Two things: 1. Please run the wiring to put all solar control units inside the trailer. Over time, they will get beat up in the cargo area. 2. Put a 110 outlet behind the TV. It isn’t a smart TV, and since many people watch TV online, an Apple TV or the like needs to be employed, thus the need for the outlet. Also, should an owner want to upgrade TVs later, the outlet allows for a change to something off the shelf. Thanks!
Hi Josh! I love your enthusiasm and humor! I am a 58 year old woman living in a Forest River Salem Cruise Lite 196BH. I bought it new in 2016 after my husband passed away. In 2021 I became disabled and had to sell my home. My kids are grown and on their own now so I do not need the bunk beds. I have discovered that this camper is to small for permanently living in, even for one person. I love the Ember Overland 201FBQ!!! I wish I could afford one of those! Since you wanted our feedback, here we go… A oven is definitely needed. To plug in a toaster oven or Chefman oven/air fryer will take up ALL the counter space. Oven please….😌 All cabinets should have doors! It is hard enough to keep your belongings from flying around but even harder when there is no doors to help contain everything. 😌 Cabinet doors please. One last thing. My camper did not have hydraulic lifts on the bed. I installed them myself. It is very important to have easy and safe access to storage under the bed. Maybe some sliding drawers inside the bed storage so you can pull things forward easier…. Sort of like in cabinets for pots and pans etc…. I want to buy a Travel Trailer from you. Please let me know how to do this? Thank you 🙏🏻
I love the versatility of the MSL cargo/bunk/office/garage space. We would use that space for all 4 options at various times. Love the walk around bed. A no slide option would be nice as well.
I agree that the bathroom sink should not be plastic. I also suggest that the put in a folding or removable shelf half way or 2/3s up in the large in/out storage area would make it more usable if not using it for an outdoor fridge.
I concur that a convection micro would be excellent. With that large in/out storage compartment, that outside door needs a better locking system beside those cheap twisty locks.
@@StressLessCamping that is strange. I have one in my Rpod (a smaller camper than this Ember), and can say that it’s not that large a micro/conv item. And I don’t understand why they wouldn’t have access to them, owners can even get replacements at places like Camping World….
@@JoshtheRVNerd You know , especially on the 201FBQ, there is such good kitchen storage that it wouldn't hurt to delete most of that storage to either side of the microwave and put in a big 30 inch residential style convection microwave.
Great looking rig! This has seriously gained my attention! I'd much rather see them delete the black tank, upgrade the toilet to a waterless flush like a Cinderella incinerator or Laveo dry flush and add a 30gal freshwater tank. It would also be great to be able to add on to their max solar. Like putting 1200w up top and 800ah worth up lithium under the bed. Make it a true off-road/off-grid rig. Other than that, it's perfect. Great video as always Josh!
Also @josh, what do you think about the notion of swapping the placement of the stove further away from the sink? So prep and washing food/dishes won’t splash onto stove or whatever you are cooking?
EMBER Please make the bunks more (vertically) spaced out!!!! Not like sleeping in a coffin. I've owned 5 bunk houses and they all are the same. EMBER seems different than the rest. Please make them bigger!
They’re kind of limited by the height of the camper there unfortunately And an 8ft ceiling means a crazy tall exterior people won’t like May I ask what the proper clearance is Sam??
@@JoshtheRVNerd Josh, I do understand the limitations:) but still there is more space. It would come at the cost of losing the outside kitchen or under bed storage (I understand that) However Ember seems like they are willing to do things differently. They took the first step already by making that "flex" room option. Better spacing on bunks would make them more usable for big kids/small adults. Josh, your the Man!!! I am part of your original 5k nerd heard and have met you in person!!!
Great video! A curtain track option would be a must to separate the queen bed area from the rest of the camper, especially the bunk option one! I would also love to see a king bed option! I also love the bigger shower on the 221MDB!! Ember we’re grateful your listening to your customers and building bigger units for families!
This one is great! Walk around queen is a must for us. The outlets are a great and the hidden wardrobe is a great selling point. Don’t mind not having no oven. At. All.
I like this trailer would like to see a dinette option, a stove/oven option Rectangle sink. I appreciate the no speaker holes on the outside. Your factory tours are are always informative.
I would kind of like a fireplace, but that’s because I don’t understand the water heater/furnace stuff. That’s the only thing I can kind of gripe about. It’s an awesome Camper!!
A built-in electric heater (safer than portables getting knocked around) would be great. And for the more practical of us, do we really need a fake fire? So a small built-in heater would take hardly any space yet still push out 1500 watts. Wanna watch a fire, go outside, especially for a smaller model like this.
@8:54 instead of a door, how about a small 4 mounting point flexible cargo net, one for each shelf that is around 75% of the height between each shelf? The only thing I can't figure out because I'm not in front of it in person would be the mounting points for the nets. I don't think the outside face is an option as, depending on the mounting option, that would likely create a snag point. Maybe 2 on the shelf and the other 2 on the inside face or the the middle face of the cabinet or all 4 on the inside face or the the middle face of the cabinet. That way though, if you aren't using all the shelves, you only have to put the nets up on the ones you are actively using and Ember won't have to fight to add a more tradition door in an already confined space.
Ember continues to impress. It’s nice to see them respond to comments, and quickly. I love the bunk house model in particular. That would suit me and my family quite nicely. It goes without saying (well maybe not, as I’m saying it 😁) their quality and design are top notch.
They definitely need something to protect items from the storage next to the fridge from falling out. Maybe clip up netting or a small wooden bar or dowl blockingbut you can still access the shelf.
This is a great floor plan, but… I do miss the added seating flexibility that the shorter version with the Murphy bed offers. A few other thoughts: - The added kitchen space is very desirable - TV location is much better here than the shorter version - Will they offer this with the new modular layout (removable bunks with swing up door/window - SO nice to see an OEM listen to their customers and you - LOVE those flip-up shelves in the cabinets/closets - Agree - don’t use a plastic sink in the bathroom. Not for this price point!
@@shannonstewart4792 I hope they offer both versions without the slide. I like the residential queen. These mattresses always suck. First job is replacing it and that would be difficult with the two piece Murphy bed.
201FBQ - this is as close to the “perfect” couples tv I have seen. This encapsulates a lot of features that I have seen in various other models that I wish were wrapped up all in one. Not going to get into too much detail, but I love the fact that the entry door is on the far side of the trailer. I hate doors next to the bed. Great video and totally appreciate your efforts in reviewing RV’s. When I’m ready for the next one, I will travel out to you and give you the sale. Anyway, the current build you reviewed my only wishlist item would be that there were an option to eliminate the behind the couch storage (for me there is plenty already) and give us a reclining chairs option. It could totally be done even with the table in place. Lastly the small storage area between door and fridge, I like what they’ve done with the shelves, however I would like some sort of door or accordion type pull down to keep whatever was on the shelves or stored in there, like fishing rods, in place. Just my 2 cents, but this model, with all of the features is so close to my “perfect” camper. One thing I forgot, never need a microwave. Hopefully that is an option and storage cabinets would be stard. Thanks Josh, as always, you rock!
LOL on the spellchecks -- I cannot tell you how much I feel you on that one. I have the ability to type fast and accurately.. until THE VERY LAST WORD OF A POST. I will screw it up, hit "send," then have to edit/fix it like every other time I type something out. It's... sigh.. it's annoying [Edit] true to form.. mistyped annoying and had to fix it
You know what else would be cool under a Murphy bed .. some sort of dinette or desk situation. There is a Canadian B+ company that has one. That way you could have a sit down eating, extra seating or project area when you need it.
Well done! I like everything about it but with recliners as opposed to the dinofa. As for no oven, you can always get a Coleman camp oven to set on the burner of the stove. Again, well done!
There are so many things to love about this RV, especially the dual-axle independent suspension, the lack of cheap plywood in the structure, and the very attractive interior decor. But since you asked for feedback, here goes . . . The corner floor-to-ceiling wall cabinet in the bedroom doesn't seem very usable. What can you really store in that small triangle of space? It just seems an odd shape to accommodate clothing (I see needing to fold all my T-shirts and underwear into small triangles). Also, I'm not a fan of that outdoor kitchen pass-through. It seems like a neat idea, but I don't actually see using it as intended. I think that space would be better served with a large set of drawers or pull-out shelves. Finally, I've used small round kitchen sinks before and they really aren't practical. Washing moderately sized pots and pans always poses a challenge. Oh yeah, the plastic bathroom sink is a total bust.
The 201FBQ is really close to my dream camper! As a big guy, I agree that the toilet and shower are a bit small. The bathroom on the 221MDB looks much better, but I don't need/want the bunks. I love the "camp kitchen" replacement area. The only other "nice to have" feature I would want is some sort of privacy curtain for the bed area. I assume these would be 30A service, and a 13,500 non-ducted AC unit? Way to go Ember!
Ohh man.... Josh did a video with the "bunk" model last week that was wide open and could be used for so many things... I'll see if I can find it for you...
1. Two burner stove with more storage space and no oven - WIN - having just a bit more counter space makes up for it. 2. Love the sturdy independent suspension 3. Would like to see a theater seat option (again like Rockwood) where the center arm folds up and permits curled up napping. Would like the mini tables and have them fit into the side cup holders. 4. Want to see the bunk options with the exterior door. If that would require and east/west bed, that's fine. Don't compromise with designing for a king bed. Would be interested in the twin beds concept. Especially if you could invent a way to insert a portable desk on one side. 5. And spend $10 more (stop doing what everyone else does) and put in a bathroom faucet where you can actually get your hands under it. 6. And please don't follow the crowd by adding goobs of stupid swooshes and stickers. Keep it clean. 7. And why not a built in exterior ladder? Who wants to store/find/unfold and setup a rickety portable ladder. That is the worst part of this trailer so far. You mention and optional telescoping ladder? Hope that-s permanently attached? 8. I watch a number of RV user FB pages. It's amazing how many battery problems folks are having. When do you switch from AC to DC, how do you it, did I kill my battery, etc, etc. In the future it would be great to design something that is more automated or sensing so all of these electrical issues are lessened and you don't need to be an EE to figure it out. 9. Battery shutoff switch in poor location; to easy to hit and break off. 10. Repeat complaint - Don't like the trapezoid window covers. 221mdb - YAY - Add theater seats! Arrgh - bendy bed NG 191msl - Come on, show us! Bendy beds NG - deal breaker And for the ultimate bad idea - Use a cheap TV projector instead of a TV. I see plenty less than $150 and many less than $100. Don't know how good they are. Put the projector under the slide roof and have a pull down screen over the sink area. Because that current location is pretty bad even though you tried your best.
So there’s a lot to unpack here but there are actually a large number of people who do not want a built on exterior ladder so they can have more freedom to use the rear cargo receiver. More common in a specialty class like this vs a traditional camper All great stuff here though. Ty for the time it took to write this
Love the 221MDB....only suggestions would be an accordion door ( something better than a curtain), extra window on the front curb side, and maybe an option for an regular/convection oven. Great camper though 👌.
I would love for there to be a slider door separation for the bedroom area. Convection microwave would be nice TV / fireplace for heat with just electric. Love the tv storage/closet area!! The camp kitchen option area. It would be great if that small little pantry next to the fridge would be able to be rolled out as a unit
I Love the 4 wheel approach - please advice when you will have inventory. One product enhancement suggestion: PLEASE OFFER THESE MODELS WITH A Murphy Bed or a Sleeper Couch that is 66” wide or introduce a Twin Bed Version that could then convert to a king size with a center fill in Section. These two bed alternatives are ideal for smaller recreational vehicles and a good Murphy bed is my first choice. An other enhancement could be a slight modification the the bath door ( it would allow easier access to to the flex space of the 191MSL and would even allow for the use of an additional Euro Style Char or the set-up of an “office” with better access. Also please provide sufficient wiring size for a 3000W inverter Last but not least these models that you are “pre-viewing” appear to be shown on the Ember layouts, but it is not clear of they are the New 4Wheel model or the 2Wheel version. Ember might want to consider better presentation and clarity on their website if they are. Thanks
Awesome to see the dual axle trailers from Ember! Please build the 190MDB floor plan on the 22 foot chassis with a fixed East / West Queen and the option to delete the outdoor kitchen. We would prefer the additional storage under the beds and without the front Murphy bed the fixed upper cabinets over the Queen would be possible 🇨🇦
@@JoshtheRVNerd I agree with your comments in the video too that a version without the slide would be a cleaner look and with the floor plan flipped with the couch on the curb side the kitchen could be significantly bigger with the 3 extra feet of frame!
Like it a lot agree on the convention oven. I am concerned about cargo weight. 55 gallons of water is 458 lbs. take away the 1320 and you are down to 861 lbs, basic gear is atleast 200lbs. now you are less then 700lbs of cargo. Do they warranty you can travel with fresh water?
Very very nice. I love when manufacturers listen to their customers. I wish them much success in the future. Something I'm wondering is if there are plans for even bigger trailers in the future or do want to see how it goes with what they have?
This one is the one I've been looking for. Off-road capability for extended stays. Or pull in to a high end campground and turn heads. Since this is a true off-road unit... possibly another spare tire option. Possibly a offroad style bumper with swing away tire mounts....just a thought...... let me know when to place a order...
They're actually now live in production and on our facility grounds! Here's a first-run 201FBQ ► bit.ly/3I5FubT And their first 221MDB bunk mode JUST landed. Footage for that will be coming in a day or two So.. just drop our team a note when you're ready! :)
Love this trailer and off road capability. So made for boondocking, would love to see option for 12 volt refrigerator and 12 volt a/c!! Must have for boondocking
@@johnvowell6348 can someone upgrade to the max solar package AFTER they've purchased the rv? Some people may have to save up more money for the upgrade or want to see how it is without max solar first.
@@shannonstewart4792 In many cases you are better off adding your solar system aftermarket. Most factory installed systems aren't done that well. They particularly like to skimp on the quality if the wiring, which may be the most important element of a well designed solar system. If you don't want to do the installation yourself, there are many talented solar system installers throughout the US. I have worked with excellent installers across my stomping grounds in AZ, OR and ID. If I get an Ember, I'll order it with the minimum solar package and put a real system in. It can be more expensive because you can build a system using best in class components, but worth it if you fulltime in the trailer (and, like me, hate generators!).
My husband & I absolutely love this new couples Ember! It's amazingly perfect for us. I love to give input regarding different motorhomes & travel trailers & I often do. My husband John & I purchased our Safari Trek at your family business, a few years ago, in Coldwater. Although, we love our Trek, we are getting older & are both retired & seek another mode of full timers, with all of the newer technologies, including the great off roading capabilities that this model offers. I appreciate the inputs regarding the shades, on the best windows ever. This is the best floorplan in a towable we've seen. We have around 150 Facebook pages, regarding different makes, models, motorhomes & travel trailers. My husband is a semi retired RV Inspector & we have traveled all over the country doing inspections for people. We love RVs & are constantly looking for something that fits us perfectly. I think that in this this one, we have met our match.❤️😊
In the 221MDB I think even better location for the entertainment and more storage could be achieved. Move the microwave over slightly so it is right next to the fridge and put the tv next to the microwave over the kitchen. Then use the same tv mount as in the 201FBQ allowing for storage behind the tv. This would allow for direct viewing from the slide and the swing arm allows for direct viewing from the Murphy sofa. The area where the tv is currently located would then be freed up for a full floor to ceiling pantry that could be hanging or shelf storage…
I love the storage at the head of the queen beds. My current camper has an open space/shelf/counter below the hanging storage and then a drawer below. I can't tell you how many times I have hit my head in the middle of the night when I roll over! I have resorted to stuffing a pillow in that area and then still hit my head when the pillow falls out. I must admit I am not a real "happy camper" when I get my head wacked when I am still asleep. I also love the the light and plugs at the head of the bed. I end up fishing a power cord to a hidden outlet and then knock it out of the outlet when we put the murphy bed up. Good job Ember. We are looking to purchase our retirement trailer in a couple of years, and Ember is definitely on my radar!
In a round about way, I've come back through the recent Ember videos. I would love to see the dual axle bunkhouse with the Ember Track like the single axle, making the bunk space convertible. That would also necessitate adding a cargo door in the back. I don't know if that is possible, but that would definitely add significantly to the value of the dual axle bunkhouse.
This is absolute perfection……to me. I’m a solo camper and this is amazing. I don’t care about the oven, I don’t use mine. I currently have a 2020 Dutchmen Kodiak 201qb and without a doubt, this will be my next camper. I don’t have a slide in mine and this Ember will be perfect. I love the way the TV opens out to the bed area. The only thing I will change, if possible, is to switch out the microwave to a convection/microwave. That’s it, everything else is perfect for my needs. Well done Ember!! I look forward to getting mine when available for purchase. This is what I’ve been looking for.
@@JoshtheRVNerd If that was the only “problem” when the time comes, I’d be more than willing to source it myself. Everything else is perfect. I love the Ember product.
Yay!!! Woohoo! Tandem axle/ 4 wheel independent suspension! 🎉👏👏👏 Loving all that storage! , @JoshtheRVNerd , you mentioned possible twin beds - how about an option for 2 twins/convertible to king? Rockwood Mini Lite has a model with that option. Ember Crew, you guys are knocking it out of the park with these newest models! Awesome job, guys! We appreciate Josh giving us a great sneak peek tour!
Yeah “how” the twin beds are done will be interesting to see A convertible king is cool but loses storage while twin-only still allows for center storage..
I love that idea with the 22. Perhaps with a curtain track to separate the sleeping areas for families. Though in that larger model perhaps an oven as well. Can’t wait to see pricing on that one. Glad to see this sneak peek.
I love the 201FBQ layout, well thoughtout appointments and storage. I like the full size queen bed, bath could be just a touch larger. Toilet access appears to be limited for those of us with the need for a bit more room. I am not wild about the storage behind the sofa, looks difficult to reach things. How about putting an exterior access door for that area!!! With the max solar package and a generator this would be the perfect off grid unit. Trailing link road gear would be excellent for possible rough ground travel. I would also consider another max air fan in the living area for thosse days when you need some air movement but don't need to run the AC.
Like the looks of these trailers a LOT!! Agree with some of the earlier comments though. Would love to see a 221MSL with the Ember track system, a square sink, a convection micro combo, and the battery / inverter electronics inside the cabin, possibly near the main control panels. I get that wiring may not allow that, but it seems they could easily go up the interior wall near the door maybe? I have two teenagers and when we rented a NorthTrail similar to the Rockwood UL 2509S, they hated climbing into those tight bunks. I love the MSL type bunks that give the kids some standing room and ability to easily get into their sleeping area. Plus with the Ember track accessories, you can hang expandable cargo nets, or hang bags for their stuff on the bathroom side wall. Don't understand why more manufacturers are not doing this! Kids grow up to adult size eventually and need a little space of their own! Grand Design has a new Transcend model, the 235BH that puts the bunks in the slide where the kids can easily get in and still be part of the conversation if they want. Love the concept, just wish it was in a trailer without wood construction and Azdel sides. Your videos have been very helpful in the search for the perfect RV. Just still doesn't exist yet! Ember looks like they are getting very close though!
The 201FBQ is a beautiful RV. For me, I would recommend eliminating the pantry by the door since they added a large pantry between the bathroom wall and the sofa. That way they could have the larger bathroom and shower like in the 221MDB. Would also like to see larger overhead cabinets above the bed and an open cabinet in the bathroom to store towels above the toilet. And since there’s no oven, a convection microwave option.
Love everything about it!. A twin bed would be a cool option. Don't know if I would go with it, because they did such a good job with the queen. I love the twin mini Winnie but this one beats it...
Love what you are doing here with the tandem!!! 3 design Ideas my wife and I really appreciate in our 18' Zeppelin. * Ditch the slide and make the queen a murphy bed with couch combo and table. *Need an oven because I'm a chef. *Wife says that without a bathtub it's a "deal breaker"
Really like the 201FBQ! I'd want a convection/micro, windows on the sides of the slide (or better yet if they are building a no-slide option, same build length of this layout!), we have the alumi-tread manual stairs on our current trailer and I vastly prefer those over the solid-step. The solid-step was on a trailer we rented before purchasing, and it became a deal-breaker for us as you couldn't access the trailer at some rest stops. I know that's an unpopular opinion with some, but we also find there is less dirt in the trailer when you don't have to flip the stairs up into it. I see some asking for theater seats, and my only opinion there is to please leave off the heat/massage/ugly-accent-lights if they add this. Our's have only been turned on (repeatedly) by accident and are getting unplugged as soon as we can figure out how to get to the plug - what a waste!
Really like what Ember is doing. With this longer model, the idea I mentioned on the 191MSL video, I think would be easier to pull off. That's do to a twin bed floorpan like what's in the Airstream Flying Cloud 25RB Twin model, but with the E-track based beds in the back. With sets of E-track bunks on both sides and maybe a small door in the middle of the back wall like in the bunk house models, it would function as a sort of non-motorized toy hauler, be able to sleep a whole family and on a rainy day, the back area could be re-configured to a play area or a place to setup folding chairs. Certainly, with the back fully open, all the mechanicals would need to be in the front, so I don't know what that would for hitch weight, but if the front had a big u-dinette like the airstream I think there would be room for it, and with all the flexibility for storage in the back, not having front passthrough storage I think would be understandable.
Comment #301. The outside small door. Can also make loading and unloading so much easier. Also a small box could be added for a small generator. A little more tongue weight yes. But the height and a good lockable box. Will make it harder to steal.
Biggest knock is the shower. Would love to see the rectangle and move the sink out entirely if necessary. Kitchen sink is right outside so I'd think you could use that and maybe increase pantry/towel storage as well. That shower in the second one is amazing tho.
Wow. Love this. I’ve been holding out for the MSL (the bunks on tracks idea is simply amazing) but wishing it had dual axles and a walk around bed. Now I’m hoping they will do this version with the MSL bunks, that would be perfect!!
Embers look really solid and the solar options are awesome! The brand just really stands out to me. Love the walk around standard queen! It makes a difference when your husband is 6'3"! Josh- as always your knowledge depth is impeccable! and amazing!
Love the improvements! Yes to king bed. Yes to microwave convection oven. Can you fit a flip up table somewhere for more prep space? Can you add hangar hooks in cabinet beside fridge in case it is use for coats? Can I win one of these, please? Thank you, Josh.
Went to look at the Ember a few weeks ago. Didn’t purchase because the interior walls seems so weak. Thought I was going to send my hand through the wall trying to plug something in. The draws were wobbly and weak as well. Impressed with everything else. If it wasn’t for that, I would have probably purchased one. I would like to see a bunk model with the walk around queen bed and no slide. And, beef up the interior.
Very interesting as to their development. Curious to see if they come out with a larger using geared toward a full time life. Say a 30 footer. That would peak my interest.
I just started the research for a small off-road capable RV for my retirement and this perfect. Ticks off everything I was hoping to find, the only thing I would like to see is a better sealed underbelly pan. I’d be willing to pay extra for an aluminum sheet underbelly. Thanks for this video. I’m currently remodeling my DS3612 Raptor into a tiny home and I just picked up an old aluminum sign that I’m going to use to create a removable panel in the underbelly so that I can access The tank valves easily. That would be a nice addition to this model so that the inevitable repair or replacement of a valve is easy.
Regarding Solar Panel Mounting - Carry those front 'shark fin' rails back along both sides so you can mount lots of solar panels in a rack system instead of poking holes in the roof. Look at the Imperial Outdoors rail/rack system on the X195 and X145. More panels and bigger batteries!
Very promising unit, and overall I’m interested. On the one hand I love the full privacy bathroom door with no gap at the top, on the other hand I question how the AC cool air will get through. I also which that RV mfgrs would add some assist type grab bars for step up shower enclosures. This floor plan is almost perfect for me, and I would gladly switch from my Rpod. Josh, could you fit laid out in any direction on that sofa?
@@JoshtheRVNerd thank you for your reply. My partner is 6’4 (we sometimes sleep apart), so my Rpod replacement search goes on…, though I’m looking forward to seeing how that bunk house unit finishes up. Super serious about those grab bars assists for showers, or at least designated mounting areas! I’m 65 and still loving camping, except navigating those showers!!
Wow. They knocked these out of the park. The storage on the side of the entertainment center and next the couch are fantastic. The indoor/outdoor trash can access is super smart. I’m a big fan of these. Super innovative and well thought out. Like others have said, the only thing really missing is a convection microwave. Other than that, it’s absolutely phenomenal.
I would really like something like this, but without the slide. I feel that most people who are relatively new to using a camper would like to get into a camper without the stress of added worries of a slide. I personally like the idea of having a little bit bigger camper that is easy to walk in and around without any issues during the set up or tear down process. I really think that the more people who can start out with something that is easy to use the more people will get into the purchase and then might want to get something bigger.
Nice, soo cool. There is plenty of storage, get rid of the cabinet under the TV, continue the counter to the corner closet. Make the outside door wider so you can have a cooler/deep freeze that slides in/out. option to delete the stand-up fridge. Ditch the step up shower. shower sump/macerater pumps can give you a level or step down shower. remove side storage where fridge is and shrink slide side storage to have a bigger bath. Option to delete stove, and other propane stuff, move to all electric. move the rear accessory hitch inboard (better departure angle, let likely to break off) Hub motors in wheels, auto regen braking, 15kw of battery, DC fast charge, hi voltage DC air conditioning/heat pump, and solar powered hot water heat pump :)
We love the small size with great features. We like the no oven which adds more storage. Love the walk around bed. Love that is is off grid ready but still feels like home versus a bed or tent on wheels.
I love that this is wood less construction! I actually like the bracket table and I love the change they made to the shade/blinds. The quality is so easy to see.
Love options available! I wish the CPAP cubby was slightly lower to prevent moisture in the hose when humid getting into the mask. Otherwise cool possible options.
So are you saying that the machine needs to be lower than the person wearing the mask? So that condensation drains back to machine not into person's mouth? (I don't use one just trying to understand the logistics.)
I always think they need more solar... if the roof doesn't have solar panels on slides that deploy when parked it's not enough :D But really, I think they look great. Not big enough for full timing, and I always want a King bed. How about they make it a toy hauler with twins up front and a king that drops down in the back? :D
Uncle Josh, your videos are a welcomed relief to a society that has gone insane. I watch every one regardless of style and floorpan. Keep `em coming Josh!!!!
So close. So very close. How about this: remove the hidden wardrobe, mount the TV on the ceiling on a swing-down bracket. Put the fridge in the wardrobe space. Extend the bathroom wall into the old refrigerator space, combine the pantries together in the remaining space where the broom closet is. The bathroom layout should then be: shower extended into sink space. Sink moved to where toilet is. Toilet angled against back wall for more room. Personally, if it was mine, I would remove the cubby storage behind the sofa, swap the sofa for two recliners and have marine style drop-down tables for dining.
That 201FBQ has to be one the best designed campers I've ever seen. This thing is perfect as a couples camper. Ember keeps moving closer and closer to my perfect camper. I need one under 30 feet with the bedroom and entertainment center of the 201FBQ and the flex, bunk space of the 191MSL (I didn't even know I needed the flex space until I saw that video). I'd also like to praise Ember for offering options to the individual models instead of offering multiple models. I have to assume that this keeps prices down as they don't have to buy multiple versions of everything. The spaces are just made to slot in whatever option the customer orders like the booth dinette vs. the sofa.
With all seriousness... I think you've reviewed them all! How about a couples camper, real king, 50"+ tv, all aluminum, 2" side walls, azdel, full time capability
In the second unit of this video, those invertor/solar control units are in a position to be smashed by anything you carry in that compartment. Relocate those to the inside of the unit out of harms way.
I see a lot that I like. A ducted A/C would be nice to quiet things down some. As others have mentioned a convection microwave in the kitchen. The storage area next to the refer would make a good coat closet so adding a clothes rod across the top would be great.
I love this model! I prefer square sinks and no plastic 😊
TY Beckey
Two things: 1. Please run the wiring to put all solar control units inside the trailer. Over time, they will get beat up in the cargo area. 2. Put a 110 outlet behind the TV. It isn’t a smart TV, and since many people watch TV online, an Apple TV or the like needs to be employed, thus the need for the outlet. Also, should an owner want to upgrade TVs later, the outlet allows for a change to something off the shelf. Thanks!
I wonder if 12v smart TVs are hard to get in the volume they need to maintain production
Or just plug in a firestick to the provided tv and poof smart tv
@@lvl3592 would still need an outlet to power the fire stick.
Hi Josh! I love your enthusiasm and humor! I am a 58 year old woman living in a Forest River Salem Cruise Lite 196BH. I bought it new in 2016 after my husband passed away. In 2021 I became disabled and had to sell my home. My kids are grown and on their own now so I do not need the bunk beds. I have discovered that this camper is to small for permanently living in, even for one person. I love the Ember Overland 201FBQ!!! I wish I could afford one of those! Since you wanted our feedback, here we go…
A oven is definitely needed. To plug in a toaster oven or Chefman oven/air fryer will take up ALL the counter space. Oven please….😌
All cabinets should have doors! It is hard enough to keep your belongings from flying around but even harder when there is no doors to help contain everything. 😌 Cabinet doors please.
One last thing. My camper did not have hydraulic lifts on the bed. I installed them myself. It is very important to have easy and safe access to storage under the bed. Maybe some sliding drawers inside the bed storage so you can pull things forward easier…. Sort of like in cabinets for pots and pans etc….
I want to buy a Travel Trailer from you. Please let me know how to do this?
Thank you 🙏🏻
@@morningsunrise4279 drop our team a note and let them go to work for you! That’s all
Non slide version of this would be awesome 🤩
I wondered if people wouldn't feel that way! No slides would be so straight forward and easy! Also open up a lot of CCC
@@JoshtheRVNerd no slides, opening for the office like the MSL, options for MOAR solar panels (double?) 😍, slam latches 🤩🤩. Oooo buddy! 🥳
I have to second this. I'm looking for a non slide dual axel bunk house for myself and three kids with some off road capabilities.
@@tardisrider25 lot of requests for this..
I love the versatility of the MSL cargo/bunk/office/garage space. We would use that space for all 4 options at various times.
Love the walk around bed. A no slide option would be nice as well.
Fricking LOVE the bed nooks with electricals!
Same!
I agree that the bathroom sink should not be plastic. I also suggest that the put in a folding or removable shelf half way or 2/3s up in the large in/out storage area would make it more usable if not using it for an outdoor fridge.
I’d like a king bed. Along with bunk beds for our boys. Thanks much!!
I concur that a convection micro would be excellent. With that large in/out storage compartment, that outside door needs a better locking system beside those cheap twisty locks.
With RV convection microwaves that are mounted high, the heat through the vents gets the ceiling hot...very hot.
This is glorious! Best one yet! Love the storage! Love the no oven and no outside kitchen! Love the bed! Love the screens and shades! Wowee wow wow!
Agreed 👍 This one is perfect!
I agree with all.
Love this direction!! We’ve got our eyes on this one!! Love the storage! Can the micro be a convection-micro?
Yes, definitely switch it over to a convection oven!
I went there today and asked the same question - apparently they don’t have access to a convection microwave that fits.
@@StressLessCamping that is strange. I have one in my Rpod (a smaller camper than this Ember), and can say that it’s not that large a micro/conv item. And I don’t understand why they wouldn’t have access to them, owners can even get replacements at places like Camping World….
I thought convection WAS available but StressLess indicates otherwise and they’re a reliable source.. crap!
@@JoshtheRVNerd You know , especially on the 201FBQ, there is such good kitchen storage that it wouldn't hurt to delete most of that storage to either side of the microwave and put in a big 30 inch residential style convection microwave.
Great looking rig! This has seriously gained my attention! I'd much rather see them delete the black tank, upgrade the toilet to a waterless flush like a Cinderella incinerator or Laveo dry flush and add a 30gal freshwater tank. It would also be great to be able to add on to their max solar. Like putting 1200w up top and 800ah worth up lithium under the bed. Make it a true off-road/off-grid rig. Other than that, it's perfect. Great video as always Josh!
I wonder if dry flush toilet setups may change how things are handled with RVIA coding... sometimes that's an issue
Dang! Love it. If they could do this to the MSL… OMG. Thank you for these factory tours, Josh.
I could easily see them also just making a 221MSL bunkhouse/thing
@@JoshtheRVNerd that would likely create a new owner! Love love love the travel mode segments.
Also @josh, what do you think about the notion of swapping the placement of the stove further away from the sink? So prep and washing food/dishes won’t splash onto stove or whatever you are cooking?
@@weztankersley2293 I think it’s very personal and subjective. I’ve heard customers can both positive and negative feedback about both positioning
I'm thrilled that they are making larger RVs. Now Ember, please do the larger length for the MSL!
I figured that would be requested. Heck.. I think I would like to see it
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Please make the bunks more (vertically) spaced out!!!! Not like sleeping in a coffin.
I've owned 5 bunk houses and they all are the same. EMBER seems different than the rest. Please make them bigger!
They’re kind of limited by the height of the camper there unfortunately
And an 8ft ceiling means a crazy tall exterior people won’t like
May I ask what the proper clearance is Sam??
@@JoshtheRVNerd Josh, I do understand the limitations:) but still there is more space. It would come at the cost of losing the outside kitchen or under bed storage (I understand that) However Ember seems like they are willing to do things differently. They took the first step already by making that "flex" room option. Better spacing on bunks would make them more usable for big kids/small adults.
Josh, your the Man!!! I am part of your original 5k nerd heard and have met you in person!!!
Love love the bunk model. That thing is just about perfect! Would love to see it with the dinette.
Great video! A curtain track option would be a must to separate the queen bed area from the rest of the camper, especially the bunk option one! I would also love to see a king bed option! I also love the bigger shower on the 221MDB!! Ember we’re grateful your listening to your customers and building bigger units for families!
This one is great! Walk around queen is a must for us. The outlets are a great and the hidden wardrobe is a great selling point.
Don’t mind not having no oven. At. All.
I like this trailer would like to see a dinette option, a stove/oven option
Rectangle sink. I appreciate the no speaker holes on the outside. Your factory tours are are always informative.
Ty Raymond!!
Would love this with a king bed
I would kind of like a fireplace, but that’s because I don’t understand the water heater/furnace stuff.
That’s the only thing I can kind of gripe about. It’s an awesome Camper!!
I love my fireplace in my 2205s.
I could see mounting a small vertical "fireplace" space heater in place of that door below the TV that could swing open/closed. I'd be all for it
A built-in electric heater (safer than portables getting knocked around) would be great. And for the more practical of us, do we really need a fake fire? So a small built-in heater would take hardly any space yet still push out 1500 watts. Wanna watch a fire, go outside, especially for a smaller model like this.
@8:54 instead of a door, how about a small 4 mounting point flexible cargo net, one for each shelf that is around 75% of the height between each shelf? The only thing I can't figure out because I'm not in front of it in person would be the mounting points for the nets. I don't think the outside face is an option as, depending on the mounting option, that would likely create a snag point. Maybe 2 on the shelf and the other 2 on the inside face or the the middle face of the cabinet or all 4 on the inside face or the the middle face of the cabinet. That way though, if you aren't using all the shelves, you only have to put the nets up on the ones you are actively using and Ember won't have to fight to add a more tradition door in an already confined space.
I think that netting is a solid idea there. Probably about the best it could be ty
@@JoshtheRVNerd happy to help!
Ember continues to impress. It’s nice to see them respond to comments, and quickly. I love the bunk house model in particular. That would suit me and my family quite nicely. It goes without saying (well maybe not, as I’m saying it 😁) their quality and design are top notch.
They definitely need something to protect items from the storage next to the fridge from falling out. Maybe clip up netting or a small wooden bar or dowl blockingbut you can still access the shelf.
This is a great floor plan, but… I do miss the added seating flexibility that the shorter version with the Murphy bed offers. A few other thoughts:
- The added kitchen space is very desirable
- TV location is much better here than the shorter version
- Will they offer this with the new modular layout (removable bunks with swing up door/window
- SO nice to see an OEM listen to their customers and you
- LOVE those flip-up shelves in the cabinets/closets
- Agree - don’t use a plastic sink in the bathroom. Not for this price point!
Yeah id want the same fold down Murphy sofa on this one too.
agreed, the cheap sink was probably just used due to what was in stock(aka "free")
@@shannonstewart4792 I hope they offer both versions without the slide. I like the residential queen. These mattresses always suck. First job is replacing it and that would be difficult with the two piece Murphy bed.
I would like a theater seat dinette rather than a jack knife sofa, similar to Rockwood. I also would like a combi convection oven/ microwave.
Love this! The prior models had kitchens that were a deal-breaker for me. This is awesome!
201FBQ - this is as close to the “perfect” couples tv I have seen. This encapsulates a lot of features that I have seen in various other models that I wish were wrapped up all in one. Not going to get into too much detail, but I love the fact that the entry door is on the far side of the trailer. I hate doors next to the bed. Great video and totally appreciate your efforts in reviewing RV’s. When I’m ready for the next one, I will travel out to you and give you the sale. Anyway, the current build you reviewed my only wishlist item would be that there were an option to eliminate the behind the couch storage (for me there is plenty already) and give us a reclining chairs option. It could totally be done even with the table in place. Lastly the small storage area between door and fridge, I like what they’ve done with the shelves, however I would like some sort of door or accordion type pull down to keep whatever was on the shelves or stored in there, like fishing rods, in place. Just my 2 cents, but this model, with all of the features is so close to my “perfect” camper. One thing I forgot, never need a microwave. Hopefully that is an option and storage cabinets would be stard. Thanks Josh, as always, you rock!
Forgive the darned spell checks I missed before posting.
LOL on the spellchecks -- I cannot tell you how much I feel you on that one. I have the ability to type fast and accurately.. until THE VERY LAST WORD OF A POST. I will screw it up, hit "send," then have to edit/fix it like every other time I type something out. It's... sigh.. it's annoying
[Edit] true to form.. mistyped annoying and had to fix it
This is a great camper, they did an awesome job. Love that huge storage area that is disguised as a cupboard!
You know what else would be cool under a Murphy bed .. some sort of dinette or desk situation. There is a Canadian B+ company that has one. That way you could have a sit down eating, extra seating or project area when you need it.
Murphy desks are something that will likely be coming to the industry more commonly soon
Murphy desks are something that will likely be coming to the industry more commonly soon
Well done! I like everything about it but with recliners as opposed to the dinofa. As for no oven, you can always get a Coleman camp oven to set on the burner of the stove. Again, well done!
Definitely agree about the recliners in place of dinofa.
There are so many things to love about this RV, especially the dual-axle independent suspension, the lack of cheap plywood in the structure, and the very attractive interior decor. But since you asked for feedback, here goes . . . The corner floor-to-ceiling wall cabinet in the bedroom doesn't seem very usable. What can you really store in that small triangle of space? It just seems an odd shape to accommodate clothing (I see needing to fold all my T-shirts and underwear into small triangles). Also, I'm not a fan of that outdoor kitchen pass-through. It seems like a neat idea, but I don't actually see using it as intended. I think that space would be better served with a large set of drawers or pull-out shelves. Finally, I've used small round kitchen sinks before and they really aren't practical. Washing moderately sized pots and pans always poses a challenge. Oh yeah, the plastic bathroom sink is a total bust.
The 201FBQ is really close to my dream camper! As a big guy, I agree that the toilet and shower are a bit small. The bathroom on the 221MDB looks much better, but I don't need/want the bunks. I love the "camp kitchen" replacement area. The only other "nice to have" feature I would want is some sort of privacy curtain for the bed area.
I assume these would be 30A service, and a 13,500 non-ducted AC unit? Way to go Ember!
Ohh man.... Josh did a video with the "bunk" model last week that was wide open and could be used for so many things... I'll see if I can find it for you...
th-cam.com/video/sPARX6nnoJA/w-d-xo.html ... Its not a double axel, but I have a feeling thats coming!!!
30amp yes
Love it. Needs generator prep as well.
1. Two burner stove with more storage space and no oven - WIN - having just a bit more counter space makes up for it.
2. Love the sturdy independent suspension
3. Would like to see a theater seat option (again like Rockwood) where the center arm folds up and permits curled up napping. Would like the mini tables and have them fit into the side cup holders.
4. Want to see the bunk options with the exterior door. If that would require and east/west bed, that's fine. Don't compromise with designing for a king bed. Would be interested in the twin beds concept. Especially if you could invent a way to insert a portable desk on one side.
5. And spend $10 more (stop doing what everyone else does) and put in a bathroom faucet where you can actually get your hands under it.
6. And please don't follow the crowd by adding goobs of stupid swooshes and stickers. Keep it clean.
7. And why not a built in exterior ladder? Who wants to store/find/unfold and setup a rickety portable ladder. That is the worst part of this trailer so far. You mention and optional telescoping ladder? Hope that-s permanently attached?
8. I watch a number of RV user FB pages. It's amazing how many battery problems folks are having. When do you switch from AC to DC, how do you it, did I kill my battery, etc, etc. In the future it would be great to design something that is more automated or sensing so all of these electrical issues are lessened and you don't need to be an EE to figure it out.
9. Battery shutoff switch in poor location; to easy to hit and break off.
10. Repeat complaint - Don't like the trapezoid window covers.
221mdb - YAY - Add theater seats! Arrgh - bendy bed NG
191msl - Come on, show us! Bendy beds NG - deal breaker
And for the ultimate bad idea - Use a cheap TV projector instead of a TV. I see plenty less than $150 and many less than $100. Don't know how good they are. Put the projector under the slide roof and have a pull down screen over the sink area. Because that current location is pretty bad even though you tried your best.
Great feedback!
I’d like to see the LED projector video idea. But remember those things don’t work except in the dark, and quality of the cheap ones can’t be good.
So there’s a lot to unpack here but there are actually a large number of people who do not want a built on exterior ladder so they can have more freedom to use the rear cargo receiver. More common in a specialty class like this vs a traditional camper
All great stuff here though. Ty for the time it took to write this
Love that Ember listens to the customer!
Love the 221MDB....only suggestions would be an accordion door ( something better than a curtain), extra window on the front curb side, and maybe an option for an regular/convection oven. Great camper though 👌.
Something could be nice vs fully open for sure
@@JoshtheRVNerd Would love to see something like the bathroom door on the Lance 2185, but I have no idea how to execute that on this floorplan😃
I wish they would make the larger non-bunkhouse model with a Murphy bed to enhance floorspace.
I would love for there to be a slider door separation for the bedroom area.
Convection microwave would be nice
TV / fireplace for heat with just electric.
Love the tv storage/closet area!! The camp kitchen option area.
It would be great if that small little pantry next to the fridge would be able to be rolled out as a unit
Roll out is a great idea!
Can you add w/D hook ups where the blank / open area is?? Please.
Please????
Not from the factory. Manufacturers really can’t do request based modifications like that.
Is there an option for a super max solar package with 5 panels at 190 watts each? Looks like there is room for 2 more panels on the roof.
That was my thought too. My first move would be to figure out how to get 1.2K of solar up there and at least 600AH of batteries.!
Not currently. The hardware they have in their supply chain could not handle that extra juice. The 3x 190w is currently their available max
I Love the 4 wheel approach - please advice when you will have inventory.
One product enhancement suggestion: PLEASE OFFER THESE MODELS WITH A Murphy Bed or a Sleeper Couch that is 66” wide or introduce a Twin Bed Version that could then convert to a king size with a center fill in Section. These two bed alternatives are ideal for smaller recreational vehicles and a good Murphy bed is my first choice. An other enhancement could be a slight modification the the bath door ( it would allow easier access to to the flex space of the 191MSL and would even allow for the use of an additional Euro Style Char or the set-up of an “office” with better access.
Also please provide sufficient wiring size for a 3000W inverter
Last but not least these models that you are “pre-viewing” appear to be shown on the Ember layouts, but it is not clear of they are the New 4Wheel model or the 2Wheel version. Ember might want to consider better presentation and clarity on their website if they are.
Thanks
Their max solar package will have all that inverter and more
Ty for all the input btw
Awesome to see the dual axle trailers from Ember!
Please build the 190MDB floor plan on the 22 foot chassis with a fixed East / West Queen and the option to delete the outdoor kitchen.
We would prefer the additional storage under the beds and without the front Murphy bed the fixed upper cabinets over the Queen would be possible 🇨🇦
This would be perfect for us too.
Lot of requests for this wow
@@JoshtheRVNerd I agree with your comments in the video too that a version without the slide would be a cleaner look and with the floor plan flipped with the couch on the curb side the kitchen could be significantly bigger with the 3 extra feet of frame!
Like it a lot agree on the convention oven. I am concerned about cargo weight. 55 gallons of water is 458 lbs. take away the 1320 and you are down to 861 lbs, basic gear is atleast 200lbs. now you are less then 700lbs of cargo. Do they warranty you can travel with fresh water?
I do not know exactly what their fresh tank policy is
Very very nice. I love when manufacturers listen to their customers. I wish them much success in the future. Something I'm wondering is if there are plans for even bigger trailers in the future or do want to see how it goes with what they have?
Yeah it’s very possible
I think it’s also possible you will see them do something less “EXTREME” and a little more market traditional
This one is the one I've been looking for. Off-road capability for extended stays. Or pull in to a high end campground and turn heads. Since this is a true off-road unit... possibly another spare tire option.
Possibly a offroad style bumper with swing away tire mounts....just a thought...... let me know when to place a order...
They're actually now live in production and on our facility grounds!
Here's a first-run 201FBQ ► bit.ly/3I5FubT
And their first 221MDB bunk mode JUST landed. Footage for that will be coming in a day or two
So.. just drop our team a note when you're ready! :)
Love this trailer and off road capability. So made for boondocking, would love to see option for 12 volt refrigerator and 12 volt a/c!! Must have for boondocking
It's half way there. The fridge is DC. Like you, I think a 12V AC would be the way to go.
@@johnvowell6348 can someone upgrade to the max solar package AFTER they've purchased the rv? Some people may have to save up more money for the upgrade or want to see how it is without max solar first.
@@shannonstewart4792 In many cases you are better off adding your solar system aftermarket. Most factory installed systems aren't done that well. They particularly like to skimp on the quality if the wiring, which may be the most important element of a well designed solar system. If you don't want to do the installation yourself, there are many talented solar system installers throughout the US. I have worked with excellent installers across my stomping grounds in AZ, OR and ID. If I get an Ember, I'll order it with the minimum solar package and put a real system in. It can be more expensive because you can build a system using best in class components, but worth it if you fulltime in the trailer (and, like me, hate generators!).
My husband & I absolutely love this new couples Ember! It's amazingly perfect for us. I love to give input regarding different motorhomes & travel trailers & I often do. My husband John & I purchased our Safari Trek at your family business, a few years ago, in Coldwater. Although, we love our Trek, we are getting older & are both retired & seek another mode of full timers, with all of the newer technologies, including the great off roading capabilities that this model offers. I appreciate the inputs regarding the shades, on the best windows ever. This is the best floorplan in a towable we've seen. We have around 150 Facebook pages, regarding different makes, models, motorhomes & travel trailers. My husband is a semi retired RV Inspector & we have traveled all over the country doing inspections for people. We love RVs & are constantly looking for something that fits us perfectly. I think that in this this one, we have met our match.❤️😊
Wow! So glad to see you here with us still :)
I’d rather have a free floating table instead of that bracketed table. It would be sturdier, and could be used outside.
I'm thinking the table bracket off the couch could go on the wall outside to use table outside or just put a pedestal on it.
@@raymondclark1785 OH great thinking!
In the 221MDB I think even better location for the entertainment and more storage could be achieved. Move the microwave over slightly so it is right next to the fridge and put the tv next to the microwave over the kitchen. Then use the same tv mount as in the 201FBQ allowing for storage behind the tv. This would allow for direct viewing from the slide and the swing arm allows for direct viewing from the Murphy sofa. The area where the tv is currently located would then be freed up for a full floor to ceiling pantry that could be hanging or shelf storage…
Really like those 2 burner stoves, they’re great at freeing up counter space. Wish my GeoPro was setup that way.
I love the storage at the head of the queen beds. My current camper has an open space/shelf/counter below the hanging storage and then a drawer below. I can't tell you how many times I have hit my head in the middle of the night when I roll over! I have resorted to stuffing a pillow in that area and then still hit my head when the pillow falls out. I must admit I am not a real "happy camper" when I get my head wacked when I am still asleep.
I also love the the light and plugs at the head of the bed. I end up fishing a power cord to a hidden outlet and then knock it out of the outlet when we put the murphy bed up.
Good job Ember. We are looking to purchase our retirement trailer in a couple of years, and Ember is definitely on my radar!
In a round about way, I've come back through the recent Ember videos. I would love to see the dual axle bunkhouse with the Ember Track like the single axle, making the bunk space convertible. That would also necessitate adding a cargo door in the back. I don't know if that is possible, but that would definitely add significantly to the value of the dual axle bunkhouse.
TY - I've heard this from a handful of people and agree it'd be pretty sweet!
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This is absolute perfection……to me. I’m a solo camper and this is amazing. I don’t care about the oven, I don’t use mine. I currently have a 2020 Dutchmen Kodiak 201qb and without a doubt, this will be my next camper. I don’t have a slide in mine and this Ember will be perfect. I love the way the TV opens out to the bed area. The only thing I will change, if possible, is to switch out the microwave to a convection/microwave. That’s it, everything else is perfect for my needs. Well done Ember!! I look forward to getting mine when available for purchase. This is what I’ve been looking for.
I know they are trying to source convection options but have had difficulty finding the right supplier
@@JoshtheRVNerd If that was the only “problem” when the time comes, I’d be more than willing to source it myself. Everything else is perfect. I love the Ember product.
Yay!!! Woohoo! Tandem axle/ 4 wheel independent suspension! 🎉👏👏👏 Loving all that storage! , @JoshtheRVNerd , you mentioned possible twin beds - how about an option for 2 twins/convertible to king? Rockwood Mini Lite has a model with that option. Ember Crew, you guys are knocking it out of the park with these newest models! Awesome job, guys! We appreciate Josh giving us a great sneak peek tour!
Yeah “how” the twin beds are done will be interesting to see
A convertible king is cool but loses storage while twin-only still allows for center storage..
Wow! This is pretty much what I want!!! I’m gonna continue doing my homework
I love that idea with the 22. Perhaps with a curtain track to separate the sleeping areas for families. Though in that larger model perhaps an oven as well. Can’t wait to see pricing on that one. Glad to see this sneak peek.
Uncle Josh!!!!! Wow this one is freaking AWESOME!!!! LOVE LOVE ❤️ 😍
Any possibility of a curtain divider for the bedroom?
Super reasonable. Passing this along. Ty
Good job on listening Ember
They're really dialed in right now!
I love the 201FBQ layout, well thoughtout appointments and storage. I like the full size queen bed, bath could be just a touch larger. Toilet access appears to be limited for those of us with the need for a bit more room. I am not wild about the storage behind the sofa, looks difficult to reach things. How about putting an exterior access door for that area!!! With the max solar package and a generator this would be the perfect off grid unit. Trailing link road gear would be excellent for possible rough ground travel. I would also consider another max air fan in the living area for thosse days when you need some air movement but don't need to run the AC.
Like the looks of these trailers a LOT!! Agree with some of the earlier comments though. Would love to see a 221MSL with the Ember track system, a square sink, a convection micro combo, and the battery / inverter electronics inside the cabin, possibly near the main control panels. I get that wiring may not allow that, but it seems they could easily go up the interior wall near the door maybe? I have two teenagers and when we rented a NorthTrail similar to the Rockwood UL 2509S, they hated climbing into those tight bunks. I love the MSL type bunks that give the kids some standing room and ability to easily get into their sleeping area. Plus with the Ember track accessories, you can hang expandable cargo nets, or hang bags for their stuff on the bathroom side wall. Don't understand why more manufacturers are not doing this! Kids grow up to adult size eventually and need a little space of their own! Grand Design has a new Transcend model, the 235BH that puts the bunks in the slide where the kids can easily get in and still be part of the conversation if they want. Love the concept, just wish it was in a trailer without wood construction and Azdel sides. Your videos have been very helpful in the search for the perfect RV. Just still doesn't exist yet! Ember looks like they are getting very close though!
8:00 two burner is a win!
Personally I'm a fan as well
The 201FBQ is a beautiful RV. For me, I would recommend eliminating the pantry by the door since they added a large pantry between the bathroom wall and the sofa. That way they could have the larger bathroom and shower like in the 221MDB. Would also like to see larger overhead cabinets above the bed and an open cabinet in the bathroom to store towels above the toilet. And since there’s no oven, a convection microwave option.
Love everything about it!. A twin bed would be a cool option. Don't know if I would go with it, because they did such a good job with the queen. I love the twin mini Winnie but this one beats it...
Love what you are doing here with the tandem!!!
3 design Ideas my wife and I really appreciate in our 18' Zeppelin.
* Ditch the slide and make the queen a murphy bed with couch combo and table.
*Need an oven because I'm a chef.
*Wife says that without a bathtub it's a "deal breaker"
Really like the 201FBQ! I'd want a convection/micro, windows on the sides of the slide (or better yet if they are building a no-slide option, same build length of this layout!), we have the alumi-tread manual stairs on our current trailer and I vastly prefer those over the solid-step. The solid-step was on a trailer we rented before purchasing, and it became a deal-breaker for us as you couldn't access the trailer at some rest stops. I know that's an unpopular opinion with some, but we also find there is less dirt in the trailer when you don't have to flip the stairs up into it. I see some asking for theater seats, and my only opinion there is to please leave off the heat/massage/ugly-accent-lights if they add this. Our's have only been turned on (repeatedly) by accident and are getting unplugged as soon as we can figure out how to get to the plug - what a waste!
Add king, enlarge top storage by dropping down, add trundle drawers, decrease width of nightstands. Love the natural light and shade mods!
Really like what Ember is doing. With this longer model, the idea I mentioned on the 191MSL video, I think would be easier to pull off. That's do to a twin bed floorpan like what's in the Airstream Flying Cloud 25RB Twin model, but with the E-track based beds in the back. With sets of E-track bunks on both sides and maybe a small door in the middle of the back wall like in the bunk house models, it would function as a sort of non-motorized toy hauler, be able to sleep a whole family and on a rainy day, the back area could be re-configured to a play area or a place to setup folding chairs. Certainly, with the back fully open, all the mechanicals would need to be in the front, so I don't know what that would for hitch weight, but if the front had a big u-dinette like the airstream I think there would be room for it, and with all the flexibility for storage in the back, not having front passthrough storage I think would be understandable.
I think that MSL concept is going to permeate more of their work for sure
Comment #301. The outside small door. Can also make loading and unloading so much easier. Also a small box could be added for a small generator. A little more tongue weight yes. But the height and a good lockable box. Will make it harder to steal.
Queen bed is fine, no need for a king. Love the hidden closet behind the tv and how the shelves flip up. Recliners an option? Great looking RV!
Would LOVE recliners (with cupholders) for those of us who only need to sleep two people.
True recliners or theater aren’t possible with that slide system but they may be able to do a built in kickout inclined for a foot rest
I do think if my wife and I would buy this for a couples camper, she would want a small oven. I would like it too as I would benefit from her baking!
Biggest knock is the shower. Would love to see the rectangle and move the sink out entirely if necessary. Kitchen sink is right outside so I'd think you could use that and maybe increase pantry/towel storage as well. That shower in the second one is amazing tho.
Wow. Love this. I’ve been holding out for the MSL (the bunks on tracks idea is simply amazing) but wishing it had dual axles and a walk around bed. Now I’m hoping they will do this version with the MSL bunks, that would be perfect!!
I'll be shocked if they don't do a 221MSL or something like that
Embers look really solid and the solar options are awesome! The brand just really stands out to me. Love the walk around standard queen! It makes a difference when your husband is 6'3"! Josh- as always your knowledge depth is impeccable! and amazing!
Ty so much Kris!!
Love the improvements! Yes to king bed. Yes to microwave convection oven. Can you fit a flip up table somewhere for more prep space? Can you add hangar hooks in cabinet beside fridge in case it is use for coats?
Can I win one of these, please?
Thank you, Josh.
If you do find out how to win one, then let me know please!!
Went to look at the Ember a few weeks ago. Didn’t purchase because the interior walls seems so weak. Thought I was going to send my hand through the wall trying to plug something in. The draws were wobbly and weak as well. Impressed with everything else. If it wasn’t for that, I would have probably purchased one.
I would like to see a bunk model with the walk around queen bed and no slide. And, beef up the interior.
Very interesting as to their development. Curious to see if they come out with a larger using geared toward a full time life. Say a 30 footer. That would peak my interest.
With capacity for 8-10 batteries
That would be dope. But pricey.
I just started the research for a small off-road capable RV for my retirement and this perfect. Ticks off everything I was hoping to find, the only thing I would like to see is a better sealed underbelly pan. I’d be willing to pay extra for an aluminum sheet underbelly. Thanks for this video. I’m currently remodeling my DS3612 Raptor into a tiny home and I just picked up an old aluminum sign that I’m going to use to create a removable panel in the underbelly so that I can access The tank valves easily. That would be a nice addition to this model so that the inevitable repair or replacement of a valve is easy.
On the 201FBQ I would want a way to get it under 10’ tall to fit in my garage for the long cold winters. Other than that, an excellent floor plan!
Not sure that’s really possible on these. Hard to get a full size trailer under that size
Regarding Solar Panel Mounting - Carry those front 'shark fin' rails back along both sides so you can mount lots of solar panels in a rack system instead of poking holes in the roof. Look at the Imperial Outdoors rail/rack system on the X195 and X145. More panels and bigger batteries!
Very promising unit, and overall I’m interested. On the one hand I love the full privacy bathroom door with no gap at the top, on the other hand I question how the AC cool air will get through. I also which that RV mfgrs would add some assist type grab bars for step up shower enclosures. This floor plan is almost perfect for me, and I would gladly switch from my Rpod. Josh, could you fit laid out in any direction on that sofa?
I couldn’t totally fit on the sofa with my long legs but I could get thru a night or weekend crashing at a friend’s place if that makes sense
@@JoshtheRVNerd thank you for your reply. My partner is 6’4 (we sometimes sleep apart), so my Rpod replacement search goes on…, though I’m looking forward to seeing how that bunk house unit finishes up. Super serious about those grab bars assists for showers, or at least designated mounting areas! I’m 65 and still loving camping, except navigating those showers!!
Thanks for all your great videos Josh. If they make a MSL version like this, you'll be my first call.
...or actually, just QSL
On an RV as expensive as this is going to be I'd like a 3 burner stove with small oven, at least as an option.
Wow. They knocked these out of the park. The storage on the side of the entertainment center and next the couch are fantastic. The indoor/outdoor trash can access is super smart. I’m a big fan of these. Super innovative and well thought out. Like others have said, the only thing really missing is a convection microwave. Other than that, it’s absolutely phenomenal.
I asked ember about the microwave.. they’re working on finding a vendor to supply them
I would really like something like this, but without the slide. I feel that most people who are relatively new to using a camper would like to get into a camper without the stress of added worries of a slide. I personally like the idea of having a little bit bigger camper that is easy to walk in and around without any issues during the set up or tear down process. I really think that the more people who can start out with something that is easy to use the more people will get into the purchase and then might want to get something bigger.
Agree!!! I've done hours upon hours of research before I buy my first RV. I've been around them, all my life but never owned my own. So much to learn!
Nice, soo cool. There is plenty of storage, get rid of the cabinet under the TV, continue the counter to the corner closet. Make the outside door wider so you can have a cooler/deep freeze that slides in/out. option to delete the stand-up fridge. Ditch the step up shower. shower sump/macerater pumps can give you a level or step down shower. remove side storage where fridge is and shrink slide side storage to have a bigger bath. Option to delete stove, and other propane stuff, move to all electric. move the rear accessory hitch inboard (better departure angle, let likely to break off) Hub motors in wheels, auto regen braking, 15kw of battery, DC fast charge, hi voltage DC air conditioning/heat pump, and solar powered hot water heat pump :)
Nice rv! How about a pull curtain across bedroom area. Love the day night shades.
Totally reasonable request!!
We love the small size with great features. We like the no oven which adds more storage. Love the walk around bed. Love that is is off grid ready but still feels like home versus a bed or tent on wheels.
I think embers should have a option for a oven.
I love that this is wood less construction! I actually like the bracket table and I love the change they made to the shade/blinds. The quality is so easy to see.
Love options available! I wish the CPAP cubby was slightly lower to prevent moisture in the hose when humid getting into the mask. Otherwise cool possible options.
So are you saying that the machine needs to be lower than the person wearing the mask? So that condensation drains back to machine not into person's mouth?
(I don't use one just trying to understand the logistics.)
@@dianedenham5259 Condensing water will pool at the lowest point in the hose. He could turn off the humidifier and have no problem though.
7:32.
The cooktop and the top drawer make a face!
I know ahhahaa
I always think they need more solar... if the roof doesn't have solar panels on slides that deploy when parked it's not enough :D
But really, I think they look great. Not big enough for full timing, and I always want a King bed.
How about they make it a toy hauler with twins up front and a king that drops down in the back? :D
Lot of ramp-type requests
Ty Caleb
Uncle Josh, your videos are a welcomed relief to a society that has gone insane. I watch every one regardless of style and floorpan. Keep `em coming Josh!!!!
So my crazy is.. normal? Lol
So close. So very close. How about this: remove the hidden wardrobe, mount the TV on the ceiling on a swing-down bracket. Put the fridge in the wardrobe space. Extend the bathroom wall into the old refrigerator space, combine the pantries together in the remaining space where the broom closet is. The bathroom layout should then be: shower extended into sink space. Sink moved to where toilet is. Toilet angled against back wall for more room. Personally, if it was mine, I would remove the cubby storage behind the sofa, swap the sofa for two recliners and have marine style drop-down tables for dining.
I've seen some things similar to that. Either way I like the layout
@@JoshtheRVNerd I agree. I love the width of this trailer. Thanks for responding.
My Black Labrador Chloe loves this model. She said she would be very comfortable and happy.
Dogs know best!
Please! If you’re going to withhold the oven, offer the newer microwaves that are convection ovens and air fryers!
It’s a fair point. Ty Liz
That 201FBQ has to be one the best designed campers I've ever seen. This thing is perfect as a couples camper. Ember keeps moving closer and closer to my perfect camper. I need one under 30 feet with the bedroom and entertainment center of the 201FBQ and the flex, bunk space of the 191MSL (I didn't even know I needed the flex space until I saw that video).
I'd also like to praise Ember for offering options to the individual models instead of offering multiple models. I have to assume that this keeps prices down as they don't have to buy multiple versions of everything. The spaces are just made to slot in whatever option the customer orders like the booth dinette vs. the sofa.
If only you could mix and match them!
Thank you Ember, now about that bathroom sink.
What would you change??
@@JoshtheRVNerd // plastic 🤨
With all seriousness... I think you've reviewed them all! How about a couples camper, real king, 50"+ tv, all aluminum, 2" side walls, azdel, full time capability
Actually not thinking of something with those specific features all in one right now
In the second unit of this video, those invertor/solar control units are in a position to be smashed by anything you carry in that compartment. Relocate those to the inside of the unit out of harms way.
I see a lot that I like. A ducted A/C would be nice to quiet things down some. As others have mentioned a convection microwave in the kitchen. The storage area next to the refer would make a good coat closet so adding a clothes rod across the top would be great.