Ukraine could use F-16s in major counteroffensive in 2025 | Lord Dannatt
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- “There is a chance that a major counteroffensive with a beefed up set of Ukrainian forces, perhaps with F-16s available by that stage.”
Ukraine could launch a new counter-offensive in 2025 with its new Western weapons, says Lord Dannatt, former head of the British Army.
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For disgracefulness, you may look no further than
'Moscow Marge'.
Americans don't have to support freeloaders around the Globe and risk lifes of their children and grandchildren for morons.
Let's also not forget Mike Johnson is a disgraceful excuse for a human too. Blood on his hands and all of the MAGA
Just look what the “ SEA-BABIES “ has done in the Black Sea and the Ukrainians just threw those drones together, although Ukraine has always had a knack for producing innovative weapons systems since Soviet times .Most of their Nuclear Weapons were further developed in Ukraine and they manufactured a lot of arms. So Ukraine should never be underestimated. They seem to have the know how on how to get the job done . Going from buying cheap , inexpensive Chinese drones because they knew no other way , to 2 years later only hanging on, in their own ability to developing advanced drone technologies and producing over a million drones a year in their second year , is absolutely amazing .
Had they depended on arms from the West , there wouldn’t be a UAF left !!!!
They got played
It’s a land war 😂 😂😂
@@darrenpowell7225 Not entirely. Russia cannot keep Crimea without controlling the Black Sea.
Soviets engineers Russians are the best in sure they can develop a more sophisticated sea drones than the Ukraine remember we are talking about people who develop the sea monster plane / Caspian sea monster
@@Germa4945 I'm sure Russia engineers are wiser than you their iq is higher than yours by far, they will find a solution to deal with that.. Don't worry sit back and trust the process
European elites also need to take responsibility for the inadequate support, it's happening in our backyard after all not the americans.
No. This is the US-led proxy war against Russia in Ukraine. The whole responsibility lies with the US.
That is indeed true, some Europan countreis has not stepped up at all. Problem is HOW to make them help out as well !!
@@luisekjeldsen1515Portugal, Italy, Greece and Spain caused the decline in European defence expenditure with their profligate bad debt and the eurozone crisis. Spain has billions of dollars of high speed rail the ticket sales of which doesn’t even cover maintenance let alone operating costs. This forced cuts in German, Dutch and French defense emboldening Putin
Wrong. Never accept responsibility for any situation when it is still possible to blame the Americans.
@@williamzk9083 Low European defense expenditures has been a problem for my entire life.
Excellent; first time i've heard a decent discussion about future naval capability.
So many Russians dying for one man....
You mean ukrainians are
As a dual-citizen of America/England and a republican - I am more than disgusted with the way the House held up badly needed aid for 6+ months on the Hill. However, how can Europe (who's combined economy dwarfs Russia's) cannot fill-gap while the GOP gets their heads out is a concern that needs to be discussed as much as the delay in American aid.
I know finger pointing is easy, and in this case deserved, we have let our allies down and that will take time to recover from. However, there needs to also be the man in the mirror conversation as well.
The GOP is in the middle of an identity crisis, how they can let someone like Trump be their nominee (again), I just cannot understand - and I am a republican. With that said Europe does not spend enough of their GDP (as a whole, there are exceptions) to be able to protect Europe and that needs to be discussed as well. I am proud the UK is upping defensive spending to 2.5%, but let's be honest - it is not nearly enough.
Because of vast American strength, there was NO NEED historically for bright Euro leaders to spend a lot on their military. Until lately.
Now Europe is adjusting, as America loses interest in being the World Cop.
They had no weapons
@@Bird_McBride That they were willing to send - agreed. If you think the coffers were empty, I would consider a re-evaluation. No one wanted to (other than Denmark) send what they had. There is a point each Nation decides - what is left we need for us.
@@Bird_McBride - Bull, they didn't want to 'deplete' their supply of weapons, why I don't know. They aren't fighting for their life as Ukraine is doing, with their citizens dying every day.
You know damn good and well it's not just the equipment needed in Ukraine but the border here in the Big A, we have nothing but criminals and enemies coming through our border, thanks to Vladimir Biteme, like Chinese. So it not just Ukraine it's everything else congress has had to deal with!
Might!!
Wise words. Ukraine pays for the west's slow motion.
Not my problem. I don't want to give Ukraine anything.
But it's Ukraine vs Russia 😂😂😂
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PNAC PROXY WAR
@@PhillipGibbon If NATO was fighting Russia wouldn't last a week. Russia's air force can't even beat Ukraine's and they have like 30 air worthy 50 year old jets and don't even have proper air defenses. If NATO came 2500 jets would be bombing everything at will and Russian troops would refuse to fight after witnessing everyone else getting sent sky high by NATO bombs. More like Ukraine Vs Russia Iran North Korea China and India.
@@Withnail1969 The |US promised to protect Ukraine from Russia if they handed over their nuclear weapons left over from the fall of the USSR for the US to dispose of. They did and the US broke it's promise. If it wasn't for Ukraine blunting Russia's military NATO including the US would be in a direct war with Russia within 2 years which would of cost a billion times more money.
Ukraine is using 50 year old Soviet tanks to its advantage. The Lepard 1 is the same age and similar to the M 60. The US has hundreds of 50 year old M-60 tanks in storage that could be put to good use in Ukraine at no cost to the US taxpayer. Ukrainian mechanics could be brought in and trained while getting these tanks into usable condition. Once running they could be turned over to a crew for training, this would serve as a breaking in period allowing for mechanical problems to be found early. Crews that excelled would become the trainers so that in a short time only a skeleton crew of US military would be required thus reducing cost to the US and preparing Ukraine to assume these tasks. As seen with the Leopard tank simpler design can have advantages on Ukraine’s battlefields allowing for local repairs. The M-60 saw heavy combat in the 1991 Gulf War in Kuwait. While the battlefield has changed, and the tank has repeatedly been written off it keeps coming back. In order to provide survivability, it will take tanks on the battlefield to develop the proper countermeasures in order to survive today's threats.
We know from WW II that to be effective it takes a lot of tanks the Sherman was not the best tank but the quantity on the battlefield meant the odds were 2 or 3 to one.
There are also thousands of Armored Personnel Carriers, Fuel Trucks and support vehicles setting in storage rusting away send them to Ukraine.
that would take months my friend, thought that process may have been started, but its been slowed by lack of Ukraine manpower.
hey dude tank era is goen cant you seen in ukraine ?now is dron era
It is also disgraceful that the UK and EU have not done more.
But the UK did take back control, and saved the NHS! :)
They can't they are gutless weasels.Putin will win and was always going to.
I hope some kind of peace deal can be agreed before then, to save both Ukrainian & Russian lives.
“Cloaking devices” !!!
Hr didnt get the memo
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What counter offensive?
They are only getting 50 not 500. How many will be still operational by then? It's a very old, but updated, plane, a massive help undoubtably.
F16s are still in production!
@@_alienblood Incredible.
There was another war that didn’t turn out with the desired results it was called the Vietnam war, politics need to be involved in order to obtain weapons, but it needs to be fast swift and all and everything required. When it comes to fighting target selection, tactics all of it needs to be done by there military and there professional soldiers. Politics play a major roll with funding weapons ect the shopping list and the fighting the tactics needs to be put together by war fighters.
Most of money already given
Is F16 that capable fighter jet?
Name one time, Times Radio and their experts have been right.
Go on I DARE you ALL
bloody fly is back, stay away from my coffee cup you!
@@jmcw9632 I bathe in your coffee.
its needs more sugar you heathen
All of the pro Russian experts have been saying Ukraine is going to collapse since the first month of the war. Both sides have been wrong every step of the way.
Times Radio is an entertainment channel, not news. Kinda like the Onion.
When they said the special military operation would take more than 3 days...
Why does everyone ignore the fact there was hardly any intetuption in aid from the US? The final tranche, of $300 million, from the previous presidential drawdown authority arrived in march of this year. Up till then, they were still receiving arms shipments regularly, and those arms shipments resumed weeks ago. Ukraine has been struggling since july and losing ground since october. More money and weapons isn't gping to win them the war.
When Christmas😮😢😮!
After two years only a poor Poland is out spending more in percentage of economy. Some are still under a percentage point.
The delay by the US leading to a ' respite ' for the Russian forces, is similar to the delay prior to Waterloo when it took the Prussians time to get in position.
what a silly analogy,
The bold Ukrainians must know the reinforcing American ammo is coming.
They'll be fine.
@@mitchellhawkes22 - Really? Were they fine for the last 7 months while Russia was shelling and bombing them at 10 times the rate that the Ukranian's could fire back. Lots of lives lost and ground lost that was paid for with Ukranian blood last summer.
@@WJV9 Western aid has already started arriving in Ukraine. You may have noticed the massive increase in Russian losses this past week. Well over 1,000 a day. It's only going to get worse for Russia. Слава Україні! 🇺🇦
All those wonder weapons that will be a game changer. Its becoming hillarious
They are sending that American guy. I guess he's a game changer.
Anthony blinken...game changer.
Blink blink u r toast @@Bird_McBride
@@smoydoyz because everyone knew all along that the Ukraine can't beat Russia?
@@smoydoyz if you live 30-40 years more you might figure all this stuff out.
Of course..: He'll wait for British authorization!!!😁🤣🤣
A few billion spent on finding peace would be an idea.
Great idea say it to putin he can stop his war anytime he wants!
And where was the UK and EU's extra 60 billion to fill the gap? This catastrophe is entirely European in origin, and everyday Americans hear this cowardly scapegoating the less inclined we are to save Europe from itself - again.
If tanks can be blown up with hand held launchers then battleships can be blown up with modern weaponry especially remote controlled torpedoes etc.
The nature of war has changed a lot since WW2.
Battleships went out of fashion in ww2, due to airpower. That's why we have carrier groups and frigates to protect the trade routes.
Battleships? Ffs...
@@stephenhill545 So you never saw battleships launching Cruise Missiles?
Not for almost 35 years. The last "battleships" were withdrawn from service in the early 1990s. Do you mean "warship", which is a generic term for a naval fighting vessel.
@@FactCheckerGuy 35 years? I think you need to "factcheck" yourself....
don't pook the bear 😂
They dont have any reserves , men nowt ..Counter offensive with what exactly ?
The F-16s are nearly 30 year old models not a match with late model Su 35. They will be limited in what they can be called upon to do.
The SU 35s are from the 90s the F16s are still in production the biggest seller of fighter jets still in the world with the latest avonics
I wonder what Tricky-Dicky would say if he were paid to say what he really thought.
Antony blinken is the latest game changer sent to the Ukraine.
The Ukrainians at no point had 5% of the equipment Russia had otherwise they would have beaten them easily. They ran out of weapons and ammo 6 months ago. That is the only way Russia has been able to get the upper hand and are still losing 900 Russians killed in action every day to a country 1 20th their size.
Oh how cute, a bellcrank....
@@rickestofricks7705 ha's gonna cut the land bridge and do the other thing.
Over the last 5 to 6 months I have come to believe that Ukraine decided to cancel it's big counteroffensive because it realized that they did not have the required weapons and aircraft for a major retake of land and they would loose far too many troops an equipment doing it . I think they have elected to just hold Russia and make some advances and some retreats to keep Russia loosing the most men and equipment . I base this on the fact they were progressing well to take Tokmak and eventually Melitopol but it all suddenly stopped .
I think the multi levels of Russian defenses made them realize they would be the ones loosing large amounts of men and equipment . Now with ATACM missiles , JADAM's , F-16's etc.etc . A more successful counterattack might be on the cards . They have to take Crimea because if they do that the Russian people will see Putin as the big looser .
The rumors are irrelevant. As Zelensky correctly pointed out: Poo-tin does not honor agreements. Just ask Prigoshyn.
1: Minsk agreement - signed and failed by Ukraine
2: Minsk 2 agreement - signed and failed by Ukraine
3: Turkey peace agreement - signed and failed by Ukraine
Conclusion: Putin does not honor agreements.
@@teonesterov9141 you're Poo-tin's troll. The so-called "Turkey peace agreement" exists only in your sick imagination.
What was the faith of f16 in Vietnam with only s300
Please at least try to makes sense when trolling...
Big brother...bad
Save us America...good
America is just as much Big Brother you clown! Who gave us FB, YT, Google, etc etc....ALL who collect your data and know who you know, what you like, and what you might like!
Parade of 2nd+ hand weapons (including F-16's) given to Ukraine will not be able to fuel much any offensive push, with a lack of man/woman power being a major factor. Ground forces have to deal with ATGM's, RPG's, artillery, tanks & APC's, mines, attack helicopters & aircraft, but worst of all drones. The only viable option for a 'successful' counter-offensive would be if Ukrainian forces were supplied modern Western attack & transport helicopters (& training on such craft should begin sooner than later). Only realist way to bypass what are now heavily fortified defensive Russian positions.
Stick to handing out parking tickets UK 🇬🇧
06:00 Indeed... Come on lads, the science gets done here in Britain. The Royal Institute, Cambridge, James Clerk Maxwell... We simply can't let the bloody Yanks deploy these "laser" guns first. 🤣
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2025, lol they will be lucky to last through 2024, I said it last year it is pointless to train Ukraine pilots in F16's for several reasons.
1/ war will probably be over by then,
2/these are not super planes that can't be shot down, in fact, they are actually quite old and outdated, it is 40+ years old
3/There is nothing that an F16 can do that a Patriot missile or ATACMS or other ground-based weapon can't.
another day..another crazy TR story...who writes this stuff..?
Aircraft carriers were designed to neutralize battleships, today they are just huge liabilities
Aircraft carriers will still have their place, but actual battles at sea will probably be conducted by submarines, drone carriers, and drone carrier submarines.
@@SuperDrake85Carriers are a sunk cost investment
I thought F 16s were supposed to come this year.
no, they are meant to arrive at the end of the conflict. That was always the game.
Six are arriving in June. 45 were promised. The Europeans are blaming the slow training.
@@orlock20 or perhaps the pilots are not so keen on dying in the first week, hence they will never fully complete their training.
@@russellspeed1693 Always a possibility. The vast majority of the Russian air force self grounded itself for the same reason.
twas already delayed when the aid bill was introduced to congress
tis always about the slow death of russian capability
the talk now about NATO boots is a real tease cuz Putin has been reduced to running conventional war on fumes
Nor he should
denmark say in juni
The numbers wont be there this year. The current aid packahe ansures Ukraine can defender this year on a low lvl. Offensive needs 4 times as much.
- F-16s from Denmark will not be in Ukraine within one month, as reported yesterday.
Die Zeit journalist Jörg Lau deleted his information in which he incorrectly cited the words of Danish Prime Minister Frederiksen.
The journalist apologized and clarified that he was not talking about one month, but about “months.” 😂
Meanwhile back on earth… 😂😂😂
In europe we should stop blaming america. Were 2 years in, europe has the money we should have the money and arms to give ukraine. Its our priority to stop ukraine from falling
It really worries me that our professional officer class are so tactically unaware. They keep getting it wrong
You posted this comment about four minutes after the video was released so you haven’t even watched the whole thing before making this comment.
And you yourself are some sort of military expert and know better than these officers?
OK, Russian troll
It's just propaganda, that happens in war
@@rodneyfungus8249 I have watched the video and you don’t need to be a Alexander to know when your being sold at best a lie at worst professional incompetence
@@Phoenix-vg8li so pointing out that someone has been wrong on every occasion makes me a troll interesting.I admit I don’t care about Ukraine or Russia but I do care that there are people who won’t be happy until our servicemen are put in harms way
I think Russia has a every right to create a buffer zone - if they had done it on Russian territory.
For the F-16 ukraine 🇺🇦 what it how. NOT next year. Right now
All ways Fxxxing to late????
Les f16 IS obsolètes
June July 2023 ..
U.S. had a budget $100million for 100Ukraine Pilots ..
What are they Training on ??..
Some how i dont think its F16 ..
I reckon its one of these 2..
A10 or F35 ...
U.S. were unloading Black Boxes, saw about, 6 could have been more,
Pretty Heavily guarded ..
Was trying to see any Yellow Sticker ..
Hand Held Laser Weapons
Guaranteed..
A lot of wishful thinking here. If wishes were horses beggars would ride. The opportunity was lost a year ago and sadly, now there is no way back. This stupendously muddled response by "the West" to Putin's imperial land grab will be dissected and studied at length in history departments for ages, as the textbook example of how not to conduct diplomacy and military policy. Also it's astounding that a mentally deficient US congresswoman - yes Moscow Marge has blood on her hands - and a handful of her cronies could tie the US government into knots and prevent the delivery of critical weaponry to Ukraine. Democracy sure does have its vulnerabilities. It is also disgraceful that "Europe" has not been able to take more of its defence responsibilities into its own hands. Europe remains a tot waiting for Uncle Sam's largesse and protection. It's a very discouraging situation.
Joe Biden could have had aid to Ukraine at any time by simply agreeing to enforce existing US immigration law. The activists in his party would not allow him to do that.
News from parallel universe
F16s now!
And the challys also
"Is it possible for Ukraine to take back all their territory?"
This is such a moronic question. The question should be:
'Is it possible for Ukraine to take back all their territory - IF - the Western backers of Ukraine, who collectively enjoy a ~ 9x - 15x advantage over the collective of Russia, Iran, & North Korea in GDP terms, decide to get serious about supporting Ukraine?'
Summer* 2026* or possibly autumn 2025. if the rest of 2024 and most of 2025 has as high russian loses as this winter just gone
Drones and hypersonics have changed the whole game..
Tanks are so twentieth century
@@dessmith7658 - a 1960s tank and a cope cage gives the Russians free rein to seize evermore Ukrainian territory at leisure ?
This war will escalate and spread.
Sure, war-lords, see an opportunity to test "cracks".
Where is Europes $
american monies have not supplied any long range cruise missiles. the guest is ignorant.
projection, projection, projection...
misplacing our own weaknesses onto others ?
When you're losing touch with REALITY 🤔🙄😂
And in your case, lost...
TIME to wake up lad 😉..... Reality is sinking in 🤨....
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Lord Cameron 's hesitation/ reluctance to deploy drone downing air power in but not in Ukraine. Why ? Didn't he give the reason as it would ' commit ' NATO ! Well, NATO members are already sending armaments, and preparing to send more. Lets hope Lord Cameron isn't at heart an
' Appeaser' . Putin will be encouraged.
Counter offensive with no soildiers,how’s that going to work
delusional
Indeed you most probably are...
A psycopath NEVER admit anything, even if they are cought red-handed, stealing cokies from the cokie jar.
He's already won
Do you want America to be world police or not?? Make up your mind.
Comrade "Justin", do you want Russia to be the world's criminal or not??
It's a tough job but it wouldn't be necessary if countries all agreed to even the basics such as not invading another territory. Also if those who committed crimes against humanity could be held accountable.
I am fully aware that the US also does not abide by such standards and that it refuses to hold its soldiers who commit crimes to account and neither is it a signatory to the ICC along with Russia.
Regardless, Russia must not succeed in Ukraine.
Do you want Russia to be the world's criminal? Putin does. See his ICC arrest warrant.
@@marisabenson1222 Is Russia the world's criminal?
@@marisabenson1222 thats why most Americans don't want America troops deployed unless the US itself is threatened. What Europeans call "isolationism"
For anyone thinking ukaine could suitain another counter offensive are delusional not even got the troops anymore
As tropas europeias já deviam estar na Ucrania há muito.O terrorista russo vai buscar terroristas a todos os paises .A Ucrania já devia ter os aliados la dentro.
"There is a chance".... I wonder if we had speculation radio programs like this in 1943. But in 1943 we were getting ready to drive tanks into Germany. Now we are just sitting around trying to sound smart
Difference is that this year Russia can not drive their T62 very far at all
@@rmdomainer9042 - why not, it's already driven all the way from Moscow ?
Biden and Zelensky didn't know they already lost 😂
Unfortunately Ukraine does not have enough soldiers to launch a counter offensive. They will be on the defensive for the remainder of the war.
You have no idea...
15 euro a laser shot but u need a multi million pound ship to power it
No need for Drama! They are still in stalemate
There is stalemate on the front-line, Putins blockers in the political war gave Russia a window of opprtunity which they failed to take, and now we look to the economic war. it is not a surprise that Putin has appointed a bean counter to be Russian War minister - because Russia is fast running out of beans to count.
There are those that believe Ukraine must launch offensives to retake ground, and those that believe that Ukraine just has to hold the line and the West just have to keep inflicting the economic damage.
If the West expects Ukraine to do the former, then we must give them the overwhelming military support to do so. Which we could quite easily do, but haven't. But I suspect some politicians are just crossing their fingers and hoping for the later, because it has no real cost or effort involved for them.
Day dreamers
Such a dreadful dribble . Could say ANYTHING for 2025 or at least a CHANCE
Denmark and Netherlands are waiting for permission to send the f16s around 60 of them ,WHY THE DELAY!!!! The uk has over 100 old eurofighters in storage , not the ground attack variant, they should have been sent as soon as the pilots are available Instead of waiting for US sorting out a deal that suits the american makers . Ukraine would be better buying korean jets as they allow you to use them without permission . What happens if the f16 jets are used to bomb just over the border to stop an invasion the yanks would have kittens every bridge from russia into ukraine should have been dropped and all railway centres leading to ukraine bombed when the Ukrainian push was in full swing to starve Russia of resupply and crimea would be in Ukrainian hands but the politicians sat on their hands and gave the Russians time to dig defence in depth making it harder to root them out , shame on them
You seem to be living in the same cloud cuckoo land as most of the guests on this channel.
Putting a line of fighters into service with a new country is not like going down to the local car dealers, picking out a model and driving it home.
Fighters require a lot of training for pilots and maintainers, lots of spare parts, fuel and munitions.
LOL. Counteroffensive.
Літвіны гэта Гістарычная назва Беларусаў , як Эліны ў Грэкаў, Суомі ў Фінаў , Магяры ў Вугорцаў і так далей . Мы не першыя і не апошнія ў гэтым, трэба 2 назвы выкарыстоўваць як іншыя робяць. Mой сын кажа - мaскавіцкая мова ўвогуле не патрэбна будзе ў жыццi. Калi знiкне лукавы пра - маскоўскі тыран, у Беларусi (ВКЛ) будзе беларуская мова, а калi прыйдзецца жыць за мяжой, то будзе патрэбна мова той зaмежнай краiны. А для паразумення з iншаземнымi сябрамi, патрэбна ангельская, польская цi ўкраінская.
What a load off drivell. The times are embarrassing.
Lol
Lord Dannatt has changed his tune : "You can't defeat Russia"
Was his original position
Dannatt opposed any intervention, it was shocking to watch his appeasement position
- pays the bills to talk on TV ?
Victoria nuland actually believed she could beat Russia.
In 2025 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
😂😂😂 western media
REGIME CHANGE FOR RUSSIA
but that’s what the U$ have attempted in ukronia & it’s gone proper tit$ up
The jig is up
Western day dreaming and sense of desperation
Too late.
Time to accept defeat.
Time for you to re-evaluate your position.
@@mitchellhawkes22 - re-evaluated... time to accept defeat
He already won. Don't poke the bear.
This is some serious denial of reality and fantasising.
Che ignoranza....
F16s in Donbas airspace?
More chance of seeing *_pigs_* flying up there.
Counter offensive with old men and boys, Ukraine running out of men, they remind me of germany 1945 😂