What is The Best Sailboat? Part 2: Comfort & Safety || CATAMARAN vs MONOHULL
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- Catamaran or Monohull: Which sailboat is best? We're joined by our friends from Yacht Ruby Rose & it's part 2 of sailings biggest debate: cat vs mono.
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If you want to watch Part 1 of our Catamaran vs Monohull chat, you'll find the video here: • CATAMARAN vs MONOHULL:...
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01:42 - Which is safer to sail?
02:25 - When to put on the Life Vest, Harness & clip in!
04:54 - Man Overboard easier on a Cat or Mono?
07:06 - Why we chose a Catamaran over a Monohull (one of the big reasons).
07:36 - Safety at sea: How comfort and fatigue play into a safer sail.
08:41 - Flip or Sink? A Catamaran can flip over but a Monohull can sink.
11:43 - When to get into the liferaft.
12:45 - "Catamarans are safer than Monohulls"
13:55 - Comfort - Outside storage and deckspace
15:05 - Monohulls are better at Sailing in...
16:05 - Cruisers spend more time on anchor than sailing
17:08 - Getting on and off: Which sailboat is easier?
18:08 - Provisioning can be painful on a monhull (talking about you Skeleton Crew)
19:08 - You have to pick the boat for the next few years: NOT a forever boat.
20:25 - Inside space, heads, salon, galley, cabins and overall sailboat comfort.
25:28 - Why sail to the Arctic???
26:00 - The verdict: Which is better, Catamaran or Monohull?
27:01 - Bumfuzzle said it best.
27:58 - Quick: The catamaran things that make a monohull sailor jealous.
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If there's one thing we've learned over the past few years of sailing around the world: There's no perfect sailboat! The catamaran vs monohull debate is mostly hype and we've done our best to stay away from adding to the noise.
When we heard our friends from Sailing Yacht Ruby Rose are thinking of selling their monohull to purchase a catamaran, we invited them to come crew with us...and that led to talks of cruising life in a mono vs a cat.
We were talking about it anyway so why not film and share? In this video we're discussing comfort and safety.
We hope you find this conversation based on our collective experiences helpful. If you're in the market to purchase a sailboat remember the Mantra: Spend Smart and Stress Less. Monohull or multihull...in the end the best boat is the one you can afford to purchase now.
⭐ After you hit that play button we'd love to hear your thoughts in the comments below: What's you're preferred style of sailboat? Are you in the Monohull or Catamaran camp...or maybe you'd prefer to sail a mono but cruise in a cat? What's your favorite brand? It's always fascinating to read what draws each person to one type/brand/style of sailboat.
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I wanted to buy a Catamaran and my wife wanted a Lake House so we compromised and got a Lake House.
Sounds like you're about as successful at compromising as I am. Someday we shall win my friend...someday! (prob not though)
Steve Law always good to know when a win isn’t a win - long life & happiness.
This must be the official "guys who've been married long enough to know who's *really* in charge" thread... :-)
My wife wanted to learn how to ride a motorcycle..... I bought two. :-)
Mine wanted to do something I didn't, I said there's the door have a good time, Divorce final I took it all, but my headaches are gone and my health has improved the kids are all grown and out now, and my boat will be finished for the winter season LOL.
We first bought a mono, because we thought true sailing comes from a classic sailing vessel gracefully gliding through the water at a sexy 20° lean. After a year of that nonsense we gathered our kids and our pride and bought us a condo...I mean a catamaran. :-) We’d never go back. But then again, there are six of us on board. Mono’s could be fine for a young agile couple who doesn’t mind things sliding off tables.
PS - We Love, subscribe and watch both your channels regularly! 😘
Cheers!
The Z-Crew
Sailing Zatara All I can say is that I truly loved your journey from a monohull to a catamaran and I’m very excited to see what Nick and Theresa will choose.
I've been binge watching Z-Crew for about a week now. If you want someone who has experience with both types of boat, they are definitely a good place to start.
Zatara keith youre a legend. And i like youre new cat a lot. The only thing is you bought a bendytoy before. No wonder..
Had that been a tayana 58 foot yacht or oyster or hinkley,swan etc they are not a toy i am sure you would have a better view.
But even 58 is too small for a family as large as youres.. You would have needed a 80 footer to come close to youre 60 foot cat.
Like a swan or a boat like lattitude 38 used to own a 78 foot i forget the maker but it was called big o.
I would love to own big o. I read a aticle they were in heavy weather and boat was under such controll they have mever felt so comvortable and safe. They have a 78 foot catamaran since big o and say big o was the real deal.
Still i like youre cat but in 90 knots give me big o.
Yes i have been in 90 knots more than once.
@@sailingsolo5290 "i have been in 90 knots more than once"
Time you learned weather routing Billy :-).
@@helmshardover back then the weather info was not like it is now. Think queensday storm and sydney hobart disaster both of these were bombs out of season and not predicted. Queensday was pre internet .both can happen again even with internet
The south pacific can be a very dangerouse place.
At 66 years old I'll never own either but I do love watching your adventures. Living mine through you. Thanks so much.
Im at 68 soon to be 69 im the same i do my sailing watching these folks and some others hang in buddy its gonna be a hell of a ride still
i'm " in the same boat " as you guys at 65 and the rockstars of the cruising world SLV for sure prefer their Outremer over a monohull - be interesting to see what Brian on Delos decides to do when their baby arrives - Gunboat cats look amazing but so expensive - be safe Jason and Nikki
Barry Perrins (Adventures of an Old Sea Dog channel) has got to be in his sixties, and he cruises the world solo! Incidentally, if I had to guess, I'd say he has less than 1/20th the budget of these guys. However, as Barry himself emphasises, you have to be in good health to solo cruise whatever age you are. Also, he often chooses to sail more gently and slowly than conditions would allow in order to keep his workload at manageable levels.
At 66 I guess I'll just hang out here in the video lounge.
Tequila? (But I'm trying to work on it - head>brick wall)
Ditto
I noticed one item that you did not mention but was in the background of your video. I do believe you have much more area on a catamaran to mount solar panels than what is available on a monohull. This is a major comfort and safety issue as compared to what is available on a monohull.
That is a good point.
I love these videos. The best piece of advice from this is "Don't buy a forever boat, buy a 5 year boat."
Tom Weinstein
buy your second boat- FIRST 🤙
I like these conversations... beats what's on TV any day.
(I had to edit this, 'cos my spelling sucks.)
I strongly agree with you. TV sucks, the only thing tv is good for is gossiping and bad news.
J. Ramirez Totally concur!
video on demand/streaming has changed TV completely.
@@u235u235u235 I don't have a TV.
It's a waste of my time and money (TV channel subscriptions and the TV itself)
...Really enjoyed watching these two videos.
My wife and I just sold our house (and everything else too), bought a Leopard 42, and will be following in the Wynns’ wake.
We too went thru the Mono vs Cat debate. So far, we’re really happy with our choice.
Good luck to you! Looking forward to you posting about your experiences both good and bad, but hopefully very little of the latter.
Ooooooooo go get those Wynns!!!❤️💗💖♥️💕💝🧡💛💚💜💙⛵💙⛵💙⛵💙⛵
Excellent work, guys! It was tragically ironic that just last week, a cruising cat flipped off the coast of New South Wales, resulting in fatalities. A poignant reminder to sail conservatively, I guess. Cheers.
Was that due to extreme weather or user error?
@@davidturner8301 The media showed a brief glimpse of the overturned cat and, to me, it looked like maybe the genoa and main had been deployed at the time of the capsize. Winds were reportedly around 35 knots on that day. South-westerly, from memory, and the boat was sailing northbound, so perhaps the ugly following seas that Nick and Jason mentioned were partly to blame. Someone else may have better information than me though.
The cat appears to have been a Spirited 38 - which have flipped before so I don’t know if it’s a design issue but they have quite narrow hulls. Most cruising cars have more buoyancy forward. It’s hard to comment without knowing the details of course - terrible tragedy.
Having sailed both while living in Florida for 20 yrs it's Catamaran hands down.
As to the safety aspect, I heard the argument about Cats flipping and Monos sinking, then it goes on to state that a Mono will remain upright on the bottom, but a Cat will be upside down on the surface, I'd much rather be on top of the water than under it. Loved the discussion comparing the differences.
Always learning is the safety answer! I'm glad you all can engage in great conversations,I learned alot,thank you!🚣🚣🚣🚣🚣
Great seeing you guys together 👍 I’ve watched every episode of Nick & Terysa’s Channel and because of them I found your channel! 🙏 still going through from start to current date guys, epic channels and inspired us to buy a sail boat and start planning retirement in 4 years, starting off in Greek islands and see where life takes us from there. Thank you so much guys for your hard work and inspiration 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏👍
As always a great conversation with great people. Love and follow both your channels.
Thanks guy's. Have a great week.
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Second!! Whoo hoo!! Sunday coffee with the Wynns! As always, stay safe, be safe💕💕
Love the video guys and yes i watched ALL the way to the end! Nicely Done!
"Buy the boat that is best for the area that you plan to sail in the next five years and can afford", this is the best answer to this stupid question I've ever heard, congrats Wynns and Ruby Rose on a great vid
Thanks for the video we have been looking at both now for a bit and it’s always nice to see and get someone’s opinion on the topic! Love the fact that there were more then just you two for a this video as you have been on a cat for a few years and they have been living on a mini forever!
Love the song of the roosters in the background. Agreeing with everything you all are saying. Nice to see 2 couples being friends. Thank you 4 sharing your adventures.
Just found you and these 2 episodes are SO Helpful!! Thanks so much!
I have researched this subject many times. This is the best analysis I have seen. TY
Fantastic video, I really like the honest comparison between monohulls and cats - I love the advice "buy a boat for 5 years" Thank you :)
When loading heavy stores on a mono hull from a dingy use the boom and a winch, easy and safe. Work smart not hard. Shopping for a Blue Water Cruiser after years sailing Cats. Have to say Mono Hulls are my primary search simply because for the price for a 57' mono is still well below a 45' Cat. It's not about space but comfort at sea. Amel and the Beneteau 57 center cockpit with the enclosed helm are made for Heavy Seas and Comfort.
Both nice seaworthy vessels...Fair Winds!
For comfort, center cockpit is the way to go. More space on deck, protection from following seas, less exposure to pitching movement. If I were building a vessel she would be center cockpit.
Thank you for mentioning Bumfuzzle, he was the first blogger I discovered, who just went around the world without a care, loved those adventures, so well written and way ahead of the times
I was a engineer for Bell Helicopter in Grand Prairie, Texas, I am not retired yet, but I am considering buying a Cat. At first I was worried for you but now glad to see you were taking sailing lessons. I enjoy watching both you and Sailing Zatara. Be safe and have fun
These two videos were great! Thanks to you all.
Enjoyable video as usual, I don’t care what kind of boat anyone has but it’s interesting to me learning what you think. Love both of your channels!
Another great video! Thanks for putting together the series. My take away: have a plan. A plan for what you want to do and how you intend on using the boat. Also, a plan for every component of sailing (i.e. MOB, anchoring, picking up mooring balls, docking, etc.) for the type of boat I eventually get. Again, thanks for a great and candid discussion.
I enjoy both channels. I actually found yours, and then binge watched from the beginning of your boat adventure, when Ruby Rose showed their videos of visiting you. Thanks for the content, I get a lot of enjoyment out of watching.
Welcome to the crew and thanks for sailing with us!
There are a handful of channels on youtube that keep me salivating for more content... this one is at the top. Another great video and series guys!
Awe, thanks for the love and for being a part of the crew!
I think that the fact that the couple explaining the pros of mono hulls are looking to get a catamaran, really says it all.
Was pleased to hear the more apt comparison...a 43 cat vs a 53 to 64 mono. Then space, speed and comfort can be considered equal. I've always thought that sailing motion preference is the deciding factor. Personally , I prefer the power sailing aspect of a mono.. 55- 64 ft...cutting through water as opposed to a cats herky jerky motion...plus, the slamming of the bridge deck makes me mental. Great, unsolvable topic by these two wonderful couples..as usual.
I’ve followed a ruby rose since their beginning and I’ve kept up with you since you decided to go sailing. Loved this meetup.
Another great video. Someone mentioned below that at age 66 they would never own either one. I’m here to say we’re 65 and actively looking for our boat. The best advice you all gave was to buy for the moment and not forever. Thanks again!
Great conversation, re fatigue on long passage the cruising catamaran is defiantly easier on the body than a monohull. The safety factors are fully associated with that. Thanks guys! Cheers Warren
Great video great discussion two of my favorite all-time TH-camrs if I had to flip a coin to decide which one of y'all are like best I wouldn't do it I love both of y'all you're definitely true sailboat sailors
In a serious ocean seaway, the quick righting moment of a catamaran and the noise of waves crashing under the bridge deck are NOT comfortable or it’s best features. A monohull in the same seaway might have as much motion, but it would be slower and much quieter. I like catamarans, but they have their faults.
Great conversation about risk management. Risk moves up and down. You manage the risk by implementing controls such as life jackets and life lines. Great conversation.
I love to see you guys together ! Great conversation , and very true ! Cheers !
Hello, Just to add that I like your videos and appreciate the tips and discussions. Bravo!
I am convinced I would by a catamaran! You did an excellent job explaining. I think you both would be fun to go on a short cruise with! Have a great week!
Morning guys. Good convo. From Texas here. Considering power cat 50’ staying in Caribbean loop. Stay safe cheers 👍
13:28 "Even if you're flipped you know you're gonna be ok".
You forgot to add: "As long as we dont die from that".
1 CORRECTION: Cats have more 'EMERGENCY MARINAS'. In an emergency a cat can beach at any sandy calm beach or near mangroves. Anywhere theres a bit of sand where the tide goes out. You’ll have around 4hrs a day to work on the issue.
Note: Best to put something soft under the hulls, like air bags, or even old fenders (tie to the hulls). This is because as the tide goes out the cat may move from small waves and hit the sand repeatedly. Also note tides times and heights.
FREE Antifouling - no haul out (save around $2000):
Note: Be responsible. Always cleanup all mess (paint, oil, fibre glass etc). And a big drop sheet, no wind.
Beach your cat (using some sort of cushioning), let the tide go out. Make sure u have a big drop sheet, and theres no wind to blow the old paint away. Use 1 motor or gen to run your sander. Sand when dry, Paint when dry.
Its fine for the tide to come in and out, and do it bit by bit. This is how we did it when I was a kid. There wasn’t any ‘haul outs’. Even the keelers had to tie up to a rickety old small wharf and wait for the tide to go out.
Now they have to have big machines and charge u lots of money. Just pls be responsible for ALL your mess, discard safely and environmentally correct.
PS. For antifouling, chose a beach with no pple
Great conversation guys, so much important information and comparisons. Thankyou for this 2part informative video! 👍💯😊
Absolutely excellent discussion! PT 1 and 2
RV to Sailing, always a joy. Looking forward to the next.
Well that was actually a good convo to listen to... ty
Nice job, guys! Great information and we'll presented as always 😁
Thank you guys, a great debate .... 👍
Great conversation. Lots to consider - thanks for organizing!
What an interesting discussion with my favourite sailing couples!
Great video the two episodes were super you guys are gas to watch I follow both you guys again thanks for sharin
No sailing experience aside from 3 days on a tallship doing what I was told. Watched the whole video fascinated :p
Two great couples. Always interesting to get the perspective of people who have been there and done that for several years. I particularly liked the advice to buy what you can afford now, and buy the boat that fits how you plan to use it. There is no one-size-fits-all in life or in sailboats.
Love and like this civilized conversation , bottom line is what suits your needs but this conversation will helps others in making a good decision thanks.
Big fan of your channel. Do you think the years you spent living in your RVs influenced your decision to go with at Cat vs Mono?
An excellent discussion on the pro's and cons of both types. Very entertaining. Fair winds & regards from the UK
Little off topic.., missed your Sunday Funday video this week 😔 Hope all is well and look forward following along on your adventure! Your definitely the pioneers in this foray of utube videos! Continued success and safe sailing ⭐️⭐️⭐️
Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experiences. What is considered common knowledge for all of you experienced open water sailors, can be a revelation to someone less experienced. Nick's knowledge of monohulls is very valuable as is the your knowledge of sailing a catamaran. Passing comments are a gold mine of value for less less experienced, i.e. large trailing sea in a catamaran with MOB. Great interaction and discussion. Thank you to the editor in chief for a smooth and interesting video.:-)
That was not a good discussion...that was AMAZING!!! Especially, for such an important topic.
...And that beer sounds great - Amber, malty, and smooth 🥰😀👍
I watched the whole video and enjoyed every minute.
Only found you by TH-cam accident. Really sorry I didn't know about your travels 3 years ago. What a joy to watch and be there with you. Saw a lot of the world in the USN and business but missed Tahiti and surrounds.
Great debate. Kudos
Loved it! Stay within your budget and just do it! Great advice. The best two youtube channels on the planet! Thank you for posting.
Regardless, I want a catamaran and I want to sail to these beautiful places ya’ll have shown in your videos. Some of your footage is mind blowing and it is hard to imagine seeing so many different species of fish, sea creatures, coral, and landscape with such beautiful colors, shapes, and design. A lot of your videos are more impressive than some documentaries I have seen on PBS, Arts and Entertainment, and the Discovery Channel. Thank you very much. GOD bless ya’ll and Happy Sailing.
Awe, thanks for the love❣
Gone with the Wynns You are welcome, the love is well deserved. Stay safe, have fun, and keep on spreading love and the GOD given beauties of the world. Thank you.
Nice parting words Nick!
Congrats to both crews thanks hugs from Canada
great vid as usual guys, very entertaining and informative, mostly entertaining, not looking for a boat. I still think when rubyrose get their cat ya'll need to meet up for couple of months would be a good learning experience, and a whole lot of fun.
Congratulations on capturing Lucy's attention with your videos on Sailing with Lucy!
Who else is hearing roosters? 😂
😀
Was looking for this comment
I can't stop hearing them. Want to tell them to shut up so I can listen to the conversation.
I don't know about the roosters but one thing I didn't see was the 2 pussy cats.....Must of been curled up snoozing some were lol.
I thought I heard police fire or ambulance sirens at one point.
I'm lovin this collaboration with Ruby Rose...Yes, Nikki... It was interesting...would love another collab with them.... just awesome
That was a really fun & interesting show. Great conversation. Happy Trails!
I like both, currently have neither, but as an engineer, the safety factor easily goes to the monohull.
Neither boat is "likely" to flip over. It would take a combination of extreme weather and user error, or a critical material failure which would be a construction flaw rather than a design flaw. However, a catamaran is MORE likely to flip over than a monohull. This is basic physics. First. A monohull weighs more which gives it more inertia to resist rotation. Secondly, heeling allows the monohull to disperse wind energy organically. Third, the keel creates a counter moment of inertia which ensures it will eventually right itself, or find some balance between o and 90 degrees.
A catamaran does not have a keel, and is much lighter. It also doesn't heel in the wind. Heeling for a cat means having one wing out of the water. This also increases the surface area for the wind to hit. Unlike a monohull, this means that a cats wind energy exposure increases, or at best, is less significantly dispersed, than that of a monohull when healing. A monohull which starts heeling is likely to reduce further heeling with each degree. With a catamaran, the opposite is true.
Catamaran cruisers have flipped, but so have monohulls. You only hear about the catamarans because that is game over for them.
A monohull's righting moment mathematically guarantees that it's optimal state of potential energy is right side up. A catamaran's natural state of least potential energy is upside down. Proof in point, a monohull can right itself, but a catamaran which has capsized can never regain its intended state.
If you plan on just staying along the coasts and avoiding hard weather, that's fine, but it's impossible to do so 100% of the time.
Not sinking is a good advantage of the catamaran for sure. Though well built monohulls have 5+ water tight compartments. The odds of piercing multiple compartments is no more than piercing both hulls of a cat. Both circumstances warrant abandoning ship. In the cat case, this simply means using the cat as the life raft.
Losing a keel? Seriously? If we're going to be that hypothetical, let's wonder if the catamaran explodes since it has two engines and thus is twice as likely to do so? We're not being fair with that one. Both boats have design risks due to trade offs. For example, catamarans are under far more sheer stresses due to having a large mass out of water. Upwards buoyancy forces coupled with downward wave forces makes a catamaran more likely to get ripped into pieces. Still, I don't think that is a realistic concern, but since we're talking theoretical situations...
Good stuff as always.
I'm about 2 years away from selling everything a buying a boat this video was really helpful and gave insight and inspiration to me. But I keep seeing Trimarans popping up currently and I'm wandering now a Tri or Cat.
All I can see currently is a Tri is in between a Cat and a Mono they seem very interesting as they are a middle ground between the two boats in price and they from what I gather don't heel as much at a mono but more than a Cat. I just can't decide at all what to buy and to embark on my journey around the world on, with my partner and two other friends. (I've tried to gather there opinion but they said to leave it up to me as I have the most experience in sailing and still currently taking lessons on how to sail)
Non the less great video on the long never ending battle. You two are very nice from what I can gather through the few weeks I've been watching you.
Thank you for the amazing content,
-Nathan
You should check out this video. th-cam.com/video/xgypZIQ0uEA/w-d-xo.html I did notice that all the ones I saw on my last trip were all heeled slightly when at anchor. I would think that would be annoying. The two outer hulls are much smaller than a cat, so much less roomy feeling. Check out Ruby Rose's review last week of a Neal tri.
Great balanced discussion. I’ve sailed the southern ocean in a cruising cat circumnavigating Australia so I feel your analysis was spot on. Couple of minor comments/additions: re: haul-out - you can beach a cat more easily. Re: Close hailed: our Seawind sails at 32° to wind (we also race it on Wednesdays). Re: heavy weather a negative is the “cat-walk” motion traversing waves and swell, but that is balanced by being much less susceptible to rolling at anchor. :). Craig. (SCARLETT)
There is a definitive answer, but you have to change the question a little. “Which is better FOR ME, a catamaran or monohull.” Same argument as car vs motorcycle.
Renee Mineart
car vs truck
Very interesting discussion!
Wonderful dialogue, we follow you both. Love the catamarans.
Interesting. I think Nick was very patient. He clearly was thinking deeply about the various options and definitely considering the Pros and Cons, and didn't dismiss either option.
Great topic. I have a friend that designed trimarans years ago, and I've been looking at building one of his designs. I'm wondering if you have ever considered them.
best discussion on Mono vs Multi topic EVER,
Thank you for that discussion. Cheers, Eric. :-)
With all of the utmost sincerity this has got to be one of the best series out there on this topic and not only boating but on why we do this adventuresome thing! This should be transcribes and printed in every sailing magazine in publish. First changing to sailing from rving for me and my wife is not an option, that said I’ve done time going fast on a Hobie 18 and a Schock Santana 20 as well as spending time on a Choy Lee 31. Sailing for me at my age and the fact that my better half physically isn’t strong enough to handle the sailing chores if something should happen to me (I ramble...sorry) is probably not an option, but we use our 5th wheel as much as possible (on number 3 and almost 20 year anniversary). However you four are perfectly spot on with this great conversation! Jason and Nikki I have followed you through the Rv days and one thing rings true...make those memories and do it often. Do it now a tent an A class a cat or mono. As you four have said...make a plan...devise the budget that works...stick to it as best possible (stuff happens) and do it! This life is the one you have and you absolutely must fill it with memories and never regrets. You four are fantastic. Thanks for sharing and fair winds.
Awe, that's great! Thanks for the love! 😻
You both have beautiful boats. But I truly love the woodwork and craftsmanship in Ruby Rose. A cat with that quality of interior would be the ultimate.
I watched the whole thing parts 1 & 2. Thanks for grinding through that open, and what looked like to me, a not always easy or comfortable discussion. I'm really glad the final point was to get what you can afford and not wait, which seems to favor a nice enough mono hull. That said, there is a followup to even that statement... one must be also considering their operating budget when deciding to buy a boat, so everyone should not spend to their max savings, unless those savings include funds for the first year or so of operations and cruising. Thanks again.
love the honesty of the conversation guys keep up the good work, for me my boat will probably be a large mono for two reasons initial purchase price, and the ability to have a walk around bed in my cabin without spending half a million or more on a newish cat, everything in life is a compromise
Yep, always a compromise no matter what. As Nikki says “there’s no such thing as a perfect boat” :)
You made all my points!!! Why is the captain responsible for everything unless and until a catamaran flips and then it's the boats fault
Intersting video , how do you handle fire on board, we had a motor yacht and one night the cabin was full smoke on a starting fire, we survived and so dit the boat by fast handling.
cruising was never the same for us and finally we sold the boat. Can you explain how you are in control whit that. We had an electrical failure which was the reason. Smoke detection didn’t work and I was lucky I woke up, we were very lucky that night.
I would always install a high pressure sprinkler system - and you're wrong if you think that you can't extinguish a hydrocarbon fire in an enclosed space.
I would also add CO and CO2 detectors, and a lot more than one, and not all of the from the same manufacturer.
If the smoke detector didn't work you had forgot to put it on your weekly vessel monitoring, evaluation and maintenance list.
These general discussions are very familiar from the camping world. Different kinds of kit all come with pros and cons and the key is matching yourself and your lifestyle into the best suited bit of kit. There is no “best”, but there is “best suited”.
It is a really valid discussion. I think Nick hits in on the head when he recommends a five year plan. You will change; everybody does. Hiking, camping, sailing, you name it, people grow, learn, and change. What works for you today so you can start your adventure.
If you add a "Seakeeper stabilization gyro" to a monohull the advantage of the catamaran's stabile platform is equalized. Your monohull stops rolling. Their evaluation of the monohull was far from comprehensive. Just about all monohull hull thickness is significantly thicker and sturdier than a catamaran. At the start of a "knockdown", the sail of a monohull is spilling wind as the mast approaches water. This slows down the rate of the mast approaching the water. Afterwards, the heavy keel brings the monohull upright. A catamaran does not lean over spilling wind. It moves sideways to some extent until the wind is strong enough to lift one of the hulls. After that the wind gets under the catamaran and keeps lifting the catamaran until it's upside down. A catamaran on its side will not stay that way because the wind will keep pushing on the bottom of the boat. It will take a power boat to get it upright again in calmer weather. Your radios are underwater and if you're far from land, you're screwed! You are also more likely to be knocked down if your weight distribution between catamaran hulls are not equal. Catamarans are more convenient, but monohulls are definitely safer.
LOL my browser crashed so my first response got deleted :( but to sum it up short.
A "Seakeeper stabilization gyro" is crazy expensive, mono has thicker hulls (floting logs and shipping containers don't really care tho) but catamarans have redundancy like 2 motors, 2 rudders, 2 hulls. If youarenew to sailing i would start with a monohull because they are more forgiving like you wrote with the knockdown and spilling over winds. But if you are experienced it'smoreabout what you prefer and like.
Great discussion. This is what happens anytime two or more sailors get together. Sailors also do this discussing a flashlight or a piece of rope :)
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my parents and love to watch your channel!
Far to diplomatic, few more rums and it would be interesting.
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Awesome video we have both a Catamaran and a Monohull we have a Hobie Cat 14 and a Sunfish 13 sailboat both are awesome boats they both have their ups and downs they ain't nothing like the sail boats you guys have but they are perfect for weekend sailing and learning how to sail eventually I plan on getting a bigger sailboat for now I'll use my Sea Ray 275 Sundancer when it comes to a yacht for now
Great comparison by people who really are doing things! Not just armchair sailors...
: Great video very interesting perspectives on the two types of boats. Wishing you safe Journeys.
One episode of the BBC series 'Death In Paradise' TM features a catamaran which is basically two mono hulls joined together and despite having completely open decks, it looks, amazing!
Forgive me if I missed it but did you even look at /consider monohull when you were first shopping?
They did not. Having been aboard some monohulls over the years, they already knew that they wanted to have all their non-sleeping space to be at the same level. They really wanted that feel of a continuous indoor/outdoor space that a catamaran has. If you'd like, you can go to the sailing page on the blog and click on the "sailboat shopping" tab to read all their posts and watch videos about the process. www.gonewiththewynns.com/sailing
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