FIRST REACTION TO Primus - Those Damned Blue-Collar Tweekers (Live from Woodstock '94)
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You have to understand that when Primus first came out. We as a generation were moving from big hair bands to grunge and anything different. Les Claypool is by far one of the top notch bassist around today. He can tap some strings!!! During their shows in the early nineties everyone would chant "Primus sucks" before they came on stage. It was just the thing to do.. Great musician and artist.
Primus Sucks!!!
I would give a kidney if I could go back in time and be there, it is a vibe and Primus is unique.
Primus is a band you're either into or you're not.Their songs tend to be lyrically about crazy characters in the San Francisco bay area and his vocals tend to be "sung" in a characters voice. So kind of like when a parent reads you a bedtime story and does voices for the characters. Some of their music is really jammy and some is pretty tight but it's all pretty experimental. The bassist is typically considered to be the best bass guitarist ever and the drummer is highly rated among drummers as well. If I was going to recommend songs they'd be:
My Name is Mud
Wynona's Big Brown Beaver
DMV
John the Fisherman
Too many puppies
To Defy the laws of tradition
Id like to add the following,
Harold of the Rocks
Greet the Sacred Cow
Bobs Party Time
Camelback Cinema
And lastly, “Ballad of Bodacious” (because i named my dog after this song)
Southbound pachyderm
Harold of the rocks
Spaghetti western
Lacquer head
MrKrinklE Hennepin CrawleR
The fact nobody has said Mr Knowitall is tragic
The answer is people had fun in the 90s.We should try it again.
Primus is a fun band who does not take themselves seriously, they play fun tunes. Just enjoy the ride, do not take it too seriously :>
They only take themselves seriously when performing Pink Floyd and Rush covers. Which no one should ever do, except Primus.
Rich the Ancient Metal Beast
Primus sucks
@@richpeltier9519 my husband, a huge, lifelong Rush fan, got to see Primus’ tribute show in Boston and couldn’t stop raving about how great it was.
Primus sucks!!!
I just stumbled upon your channel. The 2nd verse goes, "I knew a man who hung drywall, he hung it mighty quick, a trip or 2 to the back room would help him do the trick, his foreman pat him on the back whenever he would come around, cuz these damn blue collared tweakers theyre beloved in this town."
Its about blue collar workers doing meth to get through their job, and how meth users "tweakers" can still function in everyday society. Like most Primus songs, its about a mundane part of life. Led Claypool the vocals/bass player is widely heralded as the best bass player in the world. The drummer Tim Alexander is also talked about amongst drummers as a top 10 drummer. Their music is a blend of funk and metal with lyrics full of storytelling rather than repetitive choruses or hooks. Claypool is also not a good singer, so he uses different microphones to change his voice and speaks in different tones. They are extremely divisive when it comes to listeners. So love them, others usually have zero connection to their odd sound. This is Primus and they suck, at least that's been their moniker for 30 years. You did hit on a very important aspect of the band, they are a jam band through and through. The song, Too Many Puppies, is a banger. Give them a few more tries, they are like coffee, it might take some getting used to.
Not to mention Larry LaLonde, most overshadowed guitarist in history, top 50 guitarist in history easily, check the lists, top 10 imo.
@@starryeyedcreative the dude literally had a massive hand in inventing death metal, played some super prog/tech thrash with Les in Blind Illusion, then went on to this insane avant-garde jazz wizardry he plays in Primus.
You can’t really understand and appreciate until you have been there. Really just one of those things. For sheer talent…top trio in history.
Hectic lol... As a survivor of 21 Primus shows, good word. Trust me, they're paying attention. There's nothing like hearing 50,000 people chant "Say baby!" I've often described Primus shows as two hour aerobic classes. It's insane and soooooo much fun.
Moshers are probably more in-the-zone than most of the audience, they're just wildin near the speakers. There's an etiquette for moshing, for example if you see someone down, you help em up ASAP, it's a really fascinating phenomenon, even without getting into the walls-o-death and such.
Ask yourself what the purpose of music is. Is it a display of technical proficiency? Or a construction to convey a specific message to the audience perhaps? These can both be true. I would say another good description would be "An attempt to convey or instill feelings and emotions in the listener." Primus isn't about sitting and deeply regarding the meaning of the lyrics (in many cases the vocals are just another instrument and the meaning of the words themselves are secondary) or how well the musicians conformed to standard music theory and composition (This might explain why it sounds like a jam session to you). I've always thought of Primus as music to lose yourself in and go for a ride. It's the musical equivalent to an acid trip. You just surrender yourself to it and see where the ride takes you. In this case the crowd was clearly riding waves of emotion, which can look odd if you're not along for the ride with them. Have you ever been the only sober person in the room when everyone else is drunk? To a sober person drunk people appear to be acting silly, sometimes even annoying. In this video Primus is taking the crowd on one amazing trip and you're the sober person stuck on the outside of all the fun. At least that's how it appears to me.
this band has a lot of technical talent in terms of bass and drums and guitar so to say anyone can just go on stage and do this is so WRONG. i think you just don't like their sound, its a lot easier to say that then to say anyone can just go on stage and start jamming.
Just to clarify. The people in the audience are doing the right thing. They are enjoying the music and the performers are second. Which is how I think most true musicians feel. They want to be heard, seen is second. But truly enjoying the music it is the ultimate compliment
I was there in the crowd and was 21 years old and this was one of my favorite bands.words can’t even describe how insane this was..there music makes you dance
I want to know who is giving you suggestions like Primus. These guys are about just enjoying the stage, playing with an abnormal dynamic by keeping the bass up front and they're pretty experimental at times. I absolutely love Primus but I'm still GLAD you were honest here instead of making faces for the camera and lying like so many others. RESPECT
Nobody seems to be paying attention to the musicians…..and nobody is on a cell phone!! Simpler times!!! (As I write this using my phone 😅)
Mosh pits are a sign that the crowd loves the music so much they will run, jump, and push each other till exhaustion but.....remember, no one gets hurt due to mosh etiquette.
My Primus perspective.
I grew up in the 90s when they were at their peak. At the time there was a lot of music snobbery and a lot of bands taking themselves very seriously. There was thrash metal, grunge, and “progressive rock”. The last one was lorded over by a band called RUSH that all the music nerds worshiped. Primus was like a cartoon version of RUSH. they were refreshingly different than all the other stuff going on. They weren’t mad or sad. They sang about fishing and cartoonish animals. They even sold tee shirts that said “Primus Sucks”.
Interesting side fact. The lead singer of Primus went to school with Kirk Hammett from Metallica and he tried out for them. Didn’t get the job obviously.
Adding on, he didn’t get the gig because he was “TOO GOOD” of a bass player.
You do know that Les was one of those nerds worshiping Rush, right? He performed a tribute at their R&R HOF induction
Rush is Les' favorite band. Geddy Lee is his hero. Primus is on tour (right now, I believe) performing Rush's entire album A Farewell to Kings.
The band worked the crowd up into a frenzy. Making them dance at will.
I don't might not be important but less clayful is badass in the base for primus but there's also this guy called Steve Bailey and there's another guy called Victor Wooten Masters I like Les claypool's goofy take to it it's a breath of fresh air for some of us.
Primus also did this hysterical thing where they would play the best song of the band they were opening for FIRST that night. When they opened for RUSH they played YYZ. When they opened for Metallica they played Master of Puppets.
I caught the Primus/Rush show in Houston. Good stuff!
Primus does a great cover of Metallica's The Thing That Should Not Be. Musically it is spot on except for the singing which unmistakably Les Clay Pool. I missed your friend who is always trying to get you into Primus. That is so funny and the he says yes the more you say no. I just love your resistance and I know one day your going to crack. Just got to find the right angle.
@@sgtstank I'm jealous af.
It-s a mosh pit, they are appreciating the music but in dance/rugbymatch/gang fight sort of way. The music is incredibly loud and every atom in your body is bouncing to the beat. It's a visceral experience.
"Why is no one appreciating the music?" Moving IS appreciating the music! Interesting experience for all who get into Primus. Either you get it or you don't
They’re totally appreciating the music. Every Primus show I’ve been too, this is the crowd. You can’t help but bounce up and down. They’re extremely fun band and their shows are just the same. Check out “my name is mud” from the same show. Or “defy the laws of tradition “. And he does have a Jam band, “Les Claypool and the frog brigade”.
I saw an entire set that was a non stop line of crowd surfers being riding the wave to the front railing. That's not hyperbole, from start to finish, the surf line was there.
they're appreciating the music by dancing around. I can say that because I am one of those people that goes to concerts to "vibe" out.
Turst me, they are all appreciating the music. That's just how it goes. I don't go in the mosh-pits much anymore but, I've experienced that a lot. It's all love.
For drummers, the song "Pudding Time" is a masterpiece.
Herb's use of symbols is sublime.
A great mosh put like that is a sign of applause and approval. 😁 the crowd feels comfortable just enjoying the moment and the vibes! It's definitely a compliment to the band's performance! And those people in that pit... they know the words, they're just having too much fun to sit still ❤
appreciating the music is done with your ears, not your eyes ;)
As much as I might like to throw my hands up in exasperation at JB's reactions to all my favourite bands from the 90's, if our roles were reversed I think I would have a hard time pretending to love every gospel or hip hop song that was requested - even if I was really open to it.
good point
I never saw a bigger mosh pit in my life then Primus at Tibetan freedom concert in San Francisco in the late 90s incredible.
I was sore for over 2weeks after a Primus show. Those were the days...
@@saoirse5409 😆🤘
If you ever saw south park the original opening song is primus
Who says they hate Primus? Their fans have a saying to prove they are true fans: Primus sucks! Thats what their FANS say... its an inside joke!
I really hope that you react to mudvayne, death blooms , prod , or severed one of this 3 are so good on bass and drumming 😊
90 percent of the people at music festivals are drunk ,high and or both. It’s basically a giant party. They are just vibing out having a good time to music. It doesn’t matter whose up there. Maybe a portion of the fans actually came to see primus specifically. I’m sure there were many other bands in the line up. Primus is one of those bands that is an acquired taste. The first time i heard them i didn’t really like them but they grew on me. If you saw them live it would make more sense.
If you listen to another song by primus it needs to be 1 of these 3 songs . John the Fisherman, Frizzle Fry , spaghetti western. These songs are way more digestible than the first 2 you listened to. They are very groovy and not as off the wall as the others you have heard.
The Speghetti Western pull is impressive
@@bmeggs19 it’s one of my favorite songs by them
Mr. know it all. The breakdown in the middle is sick. Tim Alexander is fucking awesome
I love the way the boots are reverbed out on the floor lol
I was in this crowd. It was as crazy as it looks.
They do captivate live it’s just that his bass playing gets u to the point u can’t help but dance as much as you want to sit and watch him play
This footage is from Woodstock '94, so the crowd was extremely varied where it pertains to musical tastes. This was also about the time of Primus' peak in popularity, so it's probably safe to say the majority of people there were somewhat familiar with Primus' music, if not legit fans of the band.
I think to really understand what all the hype surrounding Primus was about you have to think about it in the context of that particular era of music. Grunge and Alternative Rock were THE big thing in music, and people were really hungry for new sounds. Primus absolutely owes a large amount of their success to some very fortunate timing. People were truly sick of the slick, overproduced sounds of the 80's, whether it were Synth Pop, or the Hair Metal scene that ruled throughout the 80's and all the way up to 1991 when Nirvana came along and simultaneously killed 80's music AND opened the door for all kinds of new and different sounding bands. So a band like Primus was perfect for the the times.
Inspirational? Yeah, this is not it. This is just wacky, different, funny and not to be taken too serious. Don't overthink it, man. This band is just good times and somewhat of a running joke, that's all.
they most definitely are appreciating the music
Tweekers meaning druggies. 15 years before "twerk" existed
So, you had half the people saying they loved it and half the people saying they hated it, that’s 100% primus approval rating, also primus sucks.
Okay what you need to understand is that Primus does have real meaning behind their lyrics. But I've noticed over the years of listening to reactions and people who were immersed in a single type culture cannot adjust or give a claim two different types of outside music it doesn't really work on their level of conscious with their type of music you have to be able to break free from your stereotypical or your path of music that you were born within your generation .I played everything from Rock, hardcore, metal, funk reggae, jazz ,hip-hop, Rasta core, punk, marching and drum corpse and many other types of music,which gives me a wide range of of musical listening abilities. There's a lot of people out there who call themselves musicians but yet they can't get past other types.They stick with in their own. Thank you for the reactions.
I said it in the last video, and I'll say it again.
Frizzle Fry is a great song. 100% recommend.
I'd say Frizzle Fry is a great ALBUM.
all the Primus fans absolutely know the lyrics. But the mosh pit that size is hilariously fun ... and this is at a music festival so not everyone in the crowd is a fan. Plenty are there just for the environment and just get carried away.
That crowd is as they are BECAUSE of the music!
More fun Primus info
They used the advance money for their first album to buy recording equipment. Then recorded their albums with it. They used the advance money for their second about to buy a boat (they love fishing).
Primus, they were seriously fun to see! I know, I was there, in Oakland CALIFORNIA at the Omni, they are Fabulous!
respect for being honest! that makes me want to check out your other videos
Regarding the crowd... rock/metal festivals are parties as much as concerts. What you perceived to be ignoring the band was actually how many fans "rock out" at these events. You saw crowd surfing a lot in this. The guys in a circle (a.k.a. the pit) banging into each other is known to many as "moshing" or "slam dancing".
Its unexplainable when they come out starting up this song. Theres a huge energy rush when he starts up. It sounds amazing!
If you feel the music, like any other music, you begin to move your body. The more people that move the more you could say they are appreciating the music and consequently the musician. Primus thrives on audience energy. In fact more rock bands live off of the crown energy. I would hate the show if everyone just stood and watched Les in awe.
I was in that crowd. they were playing on the second stage, the main stage had a crowd twice that size
I was there, Woodstock 1999, summer after high school graduation
Rock music for me has always been about the energy more than any technical aspect. Going to festivals was about the release of that energy. That’s just from my perspective as someone with a bit of a tin ear. I never considered Primus to be high level musically though.
I’m really gaining new perspectives and appreciation for some of my music collection seeing the reactions of musicians, and a younger generation.
This is a mosh pit. When you go to the front of a show like this you get in the pit. Crowd surfing and just going wild. It's an expression of the feeling in the 90s.
Bro I'm sorry you missed the mosh pits and what's it what it was like at these festivals.
Music is the vehicle that carries us to the vibe.
P.S. Les Claypool has a band with Sean Lennon now called The Claypool Lennon Delirium that is worth a listen - less jam-bandish than Primus.
Bro I love primus and I love your honest opinion. Had me dying. Much love.
They are a band that marches to their own beat. Litterly. Lol.
I appreciate you reacting to the song. You’re a good man and keep up the reactions. You got a like and subscribe from me.
Look, I had this epiphany a few weeks back listening to Primus. To fully appreciate the music you have to first get your Les Claypool bob going....you know....that little bow-legged bounce he does. Once you start listening to their music and get yourself into that bounce...it all starts to make sense.
Man, just your appalled face made me subscribe 😂😂😂, keep ‘em coming
The mosh pit was so fucking awesome! You have to understand, at the time, Oakland CALIFORNIA , and the entire Bay Area , was an insane place, a bit scary, and very exciting! People were extreme, and so , so heavy! Buckle up buttercup!
Thats Woodstock 1994 and it was a lot of bands playing, primus was just one of them
it's in his primal scream: Indian War Dance. That and the incredible base guitar. Youthful exuberance for drug use may be conducive to mash pit energy. My name is Mud, also. But mud literally gets slung. I had two 15" Subwoofers in my first car. Didn't really like Rap music but it played well in my car. In the same space maybe 4X 10" JBLs would rock the Bass Guitar and do Primus justice.
Primus is life
Keep em coming mate
Primus is like Nick Cave youve gotta give it time to settle
Musicians react to music differently than the pure listener. Primus fans tend to either love them for technical ability or their humor. Les Claypool (bass) isn't trying to score a #1 hit song. He is trying to do unique things that don't fit any mold. He once tried out for Metallica, but he was "too good" and "too creative."
Please stop saying that, Les said himself that they just thought he didn't fit their "image". Basically saying he was too weird for the band. It was just Metallica being nice because they didn't want someone who looked the way he did.
If you could have seen footage of just the crowd, you would visibly see instant reactions to the music, a slowing of crowd movement when the music got quiet, and a burst of excitement when the music kicked hard. They were very much in tune with the music and appreciating it. It's one thing to see it and another to experience it. The "dancing" is a culture in itself, it has a long history going back to the 70s.
The song itself is about the labor (labour) class. When you get into the culture of blue-collar workers you find they are normally abused by the work itself, the hours, and to keep up they use speed (tweekers). These are the people that do all the shit/backbreaking jobs no one else can do and effectively keep every community going. They are overlooked and looked down upon lower class of people that do what they must to survive. This is strictly my opinion of course.
Primus is an acquired taste but just because you don't get it doesn't mean they just throw together music in jam sessions. It's definitely not as easy as it looks.
This Les in 94. Watch his solos from 10 or 20 years after this. He gets better.
'The Union boys are there to protect us from all the corporate types,
But Curious George's drug patrol was out here hunting snipe' *is a bar.*
Yea, the people are there to see them so they can vibe with the music. They’re not vibing with the music despite them being there.
Woodstock 94 is EASILY 1 of the 10 greatest rock concerts ever.
And this + those mid 90s Pinkpop shows were the pinnacle of mosh pit culture.
Trust me there was love in THOSE pits.
Woodstock 99…… nooooope.
Primus is just like a throwing a comedy movie suggestion to a film snob. Good fun, sometimes a bit silly, but enjoy it. Same tools, different results.
They are more than a vibe.
This is a unique group 👌 super talented and quirky 🤪
Some songs are word for work sing alongs. But this is not for you
Courteous aggression in the pit. When you go down there’s many hands that pull you to your feet. The music, volume and proximity is a wonder to experience. When stage diving in the 80’s took off it was encouraged by a lot of thrash bands as long as you didn’t mess with the equipment and did your dive. Saw a yoof climb a PA stack, leap off, smack his head on the lighting rig & was spark out when he hit the crowd. Death Angel, Rock City I think 🤔
PS. There was a time in the UK when the crowd used to gob on the band. Suicidal Tendencies should have brought brollies. Rocky George the guitarist was drenched. Never got it mind, spill over from Punk 🤘🏻
Hated most of there songs my first listen but now there my favorite band it’s different it puts a smile on my face
Primus is purposefully quirky and sometimes it can be off putting. They don’t take themselves seriously and they don’t expect listeners to. I mean, one of their biggest hits is a song called Winona’s Big Brown Beaver. (Probably one of their more structured and accessible songs)
I agree that they are very much a jam band and they embrace that. Sometimes there are some really great moments that come out of just being spontaneous and not as structured.
They are feeling the music in general. Les Claypool is a very technical bass player. The whole band are great musicians. The vocals are tongue and check usually. There most catchy songs are jerry was a race car driver and my name is mud
Too many puppies, it’s about war
This was great, you should do more Primus i was cracking up. Do jillys on smack live at Bonnaroo 2011! Your hilarious dude subbed
Yea, they are appreciating all of it.
All Primus fans do agree :
Primus sucks!
also this is woodstock a very famous festival, many people go to festival to have a good time. Not everyone in festivals are fans of primus they might be there to see other bands so they might not be as invested into watching them. also just moshing is pretty common in rock n metal culture.
Dude, it was the 90s. Everyone went mad at every show. The fact that we all went ape shit at all these shows was the biggest compliment to these bands. The worst would be for nobody to dance and go nuts. You have got to stop looking through your eyes and look through others. You’re restricting yourself. Primus are they’re own thing. You can’t compare them to anyone really. The only thing I could say that they are like is if Tom Waits, Tool and weird Al had a demented child. And beat it. And I don’t think you understand alternative/punk/metal bands or their fans. And I don’t ever see you trying. You’re only going by musicianship. Sometimes these songs are perfect for letting everything go and just dance around. As the great Tom Waits said-“it ain’t no sin, take off your skin, and dance in your bones”.
With Primus you just move how the music moves you. Mosh on.
When i show people primus, i don't give them things like tommy the cat first.. there are SO many great primus songs that aren't as wacky. "hennepin crawler" "southbound pachyderm live dvd" "too many puppies" "groundhogs day"
I subscribe to your channel to your station because I played bass for 20+ years and I like primus and I like your original reaction to it epic.
Primus fans are split into two categories; the stoners and partyers, and serious musicians that know what's up. Just to give you an idea, I knew the late great genius Sax player Michael Brecker. We were watching tv at a family holiday dinner and Primus came on. He said, "Oh wait, leave this. I've heard these guys before, they're serious players. These guys are gonna get big."
No doubt Claypool has an odd sense of humor that definitely goes into the music, but make no mistake, they're serious musicians. They're their own genre.
Modern day moshing was practically invented at Primus concerts. I can’t over state that. Or over state there value getting musicians to take musical chances during a time when differentiating yourself was not the thing to do. They are Trail Blazers who get regularly dismissed because they were too different or talented but not talented enough. Or too weird, or what have you. They were different when being different want valued. But their live shows are off the hook. Period. So much fun.
Primus Sucks Primus Sucks …..lol
No seriously remember
“IF ITS ART it’s not for everyone. IF ITS for everyone then ITS NOT ART”
They were a Rock band that was heavily influenced by Funk. They are unique, fun, creative and extremely talented. Les Claypool auditioned to play Bass for Metallica and they told him ... No, you're more than good enough but you should be doing your own thing.
Their Motto was - Primus Sucks!
The reason people both "hate" Primus and love them is because they were active on the Oz Fest tours which are exclusively Metal Bands and then Primus would be in there and people would initially be angry because you can't really bang your head to them and so you want to hate them but they are so good, creative, entertaining and exceptional that you couldn't help but love them too. People wanted to HATE them because they are so different but people couldn't help but LOVE them because they are so good. Hence, their fans shout Primus Sucks! which really means we don't want to like you but we LOVE you anyway.
It's like if you went to a Hip Hop Festival and it had all of your favorite groups and then there was one that did something very different that wasn't even Hip Hop but you liked them the most anyway.
Primus appeals to people that are "different", a misfit of sorts and appreciate that about themselves and Primus. Do you know that guy that just doesn't give a f#ck ... He would LOVE Primus.
I've heard you mention bass solos in a negative manner twice now. Go check out Trivium - Becoming the Dragon. I think you'll really enjoy it and it has a great bass solo.
I disagree with people that say PRIMUS does not take themselves seriously. They do. They’re professionals but quirky professionals. Nothing else sounds like them and that is one thing that makes them great. .
Les is a good storyteller, and his lyrics are often about blue collar people, hard workers, and people that unfortunately succumb to drugs and alcohol.
You have not heard the funk untill you listen to Spagetti Western from their 91' Frizzle Fry album. Sure everybody quotes WBBB or Jerry Was a Racecar Driver but the real gems of Primus are the lesser known tracks
The bigger the mosh pit (People dancing chaotically) the bigger sign of respect for the band
My lawyer once said, Michael the less u say in court the better.Short answers..Enjoy the music man
Primus sounds EVEN MORE AMAZING oN🍄🍄🍄🍄🍄😵💫
...FIND OUT!!!
How is a giant crowd going nuts 'not appreciating the music"?!
I welcome and applaud your opinion. But I also think you may not be understanding of where this music is coming from. You have to remember that Primus started up in the late '80s very early '90s. That was a very weird time for most rock music as it was a transition from '80s hair/glam metal in which the boys looked like girls and vice versa, lol, and the first exposures nationwide to grunge. Primus was definitely grungy and that it didn't fit any other possible label available at the time. Yes, it is very jam band-like, but there was nothing else like it being played anywhere. The closest thing to the fusion that Les claypool was making were bands like the Red Hot chili peppers and possibly Faith No more. And all three bands are incredibly different from each other in so many ways. The similarity in those three bands is that they were bucking the norm, they were breaking the mold and as someone who has listened to the chili peppers, Faith no More, and Primus for over 30 years, I appreciate them just as much now as I did as a 13 and 14-year-old misfit who didn't fit in with the metal heads and I did not fit in with the grunge crowd. Seeing bands like Primus and listening to them gave those of us who did not fit a specific mold inspiration to March to our own beat. I will also admit that the first day I ever listened to Primus is also the first day I smoked pot, in my life. I believe that both of those events definitely help shape the rest of my life. That is just my two cents,