TheMagicManSam I didn't play during this time (started during RTR) and am catching up on the older sets here. This powerlevel is crazy. Love your channel btw & the Command Zone episode you were in recently.
Yah I started playing in Innistrad, Scars of Mirrodin block with Innistrad block was insanely OP haha. I played a lot of janky heartless summoning decks. My hands down least favorite deck was Geist of St. Traft deck, Feeling of dread and Geist of St. Traft could beat you in a few turns just on their own. It was so triggering.
***** I had to do that once when i had two legendaries and a planeswalker out and lost all of them and like half my mana, god it's infuriating to fight my friends mill deck.
Im a long time yu gi oh player and I must say I just started playing magic yesterday, I am enjoying thwme hell out of it!! Cant believe it took me this long to start playing!
It's mind games. You can preempt a lot of things by just knowing what is in their opponents deck (and they do, they get to inspect the opponents deck prior to playing) and seeing a player holding on to a specific card. Shuffling negates this effectively, thus removing an advantage from the opponent.
Ugh, I really don't understand why people feel the need to insult this video. If you came here by accident, not quite sure why you're blaming the content of the video for anything. If you came here intentionally, I don't know why you're insulting the players; they are brilliant minds playing a very complicated game. If you need to insult some personal characteristics of the players to make yourself feel better, share it with someone who cares or someone with an equal lack of self-esteem.
I agree except on the second one. New players mostly aren't experienced enough to know what kind of deck they are good with and preconstructed decks make it easier for them to start.
To all the people going "Dunno what's going on lol," watch this, learn the rules, play a bunch, come back and watch again. You will truly appreciate the skill these guys have, I guarantee it.
Not only that, it was also a method of keeping the opponent from guessing what you have in hand. If there was a player who consistently kept counter cards at the left-most side of their hand or looked at them frequently then the opponent could assume there is a counter in their hand. Shuffling them around instead of looking at them keeps them from focusing too much on their hand which could give away any crucial instants.
Price of cards depends on how serious you want to get, but just to get started you can grab an intro pack for under $20 or a deck builders toolkit (which I'd recommend) for around $30, atleast here in Canada.
If you have an xbox 360 or PS3, purchase download any of the Magic the Gathering Duals of the Planeswalkers arcade games. They show you how the game functions in a more visual fashion than the actual card game. It's a good place to start if you really want to learn.
If you do not have sleeves you will have to use a checklist that comes in every pack of magic cards (or you can buy online for a cent or two). You simply check the name of Double-face card you are using and when you cast it you get the double face card from outside the game, preferably where you side-deck and has to be very distinguishable from your side-deck.
It's a way to keep your opponent from knowing if you're top-decking. If you are consistently picking the top card off your deck and immediately playing it without shuffling your hand, your opponent will know there's nothing useful in your hand. It's also kind of a nervous tick, or a way to keep focused, or any number of other reasons. I think it gets annoying when they make noise (flicking the edges, tapping the table with the cards, etc.) but otherwise it's a necessary part of the game.
the shuffling is a nervous tick, a 'tell' if you will. it is also used to some success as a tool to distract your enemy. Further more if your opponent expects you to have a card in your hand, and they can see you looking at the card, the can almost be sure what the card is. If you can imagine an opponent gazing upon their removal spell while drooling, you can expect a removal spell coming. but without being able to tell witch card your opponent is reading, ect, ect. hope i helped.
Dude, I'm 21 and at least where I'm from, games of Yu Gi Oh are civilized and fun. Magic at my local FNM shop is a blast too. Both games are awesome, MTG and YuGiOh players should embrace each other.
yeah lol like i said its just learning. you'll get used to it eventually and if you play long enough, you'll remember cards by heart and will understand more of these types of commentaries :)
it just means that when you tap that 2 color land card you can choose between what color man you want one of EX: dragonskull summit is red/black so when its tapped you can gain either one black mana OR one red mana, its your choice, most if not all of the dual color land enter the field tapped unless you fufill a condition that is stated on the card
im new to the game but are you able to bring as many land cards as you want and do you get to put them down whenever you want. and i didnt see basic land cards so what lands were they using. thanks
you subconsciously keep more powerful cards closer or farther away from you (depending on who you are). You shuffle them in your hand so your opponent can't read you. I don't play mtg anymore, but that is why they do it :P
That ending was classy as hell. So did I see that right, that the first game Iyanaga one shot for 20 hit? The second game was also decided by a massive hit as well?
sooo many losers in here hating on people for being "nerdy." It doesn't matter how old you are, Magic is a fun game and there's no reason to hate on someone for playing it. The real nerds are the people who come and make fun of people for doing what they like cuz it gives em some kind of sick satisfaction
its actually not that complicated as magic the gathering. its almost the same when you start learning, how the game works. remembering cards, learning new strategies, etc. and its okay if you think that yugioh sucks but alot of people say magic sucks too. and wen you go back on the subject of why they dont make programs like these, its mainly bc yugioh isnt well sponcered or funded like magics. thats why you see most prizes at yugioh tourny is cards. in the end its just to have fun :)
I'm struggling with the concept at 23:40 A card game where you get to search through your deck and grab any cards you want? I must be missing something. Can someone explain what's going on there?
It's too trick the other player into thinking that they will play another card so the opponent will get a certain card ready to counter-act that, but then they immediately switch back, so who ever gets it last has a small advantage.
But I do agree, pro level magic is way too stressful to capture the actual fun of the game. Semi-competitive stuff like lower level tournaments and FNM is the way to go.
It's a way to keep yourself sharp and fully into the game. They keep shuffling and flipping their cards to keep themselves from being distracted. You should try while playing, it looks weird, it did to me atleast, but it feels kinda good. ;)
i play both fairly often, the game mechanics of magic are a bit more complex and you have to truly strategize or you will lose. Yugioh you just strategize within a few steps. FOr instance, magic has many more "instants" to worry about that can disrupt your plays instead of running into a solemn warning or bottomless trap hole.
It's not about giving away strategy(but that can happen) but being attentive. The bigger the prize the less people want to fuck up, meet most of these people after a tournament or in between games and they're a lot differently. It's true for competitive anything, some people can joke and keep 100% of their attention on the game, others cannot. Look at it this way; They probably just played 7 matches day-2 before this, it's the finals and a lot of money/packs is on the line.
Hiding your hand under the table would be considered unacceptable because you can slip cards in and out while its out of sight. Some cards do not look at the hand, but allow the other player to randomly choose a card from the other players hand. ex: you use a sorcery to draw a card from your library. the opposing player then plays an instant to randomly select a card from your hand and send it to the graveyard. If you are not shuffling your cards they could easily select the card you just got.
You should check out Shuhei Nakamura playing, he shuffle's card so fast. He also plays extremely fast, which is really nice to watch compared to this :D
Duels of the Planeswalkers is definitely the better choice for if you just want to have some fun playing occasionally, but having a deck is much better for really getting into it. It just feels more personal; the cards actually feel like YOUR cards, whereas I feel like in DOTP they feel more like you're borrowing your friends deck :\
If you watch the Avacyn Pro Tour that's up they now show close ups of the cards they play , I guess if you don't know magic too well then it could be confusing
When magic players shuffle their hands like this, on of the reasons is because of nervous tension and wanting to do something as an outlet of the excess energy from competition. It's also strategic in that it's EXTREMELY distracting for the opponent. This can cause your opponent to make mistakes.
Mostly out of nervousness and needing to think. I catch myself doing it sometimes, but its also a good way to be sure your opponent has no idea what's in your hand. Say they play Gitaxian Probe and then a spell that makes you discard cards they decide without looking at your hand?
you just answered your own question. If watching someone do that unsettles you imagine playing against it, it's extremely distracting. Also it helps disguise what cards are in their hands from the opponent
I'm new to magic and I don't know how to construct a deck. I bought a simple Depths of Power deck to get me started. If they didn't make decks for new players then how can we grasp the concept of building our own?
I'm relatively new to Magic, can someone tell me what cards like Soaring Seacliff does? Does it mean, If i tap Soaring Seacliff then I can place a blue land card from my deck onto the battlefield? Any help will be appreciated.
Lightning Bolt is infinitely more flexible though. It is instant speed, and can target players (and by extension deal with planeswalkers). Flame Slash is better for creatures, but in a competitive environment with a huge pool of different decks in your meta, you want something flexible rather than the extra 1 damage.
the grey colored(inkmoth nexus) land can be turned into a creature that deals infect damage. if you are dealt ten infect damage you lose. he used the land kessig wolf run to make the 1/1 flying infect into a 5/1 infect, and his opponent was not able to block it
I used to play so much Magic, which usually ended with me getting every single land I own before any creature, or every single creature I own before any lands :)
No you just need at least 60, you can have 80 if you want to. They just always have 60 cards because there is always some cards that are really important to draw, so you want to increase your chances of drawing those important cards.
stickmanymickmany But then you will lose many other games due to having a suboptimal deck. If mill based decks are an issue, there are better ways to beat them, using cards in your sideboard.
jqxok Right, with a max of 4 of any card(sometimes less) having large decks just means you have an inefficient deck :) Someone with only 60 cards has greater control over their luck than someone with more.
this standard is so insane. I can't even believe the power level of Junya's deck.
nearly all of his cards still see Modern play.
just nuts.
TheMagicManSam I didn't play during this time (started during RTR) and am catching up on the older sets here. This powerlevel is crazy. Love your channel btw & the Command Zone episode you were in recently.
Yah I started playing in Innistrad, Scars of Mirrodin block with Innistrad block was insanely OP haha. I played a lot of janky heartless summoning decks. My hands down least favorite deck was Geist of St. Traft deck, Feeling of dread and Geist of St. Traft could beat you in a few turns just on their own. It was so triggering.
I don't know why but it drives me crazy how they shuffle their hands constantly while thinking lol
its an autonomous sensory response...i love watching people shuffling cards and playing with paper...it sends tingles up and down my spine and scalp
I have a horrible habit of setting down my hand, and studying the battlefield. Sometimes I forget to factor in my hand in the strategy.
*****
I do the same thing, then inwardly curse when i lose half my field and realise that i could've prevented it for two mana QQ
You have quite a bit of composure. I would outwardly curse, then sometimes I even need to get up, walk around and take a few deep breaths
*****
I had to do that once when i had two legendaries and a planeswalker out and lost all of them and like half my mana, god it's infuriating to fight my friends mill deck.
Damn they sure look like they're having fun
You play a 2 day tournament with high theta brainwaves and see how happy you look. These guys are having a blast mentally. The emotions come after.
Completely agree. I hit the gym 6-8 times a week, maintain a healthy relationship, healthy lifestyle, and a house. I still love this game!!
If you shuffle your hand enough your cards will change >.
Angel Vasquez diabolic revelation
Angel Vasquez That happened to me once Lol
Im a long time yu gi oh player and I must say I just started playing magic yesterday, I am enjoying thwme hell out of it!! Cant believe it took me this long to start playing!
The fun of titans. They were such a good idea....
That's what I love about magic. It can be as casual or as professional as you want it to be.
why the fuck do they always go through their damn cards like that, just know wtf is in your hand and chill out....
It's just a thing you do whilst thinking about what your sequence of moves is going to be.
It's mind games. You can preempt a lot of things by just knowing what is in their opponents deck (and they do, they get to inspect the opponents deck prior to playing) and seeing a player holding on to a specific card. Shuffling negates this effectively, thus removing an advantage from the opponent.
its to give as least information to opponent as possible, they cant tell when you are nervous fidgeting if you are fidgeting all the time...
Thanks for being one of them.
MtG is an adult version of Yu-gi-Oh and far more detailed. MtG is more fun to play than yu-gi-oh was and more complicated.... :/
Ugh, I really don't understand why people feel the need to insult this video. If you came here by accident, not quite sure why you're blaming the content of the video for anything. If you came here intentionally, I don't know why you're insulting the players; they are brilliant minds playing a very complicated game. If you need to insult some personal characteristics of the players to make yourself feel better, share it with someone who cares or someone with an equal lack of self-esteem.
fucking OCD bullshit with the flipping the cards constantly
I can almost say that Bland's constant shuffling and bending of his cards is some kind of code.
hey look at that, an asian won a tournament game, never seen that happen before
Yes, but this time it wasn't TWO asians in the final. Good enough for me!
Ah, casual racism in the comments section. Some things never change.
Perfect video to introduce people to Magic The Gathering.
The sweetest part about this video is how the announcers sound like they could also be doing the Masters and Wimbledon
Sir. That was a very well conveyed comprehensive explanation. Kudos.
I agree except on the second one. New players mostly aren't experienced enough to know what kind of deck they are good with and preconstructed decks make it easier for them to start.
This is one of the coolest things I have seen
To all the people going "Dunno what's going on lol," watch this, learn the rules, play a bunch, come back and watch again. You will truly appreciate the skill these guys have, I guarantee it.
Not only that, it was also a method of keeping the opponent from guessing what you have in hand. If there was a player who consistently kept counter cards at the left-most side of their hand or looked at them frequently then the opponent could assume there is a counter in their hand. Shuffling them around instead of looking at them keeps them from focusing too much on their hand which could give away any crucial instants.
Price of cards depends on how serious you want to get, but just to get started you can grab an intro pack for under $20 or a deck builders toolkit (which I'd recommend) for around $30, atleast here in Canada.
Iyananga deck is awesome immediately had lands and sorcery to combine. Amazing
Magic the Gathering. One of the best card games of all times...
If you have an xbox 360 or PS3, purchase download any of the Magic the Gathering Duals of the Planeswalkers arcade games. They show you how the game functions in a more visual fashion than the actual card game. It's a good place to start if you really want to learn.
If you do not have sleeves you will have to use a checklist that comes in every pack of magic cards (or you can buy online for a cent or two). You simply check the name of Double-face card you are using and when you cast it you get the double face card from outside the game, preferably where you side-deck and has to be very distinguishable from your side-deck.
very good game. Red/green best combination
It's a way to keep your opponent from knowing if you're top-decking. If you are consistently picking the top card off your deck and immediately playing it without shuffling your hand, your opponent will know there's nothing useful in your hand.
It's also kind of a nervous tick, or a way to keep focused, or any number of other reasons. I think it gets annoying when they make noise (flicking the edges, tapping the table with the cards, etc.) but otherwise it's a necessary part of the game.
the shuffling is a nervous tick, a 'tell' if you will. it is also used to some success as a tool to distract your enemy. Further more if your opponent expects you to have a card in your hand, and they can see you looking at the card, the can almost be sure what the card is. If you can imagine an opponent gazing upon their removal spell while drooling, you can expect a removal spell coming. but without being able to tell witch card your opponent is reading, ect, ect. hope i helped.
Dude, I'm 21 and at least where I'm from, games of Yu Gi Oh are civilized and fun. Magic at my local FNM shop is a blast too. Both games are awesome, MTG and YuGiOh players should embrace each other.
Ah I did not see that until afterwards. Thanks!
Thanks for giving an actual solid, logical-sounding reason, finally!
I want to start playing!!! :D Looks so fun! :D
yeah lol like i said its just learning. you'll get used to it eventually and if you play long enough, you'll remember cards by heart and will understand more of these types of commentaries :)
Those abilities either look at the hand before choosing or do it randomly, at which point you can shuffle then under the table.
Yeah, I do. Been playing for about 2 years now.
it just means that when you tap that 2 color land card you can choose between what color man you want one of EX: dragonskull summit is red/black so when its tapped you can gain either one black mana OR one red mana, its your choice, most if not all of the dual color land enter the field tapped unless you fufill a condition that is stated on the card
im new to the game but are you able to bring as many land cards as you want and do you get to put them down whenever you want. and i didnt see basic land cards so what lands were they using. thanks
Most cards that enable you to search your library also say to shuffle it. Some say "you may shuffle your library".
you subconsciously keep more powerful cards closer or farther away from you (depending on who you are). You shuffle them in your hand so your opponent can't read you. I don't play mtg anymore, but that is why they do it :P
is there a specific use of constantly going over their cards? or is it comparable to poker players messing around with their chips?
It is the same thing :)
thx :)
Tespai
Heh, They have to see which options are open for them.
By 'constantly going over their cards' I am pretty sure he means how they are continuously shuffling their hand
It's just a thing you do whilst thinking about what your sequence of moves is going to be.
I never understood Magic, I do now. My friend taught me it and I'm actually going to pick it up.
That ending was classy as hell. So did I see that right, that the first game Iyanaga one shot for 20 hit? The second game was also decided by a massive hit as well?
This should be on ESPN.
HOW DID I GET TO THIS VIDEO.
are there any specific tournament rules for werewolves ? like do you need sleeves to use them in tournament games ?
They're mixing the hands because 1. It helps them think 2. It keeps the opponent from thinking that their holding a certain card (no predictions)
sooo many losers in here hating on people for being "nerdy." It doesn't matter how old you are, Magic is a fun game and there's no reason to hate on someone for playing it. The real nerds are the people who come and make fun of people for doing what they like cuz it gives em some kind of sick satisfaction
its actually not that complicated as magic the gathering. its almost the same when you start learning, how the game works. remembering cards, learning new strategies, etc. and its okay if you think that yugioh sucks but alot of people say magic sucks too. and wen you go back on the subject of why they dont make programs like these, its mainly bc yugioh isnt well sponcered or funded like magics. thats why you see most prizes at yugioh tourny is cards. in the end its just to have fun :)
Anybody here ever seen the Klotz Productions videos? Wizrds should get to adopting that format.
I'm struggling with the concept at 23:40
A card game where you get to search through your deck and grab any cards you want?
I must be missing something. Can someone explain what's going on there?
It's too trick the other player into thinking that they will play another card so the opponent will get a certain card ready to counter-act that, but then they immediately switch back, so who ever gets it last has a small advantage.
But I do agree, pro level magic is way too stressful to capture the actual fun of the game. Semi-competitive stuff like lower level tournaments and FNM is the way to go.
It's a way to keep yourself sharp and fully into the game. They keep shuffling and flipping their cards to keep themselves from being distracted. You should try while playing, it looks weird, it did to me atleast, but it feels kinda good. ;)
i play both fairly often, the game mechanics of magic are a bit more complex and you have to truly strategize or you will lose. Yugioh you just strategize within a few steps. FOr instance, magic has many more "instants" to worry about that can disrupt your plays instead of running into a solemn warning or bottomless trap hole.
It's not about giving away strategy(but that can happen) but being attentive. The bigger the prize the less people want to fuck up, meet most of these people after a tournament or in between games and they're a lot differently.
It's true for competitive anything, some people can joke and keep 100% of their attention on the game, others cannot.
Look at it this way; They probably just played 7 matches day-2 before this, it's the finals and a lot of money/packs is on the line.
have you seen the m13 event deck? the GW one has Thragtusk, Green Sun and 2 razorverget thicket
because they're really nervous, and it's a good way to fizzle.
Hiding your hand under the table would be considered unacceptable because you can slip cards in and out while its out of sight. Some cards do not look at the hand,
but allow the other player to randomly choose a card from the other players
hand. ex: you use a sorcery to draw a card from your library. the opposing
player then plays an instant to randomly select a card from your
hand and send it to the graveyard. If you are not shuffling
your cards they could easily select the card you just got.
you were watching an epic championship with alot of stress
You should check out Shuhei Nakamura playing, he shuffle's card so fast. He also plays extremely fast, which is really nice to watch compared to this :D
Yeah, this Yu-Gi-Oh! match was kind enough to do promotions for Magic.
Duels of the Planeswalkers is definitely the better choice for if you just want to have some fun playing occasionally, but having a deck is much better for really getting into it. It just feels more personal; the cards actually feel like YOUR cards, whereas I feel like in DOTP they feel more like you're borrowing your friends deck :\
If you watch the Avacyn Pro Tour that's up they now show close ups of the cards they play , I guess if you don't know magic too well then it could be confusing
But there is still room for both. I personally love both games, and play them both avidly.
The friction energy obtained from the shuffling makes the cards deal more damage.
If you don't have opaque sleeves "sleeves that can't be seen through" you have to use checklist cards in place of any 2 sided cards.
Card flicking, in casual, is often seen as annoying and will often be punished. It doesn't really belong in the game when you're just playing for fun.
sometimes its to make sure other opponent doesnt read your hand. which is fairly easy to do. also its very addictive once you get it down.
u made my day, bro xD
Just compete in sealed, like drafts. It is way more fun and takes every Magic skill into account.
"Hot Chicks Dig Card Game Pros." Said no one, never.
Where can i buy the Magic Sleeves that Iyanaga uses?
When magic players shuffle their hands like this, on of the reasons is because of nervous tension and wanting to do something as an outlet of the excess energy from competition. It's also strategic in that it's EXTREMELY distracting for the opponent. This can cause your opponent to make mistakes.
Mostly out of nervousness and needing to think. I catch myself doing it sometimes, but its also a good way to be sure your opponent has no idea what's in your hand. Say they play Gitaxian Probe and then a spell that makes you discard cards they decide without looking at your hand?
I used to have fun with yugioh, is this game worth trying to learn?
you just answered your own question. If watching someone do that unsettles you imagine playing against it, it's extremely distracting. Also it helps disguise what cards are in their hands from the opponent
me too. i've seen some guys playing it live a few years ago and it seems to be duel masters and yugioh mixed to one game.
Protip: Every time someone searches through their library or mulligans, skip ahead 20 seconds.
You're much better off learning from a Magic player you know. Duels of the Planeswalkers for PS3 and XBox is another good way to learn.
Pro Tours are $40,000, Worlds championships are $45,000 to the winner, I believe.
In all fairness, we ARE watching the Pro Tour. This is assumed that aficionados are watching, and that they know what cards do.
I'm new to magic and I don't know how to construct a deck. I bought a simple Depths of Power deck to get me started. If they didn't make decks for new players then how can we grasp the concept of building our own?
WOW. We got a badass over here.
Does Pokemon do this? If so do they do it live and how could I watch it if they did?
If you play Mtg a lot you'll know its a very addicting thing to do and people do it (like myself) because it keeps them concentrated
it keeps the nerves down and believe it or not you focus better when your moving
how many cards are you apost to have in a tornament deck
I literally have no idea what this is about, but I watched the whole thing!! Whooh!! Bored Guy!!
I'm relatively new to Magic, can someone tell me what cards like Soaring Seacliff does? Does it mean, If i tap Soaring Seacliff then I can place a blue land card from my deck onto the battlefield? Any help will be appreciated.
the title "Magic: The Gathering World Champion" This guy is getting the ladies.
Lightning Bolt is infinitely more flexible though. It is instant speed, and can target players (and by extension deal with planeswalkers). Flame Slash is better for creatures, but in a competitive environment with a huge pool of different decks in your meta, you want something flexible rather than the extra 1 damage.
With the amount of people replying to my comment i'm amazed it's not hella thumbed up or something .
See, this is why I prefer the digital games like MTGO or Duels.
the grey colored(inkmoth nexus) land can be turned into a creature that deals infect damage. if you are dealt ten infect damage you lose. he used the land kessig wolf run to make the 1/1 flying infect into a 5/1 infect, and his opponent was not able to block it
I used to play so much Magic, which usually ended with me getting every single land I own before any creature, or every single creature I own before any lands :)
Oh correct me if I'm wrong but after the titan did the damage, he hit it with the solemn right?
Nope, because I still play it. Nothing more satisfying than coming back from 6 health and Glimmerposts to swing for lethal in one turn =)
does a person need exactly 60 cards in their deck to be able to play in a tournament?
No you just need at least 60, you can have 80 if you want to. They just always have 60 cards because there is always some cards that are really important to draw, so you want to increase your chances of drawing those important cards.
Valdemar Jørgensen And if you ever fight a mill based deck, just throw in 100 cards and it's an automatic win. Derp.
stickmanymickmany But then you will lose many other games due to having a suboptimal deck. If mill based decks are an issue, there are better ways to beat them, using cards in your sideboard.
you may play with any amount of cards you can shuffle with a reasonable amount of time so 400 million i would say is the limit
jqxok Right, with a max of 4 of any card(sometimes less) having large decks just means you have an inefficient deck :) Someone with only 60 cards has greater control over their luck than someone with more.