PERFECT for me! Single parent of 2 furr babies. Convection/microwave oven and solar package; just in case I missed those options. You are the best! Keep being you and bringing it! Blessings to you!
This is my favorite Ember out of all of them. The storage and counter space is much better on the floor plan. I wonder why they put a plastic sink in the bathroom? Stainless would be better and less…cheap looking. I’m not a fan of the East West bed but they definitely nailed the finishing around the frame when the bed is up. A convection oven would be preferred then you don’t need an oven. I’m looking forward and holding out to seeing the dual axle. Great review!
I agree with the convection microwave-- that would be a great addition because then it would serve two purposes and not require an oven. Of note as well... PLEASE @EMBER people - please figure out how to put this sort of thing not above a 5'2" height. As a nurse, I cringe every time I see a microwave oven that would require me to lift a hot or steaming item from above my eyeline. It is a safety issue in my mind. Think about the nightmare scenario of a person boondocking who gets a bad burn out in the boonies. Not a great situation! Please try to find a better placement for that. Thanks!
Favorite floor plan so far. Huge fan of the added storage, counter space, camp side window and rear bath. Wouldn't mind seeing this floor plan as a 19 vs 17. Eagerly awaiting a dual axle maybe 25 or 26 feet? I keep checking Ember's site and this morning saw a new 191 MSL. Please, please, please Ember go a bit bigger. As usual Josh you rock!
like the 170MRB Floor plan except it doesn't have a dinette or enough counter space for my liking. One more bed would be nice too. Putting this floor plan on the 190 frame would allow an extra 2 feet of length. The additional length would allow putting in an oven and adding countertop and storage next to the sink. We very seldom use an oven in a camper, but Its nice to be able to put dirty dishes on one side of the sink, wash them, and then put them on the other side to dry. The jackknife sofa could be replaced with a dinette. Instead of cabinets above the dinette, a drop down bunk (like the Hi-Lo campers had) would be great. The extra 2 feet length would allow a cabinet and counter space next to the dinette and allow room for the bathroom door to open. Would be great for a families of up to 5.
This is a high end top drawer travel trailer (camper). This is like a back country Airstream Bambi. But one you would find in the wilds of Montana instead of luxury RV parks of the gulf coast or midwest. This thing is stuffed to the eyeballs with all kinds of neat features, and nice high grade features at that. I saw many many really cool gadgets and just plain kool stuff and hardware on this guy. I love it. The Curt suspension, nifty wheel chocks, ladder and interior subtle touches all add to the flat out goodness of this trailer. But you do pay for it. Both in price and weight. And the requirement for a beefier tow rig to pull it. This is a nice trailer! At $48,000 to $55,000, and about 4,200 pounds dry and 5,500 pounds gross weight, it is definitely a premium trailer. Now park it next to the Braxton Creek Bushwhacker Plus 17FD which comes in at around 2,300 pounds dry, 3,300 pounds gross weight and price around $15,000 to $17,000, and you see just how far apart this really nice Ember trailer is from the regular entry level smaller single axle camper/travel trailers. A truly worthy trailer for the discerning buyer looking for something special. This is it. It can be dragged through rugged terrain and just get a little muddy and dust covered with minimal damage but literally would rip the Bushwhacker apart. But I will come home with the Bushwhacker. Because I like cheap affordable trailers and light weight over fancy, loaded heavy and solid as a brick expensive trailers and I won’t pay the price of admission. And that my friend, is high praise for the Ember. It’s too nice and good for my taste.
As someone who want to boondocks in some fairly rocky areas of my home state, this meets my specific needs. I really appreciate the level of detail Josh has been giving on these. He always does a great job but really digging in to what makes these different has been really helpful .
I absolutely love this floor plan! This is our #1 pick of the Ember RV trailers so far! Really like how everything works. The switches by the bed you talked about could go up higher on the side of the cabinet. Love it!
For your comments on the skylight,I take you have to deal with a lot idiots and their comments. 1 Love the closet with the flip down shelve. I always hope manufacturers provide 2-3 removable and height adjustable shelves with each wardrobe where you can hang clothes. 2. Agree with your idea of outside access panel for interior storage in the pass-through. 3. What about a countertop icemaker in the outside kitchen? Whiskey anyone? The griddle can be placed on a picnic table. 4.. I would love a wall TV hook and hookups outside. If the it a smart TV, it can also mirror the phone screen for kids and adults as well.
OK Josh.... This one is the one... Love that bathroom set up and,even though I'm not a huge Murphy bed fan, at least this could be left permanently down... I like the no slide versions of campers. Just feels like less things to tear up on you. Love the quality of these things and the euro windows...
Totally agree on ditching outside speakers. Their sound quality usually sucks (as does the interior ceiling speakers). I do wish, however, they could come with a smart TV, DVD player, sound bar with radio tuner. This rig is going to go places with no TV signal, and if you have a day when the weather sucks you might want to watch Vito make someone an offer they can’t refuse.
I'm really charged up & amp'd up with this Floorplan. It is absolutely electrifying to see this little power packed trailer. It's got a shockingly amount of storage
Love the bathroom & the extra shelf in the closet. LOTS of storage if you need clothes for all seasons in a day or weekend like would be needed around here. I really appreciate the info regarding how the showermiser works.
MODIFICATION: What I'd do is remove the secondary sofa opp the kitchen, add a folding bar style counter top under the window, so that if not in use it can be folded dowm ans flush with the wall. Add folding chairs for seating when in use. Or nornal chairs, the point is the sofa under the bed will be used the most for leisure TV watching or the bed. For guests, the chairs will do. So this stuff give more space for passing through and kitchen prep etc. Optional. Complete solar, remove the propane entirely, replace as many batteries on the front storage gear box, remove the gas cooktop, put an induction cooktop, the outer grill can be modified to use the small portable propane cans for grill use. Add as many solar panels on the roof too for obvious reasons.
I bought an 2022 Ember RV Overland 171FB last June. We have had a number of issues with the trailer, some related to bad appliances (12V Refridgerator and A/C unit) but most were due to poor quality control. The build date on ours was March so it would be nice to know they improved leaking faucets, ungreased front jack, gaps in structure, and kinked plumbing hoses on the Truma system that were common in models last year. All of the issues we encountered were also noted by dealer repair shops we have used all over the southeast US. You might consider an update as we bought ours based on recommendations from your podcast and others amazed by the new product.
I absolutely love this RV and floor plan.. Sometimes I travel alone. For me the jackknife sofa needs to be a small dinette for 2 people. It could possibly convert into a single bed. That would make it absolutely perfect for me.
The dinette is definitely the more traditional route. I think Ember purposely tried to make themselves a bit different and help provide extra space when the table was not deployed Doesn't work for everyone obviously and I'm really just estimating here.
This is my favorite so far but I would delete that sofa. Maybe replace it with 2 Happier Camper cubes and put a pole on that table or a Bistro set that could be used outside
Great job Josh. Absolutely,the best Ember yet. I would like to know how much the max solar package upgrade would cost and what is all included in that package.
Josh we love love this unit! Currently we have a 2022 Keystone Hideout 174RK - we like it but don’t love it, the dealership we bought it from said the sofa for the Murphy bed was damaged from the factory so they pulled a different sofa from another unit which is puffy and when you convert to the bed our feet are higher than our head - oh my I always wake with a headache - another dislike is the dinette slide, I need a step stool to get up in it, would have rather had a sofa in the slide and last but least is the bathroom, it’s so tight that both my husband and myself have cut our arms on the cupboard pull, it could have been designed differently. So we are looking for a different unit, can’t seem to get Keystone to work with us. … but we really love everything about the Ember line
This is 9* out of 10 stars.Just what I'm looking for with a few additional features added like duel axles,and North /South bed instead of East/ West,Porcelain or Stainless steel sink in bathroom and some type of oven in the kitchen would make this unit a 10!!! Great job on covering this Travel Trailer Josh,,,you Crack me up too.😅
Is Josh enthusiastic about RVs to the point of psychotic? Yes. Is this a Huge Plus for Josh Fans? YES!!! Keep losing your sh*t about RVs, Josh! We are inspired by your total lack of self-control. GO NUTS! WE ARE WITH YOU!
Please always include road mode, it is much appreciated. Absolutely love this floor plan. Less stuff to go wrong and increased storage. Agree on the access door even if you get the max power package, may help with battery/electrical service should you or a tech ever need to. This would be my Ember choice with the max power package. Minor criticisms: If that table top does not swivel/rotate it really needs to, I'd hate to be the person locked into the corner of the murphy sofa location. Would really like to see a 3 burner range/oven combo, but I guess you could lug around a Camp Chef oven range combo and use it outdoors. Perhaps a residential size convection microwave with the max power package. Haven't looked at options recently so perhaps some are addressed.
Awesome camper! I'm more and more impressed with the Ember rigs. Re: power switch placement - I would maybe swap them to the side of the sink cabinet by the 100 outlets.
YES to the OUTSIDE KITCHEN!!!!!! How much room do you have by the door when the bed is down? I want a dinette. I know , I sound like a broken record. I don't need an oven but I would need a convection oven. I use one all the time. I love the 2 burner stove top. More counter space. Coffee/tea area with plugin. I love the refrig. I would buy a second table. We each need a working place. Over all, I love it
I love this camper, but the shower seems narrow (24 inches) for such a big bathroom. Add to that, the shower ledge juts out into the narrow dimension of the shower - why?!? The shower is so long (40 inches), the ledge would be much better placed on the long end. If they can’t physically make the shower wider due to the floor plan, I’d like to at least see one of those shower curtain rods that bows out, giving you functionally more elbow space. Also, minor point, but it would be great if the fold up shelf in the closet were split in half, so you have the option for half hanging storage, and half with an extra shelf. But generally, this is my favorite floor plan!
I like this camper! The bathroom is AWESOME! Of course you know I love the residential Queen size mattress and the fact that it is east to west does not bother me in my situation. I also appreciate the fact that you can actually leave the bed down because there is a second seating area. I'm still not super crazy about where the TV is or the size of it as I think it's a bit small. The kitchen is decent. I appreciate the wall-mounted outlets and you made a very good point about using the dinofa table on one of the sofas as additional prep space. With outlets located on the side stands you could potentially plug in a countertop appliance like a crock pot or a small toaster oven although you would have to be careful about heat transfer as I'm not sure of what the table is actually made of and I wouldn't want it to melt if it was a plastic material. I appreciate the storage space under the sofas although if I were to buy one of these I would probably get a bigger solar package so I would lose storage space under the bed but would still have the storage space under the sofa that faces the kitchen. The pantry space is nice and I like the large refrigerator as well. The cabinets above the shorter sofa are perfect for additional pantry storage clothing storage or other kitchen items you might need to bring along. Although there are multiple drawers I don't know that you're going to be able to easily find a silverware or utensil organizer that would fit in such narrow drawers but that is something you could probably find a work around 4:00. As far as what would I use the space by the bed in the cubby areas I would like to use that for what I would use any side stand for my eyeglasses, my phone, a book, etc. It doesn't look like you can use the side stands when the bed is down so I think CPAP users might be out of luck with this unless you had a small TV tray type table that you could set next to the bed to house your CPAP at night. Not an issue for me but I know for many it is. The only thing I would like to see added to this would be the fact that I would prefer that the sofas reclined, however that is relatively minor considering most campers this size don't have any seating space other than a dinette and I would much rather have a double dinofa than a dinette. Thanks nerd!
Stick and Tin builds will be much cheaper, and last not very long. The construction on something like this sounds like it can give airstreams a run in terms of longevity.
I guess you could say that it would be a good rig for someone who wants to camp at places that often have a 25' length restriction. It has plenary of counter space for an air fryer or toaster oven to make up for the lack of built-in oven anyway.
❤️it But.. Too Heavy for 5000 lb rated 4Runners, the most popular 4x4 here in the Colorado Rocky Mountains. The Rockwood 19FD is popular among Toyota 4Runner users but the axel & suspension is not heavy duty for much off highway use. Anyone listening?
I would love to see them get rid of the second sofa on the side and add extra storage/space for washer/dryer for solo campers that don't need a ton of seating space.
Amen! That's the hardest part of picking up THIS new EMBER tomorrow... In losing the washer in the 14' garage. But it's 12 years old now (RV, not washer lol) The search begins for tiny washer.
If Ember ever decides to make a 5ver Toy Hauler I'm sold! Love the build quality and the understanding that max solar is a thing that many people do want. I'm really charged up on this company! I mean watt is not to love here! As always your videos are electrifying.
Amazing floor plan, outside kitchen, and inside storage. Don't need an oven cause I can make biscuits in a microwave! Seriously a limited 2 burner stove top is perfect! Great storage!! Very impressive unit! 😍 Thanks for sharing
I keep coming back to this one as my favorite. One major issue that keeps me from choosing it? The sofa is too low for me to relax and look out the window...BUT, I just had the idea that I may be able to raise the sofa up high enough to insert storage drawers underneath AND look out the window. Bingo-Bango, this may be the one.
Josh I have Idea for a placement for the bed light put by the receptacle by sink so the bed down you can get to it. second Idea cut square on the table have insert tube ( hitched pin or weld nut and bolt with handle with hole about two inches apart) then the table can be same height as kitchen counter) So what do you think? can I get a convection microwave and can it fit in?
In the shelf space when the bed is folded down: excellent spot for a CPAP machine. The top shelf would probably fit the machine, and the height would keep the hose elevated. Also: water, glasses, a couple books, tissues
@@JoshtheRVNerd "spoonie" refers to the Spoon Theory, it applies to people with chronic pain and/or other invisible disabilities. Refers to how we have to budget our energy to get stuff done. So a "spoonie" is a person who feels the Spoon Theory applies to their life
Having a 60 amp dcdc charger from your tow vehicle or stack two of those you can run that fridge and the AC going down the road and be putting out enough to keep your lithium batteries charged I love the DCDC chargers along with a 3,000 watt inverter and a 300ah battery with 250 amp BMS with solar
Nice camper, two couches are nice, but could one be replaced with a pair of recliners? Love the Stargazer and the outside kitchen. Next time you do a sing along, you need to have the words scroll across the bottom.
Very nice for a single person. I could get creative with the storage and totally make it work. Its not my absolute favorite, but definitely a favorite. Also don't mind no oven. Im a microwave person and I love the shower.
@@JoshtheRVNerd good for winter and for looking cool hahaha. but yeah, i hear ya. OPUS and Bruder and some other high-end Australian use a darker color scheme which I like. Does painting/dipping the top half void the warranty? :D
Great floor plan. I love the fact that there is no oven. We never use ours and wish our camper did not have it. We barely ever use the indoor stove, preferring to do all cooking outside.
About the door; you talk about the shade in the window, but you forgot to mention that there is a screen door between you and the door window. Can you really use the shade???
I do like the Embers, but there's no way I can afford one that hasn't been in a wreck in a year when gas is $10 a gallon. LOL! Five stars for the bathroom, but I'd still ditch the door and just put up a curtain. And I enjoyed your stoned surfer-dude impression. :P
Embers are getting better! Still can’t stand a Murphy bed, want a walk around queen. And I want a oven. Waiting on a bigger camper Ember!! But I’m impressed with what you’re making so far! And you forgot to pose Josh! 😝😝
I feel like they need to refine and slightly beef up the wheel well fender flares. Also, maybe it was the lighting in this video but the chassis looked gray. Is it now galvanized steel or are we running out of black paint in the supply chain? 😆 And yes. We do appreciate the detailed dive on all your videos.
I would move the stove top to near the bed and sink to next to fridge and have the free counter top in between sink and stove. With having the stove top on the side you could have the two larger the two large cabinet doors next to each other and have larger shelf space.
I was really excited to purchase an RV in VA. But after finding out I need a score of 800-850 to get best rates, and only a1 year warranty, and I noticed quality control poblems on the 2 trailers I looked at. A Rubicon and a Jayco. Then it hit me that my 07 Equinox won't pull what I want, and I need RV insurance, gap insurance, this is alot to soak in. I am taking a break and will reconsider this fall. IF I find a used Tahoe or Suburban and sell my Equinox then I will definitely reconsider. My local dealer is Camping World. Wanted to sell the same day. And it was quite alot to take in. Thankfully I got out of there before agreeing to anything. I wish I lived in your state. Very good videos from you.
Wow, so many blocks checked‼️ For MY needs, this model just gave GeoPro the BOOT‼️ Higher ground clearance, rear mounted spare vs belly mounted, more durable construction, optional articulating hitch, axleless suspension and optional solar pkg that put GeoPro COMPLETELY out of the running. Just wondering about price comparison with GeoPro's closest comparable floorplan 🤔
I've never owned a trailer but have been thinking about buying one and this Ember is one that I'm looking at. I do not understand the concern with the hitch weight and mid-size trucks. I drive a Tacoma with a max towing of 6400Lbs and a recommendation that hitch weight of 9% to 11% of trailers total weight. I owners' manual does not list a hitch weight limit, but some web sites list it as 1300Lbs. - sway control device require for towing over 2000Lbs - weight distribution device required if towing over 5000Lbs
Ember's product development manager has a mid-size pickup (ranger I think? Maybe tacoma?) & hauls a 190MDB to overlanding events himself (and with his family) He says in windy zones it can get dicey but overall he's been perfectly fine I see similar responses in ember's owner's group on facebook. Perhaps they can help you here: facebook.com/groups/1075025376649400
The new Aventa air they use on overlands draws less juice and has a softer startup spike. I'm not sure what size would work here as I haven't tested. You might be able to get away with like a 2500 but I'm not certain on that
Looks like Ember continues to listen to feedback. Their site now shows a 191MSL for all those that want the roomier slide without bunks or outside kitchen. Lots of possibilities there for you folks. @Josh - looks like you've got some ordering to do so you can get a video made :)
My favorite so far. I would rather have a permanent camp queen bed that didn’t block door instead of Murphy. We currently have a camp queen and it fits us fine.
At the time these were made originally Lagun tables were in short supply. Ember is starting to use them very regularly. Check some more recent Ember videos and keep an eye for more coming out!
love these embers.... and the skylight they put up front is best i seen overall, big view, opens for air, love skylights in a rv in general, bed is perfectly fine, that little cubby you cant get to with bed closed would be a good place to put things you would rather not have found in certain states, such as your weed. the 2nd couch is ok... but seems almost a waste since it faces strait at the ass of whoever cooking and nothing else really.... for those who would leave the bed down, i would probably still want it... but for me, i see folding bed up to be easy enough, and rather sit at that couch for all reasons..... what i would do in that spot, is put possibly a desk /counter type space there instead facing out the window, which can have some drawers or cabinets in it, tv stay where it is be fine, even if sitting at counter or desk as you may use it. or maybe a couple swivel chairs instead of couch... not really sure, just 2nd couch seems a bit useless except for the dog to lay on, many things i can think of doing with that spot that would be more useful to me, but i dont have any friends that need to sit on 2nd couch anyway. nice little kitchen outside, perfect for my purposes. these things are built like tanks, something like a sofa where i fart in the face of my guest while i cook is not a deal breaker by no means, just rather space have option of other uses... i would say a small 2 person dinette would be ok there, at least one seat facing strait at tv, as seen in some other models. ... many seem to put dinettes where i would want theatre seats, and theatre seats where a dinette may be better i have noticed, this is one of those cases... if counter facing out is not doable, dinette 2nd best for this one in my opinion... but remember, my preferences on rvs come from perspective of a single man with no kids, may be a totally stupid setup for a couple or someone with a kid or two traveling with them, very hard to make a single unit that appeals to such wide spectrum, and we know building niche specific units that are not good for much else is EXPENSIVE, simply because you will not sell a lot of them, how many people need an rv that can hold 2 race cars or 8 horses? not many, and you can not use one kind of trailer for the other, if you need both functions, you need 2 different rv trailers period, but if someone made a trailer that could do both, 2 race cars or 8 horses, or one car and 4 horses lol, that trailer would out sell both of the single use models over time, and probably become cheaper than the specific built ones as they will now appeal to both crowds.....family trailer vs singles trailer same issues..... but these embers as they sit, such as this one with the couch i do not care for, do cover both types of needs very well, great for the single person, or the couple with a kid or two, as i said not a deal breaker, i would buy trailer anyway, just rather have something else there myself. nothing about embers i do not like, built so very well and rugged, very well laid out floorplans, seem to kinda... "work" better than similar close to same in other models, just little things like the skylight right over bed/couch instead of over kitchen or some spot noone is ever under much, all come together very nicely, i am very impressed with ember overall, did a great job of building a tough comfortable box regardless of floorplans i have seen so far, they are all very good very well executed.
I like the idea of the dinette or recliner or desk. However, the dinette could work for most of the desk functions as long as it has at least a couple of 110 outlets.
Does nobody make a 17-20ft like this without slides or bunks with a north/south bed orientation (full size queen) and an actual oven? I want compact and I want an oven so I can make bread & desserts but I don't want someone crawling over me each night when she has to go pee at 3AM - gets my hopes up and then disappoints nearly every time. 😆
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I love the !MEGA-BATH! I need a regular dinette though it just seems right inna trailer.
PERFECT for me! Single parent of 2 furr babies.
Convection/microwave oven and solar package; just in case I missed those options.
You are the best! Keep being you and bringing it! Blessings to you!
This is my favorite of the Embers. Plenty of storage and a extra sofa for the dog. The bathroom is the best one I have seen in a long time.
The moreI see of Ember the more I love.
They’re going to keep getting better. Just wait :)
This is my favorite Ember out of all of them. The storage and counter space is much better on the floor plan. I wonder why they put a plastic sink in the bathroom? Stainless would be better and less…cheap looking. I’m not a fan of the East West bed but they definitely nailed the finishing around the frame when the bed is up. A convection oven would be preferred then you don’t need an oven. I’m looking forward and holding out to seeing the dual axle. Great review!
I agree with the convection microwave-- that would be a great addition because then it would serve two purposes and not require an oven. Of note as well... PLEASE @EMBER people - please figure out how to put this sort of thing not above a 5'2" height. As a nurse, I cringe every time I see a microwave oven that would require me to lift a hot or steaming item from above my eyeline. It is a safety issue in my mind. Think about the nightmare scenario of a person boondocking who gets a bad burn out in the boonies. Not a great situation! Please try to find a better placement for that. Thanks!
After the rust during storage all over my stainless sinks in my E-Pro, plastic would be PHENOMENAL! Every attempt at dehumidification has been taken!
Do you have any of these units in your orgon lots ?
Favorite floor plan so far. Huge fan of the added storage, counter space, camp side window and rear bath. Wouldn't mind seeing this floor plan as a 19 vs 17. Eagerly awaiting a dual axle maybe 25 or 26 feet? I keep checking Ember's site and this morning saw a new 191 MSL. Please, please, please Ember go a bit bigger. As usual Josh you rock!
like the 170MRB Floor plan except it doesn't have a dinette or enough counter space for my liking. One more bed would be nice too. Putting this floor plan on the 190 frame would allow an extra 2 feet of length. The additional length would allow putting in an oven and adding countertop and storage next to the sink. We very seldom use an oven in a camper, but Its nice to be able to put dirty dishes on one side of the sink, wash them, and then put them on the other side to dry. The jackknife sofa could be replaced with a dinette. Instead of cabinets above the dinette, a drop down bunk (like the Hi-Lo campers had) would be great. The extra 2 feet length would allow a cabinet and counter space next to the dinette and allow room for the bathroom door to open. Would be great for a families of up to 5.
This is a high end top drawer travel trailer (camper). This is like a back country Airstream Bambi. But one you would find in the wilds of Montana instead of luxury RV parks of the gulf coast or midwest. This thing is stuffed to the eyeballs with all kinds of neat features, and nice high grade features at that. I saw many many really cool gadgets and just plain kool stuff and hardware on this guy. I love it. The Curt suspension, nifty wheel chocks, ladder and interior subtle touches all add to the flat out goodness of this trailer. But you do pay for it. Both in price and weight. And the requirement for a beefier tow rig to pull it. This is a nice trailer! At $48,000 to $55,000, and about 4,200 pounds dry and 5,500 pounds gross weight, it is definitely a premium trailer.
Now park it next to the Braxton Creek Bushwhacker Plus 17FD which comes in at around 2,300 pounds dry, 3,300 pounds gross weight and price around $15,000 to $17,000, and you see just how far apart this really nice Ember trailer is from the regular entry level smaller single axle camper/travel trailers. A truly worthy trailer for the discerning buyer looking for something special. This is it. It can be dragged through rugged terrain and just get a little muddy and dust covered with minimal damage but literally would rip the Bushwhacker apart.
But I will come home with the Bushwhacker. Because I like cheap affordable trailers and light weight over fancy, loaded heavy and solid as a brick expensive trailers and I won’t pay the price of admission.
And that my friend, is high praise for the Ember. It’s too nice and good for my taste.
Dude. I FEEL this comment lol
I am so often the same way
As someone who want to boondocks in some fairly rocky areas of my home state, this meets my specific needs. I really appreciate the level of detail Josh has been giving on these. He always does a great job but really digging in to what makes these different has been really helpful .
TY Jay. I sure try man
I absolutely love this floor plan! This is our #1 pick of the Ember RV trailers so far! Really like how everything works. The switches by the bed you talked about could go up higher on the side of the cabinet. Love it!
The skylight over the bed is a cool touch.
For your comments on the skylight,I take you have to deal with a lot idiots and their comments.
1 Love the closet with the flip down shelve. I always hope manufacturers provide 2-3 removable and height adjustable shelves with each wardrobe where you can hang clothes.
2. Agree with your idea of outside access panel for interior storage in the pass-through.
3. What about a countertop icemaker in the outside kitchen? Whiskey anyone? The griddle can be placed on a picnic table.
4.. I would love a wall TV hook and hookups outside. If the it a smart TV, it can also mirror the phone screen for kids and adults as well.
One of the best reviews ever I love your attitude you’re very entertaining thanks for the video awesome job be blessed
I love your humor! Thanks for the tour! Great Rv!
road mode is very helpful Josh keep up the good work God Bless
You got it. Ty
OK Josh.... This one is the one... Love that bathroom set up and,even though I'm not a huge Murphy bed fan, at least this could be left permanently down... I like the no slide versions of campers. Just feels like less things to tear up on you. Love the quality of these things and the euro windows...
Great camper. Thanks for sharing Josh👍👍
The amber lights are awesome at night. REALLY nice small touch that works very well.
Totally agree on ditching outside speakers. Their sound quality usually sucks (as does the interior ceiling speakers). I do wish, however, they could come with a smart TV, DVD player, sound bar with radio tuner. This rig is going to go places with no TV signal, and if you have a day when the weather sucks you might want to watch Vito make someone an offer they can’t refuse.
Like how the table hooks on to the Murphy bed. Extra prep space.
Yeah you get a little creative and this works pretty well
I'm really charged up & amp'd up with this Floorplan. It is absolutely electrifying to see this little power packed trailer. It's got a shockingly amount of storage
Love the bathroom & the extra shelf in the closet. LOTS of storage if you need clothes for all seasons in a day or weekend like would be needed around here. I really appreciate the info regarding how the showermiser works.
Nice wheel chock!!!! And secure! Love it!
MODIFICATION: What I'd do is remove the secondary sofa opp the kitchen, add a folding bar style counter top under the window, so that if not in use it can be folded dowm ans flush with the wall. Add folding chairs for seating when in use. Or nornal chairs, the point is the sofa under the bed will be used the most for leisure TV watching or the bed. For guests, the chairs will do. So this stuff give more space for passing through and kitchen prep etc.
Optional. Complete solar, remove the propane entirely, replace as many batteries on the front storage gear box, remove the gas cooktop, put an induction cooktop, the outer grill can be modified to use the small portable propane cans for grill use. Add as many solar panels on the roof too for obvious reasons.
Love the bar idea.. maybe it’s something Ember might try??
1:32 that's a happy stove and drawer.
I bought an 2022 Ember RV Overland 171FB last June. We have had a number of issues with the trailer, some related to bad appliances (12V Refridgerator and A/C unit) but most were due to poor quality control. The build date on ours was March so it would be nice to know they improved leaking faucets, ungreased front jack, gaps in structure, and kinked plumbing hoses on the Truma system that were common in models last year. All of the issues we encountered were also noted by dealer repair shops we have used all over the southeast US. You might consider an update as we bought ours based on recommendations from your podcast and others amazed by the new product.
I will investigate. Ty
I absolutely love this RV and floor plan.. Sometimes I travel alone. For me the jackknife sofa needs to be a small dinette for 2 people. It could possibly convert into a single bed. That would make it absolutely perfect for me.
The dinette is definitely the more traditional route. I think Ember purposely tried to make themselves a bit different and help provide extra space when the table was not deployed
Doesn't work for everyone obviously and I'm really just estimating here.
They definitely need a dinette
This is my favorite so far but I would delete that sofa.
Maybe replace it with 2 Happier Camper cubes and put a pole on that table or a Bistro set that could be used outside
Still waiting for Ember to make longer box models so we can permanent walk around bed style options
Great job Josh. Absolutely,the best Ember yet. I would like to know how much the max solar package upgrade would cost and what is all included in that package.
I really like this layout, the quality build and love the big rear bath!
Glad you like it!
Honestly replacing the second sofa with a dinette would seem like a better use of space, even a small one.
That’s the more traditional setup for sure. Thx for watching
Wow! Now that's a bathroom!! With a closet!?🤯🤯
Josh we love love this unit! Currently we have a 2022 Keystone Hideout 174RK - we like it but don’t love it, the dealership we bought it from said the sofa for the Murphy bed was damaged from the factory so they pulled a different sofa from another unit which is puffy and when you convert to the bed our feet are higher than our head - oh my I always wake with a headache - another dislike is the dinette slide, I need a step stool to get up in it, would have rather had a sofa in the slide and last but least is the bathroom, it’s so tight that both my husband and myself have cut our arms on the cupboard pull, it could have been designed differently. So we are looking for a different unit, can’t seem to get Keystone to work with us. … but we really love everything about the Ember line
Cute little camper! if that Mervin shelf was 2 piece so you could have some hanging and some extra shelf storage would be *chef's kiss*
That’s a pretty cool idea
This is 9* out of 10 stars.Just what I'm looking for with a few additional features added like duel axles,and North /South bed instead of East/ West,Porcelain or Stainless steel sink in bathroom and some type of oven in the kitchen would make this unit a 10!!! Great job on covering this Travel Trailer Josh,,,you Crack me up too.😅
Is Josh enthusiastic about RVs to the point of psychotic? Yes. Is this a Huge Plus for Josh Fans? YES!!! Keep losing your sh*t about RVs, Josh! We are inspired by your total lack of self-control. GO NUTS! WE ARE WITH YOU!
Lol roger that :)
Thanks Sparky! Brilliant video.
sparky lol
This is my favorite Ember!
Nice!
What puts it on top for you?
Please always include road mode, it is much appreciated. Absolutely love this floor plan. Less stuff to go wrong and increased storage. Agree on the access door even if you get the max power package, may help with battery/electrical service should you or a tech ever need to. This would be my Ember choice with the max power package. Minor criticisms: If that table top does not swivel/rotate it really needs to, I'd hate to be the person locked into the corner of the murphy sofa location. Would really like to see a 3 burner range/oven combo, but I guess you could lug around a Camp Chef oven range combo and use it outdoors. Perhaps a residential size convection microwave with the max power package. Haven't looked at options recently so perhaps some are addressed.
@@Erin-Thor My comment was based on a question from Josh in the video you obviously did not watch. Context is everything dumb ass.
Awesome camper! I'm more and more impressed with the Ember rigs.
Re: power switch placement - I would maybe swap them to the side of the sink cabinet by the 100 outlets.
YES to the OUTSIDE KITCHEN!!!!!! How much room do you have by the door when the bed is down? I want a dinette. I know , I sound like a broken record. I don't need an oven but I would need a convection oven. I use one all the time. I love the 2 burner stove top. More counter space. Coffee/tea area with plugin. I love the refrig. I would buy a second table. We each need a working place. Over all, I love it
I love this camper, but the shower seems narrow (24 inches) for such a big bathroom. Add to that, the shower ledge juts out into the narrow dimension of the shower - why?!? The shower is so long (40 inches), the ledge would be much better placed on the long end. If they can’t physically make the shower wider due to the floor plan, I’d like to at least see one of those shower curtain rods that bows out, giving you functionally more elbow space. Also, minor point, but it would be great if the fold up shelf in the closet were split in half, so you have the option for half hanging storage, and half with an extra shelf. But generally, this is my favorite floor plan!
This is the way.
Lol youre a great comedian so natural
Great storage for a small camper!
I like this camper! The bathroom is AWESOME! Of course you know I love the residential Queen size mattress and the fact that it is east to west does not bother me in my situation. I also appreciate the fact that you can actually leave the bed down because there is a second seating area. I'm still not super crazy about where the TV is or the size of it as I think it's a bit small. The kitchen is decent. I appreciate the wall-mounted outlets and you made a very good point about using the dinofa table on one of the sofas as additional prep space. With outlets located on the side stands you could potentially plug in a countertop appliance like a crock pot or a small toaster oven although you would have to be careful about heat transfer as I'm not sure of what the table is actually made of and I wouldn't want it to melt if it was a plastic material. I appreciate the storage space under the sofas although if I were to buy one of these I would probably get a bigger solar package so I would lose storage space under the bed but would still have the storage space under the sofa that faces the kitchen. The pantry space is nice and I like the large refrigerator as well. The cabinets above the shorter sofa are perfect for additional pantry storage clothing storage or other kitchen items you might need to bring along. Although there are multiple drawers I don't know that you're going to be able to easily find a silverware or utensil organizer that would fit in such narrow drawers but that is something you could probably find a work around 4:00. As far as what would I use the space by the bed in the cubby areas I would like to use that for what I would use any side stand for my eyeglasses, my phone, a book, etc. It doesn't look like you can use the side stands when the bed is down so I think CPAP users might be out of luck with this unless you had a small TV tray type table that you could set next to the bed to house your CPAP at night. Not an issue for me but I know for many it is. The only thing I would like to see added to this would be the fact that I would prefer that the sofas reclined, however that is relatively minor considering most campers this size don't have any seating space other than a dinette and I would much rather have a double dinofa than a dinette. Thanks nerd!
Always a pleasure. Thank YOU!!
The humor hertz’s. 😃
Ok, this with the power package is giving the GeoPro 20FBS a run for the money….
That price…
Stick and Tin builds will be much cheaper, and last not very long. The construction on something like this sounds like it can give airstreams a run in terms of longevity.
No comparison to Geo pro is junk
I believe the material on the pillows is called Sherpa
Just googled it.. looks about right. thank you! I continue to learn so much from folks like yourself :)
I guess you could say that it would be a good rig for someone who wants to camp at places that often have a 25' length restriction. It has plenary of counter space for an air fryer or toaster oven to make up for the lack of built-in oven anyway.
Nice! Switch the table to the adjustable height foldaway legs ... better extra counter space.
one extra benefit with that TV being where it is with a swing arm is....open the window and watch TV outside without moving it out there.
hmm.. I wonder how well that would actually work. Now you got me thinking
❤️it But..
Too Heavy for 5000 lb rated 4Runners, the most popular 4x4 here in the Colorado Rocky Mountains.
The Rockwood 19FD is popular among Toyota 4Runner users but the axel & suspension is not heavy duty for much off highway use.
Anyone listening?
I would love to see them get rid of the second sofa on the side and add extra storage/space for washer/dryer for solo campers that don't need a ton of seating space.
Amen! That's the hardest part of picking up THIS new EMBER tomorrow... In losing the washer in the 14' garage. But it's 12 years old now (RV, not washer lol)
The search begins for tiny washer.
Do you know if a lagune table mount will fit in the Dinoooofa bracket?
If Ember ever decides to make a 5ver Toy Hauler I'm sold! Love the build quality and the understanding that max solar is a thing that many people do want. I'm really charged up on this company! I mean watt is not to love here! As always your videos are electrifying.
Exactly what I’ve been looking for!!
Amazing floor plan, outside kitchen, and inside storage. Don't need an oven cause I can make biscuits in a microwave! Seriously a limited 2 burner stove top is perfect! Great storage!! Very impressive unit! 😍
Thanks for sharing
My pleasure Resa!!
I keep coming back to this one as my favorite. One major issue that keeps me from choosing it? The sofa is too low for me to relax and look out the window...BUT, I just had the idea that I may be able to raise the sofa up high enough to insert storage drawers underneath AND look out the window. Bingo-Bango, this may be the one.
That could be cool!!
Love this brand, but we need the walk around queen.
Theres a cool cooktop baker for camping that gets great reviews. Its omni? Umni? Something like that. Small and light too!
After years of comparing, this is my trailer! Finally! Prefer dual axle, but weight is a concern. Power package is a must. Less is “re-volting” 🥴
These puns really get me juiced up
Did I see access in pantry cabinet to the piping for the shower. I have had to replace shower knob plumbing and it is hard to get to the piping.
Josh I have Idea for a placement for the bed light put by the receptacle by sink so the bed down you can get to it. second Idea cut square on the table have insert tube ( hitched pin or weld nut and bolt with handle with hole about two inches apart) then the table can be same height as kitchen counter) So what do you think? can I get a convection microwave and can it fit in?
In the shelf space when the bed is folded down: excellent spot for a CPAP machine. The top shelf would probably fit the machine, and the height would keep the hose elevated.
Also: water, glasses, a couple books, tissues
Your screen name - what’s the Spoonie life?
@@JoshtheRVNerd "spoonie" refers to the Spoon Theory, it applies to people with chronic pain and/or other invisible disabilities. Refers to how we have to budget our energy to get stuff done. So a "spoonie" is a person who feels the Spoon Theory applies to their life
@@spooniesarah wow I wouldn’t have guessed! Ty for sharing
@@JoshtheRVNerd no problem!
I'm liking the Ember's, I mostly boondock while shooting and feel like my Wolf Pack 23Pack15 is oversized for some places I want to go.
Yeah that model especially as much larger than the model number lead you to believe
Having a 60 amp dcdc charger from your tow vehicle or stack two of those you can run that fridge and the AC going down the road and be putting out enough to keep your lithium batteries charged
I love the DCDC chargers along with a 3,000 watt inverter and a 300ah battery with 250 amp BMS with solar
Nice camper, two couches are nice, but could one be replaced with a pair of recliners? Love the Stargazer and the outside kitchen.
Next time you do a sing along, you need to have the words scroll across the bottom.
Very nice for a single person. I could get creative with the storage and totally make it work. Its not my absolute favorite, but definitely a favorite. Also don't mind no oven. Im a microwave person and I love the shower.
Lube goes in that book space.
i wish they had charcoal or blacked out color option. 12V A/C should be used when a MAX solar package is available. i love murphy bed options.
Like a full black exterior? Could look cool.. I worry about how hot it would get, though
@@JoshtheRVNerd good for winter and for looking cool hahaha. but yeah, i hear ya. OPUS and Bruder and some other high-end Australian use a darker color scheme which I like. Does painting/dipping the top half void the warranty? :D
Great floor plan. I love the fact that there is no oven. We never use ours and wish our camper did not have it. We barely ever use the indoor stove, preferring to do all cooking outside.
Ours is a great bread box 😂
This is nice. I will put this one on my short list.
Enjoy!
About the door; you talk about the shade in the window, but you forgot to mention that there is a screen door between you and the door window. Can you really use the shade???
Nice to meet you Jas! I'm Piotr!
I do like the Embers, but there's no way I can afford one that hasn't been in a wreck in a year when gas is $10 a gallon. LOL! Five stars for the bathroom, but I'd still ditch the door and just put up a curtain. And I enjoyed your stoned surfer-dude impression. :P
Lol thank you. Do my my
Voices like my stunts: badly
Embers are getting better! Still can’t stand a Murphy bed, want a walk around queen. And I want a oven. Waiting on a bigger camper Ember!! But I’m impressed with what you’re making so far! And you forgot to pose Josh! 😝😝
I wish I was closer to you. I'm about 4.5hrs from you in Wisconsin. Warranty seems like it'd be a nightmare
Everytime you show a unit I say "that's the one I want" 😉. This one really checks alot of the boxes though. Love it!
36:57 Is there a pin that removes to let the spare tire swing down?
3:41 🛋 “PIVOT!” ~ Ross on #Friends 📺 😆🤣😂😅
Actually a show I never got into
And oddly.. Seinfeld. Never got into it
I enjoy it when I see it. Just never went out of my way to watch it
The little shelf nook by the bed would nicely hold an evening bourbon.
I feel like they need to refine and slightly beef up the wheel well fender flares. Also, maybe it was the lighting in this video but the chassis looked gray. Is it now galvanized steel or are we running out of black paint in the supply chain? 😆 And yes. We do appreciate the detailed dive on all your videos.
I would move the stove top to near the bed and sink to next to fridge and have the free counter top in between sink and stove. With having the stove top on the side you could have the two larger the two large cabinet doors next to each other and have larger shelf space.
I was really excited to purchase an RV in VA. But after finding out I need a score of 800-850 to get best rates, and only a1 year warranty, and I noticed quality control poblems on the 2 trailers I looked at. A Rubicon and a Jayco. Then it hit me that my 07 Equinox won't pull what I want, and I need RV insurance, gap insurance, this is alot to soak in. I am taking a break and will reconsider this fall. IF I find a used Tahoe or Suburban and sell my Equinox then I will definitely reconsider. My local dealer is Camping World. Wanted to sell the same day. And it was quite alot to take in. Thankfully I got out of there before agreeing to anything. I wish I lived in your state. Very good videos from you.
The bed is supported by the two couch arms, but there's nothing in the middle. How sturdy is it? I saw it kinda bounce. Thanks, Josh.
Totally solid. Zero worries there.
@@JoshtheRVNerd Thanks!
Wow, so many blocks checked‼️ For MY needs, this model just gave GeoPro the BOOT‼️ Higher ground clearance, rear mounted spare vs belly mounted, more durable construction, optional articulating hitch, axleless suspension and optional solar pkg that put GeoPro COMPLETELY out of the running. Just wondering about price comparison with GeoPro's closest comparable floorplan 🤔
I've never owned a trailer but have been thinking about buying one and this Ember is one that I'm looking at.
I do not understand the concern with the hitch weight and mid-size trucks. I drive a Tacoma with a max towing of 6400Lbs and a recommendation that hitch weight of 9% to 11% of trailers total weight. I owners' manual does not list a hitch weight limit, but some web sites list it as 1300Lbs.
- sway control device require for towing over 2000Lbs
- weight distribution device required if towing over 5000Lbs
Ember's product development manager has a mid-size pickup (ranger I think? Maybe tacoma?) & hauls a 190MDB to overlanding events himself (and with his family)
He says in windy zones it can get dicey but overall he's been perfectly fine
I see similar responses in ember's owner's group on facebook. Perhaps they can help you here: facebook.com/groups/1075025376649400
@@JoshtheRVNerd Thanks a lot for the reply and info. I appreciate it.
Nice job as always would you know how big of a generator it would take to run the AC
The new Aventa air they use on overlands draws less juice and has a softer startup spike. I'm not sure what size would work here as I haven't tested. You might be able to get away with like a 2500 but I'm not certain on that
Looks like Ember continues to listen to feedback. Their site now shows a 191MSL for all those that want the roomier slide without bunks or outside kitchen. Lots of possibilities there for you folks. @Josh - looks like you've got some ordering to do so you can get a video made :)
Exactly! I have seen proto photos. This thing is going to be their best yet
Thanks Uncle Bish.
I did not know that the Bosley Hair Replacement system, was a Tribble. 😂
My favorite so far. I would rather have a permanent camp queen bed that didn’t block door instead of Murphy. We currently have a camp queen and it fits us fine.
Love it
Love that table! But maybe a lagun bracket system would be better? They are a good investment for small spaces!.
At the time these were made originally Lagun tables were in short supply. Ember is starting to use them very regularly. Check some more recent Ember videos and keep an eye for more coming out!
27:54 I'd like to see the battery disconnect switch closer to the baggage door so there's less chance of gear hitting/breaking the key.
That is perfect!
Also, great episode!
Ty!!
love these embers.... and the skylight they put up front is best i seen overall, big view, opens for air, love skylights in a rv in general, bed is perfectly fine, that little cubby you cant get to with bed closed would be a good place to put things you would rather not have found in certain states, such as your weed. the 2nd couch is ok... but seems almost a waste since it faces strait at the ass of whoever cooking and nothing else really.... for those who would leave the bed down, i would probably still want it... but for me, i see folding bed up to be easy enough, and rather sit at that couch for all reasons..... what i would do in that spot, is put possibly a desk /counter type space there instead facing out the window, which can have some drawers or cabinets in it, tv stay where it is be fine, even if sitting at counter or desk as you may use it. or maybe a couple swivel chairs instead of couch... not really sure, just 2nd couch seems a bit useless except for the dog to lay on, many things i can think of doing with that spot that would be more useful to me, but i dont have any friends that need to sit on 2nd couch anyway. nice little kitchen outside, perfect for my purposes. these things are built like tanks, something like a sofa where i fart in the face of my guest while i cook is not a deal breaker by no means, just rather space have option of other uses... i would say a small 2 person dinette would be ok there, at least one seat facing strait at tv, as seen in some other models. ... many seem to put dinettes where i would want theatre seats, and theatre seats where a dinette may be better i have noticed, this is one of those cases... if counter facing out is not doable, dinette 2nd best for this one in my opinion... but remember, my preferences on rvs come from perspective of a single man with no kids, may be a totally stupid setup for a couple or someone with a kid or two traveling with them, very hard to make a single unit that appeals to such wide spectrum, and we know building niche specific units that are not good for much else is EXPENSIVE, simply because you will not sell a lot of them, how many people need an rv that can hold 2 race cars or 8 horses? not many, and you can not use one kind of trailer for the other, if you need both functions, you need 2 different rv trailers period, but if someone made a trailer that could do both, 2 race cars or 8 horses, or one car and 4 horses lol, that trailer would out sell both of the single use models over time, and probably become cheaper than the specific built ones as they will now appeal to both crowds.....family trailer vs singles trailer same issues..... but these embers as they sit, such as this one with the couch i do not care for, do cover both types of needs very well, great for the single person, or the couple with a kid or two, as i said not a deal breaker, i would buy trailer anyway, just rather have something else there myself. nothing about embers i do not like, built so very well and rugged, very well laid out floorplans, seem to kinda... "work" better than similar close to same in other models, just little things like the skylight right over bed/couch instead of over kitchen or some spot noone is ever under much, all come together very nicely, i am very impressed with ember overall, did a great job of building a tough comfortable box regardless of floorplans i have seen so far, they are all very good very well executed.
I like the idea of the dinette or recliner or desk. However, the dinette could work for most of the desk functions as long as it has at least a couple of 110 outlets.
Would love to see twin beds, go on trips with my brother.
As usual, very informative as well as entertaining. Carlos McGillicutty? 😂😂💀
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Can the tv tilt towards the open window for outside audio?
Great layout for an extra fluffy person that co-parents a teenager. ❤
Does nobody make a 17-20ft like this without slides or bunks with a north/south bed orientation (full size queen) and an actual oven? I want compact and I want an oven so I can make bread & desserts but I don't want someone crawling over me each night when she has to go pee at 3AM - gets my hopes up and then disappoints nearly every time. 😆
Check out a GeoPro 19FD. You can option in the oven.
Same here - east west beds are for excitable twenty- somethings and single persons NOT for anyone who regularly sleeps with another person lol!
@@MichelleLevasseur yeah, and the 20somethings don't have the same bladder issues at 3a.m. 😆
@@brians7727 wow... thanks!
Usually if you get a bit bigger you get one of these style layouts:
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