Major League Baseball's ownership conundrum

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    Today's episode is devoted to Major League Baseball Ownership's boys club!
    What do John Fisher, Arte Moreno, and Jerry Reinsdorf have in common? Well, they all have created losing organizations through their own combinations of greed, hubris, and ineptitude.
    Lets discuss.
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  • @J.robertfrick
    @J.robertfrick 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Baseball podcast great. Thanks Trevor. Please write a book and get on a membership schedule. I’m asking you to take my money bro 😆

  • @Kragaar
    @Kragaar 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    A term for these owners that you're looking for is the Dunning-Kruger effect, someone is successful in one area so they figure they're an expert in all areas, even ones where they have little or no knowledge is one of the ways it presents

    • @stevenporter863
      @stevenporter863 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thinking the exact same thing .

  • @andrewaaberg482
    @andrewaaberg482 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Owners: "We're so wealthy but I'm still pretty upset that I dont' have ALL the money. Is there anything to be done?"
    John Fischer: "Have you tried extortion?"
    The Pohlads: "Better than extortion! Just rip money outta your franchise! The fans are stupid, they'll believe your excuses!"

  • @erindunaway9381
    @erindunaway9381 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Well said. It would be fun to see fan bases vote every four years to keep the current owner or force them to sell.

    • @stevenporter863
      @stevenporter863 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I see your point, but unless the fans can come up with a premium to the fair market value of the team they can't force someone to sell what they own. It is like forcing someone to sell a stock if some arbitrary level is met.

  • @moredeadweight9794
    @moredeadweight9794 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So John Fisher owns the Athletics, The San Jose Earthquake MLS Soccer Team and apparently a Professional Bull Riders team called the Texas Rattlers. He apparently even attends Earthquakes games in the stands. He's living in his deceased father's shadow and for him everything is about the finances. His one brother runs The Gap (since essentially 1990) and his other brother is a Hedge Fund Manager. All 3 brothers received their BA from Princeton and their MA from Stanford.

  • @concretebuilding
    @concretebuilding 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Reinsdorf had the Sox since the 80s, before he even took ownership of the Bulls.

  • @jordanmiller8541
    @jordanmiller8541 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Sell a used car for a few bucks after you buy a garage. Or give that car a new paint job paid for by someone else and put it in a reserved spot and hope to make a little more.

  • @jfredq
    @jfredq 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You're much too kind to Arte Moreno. And he sure wasn't kind to the little people who made the stadium work under Disney and Autry. A lot of those people had 2nd jobs there and were basically Angel fans who loved being around the game. They weren't doing it for the money. But Arte could put more money in his own pocket by firing them and hiring cheaper. Some were the customer service people who were on a first name basis with the season ticket holders. Arte is greedy, and if you lived near Anaheim you heard a lot of these stories from your friends and neighbors.

    • @TrevorMayBaseball
      @TrevorMayBaseball  7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Man, all of that considered, I really was a little too easy on him. This might need to be a documentary project sometime in the future!

  • @valeriekeefe8898
    @valeriekeefe8898 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    2:55 No, the White Sox are NOT the worst team in modern mlb history. The '62 Mets are still worse. 40-120-1 < 41-121

  • @michaelleroy9281
    @michaelleroy9281 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    JR in Chicago is the worst owner in the history of the game

  • @rapalbumdepot7648
    @rapalbumdepot7648 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Mariners need to get it together and I feel they are being destroyed by terrible owners just like Athletics

    • @alarrim29574
      @alarrim29574 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Atleast the mariners consistent get good players for a couple years by developing through the farm before they leave via trade for money reasons or free agency for money reasons

  • @stevenporter863
    @stevenporter863 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I understand what he is saying and the Oakland owner may not have a great bedside manner or great timing: but like the other comment noted it is their money and they own the team. There is no stipulation an owner must be a fan above money, they are businessmen.
    We think of team owners of the past as better, but some underpaid players (one reason there is free agency today) and some even made players wash their own uniforms. We just didn't have as good news coverage or the internet then.

    • @moredeadweight9794
      @moredeadweight9794 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      But wouldn't you say that Professional Sports Team owners are essentially owners of a Entertainment Company? You don't just make an investment buying a team, you invest in your community. John just maxes out his political donations because he loves government kickbacks. He's the type that may be valued at 3 Billion dollars but all the paintings in his house are fakes or prints.

  • @voidhelix99
    @voidhelix99 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dude the NFL can be competed with by the XFL? MLB has bigger competition from MiLB.....

    • @sunny1992s
      @sunny1992s 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      MiLB isn't direct competition since a team like the Frisco Roughriders benefits the Texas Rangers in terms of talent and revenue(if lucky).

    • @voidhelix99
      @voidhelix99 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That's not how competition works. Both the minors and majors play the same season. And same game. If you're at a minor league game, ur not at a major league game. Ergo conpetition. ​@sunny1992s

    • @thunderhammerx2966
      @thunderhammerx2966 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@voidhelix99all of the milb teams are in different mostly smaller cities and are extensions of a major league club. Attending an milb is attending an mlb game, but with draft picks and random free agents.

  • @valeriekeefe8898
    @valeriekeefe8898 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    8:18 and, according to CIA plants, all the women at the Stonwall riot, who helped propel the miracle Mets to their '69 world series, also dudes. Transfeminists like me know better.

  • @valeriekeefe8898
    @valeriekeefe8898 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Trevor May and Trevor Bauer... Were they separated in a transporter accident?

    • @andrewaaberg482
      @andrewaaberg482 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Trevor May is a decent human and a decent pitcher while Bauer is just a turd with talent. The only similarities are name and profession.

    • @andrewaaberg482
      @andrewaaberg482 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Profession being former MLB pitcher lmfao

    • @vewaddell
      @vewaddell 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Equating someone to Trevor Bauer is an insult.

  • @ModernCowboy78
    @ModernCowboy78 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    As much as we all want these owners to do better we have to remember it's their team their money and they can do what they want.

    • @SkanMLL
      @SkanMLL 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Because penny pinching has always made a better product. Then when baseball is down to just 2 teams that compete we can just throw up our hands and be like "no idea how this happened"

    • @ModernCowboy78
      @ModernCowboy78 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@SkanMLL that's life man. Baseball has always been this way. Remember the Red Sox sold Babe Ruth to save money lol and as much as we hate it we don't own the teams.

    • @SkanMLL
      @SkanMLL 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ModernCowboy78 Sure, so, then just lay back, keep your mouth shut and take it like a good little boy?

    • @jordanmiller8541
      @jordanmiller8541 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      The united states baseball system needs lessons from the New Zealand Rugby Strategy.

    • @JonasNamensen
      @JonasNamensen 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Bullshit, the amount of public funding that have gotten them where they are, absolutely means they are open to legitimate scrutiny.

  • @vewaddell
    @vewaddell 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    MLB needs relegation! Threaten those greedy ass owners who put profit before wins with demotion to AAA.