learn how to do that. So thanks Geoff!!! (Huge fan btw)
Teacher: Jeff
Jeff: Yes?
Teacher: Geoff
Geoff: Yeos?
The drink brand?
Obama?
Geoff send shivers down my spine when he goes that low
I decided to try it even though I'm a woman, I obviously can't go as low as you can, but practicing these techniques actually have helped expand my range a few notes further down without straining my voice!!
Okay so I'm constantly singing up there with like Ariana, underwood, and Adele and that last technique he showed helped me get crazy lower than I ever could just after watching it once. I'm definitely gonna be practicing that quite often. This man has given the key to have a sick range. Thanks man
me too! im also pretty high up, i saw ur comments from a year ago, how is ur vocal range now?
What a genuine and generous person to share his experience and knowledge this way! My holy grail for music self indulgence is to some day hear Geoff, Tim Foust and Avi Kaplin sing a trio, maybe a re-interpretation of the hall of the mountain king or to revisit the Tolkein Mountains Deep song....can you imagine!
I never ever comment on videos, but I couldn't resist saying THANK YOU for helping me reach these low notes, new power unlocked 🔓!