Am I the only person that thinks the standard height is a bit too tall to start with? I get that it has to be tall to have that much travel, but i'm 180 cm's and struggle to touch the ground. It's quite uncomfortable when trying to ride in technical stuff. It may be just me......Any thoughts?
Totally agree. Feels like they could go from the factory a bit lower and it is much less effort and no fuss with suspension when someone is taller and can just get a higher seat if needed.
@@TubieSlate My 2007 450EXC-F was a great height, and still had heaps of travel. I reckon they've gone 'height crazy' as the seat height, on the 500, is far too much for the average person. I absolutely love my 2023 Six Days France, but it's an acrobatic manoeuvre to swing a leg over, and you need to 'pick a bum cheek to be on', when you pull up. Believe it, or not, as far as I can recall, my 1988 GS250 was even taller than the current 500! 30 years ago I was much more nimble, though!
I'm with ya buddy. I just bought a KTM 150 XC W, and I'm 5'6" 135 pounds. Not only do my feet not touch the ground but I have trouble getting my leg over the bike. I don't know why these new bikes are all being built for 6'0" and taller riders. Especially when the general population of men in this country are in the 5'8" range. Which would at least let me get on the damn bike and touch the ground. Frustrating. I'm no newbie either. I started riding off road and MX bikes in 1972 and have owned several dirt bikes over the past 50+ years. It's a fact that these bikes are higher and designed for tall riders.
What is the thickness difference between the stock shock spacer and the lowering spacer? I'm making a seal head spacer and would like to end up with 3/4 drop. I'm thinking 6.75mm should be right?
Not saying I'm floating in money because believe me I'm not but instead of investing in specific tools that I would use once, could my KTM dealership install this kit for me? I do all of my own work on my dirt bikes ( 2023 Gas Gas TXT 300 trials bike and my new KTM 150 SC W) but honestly I'd be fearful of trying to do major suspension work. Id be happy to pay the dealership.
I know I'm quite late to the party - but wouldn't this lowering method cause more preload? As the springs are kept the same (not shorter), only the shock will travel lesser distance so effectively compressing the spring more.
springs are same but on the shock you simply move the preload adjuster and in the fork that plastic piece 3:55 is taller than the new piece from lowering kit (spring is pushing on this part) so that will compesate the spring length to correct preload
@@lukasraus3391 oh like that make sense. hopefully you don't need the softest setting on the shock as I understand that will be lost (be a little a harder than before like I thought). forks I guess have also preload adjustment so you compensate with that, correct?
@@kovrcek there will be no change on the spring preload at all - on the shock - preload adjuster will compansate the lowering kit and on the fork you simpy lower the fork but makes more room inside the fork for the spring (thx to that silver part from the kit) so preload of the spring stay same so the setting of the fork/shock is the same as before lowering kit
@@lukasraus3391 thanks for your patience. ok I think I get the forks now. But still the rear shock spring stays the same so yeah you can compensate with preload but you are moving the softest preload setting up a little bit. As the initial preload setting (when the knob is zero is now maybe 2 clicks harder). So you lose a little bit on the softest setting and "get" a little harder on the hardest settings. I'm just curious cause I want to buy this machine and I'm only 178cm so would like to lower it and weighing all the options out there.
@@MotoCityTV ah got it! Big loss for them. Is this channel where you'll be posting a bunch of your content or will you post to your Kyle Bradshaw account?
Hmm Sorry, but the guy who put that shock together made many mistakes.... He set the reservoir piston dimension before head installed the seal head. SO, when he pushed the seal head into the shock body he displaced the piston. Now the Nitrogen volume to oil ratio is Incorrect. The accumulator piston now has limited travel and will not be able to accommodate the increased oil volume. When that shock goes through half it's stroke it will hydraulically bound and cause severe and harsh jolt to the bike and the rider. Also by not inverting the shock and cycling it through it's stroke and Failed to bleed the air out. There is air in the oil and the dampening action will be erratic and inconsistent. Too bad the owner of that bike will have a FAILED suspension system.... SAD >;)
Ya! Great! Now some poor guy that’s only 6’-3” can touch the ground on it…lol. Talk to me when you have something for a guy 5’-6”… I hate adventure bike manufacturers…lol…
Yeah right? We all want 13" + of suspension travel but want to flat foot when we come to a stop. The new Harley Pan America almost does that ;) The self lowering feature was pretty neat when we test rode it. 2" drop when the brakes are applied coming to a stop!
Even being 6' it's pretty tall and hard to get any kind of ground contact. I'd hate to be any shorter (to ride the bike. Not dissing your height, mate)....I get where you're coming from. I've had to change my stretching exercises to not strain my inner thigh, when throwing my leg over mine. Insanely tall and hard to get used to.
That's my brother! Wow that's so cool! He does this so masterfully!
So cool! He is a Pro!
Am I the only person that thinks the standard height is a bit too tall to start with? I get that it has to be tall to have that much travel, but i'm 180 cm's and struggle to touch the ground. It's quite uncomfortable when trying to ride in technical stuff. It may be just me......Any thoughts?
Totally agree. Feels like they could go from the factory a bit lower and it is much less effort and no fuss with suspension when someone is taller and can just get a higher seat if needed.
@@TubieSlate My 2007 450EXC-F was a great height, and still had heaps of travel. I reckon they've gone 'height crazy' as the seat height, on the 500, is far too much for the average person. I absolutely love my 2023 Six Days France, but it's an acrobatic manoeuvre to swing a leg over, and you need to 'pick a bum cheek to be on', when you pull up. Believe it, or not, as far as I can recall, my 1988 GS250 was even taller than the current 500! 30 years ago I was much more nimble, though!
I'm with ya buddy. I just bought a KTM 150 XC W, and I'm 5'6" 135 pounds. Not only do my feet not touch the ground but I have trouble getting my leg over the bike. I don't know why these new bikes are all being built for 6'0" and taller riders. Especially when the general population of men in this country are in the 5'8" range. Which would at least let me get on the damn bike and touch the ground. Frustrating. I'm no newbie either. I started riding off road and MX bikes in 1972 and have owned several dirt bikes over the past 50+ years. It's a fact that these bikes are higher and designed for tall riders.
What is the thickness difference between the stock shock spacer and the lowering spacer? I'm making a seal head spacer and would like to end up with 3/4 drop. I'm thinking 6.75mm should be right?
Is there 50mm lowering kit, you got that video?
Nice video, did you not record the Nitrogen removal/intenal damper re-adjustment (pushing out excess oil)/Nitogen refill or just skip doing it?
Not saying I'm floating in money because believe me I'm not but instead of investing in specific tools that I would use once, could my KTM dealership install this kit for me? I do all of my own work on my dirt bikes ( 2023 Gas Gas TXT 300 trials bike and my new KTM 150 SC W) but honestly I'd be fearful of trying to do major suspension work. Id be happy to pay the dealership.
Just get a 20-35mm low profile seat. 2 min later your there
How much will you estimate to do the labor of that
I know I'm quite late to the party - but wouldn't this lowering method cause more preload? As the springs are kept the same (not shorter), only the shock will travel lesser distance so effectively compressing the spring more.
springs are same but on the shock you simply move the preload adjuster and in the fork that plastic piece 3:55 is taller than the new piece from lowering kit (spring is pushing on this part) so that will compesate the spring length to correct preload
@@lukasraus3391 oh like that make sense. hopefully you don't need the softest setting on the shock as I understand that will be lost (be a little a harder than before like I thought). forks I guess have also preload adjustment so you compensate with that, correct?
@@kovrcek there will be no change on the spring preload at all - on the shock - preload adjuster will compansate the lowering kit and on the fork you simpy lower the fork but makes more room inside the fork for the spring (thx to that silver part from the kit) so preload of the spring stay same so the setting of the fork/shock is the same as before lowering kit
@@lukasraus3391 thanks for your patience. ok I think I get the forks now. But still the rear shock spring stays the same so yeah you can compensate with preload but you are moving the softest preload setting up a little bit. As the initial preload setting (when the knob is zero is now maybe 2 clicks harder). So you lose a little bit on the softest setting and "get" a little harder on the hardest settings. I'm just curious cause I want to buy this machine and I'm only 178cm so would like to lower it and weighing all the options out there.
2004 300 ktm any kits?
Why u not lowering front shockkk??
The front forks? They were lowered.
@@MotoCityTV i mean front suspension....its easy to do that right? you just loosen the bolt, lower the suspension, then tighten it again.
@@Dsky-vu3nz are you talking about dropping the fork tubes down??
@@Thefitmotochic he mean front fork cilinder move up releasing 4x2 bolts. ?
Kyle, are you no longer with Chaparral??
Nope. Have not been there since March of 2020. The family and I moved to AZ in February and we teamed up with MotoCity Powersports.
@@MotoCityTV ah got it! Big loss for them. Is this channel where you'll be posting a bunch of your content or will you post to your Kyle Bradshaw account?
Both here and my Kyle Bradshaw account. More business stuff here... and more "rough cut" fun stuff over on the other channel.
@@MotoCityTV how to order this lowering kit for KTM 6days 2022?
What is the difference in ground clearance??
About 3/4 of an inch.
About 20mm 🤣🤣
Muchas gracias fue de gran ayuda gracias y gracias
Good stuff. I love that bike also
We love it too ;)
The price is cheap enough… $160.00 for 3/4”… do you think they could lower it 10” or so for $1600.00… lol… that would work…
Ha! Ha! Ha! Maybe put it on air bags? Drop it to the skid plate when stopped but full height wen ridding ;)
Hmm Sorry, but the guy who put that shock together made many mistakes.... He set the reservoir piston dimension before head installed the seal head.
SO, when he pushed the seal head into the shock body he displaced the piston. Now the Nitrogen volume to oil ratio is Incorrect. The accumulator piston now has limited travel and will not be able to accommodate the increased oil volume. When that shock goes through half it's stroke it will hydraulically bound and cause severe and harsh jolt to the bike and the rider. Also by not inverting the shock and cycling it through it's stroke and Failed to bleed the air out. There is air in the oil and the dampening action will be erratic and inconsistent. Too bad the owner of that bike will have a FAILED suspension system.... SAD >;)
also that oil chamber was probably full of air bubles - i am using shock bleeder :D
Ya! Great! Now some poor guy that’s only 6’-3” can touch the ground on it…lol. Talk to me when you have something for a guy 5’-6”… I hate adventure bike manufacturers…lol…
Yeah right? We all want 13" + of suspension travel but want to flat foot when we come to a stop. The new Harley Pan America almost does that ;) The self lowering feature was pretty neat when we test rode it. 2" drop when the brakes are applied coming to a stop!
Even being 6' it's pretty tall and hard to get any kind of ground contact. I'd hate to be any shorter (to ride the bike. Not dissing your height, mate)....I get where you're coming from. I've had to change my stretching exercises to not strain my inner thigh, when throwing my leg over mine. Insanely tall and hard to get used to.