AMD keeps it's signature efficiency there with performance per watt, however it will have to start improving it as Intel is striking back with Lunar Lake while both r still far from what can be achieved with custom Arm SoCs like those from Apple for example. Only if Apple would have more games and gaming support on their platform, something what they r now building and what should come in the future. All Mx chips r performance per watt beasts getting better and better🦾 Nvidia is planning to come up with something as well together with Mediatek.
apu is great for mobile device their desktop is just pathetic they wont ever add more gpu core in desktop for some reason but these mobile device get all of them in smaller form factor
I was a console player till the ally came out been on oc ever since. However if you have a good pc the ally is nothing more than a portable way to play your games and should not be your main rig. I'm planning on buying a desktop bc of this.
@coryvallad7578 not my main rig, last pc I made was in 2020 it was beefy at the time. Still a beast now because I used it to play VR games. But I love how I can play my other pc games not limited by Linux. Absolutely love Linux as a os though which is what I use my PI 5 for.
I already purchased a steamdeck,loaded it with a bunch of emulators, a bunch of games and it just sits in a closet collecting dust. Glad to see many of you still get excited over these portables and finding value. Great health and Happy gaming to all of you.
@@urboijash3955 yeah, I don't play with it much, it just sits there in a closet with all the accessories I bought for it. Sometimes I play with it for an hour or two, but back it goes into the closet not to be played again in days, weeks or even months.
@@urboijash3955 steam deck oled is king in terms of battery and screen, performance yes others beat it but whats the point if the battery is hardly an hour...
@@A2YU09 yes I have bought the original Steamdeck, the OLED Steamdeck, Roy ally z1 extreme, and the PlayStation portal and I have either returned or sold them all. I just cannot get into gaming on these.
I've been wanting a handheld PC for ages. With this battery life, and my interests primarily in retro gaming and emulation, and maybe some Diablo VI and Titan Quest 2, this looks like the one to finally make me pull the trigger. Cheers for the deep dive Mr Prime :D
So I did indeed almost buy a rog ally when it was new! I’m still waiting until these bad boy hand helds become better! The progress does look promising
100$? Like the price difference between the Rog Ally and Rog Ally X? Because where I'm from, the Rog Ally (z1 extreme) is 500$ new, and the rog ally x is 900$. I hope the prices will drop by november for black friday, but more than 200$ isn't worth it between the 2 for me.
even though the screen is 7in? it lacks the immersion for AAA games. i wouldn't get it if i was you, i would wait till they start producing 8.4in screens versions instead
@@draco2xxI agree with that statement but using the ROG ALLY for a year, it hasn’t bother me, but to play PC games on a handheld, 7” is the bare minimum and 8” is the sweet spot.
@@perezcoalten i don't think you've even experienced playing on a 8.4in screen before. i promise you, once you do you'll never go back to play on a 7in screen
great review! Good to see that while it's an upgrade it's not a HUGE improvement over the original outside of battery life. A lot of the other fixes like battery and analog controls are simple change outs for a tinkerer which could easily save you $200. I was on the fence on getting the X or an older one and modding it and for my use case, older modded is the way to go.
Man i would love to buy one but my steam deck oled still serves me so well. Love playing indie games on it. I'll wait for the next gen Z2 Extreme before considering an upgrade
I was going to upgrade from the og ally to this one for that battery update and better grips but after getting the xg mobile 6850m for a good price I'll just wait for the next iteration.
I also got that same XGM. How much did you get it for? I got mine a little after the Ally launch for $600 like new. I was so close to getting the 4090 XGM during prime day for $1,500 but kinda bum that Asus is dropping support for it with the X. If the Ally 2 has it tho which I doubt plus a bigger screen for sure I will get the 4090 XGM tho. Hopefully by then it will only cost around $1,200 or so haha.
@volcalstone I also got it like new as well at around the same price range, I couldn't pass up on the deal and tbh it's been a great experience so far! The 6850m is a beast at 1440p. Honestly it is perplexing for me as well that they opt to not support the xgm on the x but for my use case of my i usually keep it plugged in anyway so I'll just update to the 4090 in a few years if need be or just wait for the rog ally 2!
@@demariogoings4295 the Ally and XGM setup is what I passed on to my daughter now as I recently picked up the Go again. I had it at launch but returned it due to the UI and it wasn't ready for primetime. ACSE on the Ally is perfect if you ask me and it's only getting better soon with the new update that is on the X now. I needed a bigger screen so I had to let go of the Ally. If it had a bigger screen I would still be playing on it. The Go is nicer for me overall but just like you I'm waiting for the Ally 2 with the Strix Point APU. Hopefully it will have a bigger screen, if not then I guess it will be something else. I love Asus stuff as I also have a 2022 Flow 16 so that was one of the other reasons why I picked up the XGM to use it on both devices. Of course the gains are bigger on the Ally while my laptop has a 130W 3060 which is around 10-20% less in performance than a 6850M XT. I love AMD for their CPUs but I'm more on the green team when it comes to the GPU. My first choice was the 3080 XGM but those were too expensive at that time. It was more expensive than my X16 Flow laptop alone! 😊 Either way good luck and I can't wait for next year when it comes to handhelds. Btw I barely use my custom 4090 rig anymore since I got back into the handheld game. I just found out that I like more portable stuff overall haha. I will still keep my rig tho as it's a nice show piece haha. I need to put something on my desk right? 😁
try cachyos instead, bazzite currently has an installer issue where the screen is flipped and cut in half forcing you to need a dock and mouse to install correctly. Also cachyos comes with precompiled optimised linux kernals much newer than bazzite, amoungst many other tweaks. Cachy is based on Arch whereas Bazzite is based on Fedora Blue which is owned by RedHat and the less said about that company the better.
The battery is the biggest update. If you didn’t have an issue with the OG then no need to upgrade. You don’t get meaningful changes otherwise. $900 is a bit much and adding OLED would cost more.
Man ETA, I was hoping to see the usual racing games in your review. Since this device does very well with console emulation, rGT4 or Forza Horizon should run fully speed in performance mode. Crazy for a handheld to do that and still have more than reasonable battery life.
It would be awesome to see a video showing the performance of the Ally X when allocating different amounts of RAM to the VRAM! Also a video utilizing eGPUs, especially now that this has a thunderbolt port instead of the XG mobile one. Great video by the way! I’ve been waiting for the X to come out so I can get your perspective and experience with this before I buy 🫡🤝
Some people are upset about the price and comparisons to the Deck. The Deck is a system to move Emulators and Indies mainly. The Rog moves everything. Then about the price... Dude, they are giving you Double on almost everything... Battery, Ram, Storage... Do you also want the processor?? Well, nothing, €1200 then. Come go... They are raising the price by double that of almost everything, don't complain, it is VERY worth it just for €300 more. +50% RAM. +100% Battery. +100% Storage. + Hardware, Sound, Cooling and Ergonomics improvements. For €300 more... Try to do it yourself in your first version and see how much you get...
Yeah half the people think that Oled is a selling point yet they have never owned an oled device and the other half are Deck simps, what do you expect 😅
@@skywalker3760 pues la vdd muy bien. La recomiendo, con el único juego que tengo problemas” es con el DD2. De resto juego a unos 19W o 21W y como la batería es de 80W pues estoy jugando cerca de unas 3 horas tranquilamente.
I have a lenovo legion go and a steam deck and the only problem i have with my legion go is how i hold a controller i play with my hands in a double claw position and the legion go is not a handheld made for me its blocky and big but the steam deck has one of the best controller layouts for how i play i love my steam deck even tho its weaker i just wish there was something i can use as hard as my legion go i use that thing for tuning my car and actually is a productivity item and the rog ally seems like a trade off i can only play claw unless i use my index finger for the left joystick am pretty used to but i dont enjoy playing like that for a long period of time hopefully someone comes up with a steam deck layout but with the internals of this so i can play in peace but also use it as a productivity hog and work and for hobbies
I'm halfway through the review but I'm going to go ahead and predict it will be another Windows handheld review without showing suspend/resume with several games.
I want to take it but it pisses me off to have to transfer my 2 TB from my Z1 extreme. I don't have the motivation, I prefer to wait for the Rog Ally 2.
none of windows handheld can compete this year, maybe legion go has a larger screen, but 1600p is overkilll for the poor chip and its 16:10 meaning lots of indie and japanese games will leave you 2 black bars on top and bottom with that ips glow to your eyes
@@OleksiiK21 yeah you could argue steam deck oled has oled and better price and the os is incredible, in fact I own one for more than 6months now. But in what way is legion go better than ally x lol? does it have better battery life? is it lighter? is the screen native landscape with vrr support? does it have a better frontend app? does it have better button layout like a true xbox controller? or does it have better cooling & fan noise? or does it have more and faster ram?
Been seeing reviews on best buy that some people have been having it not turn on at all even with it plugged in someone had the right trigger completely stop working after 30 mins but mostly the bad reviews were about how the battery will not hold a charge at all or it just won't turn on so take that as you will
You should have upped the vram a litte to see what kind of performance boost that would give the games. Realistically you dont need 16 gb for the OS especially if dont have multiple tabs and apps open at once. I would have bumped it up to 12 and then left 12 for the OS plenty for both.....
Only after watching this I realized the Ally x reminds me of the Sega Game gear. I guess it's good progress after 30 years considering this is a portable and powerful x86 computer-dream come true for pocketable PC. As a gaming device, i feel the progress a bit sluggish. The $800 asking price is a bit steep considering the only huge upgrade is the RAM. I guess next AMD APU and handhelds will cost more??
Ik ppl talk bad about the lil cardboard stands, but honestly, its better than nothing The amount of times i have needed a stand for my deck and i have to use my phone stand all wobbly is crazy lol At least this one stands it up firmly and if u take care of it, it shouldnt rip or break
There isn't any handhelds at this time. They will probably be a few maybe at CES. If not it will be mid-year instead of either showing it for the first time or it being available. So at the earliest another year from now.
The analog sticks seem to be smaller than the regular ones on the PS5 and Xbox controllers. I don't like the idea of the controllers being fixed to the screen; if you have any problems with the analogs, it will be complicated to fix.
As a Radeon user. These handhelds may overtake the laptop market- long as the joysticks and buttons don’t wear out prematurely like a cheapo Sony controller, AFMF2 with frame gen is a game changer for these. Holy crap. It’s amazing what software has been able to do in helping out older hardware have a longer life span. 42 fps on 2077? It’s going to be a much higher number with frame generation through the drivers (implementation from cdpr is hot garbage lol) I want one of these. Idk about ASUS though I’m scared of ASUS trying to screw me over in the event I have to send it back to them.
2:15 They should not upgrade, it's not something worth spending that much more money into a company that can't even provide proper warranty support. And it's not yet on RDNA4 or Zen5 so it's not a performance upgrade too. It's way better to buy Steam Deck Oled in this price point.
Why don't you use the full 8gb of vram as the extra vram and ram added will help with performance. Compare the ROG Ally X where it should benefit the upgrade, please.
Removing the eGPU port shouldn't be much of an issue because the people using that port are presumably gaming plugged in just as much as using the ROG Ally for mobile gaming, it should be a safe assumption that the ROG Ally X won't see nearly as much desktop use as the v1 ROG Ally.
Glad I didn't buy thr OG ROG Ally given the issues, thia one is an upgrade indeed and I can't wait o get it this December 2024 (ain't one of those who buy immediately given there will be update/iteration later on.
In Europe it costs €900 which is like $1000, so it's way too expensive for now... considering the original one had almost the same price at launch in EU and I got it at a sale recently for $350 😅 The best thing you could do is wait...
This is way better, double the storage and battery, faster charging, way better ergonomics, more powerful, and its only $50 more and it uses less resources because if the lower resolution and you won't even tell the difference on a small screen like that
@@dj4monie I understand but I'm specifically in the use case where a handheld and a eGpu dock can benefit for me due to the form factor and the portability. I don't mind the prince nor playing in ultra settings. I'm aware this is an investment with drawbacks, but there is no alternative for now, when you roam a lot and you don't want to carry a heavy Gaming laptop.
10:30 the OG Ally is set to 4GB VRAM while the Ally X is set to 8GB VRAM. They should both have 8GB of VRAM set for a fair comparison, and leave the differences to the Ally X having faster and more system memory. The same for Cyberpunk at 10:52. Did you run all the tests like this? The graphics drivers are also not the same. The OG Ally is running the official AMD driver, while the Ally X is running the Asus graphics driver, which is older. There's too much inconsistency in your comparison benchmarks.
Hey ETA: My only question is this: Is there any reason you would know why they couldn't up the memory on the Original Ally to 7500 mt/s via firmware update? I ask because I own a few of the smaller Handheld brands like AoKZoe A1 Pro and they did exactly that. They shipped with lower speed ram and updated them later via over the air firmware update.
If that's true, the RAM in those handhelds you mentioned were already capable of that and were probably downlclocked for stability reasons until the companies decided they had a good mass market firmware to distribute. The ROG Ally's RAM is already functionally maxed out. If you want the new speed RAM on the old Ally, you'll have to solder better quality silicon capable of those speeds into it.
@@k3nsh1n4life+1 the ram in those handhelds were underclocked, they just updated it to the speed it was rated at our supposed to have been. I believe the OG Rog Ally can be physically upgraded with 32GB 7500mt ram but it's pretty involved, unless you can get a shop or someone to do it for you.
Honestly with how the Rog ally is constantly on sale this is just not worth it. I have a full sized SSD inside my original Rog ally. Wait for the 2nd Ally
Worst part(s) about the original are thermal management and poor battery life. If either of those aren't an issue than going to get the X doesn't make much sense but seeing as some of you have eGPU's and multiple portable game consoles, both of which make zero sense either, then my reply likely doesn't make sense.
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I'm loving these PC gaming handhelds its just like playing PSP back in the day
Can be even more like the PSP using ppsspp ❤️
@stansmith7445 it's amazing i can now play my old ps2 games on handheld back then i have to play on big tv
14:58 This part is really good to see performance per watt. Apu at 17 Watt is the highest efficiency and to get 3h+ on it is awesome
AMD keeps it's signature efficiency there with performance per watt, however it will have to start improving it as Intel is striking back with Lunar Lake while both r still far from what can be achieved with custom Arm SoCs like those from Apple for example. Only if Apple would have more games and gaming support on their platform, something what they r now building and what should come in the future. All Mx chips r performance per watt beasts getting better and better🦾 Nvidia is planning to come up with something as well together with Mediatek.
apu is great for mobile device
their desktop is just pathetic
they wont ever add more gpu core in desktop for some reason but these mobile device get all of them in smaller form factor
@@El.Duder-inoApple doesn't care for gaming
@@chriswright8074 Not anymore. Maybe u should look around first.
@@chriswright8074 Not anymore. Things have changed since M1.
I'm missing that robot playing and relaxing opening.
So retro
I'm glad they tightened up the thumb sticks. The ally felt way too 'loose'
got my normal ally z1 extreme for 447€ and im nearly always near a power plug, so im happy with that.
That doesn't make it portable do it? You could invest in a PD capable power bank to extend battery life.
Same here. I'll wait till is on sale 3 months from now
The video I have been waitinfg for. You my friend are my go to guy for this type of content.
Waiting for mine. Was happy with my Z1 Extreme and havent touched my steamdeck since I got it.
Facts.. haven't touched my Steam Deck or gaming rig since i got an Ally
I was a console player till the ally came out been on oc ever since. However if you have a good pc the ally is nothing more than a portable way to play your games and should not be your main rig. I'm planning on buying a desktop bc of this.
@coryvallad7578 not my main rig, last pc I made was in 2020 it was beefy at the time. Still a beast now because I used it to play VR games. But I love how I can play my other pc games not limited by Linux. Absolutely love Linux as a os though which is what I use my PI 5 for.
I have a question for you why do you keep the Steamdeck if you never use it you could sell it and get a quick couple hundred bucks
@@coryvallad7578why not just dock it?
I already purchased a steamdeck,loaded it with a bunch of emulators, a bunch of games and it just sits in a closet collecting dust. Glad to see many of you still get excited over these portables and finding value. Great health and Happy gaming to all of you.
@@A2YU09 please give it to me if you don't use it🥲, I'm too poor to afford one
@@A2YU09 sits in your closet why? I am returning my ally x in favor of the steam deck
@@urboijash3955 yeah, I don't play with it much, it just sits there in a closet with all the accessories I bought for it. Sometimes I play with it for an hour or two, but back it goes into the closet not to be played again in days, weeks or even months.
@@urboijash3955 steam deck oled is king in terms of battery and screen, performance yes others beat it but whats the point if the battery is hardly an hour...
@@A2YU09 yes I have bought the original Steamdeck, the OLED Steamdeck, Roy ally z1 extreme, and the PlayStation portal and I have either returned or sold them all. I just cannot get into gaming on these.
Waiting on FedEx😵💫
That Crowdstrike Windows issue is affecting deliveries so it might be delayed a bit
Waiting for Best Buy to open lol
@@MaxrepfitgmBRUH DON’T SAY THAT 😂😂
I already got mine !!! Arrived today😂
I've been wanting a handheld PC for ages. With this battery life, and my interests primarily in retro gaming and emulation, and maybe some Diablo VI and Titan Quest 2, this looks like the one to finally make me pull the trigger. Cheers for the deep dive Mr Prime :D
Got the new armory crate update yesterday. It runs so much smoother now.
It does very much I downloaded it earlier today on my OG Ally. Btw I don't have the Z1 Extreme
Waiting for my preorder to arrive
@@Chubby_Ninja1 when are they going to ship the pre-orders 🥲
@@djyungpro should have been today
So I did indeed almost buy a rog ally when it was new! I’m still waiting until these bad boy hand helds become better! The progress does look promising
would love to see the Ally X with Bazzite, as well as, with an eGPU (also while using Bazzite)
$100 seems very fair for additional 512GB of SSD storage, 8GB of faster RAM, 80Wh battery and a USB4 port.
100$? Like the price difference between the Rog Ally and Rog Ally X? Because where I'm from, the Rog Ally (z1 extreme) is 500$ new, and the rog ally x is 900$. I hope the prices will drop by november for black friday, but more than 200$ isn't worth it between the 2 for me.
I shall be purchasing this soon
even though the screen is 7in? it lacks the immersion for AAA games. i wouldn't get it if i was you, i would wait till they start producing 8.4in screens versions instead
@@draco2xx the 7 inch doesn't bother me
@@draco2xxI agree with that statement but using the ROG ALLY for a year, it hasn’t bother me, but to play PC games on a handheld, 7” is the bare minimum and 8” is the sweet spot.
@@perezcoalten i don't think you've even experienced playing on a 8.4in screen before. i promise you, once you do you'll never go back to play on a 7in screen
@@draco2xx this is a handheld. We don’t need a big @ss screen. 7 is perfect😊
New fav channel? Yup!
Every pc handheld should come with an 80watt battery, god dang
Better than expected!
great review! Good to see that while it's an upgrade it's not a HUGE improvement over the original outside of battery life. A lot of the other fixes like battery and analog controls are simple change outs for a tinkerer which could easily save you $200. I was on the fence on getting the X or an older one and modding it and for my use case, older modded is the way to go.
Man i would love to buy one but my steam deck oled still serves me so well. Love playing indie games on it. I'll wait for the next gen Z2 Extreme before considering an upgrade
Amazing battery life! What a great piece of hardware
We've come a long way from those Hasbro double A battery handhelds. 😲
Finally, a portable gaming system with some battery life. Steamdeck oled and this feel like the only sensible options
Great video as always keep it up 👍
I was going to upgrade from the og ally to this one for that battery update and better grips but after getting the xg mobile 6850m for a good price I'll just wait for the next iteration.
I also got that same XGM. How much did you get it for? I got mine a little after the Ally launch for $600 like new. I was so close to getting the 4090 XGM during prime day for $1,500 but kinda bum that Asus is dropping support for it with the X. If the Ally 2 has it tho which I doubt plus a bigger screen for sure I will get the 4090 XGM tho. Hopefully by then it will only cost around $1,200 or so haha.
@volcalstone I also got it like new as well at around the same price range, I couldn't pass up on the deal and tbh it's been a great experience so far! The 6850m is a beast at 1440p. Honestly it is perplexing for me as well that they opt to not support the xgm on the x but for my use case of my i usually keep it plugged in anyway so I'll just update to the 4090 in a few years if need be or just wait for the rog ally 2!
@@demariogoings4295 the Ally and XGM setup is what I passed on to my daughter now as I recently picked up the Go again. I had it at launch but returned it due to the UI and it wasn't ready for primetime. ACSE on the Ally is perfect if you ask me and it's only getting better soon with the new update that is on the X now. I needed a bigger screen so I had to let go of the Ally. If it had a bigger screen I would still be playing on it.
The Go is nicer for me overall but just like you I'm waiting for the Ally 2 with the Strix Point APU. Hopefully it will have a bigger screen, if not then I guess it will be something else.
I love Asus stuff as I also have a 2022 Flow 16 so that was one of the other reasons why I picked up the XGM to use it on both devices. Of course the gains are bigger on the Ally while my laptop has a 130W 3060 which is around 10-20% less in performance than a 6850M XT. I love AMD for their CPUs but I'm more on the green team when it comes to the GPU. My first choice was the 3080 XGM but those were too expensive at that time. It was more expensive than my X16 Flow laptop alone! 😊
Either way good luck and I can't wait for next year when it comes to handhelds. Btw I barely use my custom 4090 rig anymore since I got back into the handheld game. I just found out that I like more portable stuff overall haha. I will still keep my rig tho as it's a nice show piece haha. I need to put something on my desk right? 😁
It's a miracle he did a comparison between to devices. I never thought this would happen. I wish this would happen more often😂
LMAO RIGHT!
Lets see him face off against the Legion Go please?
Thanks in advance.
@@cameronweston1038 it's got way better performance and battery life, but the graphics and refresh rate are better on the legion
Going to put bazzite on mine
try cachyos instead, bazzite currently has an installer issue where the screen is flipped and cut in half forcing you to need a dock and mouse to install correctly. Also cachyos comes with precompiled optimised linux kernals much newer than bazzite, amoungst many other tweaks. Cachy is based on Arch whereas Bazzite is based on Fedora Blue which is owned by RedHat and the less said about that company the better.
can't wait to see a video on thoroughful emulation testing
If the original Ally can emulate incredibly well, (It does) then the Ally X can as well.
Except for PS4, everything will be super smooth on z1 extreme
@@brightya sure... But I want to see how smooth they run... Specially, PS3, Xbox 360 and the switch
A beast
The battery is the biggest update. If you didn’t have an issue with the OG then no need to upgrade. You don’t get meaningful changes otherwise. $900 is a bit much and adding OLED would cost more.
It's $800.
@@sonichedgehog36 depends on where you live and it’s still not worth in the US.
@@sonichedgehog36taxes? Its basically 900
That SDcard location though still on top.
I'm loving mine so far! I have the original one!
Please do a egpu video with benchmarks for the rog ally x
4:40 “LDPPR5X” 🤣
Wonder what kind of deals will be for this on Black Friday ?
The battery life us a lot better. Comparable to the oled.
The rma process is fine in the uk if you buy froma normal store like currys.
Man ETA, I was hoping to see the usual racing games in your review. Since this device does very well with console emulation, rGT4 or Forza Horizon should run fully speed in performance mode. Crazy for a handheld to do that and still have more than reasonable battery life.
should also mention how hot is it?
does it burn your hand? in turbo?
Watching people review something I can’t own is not my thing anymore. From PCs to handhelds and more. I’m not into it anymore. Rich people man.
Cool story bro. Why can't you?
It would be awesome to see a video showing the performance of the Ally X when allocating different amounts of RAM to the VRAM! Also a video utilizing eGPUs, especially now that this has a thunderbolt port instead of the XG mobile one. Great video by the way! I’ve been waiting for the X to come out so I can get your perspective and experience with this before I buy 🫡🤝
Can you test out the ROG Gaming NUC next to see if Manjaro Linux works, especially with the NVIDIA drivers?
Been waiting for your video thank you
Some people are upset about the price and comparisons to the Deck.
The Deck is a system to move Emulators and Indies mainly. The Rog moves everything.
Then about the price... Dude, they are giving you Double on almost everything... Battery, Ram, Storage...
Do you also want the processor?? Well, nothing, €1200 then. Come go...
They are raising the price by double that of almost everything, don't complain, it is VERY worth it just for €300 more.
+50% RAM.
+100% Battery.
+100% Storage.
+ Hardware, Sound, Cooling and Ergonomics improvements.
For €300 more... Try to do it yourself in your first version and see how much you get...
Yeah half the people think that Oled is a selling point yet they have never owned an oled device and the other half are Deck simps, what do you expect 😅
hopefully the next revision is a little smaller, same screen size but smaller overall. battery could be something in between the two rog ally devices
El 26 me llega esta consola. Menos mal que la reservé.
Gracias por los vídeos que haces. ❤
Que tal esta?
@@skywalker3760 pues la vdd muy bien. La recomiendo, con el único juego que tengo problemas” es con el DD2. De resto juego a unos 19W o 21W y como la batería es de 80W pues estoy jugando cerca de unas 3 horas tranquilamente.
Honestly the next computer I buy Ill be one of these with an EGPU. Can you run VR games with a gpu?
Glad I waited
I have a lenovo legion go and a steam deck and the only problem i have with my legion go is how i hold a controller i play with my hands in a double claw position and the legion go is not a handheld made for me its blocky and big but the steam deck has one of the best controller layouts for how i play i love my steam deck even tho its weaker i just wish there was something i can use as hard as my legion go i use that thing for tuning my car and actually is a productivity item and the rog ally seems like a trade off i can only play claw unless i use my index finger for the left joystick am pretty used to but i dont enjoy playing like that for a long period of time hopefully someone comes up with a steam deck layout but with the internals of this so i can play in peace but also use it as a productivity hog and work and for hobbies
Got mine on order from best buy
2:20 hours with cyberpunk is actually really good I want one now if only that screen was OLED
I'm halfway through the review but I'm going to go ahead and predict it will be another Windows handheld review without showing suspend/resume with several games.
Should be no different than a laptop.
Windows is so bad. 😊
They make a steamdeck with more power and 32gigs of ram I'm buying it, but the Ally X has got me thinking instead of a onexplayer.
I want to take it but it pisses me off to have to transfer my 2 TB from my Z1 extreme. I don't have the motivation, I prefer to wait for the Rog Ally 2.
If u already own a Ally z1 extreme, it is really not worth the upgrade. Just wait for Ally 2 so you dont kick yourself after a year or two.
Been waiting for this, great review! I’d really like to see it go against the Legion Go
none of windows handheld can compete this year, maybe legion go has a larger screen, but 1600p is overkilll for the poor chip and its 16:10 meaning lots of indie and japanese games will leave you 2 black bars on top and bottom with that ips glow to your eyes
@@fourtii8707 I hear you appreciate it
@fourtii8707 bro 99% of legion go users never use 1600p to play games. And in my opinion Lego and steam deck oled is still better than ally x
@@OleksiiK21 yeah you could argue steam deck oled has oled and better price and the os is incredible, in fact I own one for more than 6months now. But in what way is legion go better than ally x lol? does it have better battery life? is it lighter? is the screen native landscape with vrr support? does it have a better frontend app? does it have better button layout like a true xbox controller? or does it have better cooling & fan noise? or does it have more and faster ram?
Been seeing reviews on best buy that some people have been having it not turn on at all even with it plugged in someone had the right trigger completely stop working after 30 mins but mostly the bad reviews were about how the battery will not hold a charge at all or it just won't turn on so take that as you will
Really tough to compete with steamdeck on pricing. Ally X is clearly better, but is it $150-250 better?
You should have upped the vram a litte to see what kind of performance boost that would give the games. Realistically you dont need 16 gb for the OS especially if dont have multiple tabs and apps open at once. I would have bumped it up to 12 and then left 12 for the OS plenty for both.....
Only after watching this I realized the Ally x reminds me of the Sega Game gear. I guess it's good progress after 30 years considering this is a portable and powerful x86 computer-dream come true for pocketable PC. As a gaming device, i feel the progress a bit sluggish.
The $800 asking price is a bit steep considering the only huge upgrade is the RAM. I guess next AMD APU and handhelds will cost more??
imagine if these things have touchscreen to type on or even a qwerty slide out or on the back
its literally a full portable pc
they do have a touch screen
It is a touchscreen lol
Oh wow, one of my dreams is to have it😥
Ik ppl talk bad about the lil cardboard stands, but honestly, its better than nothing
The amount of times i have needed a stand for my deck and i have to use my phone stand all wobbly is crazy lol
At least this one stands it up firmly and if u take care of it, it shouldnt rip or break
Will the Ally X fit in the same travel case as the OG Ally?
probably yes
I heard it doesn’t on some cases
@@OMGdidyouJuStSeeDAT Won't fit in the ROG Ally travel case? I just got mine two months ago but I have just the Z1 not the Extreme.
Great video bro. Do the battery benchmark agains Steam Deck OLED. I'm still thinking wich one to buy
If they're running at the same settings, the ally x gets like an hour more battery life over the SD oled.
It’s depends on what kinda gamer you are if u have a large steam catalog and want a console experience go with the steam deck oled and thank me later
The thing is, why get this when Strix Point handhelds will be appearing in a few weeks?
Laptops will be 1st and then AMD will have to customize a chip for handheld's so it will be late next year.
@@malcaniscsm5184 next year
@malcaniscsm5184 Exactly why Asus had to release this late cycle refresh right now. It'll be discounted soon enough.
There isn't any handhelds at this time. They will probably be a few maybe at CES. If not it will be mid-year instead of either showing it for the first time or it being available. So at the earliest another year from now.
OneXPlayer will have a strix point out in a few months I'm willing to bet. They already have an 8840u X1 with a 10.9" VRR screen and 32g ram.
Does the memory assigned to the GPU really make a difference?
You should add testing minecraft with the best shaders and high render distance to these videos
I'm getting mine tomorrow I can update how it went if you're interested!
The analog sticks seem to be smaller than the regular ones on the PS5 and Xbox controllers. I don't like the idea of the controllers being fixed to the screen; if you have any problems with the analogs, it will be complicated to fix.
Minor refresh if you own the og ally. Waiting to see if the microSD card reader issue is fixed.
It has been, have you been lost the last couple months?
@@n64slayer fixed on the ally x? It isn't official out yet, where from the future are you from? 🤔 😂
As a Radeon user. These handhelds may overtake the laptop market- long as the joysticks and buttons don’t wear out prematurely like a cheapo Sony controller, AFMF2 with frame gen is a game changer for these. Holy crap. It’s amazing what software has been able to do in helping out older hardware have a longer life span. 42 fps on 2077? It’s going to be a much higher number with frame generation through the drivers (implementation from cdpr is hot garbage lol) I want one of these. Idk about ASUS though I’m scared of ASUS trying to screw me over in the event I have to send it back to them.
I just want this with an oled.
I beg to differ the bigger back button is more comfortable and you can rest your fingers while holding the ally.
If you dont have one, why even speak on it? lol
No its not do you even have one? 😂
the normal ally feels like shit to hold. I have had one since it released and I never feel comfortable holding it.
@@Peraliq after having the new one, it is a understatement on how much more comfortable the ally x is, huge improvement.
I would love to see a test on mmorpg, such as FF14 (or Wow) , just to see how it handle battery life with this kind of games
Is there a hard disk that emulates old and new games in a size of 500g that you recommend purchasing through the Aliexpress application?
The screen aspect ratio is my issue. Also the size of the screen.
@@arzayus84 yep oled wins
They should have increased the size for sure
2:15 They should not upgrade, it's not something worth spending that much more money into a company that can't even provide proper warranty support. And it's not yet on RDNA4 or Zen5 so it's not a performance upgrade too. It's way better to buy Steam Deck Oled in this price point.
Why don't you use the full 8gb of vram as the extra vram and ram added will help with performance. Compare the ROG Ally X where it should benefit the upgrade, please.
Any thoughts on a good mobile hotspot for this?
Removing the eGPU port shouldn't be much of an issue because the people using that port are presumably gaming plugged in just as much as using the ROG Ally for mobile gaming, it should be a safe assumption that the ROG Ally X won't see nearly as much desktop use as the v1 ROG Ally.
With lcd 7.0 screen it's just all z1 just with bigger ram.and bettery unlike steam deck oled wasn't just different ram and screen
I’ll wait for the ally 2 for the same price.
i am interested to see how it fairs once valve makes a rog ally compatible version of steamos.
Massive L for us who preordered from JB HiFi in Western Australia, came in to pick up mine today but was told that they dont have the units on hand.
Can you use an console controller on it? Or is it just certain controllers that work with it
Glad I didn't buy thr OG ROG Ally given the issues, thia one is an upgrade indeed and I can't wait o get it this December 2024 (ain't one of those who buy immediately given there will be update/iteration later on.
What makes this stand out over a Steam Deck? Quite curious because I want to compare and snag something but I am conflicted.
That you can actually play AAA titles with decent fps unlike deck
Bigger battery, more ram, newer cpu, bigger screen with vrr. Run on window, which can bgood or bad
@@bskiy you still can’t play Returnal at a playable framerate even on this
@@brandon_nopeI don't think anyone wants to play that game let alone on a handheld
In Europe it costs €900 which is like $1000, so it's way too expensive for now... considering the original one had almost the same price at launch in EU and I got it at a sale recently for $350 😅
The best thing you could do is wait...
11:07 vram on both the allys are different from 4gb and 8gb so not much of a fair comparison
Good video
Thanks
Its not worth it for existing Ally Z1E owners to upgrade to the Ally X, waiting for next gen SOCs for this form factor
Should I buy this or the Lenovo Legion Go?
This is way better, double the storage and battery, faster charging, way better ergonomics, more powerful, and its only $50 more and it uses less resources because if the lower resolution and you won't even tell the difference on a small screen like that
I was waiting for this test ! What kind of eGPU you would recommended for docked / couch gaming session on a 4k TV ? Thank you !
Doesn't improve game play enough to justify the investment. But talking to gamers is similar to talking to Black women, difficult...
he made a video with an eGPU that gave a huge boost to performance that used the usb c 4.0 port it was the ONEXGPU
@@dj4monie I understand but I'm specifically in the use case where a handheld and a eGpu dock can benefit for me due to the form factor and the portability. I don't mind the prince nor playing in ultra settings. I'm aware this is an investment with drawbacks, but there is no alternative for now, when you roam a lot and you don't want to carry a heavy Gaming laptop.
10:30 the OG Ally is set to 4GB VRAM while the Ally X is set to 8GB VRAM. They should both have 8GB of VRAM set for a fair comparison, and leave the differences to the Ally X having faster and more system memory. The same for Cyberpunk at 10:52. Did you run all the tests like this?
The graphics drivers are also not the same. The OG Ally is running the official AMD driver, while the Ally X is running the Asus graphics driver, which is older.
There's too much inconsistency in your comparison benchmarks.
im waiting on a full egpu review to pull the trigger, if can hold 80-90 frames with a egpu at 1440 would be awesome!
That's kinda poop ngl just buy a desktop tbh
@@n64slayer i dont need a desktop boy! but i understand what u saying
I swear we all have the same little green plant. 😂
No one besides phaux has talked about the vram with gaming and had it set to 8gv when testing games
Gotta put Bazzite on it
Hey ETA: My only question is this: Is there any reason you would know why they couldn't up the memory on the Original Ally to 7500 mt/s via firmware update? I ask because I own a few of the smaller Handheld brands like AoKZoe A1 Pro and they did exactly that. They shipped with lower speed ram and updated them later via over the air firmware update.
If that's true, the RAM in those handhelds you mentioned were already capable of that and were probably downlclocked for stability reasons until the companies decided they had a good mass market firmware to distribute. The ROG Ally's RAM is already functionally maxed out. If you want the new speed RAM on the old Ally, you'll have to solder better quality silicon capable of those speeds into it.
@@k3nsh1n4life+1 the ram in those handhelds were underclocked, they just updated it to the speed it was rated at our supposed to have been. I believe the OG Rog Ally can be physically upgraded with 32GB 7500mt ram but it's pretty involved, unless you can get a shop or someone to do it for you.
Honestly with how the Rog ally is constantly on sale this is just not worth it. I have a full sized SSD inside my original Rog ally. Wait for the 2nd Ally
I'm guessing the ROG Ally X will also have heavy sales in the future too
Worst part(s) about the original are thermal management and poor battery life. If either of those aren't an issue than going to get the X doesn't make much sense but seeing as some of you have eGPU's and multiple portable game consoles, both of which make zero sense either, then my reply likely doesn't make sense.
@@Patrick-y4d1z by that time the ally 2 will be out
@@dj4monie not to me. I play mine plugged in on the sofa and have had 0 thermal issues