Julian Edelman and Ty Law Breakdown Manning and Brady's First Playoff Duel | 2003 AFC Championship
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- Ty Law is in studio! This was supposed to be our 50th episode, but it's so fire we had to drop it a couple weeks early. We're breaking down the 2003 AFC Championship between the Indianapolis Colts and the New England Patriots.
00:00 Intro
3:34 Ty Law Joins the Show
11:57 Reviewing "The Dynasty"
17:11 Brady's Development
21:37 Jogging to Practice Every Day
24:58 Contagious Competition
29:04 Belichick Was the Law
42:20 Patriots Coaching Changes
49:56 Nobody Prepared Like the Patriots
59:01 Walking Away from the Game
1:02:50 Playing Against Legends
1:07:47 Matching Deion's Contract
1:12:23 Adapting to Today's Game
1:22:42 On This Date
1:34:21 Setting the Stage
1:42:22 Preparing for the Super Bowl
1:46:09 Lawyer Milloy and Rodney Harrison
1:50:17 Unsung Heroes
1:55:03 Snow in Foxborough
2:00:45 Super Bowl Pick Six
2:27:16 Score the Game
2:31:37 Wrapping Up
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What's the first non-Super Bowl Patriots game that comes to your head when you think about the dynasty?
2018 AFC Championship Game
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Undefeated year..Moss
2018 AFC Championship Game at Kansas City.
Tuck Rule game 😢
Raiders snow
Ty Law is a total class act, my father worked for a big sized limo company out of Boston and drove Ty a bunch of times, they hit it off and when my father went on his own and started his own independent contractor car service and Ty Law left the big company and became one of my fathers first exclusive clients. Ty used my fathers service for years even after leaving the New England Patriots. He put alot of food on our table over the years.
He was very loyal to my Dad and helped his business grow. He was so cool & loyal he showed up to my fathers wake when he passed away at only 59. He brought his children & his mother. What a total show of respect & class in my eyes. It meant everything to me & my mother when we saw him & his family walk in. My father always said Tys mom was one his favorite people to drive. He took her to the casinos a couple of times a year.
If Jules or the crew see this comment please pass this on to Ty i would love to tell him my gratitude.
I know for a fact he remembers Big Moe
Oh wow. What an incredible peek behind the curtain for the rest us to learn that even behind the scenes…Ty Law carried himself w/ the utmost integrity.
Sounds like a man who was respectful, loyal and just the epitome of class. A true gentleman.
My sincere thanks for sharing your experience. That insight is just priceless! Condolences on the loss of your pops. It’ll be 10 yrs in July that we lost my father at the 57. Too soon. But hopefully these days…they never miss a game
Wow, awesome story thanks for sharing and my condolences to you and your family. ❤️🩹
I hope they see your comment and let Ty Law know. Thanks for sharing and may your father rest peacefully. 💯🙏🏾❤️
Love to hear this. A true gentleman.
These episodes are fantastic. This is way better than watching The Dynasty. Thanks for all the memories guys.
It's so much better. It's like an f u to the documentary.
@@MikeySkywalker I'd love to know just how many players and hours of info that piece
of shit left unused in order to produce that hack job?
@@S_67FI haven’t watched it yet…what is so bad about it? Did they shit on bill and try to make him look bad or what?
@@jdt9177 The documentary looks at the 'major' storylines that occurred always through a bad Bill view. Also, it's a crap on all the players who were part of that dynasty because it really is the Tom, Aaron, Krafts and terrible Bill story. I think this one instance the book may be better.
no joke it really is better
Ty Law one of the most underrated! Great get! Also I think we all agree: Marshawn on this show would be incredible. if there’s any way to make this happen, the people demand Marshawn!!
I like podcasts with people that actually speak English, so no thanks.
@@ateam137hating for no reason shut up
@@ateam137 that’s weird! I’ve never heard him speak other languages, or had a hard time understanding his English? I’m talking about marshawn lynch the American football player, he used to play for the Seahawks. Might be another guy with that name idk
It's amazing how people throw around the word underrated, without actually knowing the meaning of the word. He's a Patriots Hall of Famer. Oh, yeah... He's also an NFL Hall of Famer. So, what is this underrated status that you speak of?
@@edwoll my bad I should have been more specific: underrated in the mainstream Sports Talk dumbass world, the people who really know what’s up give him his respect.
I grew up a Pats dynasty hater honestly but all the people Edelman has brought on has made me like them more and more by every interview
Big same
Dude same. They're super interesing
lmfao welcome to the party pal.
My favorite team as a kid was the rams..Kurt Warner, Faulk, holt and Bruce. The pats beat em in the Super Bowl and it made me hate the pats for a while. Lol
Same I remember as a kid calling that defense with lawyer and law the justice department as a kid wild how much respect I have for these guys now I used to hate em lol
Dont get me wrong, Edelman has had some stellar guests. This episode is hands down the best one yet. The insight, the articulation. Listen, I played NFL 2k5 with the 2004 Patriots, Ty Law was my favorite Patriot next to Rodney in that era. Ty Laws energy to this day is among the best. I cannot compliment this Pod further. Good work 11 for having this man on.
I had to law on like 5 different teams in that game in the past few years. Nobody can beat in nfl 2k5
Looks like I'm breaking the ole ps2 out and knocking the dust off to play that game.
What was your gamertag?
Ty Law is as exceptional at giving interviews as he was at defending Hall of Famers.
Though I’m not a Pats fan, Mr Law was always a personal favorite - an absolute joy to watch. Just a smart, tough, crafty veteran. A true master of his craft. Tremendous respect to the great Ty Law!
Agree with your assessment of Ty Law. As a Pats fan, when Ty left for the Jets after NY offered him a lucrative free agent offer, most Pats fans I know didn't blame Ty for doing what he did, as NFL players have a finite shelf life, so if some team is gonna throw a big load of cash their way, they'd be foolish to NOT take the $$. Besides, Ty already did his best work during the first half of the Pats' dynasty (first 3 Superbowls), and he also played 10 years for New England, so I personally couldn't blame him at all for maximizing his income opportunities elsewhere (Jets, Denver, KC).
But getting back to Ty as a man, he's just a great guy. He's a great interview, be it on podcasts like this, or on local sports radio segments (on WEEI in Boston), he tells it like it is, and he's also funny. Ty maybe didn't have the blazing speed of CBs like Darrell Green or Deion Sanders, but he was a very physical, great all-around player who had a penchant for making BIG plays.
Been a fan of the patriots since 96…when I was 9 years old…ty is my all time favorite patriots player…I know exactly what I was doing during this afc championship game…helping to renovate my parents house…broke a hole in the wall so I could watch the game while helping to renovate…haha
Love seeing Edelman bringing all the legends back after that terrible documentary. Lets hear how it really was from the guys in the locker room, not a billionaire's production company.
I feel like you get the real unfiltered view here because I thought Ernie Adams did a great job in the documentary explaining everything but here he’s basically not giving a fuck cussing having a good time and I will say this though Ty Law comes off great in the documentary & even more awesome here with all the drinking!
Earnie episode was a legendary one
And Bill was an Asshole cutthroat GM lol A LOT almost everyone even Tom didn’t get paid-paid everyone took a paycut you have to maximum your salary cap space
Sorry, I’m not familiar with this. What documentary are you referring to?
@@tommythevenot7617 we don't mention that drivel by name around here, tyvm
I like how he looks back at the guys behind the table . Makes them feel engaged in the conversation
Damn, Ty Law ran 5 miles everyday to work. Dude trained like a professional boxer.. Respect.
Ty law is a complete class act.
My father worked for a limo company and drove Ty a couple of times and they hit it off, my father eventually started his own car service, w/a limo, an SUV & a town car, nothing major just him and one employee, & Ty left the big Boston based company my father worked for to become a full time client of my father's little operation . Ty was loyal as hell to my Dad and put a lot of food on our table because of it. He even brought his mother & children with him to my father's Wake & Funeral when my Dad passed away at 58.
If by any chance he gets to read this I hope he knows how much that meant to my mother & I.
Thanks Ty
@@moriordan85 Awesome recollection!
My late brother and I were at this game we grew up in Rhode Island and followed the Patriots since the 1970’s. Attended every game we could Great memories from the snow game that lead to the Pats first Super Bowl win.What great teams we had and players! Thank You to the champion Patriots! From Ty Law to the best QB in history Pats number one forever,
I've been a patriots fan since the first superbowl as a kid and these interviews have been as much fun as many patriots wins. Just great to hear from people after years of pretty much silence.
Ty Law is one of the greatest patriots ever! I been a fan since birth in 1974! My entire family are die hard Pats fans . Mr. Law was and is a class act. A man amongst men. Thanks for this pod Julian.
The fact that this and Slate's episode have "The Player's Dynasty" as an addendum to the thumbnail title is just the perfect middle finger to that Apple series
This one was awesome!!! Please get Rodney on to talk about ANY of the 2004 playoff games! He definitely deserves to be in the hall, the lightning Rod!
top 3 episodes of all time. Ty Law will live forever in NE. LAW. DAWG.
Get my man Kevin Faulk on. Mr. Reliable. Mr. 3rd Down.
Ty Law is my favorite fb player of all time. I was depressed when he was let go from the Patriots.. So glad this is your 50th show, Jules. Perfect guest for it
Ty Law should've been in the HOF as soon as he was eligible. You can't talk about Peyton without Manning's best receiver AND the rule change.
"You wanna change the rules? Change them. We still play. And we win. That's what we do." -Tedy B
And I'm glad you spoke about Tom. These young people don't understand Tom wasn't Tom MF Brady out the gate. Speak on it, fellas
@@grandlady6442this can be said about a lot of QBs, though. He clearly says that by 2003, he was Tom Mfin Brady.
@aaronjackson9385 Ty Law also said they were the #1 or 2 D. And said, "Defense wins championships." Which was the mantra for the first 3 SB wins. The D was killing it. Ty said he told Tom, "We set you up. Don't blow it."
@@grandlady6442 perception is powerful. The 01 Pats were 6th in scoring offense and 6th in scoring defense. 04, they were 4th in scoring offense and 2nd in scoring defense..it was only lopsided in 2003. Where it was 12th in scoring offense and 1st in scoring defense. He was still 3rd in MVP voting that year and dropped 32 pts to beat Carolina in a SB shootout. The defense was the better unit, but there was not some great disparity. Teams like the 2000 Ravens and 2015 Broncos, however, do fit that bill. In 2002, the offense ranked higher, while the defense was below average. They still missed the division title by a tiebreaker. Thats with Brady playing the last five games with a separated shoulder. Whats also not mentioned is how cold weather hinders offense and helps the defense. That def plays a role in team ranks. Manning lit the Pats up in the dome for 34 pts in 2003. Lit them up in the 2006 AFC title game and the 2009 SNF game, all in the dome. I love Ty, as a player and I listen to him on WEEI all throughout the season. Youre trying to apply what he said about 2001 to the entire run. In SB38, he didnt tell Rodney Harrison not to worry because Brady was told just not to lose the game.
@aaronjackson9385 is that when when the Colts changed conferences? So they could play against teams they could dominate? I remember the Ravens always playing defensively strong, like the Steelers. Making their opponents' D tired by mid 3rd. I don't remember much about Broncos, except them doing well because of Lynch.
I'm not much of a stats or numbers person. For example, when you see the stats on Mahomes when he's run for such in such. But you watched the games. And saw that if they called 3 holds, Mahomes wouldn't have those yards (like they did in games KC lost). And all the blatant holds on Judon. The no-calls Gronk had to put up with.... stats can't be accurate in the NFL.
I'd just rather go by what I've seen. So, I guess you're right about perception.
Haven’t seen Dynasty yet - I probably will at some point. But feel like Games With Names is the place to be if you wanna hear the real story from the players.
Ty Law, King Julian, Mike Haynes, Willie and Sam “the Bam” All time faves. Fan since 75! Big time CLUTCH players! Keep up the great shows brother. Love ‘em man!
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Jules. Love these guests. I'm a hardcore Titans fan, but have always followed you and rooted from afar. These pods are killlllling. Keep it up!
If I had a list of my five greatest patriots Ty Law is definitely on there near the top after starting to watch them in the 90s like 95/96 to present!
As a pats fans these episodes with former staff and players are priceless.
Edelnutts podacast is fire af...im so happy for him..dude is legit af..hes a mans man❤
I agree. But I wish he wouldn’t cross his legs when he’s sitting. It just looks a tiny bit effeminate, which is not Edelman at all.
@@tommythevenot7617 who hurt you?
@@gregfaircloth6440 ha ha! I know, it’s so petty of me. But hey, it’s the comment section.
It's nothing against Sam - he's a great comedian, but this format being purely sports dudes talking sports in this conversational setting is working SO WELL. This, the Ernie episode, man. Do this. Keep doing this.
Ty is a bad dude, tough as nails.
Ty Law! Man, he was a legend at Michigan and in the NFL.
What a hype episode
The part where he talks about liking your coaches had me in tears. I hated my high school coach because he rode us so hard and demanded absolute perfection out of us, there was a running joke from my friends that played for other schools that our football team could beat their track team because we ran so much. But at the end of it I had 4 district championships, 3 straight state championships and was 2 time all state, my college DC was the greatest coach I ever had and he grilled us daily on what we were fucken up on, what we needed to do better, he watched more film on us than we ever did, but he had us so locked in and prepared to go out there and dominate that it was crazy. We were ranked top 10 in the country for D1AA (FCS) at the end of my junior year. Top 3 pass defense , and top 8-12 in every other category defensively. There was a stretch for 3 weeks we outscored our offense and we won 2 of those games. Meetings upon meetings, upon individual position meetings, defensive meetings, he'd sit in on all the special teams meetings as well. And he demanded the best out of us and we gave it to him because we seen the love he had for the game and for us. He demanded the best and he gave back brutal honesty and his best everyday. I've never told very many people this but him and my DLine coach in college who I still call at least once a week to this day, now 9 years since I graduated saved my life and believed in me when everyone else counted me out. I was a fuxk up to start my college career, even though I was good enough to start as a freshman at DT I was constantly fucking up. They called me into the office one day during spring going into my sophomore year and had like a 2 hour talk with me. I was going through alcohol problems, issues with this girl I was dating we had recently broke up, I was 5000 miles away from home, failing out of school and on the verge of being sent home and loosing my scholarship. They took me in and showed that they cared for me and loved me, they made sure I went to every class, my DLine coach waited for me at every class and if he wasn't there I had to face time him or my DC while walking into class and saying hi to my professor, they had a syllabus and made sure I did every assignment, they knew I loved football and that aspect they didn't have to worry about but they knew I needed the guidance to become a man. They got me into some guidance classes and even attended some with me, they saved my life and I am forever grateful for them. Love you Coach Benzel and Coach Plug y'all will forever be the realest.
Ty law was one of the greatest cb to play in my time. Keep rocking out the solid videos. Watching from Maine.
🔥 One nibble everyone knows the laws.
Troy Brown...a forgotten name sometimes when the dynasty is mentioned. I used to call him the black hole, if the ball was near, he'd suck it in, and so CLUTCH....Rodney belongs in the hall....go to Ty's trampoline park in RI! They're great!
I met Julian twice... I looked up to him so much when I first met hum it was crazy to find out we were the same age... I feel like I grew up with him in a way... just growing up in New England and hearing his name every day. He didn't understand how much he meant to us in the beginning... because he built his success over time. But when it all came together it was epic... I'm glad to see him doing this and New England knows the debt owed to him. Thnx Jules.
The lawyer and the law...what a secondary back in
the day..
The law firm
Wild take but hes my favorite player all time. I grew up watching him as a patriot. My nickname was Tylaw growing up. Dudes such a stud and so humble. Hall of famer
Great Stuff, Gotta love Ty. Keep this Great show rolling!!!
great conversation guys! Ty is so down to earth - he was an unbelievable player 👏👏
Guys, best new podcast around. Love every drop !
God Damn! Juian, you da man! IMO Your podcast is the best, topping new heights, the r and r, the pivot, JRE, pat mcaffe... the only podcast I would put above is the monday morning podcast with bill burr, which btw I think you need to bring him and do one, dude lives in LA
Thank you so much for having him on!! As a lifelong Pats fan, he’s my all-time favourite player, but we don’t get to hear from him enough 😊
Matt and shane and Julian edelman are the only people i religiously watch every week and would just watch em talk 😂😂😂
Absolutely love the days of Ty Law!!!
You've mentioned before how were good buddies with some of the bruins, you should try and get more hockey players on
I love the loyalty to coach BB❤…
they put out what they want . It’s a hate peace for coach .
Amen 🙏🏼 ❤
Still have my Ty law jersey out of all my pats jerseys I find myself wearing that one the most. 90s baby 2000s kid
Fantastic pod ! Love this episode
Great episode!
Met Ty Law last year , that’s a genuine guy right there.
Ty was my first favorite football player. First jersey I ever owned as a lil kid. This was a joy, thank you Jules & Co.
Another great episode, great job boyzzz
Great episode to listen to the lessons taught and learned from other player/coaches and for him to reflect on them that he can understand that’s what they were doing , instead of being bitter
Its such a dope format. Diggin this channel lately
Another great episode!
Just a couple dawgs barkin bout days passed. Keep it up champ. Off season is hard for us all. I appreciate you for talking ball in April ❤ shot time.
This pod is gold baby!
Ty Law is my new favorite football player.
We love you Edelnut..killer podcast man, awesome guests, keep up the great work amigo.
Great episode. 🎉
For Ty to sign and get the big money, and still work his ass off to not let his teammates down, is really special.
Patriots are just different.
Loved watching you Julian!! Your podcast is awesome!
Love this ep , Ty Law a real one 💯
The way he said “Aaron Hernandez killed somebody “ 😂😂😂 wasn’t expecting that
This is the interview I’ve been waiting a decade for
past few weeks have been the chiller version of The Dynasty. With way more new insight and info.
Another great show. 👍
This podcast is getting better and better. Guests like this feel like the bread and butter
man, this podcast is always great!
Aye love the kicks Jules and ty!
These interviews with Ex players help me see why we were a twenty-year dynasty!
I love the chemistry between Juelz and Ty. Bring him back often as a guest host
Man I love this show. Big fan of Edelman and watched him on the Maxx Crosby podcast as well. Great content.
Yeah that was a good one
Love this so much. Ty Law seems so cool. Love to have a drink woth him. To of the best Pats ever. Great show
Being from Michigan, Ty Law and Tom Brady made me become Patriots fans growing up
The patriots were the smartest teams. This interview (and many others) prove the high level of football intelligence that was present on those teams. Great show Julian and Ty! I enjoyed every second of the dynasty, knowing that it was special and never be repeated. Thanks for all the awesome memories.
Love how Ty Law is a class act and outstanding human being on and off the field but at the same time he was AGGRESSIVE with his gameplay and was a DAWG on the field and gave that “I WANT TO WIN” energy any chance he got. Love that. People forget there needs to be a go get it and stand your ground when playing against NFL players
I love seeing all the old Patriots on here. Thx Jewls!!
No question the best conversation to date. My favorite db(s) have always been between ty law and charles woodson, and this just made me respect bro so much more. And as a sailor, im more of a rum man myself, but im definitely supporting the vodka.
Damn what do we gotta do to get ya’ll more views! Keep grinding fellas
Love the content!
Another legendary one
Hey Jules, I’m loving the podcast, bro. You were on New Heights completely sparked my interest again
I love how much Jules us a total fucking patriot for life. Always in full gear all in on the pats. Love it.
Just F'ing great episode!
At 😅😮😢😮y😢😢😢😢 2:00:48
Hey Jules, Michael from Austria here.
As American Football wasn't very popular when I grew up, you rearly saw any games on the tv.
One of the first games I saw was the 2009 Superbowl: AZ Cardinals vs. PB Steelers, with the amazing Larry Fitzgerald.
This Game really made me fall in love with this sport!
Another Pats Game I remember very well was the Regular Season Saints@Patriots Game in 2013.
58:00 I also had Jules for SB MVP. 44:1 odds, but I only bet $1. Ty and I got something in common! Watching the NFC championship game, I knew the Rams wouldn't be able to cover him. Highlight of my day right here.
What Ty is trying to say is Vrabel is a habitual line stepper...
I'm glad I grew up watching these dudes for real. Definitely more fun to watch and the sense that the referees weren't part of the game. You really saw people getting hit. Even quarterbacks!!
I really love how players understand it’s war on the field but can have a brew after and enjoy each other
I played against Aliquippa growing up and had the honor to play at the Pit. We all heard the Ty Law allure stories here in Beaver County. I actually played against Revis his senior year in 2003, he had one of the most epic performances to beat us in the final minutes. Will never forget that! S/O Aliquippa and Beaver County!
I love this podcast
I remember learning about football from playing Madden and there was always this guy named Ty Law who was 99 overall every year. Crazy underrated career
Such a great YT channel.
Aye this podcast really fye🔥
The Scoring of these games needs an oversight committee
Sheriff answers to the law was 🔥
Ty Law...what a dawg!!
Listening to Ty is like listening to your uncle. Real and still on point.
Good assessment of Lawyer
Jules
You the man brother
My favorite sports podcast.
Get Marino on!!!
Evenr though he lost only Super Bowl
Ty law is hilarious 😂 I love this
Hopefully we can get Sam back eventually, love your chemistry and his insight on the dynasty doc would be interesting
Been waiting for this one!! Ty is easily one of my favorite Patriots of all time.. He was unbelievably underrated as an elite corner but in my mind he was right there with Champ and Woodson in his era.. anyone who played him would tell you he was an all time corner that could do it all at a high level.. He was an extremely solid tackler that was never afraid of contact like a lot of corners, he would come up and really hit people. Could play man or zone, but jamming and being physical he was especially good at.. Which is why they played the Rams so well in that super bowl, and then jn this game causing the NFL to chnage the rules on contact!!😂 He didn't have the top end speed the best elite corners had but he made up for it with all time great on field intelligence at the position.. His defensive IQ was off the charts.. Which is why he was able to take picks to the house on a bum leg because he just knew where to be based on what the offense was trying to do.. I'll never forget this game against Indy where he shut down an all time great WR for an entire AFC championship, ending up with as many catches as Marvin Harrison did! 3 INTs to Harrisons 3 catches.. for 19 YARDS. Smh. Deion Sanders after said this was one of the greatest performances ever by a corner in the playoffs.. Marvin and Peyton were destroying defenses all year long but they didn't meet THE LAW!!!! If any one corner in the history of the NFL had Peytons number, it was Ty. He picked him off more than any other player did.. And that shows how smart he had to be out there smh.. Retire #24 already and pay respect to the best corner to ever play for the Pats!!