Why the Ferrari 512 BBi is a piece of history.
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- Ferrari’s has always tried to put their racing technology into their production cars. In the early 1970s, the flat 12 “Boxer” technology used in the early 1970s Ferrari Formula One and Ferrari 312 PB Sports racers found its way into Ferrari’s flagship 12-cylinder sports cars, the 365 GT4 BB (“Berlinetta Boxer”) and the 365's successor, the 512 BB/BBi.
The Ferrari 512 BBi also commonly referred to as the Ferrari Boxer due to its flat-12 Boxer-style or flat V-12 engine. During10-year production run of the 512 BBi there were 3 variations. While all three models may look similar they were indeed very different from each other in numerous ways. The Ferrari boxer family was first introduced in 1973 with the 365 GT4/BB, standing for Berlinetta Boxer, it was a successor to our personal favorite car the Ferrari Daytona. in 1976, the Ferrari 512 BB was born, based off the 365 BB. It received numerous upgrades, including a wider rear track, a lower front air dam, a wider, longer body, NACA ducting for the rear brakes and a slightly lengthened tail section. The final version of the Ferrari Boxer family was the Ferrari 512 BBi which was introduced in 1983. The "i" in the name indicates that the model was now fuel injected.
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It's not a Boxer, the real name is ''Berlinetta Bialbero'' (twin cam in Italian). Unlike a Porsche or Subaru engine (Boxer), where the opposed pistons have separate crankpins, the ferrari flat 12 have opposed pistons that share the same crankpins like the 60° v12s, so when one piston is up, the opposed one is down.
BB is Berlinetta Boxer, look up the brochures and owners manuals
Classic Ferrari, fast for the time, but very slow for today. The 930 3.3 turbo at that time would destroy this in performance, with only 300hp.
I didn't know the Brigitte Bardot nickname Colleen❗👌😊 Nice narrative ❗👌
My favorite car growing up, and still looks good today.
Absolutely same for me.
Mine too… At the time I always thought the Countach was cool like everyone else did, but this was my favorite. Much more elegant and less over the top ridiculous.
Love for ferrari started from this car. I was born in 86 remember had a matchbox 512bb green. Rest is history.
Brigitte not Brigidette ...... actress not actor
I remember seeing a 512BB on the cover of Road & Track and buying that issue. I was in high school and I studied every inch of that car. It was the first Ferrari I became aware of. Years later I actually saw a Ferrari in person, a 308 GTS.
I think i have that issue around here somewhere 🤔
An awful lot of sexiness going on in this video🤗
Beautiful lines and elegant style to. Just the perfect vintage 🥰
Great video as always! One minor correction: the engine is a 180 degree V12, not a flat "boxer" engine. Each pair of opposing pistons share a crank pin.
Yeah, it was the Ferrari PR team scrambling to make up a name, as you say it's not a boxer, as the firing order is completely wrong and the crank as you said :)
It actually stood for Bridget Bardot...
@@rogerchadwick3452 no, it didn‘t: BB = Berlinetta Bialbero, as Colleen explained.
obviously you are wrong
The layout of an engine is given by the angle and arrangement of the cylinders in the block, not the crankshaft.
The owners manual reads "berlinetta boxer" as the name of the car.
The owners manual says "flat 12", not V12.
The owners manual does not say "boxer engine"
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Fascinating video - love the way you explain the little quirks and history of these cars - learnt a lot in this video - looks like you have a new subscriber !
Awesome! Thanks for subscribing. Glad you like the videos.
Very nice video. My neighbor had one in the late 80s. I woke up every day to hear him warm it up and drive away. Nice way to start the day!
I am contemplating purchasing a Ferrari BBI. I found it strange Ferrari spent a fortune for this flat 12 cylinder, and stopped immediately after the last BB was built. It also lost nearly a thousand RPM’s, and sounds like the oil pan is full of rocks. It’s predecessor the Daytona has the best sounding engine for all Ferrari’s past current and most likely future. I think Ferrari was at its finest with the car’s from the sixties to eighties except the 308 which Ferrari just sold because of the name, and horrible handling and total lack of performance. Late Models sound like a Japanese motorcycle. Also I was always nervous about the rubber band on my Ferrari versus chains that I understand have been brought back. These later car’s will be junked at a young age because of the ridiculous abundance of on board computer’s that will likely not be available.
Aside from the engine, these cars were extremely poorly built
Its not Berlinetta Boxer but Berlinetta Bialbero (DOHC).
All my cars have had female names an i see no reason thats logical why i Ferrari shouldn't have a womans name.
Still my favorite Ferrari. Beautiful with the curves in all the right places.
like Brigitte
Nice video, the engine is a V12 (with a 180 degree V-angle). The conrods of the opposing banks share the same crank pin. Unlike an actual boxer engine...This engine also sits high up in the car as it mounts above the gearbox, which most likely compromises the handling. Not that I would know from experience, as I'm not lucky enough to own such a thing.
A 180 degrees V-engine does not exist. It's called a flat engine.
"BB" does not mean "berlinetta boxer" but "berlinetta bialbero", which is the correct denomination of "flat engine".
Haha....watch the whole video before commenting next time😅
@@simontrucker3624No worries...I wanted to play the Italian a little bit. I saw that you correctly mentioned "bialbero". Great video. Well done!
Brigitte Bardot?
Someone say so 😉
It has that 288gto stance a bit (although wheels don't settle in arches as well) - I remember when they were £58,000 about $90,000 in 1998 when I had a similar priced 348 comp and 355 Spyder. 60 degree cant on steering wheel plus the non assistance a bit shiversome at low speed - ps on the handbrake push button in then push it down with flat palm works a treat / oh and it's worse on the 456 where it is beside seat and sill smashing your wrist and knuckles into smitherines - you've sprayed the underside of swage line matching red am I right, it looks good - the original finish was semi-crackle black I think!
Great video again. A few corrections. The French actress you referred to is Brigitte Bardot, not Birginette Bardot. The Flat 12 engine was used in F1 with the 512F1 (1.5 litre flat 12) in 1964 and 1965 as you said. The 212E was used in 1969 and the Flat 12 engines were used in F1 between 1970 and 1980. Top speed of the 512 Boxers was way higher than 150 (or was it 160 mph you said?) mph, at 174 mph. The lighter 365 GT4 BB with 4.4 litre engine was more powerful, but with lower torque, and a higher top speed. The clutch is stiffer on the 365 GT4 BB being a cable clutch. The 512 BB and 512BBi have hydraulic clutches. The BBi has lower profile Michelin TRX tyres of the same size and and same size wheels on all 4 corners. Regarding the cam chains you got it the wrong way around. All 3 iterations of the BB have cam belts, not chains.
Steven Robertson you are correct. Even their own website shows they are cam belts. ferraris-online.com/serpentine-issue-straight-answer/
We did two videos that day tried to squeeze in 3, got our info mixed up. Trying to get all the videos up in a timely matter isnt easy lol but yeah they are belts. Our bad.
@@FerrarisOnline Keep up the good work. It's too easy to criticise. Your videos are very enjoyable and generally contain lots of info that many people are pleased to learn. Perhaps get your Dad to look at the facts before you post them. He knows more about Ferraris than most anyone.
Thats where i learned from. Im fully aware the 512bbi is a belt not a chain... Its a matter of waking up early and only having one coffee and trying to memorize and film on 3 different cars.
@@FerrarisOnline I understand. Don't work so hard!!!
I love that Iso Grifo in the back too!
Amazing video as always! Nothing better than a beautiful woman who drives a sports car like Ferrari! Now a review of the F40 and drive it in flat sandals!!!!
Brigeidette Bardot. HILarious.... .
Had the privilege to work on these, and Testarossa, 246, 308, 328, 355. Those were the days.
Out in the small hours years ago, I pulled up on the right rear quarter of a BB. I savored the anticipation as I rolled down my window.
As heard in this video, that BB ran with a guttural, mechanical drone very unlike the ripping song you hear from the V-block cars. It was a revelation to a tyro. I had idealized the muscular profile and functional detail of this car over the side-straked TR since the first newsstand cover I'd spotted.
To this day, it puts me in mind of a young Arnold Schwarzenegger. If most of us do not see something both contradictory and comparable in the two, that also puts me in the minority.
So be it.
Loved these cars since seeing one parked up as a kid in the early 80s.
Very polished presentation and historically accurate without going to extreme levels. Great stuff.
It's not a boxer engine. It's a V12 180º. Even if they call him Berlinetta Boxer
V12 180º does not exist
That‘s why BB means ‚Berlinetta Bialbero‘.
@@kriskross63 Yes, surely you are right, it 's because it's a double camshaft engine per cylinder bank.
However, I am tired of seeing the expression "Berlinetta Boxer" in many specialized magazines for many years.
That's why it always missed me, since as I said tecnically it's not a boxer engine.
A very nice design that I will always love!!!
Poor narration..
True story: There was a tiny (80's) showroom, ironically near Newport Beach. They had some interesting cars in there so I stopped by. I homed right in on the BB. 4700mi. Stock tires! I tried it on and it fit me like the proverbial glove. Smelled like a new car too. The salesman was giving me the hard-sell. "So, how much?" $41.000 "41?!" It's negotiable but fairly firm. "Let me think about it.." So I call my dad and beg him to go in on it with me. I couldn't convince him that I knew more than the guy selling it. It's a v12 dad! Buy it yourself, he said.
I could go 20k, but not 40k. Went home, tail between the legs. Within two years they were going for 198k! I was So pissed! Those cars are pure magic🎩
The BBI boxer engine was a all PR it actually didn’t have the boxer piston sequence mechanism as other brands had.
One of my earliest memories of a Ferrari, as a boy lusted over the BB512i
Always wanted this model since I was 7 years old. When I did go to drive one, I could not really do it, I am 6'4". I didn't bother driving it. If your really tall, forget this car!
Oh great a chick explaining Ferraris.
Isnt it though.
The 512BB is the car that started it all for me. I saw a red and black (red w/ black bottom half) one not too far from where I live and I say that was the first time a car made me feel something emotional.
Shawn Boswell : Wow. You can read the brochure....
If the car has been completely rebuilt, including the motor, the mileage would technically be zero following this extensive rebuild/restoration. So unless this has covered 50k miles in the ten years since, this isn't a 50k mile example.
Almost 100% of Ferrari owners are male. The firm I work at buys Ferraris for the lawyers (all males). Once you have the Ferrari...you have the women.
My point: using a woman to sale a Ferrari is like employing a fly to sell fly paper.
Ever seen a Ferrari try to SELL you a woman? You don't need to. Having a Ferrari attracts women like flies to fly paper. Get a male to sell the car; have the girl go along for the ride.
And before claiming sexual discrimination, see, United States v Virginia Military Institute 518 U.S. 515 (1996) majority opinion written by Ruth Bader Ginsburg. You can uniformly discriminate based on gender unless you receive government funding or are a publicly traded corporation on a U.S. stock exchange. Neither apply to you. We checked.
Why no reference to Vern Lindholm and his company, Ferrari Compliance? They were so favored by the Ferrari factory because he bought and imported 99 512BB's that the factory reps came to them for advice that led to the USA version Testa Rossas being first sold in California. Their sign was the same as the factory's at 2270 S Huron, Santa Ana. Vern now buys and imports Warmblood stallions and will dominate the 2028 Los Angeles Olympics dressage competition with his new wife Carolyn.
love this car in my youth. my close friend has kept his all these years and one of the best examples of this car as well. You might see it cruising pch sometime..
It brings memories when I was a kid watching Sammy Hager,I can’t drive 55 video very sexy Pinninfarina and Ms Sheehan lines, I love your videos as always ❤️
Thanks glad you enjoyed it 😀
"I replaced my Raquel Welch poster with a 512 poster when i was a lad!........"No contest!"
@Sir Tristan "I was only joking you dunderhead!"
She's driving onto the onramp to PCH from Balboa Island to Newport Beach.
Love the car, hate the wheel gap.
I like your videos, and watched them all. You made a small mistake, BBs have timing belts, no chains, and to take the engine out, is much more complicated as on a Testarossa. 😀
Greetings from Germany. 🇩🇪
Right, madam is wrong, unfortunately the BB512 has time belts. Greetings from France.
Plus the this wasn't a boxer due to the wrong firing order.
It's was a rushed name to cover-up for BB .
I'd rather sing love songs to a mule than listen to that woman for more than a few minutes.
Brigitte, not Bernadette Bardot. Sweet car, nice review.
Long may these beautiful dinosaurs remain...!!!
Great car stuff! Less Self Loving and preening a must!
The large orange lights on the front of these models look hideous. 🧐
Reported for misleading thumbnail lul
When did Ferrari last win the f1 championship?
Ha ha ha
MERCEDES AMG IS THE BEST !!
MADE IN GERMANY !!!!
Go to sleep, it's late...
The GTO was the best looking Ferrari for me.
BB Era cosi bella che fu soprannominata Brigitte Bardot!!
Knows her bleep about a BB. Love this car. But at 6-5 I ain’t drivin it. Oh well. She could sell it to me tho. Wicked salesperson! Knows every inch of that car. Probably could sell sand to someone stuck in the desert... just sayin. Awesome channel!
Thanks! By the way, would you like to buy some sand?
Back in the mid 80's I worked in what was called the gray market . We converted a few of these to be legal on the U.S. highways. They had a chassis dyno that they would use for part of the testing process and to here a flat 12 running W.F.O. it's something else. But having said that I still like a original Ford GT 40 better it just sounds more angry.
I converted grey market cars as well - but BB512s usually came in as 5 year old vehicle and as such, were EPA exempt back then (so no chassis dyno).
A GT40 is simply better sounding because a 90° V8 is just the best sounding motor. Ever. 😁
@@Steve_MFr I don't know about the 5 year exempt thing. The company I worked for changed everything that they could. Maybe just covering their ass?. Out of all of the places that I have worked they were the only one that did not worry about money. If you needed anything they just went and got it for you. I think what makes the GT40 sound so Bitchin is the headers are "tuned" meaning they are built with the firing order. They are often called a Bundle of Snakes because that's what they look like.
Absolutely one of my all time favourite Ferraris; would love one of these in blue. Great video; thanks for posting!
I would love one of those in the garage!
Good video. I’ll take cam belts thank you. Yes, they need to be looked after, but as you say; “while your at it” opportunity to get after other areas when the engine is pulled. Forced reliability vs unknown cam chain issues down the road. Ferrari ownership is much like owning a competition car; you take care of it, and it will be there for you.
Cam belts do have their advantages.
365BB was the first Ferrari supercar.
Agree with Mark, these in Blue look Awesome!
Good to see a fine Lady doing cars! 👍👍
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed the video
As always when building italian car, especially interior the mind was in another planet : )
She was on a donut media episode Friday
Will she ever say- wanna see my boxer??
I bet you’re fun to play with.
everyone knows a BB is THE Ferrari
yES, dEAN no hyperbole
Worthless Video. Anyone that refers to an E-brake is totally ignorant. A 'Parking Brake' is not an Emergency Brake. 95% of all automotive videos are fairly worthless and presented by someone that is not an Expert Technician with knowledge and experience with numerous Makes & Models. There are numerous beautiful cars, however from an engineering design and serviceability are rather pathetic.
...tan interior...😮😮😐😐☹☹🤢🤢🤮🤮
Thank you for the review
she is shifting gear too soon ..
Is she going shopping or what ?
In 1981 I was working at Budget rent a car on Harbor Blvd Costa Mesa. I was asked to take a customer to the old Newport Imports location by the Arches I believe. Near where Sterling BMW was a few years ago. The man had a cast on his foot, he played pro football for the Oakland Raiders. I dropped him off to pick up his BB 512. Bob Chandler, his car was sitting out front ready to go. I will always remember that sleek looking car, and it is my favorite Ferrari design.
Lovely car. Great vid. Thanks! 😁👍
Glad you enjoyed it 😊
0:50 "lower max rpm"
*VTEC HAS LEFT THE CHAT*
wonderful videos. I am in the market for a Testarossa 512. I hear that those cars are problematic. Any suggestions? Thank you
It depends on how well maintained, we have seen some with problems, others without. If you would like, shoot us an email we might know of one available.
@@FerrarisOnline thank you, i sent you a note to your web page.
The presenter is terrible!
The bucket list Ferrari, one day!
They are a ton of fun to drive!
It doesn’t want to go 55
Your production quality is very high. I might suggest cuts between dialogue. Not less dialogue. But cutting after 5-6 sentences, soliloquies are hard for people to focus on. We all have such short attention spans. But congrats on such an awesome channel!
I could buy a current Porsche GT4RS or GT3 for the same money buyers are asking for this car!
And it still wouldn't be as cool. 😜
@@FerrarisOnline I know you're biased, but I disagree. The GT4RS will likely be the last naturally aspirated mid-engined Porsche before they go electric...the last of it's generation, and is a full GT car designeed by Andy Preuninger making it a rare and collectable car
The leap in Ferrari’s design aesthetic in just 15 years from ‘58-‘73 is pretty astonishing.
Wonderful this Ferrari 512BBi. For me simply the most beautiful and exciting Ferrari ever ❤️
Beautiful car. Visually, great presentation. When speaking off script, the presenter gave me a headache.
Can't wait to see ratarossas BBi on the road eventually
Oh its going to be a while. Restorations can take years.
I really enjoy your videos! I wish there was a garage like yours next to where i live! Thanks for sharing
About the two tone/slender: When you cut an object in half, horisontally, it will look longer from the side, and wider from the rear and the front. The design is a bit "stubby" with the car being, as you said, short. So to make it look a bit more elegant, a two tone, or a blacked out horisontal section, can be a solution. And can make the car look more slender.
Really enjoy your videos and your studio is spotless! With regards to the clutch on the BBi it is actually made to be lighter in operation than the previous two BB models, so similar to a 308 of the same era. Subsequently the BBi would eat their clutches regularly...
Those pants
Thanks for the vid. Forgot how beautiful the BB was. Didn’t that Bosch K Tronic play havoc with a lot of otherwise good cars? But who cares right 😉
As a vintage car collector, the manufacturer does not factor in. No matter how " perfect" it is, if I own it I will drive it to it's potential.
"Good tires," Bob mused, casually lighting a cigarette, "but certainly not great tires."
Most beautiful car.. Piece of history..? The first "shark - face"?
The lines and curves are the distillation for nearly every Ferrari up until the present day. Well nearly every other mid engine car as well. It is timeless!
I'd watch a video with all the driving footage you have compiled together. (All cars in once place)
Also the lady is awesome! seems like someone I'd hangout with
Last of all the hand built Ferrari?
Yes, boxers were the last models to have hand crafted bodies.
Probably the best looking and sounding Ferrari.
Just maybe we could have heard the engine rev out, just once?
Brigadette Bardot :-)))))))
Nice vid - but details are important.
Brigitte Bardot - because details are important😉
Yup - calling her "Brigadette" is like calling Marilyn "Maryellen." And yes, nice video!