First point: the Clone Wars is what happens when the Jedi Order get involved with a Sith manipulated war, the Mandalorian Wars is what happens when they don't...
If star wars had a band of brothers series with clones, but was as realistic as this video. My god, it would be the best war drama ever. Edit: damn I wrote this nearly 4 years ago and I'm still getting likes/ comments huh?
@@BlueTeam-John-Fred-Linda-Kelly While I don't have the capability to pull THAT off (maybe someone will get around to it one day as Disney never will), I am working on an animated version.
Two slave armies fighting a proxy war. The entire conflict was an immoral abomination. It's no wonder the shroud of the Dark Side blinded the Jedi vision.
I mean when you think about it. Yeah it is a prwtty immoral war. The scale of it must be immense. Not only civilian but the mass death of clones by the millions
@@konstantinosnikolakakis8125 no, two slave armies. Droids are shown time and again to be sentient but are effectively slaves in SW without rights or thought given to them. If a droid decides not to fight or asks for mercy it is considered defective the same as a clone. The droids and clones had no say in their roles. They are both equally tragic in their use as disposable tools rather than thinking beings.
Specially Yulareen, when you first see him you say "oh, this good man is like 40, he might as well not change in appearance over the course of the war" but then you watch him in his last appearance in the show and say "damn bro what happened, he looks really old"
Aidan Bennett Yet The Itunes version had a few extra parts clipped off of the original one was Ventress Force choking A clone commander then impaled him with her light saber then kissed the clone commanders dead body which I see why they removed that in iTunes
@@devinp.2934 No fuck that, censorship is the reason we live in this pussy society today. Everybody is scared of their own got damn shadow. The reality of star wars is that everything isn't rainbows and butterflies, war isn't pretty, Ventress doing what she did in that episode only solidified the fact that she was a dark twisted force user. The most common argument is that "its a kids show" whelp guess what in the top right hand corner of the screen it said pg-13 meaning you might want to rethink the whole "For kids" narrative.
2:45 - 3:04 To be fair, they kinda just popped out of nowhere. Obi wan: “Whatcha got there?” Kaminoans: *Training a giant clone army oddly no one knew about* “A smoothie”
I was rewatching Attack of the Clones and it's sort of weird how the clones just come out of nowhere and no one is freaking out about these random guys who all sound alike.
He was still very reckless though, which caused many unnecessary casualties. That said, Anakin's reckless behaviour pales in comparison with Ahsoka. On a personal level she treated clones well, but as a commander she was totally unconcerned about the lives of those under her command.
I think Obi Wan and Yoda were likely the best commanders you could have, treating clones like people and trying to play things safe and defensive. Think back to the first episode of the clone wars with yoda.
Plo Koon also treated his clones like his sons. During one episode, on Plo Koon's LAAT it says in galactic alphabet "Plo's Bros." The clones absolutely loved Plo Koon because he would treat them the same as a jedi.
@Matt 302 but that was thousands of years before Clone Wars where they acted as soldiers and commanders. Between that period, the Jedi has always served the Republic as peacekeeper (sometimes warrior if it deemed necessary) and... well, monks.
Halfdan Gråfeldt Similar to The Pacific and Generation Kill, dirty and grimey, showing pain and the reality of war. More so than Star Wars has ever shown. But also mixing some light elements for realism, similar to what we have seen in Star Wars before.
@@muskot2 Andor live action series will be the closest to the darker and grimiest show we will have with spy heist stuff and espionage, the dirty side of the Rebellion that Cassian hinted to Jyn.
Clearly you’ve not seen Black Cauldron. They can go dark. I mean the Clone Wars tv series made by Lucas could go dark. Who’s to say that novels can go dark? The movies are family friendly but some of the other media can explore.
When you realize that Anakin is actually the good guy in the clone wars because he treated his men like equals and that it makes perfect sense that they would want to keep serving under him after he became Vader
I wish we could see how more of the Jedi treated the clones. Most of the time we see jedi-clone interaction, they act like best friends. Yoda, Plo-Koon, Anakin, Obi-Wan, Ashoka etc, etc. Outside of Krell we never get to see just how the clones were really treated.
@@rocekth PTSD is diagnosable and is considered a mental condition, not stress. There is a difference of staying calm in battle and seeing your friends get cut in half by a crazed robotic general.
@@mementomori1320 tThey were also genetically bred to follow orders no matter how deadly and they defied Krell's orders. There were moments that showed how human they actually were. The Umbara arc is one of them. I doubt Rex would have ever forgotten the feeling of shooting his own men. While the tolerance was probably high, they likely still suffered from PTSD, not really something you can just breed out of somthing perminantly. I doubt Rex ever forgot shooting his own men.
Umbara in the star wars: the clone wars show is actually shown with rose tinted glasses believe it or not, in the comics and the book series (does anyone know if they are still makeing the books i cant seem to find them anymore?) is actually alot more vicious.
@@Suncowow Agreed. Jabiim and Merson are ones I can think off the top of my head that were absolutely brutal (Palpatine even speaks about not releasing the actual casualties for Jabiim to the public because it would lower morale too much). At least Umbara ended in a Republic victory with most of the troops still intact. During Merson basically all Republic troops onworld were killed within the first day of fighting so vast and entrenched were the CIS armies. Even the first Battle of Kamino featured the clone sickness, a biologically engineered virus, that targeted clones and was spread throughout the air systems which little could be done to save those infected (it caused their skin to boil off in hives or something horrific). The books you may be looking for are graphic novels by Dark Horse Comics. They have splendid art and dialogue, and are indeed hard to come by. I was lucky to purchase many of them when they came out around 2002-2005. Sadly, since Disney took over, they seem to be out of print. If you cannot find the exact graphic novels I know the SW: Panel to Panel artbooks feature information and even some pages about them. Let me know if you need exact titles.
@@lauranimbus8092 Thank you i knew that there were comics but i could not recall who had made them at the time, and if i could have the titles for them that would be great thaanks.
@@Suncowow Sure, no problem. 1 The Defense of Kamino", 2 "Victories and Sacrifices" (be careful, I've tried requesting this from libraries and kept getting the incorrect book: there is a cartoon-Clone Wars book with the same exact title :p), 3 "Last Stand on Jabiim", 4 "Light and Dark", 5 "The Best Blades" (my personal favorite), 6 "On the Fields of Battle", 7 "When They Were Brothers", 8 "The Last Siege, the Final Truth", and 9 "Endgame". I recently went to Amazon and it looks like they sell most of these on there, though usually used (probably weeded items from libraries). Best of luck! It's a great series, I highly recommend it. :)
The clones are basically like Unsullied from Game of Thrones, brutally disciplined from a young age and then rented out to serve without pay for a wealthy client.
And yet, even with the whole Grey Worm arc about feeling fear and love, they didn't betray Daenerys is season 8. If they did it would have been the equivalent of order 66 and would have completed the Unsullied arc of being more than just blind followers.
@@cloudcover540 The Unsullied loved Dany because they made her cause their own. She freed them and offered tbem riches and honor. She freed them and let them choose their own leaders.
Good video. No army is immune to criticism and bad decisions. With that said the clone army was too expensive. The clones could have been deployed as battlefield commanders and generals. Leading high grade droids and B-1 to fill in their ranks. Jedi and other special units would be used as shock troops and special forces. In general not as leaders. but as Force multipliers. Skill Jedi commanders. Would still lead certain units.
Which proves how bad their army was configured. 90% of Jedi shouldn't have been in leadership positions. And they put all their eggs into making clones.
Yes I did watch the movie's. And yes the point was not for the republic to win. It was for palpatine to win. From that point of view. The war was a smashing success. With the exception of a few escape Jedi of course. My point is not what efficient for the emperor. but For the republic. And CIS for that matter. And just because palpatine was pulling the strings. Doesn't mean common sense and military logistics / strategy go out the window. Even today the US army looks at supply routes. military lines. And the cost to support all surrounding activity. But it kind of seems a bit like Spaceballs when nobody looks at the total expense. Manpower. weaponry. gear. transportation. supply lines. By filling in their ranks with some cheaper units they could hold their ground better and defend more worlds.
Palpatine needed to draw out the war! For palpatine war was good for business. For the republic war was bad for business. And for the CIS a long war was bad for business. But a short war and negotiations would be highly profitable. This is only science fictionand I guess one reason why I'm a big fan of generation Tech's TH-cam channel. Is breaking down the strengths and weaknesses of all parties in film.
And that's what makes Star wars so fun. And I do admit that generation tech is it be overzealous. But you should have seen what the dolphins did to Atlantis!!
Why clones died even whilst wearing armor? Easy, Clones wore the armor because it stopped blaster fire from tearing them apart / leaving massive holes or burning them to dust... So when the blaster fire hit instead of going right through the clones 99% of the time it impacted and broke the bones and even sometimes from impact the shockwave would liquify internals. But it's faster to grab a clone with broken bones from the battlefield fix him up and send him back out then re-grow a new clone. This way you're able to keep the army population up rather than having to rely on new batches of clones and wasting them.
Plus, it took a decade for a mature batch of clones to be battlefield ready. It was crucial to keep those that could still fight in the pool in case the fresh batches needed more time.
@@DefectiveDetective420 that's why the Republic decided in legends to open up additional cloning facilities that used a different cloning technique that could grow a clone to maturity within a year, Coruscants moon Centax-II was hallowed out and converted into a massive cloning facility that cranked out millions of Spaarti Clones
@@keithkahler1327 I am aware of this fact, yes. It became clear to the older batches who wasn't on Kamino and who was. Accents were said to be different.
@@DefectiveDetective420 admittedly it breathed new life into the formations that had been warn down due to attrition, and sometimes straight up suicidal orders given out by rather sociopathic Jedi generals
The whole slave army thing was largely ignored but if you read the fantastic and sadly unfinished Republic Commando books at least one Jedi felt strongly enough about it to try and fight it in a way. Bardan Jusik left the order and jumped whole hog into Kal's plan to set up a safe haven for clones.
At least the Clones mention it as part of their existence, but yeah, the Jedi never lift a finger to stop it or talk to the Republic Senate to alleviate their conditions despite the war being more pressing
@AHL Productions Well to play devil's advocate here, most of the market share of the franchise comes from younger audiences. Something like TCW or even the last two seasons of Rebels are a good compromise, as they are still kid-friendly but take on more gritty and darker themes. That being said, I wouldn't mind something like that! Mandalorian is shaping up to be a bit more adult than the animated series were.
You know, I always assumed that since the Empire was based off the Third Reich, than the Clone Wars was the equivalent of World War 1. I didn't know I was more right than I realized...
@Mythic It may not be as overt as some of the ties with the Empire and the Reich, but even if not intended at first really did become more like it. Obviously some changes occur because of how the Star Wars universe is and all, but things like the blockade of Naboo and attempted assassination of Padme do roughly approximate events leading up to the start of WW1, the GAR as I recall was smaller than the CIS army (Germany/Austria-Hungary vs Russia) and a smaller navy (Imperial German Navy vs Royal Navy). Many of the campaigns became bogged down and fairly static much like WW1 trench warfare that lasted for months on end. Catastrophic destruction and civilian casualties, laying waste to cities/towns/planets, development of attack aircraft and fighters (yes these existed before in their universe however the development seen in media of the Clone Wars resembles more development of WW1 planes as the war progressed), armoured and mobile warfare have some mirroring, and the GAR troop uniforms slowly evolve toward what we see the Empire's uniforms become for soldiers just like WW1 in to the Reich. Overall the clone wars has quite a few similarities. How intentional or not can be debated.
Anthony Murray dude the clone wars have a lot in common with different conflicts. Why? Because it’s a fictional WAR. Your whole argument is like. Well ppl died in ww1 just like in the clone wars so.
@@anthony7697 SW hystory also mirrors Rome. The Republic was formed from a coup against a corrupt king. The Empire was formed from "heroes" from the elite leaching the corrupt senate and eventually getting rid of it. Augustus reformed the nation even as he became a "god emperor"
I’d LOVE to see a realistic animated clone wars show or movie with Temuera Morrison portraying the clowns that highlight how brutal the war really was. PLEASE!
War is rarely a conflict between ''good vs evil''. Instead, most of the time it functions as a ''scale of grays''. The more darker the conflict becomes, better for the manipulations of the Sith. Sidious in that regard was a genius.
Right... I found out that Hitler liked dogs! Therefore he is totally as good or evil as anyone. Not that liking dogs means good things for the people around him. And most people don't slaughter 11 million on the basis of paranoid racist bullshit. But I found a drop of white, which automatically makes up for an ocean of black! I'm a smart, tolererant, oh so above morality person!TM
Outliers like Pong Krell, Anakin Slywalker, Count Dooku, and more... I liked Karen Traviss' depiction of the Clones, and their interactions with their trainers, and sometimes, became like family with them. Unlike the Clone Wars series depiction, especially the Domino Squad.
It's honestly kind of a wonder that civilization managed to progress to the point that it has in the Star Wars Galaxy. It's like the place can barely go a decade without a galactic scale civil war. Sometimes TWICE in one decade. It's nuts.
Morale of the story. No matter which side you're on, prepare to murder civilians. Or their livelihood and everything they depend on for survival. It happened in fantasy, it happened in science fiction, and it happened in real life. At least I can feel better knowing that this particular case is just fictitious. Thanks for the upload~ also going to watch the clone wars series now~
Poor clones, there arguably my favorite characters, and the battle where the clones and droids used vibroblades reminded me of the book that Leela was reading on that episode of Futurama, "Greatest Machete Battles". Then Zap says: Turanga Leela!
This is a great video because it sums up the many details of star wars in a few bluntly honest words, emphasis on the word "honest." You should definitely do this again. God bless~
I'm writing a script for a Live-Action Clone Wars TV Show that will be far different than the original animated one. This means more battles, more story, more behind the scenes things that we never see in the films and TV Shows, and finally, points of view that aren't all from Characters like Annikan, Obi-Wan, Asoka, etc. This means that you'll get a lot more from the clones than you did in the Clone Wars. I'm working on the Pilot Episode which will tell three stories happening at the first Battle of Geonosis. I commented here since I know there are a lot of Star Wars fans here and I wanted to hear some input on the idea, recommendations, and maybe even some requests for episodes.
Ill give you your first idea. Two capital ships one republic one Confederate fighting it out like old pirate battles. A small group of clones is tasked the infiltrating the Confederate ship and sabotaging it from the inside. But they quickly find it wont be an easy task, most of the band dies with only a single clone setting the explosives before being shot by a large group of droids.
Accusation: Jedi were not very good generals. Reality: With no other armies, Jedi were the only ones with any training in military history, tactics, and strategy available. They were the best available. Accusation: Jedi treated their clones poorly. Counter accusation: citation needed. If you bring up the Traviss as your only source, please get fucked. She also portrayed the Jedi as ineffective fighters more like space hippies. Reality: With no armies available, combat logicians had to figure out even basic logistics from scratch. Kaminoans had a system that worked. The Republic had to use that until they figured a different and useable way. Accusation: Blasters are bad... Reality: Blasters were the standard weapon across the galaxy.
Yeah, I agree. I think if the Jedi were a part of the actual military and worked with them rather than over them like how we see in the show, more battles would have been won, or at least been a bit more decisive. Letting the Jedi Code get in the way of Vanilla Military tactics was the biggest mistake the republic could have made. In rare cases, like with Plo Koon, Anakin, Obi-wan and a select few other Jedi, they would be able to effectively lead and it worked out well. Notice, these Jedi saw their clones as human beings, and actual people with personalities, and not just tools of war. But even then, Anakin was constantly second guessing whether the Jedi Way was really the right way to win the war. Remember what Tarkin had said that lead Anakin to say “Maybe he’s right. Maybe the Jedi Code keeps us from achieving victory in this war” or something along those lines. You’ll find it at the end of the Citadel Arc, where Tarkin states if more Jedi were like Anakin, the Military structure and tactics wouldn’t be a complete shit show.
I also wonder how conscription didn't become a thing in the Clone Wars. Both sides had MASSIVE populaces to draw on, and I can't help but think that it would have likely been cheaper(At least for the Republic) to train existing people rather than grow them, then train and equip them.
To be fair, jedi like anakin also got better results for the fact that HE ACTUALLY LISTENED TO HIS SUBORDINATES! It seems more like a lot of the other jedi just do what they think is right and barely consult the men who trained for years to literally fight this war
Thunder Cricket I imagine that most people didn’t want to fight, and the few who did would have joined and fought along clones. I figure since clones are genetically engineered and enhanced, normal troops would get in the way, so they’d be separate battalions for them, and most people who got conscripted would be put in more defense positions than attack ones.
Archangel Azrael Exactly. They trusted the force, but even then the Jedi who did often used it as an excuse to not really do anything. It’s honestly ridiculous they’d get high command positions with very little experience and overall had no intent on winning most of the time, but instead just doing the bare minimum.
This was a really interesting take on the clone wars. I never really thought about the republic commitng these atrocities but i wasnt all that suprised that they did something. I never expected this much though this video was really enlightening thank you!!
I love Rogue One. and I'm sure as hell if the director did a movie about Clone Troopers who joined the Rebellion fighting Clone Troopers who stayed in the Empire would be fking amazing. It should end with Rex leading his squad of Rebel Commandos and Rebel Clone Troopers vs Cody and his Dark Troopers. the climax would be a knife fight between the two as Vode An plays in the background.
What most people don't understand, is that conflict and violence are stepping stones on the path of the Dark Side. The effect they have on the mind, emotions, and will of the Jedi that joined the war, was utterly intoxicating. The more they used their abilities for the purpose of war and destruction, the more tempting that use became. To excel in the indulgence of such power, was to guarantee their inevitable fall. Simply participating in the war, ultimately doomed them to Darkness. They couldn't see their own downfall, because they were blinded by their own corruption. The Force is neutral. Darkness and Light belong only to the wielder. You can either surrender yourself to the Will of the Force, or you can make It surrender to your own. Either way...the Force responds to the Will of the user.
Whenever I played bf2 and see actual squads that colored out as wolf, star corps, 501st. I love seeing diff platoons in the game working together especially when star Corp's show up at khashk(I forgot how to spell it but the wookie homeland)
It's really weird actually that the Republic and jedi are treated like the good guys in The Clone Wars: they use a slave army built by eugenicists. It's also very condemning of the jedi order that they go along with the Republic using a slave army. I find the lore interesting, and I enjoy The Clone Wars TV series, but some of the lore (mainly in the prequel trilogy) seems really badly thought out. For example the original concept of Clone Wars being against clones makes far more sense than the canon.
I personally loved the Republic Commando series, which did cover some of the atrocities the Commandos experienced due to poor leadership. 10k Republic Commandoes were on Geonosis, only 5k came back. Clones who were "unstable" held up barracks and refused to come out in fear of being iced. Black ops soldiers chased after rouge ARC troopers (the original 100).
Great Video. I really do wish they had showed us things like this in the various shows. You pretty much have to crack open the novels and comics to learn this stuff. It is still present as a underlying theme sometimes, though often just not focued on.
I'd love a trilogy of a show about the Sith in hiding during the high republic age. If I made it, it would feature the Sith as the protagonists and not paint them as entirely evil. The Jedi could be shown as a bit more brutal organization as we've previously seen. It would have a wise Sith lord who takes a new apprentice and teaches him about the corrupt society of the Jedi. It would be cool to also see a younger and less experienced Yoda, maybe not yet a master. Maybe even a bit arrogant. Star Wars has always been told from the perspective of the Jedi and thus, made them look like the good guys and the Sith like the bad guys. Everyone always forget how the Jedi and the Sith are two extremes and not simply good and evil.
Order 66 was originally supposed to be executed because the Clones hated Jedi so much because of their recklessness. There was even a cut out scene in RoTS where the clone executed a Jedi on Felucia with an ATTE and then stepped on her limp body with it.
This is a great video showcasing a topic that kinda gets swept under the rug sometimes when people talk about Star Wars. I feel this dynamic--that both sides condoned and created atrocities, with their troopers and civilians caught in the crossfire--is what makes the Clone Wars era so incredibly interesting to me. :) I think what it says about war, whether wars of the past or future, is really on the head and important. I know 'technically' it's not canon but the Dark Horse Clone Wars comics (see "The Best Blades" and "Battle for Jabiim") showcase some great examples of some really severe lapses in intel and preparation that caused major ripples in the history of the Star Wars universe. [spoilers if you haven't read those books yet] The Battle of Merson literally entailed every single Republic trooper and Jedi onworld were killed within the first day of fighting as the CIS army was revealed to be too vast and entrenched for them. Jabiim's battle ended with the pocket of Republic survivors literally being evacuated from the planet, leaving their Jabiimese supporters left to fend for themselves. I think the battle of Jabiim featured the second most number of Jedi killed in action during a single campaign in any of the Clone Wars battles (second to the first battle of Geonosis). [end of spoilers] And these failed campaigns are just Palpatine's machinations, your point that many of the Jedi were dispassionate toward their troops is exactly right. When it came to sowing distrust, frustration, and even hatred among their troops and their civilian supporters Palpatine barely had to lift a finger. There were so many Jedi that were content to brush aside their lack of experience and subsequent casualties/failures as to not be affected emotionally, and to maintain their dignified rank.
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First point: the Clone Wars is what happens when the Jedi Order get involved with a Sith manipulated war, the Mandalorian Wars is what happens when they don't...
So really damned if you do, damned if you don't
The Jedi just simply get hell no matter what
Actually, in Legends, the Mandalorian Wars were also manipulated by the Sith, hence the immediate transition to the Jedi Civil War afterwards
@@McShmoodle i think Jedi Spartan 38 meant the Mandalorian Wars is what happens when the Jedi Order doesn't get involved with a Sith manipulated war
@@CorvusCorone68 Gotcha, my bad
If star wars had a band of brothers series with clones, but was as realistic as this video. My god, it would be the best war drama ever.
Edit: damn I wrote this nearly 4 years ago and I'm still getting likes/ comments huh?
Try the Republic Commando novels by Karen Traviss. Not sure if it goes far enough but it certainly shows a clone's eye view of the war.
A live action 100% unchanged clone commando adaptation would be the best!
@@BlueTeam-John-Fred-Linda-Kelly While I don't have the capability to pull THAT off (maybe someone will get around to it one day as Disney never will), I am working on an animated version.
@@circustrainstudios341 shit, really? When do you think it'll come out?
I think the best setting for this would be the 327th star corps on felucia.
Two slave armies fighting a proxy war. The entire conflict was an immoral abomination. It's no wonder the shroud of the Dark Side blinded the Jedi vision.
Grand Moff I think that was part of the plan !
I mean when you think about it. Yeah it is a prwtty immoral war. The scale of it must be immense. Not only civilian but the mass death of clones by the millions
*One slave army
@@konstantinosnikolakakis8125 no, two slave armies.
Droids are shown time and again to be sentient but are effectively slaves in SW without rights or thought given to them.
If a droid decides not to fight or asks for mercy it is considered defective the same as a clone. The droids and clones had no say in their roles. They are both equally tragic in their use as disposable tools rather than thinking beings.
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3 years looked and felt like an eternity for those featured in the Clone Wars.
Specially Yulareen, when you first see him you say "oh, this good man is like 40, he might as well not change in appearance over the course of the war" but then you watch him in his last appearance in the show and say "damn bro what happened, he looks really old"
Palpatine: *WELL YOU SEE, I'm a bit sympathetic myself*
@@alexfernandez882 Stress does age / tire people. Look at most political leaders today.
The closest we’ve gotten was the clone wars tv show it wasn’t afraid of being dark at times but it was definitely controlled on what it was we saw
Aidan Bennett Yet The Itunes version had a few extra parts clipped off of the original one was Ventress Force choking A clone commander then impaled him with her light saber then kissed the clone commanders dead body which I see why they removed that in iTunes
@@luigimrlgaming9484 they didnt remove that in the show tho
Lippester Lippester They did on Cartoon Network. I understand tbh. That scene still makes me uncomfortable.
@@devinp.2934 No fuck that, censorship is the reason we live in this pussy society today. Everybody is scared of their own got damn shadow. The reality of star wars is that everything isn't rainbows and butterflies, war isn't pretty, Ventress doing what she did in that episode only solidified the fact that she was a dark twisted force user. The most common argument is that "its a kids show" whelp guess what in the top right hand corner of the screen it said pg-13 meaning you might want to rethink the whole "For kids" narrative.
In the Netflix version they kept in the Uh Censored scene
Never say no to Bacta.
Yup
Ahhhhhh bacta- zanny
Juan 61 DE haha lol
Zzzz...zzzz....zanny?
Rule 39
2:45 - 3:04
To be fair, they kinda just popped out of nowhere.
Obi wan: “Whatcha got there?”
Kaminoans: *Training a giant clone army oddly no one knew about* “A smoothie”
THESOVIETWARBEAR I love the Icarly reference
I was rewatching Attack of the Clones and it's sort of weird how the clones just come out of nowhere and no one is freaking out about these random guys who all sound alike.
@@rosesweetcharlotte The dialogue was pretty much "so as you know here is the army you ordered." Obi Wan: "Oh right of course." lmao.
@@louis8487 I wonder what would have happened had Yoda refused the slave army? Were they just going to just take them out back and Old Yeller them?
@@rosesweetcharlotte Probably
The writers did show us the dark side of the Clone Wars. It's called the Senate.
lol just like in real life :D
I thought it was Umbara.
Good Good.....
Who is clone trooper spar?
i am the senate
Give Anakin credit, he treated the clones like people.
He was still very reckless though, which caused many unnecessary casualties. That said, Anakin's reckless behaviour pales in comparison with Ahsoka. On a personal level she treated clones well, but as a commander she was totally unconcerned about the lives of those under her command.
Yeah both Anakin and Ashoka treated their clones like people but were reckless in battle causing lots of death
Thought the clone wars tv show we have always seen Windu saving clones
I think Obi Wan and Yoda were likely the best commanders you could have, treating clones like people and trying to play things safe and defensive. Think back to the first episode of the clone wars with yoda.
Plo Koon also treated his clones like his sons. During one episode, on Plo Koon's LAAT it says in galactic alphabet "Plo's Bros." The clones absolutely loved Plo Koon because he would treat them the same as a jedi.
The Jedi were warriors not soldiers. They can fight, but don’t know battlefield tactics. Which is why many weren’t good generals.
Precisely.
@Matt 302 but that was thousands of years before Clone Wars where they acted as soldiers and commanders. Between that period, the Jedi has always served the Republic as peacekeeper (sometimes warrior if it deemed necessary) and... well, monks.
@Matt 302 actually jedi were the peacekeepers only after they apparently destroyed the sith, before that they were quite warriors
that makes no sense a soldier is a warrior that is duty bound to an organization.
Well said
Dude, that classic Battlefront 1 galaxy map thing took me back.
Keaton Lee on god I wish ea kept it the same
I noticed the same thing.
Every god damn time...
Same lol
Indeed.
6:19
"There are heroes on both sides. Evil is everywhere"
-Episode lll Opening Crawl
If the mandalorian goes well I'd love to see a live action series set during the clone wars... maybe something like Republic Commando
Halfdan Gråfeldt Similar to The Pacific and Generation Kill, dirty and grimey, showing pain and the reality of war. More so than Star Wars has ever shown. But also mixing some light elements for realism, similar to what we have seen in Star Wars before.
@Tomos Snow The clone wars did a good job of individualizing the clones though. Plus cheaper casting... only need one dude to play all the leads 😁
I would sell my soul to see that. Picture Jason Beghe as Kal Skirata....
@@muskot2 Andor live action series will be the closest to the darker and grimiest show we will have with spy heist stuff and espionage, the dirty side of the Rebellion that Cassian hinted to Jyn.
I wish Star Wars could explore more of these dark stories. But Disney will be Disney...
Mickey Mouse: Now get out there and get me some god damn money ha ha.
Mr. Diugh Hahahahaha
Mr. Diugh yo the “ha ha” XD
Yeah Disney sucks.
Clearly you’ve not seen Black Cauldron. They can go dark. I mean the Clone Wars tv series made by Lucas could go dark. Who’s to say that novels can go dark? The movies are family friendly but some of the other media can explore.
When you realize that Anakin is actually the good guy in the clone wars because he treated his men like equals and that it makes perfect sense that they would want to keep serving under him after he became Vader
They dont know what happened to anakin.
They all assumed he died, and none of them knew who vader was.
He also would go on to show less compassion for his troops and more anger (and therefore power for himself)
@@o01chris10o And in canon, we see plenty of times where he abused and mistreated the clones as Vader.
@@DRGPlarp Thats not true he led the siege on the temple leading the troops
@@DRGPlarp Forget what i said i just had a senior moment
Good video. My favorite episodes of the Clone Wars were the more brutal ones: the invasion of Geonosis and Umbara.
They show a realistic depiction of the brutality of war.
Vic Viquor “Good thing those bugs can’t aim.” Famous last words.
Umbara is basically space vietnam
Aaah yes, space d-day and space vietnam,who could forget.
I was the one who gave you like number 66 B^)
I wish we could see how more of the Jedi treated the clones. Most of the time we see jedi-clone interaction, they act like best friends. Yoda, Plo-Koon, Anakin, Obi-Wan, Ashoka etc, etc. Outside of Krell we never get to see just how the clones were really treated.
Don't forget that PTSD was probably a thing, especially in clones.
Rex specifically states that clones are immune to psychological stress in the episode where Tup kills Tiplee
@@rocekth PTSD is diagnosable and is considered a mental condition, not stress. There is a difference of staying calm in battle and seeing your friends get cut in half by a crazed robotic general.
Chris. They were genetically altered to be immune to shell shock/post traumatic stress disorder.
@@mementomori1320 tThey were also genetically bred to follow orders no matter how deadly and they defied Krell's orders. There were moments that showed how human they actually were. The Umbara arc is one of them. I doubt Rex would have ever forgotten the feeling of shooting his own men. While the tolerance was probably high, they likely still suffered from PTSD, not really something you can just breed out of somthing perminantly. I doubt Rex ever forgot shooting his own men.
In rebels commander Wolffe seemed like he had PTSD
“The Dark Side of the clone wars the writers never let us see.”
So does Umbara not count?
Should be more episode like that
Umbara in the star wars: the clone wars show is actually shown with rose tinted glasses believe it or not, in the comics and the book series (does anyone know if they are still makeing the books i cant seem to find them anymore?) is actually alot more vicious.
@@Suncowow Agreed. Jabiim and Merson are ones I can think off the top of my head that were absolutely brutal (Palpatine even speaks about not releasing the actual casualties for Jabiim to the public because it would lower morale too much). At least Umbara ended in a Republic victory with most of the troops still intact. During Merson basically all Republic troops onworld were killed within the first day of fighting so vast and entrenched were the CIS armies. Even the first Battle of Kamino featured the clone sickness, a biologically engineered virus, that targeted clones and was spread throughout the air systems which little could be done to save those infected (it caused their skin to boil off in hives or something horrific).
The books you may be looking for are graphic novels by Dark Horse Comics. They have splendid art and dialogue, and are indeed hard to come by. I was lucky to purchase many of them when they came out around 2002-2005. Sadly, since Disney took over, they seem to be out of print. If you cannot find the exact graphic novels I know the SW: Panel to Panel artbooks feature information and even some pages about them. Let me know if you need exact titles.
@@lauranimbus8092 Thank you i knew that there were comics but i could not recall who had made them at the time, and if i could have the titles for them that would be great thaanks.
@@Suncowow Sure, no problem. 1 The Defense of Kamino", 2 "Victories and Sacrifices" (be careful, I've tried requesting this from libraries and kept getting the incorrect book: there is a cartoon-Clone Wars book with the same exact title :p), 3 "Last Stand on Jabiim", 4 "Light and Dark", 5 "The Best Blades" (my personal favorite), 6 "On the Fields of Battle", 7 "When They Were Brothers", 8 "The Last Siege, the Final Truth", and 9 "Endgame". I recently went to Amazon and it looks like they sell most of these on there, though usually used (probably weeded items from libraries). Best of luck! It's a great series, I highly recommend it. :)
The clones are basically like Unsullied from Game of Thrones, brutally disciplined from a young age and then rented out to serve without pay for a wealthy client.
And yet, even with the whole Grey Worm arc about feeling fear and love, they didn't betray Daenerys is season 8. If they did it would have been the equivalent of order 66 and would have completed the Unsullied arc of being more than just blind followers.
Turn it around, clones existing way longer then the unsullied
@@cloudcover540 The Unsullied loved Dany because they made her cause their own. She freed them and offered tbem riches and honor. She freed them and let them choose their own leaders.
my thoughts exactly!
@@rosesweetcharlotte Then helped her kill millions of innocent people and were like 'ye but lol'.
"expanding internally and doing Grevious damage...." Get it? Because General Grevoius was killed by a blaster?
Okay Ill stop.
He actually survived that
No he didn’t.
@@allianzsaint4336 he really didn’t
Good video. No army is immune to criticism and bad decisions. With that said the clone army was too expensive. The clones could have been deployed as battlefield commanders and generals. Leading high grade droids and B-1 to fill in their ranks. Jedi and other special units would be used as shock troops and special forces. In general not as leaders. but as Force multipliers. Skill Jedi commanders. Would still lead certain units.
Which proves how bad their army was configured. 90% of Jedi shouldn't have been in leadership positions. And they put all their eggs into making clones.
Yes I did watch the movie's. And yes the point was not for the republic to win. It was for palpatine to win. From that point of view. The war was a smashing success. With the exception of a few escape Jedi of course. My point is not what efficient for the emperor. but For the republic. And CIS for that matter. And just because palpatine was pulling the strings. Doesn't mean common sense and military logistics / strategy go out the window. Even today the US army looks at supply routes. military lines. And the cost to support all surrounding activity. But it kind of seems a bit like Spaceballs when nobody looks at the total expense. Manpower. weaponry. gear. transportation. supply lines. By filling in their ranks with some cheaper units they could hold their ground better and defend more worlds.
Palpatine needed to draw out the war! For palpatine war was good for business. For the republic war was bad for business. And for the CIS a long war was bad for business. But a short war and negotiations would be highly profitable. This is only science fictionand I guess one reason why I'm a big fan of generation Tech's TH-cam channel. Is breaking down the strengths and weaknesses of all parties in film.
And that's what makes Star wars so fun. And I do admit that generation tech is it be overzealous. But you should have seen what the dolphins did to Atlantis!!
Guys I'm back. the red fins are coming! the red fins are coming!
Why clones died even whilst wearing armor?
Easy, Clones wore the armor because it stopped blaster fire from tearing them apart / leaving massive holes or burning them to dust...
So when the blaster fire hit instead of going right through the clones 99% of the time it impacted and broke the bones and even sometimes from impact the shockwave would liquify internals.
But it's faster to grab a clone with broken bones from the battlefield fix him up and send him back out then re-grow a new clone. This way you're able to keep the army population up rather than having to rely on new batches of clones and wasting them.
Plus, it took a decade for a mature batch of clones to be battlefield ready. It was crucial to keep those that could still fight in the pool in case the fresh batches needed more time.
@@DefectiveDetective420 that's why the Republic decided in legends to open up additional cloning facilities that used a different cloning technique that could grow a clone to maturity within a year, Coruscants moon Centax-II was hallowed out and converted into a massive cloning facility that cranked out millions of Spaarti Clones
@@keithkahler1327 I am aware of this fact, yes. It became clear to the older batches who wasn't on Kamino and who was. Accents were said to be different.
@@DefectiveDetective420 admittedly it breathed new life into the formations that had been warn down due to attrition, and sometimes straight up suicidal orders given out by rather sociopathic Jedi generals
I personally would say that the 5 worst planets for a clone trooper to fight on would be Felucia, Umbara, Jabiim, Salucami, Mygeeto,
Matthew Wittkopp hoth if the engagement is an extended one
Geonosis
“Blasters do not fire lasers.”
Clone in first season: “Eat laser, clanker!”
The whole slave army thing was largely ignored but if you read the fantastic and sadly unfinished Republic Commando books at least one Jedi felt strongly enough about it to try and fight it in a way. Bardan Jusik left the order and jumped whole hog into Kal's plan to set up a safe haven for clones.
Unfinished?
At least the Clones mention it as part of their existence, but yeah, the Jedi never lift a finger to stop it or talk to the Republic Senate to alleviate their conditions despite the war being more pressing
@@l1745 Traviss started writing an Imperial Commando series as a continuation, but they were assassinated by Disney' purge of the EU.
10:30 Palpatine seems to have lazy eyes
We need a rated r saving private Ryan like Star Wars movie about the clone wars
The good thing is that you only need 1 actor to be the clones lol
@AHL Productions Well to play devil's advocate here, most of the market share of the franchise comes from younger audiences. Something like TCW or even the last two seasons of Rebels are a good compromise, as they are still kid-friendly but take on more gritty and darker themes. That being said, I wouldn't mind something like that! Mandalorian is shaping up to be a bit more adult than the animated series were.
You know, I always assumed that since the Empire was based off the Third Reich, than the Clone Wars was the equivalent of World War 1.
I didn't know I was more right than I realized...
@Mythic It may not be as overt as some of the ties with the Empire and the Reich, but even if not intended at first really did become more like it. Obviously some changes occur because of how the Star Wars universe is and all, but things like the blockade of Naboo and attempted assassination of Padme do roughly approximate events leading up to the start of WW1, the GAR as I recall was smaller than the CIS army (Germany/Austria-Hungary vs Russia) and a smaller navy (Imperial German Navy vs Royal Navy). Many of the campaigns became bogged down and fairly static much like WW1 trench warfare that lasted for months on end. Catastrophic destruction and civilian casualties, laying waste to cities/towns/planets, development of attack aircraft and fighters (yes these existed before in their universe however the development seen in media of the Clone Wars resembles more development of WW1 planes as the war progressed), armoured and mobile warfare have some mirroring, and the GAR troop uniforms slowly evolve toward what we see the Empire's uniforms become for soldiers just like WW1 in to the Reich.
Overall the clone wars has quite a few similarities. How intentional or not can be debated.
Anthony Murray dude the clone wars have a lot in common with different conflicts. Why? Because it’s a fictional WAR. Your whole argument is like. Well ppl died in ww1 just like in the clone wars so.
It was based off Rome's Republic transitioning to an Empire.
So no one is going to mention that the third reich was ww2, and the second reich was the German Empire that fought in ww1?
@@anthony7697 SW hystory also mirrors Rome. The Republic was formed from a coup against a corrupt king. The Empire was formed from "heroes" from the elite leaching the corrupt senate and eventually getting rid of it. Augustus reformed the nation even as he became a "god emperor"
I wish we could see more about planets like the horrors of Felucia from the clones point of view.
They're in the giant mushrooms!
I’d LOVE to see a realistic animated clone wars show or movie with Temuera Morrison portraying the clowns that highlight how brutal the war really was. PLEASE!
As much as I love Dee Bradley Baker, I think you're right, nobody can truly replace Temuera
@@Fleechin agreed, Boss.
@@MotoroidARFC You could use some bacta, commando
@@Fleechin Yes, sir! Right away, sir!
Was it “red red green” or “red green red”?
So when a trooper ( like arc trooper havoc ) got shot the head there brain basically evaporated
klank 101 Then Rex should’ve died in TCW if he was shot so close to his heart
@@eric97909 plot armor ?
No, clone armor
@@rafaeldiaz2147 very goos
@@eric97909 I sort of assumed that given how degraded the droids looked, that their weapons were sort of defective by that point.
The book series republic commandos does a great job fleshing out a lot of the points made here
Padawans were to be considered generals - enough said.
also: republic commando is the way to go for knowing they're side of view.
That's the thing, the clones were created for war and they had to take orders from teenagers.
So, as CrazyRedMando pointed out, The Republic Commando novels by Karen Traviss lets us see the darker side of the clone wars. 10/10 would recommend
Fantastic books that gave rise to one of my favourite squad FPS’s. Good shit, mate.
i hope you dont forget clonathons bacta addiction.
Bacta like the opioid epidemic of the star wars Galaxy.
War is rarely a conflict between ''good vs evil''. Instead, most of the time it functions as a ''scale of grays''.
The more darker the conflict becomes, better for the manipulations of the Sith. Sidious in that regard was a genius.
Right...
I found out that Hitler liked dogs! Therefore he is totally as good or evil as anyone. Not that liking dogs means good things for the people around him. And most people don't slaughter 11 million on the basis of paranoid racist bullshit. But I found a drop of white, which automatically makes up for an ocean of black! I'm a smart, tolererant, oh so above morality person!TM
@AHL Productions Even if fiction is rare to find pure good against pure evil.
@@adams13245 Depends on how you want to see it.
Outliers like Pong Krell, Anakin Slywalker, Count Dooku, and more...
I liked Karen Traviss' depiction of the Clones, and their interactions with their trainers, and sometimes, became like family with them. Unlike the Clone Wars series depiction, especially the Domino Squad.
It's the worlds that have sand on them
Wet sand is worse than regular sand.
Anakin Skywalker Lol.
Canada Eh? Lol.
Thanks for explaining how blasters work! A lot of my fellow nerds argue with me that its just boring Plasma! So frustrating
I thought it was plasma too. I was wrong.
Could you cover content on the Old Republic era wars (Mandalorian Wars, Jedi Civil War, Great Galactic War, Galactic War/SWTOR storylines etc).
It's honestly kind of a wonder that civilization managed to progress to the point that it has in the Star Wars Galaxy. It's like the place can barely go a decade without a galactic scale civil war. Sometimes TWICE in one decade. It's nuts.
@@thundercricket4634 probably why there's such little change technologically between KOTOR and the films.
Realistically, the number of Jedi that must've touched the dark side during the war was probably insane
You're wrong about blasters, they fire superheated plasma, it's not kinetic energy that does the damage like in the case of slug throwers
Knight ingale Not per the New Essential Guide to Weapons and Technology.
Don't they do damage by burning through armor and flesh untill they dissipate?
Saeid Radder Nah, they create heat through kinetic force that fucks up tissue
Anyone else got a big wave of nostalgia when they hear the * beeping * of the galaxy map from the first battlefront?
Idk, the mandalorian wars were pretty brutal
Same with the Great Galactic War and Galactic War.
Blake Gordon dame with the great hyperspace war
@@crafterchief3812 Eh, it only lasted like a year though and did more to the Sith rather than the Republic. From what I remember, at least.
Kroex but the sith were driven to near extinction
I got a mod for fallout 4 that turns synths into clones it’s amazing
Same
*After reading the title*
In my head:
*Younglings, younglings, younglings, younglings* !!!
Morale of the story. No matter which side you're on, prepare to murder civilians. Or their livelihood and everything they depend on for survival. It happened in fantasy, it happened in science fiction, and it happened in real life. At least I can feel better knowing that this particular case is just fictitious. Thanks for the upload~ also going to watch the clone wars series now~
Poor clones, there arguably my favorite characters, and the battle where the clones and droids used vibroblades reminded me of the book that Leela was reading on that episode of Futurama, "Greatest Machete Battles". Then Zap says: Turanga Leela!
love the fact that the clone in the back at 00:55 is basically holding a MG-42 (or MG-3 / MG-74, the modernized versions)
Clone Commando books:
[squints eyes] "Really?... your serious?"
This is a great video because it sums up the many details of star wars in a few bluntly honest words, emphasis on the word "honest." You should definitely do this again. God bless~
I'm writing a script for a Live-Action Clone Wars TV Show that will be far different than the original animated one. This means more battles, more story, more behind the scenes things that we never see in the films and TV Shows, and finally, points of view that aren't all from Characters like Annikan, Obi-Wan, Asoka, etc. This means that you'll get a lot more from the clones than you did in the Clone Wars. I'm working on the Pilot Episode which will tell three stories happening at the first Battle of Geonosis. I commented here since I know there are a lot of Star Wars fans here and I wanted to hear some input on the idea, recommendations, and maybe even some requests for episodes.
Ill give you your first idea. Two capital ships one republic one Confederate fighting it out like old pirate battles. A small group of clones is tasked the infiltrating the Confederate ship and sabotaging it from the inside. But they quickly find it wont be an easy task, most of the band dies with only a single clone setting the explosives before being shot by a large group of droids.
Accusation: Jedi were not very good generals.
Reality: With no other armies, Jedi were the only ones with any training in military history, tactics, and strategy available. They were the best available.
Accusation: Jedi treated their clones poorly.
Counter accusation: citation needed. If you bring up the Traviss as your only source, please get fucked. She also portrayed the Jedi as ineffective fighters more like space hippies.
Reality: With no armies available, combat logicians had to figure out even basic logistics from scratch. Kaminoans had a system that worked. The Republic had to use that until they figured a different and useable way.
Accusation: Blasters are bad...
Reality: Blasters were the standard weapon across the galaxy.
Thank you why do people shit on the Jedi for shit reasons like they had flaws but not the ones people consistently bring up
Yeah, I agree.
I think if the Jedi were a part of the actual military and worked with them rather than over them like how we see in the show, more battles would have been won, or at least been a bit more decisive.
Letting the Jedi Code get in the way of Vanilla Military tactics was the biggest mistake the republic could have made.
In rare cases, like with Plo Koon, Anakin, Obi-wan and a select few other Jedi, they would be able to effectively lead and it worked out well. Notice, these Jedi saw their clones as human beings, and actual people with personalities, and not just tools of war.
But even then, Anakin was constantly second guessing whether the Jedi Way was really the right way to win the war.
Remember what Tarkin had said that lead Anakin to say “Maybe he’s right. Maybe the Jedi Code keeps us from achieving victory in this war” or something along those lines.
You’ll find it at the end of the Citadel Arc, where Tarkin states if more Jedi were like Anakin, the Military structure and tactics wouldn’t be a complete shit show.
I also wonder how conscription didn't become a thing in the Clone Wars. Both sides had MASSIVE populaces to draw on, and I can't help but think that it would have likely been cheaper(At least for the Republic) to train existing people rather than grow them, then train and equip them.
To be fair, jedi like anakin also got better results for the fact that HE ACTUALLY LISTENED TO HIS SUBORDINATES! It seems more like a lot of the other jedi just do what they think is right and barely consult the men who trained for years to literally fight this war
Thunder Cricket
I imagine that most people didn’t want to fight, and the few who did would have joined and fought along clones.
I figure since clones are genetically engineered and enhanced, normal troops would get in the way, so they’d be separate battalions for them, and most people who got conscripted would be put in more defense positions than attack ones.
Archangel Azrael
Exactly. They trusted the force, but even then the Jedi who did often used it as an excuse to not really do anything.
It’s honestly ridiculous they’d get high command positions with very little experience and overall had no intent on winning most of the time, but instead just doing the bare minimum.
*Damn, Star wars is WAAY Darker then I remembered, and I actually read the comics and watched the shows! Also yes, more videos like this please!* ✌😁
Unlikely but would be phenomenal if cw season 7 delved deep into this dark reality of war
This was a really interesting take on the clone wars. I never really thought about the republic commitng these atrocities but i wasnt all that suprised that they did something. I never expected this much though this video was really enlightening thank you!!
just like the simulations
LEGO Clone Trooper
Execute Order 65
Sir yes sir.
It'd be nice to see more videos like this. Being more on the reality of the war and not propaganda from either side. Keep up the good work!
I love Rogue One.
and I'm sure as hell if the director did a movie about Clone Troopers who joined the Rebellion fighting Clone Troopers who stayed in the Empire would be fking amazing. It should end with Rex leading his squad of Rebel Commandos and Rebel Clone Troopers vs Cody and his Dark Troopers. the climax would be a knife fight between the two as Vode An plays in the background.
Ew.
Yeah this is kinda weird.
What most people don't understand, is that conflict and violence are stepping stones on the path of the Dark Side. The effect they have on the mind, emotions, and will of the Jedi that joined the war, was utterly intoxicating. The more they used their abilities for the purpose of war and destruction, the more tempting that use became. To excel in the indulgence of such power, was to guarantee their inevitable fall. Simply participating in the war, ultimately doomed them to Darkness. They couldn't see their own downfall, because they were blinded by their own corruption.
The Force is neutral. Darkness and Light belong only to the wielder. You can either surrender yourself to the Will of the Force, or you can make It surrender to your own. Either way...the Force responds to the Will of the user.
"There are heroes on both sides, evil is everywhere"
- Revenge of the Sith
Whenever I played bf2 and see actual squads that colored out as wolf, star corps, 501st. I love seeing diff platoons in the game working together especially when star Corp's show up at khashk(I forgot how to spell it but the wookie homeland)
It's really weird actually that the Republic and jedi are treated like the good guys in The Clone Wars: they use a slave army built by eugenicists.
It's also very condemning of the jedi order that they go along with the Republic using a slave army.
I find the lore interesting, and I enjoy The Clone Wars TV series, but some of the lore (mainly in the prequel trilogy) seems really badly thought out. For example the original concept of Clone Wars being against clones makes far more sense than the canon.
I actually like that both sides are terrible. It’s a lot more realistic.
9:42 So we're just not gonna talk about the fact that one of the clones is carrying an M294 SAW in his hands in this image?
After hearing all of the shit the clones had to deal with having the suppression chips be the reason they killed the Jedi is so empty and cheap
Found your channel through generation tech, looks like I will be binge watching your channel while gaming today!
Where could one get a high quality version of that General Kenobi shield image?
Makani DeMoulin google
Found an animated wallpaper version in the Wallpaper Engine workshop.
I personally loved the Republic Commando series, which did cover some of the atrocities the Commandos experienced due to poor leadership. 10k Republic Commandoes were on Geonosis, only 5k came back. Clones who were "unstable" held up barracks and refused to come out in fear of being iced. Black ops soldiers chased after rouge ARC troopers (the original 100).
“Many [Jedi] saw their Clones as little more than living droids”
Not my bois!
Great Video. I really do wish they had showed us things like this in the various shows. You pretty much have to crack open the novels and comics to learn this stuff. It is still present as a underlying theme sometimes, though often just not focued on.
Love your videos keep up the good work ❤️
*Billions of civilian lives lost planets left uninhabitable*
The Republic and “the senate”: “Oh noo..anyways.”
THREE YEARS?!! WTF I THOUGHT IT LASTED A DOZEN YEARS
I watch this channel like a podcast in my truck. I drive all day for my work. The more long format And descriptive the better in my book.
I really like seeing the darker side of Star Wars.
I love how the segments are horrible atrocities and civillian deaths, but the music is happy techno music.
The clone wars was a pleasant conflict.
Me - 2019
Mace Windu: "We're keepers of the peace Not soldiers"
Palpatine "Do I look like I give a fuck?"
It may be true very true but that didnt mean i still had fun mudering droids
Is that Captain Mifune as a clone trooper on the thumbnail? Damn...
I'd love a trilogy of a show about the Sith in hiding during the high republic age. If I made it, it would feature the Sith as the protagonists and not paint them as entirely evil. The Jedi could be shown as a bit more brutal organization as we've previously seen.
It would have a wise Sith lord who takes a new apprentice and teaches him about the corrupt society of the Jedi. It would be cool to also see a younger and less experienced Yoda, maybe not yet a master. Maybe even a bit arrogant.
Star Wars has always been told from the perspective of the Jedi and thus, made them look like the good guys and the Sith like the bad guys. Everyone always forget how the Jedi and the Sith are two extremes and not simply good and evil.
War never is a black and white subject, excellent video exploring a very unexplored side of the star wars universe
Why is a matrix character in the clone picture Captain Mifune (Matrix Revolutions)pretty funny i noticed..
Nobody:
Not a single soul in the galaxy:
Wolffe at 9:38: *holding m249*
Order 66 was originally supposed to be executed because the Clones hated Jedi so much because of their recklessness. There was even a cut out scene in RoTS where the clone executed a Jedi on Felucia with an ATTE and then stepped on her limp body with it.
Ayla Securas cut death scene yeah
This is exactly why the clones are the most badass army in star wars
Did the thumbnail really use that guy from Matrix 3
Zach Lloyd I thought the exact same thing
I looked it up, his name is Nathan Lees, he played Mifune.
That moment when you realize the clone wars was just 2 gangs beefing out in public. 😂
The Clone Wars were a pleasant conflict.
There. I said it.
Yeah, not a single planet got evaporated by a giant superweapon. That alone makes it tame compared to other Galactic wars.
Umbara, Siege of Mandalore, Maul, Dathomir Decimation, and Fives discovering Order 66 were all dark
He fly through air
He has good hair
But most importantly
He say hello there
Lest see obi wan a Star Wars story
I'm liking the new format. Provided you mix and match this with the old one
The clone wars 2008 was created especially for those babies who like Thundercats Roar.
roaaaarrr
Lighter depiction like star wars the clone wars
*War crimes intensifies*
Step one of being a TH-camr, say ”Us” when referring to yourself to make it seem like more then just you worked on the video.
This is a great video showcasing a topic that kinda gets swept under the rug sometimes when people talk about Star Wars. I feel this dynamic--that both sides condoned and created atrocities, with their troopers and civilians caught in the crossfire--is what makes the Clone Wars era so incredibly interesting to me. :) I think what it says about war, whether wars of the past or future, is really on the head and important. I know 'technically' it's not canon but the Dark Horse Clone Wars comics (see "The Best Blades" and "Battle for Jabiim") showcase some great examples of some really severe lapses in intel and preparation that caused major ripples in the history of the Star Wars universe.
[spoilers if you haven't read those books yet] The Battle of Merson literally entailed every single Republic trooper and Jedi onworld were killed within the first day of fighting as the CIS army was revealed to be too vast and entrenched for them. Jabiim's battle ended with the pocket of Republic survivors literally being evacuated from the planet, leaving their Jabiimese supporters left to fend for themselves. I think the battle of Jabiim featured the second most number of Jedi killed in action during a single campaign in any of the Clone Wars battles (second to the first battle of Geonosis). [end of spoilers]
And these failed campaigns are just Palpatine's machinations, your point that many of the Jedi were dispassionate toward their troops is exactly right. When it came to sowing distrust, frustration, and even hatred among their troops and their civilian supporters Palpatine barely had to lift a finger. There were so many Jedi that were content to brush aside their lack of experience and subsequent casualties/failures as to not be affected emotionally, and to maintain their dignified rank.
i love the amazing pics to shoe for the clones like the one in 5:36 great video thanks
That instant action intro earned you a subscriber off the bat. Nostalgia sells