Oh that BP part was so nasty 😭😭 and till this day those girlies don’t write their own stuff. I’m glad I stan a group that actually enjoys music and are passionate about it. 😌💜
They do have song credits - at least some of them - now. Now they do have more control over their career so I guess they can identify with it more. Which does not mean they are my music. They are not. But more power to them for having that control after negotiations with the contract renewal. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
26:11 Nah but the amount of times we joke about something or make an edit that turned out to later be real is crazy, there is also the inside fandome joke about how bighit copies army sometimes😂
Like she said, some Kpop concept are really cool to watch, once. I even may dance on it. But that's it. Very few songs have a replay value for me. So BTS only. I always expect the unexpected with them. Just for fun, a concept that I would enjoy: A workplace concept by Yoongi. "Useless meeting", "A boss spelled Dick", "Coffee machine", "Fucking printer"...
What you have to realize is that I believe the first kpop group Zach Sang had interviewed was BTS. So asking them those questions wouldn't have been a hardship for them to answer. Even with the three rappers being the majority writers for the songs, the others also knew what the ideas were behind the work because they were part of the decisions and conversations. So I don't think he had any idea that those ladies write almost nothing, for the group or themselves. 20:50 No, he won't lose many kpop groups. Many don't want to talk about writing and production. I can think of a few groups who wouldn't have an issue with him asking those questions but there are many more who would. So him not asking those type of questions anymore will make him a bigger target for kpop to want him to interview them. ARMY hates vapid questions that BTS gets but some other groups don't mind.
I saw video called most popular kpop concepts and there was "hip-hop" and "rock" as a concept examples. I mean whole fucking music genres are just a concept for them cause they use electro guitar in music video as a decoration. They consider wearing some baggy clothes is hiphop. Idk. I love listening music. And ı grew up with meaningful, well written and produced songs. I mean at the and of the day ım listenin music with my ear. Their visuals are not important for me.
Well we knew that when the girl group from that Zach Sang interview talked about hiphop was "swag". The whole f*cking genre of hiphop to them was ONLY swag. When you don't know anything about actual music, you watch videos and see a trend that people from that genre do and think "yep, that's all that is about." Like punk isn't just spiky hair or safety pins, there are signatures in the music timing and instrumentation that label it punk. But in kpop for punk they would just use the "aesthetic" and say look at our concept.
ON also had many loose references to like the lion king, divergent and some other things i cant remember right now. But i do recall a lot of the tweets and threads from back then when the mv came out
28:05 and thats the thing, imagine training for year and you dont even know what kind of group this will be, or get eliminated or cut from the debute not because you arent talented enough or dont work hard enough, but you dont fit in the type of group they want to debute or they type of music they want to make and you just dont fit the vibe.
16:12 that song is called "On" theres 2 mv's for it, "on official mv" is the one with the story with Tae lying like a cross & Namjoon with the giraffes, the other one is "on kinetic manifesto come prima" which is a performance video. 💜 Edited again to delete an incorrect statement! (thx ARMY!)
Yes the official ON MV reflects the study of Carl Jung's psychology, there is something called "Jungian Archetypes" it's on wikipedia. Carl believed there were universal themes & ideas throughout time, archetypes are thought to be the basis of many of the common themes and symbols that appear in stories, myths, and dreams across different cultures and societies. There are themes in the bible that can be universal to many different cultures and even show up in different religions or myths. There are several, like the "flood myth" (it's also listed on wikipedia) like the biblical flood that destroyed civilization is also in other religions or stories like in Greek Mythology & Mesopotamian stories.
Ayyyyee, Bibi!!! I think the reason I like her music so much is because she also approaches her work as a cohesive body of work, and you can pick up on the themes and messages throughout the album. Her videos just strengthen that message even more and give it more impact visually.
7:03 i just found out rn🧍🏿♀️ She is what?!?!? 15:57 ppl in the comments already explained the theme for ON, so i won't add more info, but omg ur question is hilarious😭😭 17:22 Bibi is a queen 💯 26:26 so true😭
Jurnalist, because we have been following kpopl for years with this girl crush concept, I can tell you, we are soooooooooo tired of it, or at least the way certain groups carry it like dead ass lazy Paris Hilton personas. This is why New Jeans was a hit when they came out. This is why many other girl groups were rising that were doing different concepts than the girl crush concept.
KPop in general is so superficial. It's turn-your-brain-off music. Pure fluff. (And BTS is obviously not that.) It has it's place, of course. Sometimes you do need a break from seriousness and weight and need to just turn your brain off for a bit. But that's not something any intelligent person can have all the time and not get bored. And it's not anything people are going to take seriously. There has been a stigma associated with being an idol in South Korea since idols first became a thing. They're not considered artists. Mostly, they weren't even seriously considered as talented until relatively recently because a few brave and outstanding idols branched out and proved themselves in other areas of entertainment. That stigma very much has to do with the superficiality that so dominates the industry with sadly too few exceptions.
And ref the interview with bp…..THAT..right there…is pure empty industry. And why Army detests kpop, and cringe when kpop jumped on BTS coat tail and said they represent all of kpop. It’s a bait and switch…pure bait and switch…(except for hwasa/mamamoo)💜
Are they doing Jesus Christ and the ark…well..loosely they WERE crucified….and they did leave Korea on a wave to a new land and with the dove they flew..and on the mountain they kept going up and up…….
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Oh that BP part was so nasty 😭😭 and till this day those girlies don’t write their own stuff. I’m glad I stan a group that actually enjoys music and are passionate about it. 😌💜
They do have song credits - at least some of them - now.
Now they do have more control over their career so I guess they can identify with it more.
Which does not mean they are my music. They are not.
But more power to them for having that control after negotiations with the contract renewal.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@ruthfischer7615 leurs seuls pouvoir c'est de faire croire à des chose qu'elles ne sont pas
Lisa’s new song is trash and I’m disappointed because out of BP, she was the one I actually liked.
I think it's a reflection of the audience 75% of fans are superficial. This is where you make most money.
26:11 Nah but the amount of times we joke about something or make an edit that turned out to later be real is crazy, there is also the inside fandome joke about how bighit copies army sometimes😂
Like she said, some Kpop concept are really cool to watch, once. I even may dance on it. But that's it. Very few songs have a replay value for me.
So BTS only. I always expect the unexpected with them.
Just for fun, a concept that I would enjoy: A workplace concept by Yoongi. "Useless meeting", "A boss spelled Dick", "Coffee machine", "Fucking printer"...
We may get one after yoongi's service is completed 😂😂
Yoongi take my money 😂😂😂
Sound like a CEO Wattpad story I would read😅😂
What you have to realize is that I believe the first kpop group Zach Sang had interviewed was BTS. So asking them those questions wouldn't have been a hardship for them to answer. Even with the three rappers being the majority writers for the songs, the others also knew what the ideas were behind the work because they were part of the decisions and conversations. So I don't think he had any idea that those ladies write almost nothing, for the group or themselves. 20:50 No, he won't lose many kpop groups. Many don't want to talk about writing and production. I can think of a few groups who wouldn't have an issue with him asking those questions but there are many more who would. So him not asking those type of questions anymore will make him a bigger target for kpop to want him to interview them. ARMY hates vapid questions that BTS gets but some other groups don't mind.
My favourite K-pop concept (only because they're still put in the bracket) is BTS.
Let the Tannies rain supreme with their artistic freedom.
I saw video called most popular kpop concepts and there was "hip-hop" and "rock" as a concept examples. I mean whole fucking music genres are just a concept for them cause they use electro guitar in music video as a decoration. They consider wearing some baggy clothes is hiphop. Idk. I love listening music. And ı grew up with meaningful, well written and produced songs. I mean at the and of the day ım listenin music with my ear. Their visuals are not important for me.
Louderrr
Stands up and clapps loudly I couldn't agree more. Bravo well said.
Well we knew that when the girl group from that Zach Sang interview talked about hiphop was "swag". The whole f*cking genre of hiphop to them was ONLY swag. When you don't know anything about actual music, you watch videos and see a trend that people from that genre do and think "yep, that's all that is about." Like punk isn't just spiky hair or safety pins, there are signatures in the music timing and instrumentation that label it punk. But in kpop for punk they would just use the "aesthetic" and say look at our concept.
@@ebony7177didn’t they mention Rihanna being HipHop or something? 😭
@@ebony7177 yes for kpop it's all about visuals it's not about music.
Jurn you’re kind of adorable
16:04 That’s ON, the official MV. It uses a lot of biblical/religious references.
ON also had many loose references to like the lion king, divergent and some other things i cant remember right now. But i do recall a lot of the tweets and threads from back then when the mv came out
@@g100-w6j Divergent is interesting point, I thought that it was Maze Runner (the Gate part) 😊😊😊
19:31 it’s PAINFUL to watch 😭
I'm dying at this thumbnail!! It looks like you went to JHope's birthday party and hated e very moment of it 🤣🤣🤣
27:25 im kinda shocked that Jurnalist didnt comment on how RM was cosplaying at artist Tae
i had to go to the time stamp you put because i was like what?? and then i started hysterically laughing 😭😭😭😭😭
28:05 and thats the thing, imagine training for year and you dont even know what kind of group this will be, or get eliminated or cut from the debute not because you arent talented enough or dont work hard enough, but you dont fit in the type of group they want to debute or they type of music they want to make and you just dont fit the vibe.
16:12 that song is called "On" theres 2 mv's for it, "on official mv" is the one with the story with Tae lying like a cross & Namjoon with the giraffes, the other one is "on kinetic manifesto come prima" which is a performance video. 💜
Edited again to delete an incorrect statement! (thx ARMY!)
I think that last one refers to "Black Swan". The orchestral arrangement featuring the MN Dance Company came out before the official MV. ☺️💜
@@vartite oh right! Thank you, idk why I got that confused, I'll edit my comment! 💜
Yes the official ON MV reflects the study of Carl Jung's psychology, there is something called "Jungian Archetypes" it's on wikipedia. Carl believed there were universal themes & ideas throughout time, archetypes are thought to be the basis of many of the common themes and symbols that appear in stories, myths, and dreams across different cultures and societies. There are themes in the bible that can be universal to many different cultures and even show up in different religions or myths. There are several, like the "flood myth" (it's also listed on wikipedia) like the biblical flood that destroyed civilization is also in other religions or stories like in Greek Mythology & Mesopotamian stories.
@@pslinky You're welcome - glad I could help!
17:12 about weird concepts: the camp returns. Y2K already exiting, camp style is in
bora never misses
(except for that one Am I Wrong choreo unpopular opinion lol)
Ayyyyee, Bibi!!! I think the reason I like her music so much is because she also approaches her work as a cohesive body of work, and you can pick up on the themes and messages throughout the album. Her videos just strengthen that message even more and give it more impact visually.
My favourite kpop concept is one that I hardly see these days, it's the teen crush concept but by boygroups (early Astro and Seventeen)
7:03 i just found out rn🧍🏿♀️ She is what?!?!?
15:57 ppl in the comments already explained the theme for ON, so i won't add more info, but omg ur question is hilarious😭😭
17:22 Bibi is a queen 💯
26:26 so true😭
4:00 😂😊😊
Jurnalist, because we have been following kpopl for years with this girl crush concept, I can tell you, we are soooooooooo tired of it, or at least the way certain groups carry it like dead ass lazy Paris Hilton personas. This is why New Jeans was a hit when they came out. This is why many other girl groups were rising that were doing different concepts than the girl crush concept.
I totally feel that. After a while girl crush will get boring but I was nes and hwasa has me in a choke hold.
"nes" ?
KPop in general is so superficial. It's turn-your-brain-off music. Pure fluff. (And BTS is obviously not that.) It has it's place, of course. Sometimes you do need a break from seriousness and weight and need to just turn your brain off for a bit. But that's not something any intelligent person can have all the time and not get bored. And it's not anything people are going to take seriously. There has been a stigma associated with being an idol in South Korea since idols first became a thing. They're not considered artists. Mostly, they weren't even seriously considered as talented until relatively recently because a few brave and outstanding idols branched out and proved themselves in other areas of entertainment. That stigma very much has to do with the superficiality that so dominates the industry with sadly too few exceptions.
💜💜💜💜
4:05. 4:27 7:00 18:54 24:24
K-pop was the same and repetitive but at least the songs were good but nowadays? The music is trash and it’s even more boring.
And ref the interview with bp…..THAT..right there…is pure empty industry. And why Army detests kpop, and cringe when kpop jumped on BTS coat tail and said they represent all of kpop. It’s a bait and switch…pure bait and switch…(except for hwasa/mamamoo)💜
Are they doing Jesus Christ and the ark…well..loosely they WERE crucified….and they did leave Korea on a wave to a new land and with the dove they flew..and on the mountain they kept going up and up…….
The BTS biblical/religious mv is for ON. Many references, not just to the Ark. Deep.
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