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Thanks for the review of the XT2. Since you mentioned the split keyboard issues on the XT, if you tap the little globe icon in the lower right when in keyboard view (upper right in split-screen), you can toggle between split keyboard and single screen. I'll bet the XT2 does the same thing as I see the globe icon on the new interface as well. Update: saw you corrected that from when you originally posted yesterday!😉
Nice tip!
Thanks for the tip. Never tried tapping that lil globe.@@cruisemansgarage
Regarding the keyboard, there if you go into settings you can make the XT1 display the entire keyboard.
Yes I was going to say that!
I just bought the Zumo XT2 and took a two day 720 mike trip and love it. 9 hours each day and zero issues at all. Love it.
Nice in-depth product review, as always. Based on your review I bought an XT1 a year ago, and watched your Basecamp tutorials. I've been very pleased with the XT1. Basecamp doesn't seem to be as efficient as Google Maps in constucting routes, so I construct the route in Google first, then "force" Basecamp to plot the same route, by inserting waypoints (sometimes latitude/longitude coordinates to create markers from Google). Then I use the cool method that you describe in this video and your tutorial in which you create separate routes for each day : Day 1, Day 2, etc. Then I export the routes to my XT1 and it works great ! The new features of the XT2, like the bigger/brighter screen, USB C port, etc are nice, and I would certainly choose it over the XT1 , BUT for me personally, those features are not significant enough to justify the cost of upgrading to the XT2. Thanks again for the review
Love my XT1. Just used it on my recent 1500 mile trip to VA from NJ.
I'll also mention that the original XT cradle has a power supply in the cord that steps the motorcycle 12V power down to 5V (USB voltage) for the XT. The cradle for the XT2 does not have that step down power supply, and accepts the 12V power from wherever you have it tapped into. Other sites have confirmed that the 12V cradle will charge the Zumo XT2 while riding and in operation, but the XT cradle may not keep up. Maybe that was the cause of your initial charging problems?
THAT is very interesting and I will research that further. Good to know.
As tested on my own units: older cradle does charge XT2 and keep it happy. Not other way around.
Thank you for the review. In my opinion the important thing on any navigator is, how to change a route spontanly ( because of the weather or something else) for example at the morning in the hotel at the breakfast - without having a laptop and software etc...
Just back from a two week, 5,500km ride using the XT2 to navigate outback Australia, and I can report with conviction, the XT2 is buggy and unreliable. The touch screen constantly stopped working, often requiring repeated hard resets, to work, if it all. Fortunately a mate had his Montana to get us out of remote spot. For reference, the XT2 was powered directly from the battery on a DR650 running the latest software updates.
Wow. Sorry to hear this.
That sucks ! I was exactly planning to get XT2 for the dr650 setup. Looks like I have to wait out till Garmin sorts out issues with XT2 !
The Garmin XT is not compatioble with the XT2 mount if you plan to sell the XT. Charging the XT2 takes for ever. The XT2 needs to be on and in standby to charge with the USB cable.
On the XT1 the keyboard can be flipped from split screen to single screen.
The Connector on the XT1 is a USB Mini - B Thanks for the review. The keyboard issue would frustrate me on the XT1. Can you explore more why Basecamp can't be used for routing on the XT2? I've got hundreds of Basecamp routes and am quite proficient in its use.
I plan to do a video on how to transfer Basecamp files to the XT2. Garmin wants you to use their new web-based app EXPLORE, but I have been struggling with it.
Hello Cruiseman,
I really enjoyed your review of the Zumo XT2! Thanks for the updates on its features over the now known as the XT1. I recently purchased the XT1 and can relate to all the differences you pointed out in your video, so I too will be upgrading to the new XT2, if for nothing more than the whole keyboard (qwerty)😂!! Thanks again.
Loyal.
You can have full keyboard on the 1 as you’ll have seen above (commented here just in case you missed it) cheers
I don't know why your keyboard is like that on the XT1. Mine is like the XT2. Maybe you have to change the settings. If I was in the market for a new one I would go to the XT2, but there's no reason to buy one with my XT1 working just fine.
I watched this video a couple of days ago good video
Thank you man!!!! U did a very easy to u understand video on this XT2… am from Singapore and looking to explore Asia in the beginning of 2024… it’s very helpful and already ordered a xt2 from Amazon. Sadly back home we don’t hv an agent for Garmin gps SYS… just this watches…
On the XT all you have to do is press the globe icon and you get a full Key board.
You can connect to base camp and download your tracks - It works on my Mac....also it will not charge fully on the old charger for the XT...its a great unit once you figure it out - much better than the first Zumo...
I just can't get away from paper maps. I do get lost a lot, but, to me, that is part of the enjoyment/adventure of the ride.
I had a Garmin on my wing, it worked well, but eventually took it off never to be used again. Better to have a newer radar detector.
I am wondering if you could measure both XT's and provide the physical dimensions of each model. Thanks for the review!
Very nice video. I didn't realize they had an XT2. I have the XT and I've enjoyed having it so much. I despise built in Navigation systems in vehicles and Motorcycle's, their always clunky.
Not enough upgrades for me to trade up to XT2
There are more new features than what I mentioned, I just hit the most obvious ones. The bigger and brighter screen is nice.
Your initial review of the Zumo XT convinced me to purchase before my 4 Corners ride last year. It was the perfect companion.
Waiting for your follow-up XT-2 review to decide if an upgrade is necessary.
Why not use your phone for your GPS?
Hey CM, I started watching this video yesterday. Had to stop for a few minutes and came back to finish watching and it was gone, not even in my history. Just confirming, to prove to my wife I’m not going senile (yet). 😂
No, you are not there yet. I had to take down the video to fix some technical issues and re-upload the video.
Off Topic: The Garmin Nav5 in the BMW motorcycles is a $900 option. They have way too many issues with ghost pressing on the screen, not charging, not responding, etc.
At least, they stand behind their products for replacement / repair / refurbished units.
It only takes 2 screens on the XT1 for a keyboard? The Nav5 takes several...
Day 2 of ownership of my XT2 it died. It went through a series “lost satellite” messages and random “updating software” messages while cruising at 70 mph. After shutting it down with the power switch it would not power up. The online help suggested holding the power button for 40 seconds. It came back on and seemed normal for a few weeks. I went on an ADV ride and it was back to its old rebooting tricks😡.
I spoke to Garmin on the phone. I begged them to send me an XT in exchange for the XT2. Instead I was told that it’s a known software glitch and was walked through the factory reset. I was also told to NOT install any updates until I hear from them. It worked just fine.
A few weeks later they said to update it. I did and it died again😡 Only once but that’s once too many.
At this point I would gladly swap the XT2 for an XT. I’m sure they’ll get the bugs worked out in a year or two but in the meantime I don’t recommend the XT2. You will become a beta tester.
Hmmm. Not good. I had to send my first one back for a replacement too.
I read the old xt cradle charges at a lower voltage and is slower.
The keyboard on the XT1 is all on one screen. You have to go into the settings to set that. Just little help. I have the XT 1.
Hey, I have a Zumo Xt, and I have a full, Keyboard. I just selected, Settings, Language & Keyboard, Keyboard Language, American English QWERTY. And when I do a research on Where to, I have a full Keyboard.
I hope this comment will be helpfull for you and other users.
Did it ever feel like the wind was going to blow it up?
I've used Garmin in many aircraft I've owned and a couple of motorcycles. I got turned off to Garmin when I upgraded databases on two motorcycle gps units only to be told the database would not fit on my unit after purchase.
I switched to TomTom Rider at that point. It was a little frustrating at first learning a new system but will never go back. TomTom has WiFi capability and connects to your phone App
for traffic avoidance (much like Google Maps) which has been very helpful on long trips. Does Garmin have Live Traffic / Road Closure Avoidance ??
There have been a number of times I'm in the middle of nowhere and hit a road closure and TomTom has already identified the closure and calculated an alternative route.
The Garmin Zumo XT I use does that if you want to be warned of traffic issues. It uses it's connection with the mobile phone to access the data from the Internet. Guess it's doing that via the Drive app on the mobile.
Have watched many of your videos. Find your school teacher style ok, but you should do more homework before making reviews. From the videos watched, you often state incorrect info. This one in particular was almost comical that you had not even set the thing up before trying to use it on camera. Then you state the full screen keyboard as being "worthy of the extra $100" when the old XT also has a full screen keyboard exactly like the XT2. (It is just a matter of setting the option of "Full or Split Screen" up in your specs before using!)
There are (too many) people that complain when a reviewer doesn't show themselves removing the shrink wrap and unboxing.
I guess reviewers could fake it with editing and make everyone happy.
You do have the full screen option on the XT1, but I have found it difficult to use with gloves on because the buttons are so small. And, I have pretty small hands.
I agree this review was terrible imo. He should have read the new manual first and gone through all the settings, like bluetooth volume, at his desk before testing it on the road. Also, he makes alot of mental errors like turning the wrong way or ignoring what the Garmin says to do. I base this on not just this video but many of his recent ones. Probably should hang up the helmet for good and go fishing.
I think Cruiseman does many things like the everyday person - makes the mistake like we do, so his errors would be ours and we learn from him. I have only 1 friend who completely reads the entire manuals prior to using out of the box, he is in the minority! I do believe Cruiseman is challenged by GPS’s (who isn’t) as I’m able to use the GoldWing gps and have only minor issues with it - our fearless leader gave up on it almost immediately. I will miss the Honda Trip planner as it was great for small day rides (simple).
@@moorgoon Who hasn't ignored, or could not followed the GPS and require a re-route? Why is there such a thing?
Just press the globe icon on both XT1 & XT2 to swap between split/full keyboard mode lol
I’m afraid the price doesn’t make me super excited
Agreed with the keyboard.. alone that is worth the upgrade,, I have the BMW Nav6 which is a rebranded Zumo XT1, and has that annoying split keyboard... Thank you for the comparison-
When searching with the XT, hit the globe icon and the entire keyboard will be on one screen.
Great and informative video Mr Cruisman. I was researching to purchase a Garmin GPS and you pretty much sold me, I do have one burning question that I've been looking around for a concise Ans on, I hope you can help; Does the XT2 come with maps installed or do you have to pay for maps AND is there a charge for updates. I'm a fellow Texan living in the DFW area and travel pretty much all over the US but plan to venture out very soon and will also be renting to ride over in SW Asia. Thanks again for a great video, I look forwards to hearing back from you.
I'll wait for a video where the rider has used this device before. TD
Strangely I've had that same "woww I didn't leave it on, why did it's battery get depleted?" issue twice in the last two month.
On the first issue, I don't know how long it was fully empty. At first I even thought the device was broken.
Last week I noticed that my mobile notifications somehow echoed around somewhere. I didn't take it seriously cause I was tired.
Only later, by chance, noticed a warmness when I was looking for something inside my backpack.
The Zumo XT was on, inside its hardcase and it was burning hot.
So It was Zumo XT, repeating the mobile phone's notifications :)
Anyways, in that particular hardcase the device never did turn itself on, not once.
Of course having your battery depleted and especially, leaving it fully empty for a long time is never a good practice for the battery life.
Really strange... I'm seriously beginning to question applying the firmware updates lately...
By the way. I do not agree with you, on the change of the positioning of the usb port.
The new positioning doesn't allow the device to stay upright on the table when connected to the computer / or being charged.
And the Micro SD slot? How many times did you remove a card from that slot? I only installed one when I bought the unit. And didn't even remove the lid once.
Fighting the fight is no longer an option. One cannot stick it to the man anymore. But one can find one's own way.
I always trusted Zumo XT cause it was meant for one thing. I needed it to be dependable. I paid the device to be a dependable assistant to me while I was on the ride.
And time has proven me wrong. Many times now. A device that's only job is to navigate, should not have put me to wrong destinations. All my waypoints made before a certain date shows a certain displacement. Has the earth changed its location under the GPS satellites? Firmware updates are meant to fix things. I'm a computer engineer. I know how this game is run.
I'm already on the lookout for buying a water resistant mobile phone in order to move to Android apps as navigation.
The Garmin Zumo XT is still being sold for 1000 USD in where I live. Who knows how much XT2 is going to be sold for.
I can buy an industrial Samsung Xcover Pro for 300 USD.
It won't need the problematic Drive / Thread apps on another mobile device.
Yes many times Drive app doesn't work properly and it doesn't event let me share destinations from other apps now. Also it also causes problems with other applications pairing with their bluetooth devices.
It won't cut off my music for navigation instructions as Zumo XT does. It won't have noticable delays when talking on the phone.
And most certainly it probaly won't suspiciously and unexpectedly die after a firmware update.
All the maps (paid / or free) are always up-to-date.
There're several widely used apps for motorcycle navigation on the "fully deployed" Android.
And all the software and technology will be up-to-date most importantly.
And finally I won't be paying premium for laggy 4-year-old hardware.
LOL, I put an XT2 on my new Spyder RTL 22. It's purpose is to provide phone support in place of the dismal support the BRP thinks it has. I did load the satellite maps and sorta looks like google maps.
I’ve used a Garmin for several years. And I’ve not trusted it a few times to my detriment.
Nice review. I have an old Zumo 550 and started with MapSource but am now forced to use Basecamp. I see basecamp as a downgrade from a design perspective. It will be interesting to see what you say about using Bascamp vs whatever they want you to use now. For me a PC app to plan my trips and routes is a must. I now have a Gramin DriveSmart 86 for my car. The interface look very similar to your XT1
I loved the Zumo 550. Went all over the country with it.
I wonder if Garmin will (can?) ever put Apple CarPlay on a Zumo? That would be game changer for the majority of bikes that don't have the feature.
I too have wondered why someone does not have a Carplay screen for a motorcycle.
@@cruisemansgarage Gold Wing has Carplay and Android Auto compatibility (at least the 2022/23 models). Also found an article that claims that 2018 Gold Wing was the first in the world to offer CarPlay integration but that might have been an extra I suppose. Also, Honda offers it for Africa Twins and NT1100. Harleys and Indians offer it too.
@@cruisemansgarage They are available.
hi from Kevin, good run down on the XT2, but i wanted a bigger screen so I picked up a Garmin camper with its big 7inch screen, But on the down side its not water proof so I turn on my XT1. the big screen as the normal Garmin things with the added the odd sharp bends and steep inclines notification, but not good for off road, as I ride a CRF1000l which I will never go off road, as I no longer bounce anymore. on a week ride up to Scotland it was great. and i took in all the single track roads as much as I could Now i see other makes of bike GPSs now coming on to the market Garmin will have to either make better off road maps to catch up with the compotation, yours kevin
I noticed in your amazon link a -.17% off price. Wonder how long this is for?
My new XT2 touchscreen fails to register any touches. Garmin support haven't responded once after a week. I'm another country far from home carrying an expensive brick that was supposed to guide me on my offroad trails... The latest update hasn't solved the issue either.
Simple question, if I want to go from point A to point B, can I specify that I want US or State Routes with no Expressway travel?
I agree with you.. the XT2 seems much better. I use waze but otherwise this would be my first pick! Ride Safe.
I think the Tread app is another reason to opt for the XT2. Tread is not compatible with the XT. I just used Tread to plan a 6 day ride. I saved each day's rice in Tread and it is seamlesslessly in the XT2 . I use Explore in the XT2 to choose each day's ride. My Android stays in my pocket when I ride, and I rely on the Garmin. It works great for playing music. I have it paired to my Schuberth C5 with the SC2 communication system. The SC2 utilizes voice commands.
It's taken Garmin a long long time to up date is power/download connectors "wonder why"
I own an XT, but you can’t use the XT2 on my R1200RT, as it’s too big of a unit to fit on the bike
Why do you need a Garmin sir? The goldwing has CarPlay ? Or has it not?
On the XT2 do you NEED to add off road maps? the device won't recognize all the nearby forest service roads.
love the quality and look of this video, mind expounding on what equipment you used to record it?
I use a GoPro Hero 10 Black and an Insta360 X3
Pretty sure you can switch the keyboard to qwerty single on the xt 1.
Yes, you can. But the keys are smaller and harder to press with gloves on.
nice job, thx!
Thanks for the XT2 review. I have the XT1 and the keyboard split is a pain; I will be upgrading to the XT2. I'm glad Garmin moved the charging port and micro sd slot to the bottom. For me, Garmin changing to the Type C port and the change to the micro sd slot are just bonuses. Prayers Flying for safe travels
You can click the globe icon to switch to full keyboard mode lol.
Just upgraded to the Garmin XT2 from the original XT. As a quick first observation, I didn’t see the History Channel points of interest icon on the XT2 that was on the XT. Please tell me I just missed it and it’s there. I really liked that feature. I’ll look again! 😉
i see in the video one shot of the interior of your glove box. do you keep your phone in there accessing apple car play? asking because i've never seen you drill a hole in the glove box to extend the goldwing usb1 to the handlebars. i did it recently and really like having access to the phone outside the box
Was the cable to the mount pre-installed? I have an earlier version of the xt and the cable they recently sent me does not fit into the mount.
That was painful watching you struggle with that interface...
Hi Cruiseman. I have the same setup as you. Sena headset, Carlinkit wireless CarPlay, 2024 Honda Goldwing Tour DCT. I want to get this X2 Zumo from Garmin. I am curious. Are you able to pair all this up with your phone using the Carlinkit and wireless CarPlay with your zumo? What do you pair your zumo to? The bike or the phone? Or both? Any advise would be appreciated.
The Carlinkit is paired to your phone. Do not pair the phone to your Goldwing or the Zumo. Pair the Sena to the Goldwing using Mobile Phone Pairing and to the Zumo using GPS pairing.
Can you use this anywhere in the world? Thanks, Tokyo
What makes this better than the drivesmart series? Weather map and history app on drivesmart..... Will this bluetooth to my radio?
It will not BT to your radio, but will to your BT headset.
mini usb!
RTFM
oops! Somebody is giving a review without reading the manual!
That's why we call it, FIRST IMPRESSION.
In the process of buying a '23 dct. I'll really dumb this whole thing down with this question...but I take it you have learned that the mapping system on the bike is not sufficient...?
The Nav on the bike is better suited for car use, not a motorcycle. It is difficult to plan multi-day rides and getting routes loaded into it is difficult.
Thank you for the time to respond CM.
Thanks because of your review i purchased it through your amazon site but wonder if i need to buy a ram mount you mentioned seoarate fir my 2018 goldwing or does the one supplied work as well ?
I used the supplied one, but with the left side RAM mount for the Goldwing. amzn.to/3D2dcgV
Where can I find the lock plate for my garmin zumo?ty Cruiseman
Moto Pumps www.motopumps.com/shop/zumo-xt-security-lock?gclid=CjwKCAjwwb6lBhBJEiwAbuVUSvLfPzNjZC5115gtzWMQpCVAYfUt-WQ_HMGlkh1dZnFGAjwCmrdmVxoC35gQAvD_BwE
Not a great review because you are making commission from sales 😢. You did not mention any great functions off road ect that any other basic sat navigation can do. All sat navs have crap batteries which won't change until people complain. Often the chip set is very poor like on the tom tom slower than a zx spectrum. I really want a motorbike sat Nat but nothing is easy like Google maps.
Do I have to hard wire it or can I use the USB port on the bike ?
I am going to check on that. I am not sure.
Have you tried the new Garmin Drive app? I’m seems to have a lot of great features. Not sure if it was intended to replace Base Camp or not.
Please next time prepare your video. Thanks
Probably should have done a little more reading before making this video.
Mine lasted three weeks and then broke
Wow. I have been hearing similar stories. What's up?
Hell of video--was considering the XT2, now I'm not so sure. You like the interface, I think it's clunky and cartoonish. Yes there are some helpful features, but they're awkward to get to and take time to learn. For all of the just plain get from me from A to B, Google maps works better and looks better. I've used top of the line Gamin GPSs and Rand McNally's side by side on thousand plus mile trips and while the Rand doesn't have the depth of features, the ones you really need, and especially the one you need NOW, are much easier and faster to get to (as opposed to digging down into a layered menu system). Let's stop kidding ourselves about User Interfaces too--our phones have the best ones and ALL of the GPS interfaces simply don't compare in terms of useability/intuitiveness--they're not even close. Until they catch up with Phone interfaces, using them is a sacrifice. Two other points I picked up from watch your excellent video: so glad I bought a BMW and twice as glad I left Texas 9 years ago!!!
What's wrong w/ Texas?
A CVO on an electric bike. lol!
This guy does not know how to use the device. Why didn't he read the manual ? Keyboard layout on the XT1, just turn o. QWERTY KEYBOARD.
GPS navigation, no thanks, plenty of signage about and it forces one to be on the lookout.
Too much tech and wasted time. I use paper maps and dead reckoning and it is so stress free. Just ride.
waardeloos apparaat. Kan geen mooie routes maken ook al staat het schuifje naar rechts. Allemaal N wegen, dat wil je niet.