The Queen Who Saved Her Husband's Kingdom? | Eleanor of Provence

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  • Eleanor of Provence is best known for some fairly horrible facts about her life, and over the centuries, this has shaped interpretations about her entire character. However, despite her shortcomings, Eleanor was also a model for queenship going forwards from her time, an example of equally shared royal duty, and importantly, she used her skills to save her husband and his kingdom during a rebellion. No different to the other people of her time, Elanor deserves to be remembered as who she really was, and this video attempts to dive deeper into this...
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  • @Ravenproctor2966
    @Ravenproctor2966 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    Everyone should read the Four Queens it's about Eleanor and her 3 sisters. It's a great read.

    • @DorchaEagla
      @DorchaEagla 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Whose it by please

    • @jenniferstone2975
      @jenniferstone2975 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It’s an excellent book! Thank you for the reminder!

    • @lilacgirl-z8w
      @lilacgirl-z8w 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Eleanor and Marguerite were tough queens.

  • @madelinevanderbunny607
    @madelinevanderbunny607 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Another excellent video about another fascinating medieval queen.😊

    • @HistorysForgottenPeople
      @HistorysForgottenPeople  15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I'm glad you liked it! 😊 I'm definitely going to add others about her sisters not too far in the future, they deserve their own spotlight as well.

    • @madelinevanderbunny607
      @madelinevanderbunny607 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@HistorysForgottenPeople Fantastic! I look forward to seeing those. I do know a bit about Eleanor de Provence but admittedly I know precious little about her sisters aside from one of them being married to the French king of course which you touched on briefly. I look forward to hearing more about them.

    • @Ravenproctor2966
      @Ravenproctor2966 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Is her family home in Provence still standing?

  • @eyeseeeee
    @eyeseeeee 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    He was 28 & she 12 W😮W i can only imagine wat their convos where "how was ur day dear, oh my ladies in waiting & I ran thru the gardens singing & playing merry go round & urs, running the country" 😂😂

    • @HistorysForgottenPeople
      @HistorysForgottenPeople  15 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      I think honestly (as well as for all other marriages with a similar gap at the time), the wife to be was honestly treated somewhat like a sort of adopted daughter for a while until they were older. Which doesn't help at all with our modern-day comfort level of these marriages. 😅

    • @Ravenproctor2966
      @Ravenproctor2966 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@HistorysForgottenPeopleI'm glad I wasn't made into a child bride.

  • @jvly013
    @jvly013 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Thank you so much for making a video on this queen!

    • @leeannproctor47
      @leeannproctor47 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Please do her other 3 sisters.

    • @HistorysForgottenPeople
      @HistorysForgottenPeople  15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I'm definitely going to! I promise they're on my list, too. 😊

  • @daedubois9428
    @daedubois9428 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    I love these biographies but I may need a family tree. Every one is named Edward or Henry or Louis. Its hard for me to keep them in order.

    • @lilacgirl-z8w
      @lilacgirl-z8w 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      There is also a lot of charles and erik.

    • @nancymoore1240
      @nancymoore1240 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I know!!! Really !
      There was also a small spate of "Richards" but for less than 100 yrs.
      Then the Edwards & Henrys flowed back in.
      Followed by the George's.
      But " Victoria" was the worst. Most of Queen Victoria's granddaughters were also named Victoria. Her great- granddaughters too. With a lot of "Alice"s sprinkled in.
      It's really hard to keep them sorted out while reading.

    • @Ravenproctor2966
      @Ravenproctor2966 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      So sad eleanor died first instead of edward.

    • @nancymoore1240
      @nancymoore1240 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Ravenproctor2966
      I thought it said that Eleanor died after Henry, her husband. Edward was their child and king at the time.

  • @MissMentats
    @MissMentats 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +32

    As a modern day Londoner, there’s been weekly protests happening and the majority of participants would not view Eleanor’s actions against the Jews as unreasonable. I don’t understand my city anymore

    • @leeannproctor47
      @leeannproctor47 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      I'm sorry to hear that.

    • @gonefishing167
      @gonefishing167 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      No, the world is in an unhappy place at the moment. I don’t know, perhaps it always has been , but one can understand it in medieval times but not these days! Education was supposed to help such biased thinking but - seems like it’s going downhill . So sad 🙏🙏👵

    • @HistorysForgottenPeople
      @HistorysForgottenPeople  15 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I'm sorry to hear that, and I know how bad it must be there - up here we also have our share of idiots rioting over issues that I thought were held by only a minority.

    • @gonefishing167
      @gonefishing167 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@MissMentats I e already written so, apologies , but on the tv last night I saw ‘protests’ on the news. Pelting things at police on horses! Horses! I’ve never seen anything like this in Australia - ever! You think ‘other people have this kind of thing, not us’. It made me cry for what used to be. My dad got friendly with a rabbi during the war. Dad didn’t like religion and services were compulsory so dad told them he was Jewish. Rabbis were very scarce in the RAAF. One day his commanding officer called him and told him, so excitedly, that he’d found him a rabbi. Oh dear. On the Friday dad reported to the appropriate tent and within 2 seconds I’d say the rabbi sure as heck knew dad wasn’t Jewish. So, what happened , they played cards! Commanding officer asked if dad was happy “ best Friday ever’ said my dad and, every available Friday for the next 18 months , dad and the rabbi played cards! I remember going to his house for a meal, I remember playing with a boy around 9 and going to sleep behind a green couch. Also, attending a wedding in a synagogue . May be a figment of my imagination but I recall it as being blue. And I remember embarrassing my mum because I called out ‘ but why can’t I sit with my daddy’. Sorry, long rambling but I have never forgotten it and my dad never forgot the kindness of that man. Dad would not have put up with any sort of racism, not on any colour. Those are the things we should remember , kindness and tolerance . If we don’t we are doomed as a species. It’ll be dinosaurs all over again and , I think, they deserve the planet more! 🙏🙏🙏👵🇦🇺

    • @blackorchidmuse
      @blackorchidmuse 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's sad that antisemitism is an acceptable form of racism is many places

  • @JangianTV
    @JangianTV 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Another splendid video - thank you! 😊

  • @RobertTycenHauser
    @RobertTycenHauser 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thank you !! Amazing and impartial as usual, always so interesting.

    • @leeannproctor47
      @leeannproctor47 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Also the ugly parts in history is never ignored which I appreciate.

    • @lilacgirl-z8w
      @lilacgirl-z8w 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I hate it when the bad bits are glossed over.

  • @codyhall9223
    @codyhall9223 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Another banger! You’re on a roll!

    • @Ravenproctor2966
      @Ravenproctor2966 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It certainly is a banger.

    • @HistorysForgottenPeople
      @HistorysForgottenPeople  15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Aww, thank you so much! It's awesome when I know you guys are enjoying them as much as I love making them. 😊

  • @trapped7534
    @trapped7534 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    If the painting is accurate,she was breathtakingly beautiful.

    • @leeannproctor47
      @leeannproctor47 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      My thoughts exactly.

    • @HistorysForgottenPeople
      @HistorysForgottenPeople  15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Well, I have to admit that is an AI representation of her, but I try to go off contemporary descriptions as closely as possible. (Made far worse when none exist!) The issue is that all medieval queens were, as a matter of politeness, described as beautiful. However, Eleanor and her sisters' beauty was apparently very well known, so I feel slightly more comfortable making her look this good. 😂

  • @annekendziora9114
    @annekendziora9114 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    It has been so fascinating learning about the ancient queens.

    • @Ravenproctor2966
      @Ravenproctor2966 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They sure don't resemble fairytales don't they.

    • @annekendziora9114
      @annekendziora9114 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Ravenproctor2966 Haha no!

    • @lilacgirl-z8w
      @lilacgirl-z8w 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Were fairytales told in the 1200s?

  • @lilacgirl-z8w
    @lilacgirl-z8w 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    All 3 of her sisters became queens. Hope they get their own segments.

  • @joelas87
    @joelas87 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I know you most cover English Monarchs but i have enjoyed and admired your impecable work with other historical figure; specially the Spanish Royals; your video ok Joanna The Mad is brilliant and very well researched; and since English and Spanish history is inevitably intertwined; i have a request to make; can you do a video on Queen Isabella I of Castile? covering the extraordinary; the good; the bad and the ugly? she's perhaps one of the greatest monarchs in human history who achievements and influence has endured to this very day; the world as we know it today would have not been possible if it wasn't for her politics; she is descendant from the English bloodline; Catherine of Lancaster was her grandmother and; her daughter Catherine of Aragonbbecame queen consort of England; and she was also regent when Henry was gone in France; most importantly England had the very first crowned female ruler with Queen Mary I Tudor as regnant in her own right; after empress matillda; and none of that would have happened if Queen Isabella of Castile had not been who she was.

    • @leeannproctor47
      @leeannproctor47 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hope more Spanish queens will be displayed.

    • @overcomerbtboj
      @overcomerbtboj 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The british royal family remain close to the spanish royals to this day which i find fascinating - a long history going back to katherine of aragon

  • @zackhalter9571
    @zackhalter9571 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    She is one of my favorite English Queens!!

    • @leeannproctor47
      @leeannproctor47 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Of all the Provence sisters eleanor was luckiest in husbands.

    • @lilacgirl-z8w
      @lilacgirl-z8w 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Provence right now a part of France or Italy?

    • @HistorysForgottenPeople
      @HistorysForgottenPeople  15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Her video was definitely long overdue! I'm happy to have finally put her up here. 😊

    • @Ravenproctor2966
      @Ravenproctor2966 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Eleanor had a stronger backbone than her husband.

    • @overcomerbtboj
      @overcomerbtboj 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@lilacgirl-z8wprovence is still part of france

  • @lfgifu296
    @lfgifu296 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    oiiii Eleanor! You did say you’d make a video on her🙏🙏 the expelling of the Jews was the worst thing she did, although it was common for the time, I think it’s fair to frown (heavily) on it.
    Apart from that I do like her, but can’t do so very strongly because of it😭
    I feel bad for the “hate” she got in England, especially as she was so young, and I do admire what she did during the war. All in all, a nuanced character

    • @lilacgirl-z8w
      @lilacgirl-z8w 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Did Eleanor personally expelled the jews or just got the blame?

    • @DarthDread-oh2ne
      @DarthDread-oh2ne 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi I friend. I miss you.

    • @HistorysForgottenPeople
      @HistorysForgottenPeople  15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I did! I take ages sometimes, but I promise I really do have this stupid long list with hundreds of figures on it, waiting for their turn for a video. 😂😂😂 And you make a good point about the expelling of the Jews, since it was an accepted thing at the time, but also Eleanor's actions in her personal life show that - much like today - those carrying it out still knew it was wrong.
      And she was absolutely nuanced! I think you asked me a while ago what I thought of Eleanor, and I couldn't quite decide. There's some bad things about her, but there's a lot of good as well, and most of her 'bad' character comes from depictions of her from a perspective of 'she's foreign', rather than her political acumen.

    • @leeannproctor47
      @leeannproctor47 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@HistorysForgottenPeoplethank you for acknowledging the politics going on back then.

    • @lfgifu296
      @lfgifu296 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@DarthDread-oh2nehi! how are you?

  • @anweshabiswas1483
    @anweshabiswas1483 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    ❤❤❤❤❤ Love your videos.

    • @HistorysForgottenPeople
      @HistorysForgottenPeople  15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you so much! And I have seen your other comment about Isabel Neville, she's not coming up soon, but she is on my list for the future at some point. 😉

    • @lilacgirl-z8w
      @lilacgirl-z8w 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@HistorysForgottenPeoplelike her sister Anne she's also an enigma.

    • @leeannproctor47
      @leeannproctor47 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Is Savoy a part of France or Italy?

    • @anweshabiswas1483
      @anweshabiswas1483 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@leeannproctor47 I think divided between France and Italy .

  • @BeeKool__113
    @BeeKool__113 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This channel RULES!! ❤👑 So many fascinating and educational stories.📖 I am always learning so much about figures and events of the past. Even expanding my knowledge on certain subjects that I feel quite versed in. Great video!! Can't wait for the next video!!

    • @lilacgirl-z8w
      @lilacgirl-z8w 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      On my top 5 favorite history channels.

  • @MissMentats
    @MissMentats 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    All of the channels have hopped onto the AI bandwagon. And I’m like… you’re copying the one channel that I only figured out was even using AI because of how bad everyone else was doing it 😂

    • @MissMentats
      @MissMentats 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Literally I just assumed it was some kind of artistic wizardry until maybe a month ago 😂

    • @MissMentats
      @MissMentats 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Although… it’s still pretty dam amazing (use of ai on this channel) sorry just got back from the pub 😂

    • @lilacgirl-z8w
      @lilacgirl-z8w 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Provence is so beautiful.

    • @HistorysForgottenPeople
      @HistorysForgottenPeople  15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Hahaha, I'm going to take that as a compliment, I think?! 😂 I really do try to keep the AI to a minimum when I can (bloody love when there's a vain monarch with hundreds of portraits, thank you Elizabeth I), but if I have to use it, I try to make it look as close as I can to reality.

    • @MissMentats
      @MissMentats 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@HistorysForgottenPeople yes my v drunken compliment 😂 sorry about that. you use it so well, I didn’t actually realise it was even AI until v recently is what I meant!

  • @MichelleBruce-lo4oc
    @MichelleBruce-lo4oc 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Hi, awesome live history video I enjoyed it. How are you doing and your cat Mallard? I'm doing well and so is my cat Benjamin. We have summer like weather in Ontario Canada. How is the weather where you are? In the next video in the future could you do Sir Thomas Wyatt he was a rebel from the 16th century Tudor Times. Have a great day see you next video 😊

  • @brennonflowers
    @brennonflowers 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hi, quick error I wanted to bring to your attention. At the beginning, you said Eleanor was the youngest child, this is incorrect. Eleanor was the second born daughter. The youngest was Beatrice. The birth order is Margaret, Eleanor, Sanchia, and Beatrice.

  • @displacerkatsidhe
    @displacerkatsidhe 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Ooooo I had to pause barely a minute in due to an error. An easily fact checkable error.
    Eleanor of Provence was NOT the youngest child of Ramon Berenguer V and Beatrice of Savoy:
    Margaret of Provence (1221-1295), wife of Louis IX, King of France
    Eleanor of Provence (1223-1291), wife of Henry III, King of England
    Sanchia of Provence (1225-1261), wife of Richard, King of the Romans, brother of the King of England
    Beatrice of Provence (1229-1267), wife of Charles I, King of Sicily, brother of the King of France
    The two boys have disputed birthdates. If twins they may have been bore a year before Margaret, or between Sanchia and Beatrice. If not twins, one was born first, than the second between Sanchia and Beatrice.
    Provance was also technically not part of france at the time, and part of the Holy Roman Empire.

    • @leeannproctor47
      @leeannproctor47 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Were Sanchia and Beatrice close like Marguerite and Eleanor?

    • @lilacgirl-z8w
      @lilacgirl-z8w 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Wonder if Eleanor was a fashion icon in her day?

  • @josepinheiro6064
    @josepinheiro6064 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

  • @tonibarrone854
    @tonibarrone854 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Thank you❤

    • @Ravenproctor2966
      @Ravenproctor2966 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Edward I was a bully but clearly loved his wife.

    • @lilacgirl-z8w
      @lilacgirl-z8w 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Does anyone know what her favorite pastimes were?

  • @LabelsAreMeaningless
    @LabelsAreMeaningless 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The ending of this truly bothered me. It went from you talking about facts into derailing the conversation to push your own personal politics. Shame on you. It's obvious and distasteful

  • @madelinevanderbunny607
    @madelinevanderbunny607 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Thanks!

  • @joshuaowensjr8694
    @joshuaowensjr8694 วันที่ผ่านมา

    She was loving mother