Funny how perhaps you did not see how he said in a different video how having a paint correction associate is Team #2 in the process of painting. The don't over-think it is a very over simplification of a complex issue. Painting is NOT just about the paint.
@@anonimous2451 Agreed, painting can be very complex. I take "Don't overthink it" as one being allowed to have fun while painting. I used to paint many years ago when the only choices were lacquer or enamel/acrylic enamel and the Binks Model 7 was king. I did it as a hobby and only took jobs that I wanted to have some fun. It was never about the money for me.
@@wallebo Fun in painting is when EVERYTHING goes right, which almost never happens, but, the fun is learning to deal with the "issues". Not sure about you but blowing 1000-3000 in paint to have it go horribly wrong is not fun. Just saying. When ya got skin n the game changes EVERYTHING.
@@anonimous2451 Thanks for your thoughtful reply. I no longer have a place to paint, so I have been out of the game for a very long time. Still love to learn though.
Man I just bought a whole setup and did my first ever gun paint job in a DIY booth. As soon as I started the job I realized the world of difference between aerosol and gun jobs. I would've been totally lost without your channel and the great videos you put out. I got a couple particles that landed in the clear but I should be able to sand and buff those out no problem. I seriously couldn't have done it without your videos. You had a video or videos that answered just about every question I had, showed how to fix errors like runs and particulate, and most of all reminded me to relax- afterall it's just paint! Overall I'm very stoked with how it came out- nice OEM orange peel with a smooth high gloss finish. Thanks again Brian!
My worse mishap was doing a 2tone Tahoe, top was going candy apple red.. I was reaching across that big hood and almost fell off my Harbor Freight stand and my stomach touched the fender!!!! Had to bake, sand and start over on that fender.
I adjusted my Walcom following this method and must say it’s awesome!!!!! Using Axalta clear coat G2 tha car looks factory!! I will sand and buff next and you can tell is going to be great!
Teaching all the trades in high school along with basic shop beginners level in middle school should be required along with home economics just basics I find many young people have no clue how anything works
@@bobbyelliott1911 100%. Kids should learn how to get their hands dirty and take pride in something they've done or created. One of the best feelings is learning a new skill and not having to rely on someone else to do it for you
I don't think the average person understands paint jobs have texture, then they get a little repair and start really focusing on it and see texture and think it's a bad job, especially if they have a new corvette or the like. Thanks for the video.
One of my best mistakes was when I was painting a door, blend into the fender and the other door. Pearl white. Put the wrong thing in the clear and there was no hardener in it. Had no idea til the next day it was still soft. We had to sand it all off, Prime it, and blend the quarter and hood.
Tried to paint recently with 6yr old base coat. Never opened but exposed to elements over the seasons. Opened but clogged the gun. The base was cottage cheese and even after mixing it had trouble spraying out. Later learned most likely destroyed and binders failed. Live and learn.
A quick question from the uk. Looking at getting into a career as a paint technicians. Was just wondering if uk bodyshops/dealer repair facilities provide spray guns for their paint techs? Or if the paint techs have to provide their own guns? This is for UK based bodyshops
Hi Brajan, I have a question: is the sealant the same as the wet-on-wet primer? In my country (Poland) I don't see this product, only wet-on-wet primer. Thank you 😉
You can do another coat of sealer but you can also put a coat or even two coats of blender. Extra slow I will run easy with straight black unless it’s summertime. Slow does very good for me. I have good luck turning my gun sideways and then hitting that lip that can be easy to run.
I have two local paint stores - one sells nason and the other sells ppg. I want to keep a few gallons of clear on hand, so I can just buy the base I need for the job I'm on. What affordable clear would you recommend for mid/large jobs that works basically universal? I only spray urethane, also. Thank you!!
@@PaintSociety I would be happy to find a gallon with reducer and activator for $200-$300 ideally. I tried a few cheaper brands from eBay and it was hit or miss, some great and others garbage.
Awesome video once again. Also on that bumper was it a pre primed replacement? If so do you skuff/ sand the manufacturer primer then use a 2k sealer flash then base?
You mentioned before spraying sealer about that gun being great but not for show quality/restoration project,i got interesting question 😂 What would be your go to gun for that type of job,flat jobs if i can say it like that? Great video!
I once painted the whole right side of the car and go to move it into the oven only to find out the whole left side of the car needed to he painted lol. A couple times when we use to do allot of cargo vans I didn't evan notice the whole roof needed to painted to lol. The guys get them sanded and taped so I just spray them.
Similar happened to me we needed to paint driver side door tbecause of a scratch but the passenger side door also had a scratch and what you know I sanded the passenger side door 😂
@stipq076 yeah I've had body guys do that a bunch of times. They didn't notice there was damage on both sides of the car. And the damage they repaired was worse then what was supposed to be repaired. My worse mistakes was forgetting to put hardner in the single stage paint. I think I've did it 2 or 3 times in my 25 years of painting. The way it happens is your mixing the paint and someone asks you a question or you get called to the office and forget all about it.
@@mynewhaircut yea I once put filler hardener in single stage paint It kinda dried but you could put your finger nail in the paint had to remove the paint but luckily it was only a fender taking it off was a nightmare it didn't sand easily tried using gun cleaner but than got 80 grit and just removed everything and primed
@stipq076 oh that sucks. We had to wash all the single stage off with thinner what a mess. Luckily it was old beater cars at the time. It was when I first started out painting. I didn't have computers to tell me what I did either. Everything was manual on a scale. You had just the paper with the formula on it.
i also ran into sme booth problems. i failed to check the excaust on the roof. so leaves blocked the water drainage. and wenn the collector got full, it spilled over and leaked right into the motor. gladly not big costs. but the shop got delaided. why did you not paint the tailgate loose from the car??
If you shoot paint that hits the surface too wet, does the air pressure from the overlap cause orange peel due to the air disturbing the paint from the last pass? I think I tend to go too wet with polyurethane aircraft paint because of the fear of going too dry which is very common and much worse. Anyone have any advice?
Hey Brian. I am a and have been a loyal viewer bro and have a question for you. I have the opportunity to buy a ws400 series 2 gun or a pretty good deal. I anm a diy'er but lile nice guns honestly. What are your thoughts as comparing the series 2 to the original ws400? I have the ws400 original version now and really like it but i figured upon what you say if i grabbed it up i could sell my original to offset or possibly cover the series 2 . i really appreciate bro if you could just let me know your thoughts as i know in a couple videos you say you love it but you didn't really say as to why compared to the original ws400. Thanks again bro and cant wait to hear your thoughts!!!!
So i dont want to make you spend the money, but if you did, you’d be greatly happy with it, they really refined a lot of the elements within the air cap and the spray nozzle delivering such a beautiful finish to the panel and for sure get the digital if you can because it’s a great touch.
@PaintSociety awesome!!! Thank you for that. I have a buddy that doesn't like it so he wants to sell it of course but he had never really used the series 1 gun. Now i have been using the series 1 and love it so i cant really pass up the deal honestly but i definitely wanted to know what you thought as i knew you've been using yours for a while now. Thanks a million man and i definitely gotta go for it!!! Thanks Brian and keep the content coming ....
im using a ws400 series1 the fan was thick on the top n bottom leaving the center less fluid.. what can i do? 1 turn off full fan, 1 turn off full fluid, 22psi @sg
Damn, I knew I was right when I told my cousin that between 25-30 psi is the right pressure when spraying clear coat, not 35-40, lol, because the last two jobs I've done for him, the clear coat looked weird, like not shiny, not sure how to explain it because I used 40 psi, I doubted too much when I was trying to remember what I learned years ago at the trade school, I should start ignoring him when it comes to painting...
Aren't you full time paint job now ? I though you left the school. To be honest, don't leave the school. This is one of the most noble profession. I'm teacher to , but in high school.
im curious, being in a production shop like yours, what all do YOU have to pay for besides your guns? what are some of the things the shop wont buy for you?
If you’re fixing dozens and dozens of snowmobile, hoods I’m doing bodywork since the 70s I guarantee I can fix it trunk and it would never crack again when I used to do rebillers just so we always would have brand new cars to drive cheep I would fix stuff 10 times worse than that.
@PaintSociety Weird, never had a come back,and I'm not priming,and sanding,then sealing a new oem bumper. Knock off the shine,and call it a day without breaking through every edge causing a need to prime.
Don't overthink it. Best advice ever.
Funny how perhaps you did not see how he said in a different video how having a paint correction associate is Team #2 in the process of painting. The don't over-think it is a very over simplification of a complex issue. Painting is NOT just about the paint.
@@anonimous2451 Agreed, painting can be very complex. I take "Don't overthink it" as one being allowed to have fun while painting. I used to paint many years ago when the only choices were lacquer or enamel/acrylic enamel and the Binks Model 7 was king. I did it as a hobby and only took jobs that I wanted to have some fun. It was never about the money for me.
@@wallebo Fun in painting is when EVERYTHING goes right, which almost never happens, but, the fun is learning to deal with the "issues". Not sure about you but blowing 1000-3000 in paint to have it go horribly wrong is not fun. Just saying. When ya got skin n the game changes EVERYTHING.
@@anonimous2451 Thanks for your thoughtful reply. I no longer have a place to paint, so I have been out of the game for a very long time. Still love to learn though.
Man I just bought a whole setup and did my first ever gun paint job in a DIY booth. As soon as I started the job I realized the world of difference between aerosol and gun jobs. I would've been totally lost without your channel and the great videos you put out. I got a couple particles that landed in the clear but I should be able to sand and buff those out no problem. I seriously couldn't have done it without your videos. You had a video or videos that answered just about every question I had, showed how to fix errors like runs and particulate, and most of all reminded me to relax- afterall it's just paint! Overall I'm very stoked with how it came out- nice OEM orange peel with a smooth high gloss finish. Thanks again Brian!
We use maroon scotchbrite so much where I work I use that as my hand pad. Love it!
one of fav channels...i wish i could find a someone who sprays satin clear coat on youtube🤷🏾♂️
My worse mishap was doing a 2tone Tahoe, top was going candy apple red.. I was reaching across that big hood and almost fell off my Harbor Freight stand and my stomach touched the fender!!!! Had to bake, sand and start over on that fender.
Happens to us all sometimes. Ugh.
The best clear coat video I've ever seen. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
I adjusted my Walcom following this method and must say it’s awesome!!!!! Using Axalta clear coat G2 tha car looks factory!! I will sand and buff next and you can tell is going to be great!
That’s great to hear! It’s all about consistency and practice!
It'd be great if they brought back Auto Shop to all high schools.
You'd be an excellent body and paint instructor.
That’s a great idea.
Teaching all the trades in high school along with basic shop beginners level in middle school should be required along with home economics just basics I find many young people have no clue how anything works
@@bobbyelliott1911 100%. Kids should learn how to get their hands dirty and take pride in something they've done or created. One of the best feelings is learning a new skill and not having to rely on someone else to do it for you
Great video,s , im learning so much as a diy painter in my shed .
GFS guys service is top notch! Tracy down here in the TN market is phenomenal!
They have some of the best customer service I hear
Today you’d be voted best teacher! lol keep it up! Good lessons for all professionals and diy!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I don't think the average person understands paint jobs have texture, then they get a little repair and start really focusing on it and see texture and think it's a bad job, especially if they have a new corvette or the like. Thanks for the video.
Great episode here! Lots of usable tips and tricks! Thanks again Brian 🌹
Thanks, glad you liked it!
One of my best mistakes was when I was painting a door, blend into the fender and the other door. Pearl white. Put the wrong thing in the clear and there was no hardener in it. Had no idea til the next day it was still soft. We had to sand it all off,
Prime it, and blend the quarter and hood.
Oh no!!!!
Great stuff, as usual. 👍👍
I appreciate it!
Thanks you brian
Can you next time show me how you mix sikkens please :)
Great tips as all ways
I cannot set it to full fluid and spray partial trigger. I have to turn in fluid knob a certain amount so the trigger has a stop.
You dont need a safety. Keep it wide open 😀😀😀
Tried to paint recently with 6yr old base coat. Never opened but exposed to elements over the seasons. Opened but clogged the gun. The base was cottage cheese and even after mixing it had trouble spraying out. Later learned most likely destroyed and binders failed. Live and learn.
Yeah. You have to watch out for that.
A quick question from the uk. Looking at getting into a career as a paint technicians. Was just wondering if uk bodyshops/dealer repair facilities provide spray guns for their paint techs? Or if the paint techs have to provide their own guns? This is for UK based bodyshops
Hey Brian, love your channel!!! I had a question about cfm. Does not having the required cfm for the paint gun affect how it performs.
Great video. Temp and humidity inside the booth?
Did you paint the back side earlier before installing the deck lid?
There is no backside. Watch the beginning of the video
@@PaintSociety I meant the pinch edge. I thought I saw it was in primer. I'm still watching, so I'll go back. Thanks
Hi Brajan, I have a question: is the sealant the same as the wet-on-wet primer? In my country (Poland) I don't see this product, only wet-on-wet primer. Thank you 😉
It is the same
Brian,
What do you mean by 400 grit the paint will eat into the plastic? Do you mean the primer isn't thick enough?
On aftermarket yea
You can do another coat of sealer but you can also put a coat or even two coats of blender. Extra slow I will run easy with straight black unless it’s summertime. Slow does very good for me. I have good luck turning my gun sideways and then hitting that lip that can be easy to run.
That is a great tip!
Perfect job
You can try upscaling your HD to 4k so youtube doesn't compress it so much. I think more detail and less smearing to the video will happen that way
Hey Ryan. I've noticed that spraying too much clear without eye protection makes my vision blurry. Thought I d mention
Yeah, I was dying, because my full face respirator broke right before the job
Great content as always! Im curious do you use anything to keep overspray off your camera lens
Nope! Just wipe it with thinner
Brian what are your thoughts on the WS 400 in 1.2 vs 1,3? I have better results with Sata 1.2 versus 1.3 just for reference.
27:26 you mention the overspray. Should you not be wearing a full face respirator for safety?
Yes i should
Damn you make long days love the channel man. Hope I can use what you thought me soon
Every day is a great day, though, I come on here on my TH-cam make videos and help people, and that makes me happy
@PaintSociety and please keep doing it
I have two local paint stores - one sells nason and the other sells ppg.
I want to keep a few gallons of clear on hand, so I can just buy the base I need for the job I'm on.
What affordable clear would you recommend for mid/large jobs that works basically universal?
I only spray urethane, also.
Thank you!!
Whats affordable to you? Nason has decent clears for the price or shopline in ppg
@@PaintSociety I would be happy to find a gallon with reducer and activator for $200-$300 ideally. I tried a few cheaper brands from eBay and it was hit or miss, some great and others garbage.
Roberlo is a good choice they have a wide variety of products and they all work well and they are reasonably priced
This may be a question answered a ton of times but what is the longest time you can wait between clear coats?
Awesome video once again. Also on that bumper was it a pre primed replacement? If so do you skuff/ sand the manufacturer primer then use a 2k sealer flash then base?
Pre primered oem. Treat same as tailgate
Seal all new parts
What do you recommend for air psi on a lvlp gun for clear?
I wish to have a new model iwata at my work, man must be a nice gun
Door handles, trim moulding, mirrors you name it, I've missed it.😂
You mentioned before spraying sealer about that gun being great but not for show quality/restoration project,i got interesting question 😂
What would be your go to gun for that type of job,flat jobs if i can say it like that?
Great video!
Iwata series 2
Hey Brian, does your shop use High Flow air fittings? If so, how does that affect the air settings?
Thanks for the great content too
Yes we do
@@PaintSociety thanks boss
Do you sell those Colad lab coats?
It's really hard to get them in Canada.
Dublagem automática do youtune está me ajudando a assistir seus vídeos. Sou do Brasil. Muito bom ver os trabalhos feitos aí com você
always great content... BTW the title has a typo in it, says "fOrange Peel"
Missed that one! Ty!!
no problem, just trying to help out my fellow TH-camrs
I want to see you make a video on using flake king metal flake gun and massive 0.025 flake.
What's your settings on the series 1
i yusd wrong trimer on bodi praimer all paint fel of after 1 month det was fun
I once painted the whole right side of the car and go to move it into the oven only to find out the whole left side of the car needed to he painted lol. A couple times when we use to do allot of cargo vans I didn't evan notice the whole roof needed to painted to lol. The guys get them sanded and taped so I just spray them.
Similar happened to me we needed to paint driver side door tbecause of a scratch but the passenger side door also had a scratch and what you know I sanded the passenger side door 😂
@stipq076 yeah I've had body guys do that a bunch of times. They didn't notice there was damage on both sides of the car. And the damage they repaired was worse then what was supposed to be repaired. My worse mistakes was forgetting to put hardner in the single stage paint. I think I've did it 2 or 3 times in my 25 years of painting. The way it happens is your mixing the paint and someone asks you a question or you get called to the office and forget all about it.
@@mynewhaircut yea I once put filler hardener in single stage paint It kinda dried but you could put your finger nail in the paint had to remove the paint but luckily it was only a fender taking it off was a nightmare it didn't sand easily tried using gun cleaner but than got 80 grit and just removed everything and primed
@stipq076 oh that sucks. We had to wash all the single stage off with thinner what a mess. Luckily it was old beater cars at the time. It was when I first started out painting. I didn't have computers to tell me what I did either. Everything was manual on a scale. You had just the paper with the formula on it.
Brian any tips why everytime i spray wet on wet it makes my jobs real peely and chunky...
Try a 1.4 fluid tip and open up the fluid
Add more reducer maybe 10% and try leaving it 5 more minutes before applying base
You ran something that looked like a heat gun over the base coat, (before the final base coat). What was that?
Static gun
@, Thank you
i also ran into sme booth problems. i failed to check the excaust on the roof. so leaves blocked the water drainage. and wenn the collector got full, it spilled over and leaked right into the motor. gladly not big costs. but the shop got delaided. why did you not paint the tailgate loose from the car??
We test fit it for proper fitment and at that point it was too much of a pain to take back off.
If you shoot paint that hits the surface too wet, does the air pressure from the overlap cause orange peel due to the air disturbing the paint from the last pass? I think I tend to go too wet with polyurethane aircraft paint because of the fear of going too dry which is very common and much worse. Anyone have any advice?
No, the air pushing on wet paint will not cause orange peel, make sure you’re running the paint gun wide open
The cause of orange peel is big drops. Look at the edge of the spray pattern. It should be a mist with no big drops.
I knew his name was Juan before you said it 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂❤
I feel like when I spray I cant see the paint or clear coat laying down like I can in these videos..idk if my mask just isn't clear enough or what
Look at it from the side angle
I once forgot to cut the plastic around a door on a car i was painting painted the 1/4 but not the door because it was still covered lol
I know what you mean
Hey Brian. I am a and have been a loyal viewer bro and have a question for you. I have the opportunity to buy a ws400 series 2 gun or a pretty good deal. I anm a diy'er but lile nice guns honestly. What are your thoughts as comparing the series 2 to the original ws400? I have the ws400 original version now and really like it but i figured upon what you say if i grabbed it up i could sell my original to offset or possibly cover the series 2 . i really appreciate bro if you could just let me know your thoughts as i know in a couple videos you say you love it but you didn't really say as to why compared to the original ws400. Thanks again bro and cant wait to hear your thoughts!!!!
So i dont want to make you spend the money, but if you did, you’d be greatly happy with it, they really refined a lot of the elements within the air cap and the spray nozzle delivering such a beautiful finish to the panel and for sure get the digital if you can because it’s a great touch.
@PaintSociety awesome!!! Thank you for that. I have a buddy that doesn't like it so he wants to sell it of course but he had never really used the series 1 gun. Now i have been using the series 1 and love it so i cant really pass up the deal honestly but i definitely wanted to know what you thought as i knew you've been using yours for a while now. Thanks a million man and i definitely gotta go for it!!! Thanks Brian and keep the content coming ....
im using a ws400 series1 the fan was thick on the top n bottom leaving the center less fluid.. what can i do? 1 turn off full fan, 1 turn off full fluid, 22psi @sg
Try turning in the fan knob until you get the pattern you want.
Hey brian are you a combination tech im confused what you do at work. seems like your a combo tech
I might be mistaken but i think he is. In his earlier videos he did alot of body work and prep work in the videos
Yea those Honda plastics never sand like any of the others haha!
Can I use sprayway glass cleaner on raw plastic?
Yep
Windex
Don't forget to do the top!!
Hahaha!!
Aw it's not GoPro 😒... just kidding.... thanks for sharing the tips
I spray boats currently in a gfs booth. Their industrial booths are not as nice as the automotive booths.
Worse mishap, I didn't make sure to wash the car between a wet sand and then running clear over base. Still bugs me.
Damn, I knew I was right when I told my cousin that between 25-30 psi is the right pressure when spraying clear coat, not 35-40, lol, because the last two jobs I've done for him, the clear coat looked weird, like not shiny, not sure how to explain it because I used 40 psi, I doubted too much when I was trying to remember what I learned years ago at the trade school, I should start ignoring him when it comes to painting...
Too much air. Its blowing out the fluid and drying it
The top right of the trunk seemed little foggy. Like didn't get enough clear .
Smooth. Maybe your monitor
Lol, naah.. or lighting.
Why put paper on the window ?
The five P’s.
Proper
Preparation
Prepares for
Perfect
Performance
Aren't you full time paint job now ? I though you left the school. To be honest, don't leave the school. This is one of the most noble profession. I'm teacher to , but in high school.
No. I never left school. 15 more years and i get my full pension in the county. Painting is just side hustle
@@PaintSociety great to hear :)
im curious, being in a production shop like yours, what all do YOU have to pay for besides your guns? what are some of the things the shop wont buy for you?
All the tools, but none of the material
so u dont have to fully pull the trigger
I've had more than a couple of jobs I forgot to tack before spraying 😅 ope, that ain't good
So you are a school teacher and a paintshop owner?
Yes
S2 IS IT FASTER I NEED FASTER CLEAR GUNNNN
Its not fast. Its elegant
Sagolo is a work horse and throws clear well
Fg is
Never thought you will ever start a video by saying Asalamu Aleykum with Hindu accent LOL
Wa aleykum a salam my Muslim brother!
You said your vision is decreasing ,try some eye protection
I have! It broke before the video. Can you believe that
Why didn't you just repair the crack in place it's an easy pic with a plastic weld or even just an soldering gun ????
I explained in the video
Ever have a job completely die back? I don’t get much die back on boats
Yes at
Home it happens alot
@ that just because the products or the environment?
Sounds like you might be sick. You look tired in this video, hope you’re doing well!
That’s morning voice 😀😀
If you’re fixing dozens and dozens of snowmobile, hoods I’m doing bodywork since the 70s I guarantee I can fix it trunk and it would never crack again when I used to do rebillers just so we always would have brand new cars to drive cheep I would fix stuff 10 times worse than that.
Are you a teacher or painter or both???
Both. I work 3 jobs with youtube. My schedule is packed from morning till night.
@@PaintSocietywith the family you pretty much have 4 jobs lol
Might be a stupid question, do you teacher spray painting or something completely different 😊
400??? Dafuk, are you all doing over there? 600-1000,then a red scotch brite.
Okay 😂 try that on oem on primer🤣🤣🤣 600-1000 then use red scotch which is equivalent to 400 grit🤣🤣
@PaintSociety Weird, never had a come back,and I'm not priming,and sanding,then sealing a new oem bumper.
Knock off the shine,and call it a day without breaking through every edge causing a need to prime.
Unless,you like to work yourself to death,and run up your materials bill due to incompetence,but nice flex with the emoji. 🤑
@ you the boss 😀
Thats insane and what a waist right... Not that i would complain in your shoes.. more business 😂
Very good contents but less talk may be better.