I adopted a few of the wild horses from The Bureau of Land Management and bought them to my farm in Puerto Rico. They are wild and I let them hang out down by the river that flows through the Middle of my farm. I can walk through them without any problems. I might adopt a few more.
still to this day !! Canada is selling horses to Japan!! for meat!! this makes me sick!! if it was,nt for horses we would never got around !!! they are amazing and smart sprits!!
There is no overpoplation, in fact there are 110 cows to 1=one Wild Horse, the BLM lies to all of us. Your idea is a sound one, they have killed off all the wolves as well, ruining any balance in nature, the BLM is a train wreck plain+simple.
Cougars are FAR MORE numerous than wild horses. There is NO overpopulation of wild horses, but many lies are told against them. Cattle are given preference a million to one. You've believed the propaganda.
Yeah, I've got bad news about the wolf part. th-cam.com/video/wI1_yCQF6xo/w-d-xo.html They're being hunted too. And where I live, mountain lions have already been hunted to extinction over here.
Horses were inhabiting our lands here in America as early as when? Fossils of Wild Horses were found in Oregon state, million years old, so now tell me what??
Granted, there aren't true wild horses in Europe either. Except for the Przewalski's horses in the Chernobyl exclusion zone. Also, that's mentioned in the video
Wether or not they are native to the American continent, through fossil evidence or reintroduced. They have been a part of this land for hundreds of years now, they have just as much of a right to be here as we do. They are as native and entitled to the continent as we are. This idea that horses are the problem, maybe they are, but so are cattle and sheep, as well as us. Do we forget how many cattle there are compared to these wild horses? And the amount of damage they do to land as well. If the wild horse is bad then domestic cattle and sheep are just as bad.
Why would they search for homes for wild horses they didn't even tame? That's like snatching a gray wolf out of the wild and then locking them up in your house.
and they would love it. i should no. ive had wolves all my life. they bond to people. not aggressive as people think. coyote is the aggressor not the wolf. wolf gets blamed cause bigger, coyote ignored. dont make stupid statements
It's exactly that bad of an idea! You are correct! Besides, the land needs all native wildlife & horses evolved on North America & like all other native wildlife they keep the land healthy unlike the livestock that destroys the range, watersheds & native flora. Too many greedy, dumb people not enough basic decency & intelligence. US Bureau of Land Mgt is run by the dumbest, greediest rednecks on the planet.
That was done, but the cattle ranchers and all others who make a living off killing the wild horses are the parasites that keep this cruelty running, they are basically breaking the law, as the Wild Ones are federally protected, on the books anyway, who in our country honors+follows these laws, not the welfare ranchers thats for sure, the pioneer woman=on TV and her ugly husband ladd, are making millions, a true disgrace to our country.
I don’t know why they don’t just adopt a gradual population control sterilization method and just grow grass indoors for the cattle. Grass companies do it already. Seems cheaper.
they talk about birth control in this and its like....why dont they just castrate the male horses and then let them go. not every horse needs to be castrated but you could do it to a certain percent and it's fast and cheap. all you gotta do is clamp the testicles or even put a rubber band around them when they are young and they eventually die and fall off. sounds horrible but it's better than killing them and is really cheap. the ranchers need the land. i love horses but they are an invasive species that is not built to live in this environment. the pastures arent fit for them so it gets destroyed, this happens frequently with invasive species. i feel like the company that gets all the money to care for those horses is probably just pocketing most of it. i seriously do not understand why they are acting like nothing can be done. they could even use long acting birth control that lasts years on the females if they dont want to castrate males. that would be cheaper and easier. its probably just like the prison system, where they say they need so much to care for each horse and the government gives it to them...but then they only spend a fraction of what they get from the government and take the rest home.
@@wmd40 Wild horse herds maintain stable populations: records have been kept on many of them for 30 years, and their populations have remained stable. The long gestation period of the horse, followed by the years spent nursing her single foal before the mare is free to breed again, together with the limited number of breeding pairs in any given year, makes it clear that horses have a SLOW reproductive rate, NOT a fast one. Add to that, that Cougars and Wolves take foals, and you will see that they are only maintaining their numbers. The issue is NOT any problem with wild horses, but the GREED of humans. There are millions of cattle being given preference over the actual modest number of horses, and contrary to your notions, horses ARE built to live in this environment and have PROVEN that over the last 500 years and millennia long before. They are NOT an invasive species; it's the propaganda of the system that teaches people to believe such things. Wild horses migrate, so they eat lightly on the land, traveling as they go, which gives the vegetation time to regrow. Cattle, on the other hand, camp out next to their water source, eating the vegetation down to the ground and pulling it out by the roots, denuding the land. This has long been known, while they also eat the bark off trees, which kills trees, but horses don't do that. Have you seen the west? There is a tremendous amount of land that is not used. It's an agenda that is without truth or understanding of the fact that horses are a Keystone species such that they distribute seed, nutrients and enzymes everywhere they migrate, nourishing the land, enriching the soil, creating a better, richer environment for all species of Life on the land. Just like the most efficient way to regrow the rain forests is to reintroduce the elephant (another Keystone species for the same reason), the fastest, most efficient way to enrich the land in the west, is to let wild horses feed and migrate as they do. They are part of Nature, not outside it.
Here in Arizona we have several packs of wild horses including the Salt River Pack. I love seeing the horses and I would hate to see them disappear. I hope a solution can be found to strike a balance between these opposing forces. I’m not a fan of the BLM roundups. I think a huge responsibility lies upon the ranchers to sustainably graze their herds as well.
What I love about them is that they are keeping the river+creeks free of the stuff that clogs the water up, we all benefit from this but the BLM goons are just a bunch of stupid morons, who care only about $$$$$
This is difficult but I'm an equestrian and I think that if the birth control plan doesn't work, hunting of mustangs should be reinstated and regulated. What is happening to them now is no kinder than the fate of being hunted. The fact is that the wild mustang is an invasive species in the Americas. They weren't here first. We brought them here. Even without the cattle and sheep problem, the horses would eventually overpopulate themselves and cause their own starvation. They have no natural predators in North America, yet they reproduce like prey that needs to keep up with predation. I hate the idea of horses being hunted, but I hate the idea of them slowly starving even more. We treat deer the same way. Deer are beautiful and should be preserved but we continue to hunt them to control their population. Why is that okay, but doing this for wild horses is not?
#savethehorses I have loved horses my whole life since I was 1 when I found out what a horse was called. I have always wished for a horse but I dont have a big yard and it's very costly. But I plan to get a bigger piece of land to get a wild horse in one of the round ups so it doesn't end it to a food industry.
I'm pretty sure Native Americans (or as I like to call them, "real Americans") do not consider wild horses to be a positive symbol of how the "West was won". That's what really bothers me about this law. Another (lesser) thing that bothers me is that horses were introduced by Spaniards; horse aren't even native to America... Come to think of it, I guess that makes them a apt symbol. Anyway, since they're not native, it seems a bit silly to be super concerned with their preservation. Besides, 20% growth (per year) is pretty darn fast! Seems like they wouldn't need THAT much protection. In the mean time, there are plenty of endangered species that DO need protection. It's pretty frustrating to know that they receive far less sympathy and government resources. Because of their value as domesticated animals, horses are never going to go extinct. This just seems like a super disproportionate allocation of sympathy and federal resources.
allyourcode I’m pretty sure I read somewhere that horses are actually native to America, they crossed the land bridge into Asia, and due to changing climate they died out in America
Current theory holds horses are native to the Americas and evolved here. They are NOT native to Asia, Europe or Africa and are recent immigrants. Only the modern horse Equidae is found there and only in the Americas can you see evolution of the horse through the eons. They crossed into Asia through the Berring land bridge into Asia where they became domesticated. About 10,000 years ago they died out with most of the mega fauna, possibly due to man coming here and wiping them and other large mammals out. Columbus brought horses back on his second trip where they re-established. 10,000 years is nothing in reality and most of North America was still prime habitat for horses.
Lets see, horses the same species that we domesticated are Native to N. Amer. Never, died out completely. Our wild are hybrids of horses that have always roamed this continent and those domestics we started bringing here since the 1400's. Elk came to North Amer. about the same time as human first did, around 14.000 years ago. Horses are the most Native having been in north Amer. longer than any other current hoofed animal. The modern horse almost for 4 million years. Its ancestors millions more before that. . Why is it so hard for people to understand a wild horse is just that, a Wild Native Animal.
Velma Johnston is one of my hero's certainly, she worked so hard to try and stop this madness, the blm the usda the usfs,+more unfortunately somebody is making money off our tax dollars, for example Pioneer Woman who sells her trinkets to walmart, is making millions off holding our Wild horses then ship to slaughter.
Wrong there is an answer, everyone needs to just butt out and leave nature alone, the wolves the horses donkeys, the sage grouse, but the money grubbers have killed off everything but the damned cows, Boycott Beef thats one answer to this issue.
To most people in America eating a horse is like eating a cat or dog. Other people have no opinion of it. Most people don't want any sort of slaughter to be legal, and honestly if the BLM would listen to the advice they are given this wouldn't be a problem. They chose to ignore the study the Nation Academy of Science did, saying that there were better ways to manage the population. They also ignored all of the fertility control programs that have been recommended. The more you read into it the more you will understand why people are so against these roundups, and all of the errors the BLM has made. No news outlet is really going to tell you the whole story. You will either get one side or the other, and if you don't get that, the details you get are dated and, in some cases, untrue.
Why don't they just make the Ranchers graze THEIR sheep and Cattle that they SELL for profit on THEIR OWN LAND like the cattle ranchers in Florida and every other State on the East Coast and Mid West do. Florida is the second largest producer of beef in America. Florida ranchers DON'T get to raise and graze their cattle for FREE on PUBLIC Land They raise their livestock on land they OWN and PAY TAXES ON!!!!!!!11one
Horse's I love them I want to be one people don't care about horse's but I will start something it's called human horse were you can be a wild horse do everything like a horse
Why are people so upset about the idea of horses being slaughtered, but not people hunting deer? It's probably better to slaughter or hunt some of the horses and use the meat rather than to imprison wild horses.
There are no "farms" to built fences around. The farmers/ranchers are allowed to let their flocks graze on public aka government land. The wild horses also graze there. Do you help ranchers or help wild horses?
Most of the ranchers are wealthy examples The Waltons=Walmart, the Hiltons, the koch Brothers in the money they're all loaded and we're subsidizing them for their damned cattle.
It's not a large wild horse population > that's one of their key lies. Wild horses are not overpopulated. Given the long gestation period of horses, followed by the years spend nursing her single foal before the mare is free to breed again, together with the limited number of breeding pairs in any given year, wild horses have a slow reproductive rate. Records have been kept on numerous mustang herds over the last 30 years, and the populations have remained stable. Cougars and Wolves take foals. Fact is, millions of cattle ($$$$$) are given preference over a modest number of wild horses, mustangs that will soon be extinct if man continues on his lying, greedy course. Add to that, that wild horses are a Keystone species, eating lightly as they migrate which gives time for regrowth, depositing seed, nutrients and enzymes everywhere they migrate, enriching the land, nourishing the soil, increasing vegetation growth for all the species that live on the range. Cattle, however, camp out next to their water source, eating the vegetation down to the ground, then pulling it up by the roots, denuding the land, and eating the bark of trees, which kills trees, and these things have LONG been known. It's an agenda, folks, and it's all about money.
Actually, regarding the wild horse "over-population" belief, contraception CAN work, it's just not being implemented properly. I've followed these issues for over 25 years and it's complex. (There is more complexity to this controversy than any journal can cover in a 10 minute piece....) For example: Part of the problem, strangely enough, is that the BLM is partially exacerbating the situation by helping the roundup contractors keep their living going: Stressful roundups actually contribute to a phenomenon called "compensatory breeding" by the wild mustangs.....
Well, some people are probably going to hate me for this, but maybe they should allow hunting of the wild horses to keep the population under control. It's better than them overgrazing the land till there is too little grass and they starve to death. If they regulate it like how they regulate hunting deer, then it should be fine. Maybe re-introducing more predators into the areas they are over populated would help too. I'm not really surprised that they are having trouble finding them homes because they are large animals who need a decent sized pasture and a lot of care. Most people don't have the time or space for them. The people that do only have two or three because that is what they can handle. Not many people go horse back riding.
All parts of the world have different views on “edible” animals. Who is correct? The US? Why? Ethically, eating an animal is eating an animal, whatever the species. You’d better be a vegetarian if you are against eating horse meat, to avoid hypocrisy. All livestock in America are invasive species and are detriment to the environment. The biggest problem with America’s horse issue is that a lack of definitive action has caused animal suffering. That is a human issue.
I do not know how a very rich and 'powerful' country could find it difficult to solve such a simple problem, there are a number of ingenious ways to turn the so-called nuisance into a resource, meaning keeping the wonderful horses with the number needed, save budget and get money over them!
It's all corruption in US Federal Gov & ranchers money laundering schemes & keeping Mexican & Canadian cartels happy while destroying wildlife, wildlands & watersheds. There's a huge backstory to this. US Dept of Interior is run by greedy, soulless criminals.
@@JuicyCharon And we don't want to get rid of them, but save the countryside from overgrazing. The solution is birth control, but we don't have the technology...
@@jackmorgan1677 : Actually, we DO have the technology, and contraception CAN work, it's just not being implemented properly. I've followed these issues for over 25 years and it's complex. (There is more complexity to these issues than any journal can cover in a 10 minute piece....) Part of the problem, strangely enough, is that the BLM is partially exacerbating the situation and helping the roundup contractors keep their living going: stressful roundups actually contribute to a phenomenon called "compensatory breeding" by the wild mustangs.
@@Sunlemming Wild horses have natural predators too, Cougars and Wolves. The only reason why people think that hunting elk and deer is necessary, is because arrogant man, devoid of understanding, wiped out all the wolves in the latter part of the nineteenth century into the beginning of the twentieth century. Wild horses are NOT overpopulated >> Given the length of horse gestation, followed by the years spent nursing her single foal before the mare is free to breed again, together with the limited number of breeding pairs in any given year, it is Not possible for horses to have anything but a slow reproductive rate. Records have been kept on numerous mustang herds for 30 years, and they keep stable populations. There is No overpopulation. The fact is, that millions of cattle are given preference over modestly sized mustang herds, because humans are greedy. There are lots of lies against wild horses, because that is the agenda of greedy men. Wild horses migrate, eating lightly as they go, giving time for vegetation to grow; they are a Keystone specie, depositing seed, nutrients and enzymes everywhere they migrate, enriching the land, nourishing the soil, increasing vegetation growth, that makes the environment better and richer for all the species that live in it. Cattle camp out next to their water source, eat the vegetation down to the ground then pull it up by the roots, denuding the land, eating the bark of trees which kills trees, and horses don't do these things. Wild horses are being falsely blamed, and people lacking understanding believe those lies.
There are way too many people in these comments who think ranchers are greedy and that horses should be protected, even though they're not native to the Americas. You know what we should protect? Wolves, deer, and eagles.
Mustangs are a symbol of our wild west, and they really shouldn't be monitored by the BLM which puts them in a bad spot. Something that I find rather ridiculous is the fact that there are numerous "wild west experiences" for tourism, but the BLM is not capitalizing on it to help supplement their funds. How much does it cost to use that helicopter? Why not take some of those tourism resources and have people pay to help round up the horses? Also remember adopt a whale? Why not adopt a horse? STOP banging your heads against a wall thinking that something needs to change and start working on finding ways to make it change. Make the BLM the BLM and have the horses managed by a federal heritage group. Use tourism to 1. round up the animals in a more humane way, and 2. use tourism and everyone's love of the mustangs to promote and raise awareness as well as funds. Take the offer globally as there are many other Nations fascinated by our American Wild West as we are of the English Monarchy.
hey are we gonna talk about how these "wild" horses are an invasive species without a natural place within america's food chain, with a relatively large ecological impact or are we just going to spend the next century refusing to address that because they're pretty?
The phrase there is just so much grass out there and it is already spoken for (with a pic of sheep) is misleading. Wild horse areas are only on 3% of Fed. land, other livestock on 95%. Only a tiny fraction of ranchers have permits on herd areas, and guess what, the horses were there first. Livestock only granted in in 1976 after the industry boohooed.
The issue is that for all the claims of environmental activism, the protection of wild horses in America really takes no precedent over ranchers. Wild horses are not native to the US and have actually had a severe impact on the local ecology. So when ginger says 'oh blame the livestock' it's a bit rich since the horses are as alien to that environment as the sheep and cattle are but at least provide food etc. Bear in mind as well that this comment is coming from someone who is vegetarian and pro environmental activism. I support the reintroduction of wolves for example. But when you have a case of a feral species clearly and severely impacting both the environment and local industry when it was never meant to be there to begin with, you clearly have a problem with the animal being there.
If you've ever looked into the history of the Americas and if you claim to care so much about the environment and ecology then you should know that horses are indeed native to America. The genus eques first evolved in America and the horses are designed for North America so I have no idea where you're getting this "severe impact" on the local ecology from. Compare 18,000 horses (in total) to millions of sheep and cattle and please tell me that horses are the ones causing the shortage in the grass. The only reasons horses ever left the continent is because of the land bridge that formed. Millions of native animals migrated across is searching for new land to expand and ended up not being able to come back. They're not alien or invase, they're an original native species that have been reintroduced which again is something that is proven to help ecosystems not hurt them. The best way to heal an ecosystem is to restore it and fill in the niches, but since cattle and sheep have taken up the niche of large grassing mammal it has now become a competition for resources. I really hope you're just too young to have learned about this, not ignorant.
Too lazy to watch their herds+flocks, they just let them go wherever+then make up stories about the few remaining wild ones. They're all crooks the BLM=bureau of land management,+the politicians, including trump who is pro slaughter, in 2020 he should be voted OUT OUT OUT.
Because the cows and shep aren't on "farms", but on open public land. The farmers don't own the land they graze their animals on, so they aren't allowed to enclose it.
is it true that you don't eat horse meat in the USA? i'm just curious if what i heard is true or not, no judging, sorry if i made mistakes, i'm still learning english... :-)
+valzerna No. Americans (by and large) regard horse meat as disgusting, even though the vast majority have never tried it before. Another way to look at it is that the latter fact is a cause of the former. What meats are acceptable is admittedly pretty arbitrary, but also pretty hard to change.
This is what happens when you introduce non native species. We either need to introduce predators--probably wolves--or not cry so much when they are killed be people. Or if the public votes for it, we can stop grazing on public land and have the cost of beef go up.
I’m sorry, I love horses, but this is absolutely ridiculous. Reintegration of buffalo should be a way higher priority than maintaining a population of an invasive species.
If you've ever looked into the history of the Americas and if you claim to care so much about the environment and ecology then you should know that horses are indeed native to America. The genus eques first evolved in America and the horses are designed for North America so I have no idea where you're getting this "severe impact" on the local ecology from. Compare 18,000 horses (in total) to millions of sheep and cattle and please tell me that horses are the ones causing the shortage in the grass. The only reasons horses ever left the continent is because of the land bridge that formed. Millions of native animals migrated across is searching for new land to expand and ended up not being able to come back. They're not alien or invase, they're an original native species that have been reintroduced which again is something that is proven to help ecosystems not hurt them. The best way to heal an ecosystem is to restore it and fill in the niches, but since cattle and sheep have taken up the niche of large grassing mammal it has now become a competition for resources. I really hope you're just too young to have learned about this, not ignorant.
Our country subsidizes these "Welfare Ranchers" which include the Hiltons, the Koch Brothers, Walmart womens, Ted Turner +etc etc we Americans are paying way too high a price for a damned hamburger, to the detriment of their health, as most beef is fed hormones + other harmful things. BOYCOTT BEEF Millionaires all of them and more goons+trolls out there, the bundy's for example =the brouhaha in Oregon a few years back :Malhuere" protest, the bundys were 20years late on grazing leases for their damned cattle, who pays for all this, "we do" $43 Million dollars worth.!!!
There is a rather insightful video by AWHC that offers one rather scientific viewpoint of the situation in the Red Desert so-called "Checkerboard" complex in Wyoming: th-cam.com/video/OEC_eI8MUU4/w-d-xo.html
@@drewnordgaard221 I beg to differ, if someone served me a juicy horse burger or fat horse steak I would eat it. People tend to lose perspective because of their emotions.
@@drewnordgaard221 That is a bet you would win because I sure do and she loves everything minute of it! Our perfect evening is when I come home from work to a perfectly cooked steak (preferably horse or unicorn) and after I eat every bite we make sweet love on a blanket made from baby seal fur.
The irony of the fat Greg guy...clearly he's eaten more then his share of Wendy's baconators, all of which came from factory farmed animals that lived their whole life in torment. Yet he just can't stand to see feral horses slaughtered....
If you need to wonder why your public lands are over grazed you need to look at......an invasive species....the horse. What would the response be if we started protecting CARP?
I adopted a few of the wild horses from The Bureau of Land Management and bought them to my farm in Puerto Rico. They are wild and I let them hang out down by the river that flows through the Middle of my farm. I can walk through them without any problems. I might adopt a few more.
I don’t think you really have horses
@@Bbtwink Do you think they care of what you think you can think whatever you want about people but I don’t mean it’s not true
Thank you for giving them back their lives! Your farm sounds really nice. Again, thank you!
"knowing that animals were being hunted down, slaughtered, butchered and sold as pet food just really burned me up." boy, do i have news for you...
That doesn't invalidate the way the horses are treated though, and all it does is lead to feeding your dog toxic, adrenaline infused meat.
still to this day !! Canada is selling horses to Japan!! for meat!! this makes me sick!! if it was,nt for horses we would never got around !!! they are amazing and smart sprits!!
need more predators to balance it out, wolves, mountain lions
There is no overpoplation, in fact there are 110 cows to 1=one Wild Horse, the BLM lies to all of us. Your idea is a sound one, they have killed off all the wolves as well, ruining any balance in nature, the BLM is a train wreck plain+simple.
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Cougars are FAR MORE numerous than wild horses. There is NO overpopulation of wild horses, but many lies are told against them. Cattle are given preference a million to one. You've believed the propaganda.
Yeah, I've got bad news about the wolf part. th-cam.com/video/wI1_yCQF6xo/w-d-xo.html
They're being hunted too. And where I live, mountain lions have already been hunted to extinction over here.
The american "wild horse" is as native to the continent as the white population.
Horses were inhabiting our lands here in America as early as when? Fossils of Wild Horses were found in Oregon state, million years old, so now tell me what??
Jojo Tamayo Ayo his point is that they became extinct and the wild horses we see today are descendants of domestic horses brought by Europeans
Granted, there aren't true wild horses in Europe either. Except for the Przewalski's horses in the Chernobyl exclusion zone. Also, that's mentioned in the video
You're dumb AF. Horses were on the North American continent millions of years before man. Read a book you inbred.
Wether or not they are native to the American continent, through fossil evidence or reintroduced. They have been a part of this land for hundreds of years now, they have just as much of a right to be here as we do. They are as native and entitled to the continent as we are. This idea that horses are the problem, maybe they are, but so are cattle and sheep, as well as us. Do we forget how many cattle there are compared to these wild horses? And the amount of damage they do to land as well. If the wild horse is bad then domestic cattle and sheep are just as bad.
Why would they search for homes for wild horses they didn't even tame? That's like snatching a gray wolf out of the wild and then locking them up in your house.
and they would love it. i should no. ive had wolves all my life. they bond to people. not aggressive as people think. coyote is the aggressor not the wolf. wolf gets blamed cause bigger, coyote ignored. dont make stupid statements
It's exactly that bad of an idea! You are correct! Besides, the land needs all native wildlife & horses evolved on North America & like all other native wildlife they keep the land healthy unlike the livestock that destroys the range, watersheds & native flora. Too many greedy, dumb people not enough basic decency & intelligence. US Bureau of Land Mgt is run by the dumbest, greediest rednecks on the planet.
So why don't they built farms for cows and sheep, while leaving a free area of the wild for the horses.
That was done, but the cattle ranchers and all others who make a living off killing the wild horses are the parasites that keep this cruelty running, they are basically breaking the law, as the Wild Ones are federally protected, on the books anyway, who in our country honors+follows these laws, not the welfare ranchers thats for sure, the pioneer woman=on TV and her ugly husband ladd, are making millions, a true disgrace to our country.
Because $.
I don’t know why they don’t just adopt a gradual population control sterilization method and just grow grass indoors for the cattle. Grass companies do it already. Seems cheaper.
they talk about birth control in this and its like....why dont they just castrate the male horses and then let them go. not every horse needs to be castrated but you could do it to a certain percent and it's fast and cheap. all you gotta do is clamp the testicles or even put a rubber band around them when they are young and they eventually die and fall off. sounds horrible but it's better than killing them and is really cheap. the ranchers need the land. i love horses but they are an invasive species that is not built to live in this environment. the pastures arent fit for them so it gets destroyed, this happens frequently with invasive species. i feel like the company that gets all the money to care for those horses is probably just pocketing most of it. i seriously do not understand why they are acting like nothing can be done. they could even use long acting birth control that lasts years on the females if they dont want to castrate males. that would be cheaper and easier. its probably just like the prison system, where they say they need so much to care for each horse and the government gives it to them...but then they only spend a fraction of what they get from the government and take the rest home.
@@wmd40
Wild horse herds maintain stable populations: records have been kept on many of them for 30 years, and their populations have remained stable. The long gestation period of the horse, followed by the years spent nursing her single foal before the mare is free to breed again, together with the limited number of breeding pairs in any given year, makes it clear that horses have a SLOW reproductive rate, NOT a fast one. Add to that, that Cougars and Wolves take foals, and you will see that they are only maintaining their numbers. The issue is NOT any problem with wild horses, but the GREED of humans. There are millions of cattle being given preference over the actual modest number of horses, and contrary to your notions, horses ARE built to live in this environment and have PROVEN that over the last 500 years and millennia long before. They are NOT an invasive species; it's the propaganda of the system that teaches people to believe such things. Wild horses migrate, so they eat lightly on the land, traveling as they go, which gives the vegetation time to regrow. Cattle, on the other hand, camp out next to their water source, eating the vegetation down to the ground and pulling it out by the roots, denuding the land. This has long been known, while they also eat the bark off trees, which kills trees, but horses don't do that. Have you seen the west? There is a tremendous amount of land that is not used. It's an agenda that is without truth or understanding of the fact that horses are a Keystone species such that they distribute seed, nutrients and enzymes everywhere they migrate, nourishing the land, enriching the soil, creating a better, richer environment for all species of Life on the land. Just like the most efficient way to regrow the rain forests is to reintroduce the elephant (another Keystone species for the same reason), the fastest, most efficient way to enrich the land in the west, is to let wild horses feed and migrate as they do. They are part of Nature, not outside it.
Here in Arizona we have several packs of wild horses including the Salt River Pack. I love seeing the horses and I would hate to see them disappear. I hope a solution can be found to strike a balance between these opposing forces. I’m not a fan of the BLM roundups. I think a huge responsibility lies upon the ranchers to sustainably graze their herds as well.
What I love about them is that they are keeping the river+creeks free of the stuff that clogs the water up, we all benefit from this but the BLM goons are just a bunch of stupid morons, who care only about $$$$$
@@jojotamayoayo1709 facts $.
This is difficult but I'm an equestrian and I think that if the birth control plan doesn't work, hunting of mustangs should be reinstated and regulated. What is happening to them now is no kinder than the fate of being hunted. The fact is that the wild mustang is an invasive species in the Americas. They weren't here first. We brought them here. Even without the cattle and sheep problem, the horses would eventually overpopulate themselves and cause their own starvation. They have no natural predators in North America, yet they reproduce like prey that needs to keep up with predation. I hate the idea of horses being hunted, but I hate the idea of them slowly starving even more.
We treat deer the same way. Deer are beautiful and should be preserved but we continue to hunt them to control their population. Why is that okay, but doing this for wild horses is not?
#savethehorses I have loved horses my whole life since I was 1 when I found out what a horse was called. I have always wished for a horse but I dont have a big yard and it's very costly. But I plan to get a bigger piece of land to get a wild horse in one of the round ups so it doesn't end it to a food industry.
I would like to have some of the horses
I'm pretty sure Native Americans (or as I like to call them, "real Americans") do not consider wild horses to be a positive symbol of how the "West was won". That's what really bothers me about this law. Another (lesser) thing that bothers me is that horses were introduced by Spaniards; horse aren't even native to America... Come to think of it, I guess that makes them a apt symbol.
Anyway, since they're not native, it seems a bit silly to be super concerned with their preservation. Besides, 20% growth (per year) is pretty darn fast! Seems like they wouldn't need THAT much protection. In the mean time, there are plenty of endangered species that DO need protection. It's pretty frustrating to know that they receive far less sympathy and government resources.
Because of their value as domesticated animals, horses are never going to go extinct. This just seems like a super disproportionate allocation of sympathy and federal resources.
just saying that nothing is american except native Americans because we are all immigrants
allyourcode I’m pretty sure I read somewhere that horses are actually native to America, they crossed the land bridge into Asia, and due to changing climate they died out in America
Current theory holds horses are native to the Americas and evolved here. They are NOT native to Asia, Europe or Africa and are recent immigrants. Only the modern horse Equidae is found there and only in the Americas can you see evolution of the horse through the eons. They crossed into Asia through the Berring land bridge into Asia where they became domesticated. About 10,000 years ago they died out with most of the mega fauna, possibly due to man coming here and wiping them and other large mammals out. Columbus brought horses back on his second trip where they re-established. 10,000 years is nothing in reality and most of North America was still prime habitat for horses.
Lets see, horses the same species that we domesticated are Native to N. Amer. Never, died out completely. Our wild are hybrids of horses that have always roamed this continent and those domestics we started bringing here since the 1400's. Elk came to North Amer. about the same time as human first did, around 14.000 years ago. Horses are the most Native having been in north Amer. longer than any other current hoofed animal. The modern horse almost for 4 million years. Its ancestors millions more before that. . Why is it so hard for people to understand a wild horse is just that, a Wild Native Animal.
And they are immagrants from Asia.....cliff
Cattle ranchers always gotta ruin everything
How?
Velma Johnston is on of my heroes
Velma Johnston is one of my hero's certainly, she worked so hard to try and stop this madness, the blm the usda the usfs,+more unfortunately somebody is making money off our tax dollars, for example Pioneer Woman who sells her trinkets to walmart, is making millions off holding our Wild horses then ship to slaughter.
Spirit :)
Diddo... as it was explained to me mankind is at the top of the food chain.... so that gives them the entitlement... so far from the original plan.
@@phillipbear5983 the command was to rule but not to abuse, rather steward and manage.
This is always a issue but there is still no answer to the problem. Both sides of the issue need to compromise
Wrong there is an answer, everyone needs to just butt out and leave nature alone, the wolves the horses donkeys, the sage grouse, but the money grubbers have killed off everything but the damned cows, Boycott Beef thats one answer to this issue.
11th Doctor sighting at 3:21
Why don't they just ammend the law allowing sustainable slaughter?
To most people in America eating a horse is like eating a cat or dog. Other people have no opinion of it. Most people don't want any sort of slaughter to be legal, and honestly if the BLM would listen to the advice they are given this wouldn't be a problem. They chose to ignore the study the Nation Academy of Science did, saying that there were better ways to manage the population. They also ignored all of the fertility control programs that have been recommended. The more you read into it the more you will understand why people are so against these roundups, and all of the errors the BLM has made. No news outlet is really going to tell you the whole story. You will either get one side or the other, and if you don't get that, the details you get are dated and, in some cases, untrue.
Why don't they just make the Ranchers graze THEIR sheep and Cattle that they SELL for profit on THEIR OWN LAND like the cattle ranchers in Florida and every other State on the East Coast and Mid West do. Florida is the second largest producer of beef in America. Florida ranchers DON'T get to raise and graze their cattle for FREE on PUBLIC Land They raise their livestock on land they OWN and PAY TAXES ON!!!!!!!11one
Gao, those ranchers DO pay fees for the right to graze on public land. www.blm.gov/press-release/blm-and-forest-service-announce-2018-grazing-fees
Horse's I love them I want to be one people don't care about horse's but I will start something it's called human horse were you can be a wild horse do everything like a horse
Anne, dog food etc.
Manageable numbers, manageable, common sense.
Why are people so upset about the idea of horses being slaughtered, but not people hunting deer? It's probably better to slaughter or hunt some of the horses and use the meat rather than to imprison wild horses.
Give them to police departments
Sad. Interesting story.
You are correct in your comment so it is.
There are no "farms" to built fences around. The farmers/ranchers are allowed to let their flocks graze on public aka government land. The wild horses also graze there. Do you help ranchers or help wild horses?
Most of the ranchers are wealthy examples The Waltons=Walmart, the Hiltons, the koch Brothers in the money they're all loaded and we're subsidizing them for their damned cattle.
ranchers pay $1.35/month per animal to graze on public lands.
So it’s either a large wild horse population or farm animals. Horses win every time, hooves down. 🐴
No they're not. Food for humans is way more important.
It's not a large wild horse population > that's one of their key lies. Wild horses are not overpopulated. Given the long gestation period of horses, followed by the years spend nursing her single foal before the mare is free to breed again, together with the limited number of breeding pairs in any given year, wild horses have a slow reproductive rate. Records have been kept on numerous mustang herds over the last 30 years, and the populations have remained stable. Cougars and Wolves take foals. Fact is, millions of cattle ($$$$$) are given preference over a modest number of wild horses, mustangs that will soon be extinct if man continues on his lying, greedy course. Add to that, that wild horses are a Keystone species, eating lightly as they migrate which gives time for regrowth, depositing seed, nutrients and enzymes everywhere they migrate, enriching the land, nourishing the soil, increasing vegetation growth for all the species that live on the range. Cattle, however, camp out next to their water source, eating the vegetation down to the ground, then pulling it up by the roots, denuding the land, and eating the bark of trees, which kills trees, and these things have LONG been known. It's an agenda, folks, and it's all about money.
Actually, regarding the wild horse "over-population" belief, contraception CAN work, it's just not being implemented properly.
I've followed these issues for over 25 years and it's complex. (There is more complexity to this controversy than any journal can cover in a 10 minute piece....)
For example: Part of the problem, strangely enough, is that the BLM is partially exacerbating the situation by helping the roundup contractors keep their living going: Stressful roundups actually contribute to a phenomenon called "compensatory breeding" by the wild mustangs.....
Well, some people are probably going to hate me for this, but maybe they should allow hunting of the wild horses to keep the population under control. It's better than them overgrazing the land till there is too little grass and they starve to death. If they regulate it like how they regulate hunting deer, then it should be fine. Maybe re-introducing more predators into the areas they are over populated would help too. I'm not really surprised that they are having trouble finding them homes because they are large animals who need a decent sized pasture and a lot of care. Most people don't have the time or space for them. The people that do only have two or three because that is what they can handle. Not many people go horse back riding.
Naw that’s totally reasonable
Why are horse lives less than cows or pigs?
All parts of the world have different views on “edible” animals. Who is correct? The US? Why? Ethically, eating an animal is eating an animal, whatever the species. You’d better be a vegetarian if you are against eating horse meat, to avoid hypocrisy. All livestock in America are invasive species and are detriment to the environment. The biggest problem with America’s horse issue is that a lack of definitive action has caused animal suffering. That is a human issue.
WTf??
@@victoriajenkins1424 What about Buffalo, they're not invasive, they're native.
Facts
@@peter_smyth true
Answer: Export them to Countries and People who love them and want them and will treat them well
Sad. Perhaps they should release the ones they have in captivity in places farther east. Spread them out a little.
Rina Thomson no
I do not know how a very rich and 'powerful' country could find it difficult to solve such a simple problem, there are a number of ingenious ways to turn the so-called nuisance into a resource, meaning keeping the wonderful horses with the number needed, save budget and get money over them!
It's all corruption in US Federal Gov & ranchers money laundering schemes & keeping Mexican & Canadian cartels happy while destroying wildlife, wildlands & watersheds. There's a huge backstory to this. US Dept of Interior is run by greedy, soulless criminals.
Unfortunately, not a "simple problem".....that is why it's so controversial and has been going on for over 50 years.....
Isn't it ironic.. We're the ones that brought them here, but now we want get rid of them! Interesting huh??
I think the Spanish did.
@@JuicyCharon And we don't want to get rid of them, but save the countryside from overgrazing. The solution is birth control, but we don't have the technology...
@@jackmorgan1677 : Actually, we DO have the technology, and contraception CAN work, it's just not being implemented properly.
I've followed these issues for over 25 years and it's complex. (There is more complexity to these issues than any journal can cover in a 10 minute piece....)
Part of the problem, strangely enough, is that the BLM is partially exacerbating the situation and helping the roundup contractors keep their living going: stressful roundups actually contribute to a phenomenon called "compensatory breeding" by the wild mustangs.
If u go wrangle a wild horse your self can u keep it if u take care of it
Real life isn’t Red Dead Redemption, I’m afraid
Positive usage.
But not today ...
Bojack Horseman anyone?
NO.. #WildMustangs are #NOT SpinishHorses
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We manage wild deer, have to cull them when they overpopulated (sad but necessary)
and they have natural predators (wolves, bears)
@@Sunlemming
Wild horses have natural predators too, Cougars and Wolves. The only reason why people think that hunting elk and deer is necessary, is because arrogant man, devoid of understanding, wiped out all the wolves in the latter part of the nineteenth century into the beginning of the twentieth century. Wild horses are NOT overpopulated >> Given the length of horse gestation, followed by the years spent nursing her single foal before the mare is free to breed again, together with the limited number of breeding pairs in any given year, it is Not possible for horses to have anything but a slow reproductive rate. Records have been kept on numerous mustang herds for 30 years, and they keep stable populations. There is No overpopulation. The fact is, that millions of cattle are given preference over modestly sized mustang herds, because humans are greedy. There are lots of lies against wild horses, because that is the agenda of greedy men. Wild horses migrate, eating lightly as they go, giving time for vegetation to grow; they are a Keystone specie, depositing seed, nutrients and enzymes everywhere they migrate, enriching the land, nourishing the soil, increasing vegetation growth, that makes the environment better and richer for all the species that live in it. Cattle camp out next to their water source, eat the vegetation down to the ground then pull it up by the roots, denuding the land, eating the bark of trees which kills trees, and horses don't do these things. Wild horses are being falsely blamed, and people lacking understanding believe those lies.
There are way too many people in these comments who think ranchers are greedy and that horses should be protected, even though they're not native to the Americas. You know what we should protect? Wolves, deer, and eagles.
Hater
Sheer avarice and hubris of politicians and ranchers, one can only hope they are struck by a terminal illness and fade into obscurity.
Truly their karma is really a b---tch
are you a child?
Mustangs are a symbol of our wild west, and they really shouldn't be monitored by the BLM which puts them in a bad spot. Something that I find rather ridiculous is the fact that there are numerous "wild west experiences" for tourism, but the BLM is not capitalizing on it to help supplement their funds. How much does it cost to use that helicopter? Why not take some of those tourism resources and have people pay to help round up the horses? Also remember adopt a whale? Why not adopt a horse? STOP banging your heads against a wall thinking that something needs to change and start working on finding ways to make it change. Make the BLM the BLM and have the horses managed by a federal heritage group. Use tourism to 1. round up the animals in a more humane way, and 2. use tourism and everyone's love of the mustangs to promote and raise awareness as well as funds. Take the offer globally as there are many other Nations fascinated by our American Wild West as we are of the English Monarchy.
maybe you should put the cattle in the holding pasture and leave the dam horses alone
hey are we gonna talk about how these "wild" horses are an invasive species without a natural place within america's food chain, with a relatively large ecological impact or are we just going to spend the next century refusing to address that because they're pretty?
Well I would take a few stallions keep 'em and then take the other stallions and geld them and try to tame them and then sell them!
A Judas horse...funny
Quite the political reading, but the horse was regarded as an extremely positive development to the Plains tribes.
Just let them free his right what to do with the wild horses we save ?
Is this a serious dilemma really? Just butcher over populated horses while expanding wild predator population such as wolves.
Wrong you forgot the fact that the BLM has dispatched all the wolves, who should have been left alone on our public lands. So now tell me what??
bloody silly
They are feral horses.....not wild horses.
Floyd Gondoli they also don’t belong here.
@@MrZachgonz that's what feral means
@@androlibre9661 Feral means a domestic animal population gone wild again. It doesn't mean they don't belong there.
I don't see a problem with using horses as dog food.
THERE WILL NEVER BE ENOUGH HORSES
:D
The phrase there is just so much grass out there and it is already spoken for (with a pic of sheep) is misleading. Wild horse areas are only on 3% of Fed. land, other livestock on 95%. Only a tiny fraction of ranchers have permits on herd areas, and guess what, the horses were there first. Livestock only granted in in 1976 after the industry boohooed.
You realize horses were brought in at the exact same time as livestock right?
The issue is that for all the claims of environmental activism, the protection of wild horses in America really takes no precedent over ranchers. Wild horses are not native to the US and have actually had a severe impact on the local ecology. So when ginger says 'oh blame the livestock' it's a bit rich since the horses are as alien to that environment as the sheep and cattle are but at least provide food etc.
Bear in mind as well that this comment is coming from someone who is vegetarian and pro environmental activism. I support the reintroduction of wolves for example. But when you have a case of a feral species clearly and severely impacting both the environment and local industry when it was never meant to be there to begin with, you clearly have a problem with the animal being there.
If you've ever looked into the history of the Americas and if you claim to care so much about the environment and ecology then you should know that horses are indeed native to America. The genus eques first evolved in America and the horses are designed for North America so I have no idea where you're getting this "severe impact" on the local ecology from. Compare 18,000 horses (in total) to millions of sheep and cattle and please tell me that horses are the ones causing the shortage in the grass. The only reasons horses ever left the continent is because of the land bridge that formed. Millions of native animals migrated across is searching for new land to expand and ended up not being able to come back. They're not alien or invase, they're an original native species that have been reintroduced which again is something that is proven to help ecosystems not hurt them. The best way to heal an ecosystem is to restore it and fill in the niches, but since cattle and sheep have taken up the niche of large grassing mammal it has now become a competition for resources. I really hope you're just too young to have learned about this, not ignorant.
no evidence that horses haven't been here since before the Conquistadors
They have NOT had a negative impact on local ecology. You are either uninformed or dense
this is so 2;00 omg
Ok then have a hunting season? I know it sound bad....or stop fertile. Or have the farmers stay on there side of the land....i dont know.
Good eatin'.
Why don't they just round them up twice per year and gold the stallions and colts?
Let the American people go out and hand pick a horse off the range.
Hand pick a nice hoof to take to the face later on
why don't these farmers just build fences around their farms,
then the horses won't eat their cows and sheep food.
Too lazy to watch their herds+flocks, they just let them go wherever+then make up stories about the few remaining wild ones. They're all crooks the BLM=bureau of land management,+the politicians, including trump who is pro slaughter, in 2020 he should be voted OUT OUT OUT.
Because the cows and shep aren't on "farms", but on open public land. The farmers don't own the land they graze their animals on, so they aren't allowed to enclose it.
True
Omg turn them loose . Or use and train for
Never seen a lion or tiger hunt a horse
maybe zebras!
Ever heard of Cougars? Cougars far outnumber wild horses throughout the west, and yes, cougars take foals, just as wolves do in their regions.
Horses aren’t Native to The US though? I don’t get it.
Wrong mister, fossil horse bones were found in the state of Oregon, do your home work B4 you spout off.
I have four horses but it is. Fine that. R. No Harm
is it true that you don't eat horse meat in the USA? i'm just curious if what i heard is true or not, no judging, sorry if i made mistakes, i'm still learning english... :-)
+valzerna No. Americans (by and large) regard horse meat as disgusting, even though the vast majority have never tried it before. Another way to look at it is that the latter fact is a cause of the former.
What meats are acceptable is admittedly pretty arbitrary, but also pretty hard to change.
we do not eat horses in our country (US) nor dogs and cats
A Judas horse, lol.
This is what happens when you introduce non native species. We either need to introduce predators--probably wolves--or not cry so much when they are killed be people. Or if the public votes for it, we can stop grazing on public land and have the cost of beef go up.
the wolves are already there along with coyotes and feral dogs
I’m sorry, I love horses, but this is absolutely ridiculous. Reintegration of buffalo should be a way higher priority than maintaining a population of an invasive species.
Luckily ranchers are a dying breed. But they'll take down what they can with them
zh11147 more land for the wild animals who were there first. What was stolen will be returned
Horses are not native to the US.
If you've ever looked into the history of the Americas and if you claim to care so much about the environment and ecology then you should know that horses are indeed native to America. The genus eques first evolved in America and the horses are designed for North America so I have no idea where you're getting this "severe impact" on the local ecology from. Compare 18,000 horses (in total) to millions of sheep and cattle and please tell me that horses are the ones causing the shortage in the grass. The only reasons horses ever left the continent is because of the land bridge that formed. Millions of native animals migrated across is searching for new land to expand and ended up not being able to come back. They're not alien or invase, they're an original native species that have been reintroduced which again is something that is proven to help ecosystems not hurt them. The best way to heal an ecosystem is to restore it and fill in the niches, but since cattle and sheep have taken up the niche of large grassing mammal it has now become a competition for resources. I really hope you're just too young to have learned about this, not ignorant.
@christine lane Luckily for you ranchers graze calves on public land which end up in a feed lot. Later to be found on your McDonalds hamburger
@@karljohnson4178 Too much logic for poor Christine...
Sell them to mexico, they use them every day.
Turned into dog food? Perfectly good meat, that!
they may be beautiful and a symbol of strength but they are also invasive and harming the ecosystem
research proves that cattle and sheep do the damage, not wild horses
Love horses? Stop eating cows and sheep! Get "livestock" breeders off protected horse land!
You speak the truth, most beef is full of hormones that mmake us all fat, probably other meats as well.
Our country subsidizes these "Welfare Ranchers" which include the Hiltons, the Koch Brothers, Walmart womens, Ted Turner +etc etc we Americans are paying way too high a price for a damned hamburger, to the detriment of their health, as most beef is fed hormones + other harmful things. BOYCOTT BEEF
Millionaires all of them and more goons+trolls out there, the bundy's for example =the brouhaha in Oregon a few years back :Malhuere" protest, the bundys were 20years late on grazing leases for their damned cattle, who pays for all this, "we do" $43 Million dollars worth.!!!
There is a rather insightful video by AWHC that offers one rather scientific viewpoint of the situation in the Red Desert so-called "Checkerboard" complex in Wyoming:
th-cam.com/video/OEC_eI8MUU4/w-d-xo.html
Lol the bit about the Judas horse was funny. #houseslave
Sounds like dog food was working...(I’m not proud of saying that)
Let. Thim. Go plz
Why can't we eat them anymore? They look like they would be pretty tasty!
You need help
@@drewnordgaard221 I beg to differ, if someone served me a juicy horse burger or fat horse steak I would eat it. People tend to lose perspective because of their emotions.
@@drewnordgaard221 Just my wife....
@@treestooges i bet you do
@@drewnordgaard221 That is a bet you would win because I sure do and she loves everything minute of it! Our perfect evening is when I come home from work to a perfectly cooked steak (preferably horse or unicorn) and after I eat every bite we make sweet love on a blanket made from baby seal fur.
Sell them to the slaughter house
Far to many city people who know next to nothing about wild life, having opinions.
Use them for dog food again. problem solved.
Dusty OldBones you are so cruel
News flash I don't care
Boycott Beef" makes us fat.......
Why don't they just eat them. I thought Americans loved meat.
The irony of the fat Greg guy...clearly he's eaten more then his share of Wendy's baconators, all of which came from factory farmed animals that lived their whole life in torment. Yet he just can't stand to see feral horses slaughtered....
Sorry he’s not a good enough activist for you. I hope you’re out there fighting for a cause you believe in.
If you need to wonder why your public lands are over grazed you need to look at......an invasive species....the horse. What would the response be if we started protecting CARP?
Wrong Tweedie!! the invasive species are the cattle the ratio of cattle is 100 to one + the one is the wild horses, so do the mmath??
Well I would take a few stallions keep 'em and then take the other stallions and geld them and try to tame them and then sell them!