I wondered when Catherine de Medici would be featured, and had a feeling it would be soon. This queen really took my interest when I was young and read Jean Plaidys trilogy. I didnt know if I should feel bad for her or scared of her. So much about her using poison, occult practices including Satanism, even the callous way she treated her own children. Depending on the author you were reading at the time. A favorite movie, Queen Margot, really showed just how brutal she really was, though I was surprised she really did so little to Diane after the years of hurt and degredation that lady put her thru! Thank you for this wonderful history!
Not Diane de Poitiers it was her husband who degraded and humiliated her place the blame where it's due Diane would never have had any power if Henry had no enabled her
You're welcome, and also thank you! 😊 I know she's absolutely not forgotten, but I think (as with most of the very famous Queens in history) the person she really was, and how she got there has certainly been overlooked. Marie de' Medici is also coming soon! 😉
Superb video, great detail and visually appealing (thank god for Clouet when it comes to images of the Valois!), thanks for going to all this effort, brava!
I absolutely love when there are real portraits of historical figures so I don't have to go crazy with the AI ones, but Clouet's paintings are absolutely flawless. 😊
Oh, it never fails to amaze me how many rulers had messed up childhoods. Honestly, a huge amount of history is explained by how the monarchs were treated in their younger years.
She’s fascinating and def dividing- I think the idea that she plotted for the Bartholomew’s day massacre from the beginning doesn’t make much difference sense- her conciliatory policies in the beginning (and even after, sometimes) make it unlikely imo that she’d take this huge 180 into that horrible massacre. I also give her props for going for a conciliatory policy at first; many didn’t. The fact she only changed after her son’s life was threatened says smth about her character that I think usually gets overlooked in popular conscience. I can never make a proper judgement on her lol but love learning about her- and this video was rly good- a good number of videos on her out there clearly took their information from the same website without changing it much, and you didn’t 🙏🙏 (though tbf I didn’t think you would :) Have a nice week!
It's definitely what took me a little longer with this video - there is a lot of information about Catherine, but much of it seems to go down one route only! It's especially strange, since even one of the best sources for her is Leonie Frieda's book, and that was used as a basis for the recent Serpent Queen series, sooo.....? 😂 I totally agree that I view her very much as someone working within the framework of what she was able to as well. As you say, she didn't change her mind until they threatened Charles, and honestly, I think I would have reacted the same as well. It was a stupid decision on their part to not understand that the woman helping them might change her mind when they tried to kidnap her son!
@@HistorysForgottenPeople exactly😭 “ik you’re trying to balance things but we’re gonna try and kidnap your son just to test how far your patience goes😘”… I’m not surprised it turned out the way it did
Excellent as always, thank you! One thing I am surprised was not addressed was the use of the so called "Escadron volant" the Flying Squadron, which was made of up ambitious ladies who wanted favors, which were granted, but were used as spies by Catherine.
@@leigharmstrong9940 I don't know if it is anti-Catherine propaganda, or if it was true. Supposedly, Catherine would make use of these ladies' charms, and they would seduce men Catherine wanted information from, or to create blackmail material. But yes, it would be nice to have the "Flying Squadron" story elaborated upon.
You're absolutely right, and I only made one small comment about it - I'm planning to do a full video on it at some point in the future, as I felt the 'Escadron volant' deserved one of their own. 😊
@@lilacgirl-z8w Even with that being said she was still a predator who groomed Henry. It’s believed based on correspondence the two started engaging in a sexual relationship when Diane was 35 & Henry was 15. What makes it even more disturbing is their relationship started out as mentor & student. I find it sad that looking back in time & even now people express sympathy for the young girls who were forced into relationships with grown men. However, when it’s the other way around & the victim is a male the abuse gets overlooked like oh he’s a boy doing what boys do. It’s such a sick & messed up double standard.
I think that's why the medici line was feared later on , if someone was born in this line , then they are , refered as , from the infamous house of medici. ❤❤
It's weird that a war was actually named "the War of Religion", when MOST wars have always and still are about religion, the war starters and, sadly, the history books just don't like to admit it.
Oooooh...... Oh my goodness. Why do you always make me pick just one? 😂😅 Honestly, it might be Augustus - and that is a really weird answer for me, because in modern life I would definitely lean more towards the popularis and away from the traditional! But I think when you consider the upheaval and wars of the previous decades before he took power, the problems with rationing, the political fighting, Augustus knew exactly how to stabilise Rome and pull it back into a cohesive unit. He had a lot of traditional rules I don't agree with, but it was with an attempt to create peace again, something he achieved. And recreating it as a republic allowed him to bring in constitutional and financial reform that would otherwise have been bickered over by rivals in the Senate. Sometimes you need a constitutional government, sometimes you need someone in charge to decide what's happening. 😂
It's definitely a subject that needs more exploring, I agree! I'm doing a video on Mary, Queen of Scots (due on the 3rd November) and I'm going to go over it more in that one. 😉
I think she definitely didn't start out that way, though, her policies (for the time she lived in) were quite accommodating compared to others in Europe. It might have continued, had there not been a threat to Charles' life!
Yes she was cruel even to her children the most precious beings we have in the world sheshould have loved them they were the only things that were really hers but Catherine was cold towards them and mistreated them and that is verycruel indeed
@@ileanaacacostaacosta1813 in the time she lived in she did what she had to. A lot of Queens and Kings paid little attention to their children so I don't see how that makes her any less of a parent than a lot of Kings and Queens of the time.
Hi, awesome live history video I enjoyed it. How are you doing? I'm doing well and so is my cat Benjamin. We have Thanksgiving hoilday today in Ontario Canada. In the next video in the future could you do Thomas Crammer he was King Henry the eighth friend from the 16th century. Have a great day. See you next video 😊
Glad you're doing well, Michelle, and Benjamin! I had no idea Thanksgiving was in October for you guys, although that makes sense, so I've learned something new today. Hope you had a great day! I will definitely get Cranmer on the list, he is long overdue his own video. 😊
I wondered when Catherine de Medici would be featured, and had a feeling it would be soon. This queen really took my interest when I was young and read Jean Plaidys trilogy. I didnt know if I should feel bad for her or scared of her. So much about her using poison, occult practices including Satanism, even the callous way she treated her own children. Depending on the author you were reading at the time. A favorite movie, Queen Margot, really showed just how brutal she really was, though I was surprised she really did so little to Diane after the years of hurt and degredation that lady put her thru! Thank you for this wonderful history!
Not Diane de Poitiers it was her husband who degraded and humiliated her place the blame where it's due Diane would never have had any power if Henry had no enabled her
Reign has brought an avid interest in who she was.
I must admit catherine was no beauty queen.
I hope all 3 king sons get their vids.
The first of the two Medici Queens of France Catherine is always a fascinating figure. 👍Thanks!
You're welcome, and also thank you! 😊 I know she's absolutely not forgotten, but I think (as with most of the very famous Queens in history) the person she really was, and how she got there has certainly been overlooked.
Marie de' Medici is also coming soon! 😉
Superb video, great detail and visually appealing (thank god for Clouet when it comes to images of the Valois!), thanks for going to all this effort, brava!
Need a vid of Catherine's parents.
I absolutely love when there are real portraits of historical figures so I don't have to go crazy with the AI ones, but Clouet's paintings are absolutely flawless. 😊
No wonder that so many rulers and their consorts were so messed up by today's standards, their formative years were horrific. Thanks for the history!
Oh, it never fails to amaze me how many rulers had messed up childhoods. Honestly, a huge amount of history is explained by how the monarchs were treated in their younger years.
I have sympathy for motherless children.
How old was Henry when his mother queen Claude died?
I hope to see francis I and queen claude.
She’s fascinating and def dividing- I think the idea that she plotted for the Bartholomew’s day massacre from the beginning doesn’t make much difference sense- her conciliatory policies in the beginning (and even after, sometimes) make it unlikely imo that she’d take this huge 180 into that horrible massacre.
I also give her props for going for a conciliatory policy at first; many didn’t. The fact she only changed after her son’s life was threatened says smth about her character that I think usually gets overlooked in popular conscience.
I can never make a proper judgement on her lol but love learning about her- and this video was rly good- a good number of videos on her out there clearly took their information from the same website without changing it much, and you didn’t 🙏🙏 (though tbf I didn’t think you would :)
Have a nice week!
It's definitely what took me a little longer with this video - there is a lot of information about Catherine, but much of it seems to go down one route only! It's especially strange, since even one of the best sources for her is Leonie Frieda's book, and that was used as a basis for the recent Serpent Queen series, sooo.....? 😂
I totally agree that I view her very much as someone working within the framework of what she was able to as well. As you say, she didn't change her mind until they threatened Charles, and honestly, I think I would have reacted the same as well. It was a stupid decision on their part to not understand that the woman helping them might change her mind when they tried to kidnap her son!
@@HistorysForgottenPeople exactly😭 “ik you’re trying to balance things but we’re gonna try and kidnap your son just to test how far your patience goes😘”… I’m not surprised it turned out the way it did
Who tried to kidnap her son.
What her life would be like if she didn't marry into the French royal family?
Excellent as always, thank you! One thing I am surprised was not addressed was the use of the so called "Escadron volant" the Flying Squadron, which was made of up ambitious ladies who wanted favors, which were granted, but were used as spies by Catherine.
I would love to hear about that which you mentioned. I think Catherine was quite fascinating!👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼💪🏼🫶🏼❤️
@@leigharmstrong9940 I don't know if it is anti-Catherine propaganda, or if it was true. Supposedly, Catherine would make use of these ladies' charms, and they would seduce men Catherine wanted information from, or to create blackmail material. But yes, it would be nice to have the "Flying Squadron" story elaborated upon.
You're absolutely right, and I only made one small comment about it - I'm planning to do a full video on it at some point in the future, as I felt the 'Escadron volant' deserved one of their own. 😊
@@HistorysForgottenPeople did you know catherine brought gelato into france.
Can't blame catherine for her trust issues.
Maybe Diane de Poitier next? Please?
Yes! Just watched a fabulous documentary about her chateau
She didn't steal Catherine's husband since she was already Henry's mistress.
Diane talked henry into having children with catherine.
@@lilacgirl-z8w Even with that being said she was still a predator who groomed Henry. It’s believed based on correspondence the two started engaging in a sexual relationship when Diane was 35 & Henry was 15. What makes it even more disturbing is their relationship started out as mentor & student.
I find it sad that looking back in time & even now people express sympathy for the young girls who were forced into relationships with grown men. However, when it’s the other way around & the victim is a male the abuse gets overlooked like oh he’s a boy doing what boys do. It’s such a sick & messed up double standard.
Adolescents didn't have the protection they do today.
Fabulous video and fabulous subject. Thanks!
I find catherine de medici a sad but fascinating figure in history.
Her childhood was barbaric.
👍⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐EXCELLENT AS ALWAYS, THANK YOU!
Definitely excellent.
Catherine de medici deserves more attention.
Well researched
Thank you! This one did take a bit longer than normal as there is so much research on her, and some of it is to be taken with a pinch of salt. 😉
They have her in so many channels right niw and the series too. 0:23
Is serpent queen getting a second season?
Her uncle pope clement should get a segment.
Thank you ❤
I think that's why the medici line was feared later on , if someone was born in this line , then they are , refered as , from the infamous house of medici. ❤❤
Are there any de medici left?
@@Ravenproctor2966 idk
The de medici family seemed cursed to me.
Would like to see more of the house of de medici.
@@lilacgirl-z8w really from rags to riches
It's weird that a war was actually named "the War of Religion", when MOST wars have always and still are about religion, the war starters and, sadly, the history books just don't like to admit it.
It's nearly always religion or taking power, sometimes both for a change!
Very cool 😎
Like deployed 👍
Good evening
💫👏 thank you
I'm so grateful for this channel.
Woo hoo! I've been waiting for this one!
Have an interest in the French monarchy too?
French monarchy was fascinating before louis the sun king and marie antoinette.
oh I forgot the question! Not sure if I’m in time but, since you once said you’re interested in Ancient Rome, who’s your fav roman emperor?
Oooooh......
Oh my goodness. Why do you always make me pick just one? 😂😅
Honestly, it might be Augustus - and that is a really weird answer for me, because in modern life I would definitely lean more towards the popularis and away from the traditional! But I think when you consider the upheaval and wars of the previous decades before he took power, the problems with rationing, the political fighting, Augustus knew exactly how to stabilise Rome and pull it back into a cohesive unit. He had a lot of traditional rules I don't agree with, but it was with an attempt to create peace again, something he achieved. And recreating it as a republic allowed him to bring in constitutional and financial reform that would otherwise have been bickered over by rivals in the Senate.
Sometimes you need a constitutional government, sometimes you need someone in charge to decide what's happening. 😂
@@HistorysForgottenPeople do you plan on doing any roman empresses?
I wonder who was the most powerful Roman empress?
I would like to know what catherine really felt about mary queen of scots?
It's definitely a subject that needs more exploring, I agree! I'm doing a video on Mary, Queen of Scots (due on the 3rd November) and I'm going to go over it more in that one. 😉
Can you plz do Mary queen of scots
Funnily enough......she's not the next video, but the one after that. Keep an eye out! 😉
Can't wait!
Did she romantically love Francis ii I wonder?
I don't deny she was a catholic fanatic.
I think she definitely didn't start out that way, though, her policies (for the time she lived in) were quite accommodating compared to others in Europe. It might have continued, had there not been a threat to Charles' life!
Cruel?
Yes she was cruel even to her children the most precious beings we have in the world sheshould have loved them they were the only things that were really hers but Catherine was cold towards them and mistreated them and that is verycruel indeed
@@ileanaacacostaacosta1813 in the time she lived in she did what she had to. A lot of Queens and Kings paid little attention to their children so I don't see how that makes her any less of a parent than a lot of Kings and Queens of the time.
The point is I don't consider her as such, at least not without context. Hence my question mark. 😉
I could see her favoring her sons over her daughters.
@@lilacgirl-z8w in that time royalty did favor their sons over their daughters.
Hi, awesome live history video I enjoyed it. How are you doing? I'm doing well and so is my cat Benjamin. We have Thanksgiving hoilday today in Ontario Canada. In the next video in the future could you do Thomas Crammer he was King Henry the eighth friend from the 16th century. Have a great day. See you next video 😊
Well wishes to you and Benjamin, I really enjoy hearing about him. I hope you have a great holiday!
Glad you're doing well, Michelle, and Benjamin! I had no idea Thanksgiving was in October for you guys, although that makes sense, so I've learned something new today. Hope you had a great day! I will definitely get Cranmer on the list, he is long overdue his own video. 😊
Let's not forget thomas more.
Henry viii was as awful a friend as he was a husband.
I'm completely sure, she's not forgotten😅😅😅
No, she definitely isn't, but sometimes I have to bow to popular opinion and requests! 😂
Does any of her diaries still exist?
I love Catherine Medici. She was so awesome.
Being a queen mother surely wasn't easy.
I'd like to see her in laws francis I and claude.