Could You Really Legally Kill Someone with a "Wanted Dead or Alive" Bounty on Their Head?
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A classic Hollywood trope is the idea of a poster with the photo of a given criminal along with very large print text that would say something like “Wanted- Dead or Alive”. But did these actually ever exist and could you actually kill someone legally when such a poster was issued by the authorities?
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Thank you Brilliant for making this possible! Check out Brilliant here: brilliant.org/brainfood And for those interesting in listening to our Teddy Roosevelt "Bull Moose" series of our podcast here you go podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-brainfood-show/id1350586459 or open.spotify.com/show/36xpXQMPVXhWJzMoCHPJKd or playmusic.app.goo.gl/?ibi=com.google.PlayMusic&isi=691797987&ius=googleplaymusic&apn=com.google.android.music&link=play.google.com/music/m/Insimdi4g6puyyr4qbt6tup5b6m?t%3DThe_BrainFood_Show%26pcampaignid%3DMKT-na-all-co-pr-mu-pod-16 Seriously, this story with the boat is just the tip of the ice berg with this guy. He was incredible.
Did Victorian wallpaper really kill people?
Just how many ideas did Thomas Edison steal off other inventors and take all the credit for?
Fuck Brillant.
How many enduring myths and supposed accomplishments about the Roman empire are completely untrue?
Uhh thanx for the roosevelt link
Aaaaaand now I feel like I would never be capable of acompleting anything
I don't know if anyone ever did
Wait. Someone stole Teddy Roosevelt's boat, so he immediately _built a new one,_ in the middle of winter, so he could pursue the thieves??? Are we sure Teddy wasn't some kind of superhero in disguise?
He absolutely was.
Who says he was in disguise?
He was Ron Swanson before Ron Swanson existed.
The dude was Rambo.
Bully for you.
The manliness man that ever excited!
"They stole his boat so he built his own boat and chased them down" whoa whoa whoa why isn't the entire video about this?
The Brainfood Podcast tell the full story, and it's freaking awesome! : )
Movie.
Hardly a day went by in Teddy Roosevelt's life that you couldn't do an entire TIFO video on.
The BullMoose should be a movie starring Tom Selleck
Jack Dempsey was pretty badass too. Not only was he heavyweight boxing champion at 180 lbs but when he was 70 years old he got attacked by two men and dropped them both with body shots. The men were still on the ground when cops arrived.
Any story about Teddy Roosevelt could be titled "In which Teddy Roosevelt makes every man alive feel a little less manly."
Only a little? Lol
What about a story about how he stubbed his toe? Guaranteed to have happened at least once
@@skylergarza8371 Ah, I remember that one. Yes, it was an end table. He simply looked at his toe, then cleared his throat. The table then broke itself to pieces and flung itself into the fireplace in shame.
@@angelicamichelle1646 what are you talking about? When did he kill mexican women and children?
This would be an easy task today with all the Fe-Males running around with their feminist attitudes. The emasculation of men has been in full swing for at least 10 years now.
Criminals: Oh hey! This is a wonderful boat, I think We should steal it!
Teddy Roosevelt: *Builds a brand new boat, tracks down the thieves, captures them, and then escorts them to the police without sleeping*
Mistakes were made.
Boat for sale, newly built, used once.
STOP, YOU HAVE VIOLATED THE LAW!
Not sure he got either boat back home in the end.
Teddy 'The manliest man' roosevelt
There was murder. The detective suspected the artist first… because he was sketchy.
Ken Fulton {Baby Elder}
The detective was wrong, so he went back to the drawing board.
Ken Fulton {Baby Elder} 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽❤️
@@elizabethcallan10 -I suspect Ken Fulton, he's killing me.
Lol
i doubt the word scetchy was in their vocabulary at that age
I didn't kill him, I found him that way😂
yeah... suicide, heart attack, accident... lots of ways do die besides being murdered.
Your profile picture suits your comment so well...
"What about the smoking gun in your hand?"
"ahm.. finders keepers?"
tony soprano , i found him like this ,:}
17 stabwounds to the back? Clearly suicide!
"WANTED
DEAD OR ALIVE"
MORE like
"WANTED
DEAD OR ALIVE
*but pls don't just kill him for fun
Because that our job
@@galaxyriderx51 what
Pretty sure they initially meant that if you found him dead, you can still bring him in for a reward.
Short answer: NO. Only if they resist and you are required to use deadly force while bringing them in.
Thanks. I was scrolling through the comments for something like this.
@@michaelhoover500 Running away is literally resisting though?
Indeed, the 'dead or alive' is actually an indication they want you alive but will settle for dead, or else it would simply say dead.
I think there is a reward penalty if you bring the target in dead.
No short answer is yes bc youd just say he resisted
Today I found out Teddy Roosevelt was an absolute badass.
Matt McNicholas
Yes he was. His son who was shot down in WWI by the Germans was given a full military honors burial by the Germans out of respect for how badass TR was.
Really? You just found that out today?
Andrew Jackson gets extra badass points for beating his would-be assassin with a walking stick.
Sean Nolan
He was definitely a top five bad ass of American history
@@rowynnecrowley1689 lol, not everyone is an american,
I only know his name thanks to night at the museum film,
and simpsons episode in witch bart en the bullies get class with him as an exemple :-D
Can confirm. Source: I play Red Dead Redemption
Lol
Can confirm. Source: I watched Django Unchained
Can confirm. Source: I read One Piece.
FACTS
@@JimmySilverFoot, yes, they are facts. All of the three above, undeniable facts you can easily test yourself.
*Question:* Before the invention of cars, did a speed limit exist? For example, did you have to slow your horse down going thru built-up areas?
Probably not, if Adam Ruins Everything is to be believed. Before automobiles, streets were mixed use, with pedestrians all over the place. You would have had to slow down simply because there was no room to speed. This video from that time in history seems to support those claims.
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Labyrinth9000 hey good video suggestion dude
In 5he state of Nevada the open road had no speed limit until the national 55 speed limit was passed by
1974 or 75 I think !
I forgot about this thread. Didn't get notifications for the older comments, just for the last one! Cheers all
Damnit. Every time I think Teddy Roosevelt couldn't get any more badass, I hear a story like that. There's truly no limit to his badassery.
Could a wanted person turn themselves in and collect their own bounty?
Probably not.
@@savagedragon79 Pfft. No way I'm paying after I'm dead. That'll show em.
No. Legally an accused criminal cannot profit from his crime by having the state abet it by paying them a reward. Its sheer gall. The logic behind getting a reward for turning yourself in is like the anecdote about a man who murdered his parents, and then threw himself on the mercy of the court because he was now an orphan.
No, but I bet a family member could do it. Like he said though, most of the time law enforcement was probably going to screw you out of most of the money anyway.
Yes, they would write them a check and put it in their casket.
Video Title: Is a Dead Bounty Legal?
Actual content of video: Teddy Roosevelt being a badass as usual
It’s actually extremely important to our freedom that we not be allowed to kill people that are wanted, as this would essentially allow the government to sentence anyone to death without a trial via “death by bounty”.
That exists in defacto manner anyhow. Just depends on the crime. Cop killers for example are killed by police regardless of their actions & behavior during subsequent encounters while those warrants are trying to be performed. Fleeing felon rule is one example of its implementation.
On my first visit to "The West" I was walking around Moab and found a wanted poster for Lance Leroy Arellano. The poster asked hikers to look out for flocks of vultures and blood trails and annouced a reward of $30k for "information leading to the apprehension and/or recovery of the suspect" Not quite "dead-or-alive" but close. Five years later I learned the whole story. In Nov 2010, Arellano was sleeping in his car when approached by State Ranger Brody Young. He shot Young 9 times, in the back,groin, left arm but Young crawled back and returned fire through his truck using his right hand (Young is left-handed). Arellano yelled "You got me", but drove off in his car, abandoned it and took off into the brush. There was a huge manhunt but nothing was found. 4 years later two local boys went back and traced Arellano's likely movements and found the cave containing his skeleton & gun.
Amazingly Ranger Young recovered and is walking around today with 4 bullets still inside. A true story of the American West.
Roosevelt is a badass.
greetings from Canada
And a pretty cool guy too overall. :-) The many articles and books he wrote are fascinating reads. -Daven
Always my fave
I have a feeling that if we ever have time travel or a past viewer like in the book 'in the light of other days' we will find that Roosevelt was either way less cool than we think he is or way cooler.
@@metamorphicorder probably way cooler
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I always forget the most American American was Teddy Roosevelt.
Shady is the American way.
He is the true embodiment of all that is American: big, boisterous, gun toting, muderfooking badass
@@Feriin
The only perfect person there ever was and will be is Jesus, and we don't even know if he actually existed.
Besides, Teddy went into politics, you literally cannot be a politician without compromising a few moral points to achieve your goals; however righteous they may be.
He did do some shady stuff but he also did some amazingly good things
@@cptTK421 you can be, you just can't be successful.
Actually the facts surrounding Teddy Roosevelt bringing men who are wanted dead or alive still alive makes me respect him way more and makes him seem like an even tougher customer. As you mentioned before it’s far easier to cheat the hangman and just kill a bounty than to haul them kicking and screaming all the way to either the courthouse or jail.
My wife loves your trivia. I use it on long drives or walks. Usually when our talk hits that lull. This one will not be a good subject.
Keep the great trivia coming.
The more remarkable thing about the Teddy story was just imagine how much adrenaline you would be using during the process of catching armed thieves... and then staying awake 40 hours afterwards. If you have never been in a true life or death situation where you have prolonged adrenaline rush, I can't express how hard you crash immediately afterwards.
you get the shakes real bad the first time
"Cause I'm wanted,
WWAANNTTTTEEDDD...
DEAD OR ALIIIIIVE!"
Great song!!
Love that song
@Weston Prather funny! I like that song,but you actually made me snort out loud,so I gave you a thumb for that!🤣🤣
In the early 1980's I was a US military Policeman and even at that time deadly force was authorized for a "fleeing felon". It was a known fact that we would have shot a known felon if he had fled from us. Fortunately, I was never involved in any situations like that but it was a part of our continued training throughout my years in the military.
notsosilentmajority1 I just left police work a year ago.. you still shoot dangerous fleeing felons..
@@ferdonandebull
So it hasn't changed then. We didn't use the word "dangerous" back then, it may be a newer adaptation and it does make sense. If someone steals a thousand dollar piece of jewelry and flees, should we use deadly force? Usually not, so the addition of the word dangerous sounds good. Thanks for the update. Not sure if you retired from LE work or just moved into another line of work but either way have a wonderful, happy and healthy future brother.
notsosilentmajority1 I started in 1977 and am retired!!!! Lol
@@ferdonandebull
Fantastic. Congratulations and "Welcome to the Club", lol. Enjoy your retirement and your future. God Bless.
Love your videos so educational and fun. Nice to have guys like you still educating the youth and the old about history
Thieves who stole Roosevelt's boat: why do i hear home depot music?
💀
Another highly informative segment; I'd never really thought much about the specifics of Wanted posters, this was eye-opening.
I'm a cowboy. On a steel horse I ride. Wanted... DEAD OR ALIVE! *STEEL GUITAR INTENSIFIES*
Goddamn it Teddy Roosevelt
You are the most interesting person in American history
So, so fascinating. :-)
outside of Trump, i like Teddy!
@@TodayIFoundOut Simon, why do you get sponsored by Brilliant when we can have Brilliance for free on your channel 🤔
@@mrbadx19 Trump is pretty damn interesting, certainly not competent, but interesting nonetheless.
@@fisharepeopletoo9653 when you're a billionaire, you can dish out competency judgments, you're in a lessor class, probably lower than me.
Wonder how many innocent people were killed and turned in for bounties, identification back the wasn't so accurate.
Fuck em
@Joe Mamma no brain
So back then, if you needed to get rid of anyone, just make a bounty🧑👀🧑, it's like a legal hitman
This touches on the concept of outlawry. The idea that the state can withdraw any legal rights/protections from someone judged to be, well, outside the law. As in your presentation today, people who were the subject of Dead or Alive posters were definitely outside the law's protection and thus COULD be killed without legal ramifications (given all the caveats you described). But the key was, outlaws were not permitted legal protection of any kind and in our American West in the 19th and early 20th century you could find yourself on the end of a short rope. Great presentation today.
More modern tale ... slightly more modern, anyway ... As a young rookie cop around 1991, I was in court and a rather unpleasant and socially maladjusted fellow did not appear as required. His bondsman asked the judge for a few extra days to retrieve the fellow as he was expected to be much more difficult and quite possibly dangerous to retrieve than said bondsman had anticipated when signing his bond. The judge agreed to the additional time and noted, in open court, "I will accept a death certificate in lieu of his physical appearance."
IIRC, we had less FTAs (failures to appear) for a little while after that. 🤣😂
CeltKnight wish it was still like that! Amazing judge
That's pretty disgusting and disturbing.
@@MissSpaz - Lighten up. The judges comment did not change law or endorse the killing of the fugitive. It was a psychological tool that, when heard by the many sitting in court waiting to have their case continued or otherwise leave on bond, convinced them that coming back was a good idea. Saved us a bundle on overtime and mileage having to go all over the state picking them up. No one was hurt or killed.
Miss Spaz it’s neither disgusting or disturbing. If more criminals were dispatched properly or even held in prison longer, there would be fewer crimes. Then the rest of us could go about our business more secure. If you’re a criminal, you don’t deserve much consideration, imo.
@@patrickperry6945 Ever heard of desperadoes? As in criminals so certain of a death sentence they will readily commit additional murders etc. to avoid capture.
All you need to do is yell 'it's coming right for us!', same as hunting.
Note the present tense.
Cops still do this.
Then there’s Schrödinger’s cat, who is dead AND alive 😻🙀
And it becomes one or the other when you bring them in for your bounty
😂😂😂
90% of people learned it from the Big Bang Theory. If you did, then shut the fuck up. Some of us learned by not watching telivision all the time
Learned it in physics class... and vlogbrother Hank Green’s jokes. I don’t own a television I prefer to be addicted to TH-cam 😜
"Wanted: dead and alive" nice.
I think for the first time in TH-cam I'm going to take up the sponsor's offer! I've never done that but this Brilliant website seems pretty great! Just a heads up that your hard work is paying off👍
Ironically, he inspired the Teddy bear.
Theodore Roosevelt and the Grizzly bear inspired Teddy Bear. He promoted National park and set aside part of it to protect the Grizzly bear.
It was a baby bear and it was captured. Where's the fun in that. I'm sure he hunted himself some wild bear at some point in his life.
I've heard that on one hunting trip, he got separated from his group and ran into a bear; he shot it but failed to kill it with the first shot, so he drew his knife to fight it since reloading would've taken too long. His group found him and shot the bear before he could face it though.
I don't know if there's any truth to that story, but it wouldn't surprise,me in the slightest.
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8:44 "Thousands of people have learned how to use computer science to bake cheese biscuits"
You've got me intrigued, Simon
The "Dead or Alive" stipulation also covered if the person in question was found dead or died in transit due to natural causes if I remember my research from high school correctly. This form of dead or alive is still honored today for (licensed) bounty hunters according to a friend who was a licensed bounty hunter in the state of Louisiana. He said he still got his bounty when he found a bail jumper who had died from an infection while in hiding. A coroner's report had to confirm the cause of death before my friend got paid but still...
Absolutely love this channel!!
Bounty hunters just go to the local sweet shop and that's where you find them.
Well it is the taste of paradise...
Yup either crooks to pass the time most are at the pub drinking or f##cking.
“Teddy Roosevelt makes every man ever feel a little less manly”
This is why his party’s namesake is my profile picture.
As someone who actually works as a bounty hunter I get asked this all the time and I have to explain that it doesn't work like that but I didn't know about the self defense thing back then so I'm glad i watched this.
I am super late on this video, but my goodness you read so damn well. That first opening got me hooked on, nice job sir :)
I can already hear Jon Bon Jovi's song about this topic
Is everyone forgetting you spin me round? Lol.
I figured if it did exist you got more by bringing them back alive
I think in some cases that was true, but you would probably know up front. In other cases I am quite sure they were hoping someone would just kill the person.
@@biteme263 I doubt that everyone loves a hanging
@@liamdoes8580 hangings were public events. the whole town turned up because there was nothing else going on
Great stuff. Thanks.
Love you bro..keep it up .. thanks
Love that thumbnail. xD And, the channel content. ^_^
Now I want to listen to the Bon Jovi song.
It's the only thing I heard all through the video
Now I want to play rdr 2 again
I don't know how y'all keep up with your schedule but keep it up!
Back in 1983, when I became a Deputy Sheriff, the Penal Code stated, "You can use any Force, up to including Deadly Force to stop a fleeing felon". Later, Federal Law stated, "You can only use Deadly Force if the felon was a danger to others". Case in point - A manic gutted a security guard at the Marina. When Deputies arrived, the suspect ran towards an apartment complex still holding the knife. Deputies shot him in the back fearful he would kill someone else at the complex. The shooting was found to be justified.
One of my favorite movies is "For A Few Dollars More".
In the West I can confirm *_YES AND IT STILL HOLDS UP TO THIS DAY_*
My Dad grew up during the Great Depression, when John Dillinger et al were running wild.
I once asked if DoA was a thing, and he said it was but it was stopped because of too many cases of mistaken identity.
I really do like this channel. I learn so many interesting things.
Who remembers The Fall Guy, starring Lee Majors?
I miss the 80s!
The good old days......
Back when TV shows were worth watching.
Great show, awesome truck
Awesome theme song sung by Mr. Majors!
I certainly do! I also remember Heather Thomas in that bikini.......oh yeah! Her pink bikini poster is one of my fondest memories of the 80's. I miss her.
What if you mixed Ernest Hemingway and Teddy Roosevelt together? The craziest, yet manliest man ever.
Thanks for this one! Very informative.
Hope you can do a similar video regarding James Bond's famed (or infamous) license to kill. Did that have any basis in reality? And if he were a real person, would 007 really be immune from any legal consequences?
Another tid bit of facts for ya, Jesse James was actually shot in the back while hanging a photo in his then home which was in Saint Joseph, MO. The house is no longer in its original location but was moved a few blocks away from where it was prior. It can still be seen and toured today in St. Joseph. Nothing like the good ol' Patee House Museum.
Teddy Roosevelt was such a badass! I immediately forgot what the video was about when they told his story 😁
Dammit! I keep telling myself I’m not gonna watch these videos anymore and he keeps hooking me in. 🤷🏼♂️
All this great content thanks your show
And Teddy Roosevelt built his own boat to catch the guys who stole his last boat that's awesome
I think the "dead or alive" bounty means that if you end up in a firefight with the person, defending yourself, you don't have to worry about getting in trouble if you have to kill them. A person may be "wanted Alive" because the law needs information from them, so if you kill them in self-defense, you wouldn't go to jail but you may get into all kinds of unofficial trouble.
James: *dies in the living room*
Me: Wait, that’s illegal.
My family has an original wanted poster of Butch Cassidy
Found it in a barn in carbon county Utah
Now that's fucking cool! When my Dad bought one of his rental properties he found a film roll of Al Capone. What we know now is the building my Dad bought was actually Al Capone's local brothel!
@@mommy2rae586 that's cool
All I got was a rock *said like Charlie Brown*
Did you get it authenticated
2:34 Also it was deemed better to stop the threat now than allow them to escape and put others at risk later
I live in Minnesota and have been to Northfield countless times. Was surprised to hear about the iconic bank robbery that took place there. Was even more surprised to see Northfield Minn. On that poster. The world really is a small place.
I recall 30 pieces of silver being paid for the identification and capture of one apocalyptic preacher from Nazareth around AD 33
Make sure you have a throw away piece and no witnesses. It was "self defense".
you don't need a throw away piece. that is just bad planning.
Dude i keep hearin more awesome things about Teddy, would have loved to meet that guy.
Some people seem to misunderstand what "Wanted dead or alive" means. It does not imply you can alter whether the person is living, just that whatever state of living the person is in doesn't change that they are wanted, and that the reward will be paid.
Can an XO relieve a CO as depicted in the feature film Crimson Tide? Please like if you want this show idea to grow.
It is a dubious subject of military law... AND at some point the courts are going to have to be convened and weigh in "after the fact" in such circumstances, because it comes down to the rare situation when the C.O. is actively (and illegally) working in disregard for his/her command.
...AND/OR... the X.O. perceives such activity to be called into account. (as in Crimson Tide)...
I was in the Navy when that movie came out... AND it asked and explored a few "dangerously real" questions regarding the shape and conditions of Chain of Command, Lawful Orders, and Conduct of Officers... We went into "lockdown" on base for two days and were specifically instructed to avoid any interactions with press over it.
SO yes, that was a painfully accurate can of worms in the research and account for military law. In every technical sense, BOTH main characters had "correct" answers for the scenario as it stood. Only their different perspectives on resolution made any relevant difference what so ever.
Legitimately, though? There were a few other 'Conduct unbefitting an officer" that led up to the worst of that movie, and it's only speculative (at best) that any command even could devolve into that violent an affair... Realistically, it shouldn't... but there's always the caveat, people are still only human, no matter the suit or wrapper.
Actually ANY officer "of the line" has the power and dubious responsibility to relieve a commanding officer of his/her duties when that C.O. is actively engaged in egregiously illegal and immoral behavior. It's weird, and I wouldn't go looking for a butter-bar to even attempt to extract an admiral from office over a blatant war-crime murder... to be honest.
BUT in the technical wording of it (at least as I was trained)... that's how it supposedly works.
Keep in mind, that we're talking about "relieving an officer of position", and NOT "pulling rank". There's an incredible amount of difference there... Relief of position, is specifically and justifiably an act of arrest... SO it can ONLY be lawfully executed when a crime has actually been committed.
This is where courts come into play. Unfortunate for everyone involved, the courts can ONLY come into play AFTER the incident. Survivors (if any) can give their accounts, and punishments can only be metered out if the criminals are also still alive.
Pulling rank, on the other hand, is simply the denial of authority from one officer to another in regards to who is "technically" junior or senior. This actually gets humorously weird because of the use of Non-judicial punishments, where rank can be reduced, effectively restarting the "time in rank" with the newly reduced rank... AND time in rank counts in a seniority "pissing contest"... by measure of being "available" for an increase in rank only after suitable time in rank has been served. There are exceptions, but those are also ALWAYS part of the legal code... In the U.S. branches of service, "The Uniform Code of Military Justice" or UCMJ... feel free to Google it, and read the clauses... it's dry, but plenty informative.
AND yes, for the record... you picked up another "like". I'd enjoy Simon's exposition on it too... just thought you'd like to catch what they (at least used to) put into actual training on the matter... and where you could look it up, yourself. ;o)
gnarth d'arkanen thanks for the detailed response. Just one question, would you have sided with the xo or co in Crimson Tide?
Nexus Six, this is something I have also been wondering ever since I saw the film, and a video on this topic would be pretty interesting.
Nexus Six I always wondered that! Loved that movie. I was in the military and this would be a good Memorial Day show idea!
@@nexussix7933,
I'd like to tell you "the XO with out a doubt"... I'd like to say that I'd be comfortable siding with the ideal that "war is the enemy in the nuclear age"... and all that.
But there's a tough truth we have to face. In the service, our position is there to ASSUME the worst... unless we have details to the contrary.
It sucks, but the CO had a point, that the mission was to fire unless otherwise commanded (the very command action message that was core to the show)... AND that means I don't honestly know really who I'd have sided with in that situation.
One of the more terrible truths of life I've come to learn is that NOTHING is impossible for those jerks who sit in Air Conditioned rooms speculating, and don't have to DO it.
SO my take-away, was that maybe we should really be hoping no boat in the service of warfare actually has to face a CO-v-XO showdown of that nature... Because speculating on how I'd react just now... it can't really take into account just how much or how well I found information and felt "in my gutt" about both sides of that equation there or then.
Does that make sense to you? ;o)
Last time I was this early people didn’t think “old town road” wouldn’t be successful.
You're english is Bad
This was an interesting video. Thank you.
I can't stop watching your videos
Yeah, short answer, if it was somehow unavoidable then dead was okay, but alive was really preferred.
Ice Karma unavoidable was common back then, unlike today, back then guns were openly carried by tons of people, ESPECIALLY fugitives with a multi thousand dollar bounty (probably worth well over 100,000 in today’s money) on their head, so back then it was more common to need to shoot them than more modern times
@@anonymousmink5027 Yep, I understand that.
Shorter answer: yes but just lie and say self defense.
I want to host drunk history and I want to do Teddy Roosevelt, because that man was badass.
Lawmen were often only paid a percentage of the fines that petty lawbreakers were made to pay. Most Lawmen had a second job to keep the wolf from the door. Going out and collecting bounties were mainly done by lawman simply because they had to support themselves.
I remember hearing years ago that a lot of the official bounties that had dead or alive had a stipulation that if brought in dead, you only got half the money.
Teddy Roosevelt stories never dissapoint lol what a consummate badass
I can imagine him simply chopping wood whilst addressing the nation in the oval office
@Dream Delirium thats a tough one, mainly because how history has treated women in the past...
Finally you wear a real beautiful watch instead of those Vincero pieces of shit (and other fashion brands) I'm proud of you!!!
@Dagwood Dogwood If you have a scooter, why drive a car?
I wear a watch, have for years. I feel lost without it and continue to look at my wrist if I'm not wearing it. I can be on my phone and still look at my watch for the time 😂
@Dagwood Dogwood Fashion. Same reason women wear jewelry.
Bounty hunter:"I'm arresting you!"
Bounty:"Ok, I'll go peacfully"
BH:"personresistingarrestsayswhat?"
B:"What?"
BH:💥💥💥🔫
"He needed killing" might be a good follow up for this. IIRC (based on, of all things, my business law class at Virginia Tech,) this originates from around Pulaski County, VA.
It depends.
(Django! The 'D' is silent).
@Mike'e Stark It was a bounty hunting movie. .... Best scene? When they shot the first sheriff in view of the townsfolk. 😁 (search for it on TH-cam)
@Mike'e Stark Well in the hilarious scene I mentioned, German guy shoots the sheriff dead on th spot, then produces the papers to prove what he did was legal.
One of the stupidest movies ever.
Lily Ann no bitch
“Teddy” (oxymoron?) Roosevelt was THE Manly Man of all Men! I know the “Teddy” bear was only given the name of “Teddy” because of T. Roosevelt, but still today T. Roosevelt’s name sounds oxymoronic given his truly manly personality and EVERYTHING he did being we more commonly know the name of “Teddy” as the name of a adorable stuffed animal toy.
Strength isn't cruelty.
The needing to have a "self defense scenario" ; This is an important point that could've been a problem in the film Dajengo Unchained.
The bounty hunter character shot a criminal who hid his identity and got himself employed as the town's sherif.
He was shot in cold blood with no resistance right in front of the entire town. If that town knew the law, they could've pressed charges that the bounty hunter did not have the self defense plea. While the Bounty hunter may have scared them away from such an interference by quoting a law against interfering with bounty hunting work, they still had a huge amount of witnesses that he broke the lack of self defense law, and the Martial was there and could've cited that law if he wanted.
But I guess it remains possible that the Martial was forgetful...
Super interesting!
Q: When did men proposing marriage on bended knee become a thing?
WTF What do you mean by built a boat and tracked them than brought them back and stayed awake during that
I hope you are happy Simon now there is a broadcast that I can't not watch
You didn't even but a link
I didn’t watched the video fully yet, because I want to see, if I’m right.
I always understood the “dead or alive” posters, that they wanted to get their hands on the person, whether they’re dead or alive (like, even if they’ve died already, they want to know they’re truly dead).
On the lawman collecting bounties, I am reminded of some stuff I learned in contract law where one was not obligated to a reward for something they were expected to do for their job, like an officer finding a missing person if that was their job could not collect the reward. Could that be relevant to this story?
Back then they most definitely were able to collect the reward as in many cases we read this is exactly what happened, sometimes even when the officer had little to do with the capture. :-)
Roosevelt is just the ultimate chad
Teddy Roosevelt: The True First Avenger
That thumbnail is the best thing I have seen all day.
The way I was told was that when such rewards were offered. Intentionally shooting the suspect regardless of their threat and especially if they were surrendering. But if you shot them in self defense while trying to arrest to them, you could still collect the bounty. While a bounty wanting someone alive you could still shoot them in self defense without legal repercussions, but you wouldn't be able to claim the bounty or would claim a much reduced bounty
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Am I the only one who thought of Young Guns? Billy kills the guy and says, "By the way--you're under arrest." 😀
Billy the Kid is a different story. Most people know that so yeah youre probably the only one
I love these videos because they are interesting.
There was a television show called “The streets of San Francisco “. A private citizen put a reward poster offering money for dead or alive. As I recall, the police had to find the person first. The person putting out the poster was actually putting out a hit on the person and would have been charged with murder for hire .