Rain Hiking Tips From 30 Years of Rain Hiking
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Brave the elements with these tips and tricks for hiking in the rain! With over 30 years of experience, I'll share my expert advice on how to stay safe, dry, and have a great time on your next rainy hike. Whether you're a beginner or a seasoned hiker, you'll find these tips invaluable for your next outdoor adventure.
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⏱ TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 - Intro
00:27 - Hiking in the rain
01:02 - You can't stay 100% dry
01:42 - Gear Essentials
01:57 - Pack Liner and Pack
05:31 - Rain Gear
08:27 - Layering
09:27 - Maintaining gear
11:28 - Keep some gear dry
11:54 - Footwear
12:30 - Be prepared to put wet gear on
14:01 - Trail runners
14:13 - River Crossings
14:30 - Gaiters
14:39 - Trekking poles
14:55 - Umbrellas?
15:59 - Tent setup
18:09 - Campsite
19:20 - Embrace the elements!
19:47 - Other Tips
20:30 - Food
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Regarding umbrellas. I have a pathological hatred of getting wet but do about half my walking in the Tasmanian mountains, which is a bit of a problem. I've been experimenting with umbrellas for about 20 years. This includes on walks such as Eastern Arthurs, White Monolith Range, and winter Overland Track trips.
The best way to keep dry is to use a golf umbrella with fibreglass tines. These can blow inside out in the wind but won't be damaged. Stick a rubber chair foot on the tip so they make a good walking pole. For wet weather, a Bunnings umbrella (about $10) is fine. For hot weather, a silver umbrella keeps you cool and actually reduces the amount of water you need to carry.
Umbrellas are great to:
- knock the water off wet vegetation
- keep your camera dry when photographing in the rain
- keep you and your pack dry while having lunch
- keep you dry when going to the toilet in the rain, including on Tasmanian outdoor toilets
- getting in and out of your tent
- protect you from the wind (up to a point).
I tried a small ultra light umbrella in the EAs last month and found it totally inadequate, so it's back to Bunnings for the next trip.
Note that an umbrella is in addition to a rain coat and over pants; it's not a replacement.
@@jamesmcintosh3832 wow, fantastic feedback! I saw someone with a Bunnings umbrella in the EAs last year which is what gave me the idea. Will give it a try!
Scot here with half a century of experience in similar conditions. Some of my favourite tips.
1) Brynje technical mesh vest base layer. This is basically a string vest, worn next to the skin. Used by Norwegian special forces and on the first ascent of Everest. Cap it with a light, fast-wicking, zipped base layer. It keeps wet layers off your skin and traps pockets of warm air. Undo the capping layer zip and you can dump heat instantly. Wicking Alpha fleece on top if it's cold, then a wind shirt, then the hard shell. The damp gets trapped between the wind shirt and the hard shell. Much the best system I've found.
2) Liner socks. Rather than a single thicker sock, I wear multiple layers of liner socks. These dry FAR more quickly. You can wear a damp pair to bed at night under your sleep socks and they'll be dry and toasty in the morning. Putting damp socks over the top in the morning is relatively painless.
3) If you're wearing gaiters you don't need full-length rain pants. I cut mine short and sew on a draw cord. Much easier to get on and off over my trail shoes, and you can leave the bottoms loose for ventilation in most conditions.
Hope you find some of this useful!
Hey Scot, awesome tips! Thanks so much. Looking into the mesh as well as the sock system. Sounds like a game changer!
@@mowsertas Brynje do wool and synthetic tops. I use the synthetic, which is more durable. On remote trips you can wear it for weeks without it stinking up - at least for me. Or you can wash it in a stream, and it will dry on your body in 10-15 minutes.
For the socks, I find Coolmax fabric works best.
@@tullochgorum6323 I’m on the Brynje site now. Thanks!
This was so helpful thank you! I’m actually looking into purchasing those items now!
If you don’t mind me pressing you a bit further… would you recommend any type of thermal base layer under the rain proof trousers? I see Brynje do the bottoms that match the top you were talking about. I’d appreciate any advice you might have!
@@To-ingAndFro-ing Hi Natalie. I'm probably not a good person to ask, because my legs don't get cold in anything short of extreme conditions. I simply wear old-fashioned knee breaches and gaiters. If it's well below freezing I'll indulge in a pair of long socks too. I suspect the Brynje leggings might not be very comfortable, but as I've never felt the need to try them I can't help. If you do use them, you'll have to cap them with a tight-fitting baselayer to trap the warm air - otherwise they won't do anything at all!
Great video, really helped a lot, I took notes! Great group of helpful followers on here too, you’ve a new subscriber!
Glad you found it helpful! Great bunch of subs here! Welcome aboard!
I remember arriving at the first hut on the overland track some 20 years ago to find a shivering and wet hiker who took off with shorts and a t shirt, no pack liner and no cook ware. He was trying to dry his sleeping bag over the small electric heater to no avail. We made him a hot meal, lots of hot coffee and got him warmed up and new longer clothes on. We sent him back down to cradle Mountain where his mountain bike was stashed. He just needed a plastic bag on a few things and a rain jacket and he would have been fine, plus some way of heating up some water/food.
I have had similar encounters when I used to guide on the Overland. Crazy!
I absolutly love the rain. Once out camping i was having beers with friends. After a long session i crawled into my tent and fell asleep. What i forgot to do was zip it up,... It absolutly poured down and i woke in the morning with 2 inch of water inside soaked everything i had. I never noticed with all the alcohol in me, not best idea but what an experience, i walked 3 hrs next morning in soaked clothes till i got back to car. Great experiences
sounds like good memories! Thanks for watching AND for sharing!
Great video! About the umbrella: there is no need to buy an expensive ‘trekking’ model. My everyday umbrella is just as light. I will take it on a multiday scotland hike very soon, and plan to use it as long as it is not too windy. Should also be nice at camp, if you do have to go out again you don’t have to put on your wet rain jacket.
Thanks for the tip!
Depth of knowledge from experience is exemplary and sharing it is greatly appreciated
So nice of you. Thanks for watching!
Yes, I always take my light weight Montbell umbrella. Thanks for the advice.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks Mowser, more good tips 👍
Great advice. Luckily for me it hardly ever rains in NZ
I need to get back to NZ!
Lol 😂 😂 😂
It's so much fun tramping here in New Zealand. I'm heading to do TA in October this year. 😅🙆🏻♀️
I have the yellow pack liner from Macpac and it's great. Plus dry sacks. 😁
Great timing, I’m walking the Milford in 8 weeks, where it rains more than 200 days each year 😂 wet weather protection is a priority
Good luck with it and enjoy! 😉
Thanks for your great videos Mowser. I recently tried out wearing a light cap under my raincoat hood, and found that it's really good for keeping the rain out of my face. Also it became too humid and warm to wear the raincoat on a recent walk so I took it off and draped it over the top of my pack with hood on my head- looks kind of silly but kept me fairly dry!
I have just ordered an HMG pack as I think the non absorption of water (and therefore weight) by the pack itself is a game changer.
Cheers, Aileen
Thanks so much! I like to wear my cap under my raincoat too! Nice thinking with the draping option too - if it works then looks don't matter! Enjoy the HMG pack, I love mine!
This video came up in my recommendations and I'm super happy to listen to your wisdom.
I like your easy style of communication and your knowledge based on long experience is great.
New subscriber here. I'm a Ninja Nana Tramper in New Zealand. 😊
Yes I have a small silver Kathmandu umbrella and it's great for sun and rain.
I also wear a cap 🧢 to have the peak keep the rain out of my eyes. 😅
I'd love to visit Tassie some time. ✈ 🙋🏻♀️ 🏕️
Welcome aboard! Thanks for watching and thanks for the compliment! Tassie sure is a great place to hike. I cannot wait to get back to NZ some day!
Subscribed, great tips. Yep, NOT getting back out of the tent, then nature calls, or here in the US, Bear hanging or bear canisters must be placed.
Thanks for watching!
Lots of great advice. Check out mesh base layer. Really helps with sweat.
Will check it out. Thanks!
Wow man this is the best video I have come across since wild camping. I have been actually doing most of everything you have mentioned and just thought that I was doing it wrong. I did the layering system you mentioned because I thought it was common sense but I was never completely dry. Wearing runners and smartwool socks get your feet wet almost immediately but like you just said you drive very quickly. Most of my wild camping is in England as I live here so you can imagine it's very wet. Since watching this video you made I feel reassured that I was doing most of the things right. I have not seen a video like the way you have made this which explains in detail and straight to the point.
Fantastic thank you 🙏🏼
Thanks so much, I really appreciate the comments! It really is hard to stay completely dry. Its more a matter of staying warm so even when I feel a bit damp, as long as i have the correct gear, I know I should be ok. I can imagine it's very wet in England! Thanks for watching!
Lovely upload bud and great topic actually! 👏👏
Thanks so much!
Thank you for the awesome video. I love backpacking with my Montbell travel umbrella, and it only weighs 3 ounces!
Thanks for watching! I need to check out these mont bell umbrellas!
Thanks for the share. Very helpful. Yes to the umbrella. I use a GustBuster. Rated to 50 MPH. Not willing to test it at that speed. But, the umbrella helps to keep me dry and is solid construction. My go to gear has always been Buffalo Systems Gear. Keeps me warm and comfortable without having to constantly switch gear and wear layers. My Special 6 Shirt is the best. Buffalo Gear is water resistant. But drys quickly. Same with sweat. It dissipates quickly and can be managed. I am experimenting with Hunters Element Halo Jacket for rain protection too. For me, the Hyperlight Pack wasn’t comfortable. Too much weight was resting on my shoulders than at my hips. For some reason, I could not get the weight to my hips. How did you do it? Are load lifters necessary? Cheers to a safe adventure. Wishing you peace and good fortune. Happy Trails!
Thanks for watching. I haven’t seen Buffalo Systems Gear in Australia but it looks like very high quality! I have heard similar reports from a couple of others in regards to Hyperlite packs. I haven’t had that trouble and found it sits on my hips well. When I first purchased the absence of load lifters worried me but I haven’t missed them.
Great video. I put up my rainfly first. This way I have much more room to get out of my wet clothes. Ik put the inner tent in when Im going to sleep.
Great point! Thanks for watching!
And doing the same in reverse when it's raining when I pack up is great- taking the tent inner down and packing everything up in the dry under the tent is luxury. Might make me slower tho 😊
I remember when i went for a three day hike in the rain with my friends, basically everything got wet except for our sleeping bags, which were in drybags. My cheap generic brand rain jacket let all the water in. I would've needed this video then.
Hopefully you can avoid that happening again in future now!
I would probably hike with a third of the weight that you hike with and use this weight advantage to hike slow and not sweat in my 100% rainproof polyurethane jacket. Thats what I did on the throughthike last summer at least. Eventually, everyone wets out, but I am really into minimalism recently so I can do really long days. I would love to come to New Zealand because of the challenging weather. I am used to hiking in the Norwegian Mountains and I would really like the challenge!
I spent some time in Norway last year and cannot wait to get back there! Loved it. I am in Tasmania, Australia - very similar to New Zealand with the weather though!
Great video 👍
Thanks for watching! 😄
Another great video. Any thoughts on how a Rain Skirt Kilt (in combination with gaiters) would go?
Thanks! I have seen the Rain Skirt Kilt before! Not sure how it would go in dense wilderness and would probably be no good in that environment. However, on a nice open trail it might work ok! I'd just be concerned about water splashing up underneath 😬
The combination works really well on open trails and nothing can beat the level of ventilation on your legs. I fond them fairly wind resistant as well if you get one with a strap midway.
Hey Mowser, I've stumbled upon your videos and you have amazing advice.
I know this isn't relevant to the video, but I was wondering if you have heard of Wilderness Equipment from Australia? I'm tossing up between buying the Wilderness Equipment Space 2 from Australia and another tent.
I use it in NZ conditions, so similar to Tassie conditions but I was wondering if you had heard of this brand and have any personal or word of mouth experience about this tent
Thanks for watching! Yes, have definately heard of Wilderness Equipment. Great Australian Brand that has been around for years! Their packs used to be really popular amongst the guiding community here back in the day. They have certainly gone off the radar a bit these days though. I haven't seen this tent but after a bit of research it looks like a good option and a good tent. Very similar in design to other tents including one I bought - I have recently purchased a SlingFin Portal 3 which is roomy and looks to be a great tent. A review will come in the next couple of months!
@@mowsertas Thank you so much for responding so quickly! :D
On one hand I'm super happy to hear that you will give the slingfin portal 3 a review, although it's a bummer that I can't wait and purchase it after seeing your review because I'll need to buy a new tent in the next few weeks!
Can't wait to see your review of the Slingfin Portal 3!
@@bananarama3624 I set it up the other day and first impressions are that it awesome and robust! Cannot wait to test it soon!
I have a WE Space 1. It's pretty weather proof but I don't like the way the fly sags. I always prop up the ends of the horizontal pole with an umbrella or separate pole. One Planet Goondie seems more solid
Wet socks should spend the night under your clothes on your stomach - and pretty dry in the morning.....
Good idea! I have been known to to keep them on the inside of my thermals that I’m wearing.