Ultimate Nissan LEAF Battery Upgrade (62kWh)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 พ.ย. 2022
- We've done the budget, now it's time for the deluxe upgrade!
First of all, I recommend checking out the earlier battery upgrade videos. Then check out this text based guide to get more familiar with what is needed. github.com/dalathegreat/Nissa...
This video just goes thru the specific challenges related to the larger 62kWh, and what extra work that is required to make it fit.
Part numbers:
The part number is 55020-5SJ1B for ePlus rear springs, 2 needed.
748N3-5SN0A Splash shield 3
748N2-5SN0A Splash shield 2
74811-5SN0A Splash shield 1
740D1-5SN0A Rear mount LH side
740D0-5SN0A Rear mount RH side - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
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This is amazing. This kind of independent repair shop upgrades and repairs must be easy to implement by design; mandatorily. This will save millions of cars from scrapyards and prevent waste of resources. Thank you Dala.
I couldn't agree more. Any authority claiming to be green should legislate against completely artificial digital lock-outs to repair, replacement and maintenance of *all* devices.
@@rbettsx Apple.
It's amazing to think that the battery capacity has increased 260% while it has only become 40mm taller. Technology at work!
Can comment on how much it would cost to do the upgrade
😀 Thanks again for supporting the Leaf community!
Great video! Thank you for all your contribution to the Nissan Leaf 2011-2017 community.😊 Keep up the good work!👍
Great work again as always! Customer is very happy.
A great video on installing a bigger fuel tank, it makes a big range difference.
Only finding this now... wow. Just wow. NISSAN NEEDS YOU!
Thanks. Excellent video as always.
Brilliantly done. I was considering this but then I was rear ended by an old man. Now I'm waiting for an MG4. :)
Nice work! I'm only hanging onto my 24kW in the hope that I'll come across a salvage 62kW :D
my is down to 70% capacity😩
The 62kw start from what year ?
2019
@@sabahameer2620
You can buy new cells and put in it.
Awesome job mate!
I have a crazy idea, and I think you would love it!
I'm in Helsinki, but if you like the idea, I could come there to the west cost! Anyways, congrats for the great work!
Brilliantly done ✅
Tidy job done ,thanks for the view
Nice tidy job. Well done!
Good job! Wish I had skills like yours
I have been looking for a good battery to do this. I intend to buy your CAN bridge when I can find a pack. It will be going into a 2013 Leaf.
Nice to know the budget
Wish we had someone like you in Germany!👍👍👍👍👍🇪🇺🇺🇦🕊️
Thanks 🙏
And in Denmark doing the Mercedes B250e 😊
Brilliant video......I could have watched the whole day's work if it had been filmed. I have just bought a Japanese import Leaf from 2010. It has a maximum range of approximately 70km, has around 70,000km on the clock, but drives beautifully. I would be really interested in doing this upgrade but the question would be where to find a battery?
I read that you can get them from salvaged damaged Leafs. Need someone to check it.
nice upgrade!
thanks for sharing. are you sourcing the 62kWh battery from NISSAN ?
Well done Dala. I hope to come across a 62kW one day for mine.
Good luck with the search!
@@DalasEVRepair Would you teach tecnique here in Italy? Nobody offer battery upgrade for Nissan Leaf
Hi Dala, you surely got my respect. Great job and happy New Year!
I own one of the first 2011 Leaf models without a power charging socket. Which means the battery's life is still quite good.
Nonetheless, with everything else in good nick, what kind of upgrade would you recommend since a full charge might take more than 8 hours.
Happy new year!
I would be on the lookout for a fresher battery (30/40/62), and keep in mind that you can also add Chademo , I have another video on that topic!
@Dala's EV Repair you mean the massive job video of yours on adding fast charging Chademo to the car. Okay, that's beyond my capability, and Finland is a 2 days petrol ride from my place.
Having someone do it for me is probably cheaper to look for a younger model with supercharge already mounted.
Great video Dala! What are you using for the little anti-crush inserts @1:30 ? Some cut down pipe of some kind?
Yes cut down 16mm? pipe!
Great video! Thansk for the parts numbers as well.
A question, though. At 4:50 you said there may be some links to pics of the adapter plates that are sandwiched in. Would be interested to see a bit more about how exactly those were implemented. Not sure you had time to take extra pictures to share, but any that you have to help better visualize what you did would be really appreciated.
Thanks again for all that you do for the Nissan Leaf community!
Taattua laatua! Hieno video.
Kiitos 😁
Well done, Dala👍
Great job, no doubt about it. My wife drives a 2011 leaf since Nov 2010. She loves it. However, it only goes 32km (20 miles) at full charge now. I don't wanna mention the range when A/C is turned on.
I looked around at the battery swap options.
You won't believe how this turned into a business. I called tremendous of a number of junkyards where they get tier cars from the insurance company or directly from the people.
Leafs arrive without a battery. Some people just collect them and sell them over the internet and you can tell that it is not cheap at all. This became a good business. You need to do a great calculation that if the swap makes sense,
Nissan offers a new battery if you are ready to pay $12,000 CAD if you are ready to pay 2011 GEN1 battery pack.
My question to you is: As we all know, there is nothing wrong with the car and there is no need to buy a new car until cars would have full capability to have fully autonomous driving. Why Nissan just produces the new battery pack compatible with their older models; we all know it is simple as producing a laptop battery for older laptops. What do you guys think?
They are probably worried that cheap replacement packs would go straight to stationary storage, so best to simply don't offer it. Also new car sales would be affected.
@@DalasEVRepair Thank you Dala. It is all about selling more cars than selling and providing new batteries. Let me know when you decide to have your vacation/holiday in Vancouver Canada Area. Love to catch up.
@@DalasEVRepair Leaf is like WW Beatle. Great classic! Still miss my LEAF, but always with LOVE. Happy with second gen. Ioniq,sorry,
@@m.necatisepetcioglu4391 Yes, the dealer wants to sell more EV cars instead of replacing a new big battery installation. I am in Vancouver too
@@DalasEVRepair Yep, 60kW would go straight to solar storage if a good price
mahtava video! nyt harmittaa kun ostin turhaan kalliimman ladattavan kun olis voinut saada samalla hinnalla halvimmman leaffin uudemmalla akulla.
Ei harmita kun muistaa että Chademo poistuu jo julkisista latureista. Paitsi tietysti jos ostit leafin.
brilliant! very impressive
Great video! 😀 Wouldn't mind upgrading to a 62 kWh or even a 40 kWh one, but that will have to wait until I won the lottery or something.
30-50 km of range on current 24 kWh pack will have to do for now.
Omg... Range anxiety?
@@chrisE815 My daily trips are a maximum of 35 km so I have learnt to live with it, and to estimate my range at current temperature and use of heater.
Under -15 C it however becomes difficult to make it. Turtle mode after just a few kilometers and range anxiety sets in... The battery heats up after that giving some range back, but I usually try to borrow a petrol car in cold weather and obviously for all longer trips.
Wow. Did that battery get some really bad abuse?
Yikes! We still get just about 100km from ours, just lost the first health bar. Although it's the updated model (2013?) and built in 2015.
Do you have the original/first model? How old and how many km total? Did you kinda abuse it like always charging to 100% and stuff?
We love this car and hope to drive it for a long time!
Hello you are great I really admire you . I haven't found on your video but did you succeed increasing the leaf's AC plug to 22kwh ? Thank you
Amazing job!!! 446km/277 miles!!! Hey did you see evsenhanced has a thermally managed battery for the leaf?
it's probably really expensive compared to normal one and here in northern countries, you dont really need the thermal managment most of the time :) Snowy countries are the leaf countries.
I saw that, I think theirs was only 40 kWh, but it's a start! I hope one day to put a 62+ kWh thermally managed pack in my '18 LEAF. Still excited for progress on the CCS mod too!
@@JohnVance EVsEnhanced is going to have 3 different models. The first is 40kWh, the second will be 70kWh, and the 3rd high-performance model hasn't had the capacity announced yet.
My question is what about charging still only sport 50 kw chargers ? How long does it takes to charge
Hello and congrats for this excellent video.
May I know please, is it possible to upgrade a 2021 Leaf 40kw battery to 62kw battery?
Will it be easier or harder to replace it ?
Also with a new 40kw battery swap to another of 62kw battery how much you thing will be the cost difference?
Exact same procedure on 40kWh LEAF
So , I was thinking , what would happen if you installed a 62 KW battery into a 2011 Leaf? Could the area in the trunk where the original electronics for the battery sat be turned into a way to blow air into and out of the rear battery module for cooling? The Toyota Prius did something similar. It had an air intake in the cabin area of the rear seat. The first gen Prius used air to cool their battery. If 2 or 3 inch flexible hoses could be cut into the top of the rear of the battery pack, they could be fed up into the body behind the rear seat. A fan with an air filter could take air from inside the back area of the car on one side send it through the battery pack and exhaust it back into the car on the other side or possibly out into the inner fender or body on the other side. It might be possible to install a kind of blend air damper.
This is all just a thought. I know there are other factors to deal with but the first gen leaf had that hump all the way across behind the rear seat when newer vehicles didn't.
You sir, are a Wizard !
Haha if you own a 24 kw/h Leaf and watch you turn on this one, it's quite amazing to see 446 km range after hearing the familiar little startup sound. I suppose we'll upgrade in a few years if the rest of the car keeps holding up.
I recommend rustproofing the underside of the LEAF to allowing it a fighting chance 😅
@@DalasEVRepair Oh thanks! Our local mechanic said the car is completely enclosed from underneath, we don't have to do anything... He said that when I asked him if I should get an undercarriage wash after the winter. 🤔
@@adddude7524 unfortunately not true. Sills and wheel arches rust.
Great!! then how fast for how far?
Bob, is there new modules that you are aware of to upgrade a 24 KWH 2013 to a 40 KWH?
Great work!
Thanks 😁
Great work! :) Some questions, will the brakes need to be upgraded as well, due to extra weight?
And what about 'type approval' for the vehicle, will it be approved in the next semi yearly 'MOT'-test / EU-control with the extra weight and new battery?
No need to upgrade brakes, e+ uses same as on old LEAF
This depends on your county. I can point you to the Finnish legal paragraphs, stating that when using OEM parts this upgrade is OK. So yes it will pass MOT/EU control here! (just remember to submit the change in weight!)
Congrats on collecting a 62kwh pack!
Thanks for paving the way 💪
@@DalasEVRepair hardly... Many thanks to you and Emile
After performing the final 180Kw power upgrade, will you do some weight reduction, and maybe put on coil-overs, stronger brakes and semi slicks like NS-2Rs? Would be quite a mental machine on the track.
Yes! Keep following the channel 😉
I want also change my car battery Nissan Leaf 2012 24KWH To 62KWH how do it
Wait for 100kWh next level upgrade.... Lifepo4 battery or better 😎 💪
Puoi farcela!
great job !
Astonishing
Interesting upgrade.
Wow I didn't realize the Nissan Leaf could go that far.
Mr. Daniel, you are really a wonderful person and you work very professionally. Thanks Daniel
But where do you live, Mr. Daniel?
🇫🇮
@@DalasEVRepair You are the best, Mr. Daniel
@@DalasEVRepair Is there a way to travel with you from Jordan? Finland is my sweet heart
We need more Dala's in the world. How do we scale your efforts up? I've liked and subscribed sir. Great work! I have a 2018 w 40kwh and 92k miles on it. How much does a 62kwh run for? I can google it of course but you actually have purchased them. It is a big deal for me as I need to decide what to do as the miles keep creeping up. Thank you!
In northern EU, these go for 9-11k€!
@@DalasEVRepair 9-11k€ is a reasonable price tag. I hope people can do it in Vancouver
@@danielleung4535 i purchased another one last week for 7k
Yes, of course I will eventually swap my 70% SoC 30kwh battery for a 62kWh if I can source one, but I can't be bothered to all of that soldering stuff. Off the shelf diy adapters kit or it won't happen for me.
Muxsan sells it
Hi Dala!
How much did cost the big pack?
Where did You get it?
Also, I live in Latvia and for winter or summer field rides I do put higher profile tyres...
At the moment I drive Octavia 06' tdi on high 16' wheels, it looks like 4x4😁
My wife has Note, and we are due to swap it to "old" Leaf..
Solar bought, not installed yet..
I've seen 62kWh packs go for anywhere between 8 to 12kE!
@@DalasEVRepair before Ukraine/ork war leafs went for 5-7k, now bout 10er.. still a great family investment, just maybe have to have some ecu battery temperature mesurment on some screen to keep eye on.
I want to increase the battery capacity of my Mahindra e20 plus car from 11kwh to 16 kwh,I have made all the physical connections so that battery is can be charged through existing bms,car is running but there is no modifications in cluster reading and SOC status.what kind of software modifications or shunt modifications needed to solve the problem? Please help
Hi! Where I can purchase this 62 kwh battery?
If one would like to eventually replace rhe 40kwh battery with the 62kwh on a leaf18, then there would be the same mounting brackets issue as between the two just like in this case even with the newer chassis on the leaf18?
Yes, same issues!
Dala, could a battery update 24 → 40kWh for the ZE0 be done by changing the modules inside the battery housing? So 24 modules 14,4V would replace 48 modules 7,2V?
Yes, but this upgrade is crazy dangerous compared to just installing OEM non-modified packs. I wouldn't even trust myself to do this upgrade!
of course,wo can upgrade to40k ,53k,64k
I have the same 62 kWh in my 2014 leaf. It was installed in Poland 2022.02 in Radom, company: "elektryka u Patryka"
Problems:
For me, it shows the battery percentages wrong, LeafSpy is essential.
Only the first plastic under the engine fit.
You maybe need an updated CAN-bridge. Ask them what they used, I can also supply these.
@@DalasEVRepair
For me, the battery percentages are shown on the display in the car in the range of 11-93%
11 is zero
93 is full
I have to look at LifeSpy or to the right for available kilometers.
The person who assembled it said that it has to be like this and nothing will be done about it 🥴
Dala: Awesome job!
Where are you located?
I have 2012 Nissan Leaf currently with 6 bars left.
How much will you charge me to upgrade to 62KW battery
Sorry I dont take on customers! I suggest DIYing it with a local garage. Batteries can easily be sourced from Norway. 62kWh runs for about 6k
Great work...but.... (new subscriber question). How much does it cost for the upgrade? Cheers from NW Ontario Canada
Can't say about Canada, but in the EU these batteries can be purchased for around 8 to 12k!
Anyone know were to get a Ford Cmax Energy battery?
Good Work! 277 mile range for a Leaf is awesome! Is there a resource for transplanting a Leaf motor/batteries/control system into a classic sports car either front engine/rear drive layout? (Subject is a 1965 Triumph Spitfire.) Any help is much appreciated.
Jump on the diyelectriccar forum and check out similar builds!
Hi, I bought a new 62kw Leaf 12 months ago, it now has 25,000 kilometers & I only ever got 350/360 kilometer range per full charge, nowhere near 440 kilometers. Also because it is now 0 degrees in Ireland my range is showing only 280 kilometers when 100% charged.
My leaf 2018 40kw in Canada, now I get 250 km in summer but I can only get 150 km in winter.
What a brilliant video and channel. I'd love to do this on my 2011 Leaf. Not sure I'd manage it on my own, nor if I'd be able to find a battery in Scotland. Maybe one for next year!
Thanks for watching, good luck with the search for a bigger battery!
With lots of manufacturers working on solid-state batteries that would be more energy dense, do you think/would you test if they would work with a Nissan leaf?
Depends on EU legislation within X years
more weight more power more battery used ?
Dala (or anyone),
In your calculations, does it cost less to buy a ZE0 leaf and upgrade it to 62 kwh, or to just buy a Leaf+ (new or used) with the 62 kwh battery from the factory?
In Finland it is cheaper to ugrade old LEAF (10k car + 10k battery), versus 35k native 62kWh leaf
What year was the donor pack from and what model rear is the recipient?
2022 62kWh pack into 2016 30kWh LEAF
If I could get hold of a 62kw/h batteri I definitly would upgrade.
sure, We can help do that
Do you do these for others ?
Did that new mounting also meant 40 mm less ground clearance? If so might be problem on some speed bumps.
Correct, but with the stiffer springs this shouldn't be a big issue. The LEAF rides very high compared to sportier cars on the market.
Amazing swap thanks for doing Vids like this also can you speak about the cost of this I installations and what was done with the old battery etc please 🙏 would be very interesting information to hear
62kWh packs can be bought for between 8-12k in the EU. The old battery will be put into a stationary storage system, to be used along solar!
@@DalasEVRepair that's great news to hear that the old battery is being recycled are you doing this by yourself as well ??
@@randunufdo1 yes see my DIY powerwall build for an example
@@DalasEVRepair great thanks I will surely check it out.
I realise this is an old video, so you may not reply, but thanks for all your work.
As I am just at the start of an EV conversion using Resolve-EV with a 24kWh Leaf, do you have any thoughts on using Chinese new alternatives for 62kWh battery packs? Finding Leaf’s is not easy and I’d like longer range, but I lack confidence in sending so much money for something it is hard to know much detail about.
If you use chinese cells, might be best to skip the Resolve EV and get another BMS for the cells. It is not easy to get the chinese cells to have correct control with the LEAF BMS.
Look into the zombieverter project?
@@DalasEVRepair thanks for the response! I’m starting simple to make sure I succeed! Resolve-EV seemed ideal for me for that reason, but inevitably there are compromises. Maybe project 2 will be a bit more in depth and offer more flexibility.
As I continued to bounce around the internet, I saw a recent post from Muxsan, suggesting they are imminently offering new batteries for Leafs, so will see where that goes.
BTW- You are partly responsible for the growing number of vehicles on our driveway! Started with old VW T2. Then bought v low mileage 2014 Leaf for cheap, just to learn and feel what they’re like, and to see where it might lead me. Then bought a very broken VW T2 and more broken 2015 Leaf to practice merging them together. If it all works out I then migrate the electrification over to my current VW T2. The wife is very tolerating…!
I had two leafs 2013 Anda 2014 was just with this much capacity I would never get rid of it
I’ve been look at the leaf & the battery upgrade but the new MG4 is now so cheap in comparison, what are your thoughts on it in comparison?
No clue, I mainly look at 10 year old platforms 😅
I am in northern Indiana, USA, and there is a 2011 or 12 leaf for sale for nine months. I think he wants 6000 for it. If the OEM battery is kaput, I may consider buying this car and doing the big battery upgrade
I wonder what orbs were flying past at 8:40? Vasa UFO sighting 2022
Has anyone investigated putting better air cooling on the Nissan leaf battery?
I’ve read of ducted air con to the battery making improvement.
Edit : found a video elsewhere showing 3D printed duct & hose to connect air conducting dash vent outlet to the battery isolator on floor at back seat. Unfortunately this made little noticeable difference as it was blowing air over the sealed battery pack housing, not through it.
I’m thinking dry non humid air blown through the sealed battery pack _might_ make a noticeable difference if the battery-air heat exchange does not leave hotspots. Would be a very experimental process to test.
With such a battery, doesn't it make it more difficult to jump onto the edge?
I do not see a link to the upgraded springs. thank you!
From the video description: "The part number is 55020-5SJ1B for ePlus rear springs, 2 needed."
how much it costs to replace batt. ?
Я оставлял заявку на покупку вашего КАН-МОСТА. Вы мне не ответили. Как я могу купить его?
What about the software used to pair the new battery with the car?
All explained here: www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?p=614047#p614047
Hi, dala I have one question . Active pooling to HVBAT in aze0 is working after replacing battery from ZE1? There is different response 7BB ze0 vs ze1 and after checking your code there is no translation for 7BB response.
Active polling is exactly the same for battery
As a mechanical novice I just want to clarify something. Using the mounts you showed, a 62kwh battery pack attached directly to a MK1 Leaf, and all the electrics and electronics were just plug and play. Is this correct? And from the point of having the battery removed, this took you just a single day??
Check out the wiki github.com/dalathegreat/Nissan-LEAF-Battery-Upgrade/wiki
how much did the 62kw battery cost?
Easily 18k is my guess
Realy Nice job. Wath is the price for this operation?
Around 10 large ones!
I have 2018 Leaf with 175 000km. In summer I Can use 30kW from 100% to 0%. This winter it Feels like 24kW pack. I think I will bet your Next custumer for upgrade. It is not far from Latvia.
Hello Dala I have two questions:
1.do the inverter handle the load and driving 400 km continuously without stoping ??
2.do the battery needs cooling since the the old battery doesn’t have a lot of load but now if you drive high range there might be load and need cooling in summer??
Thanks in advance
1. Yes
2. No cooling needed. It wouldn't hurt to have cooling, but it works without!
Thank you so much for answering
Where do you get your CAN bridge and software? I'm just about to do a conversion for a customer
I get them via DalasEVrepair 😁
Hi
Did you try battery upgrade for BMW i3
If not please make a video on I3 battery upgrade
Yes I have a video on 120Ah upgrade!
If I change my 2012 ze0, I'd switch to 2015 aze0 first and then get 40 kWh replacement battery.
Full respect but it needs a proper ( not Nissan) BMS around it for cooling and heating or it’s a waste of time and money.
Give all the honors
Did I missed a description for reproducing the bracket / spacer? As mention in the video 😅
I updated the description with a new link!
Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
You are good person with good vision for the future to make the world a better place.
hello. about the CAN bridge.... would you elaborate more as to why not using CONSULT 3 PLUS for any software installations. What was the software and where did you installed on? thank you
Consult3+ does not help at all. It cannot be used for upgrades, only direct replacements (24 to 24).
I have written my own software for upgrades, source code available for Patreons.
@@DalasEVRepair oh, okay. Congratulation then, would you explain what is it do? your software....
thank you
Did you buy a new 62kwh battery ?
I drive a Nissan leaf daily great wee car only thing is its lack of miles .
In summer full charge registers as 128 -138 Mickey Mouse Miles estimate
in winter Full charge registers as 117 - 122 Mickey Mouse Miles estimate
what would the cost be for this larger battery pack as i find 95% = 446 miles estimate rather amazing
Great video thanks for sharing
Edit i think i have the 40 kWh battery just now .
I'm amazed at the increase in miles for just an extra 22kw to make 62kw = +306 EXTRA MILES
446km =\= 446miles
Sorry ive quoted my miles 128 = 206 kilometres
so 446 kilometres are 277.132 miles that makes more sense now . Yes great video
We need this in the uk 🇬🇧
Hello Dela, do you finish modification to use CCS on Nissan Leaf?
Working on it!