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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ส.ค. 2024
- In this video we take a closer look at the latter stages of flight as I teach you how to land the Boeing 747-8i in Microsoft Flight Simulator. We cover the top of descent without using VNAV, FMS setup, managing your speed and touching down the aircraft in the correct location.
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0:00 - Introduction
0:46 - Familiarisation
1:53 - FMS Setup
5:56 - Autopilot Setup
5:57 - Descent
6:39 - Autopilot Adjustment
8:23 - Descent
9:05 - Approach Setup
10:57 - Descent
11:40 - Below 10,000
14:45 - Localiser
15:24 - Altimeter
15:40 - Approach Mode
17:13 - Gear Down & Short Final
19:30 - Autopilot Disengage
20:36 - Touchdown
21:05 - Exit Runway & Cleanup
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Great tutorial! Something to keep in mind is that the flap limit is 20 if the landing gear is up. The gear is usually lowered at 2500' and flap 20 is set. Then once the gear is down (should say "down" in green text on the EICAS) set approach flap setting and reduce speed to VREF + 5. Also, once the glideslope is captured, the altitude should be set to the Missed Approach altitude. Keep it up!
After gear down and speed lowered flap should be 30
Are you a pilot??
@@rihabandraaifastoyreviewerchan Yup but i guess it also depends on what the conditions are. Sometimes it could be 25. Idk for Airbus tho
@@Kamrankhan23333 No i'm just partially aware of the procedures cause i use PMDG on P3DV4. Btw feel free to correct me if I'm wrong
@@ruhaan6216 Can you help me? I've got mfs2020 recently but...... Whenever I turn on AP, the plane specially the a320 doesn't follow the flight plan or that green line and it frustrates me a lot... So if you can help what I am doing wrong actually ???
Great video! I'm currently on a 10h flight, now I know how to get it down. Don't tell the passengers we departed without knowing how to land.
Glad you found this helpful, so long the passengers don't notice! 😉
You've taught me more in the two videos that I've seen of yours than the actual game taught me. GREAT content! You earned yourself another sub, brother.
Glad you've gotten the hang of things! With any flight simulator it takes practice, but eventually you'll get there.
I'll re-watch this a few times before re-trying to land this beast. Great tutorial! Many thanks!
Glad to hear it, enjoy the study!
Great tutorial!! Will definitely try some of the new tricks I've seen for a cleaner and smoother landing!
So glad you posted this. Been looking for a video like this.
15:41 Another thing you can do to prevent the aircraft doing that sharp pullup is just engaging APP mode once the diamond hits the circle (above or below) closest to the middle
Wow! Divided, explained, directly. Thank so much!!! Wonderfull
Really helpful as now know how to activate the star and ils keep it up
Well done Drawyah,very informative content,keep the great works coming brother.
Great to watch, most of it I admit went over my head.
Hey there, drawyah here
Yes! Thanks to your vids Drawyah I successfully flew from Melbourne to Sydney real time and weather with an ILS auto land. Visibility was 100mtrs so I couldn’t see the runway until just before the flare. Now the world is my oyster! Also on Xbox and did it all with the controller, gotta wait for Xmas for my mouse and keyboard lol make it a lot easier
I'm glad you found this helpful, I wish you many happy virtual hours!
Really ? with an Autoland ! Doesn't Drawyah say right at the start that the 747-8 can't even do Vnav yet + can't follow the glide slope down on AP and this needs to be done manually ? am I missing something here lol
The default aircraft can do an ILS approach, but not an autoland. Your last few seconds of flight to touchdown will need to be done manually.
Thanx one more time, Drawyah!
Thanks so much for these - great job
Always happy to help!
FINALLY got my first full flight down ! Montreal CYUL to New York KJFK was smooth and everything worked a good 2h well spent
Nice one, glad the tutorial helped!
@@Drawyah I saw a lot of your videos you are really good and explains in a way that nobody ever did for me keep it up you deserve your support !
Very good tutorial. Even though Salty fixes some VNAV stuff, it seems easier at times to just use the selected mode to manage VS and IAS. Thanks for the easy to understand and concise tutorial sir!
Glad you found the tutorial helpful! I also agree on the VNAV control of Salty, some work needs to be done to perfect it, descending on V/S is handy.
I've been flying the PMDG 747/400/8 since 2008 😁
Thanks so much, you made me addicted!
Glad to hear it, I guess! 😅
You are a great man thank you
i landed the boeing on my first try!! im so damn happy. Awesome video buddy.
Glad to hear it, happy flying!
You are absolutely going to be the number one FS2020 TH-camr. Period.
True
I'm a new aviation enthusiast and your video helped! I hope my first intercontinental flight with the 747, Dublin to JFK will land safely and successfully :)
Good luck with it! 🙌
Thank you so so much oh my gosh thanks man I mastered it now I can’t believe this
Glad to hear, enjoy flying!
Great piloting. Thank you
I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
Great video! :p
Thank you very much bruv..
Great job Drawyah.....
I was hoping to watch your landing from the outside view....
Anyway you're the best
Always land from the cockpit, never external.
great!!!!
I did three almost perfect landings in this sim, was thinking, nothing to it - till on the fourth try I belly flopped it into the grass a thousand feet short of the runway. So yeah, for real world I guess I'll take one of them there high priced, fancy booked learned pilot guys whose score is a lot higher than 75 percent.
thank you
Nice! 👍
Damn... I thought a video got uploaded twice... This and the 787 one...😅😅
Thing is i pilotted the boeing for first time in mfs2020, got from timisoara to craiova in romania but crashed because i did my descent too late and fast!
@drawyah - Have you tried using the FLCH mode for both 747 and 787 for descent?
Thank you sir ! will take your valuable less and try not to crash this beast.
Good luck with it!
Great tutorial, the AP & APP are really bugged in this plane! When I try APP to capture the GS the plane follows the GS altitude for say 4 seconds then stays at the same altitude and have to control it manually, tired of this plane. The 787 is way better.
I think that problem has been fixed now in the later builds i.e. 1.9.5
I'm strugging to even get the AP to keep this plane level (with VNAV turned off) using the alt and speed settings. Only airliner that is currently usable is the 787 which I don't have much trouble with
Sometimes you will need to press the buttons multiple times
@@Kiyodio I've tried that, but the plane just bobs up and down :(
@@symol30872 Youre probably at an inefficient altitude. If youre really heavy and trying to go higher the AP just isnt going to cut it.
Kiyo Senpai You. Ay need to input your actual center of gravity, like in real 747s. This automatically will set your elevator trim to help keep a level flight.
Hey can someone explain what vnav and lnav do and when you have to turn them on? I'm really confused
lol the first 20 secs of this video answered my question as to why my plane is trying to approach at 20,000 feet even with vnav on
Glad that helped you out! 😅
So we should disable auto-throttle and auto pilot at around 1000 ft during an ILS approach? When I tried to use the auto pilot below 1000 ft, the plane took a big dive and fell way below the glide slope. I had to manually increase throttle and nose up to get back to the glide slope.
Thanks for this!
Smooth touchdown first try.
Fantastic! ✈️
Fantastic video. Watched it again (closely) after face-planting into Orlando to see what I did wrong. VERY informative. One question though, when setting up your landing variables, how does one know that when the MCDU says 260 knots that you should subtract 100 from it when factoring in your landing airspeed? Is that just a 747 thing?
Just a 747 thing, it doesn't calculate speeds properly.
@@Drawyah yeah its supposed to be a 160 kts landing speed while the 747 puts it at 260 which is ridiculous but an update is coming . Each plane has its landing speed !
hey there drawyah here
Does anyone know how to reverse throttle using a controller? On the TBM930 it goes into reverse if i keep decreasing throttle but on the 747 it just stays at idle.
Hey i got a question before landing my whole cockpit turned off like i couldn’t see anything everything was dark and bc of that I couldn’t land good can u help me??
Hi, when i press DEP/ARR button, it only shows departures airport, i can not clic on arrivals, it does not appear on the screen. How can i fix that? Thank you
Great tutorial, nice to watch.
Which version of FS you have I have much better spec on my pc but details looks better on your videos.
I was just thinking if more expensive version gives you better graffic etc
I fly the Premium Deluxe version of MSFS.
Is vnav working for this now? I had both enabled.. i dont know what vnav is supposed to do though
Nice buddy. Subscribed. Question, how do you get the flight director to respond? My plane doesnt do anything when I make changes to speed, altitude, or anything else. First step is make the adjustments then engage autopilot. Then, while auto pilot is on, I should be able to make modifications for the plane to respond automatically like you showcased in the video. Am I missing anything? Another question, I cannot seem to have that waypoint to the airport on my instrument (the purple line). Is there something I need to do to have it?
Thank you!
So long your VNAV and LNAV are active, the flight director will follow through. Admittedly it's something I've missed a couple of times myself!
I can't get the ILS display to turn on. Is there some button i need to push or is it supposed to turn on by itself?
Excellent video as usual, but for the 747, isn't it supposed to be three white one red on the PAPI?
Yeah it is
Great video!! I have a question I hope you can answer. How do you change the tilt of the weather radar? Mine is always pointing towards the ground.
Tilt cannot be adjusted yet, but there is a dial next to the switch.
Once Again a superb video. I could never switch back from Mach to Knots in any of the three airlines(787,747 and Neo). It always stayed in mach. What am I doing wrong? Is it in one of those settings? Thanks a lot.
It's a bug. Happens to me as well.
I'm not entirely convinced that you're not an AI voice-over. ;)
When departing the flight director is not following the FMC Route (LNAV is activated) while flying manually. Does anyone has the same problem?
What are the conors on your PFD?
How did you tern on the diamond Ils
can you post the calculations you made when you descended from 350 on 250 knots, I'd really appreciate it
He said, I think, rule of thumb is that if you are at 250 KT and descending at 2000 ft/min you should expect to drop 30,000 feet in 80 miles. I find that starting a little further out from the final approach fix works better, perhaps 150 miles, as the 747 is usually (in real life) descended with a clean (i.e. no flaps) glide down with throttles near idle, and that takes me longer. I'm not a pilot just a trawler for this stuff through the internet. Happy to be corrected. Do real pilots use spoilers so much?
Nice video. Thanks. Anyway there is one question from me. Was the ILS frequency tuned automaticaly when he chosed the ILS 04 at FMC or how? I am used to fly B738 and the frequency must be tuned manually but here at B747 I can find only com radio.
The 748 automatically tunes frequency when you select a runway in the FMS.
the Papi is incorrect on 747 as the cockpit is high
The 747 is a complete mess in this sim. The 787 is a little better, but still a big let down.
Did 2 successfull flights in the 747 tonight 1h30 each didnt have a single problem the only thing I noticed was the Vs vertical speed you have to hit it 2 or 3 times before it works other than that not too bad there is missing features but not to bad
@@themetalicious7195 yeah AP in the 747 is very bugged. Sometime I need to disable AP and turn it back on, or double push every button - nav, fc, Vs, alt, whatever was on. Especially Vs and fc needs double bush to get activated. Really bugged.
@@Skynet151 damn I guess I'm lucky so far people seem to have a lot of issues with it
you guys must have gotten a model built on a Friday. I haven't had any problems with my 747 (though I only started after the fourth update, so that might be it)
The thing that i noticed well in my case at least I'm so used to the pmdg 747 flight model in p3d the fs2020 for some reason seems really sluggish extremely sluggish so it might be me still having to get used to a more realistic flight model or it might be wrong could anyone let me know?.
Nice tutorial.
These default planes are extremely disappointing though. Funny controls, floaty, and let me not get started with that autopilot!
I have watched this tutorial several times, hoping to figure out how to "arm" the spoilers to deploy on landing. Adjusting the auto-brake setting is applicable to the wheels as I understand. I am trying to find the equivalent of SHIFT + / in FSX. Has anyone figured out how to do that? MSFS just provides for the full deployment via the NUM /.
I think you can just manually go through all of the Auto Brake detents with your Mouse/Pointer etc.
Drawyah can you possibly do an updated Dec 2020 version of this, pretty please?
The 747 flies exactly the same now as it did then. Nothing to change.
The Vnav works for me but the ap doesn’t stay lvl at crz altitude in 747. Vnav only works in the 747 from what I’ve researched
The VNAV works in the 787, not 747. At least that's how it goes for me.
Hey Drawyah, I had a question in regards to landing ILS. I completely understand how to set it up, but when in tune in to ATC in game, it seems to completely mess it up. Is it possible if you can do one with the in game ATC? Or is the ATC just useless in the game and is better to not use it when using this approach?
In game atc at the moment isn't working correctly for that. I feel like it's on crack half the time. It'll ask you to go from fl300 to 3000 ft.
Drawyah, have you done a full flight video at all by chance where you go thru the flight route and there is either no SID or STAR in place on the route id, and you give an example of how to obtain then and know which one to use via ATC or whatever means?
All of my streams with active ATC go through the complete clearance procedure.
@@Drawyah Sounds good! Thanks for the recent responses. I'll see ya over on Twitch on Saturday if you are streaming then.
Any idea of what could have happened on my first 747 landing approche? I told the plane to descend to FL20 and then past that it went really weird. Like putting in 100% trim up and going vertical stalling and then falling down going too fast. So shortly after I just disarmed everything and manually landed the plane on the runway which ended up in a really hard landing since it was the first one in an airliner in the first sim i play on the PC..
Can the AP get messed up if you do a lot of active pause? it seems like the plane is standing still but stuff like speed can chase despite the aircraft actually not moving
Kinda late but my recommendation is that you dont use active pause because its super bugged, thats why she probably used 100 trim setting, its weird
GOD I WISH I KNEW THIS BEFORE I DID THE CHALLENGE TO CHANGI.
Who was teh dev who decided the best way to set up the landing challenge with ILS was to leave the ILS unconfigured and not shown on the PFD? its 1/8th mi visibility.
Configuring the approach and letting the aircraft guide you in, it's a whole different experience as all you need to manage is the touchdown. JFK approach? Completed it m8. 😁
Love your tutorials! I learned the hard way that VNAV doesn't work in msfs.
However I haven't figured out how to fly direct/skip to a waypoint in the flight plan from a manually entered waypoint or a waypont in a SID/STAR.
VNAV works with some aircraft. I use VNAV for the TBM-930 all the time and it works fantastically. I wish it worked for the planes that could really use it though lol.
Weird never knew u had to run on the APU after landing. I landed the 747 the other day and as soon as I landed all the engine cut out. I had 10% fuel left so maybe that’s the cut off for the engine but I couldn’t restart them they would idle at 2.4 then die out
There is a gap between shutting off the engines and connecting to ground power as crew will not move when the engines are running. APU endures systems stay active during this gap.
Very helpful, thank you. how does this combine with a pre set IFR flight plan ?
Yep! So long you have a STAR and Runway to select, all will work a charm.
@@Drawyah Thanks! llooking forward to actually landing next time
2:59 where can u find the piece of info in your Simbrief? Can't seem to find it, while it's crucial for your Stars, waypoints and approach etc.
Second page towards the top, you can view the routing.
5:21 but let’s say I was on VATSIM; ATC would tell me ‘Descend via ____ arrival’. That’s when I would dataset my decent, right?
Yep! Ideally you would have the approach you're expecting configured so that you have an accurate ToD, but as soon as ATC assigns you an approach, you can programme what they have given you.
First I turn on the LOC, the plane start align with the runway. When it aligned I and the glide slope indicator at the center I turn on APP so the LOC is off and it starts to have deviation with the runway, not align anymore. Why the LOC and APP can't be turn on at the same time ?
Localiser only adjusts your heading. Approach mode manages both LOC + ALT.
Hey Does the VNAV work for the 747 ?
Also VNAV only works for climbing not descending right ?
VNAV is improving in MSFS, but not yet perfect. It can manage some decent, but best still to use V/S where possible.
Is this game broken i do what it asks and i fail lol take off hold a i do that and take yet still prompts me to hold a then when i land i have the landing gear out and i crash as it gives me a landing gear warning 😅
Mine catches the horizontal diamond but totally neglects the vertical one. When it is in the middle i click APP but it just stays on the same altitude. Doesn't happen with the airbus
That is a glitch. It was fixed in the update yesterday. I've flown thousands of ILS approaches in real life and it works the same every time. In FS2020 it only worked correctly for two weeks, then messed up, and then was fixed in the last patch update.
at 4:55, when you set the vertical speed in minus by pressing the vs button.. how do I do that? I keep ending up in plus
Dial the knob in the descending direction toward zero and beyond (to negative values).
hi, how to make a DIRECT?
Is it not possible to enter wind speed/direction and QNH in the FMS, like on the A320?
The 747 having big trouble keeping the glidescope :/
Not at this stage, no.
as a new person to flight sims, can i just play the game with out doing all those turing nobs? i just want to fly around
Looks quite hard to land the 747 I thought it would be a bit easier but thanks for this tutorial
The 747 is a difficult plane to land as unlike single-deck planes or the A380, you're sitting in the upper deck and therefore sitting above the nose, not inside it.
I am able to land my boeing but then the game decide to go full throttle when on touch down. How do i stop the engines from going full power?
Make sure that your autothrottle is turned off, sounds like you've left it on to a certain speed, and so when you apply brakes it counters it with throttle!
My plane doesn’t seem to want to level out. It keeps bouncing in the air not allowing the plane to stay stable. I’ve tried using the HOLD button but nothing. It either plummets to the group or just bounces
Adjust the trim of the aircraft up and down, force it to stabalise.
The diamonds never appear whenever I'm doing the ILS landing so I can get to the run way. I have the runway and flight path set. What am I doing wrong?
Make sure you have selected and ILS approach and not a VOR/DME.
I can't get it to slow down enough, I've even had the autopilot increase the throttle when it was already going too fast. It feels like I'm fighting against the autopilot.
Use the spoilers to help. In the 747 they are a massive boost to slowing down.
@@Drawyah I did try that, but the auto throttle keeps accelerating. I did miss some of the things you put in the mcdu, I'll see if that fixes the issue. Thanks for the reply!
Do you also play Kerbal Space Program? You sound exactly same as one KSP youtuber!
I do in my own time, but never on this channel. I am however looking closely at KSP 2 and potentially will show it here!
Hey can I ask how can you get the 747 to fly so straight all I get with it with LNAV enabled is it wallowing from side to side and it never stays on track....I am just asking I have even copied your way of flying it and it STILL wallows around never staying on track! also it has major trim issues too!
Same thing happens to me as well, definitely a bug which is being worked on. No issues with the 787 so I've been using that for all my flights
@@symol30872 Yeah I hope it gets fixed soon, I am planning on using it for the Frequent Flier Miles achievement and I am definitely NOT using the A320 for that.....
Most planes drift to one direction when not steered its just the way physics work
@@A5tr0101 I know that but still, when you have an aircraft that wont stay on course even in 0 KT wind you have to question yourself and the trim system is borked as well....the 747 is buggy and I have since reported it to Asobo for a patch....
can somebody explain to me why if in the FMS says VREF at 30 degrees flap is 260, why he is approaching at 160kts?
Check your weights, you could be rather heavy.
helpful vid. can you also explain how i must program an approach while i'm close to the airport? when i activate it the plane turns around to the waypoint i already passed. very anoying. with the a320n i can clear the route with programming a direct waypoint to the airport and then the runway. can find it in the 747. thanks and keep up the good work.
To fly direct in a Boeing aircraft, you need to be in the LEGS page. Select the waypoint you want to fly to, then 'paste' it at the top. This will replace all waypoints before it.
@@Drawyah thanks! I'm gonna try and will let you know. Have a great weekend.
It does change the route but it remains yellow after i execute the new route. Bug?
How do you manipulate the altitude autopilot knob by 1000 ft at a time?
Scrolling a different portion of the knob goes from increments of 100 to increments of 1,000.
I am not a pilot, not and aviation student or professional of the area. I just find planes cool and I tried this game. I've been trying to land this airplane on Beijing for a few days and I simply can't. The biggest problem is the landing gear that never comes down. This is making me mad lol so mad that I need this tutorial video to help me.
Landing gear not coming down? Usually means you're coming in too fast. Slow down much earlier.
Really struggling with 747. I can never seem to slow it down. I was trying to get it down to 160 for my landing, and it just stays at 230ish no matter what i do. I tried turning off auto throttle next to thrusters etc. I’m a but stumped with it now.
Sounds like your decent rate is too high. Try to not pitch the nose down and use speed breaks where necessary to assist with slowdown!
what was the math for the rule of thumb for the decent/distant measurement?
Take your crushing attitude so 39000ft so do 39 x3 +12 and what ever that number is is how many nautical miles you wanna start descending at
Why arent you using minimums?
Can I like this video twice?
On two accounts, I guess? 😅
How do you arm speedbreak? I try to arm it but it does not work.
Move the speed break lever to the 'arm' position.
My auto trim goes up to 100 with full flaps when approaching so i cant control my joystick at this time im manually decreasing trim. Is thhere any solution for this? Do i need to set flaps to not full like we do in a320?
Landing flaps in the 747 is 25° or 30° depending on situation. I've personally not had any control issues regardless of where flaps are.
@@Drawyah Thanks for your answer
I know everything about aircraft but I do not know how to set the fms before landing and take off
So you don't know everything. 😅
I've covered all flight processes on the 747 across two tutorials.
@@Drawyah i know everything about takeoff approach and landing but I don't how to set the fms
Anyways I'm going to buy a real 747-400 and refurbish it I have selected saudi airlines 16 year old aircraft (when retiring). Now 19. Year
least used aircraft other junkyard aircraft are severely structural damage , .this is the the best .flight sv 789 ( on the fleet)