Is It Worth It To Buy A Phyrexia All Will Be One Commander Deck? | A Magic: The Gathering Review
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I've created a new format and would very much enjoy explaining the details to you Sir.
I feel like “the product is well designed and fun, but the price is too darned high” is Magic’s new motto.
Wizards of the Undervalued Coast
At least Wizards is not ruining the game of Magic in the same way that they are DEMOLISHING D&D, though.
@@jacob4920idk that is fairly arguable
$40 is not too expensive….
@@SuperRaids13 while I agree, some folks just don't have that money in this shart economy
To be extra clear: The Zendikar Rising Commander decks only had 3 original card designs, but by Kaldheim these $19.99 Commander decks had increased to 8 new card designs. These ONE Commander decks only have 10 original designs. This reduction from 15 began with Dominaira United.
loved the kaldheim commander decks...
The starter decks/kaldheim decks and zendikar rising decks have been the best precons bar none.
The "normal" commander precons have routinely been some of the worst experiences I've had playing the game as a casual player. They are overly complex and tend to really go hard on gimmicks that need upgrades to work well. They also seem to require a few playthroughs to get a grasp on. When you only play every now and then, these slog games stick out like a sore thumb. Huge turnoffs for your friends that are familiar with magic and want to play.
The normal commander precons and their designed for commander cards have completely modified the format away from whatever EDH was and sheldon thinks it is. Anyone that thinks WOTC isn't fully in control of the format is naive beyond belief. It's really starting to resesmble all the other constructed formats I dont want to play.
EDH and the philosophy are dead.
Long live WOTC Commander
Two of the five decks I own are based on the Kaldheim commanders Lathril and Ranar. I've bought other precons over the years, but they've all been long since stripped for parts by now. Great value, great design. Lathril is maybe a little degenerate when it gets going, but hey elves gonna ball.
@@EliyaSelhub I was really blown away how fun these decks generally were. Aesi was a weird one where it was perfect for causal players, but the commander is a generically bad design for established players. I could see him being oppressive built properly but as a precon it was a great intro design. Easy to feel like you're doing something and it def built to a win. Jinra Kudro? HA!
The few precons I've bought have also been stripped for parts and I find them to be supremely uninteresting now. The fact that they tend to constantly modify the core concepts of the format makes me really, really dislike them. I realized that I play very few designed for commander cards in my custom decks.
I think they should build more starter decks with reprints and less precons that change the format irreversibly forever with cards that never get banned.
@@YouandWhoseArmy power creep is inevitable in eternal formats. Tarmagoyf was a powerhouse in modern, Deadeye Navigator was the big boogeyman in EDH, now they're barely playable. They have to sell products. Sometimes they go too far but generally I've been fine with their new designs, but your mileage may vary. The good news is you can still build a powerful deck within whatever limitations you set for yourself.
It's a shame these are so expensive. Really solid foundations, and good, centralized play strategies as well.
As long as fans keep buying, they'll keep increasing the price
My LGS thankfully has these decks at 40 bucks.
Like the professor tells us: Just wait.
They’re not expensive, they’re priced at like $45
@@SuperRaids13
for the cards value ratio,
it should not cost more than $25 MSRP.
but surely WoTC need more resilient blindbootlicker slave like you to survive :)
I remember you were really upset with the value of the Gruul kamigawa commander deck so i didnt pick it up, then about 2 months later it was on sale for 20 canadian dollars which is like half price, and with the sale it was actually an amazing value and a great pickup! I will do the same for these.
Honestly that’s probably the right call. These seem like the kind of precons that will end up selling for 20 bucks.
I did the same thing! After upgrading it an leaning more into enchantments I really like that deck a lot!
@@blemski I love this deck too. I went with a package of equipment and auras that can be both sides of the package as modifiers or able to be modified like Living Weapons, Reconfigure, Licids, and I am going to add in some For Mirrodin! equipment as well!
Where do you usually buy cards? I can't seem to find much in the way of magic cards where I live (Saskatoon), first place to check would obviously be game stores but they've only got a weirdly random selection and it's all overpriced. I would begrudgingly then go buy cards on Amazon but the shipping cost is ridiculous. I feel like Canada is grossly under-served when it comes to magic, buying stuff from wizards directly costs easy too much and I can't seem to find the cards in stores, when I do I have the same problem of inflated prices. I've bought almost no new magic cards over the past couple years because it's been so bad. Maybe BC or Ontario has larger users bases so they've got stores that can serve players better.
Chishiro is a God damn truck in mazzy truesword paladin decks for you enchantments guys out there
The way I understand how commander decks are designed is that a designer gets one as a pet passion project. So that's why they are suppose to be fun but they got to choose the cards they thought synergized well and probably given an option to develop a card to help which is where the unique cards come from.
It's why I liked the dihada precon. The legendary swamp land from old kamigawa that gives target creature fear was a sweet addition. Turned me on to an old card I didn't know about. I'd rather secret lair not be a thing and actually give commander decks awesome reprints
Deadly Rollick should have been reprinted in the corrupting influence deck.
Yep!
@@TolarianCommunityCollege Thanks for responding Professor, hope you are well!
Why not reprint deflecting Swat as well? Tbh in every commander legends set I think those cards should be reprinted.
Yeah
It really is a glaring miss
They could have given us a Skithiryx in the Corrupting Influence deck. Arguably the best banger of an Infect card at way too high of a price right now.
Or the famous commander sweeper, Triumph of the Hordes.
@@jackhemsworth7515 Triumph would have been SUCH a good reprint and of course flavor win. Cmon Wizards...
I mentioned that too, alongside maybe a Puresteel Paladin to support the other since the "For Mirrodin" equipment cards tend to have really high equip costs if the token they're attached to dies.
@@anthonydelfino6171 I think the boros deck doesn't need any equipment support runs the deck too thin
@@spudster8887 I was trying to keep it in the realm of reality, but fine. Do an anointed procession reprint
This video has been pretty eye opening to me, and thanks for allowing me to see the actual prices before I wasted any money!
Prices are sky-high in my country, so I bought the singles I wanted for Corrupting Influence. Spent like $30 against the $65ish price tag in LGS for the sealed deck.
Edit: Corrupting Influence, not Confluence lmao
Australian?
@@Austin555661 nope, I'm from Chile. Looks like I ain't the only one dealing with this "problem" lol
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I feel like the poison deck suffers from the same problem that decks like the Shorikai and mutate decks suffered from. To stick to the theme they want they had to focus on cards that only fit in that narrow deck type, in this case an infect/toxic theme. If you look at infect decks and balance it would be tricky to balance the deck while trying to fit in high value reprints used in infect decks (skittles, blightsteel, and triumph of the hordes being notable ones). Most other infect cards that would be looked at are worth pennies.
Yeah, it’s surprising this wasn’t mentioned at all. It should be pretty obvious this was why just by looking at the the theme.
Yeah, it's a great decklist just not a terribly expensive one. I bet the designers decided to bite the bullet on a lower overall value instead of trying to shoehorn in some random reprint to try and boost the price.
Isn’t Shorikai buildable outside of its Vehicle theme?
@Nephalem2002 oh yeah he totally is buildable outside of a vehicle theme (and very popular as well). However, we aren't just talking about one commander in the deck but the precon itself, which was going for a vehicle theme.
I feel we should have gotten some additional cards with the Toxic mechanic to really drive it home. The Skrelv cards would have been nice additions. Also they really could've given us more of the cards with Infect updated with the Phyrexian typing. Still a great deck!
believe it or not, the vast majority of creatures with infect did get updated to the Phyrexian typing! I had to look it up on the gatherer to confirm it but as far as I found almost every single creature with infect is now also Phyrexian creature type. Definitely helped with upgrades for the Ixhel deck as it meant I could add cards like Folk Hero and Herald's Horn to it.
there's still another set coming for this block. so we'll see more of them i'm sure though there a lot of current ones that are really strong (blighted contaminator of course being the main fast play one, i expect the value on that particular one to go up, and then the 2 rex's though one is slightly better than the other). there's only a handful of really good ones now perhaps, though some of the commons are still solid in their own right (dune mover is an amazing common for 2 that has toxic and tutors a basic to top of library)
@@twolf7448 What's the other rex in ONE? I have Tyrannax not sure about the other one.
@@Darmanimon Sure, but I think they might have meant reprinting those old infect cards with updated typelines that reflect their new Phyrexian typing.
I was SHOCKED when I found myself preferring the design of the Boros equipment/tokens deck, a style I usually dislike, over the Abzan deck. I find the Abzan deck is pretty parasitic, and already very tight and narrow in it's focus, so upgrading the deck seems very streamlined and doesn't provide a whole lot of options to change the gameplan of the deck with the commanders provided.
Otharri is definitely my favorite commander from the whole set, really cool and aggressive take on experience counters with a fantastic recursion ability to bypass the commander tax. Can be used in a token strategy (obviously) but also an aggravated assault strategy, can get massive with equipment and auras that he stronger the more creatures you control, or even as a rebel tribal leader. Really cool card on all levels.
Hard agree, especially when I love phyrexia. I’ll optimize the deck and all that because I mean, look at it but I do think I would likely play Neyali and Otharri for years to come
SAME. I was very intent on discarding the boros to focus on the shiny poison deck, and then I looked at the deck list and thought... damn, that's and actually VERY cool whiny white token, slapping a white dominus in there would make the deck even better.
The most surprising part of that deck was how it didn't AT ALL focus on what I thought would be the deck core, thos "For Mirrodin" equipment. There's barely any in that deck, but it's okay since these cards are rather common and cheap anyway.
I too prefer otharri. I. The worst case scenario, dropping it alone still means you can attack, fly over stuff, get life and make a token. The other commander relies too much on other things, and for only one less mana i doubt its worth it
I bought and played the Corrupting Influence deck last night and I really liked it. It felt competitive right out of the box and was really fun to play. There are some small upgrades I will make but overall, it’s a pretty well thought out and synchronous deck. I really like the new corrupted mechanic also. It’s a really great addition for infect/poison decks.
Just bought both of these decks yesterday as my first paper mtg purchase since Throne of Eldrain and I have to say they are really fun decks to play with fun cards I remember from when I was a kid. Honestly regardless of value you can't put a price on the joy these decks have already brought me
Picked up the Boros deck last night, cant wait to get some games in this weekend
I will say, I think part of the reason these are a much lower value than the previous commander decks, is that the price of magic cards has tanked recently. At least I've noticed all my moxfield decks have devalued quite a bit.
The cards are mehh in general, at least for the corrupting deck.
Well the more things are reprinted the lower the prices will go.
Something I don't really see anyone mention when talking about the financial value of the newer commander deck cards is the fact that the cards aren't exclusive to the decks anymore since they come in set boosters and collectors booster now. The added supply drives down the price.
The good thing about Ixhel is that even though it's 3 color the land base is not bad at all. Fairly easy to upgrade. And it plays well out the box. I'd agree to wait on the price drop to $25 or so, but at that price snatch them up.
Once again, these videos are incredibly helpful. I was super excited to get a new Abzan precon but I waited until this video to see if they were worth the $50 my LGS is asking, and I'm really glad to see I was right to not pick one up immediately for that price.
Your LGS is asking 50???
@@TolarianCommunityCollege For both decks yeah, I don't think they've been selling many though so I wouldn't be surprised if that changes soon.
@@TolarianCommunityCollege prof, mine is asking 60
@@TolarianCommunityCollege mines still $55 per deck.
@@TolarianCommunityCollege 55 to 60€ in paris 😢
Amazon still at 42...
The support for Mardu Experience counters makes me happy. That’s a deck I’m working on, and I’m glad Proliferate isn’t as necessary anymore, with so many strong options to gain them.
I think Rebellion Rising will keep its value the best partly because phyrexians are the new hotness but also poison isn’t an evergreen mechanic like tokens are. Neyali and Otharri are likely to only get better with age as sets introduce new ways to make tokens. Poison is unlikely to be a thing any set focuses on. Maybe there’ll be the occasional commander that does it like that dude from Kaldheim but that’s far from a focus
More proliferate synergies will always be in play
Prof, thank you for this review! You seemed really excited for the gameplay of these decks and - in my opinion - that's what makes Commander precons interesting. Most new players I've seen care more about solid playability than resale value, so I always look for the former when preparing/searching for decks for them to enjoy this great game 😊
What's interesting is that these decks had a lot higher value prior to announcement. The very fact that things were getting reprinted has brought down a lot of prices. Command Zone had the reprints in corrupting influence at $95 before announcement. Grafted exoskeleton is in there and was nearly $10, but it's plummeted since.
Comparing this to when Command Zone looked at the prices, it’s bonkers that the Corrupting Influence cards has dropped so much.
with it's release and the reprints from it, it lowered the value of the cards in it.
@@stratavosstuff7575 in that case, when is the best time to judge the value of the re-print in the deck? Or before the deck is revealed, and the price is drop, or at the release of the deck? And even then, isn’t the deck making the prices of the relevant cards drop a good thing?
@@RBGolbat believe me, this does get complicated when looking from An investment angle. See, before the decklist reveal, grafted exoskeleton was going for almost $10 each, now that it's reprinted in a deck that has all the basic infect pieces, it's not as high of a demand for it, especially when the deck is still in print (not to mention most of the ones who really want it, did get a copy of the deck during this prerelease time)
I got both of the decks from TCGplayer for 70USD. That’s $35 per deck, I feel like that is way worth it
Yeah, $35 is a good price.
Great! Precons should 100% not be about value and should 100% be about gameplay and accessibility. These clearly are two of the better precons in recent memory. They'll drop to 35 soon and I will 100% be picking up Corrupting
These decks are getting so synergistic that with minor tweaks you have a strong commander deck.
Major tweak to all the mana bases and they’re all good lol
@TheUltimateRey actually checking the mana base for the abzan deck, you have a pretty decent mana base, a decent amount of ramp and lands.
I am definitely going to wait. I am about to buy the Painbow deck from DU to essentially turn it into a Jodah, The Unifier deck cuz it’s now selling for $36 and that way I can get all the basics for the mana base and a few legendary creatures to help. I am already planning to pack the deck full of some of my favorite legendary creatures that my play group hates to see!
I recommend getting better lands as soon as you can, it's really slow
I did the Painbow to Jodah switch along with doing Jegantha Companion. It's a lot different now, though. The mana base is absolutely painful (aka. Painbow) so definitely throw in some lands that come in untapped and get rid of the tapped fetchables. Other than that, it's one of my strongest decks. The cascade plus anthem is just so good, I'm swinging for 10/10 without even trying most of the time.
Blech... Jodah... 😑
Another prof video to start my friday? Yes please! This one really got me thinking about how the prices/grades of these decks change with the following set release. I end up waiting to buy the singles since they often are much more affordable in my budget. Would be a fun idea to see a video that discusses specific commander decks prices and grades in present day compared to the release day too. Keep up the great work and critical evaluations!
I want the corruption deck for sure. My buddy surprised us last night playing that in our pod and did well.
The average price for a new commander deck in Australia is generally $70AUD each, with some stores selling them in bundles with a discount ($100 for a pair, higher price for a 4-5 deck set depending), so it's seldom worth it but generally stores here don't discount stuff unless it's had terrible sales.
The host is very good at speaking. I appreciate the way he delivers the info
I would´ve maybe added a reprint of contagion engine for the poison deck, since it has contagion clasp and it would maybe serve as an incentive for players to build something like a hapatra deck using some of these cards.
I'll admit that I'm still really new to MTG, but having started with a borrowed deck, moving to Mishra's Burnished Banner, and having bought Corrupting Influence, I'm really looking forward to the idea of building a better deck with them as bases. I've had fun, and that's all I really care about.
I fortunately found them cheaper than this in my home country, and I must say, I think they are probably some of the most fun precons out there. Played two matches these last two days and the first was won by Corruption Influence and the other was won by Rebellion Rising. One last match will determine which one is best, I guess, but my conclusion is that they are incredibly fun and probably some of the best precons I have tried. I feel the exact same way you do, Prof: It feels bad to say that they aren't worth their price in value, seeing as they are incredibly fun to play.
I love how honest you are. Thanks prof! Excited for the poison one when it drops in price
God I really hope next set has 5 monocolor commander decks each helmed by a praetor, it’s been so long since monocolor got precon love.
(Maybe then the mana bases will be decent out of the box)
I was waiting for that video to decide. Thank you so much! Love from Brazil 🇧🇷
I got my Ixhel deck for $55 CAD (before trade-ins), about $41 USD. Perfectly reasonable for me. I don't care too much about the financial value of a deck, thankfully. I wanted a unique and interesting deck, particularly with a Phyrexian theme, and I got that with Corrupting Influence!
I also got the borderless Vraska, Betrayal's Sting in my collector sample pack, which is at $30 USD on tcgplayer right now so I lucked into some huge value and a card that is perfect for the deck itself! (I also got a showcase foil Necrogen Rotpriest which isn't worth much, but still synergizes with the deck.)
Overall, I'm extremely happy with my purchase.
I always wait to watch your videos before my purchases if possible. Thanks.
Played against Corrupted Influence and it is quite good out of the box.
I agree with the Professor. And i wish i could follow his advice not to buy now, but in my country they are rare and prices will never go down. Even stryxhaven at our local club is still full price. That being said, for me its the fun of these precons which matters. I am not a sweaty andy anymore, but care for fun only. Hence i play only with a limited group of people avoiding the rest. They are good for this. But yeah, last time i buy precons, plus the necrons if i can find them. The money will go for more...solid decks, even if limit is 100 euro/deck. But yeah, i look at fun. Can't put a price on that
Once again, thank you professor for the review. Both decks look very interesting to play. As for why "Phyrexian influence" has low value , I can take some guesses : the first and foremost is that most good infect and toxic cards are costing over 5£ and 15£ and some others are too good for what they do and they are a bit expensive themselves ( I am looking at you Skiithrix). My other guess is that infect-toxic-poison counters is not something that lot of people want to fight against, and this is why Wizards made the deck "weaker" and undervalued on purpose. Plus, the deck also is missing the blue mana colour and some great proliferate cards (both old and new) are in the blue colour.
I thinks it's sad that Ixhel and Vishgraz probably lost their blue because Wotc doesn't wanna make more 4 color commanders. But them and lots of cards from their deck slot in perfectly in my Atraxa deck so I'll probably get it anyways to support my LGS over ordering the singles from Card Kingdom.
Well, it's probably paying the Phyrexian tax. It's popular so they don't have to make it as enticing otherwise.
Idk i bought the corrupting precon at my lgs for $40 and its the first precon i bought since 2014. Its alot of fun to play so the value in a fun precon is there for me, at $40 or lower. Sometimes its less about the card value and more about the fun value
Yeah. I know the value is important to some players but it's not like I'm buying decks to sell piece by piece on the secondary market. I'm buying them to play them and add the cards to my collection. Ignoring lands, more than half the cards in the Ixhel deck are on my buy list for my Atraxa deck so I'm probably just gonna bite the bullet and call it a donation to my LGS. I feel better giving money to a smaller LGS over buying singles from Card Kingdom or something anyways but that's just me.
The issue in value is more that for 45$ the power of these precons are lacking compared to others in the price range. Once these decks hit around 30$ then they would be a good buy.
happy to hear that we agree on this one. For the first time in 2 years, I did not buy the precons.
I really like the look of the rebellion rising deck, not only does it fit how i like to play but it also includes several cards i was looking to include in my myrel soldiers deck that i'm working on. but this video has definitely convinced me to wait for a sale. anointed procession would have been an awesome (though expensive) inclusion in the deck.
Did you open the collector sample packs that were included? Pretty good chance for recoup in price with the Oil foils.
Yeah he didn't mention it at all which skews his whole argument
Being brand new to the game, (played other tcgs) I went to my LGS and they were having a commander night. I told the guy "Hey I'm brand new, I'll trust you to make a good choice" He asked, "Do you want like to control or be more aggressive?" I replied "Aggressive"
He chose Rebellion Rising.
Playing my first few games, I had so much fun cooking up a token swarm and beat down. And I'm already thinking of cards to tweak and improve.
Bought it at $50 but you know, support local business. I had an absolute blast highly recommend it.
Thanks for the good video brother cheers from Brazil ☺
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Speaking pure flavor designing new art for each card that would match the set would go along way. Or at the very least add in either the panorama or Phyrexian lands instead of the draft lands. Anyway I'm putting the poison counter one on my Christmas watchlist. There is a good chance it'll be less than $20.00 lol.
Funnily enough, since the "draft lands" are now out of both draft and set boosters (which have the panorama and metal lands now), they are actually the rarer version of the basic lands on that set (ignoring the oil slick ofc).
IIRC you can only get these lands from the commanders and the One bundle now.
@@Pers0n97 Wow I didn't know they took them out of the draft boxes. I figured they were mainly meant for pre-release considering the three different versions of basic lands. That is funny to think about though.
@@High5748 Yeah, it's a very strange move to be honest, especially when it could have turned these Panorama & Metal lands into new "cool and somewhat expensive" baselands for people to pimp their decks with into... the basic lands of that set.
I know next to nothing about magic, but I’ve been watching this channel all day.
glad you enjoy it!
Great analysis! Definitely agree. Best call is wait and see the prices drop.
hoo boy I look forward to buying these for like $15-20 in about 2-3 months
The Warhammer commander decks are on their 3rd printing now I believe. People wanted them and they kept printing them 👍
Yea they announced they are reprinting them.
Walked into my LGS and boom, Warhammer Commander decks. Was amazed to see them restocked.
thanks alot prof i wouldnt know what to do without your valuable insight.
thank you for this i have been waiting for review before i buy; gonna wait until they're on sale :3
The quality of these vids has been really improving since Bobbie-Christine started writing them!
Watching this on Nov 27 and rebellion rising is $16. Most importantly though, it looks fun to me so I’m buying it!
I got Corrupting influence for 35,-€ and am currently coming from a meet up.
I played it 5 times, won twice and got close to wining twice (on the fith game they knocked me out first).
It was very tense since everyone had to balance my poison and the thread of the other better decks.
Even with, sometimes, little mana the Deck played suprisingly well.
My personal MVP is Norn's Decree, if you can drop it early on, most players will avoid attacking you to not get hit by other players for the card draw.
And as long as a player doesn't have a Poison counter, they can safely ignore it, so it can stay on the field for several turns.
Normally when theres chase cards in a precon, i always pick it up, because i love having a collection of cards that all go together, and i love opening the decks! and normally with clever concealment and flawless maneuver, i would have picked up rebellion rising for the same reason...
but other than those 2 chase cards, theres nothing else in the deck with any value at all, its actually cheaper just to buy the non bulk cards than it is to get the decks themselves
I mean, I just got back into it. Rebellion Rising and Draconic Destruction have been great platforms, the latter I have since customized. These got me back in the game and have me back into the playing again. I think thats whats great about these. I can see how it gets frustrating tho when you see these decks and the cash grab for people who dont know better. AMAZING Video as always.
Rebellion rising is my favourite precon I’ve ever bought lol I upgraded it as well and it slaps now
The release price of these recent precons has really made it difficult to justify picking them up lately. Which is a shame since the Ixhel deck looks fun, and even the Brothers War precons as well (which I still haven’t picked up either yet)
I really appreciate all the detail you go in about the decks. I agree it's a but much for value. I did however order the Poison one for around 40. Maybe Wizards will one day see the light of Prof wisdom.
New to magic and played the Ixhel deck against very experienced players at my LGS. Haven’t upgraded it at all yet and felt like it could compete. A lot of fun
Well.. i was going to get both, ill wait a few months and see of the price goes down... thanks for the all you do for us.
Picked corrupting influence up at my LGS for $40 I’m pretty happy with it
Been a couple of years since I last got a commander deck due to having less playtime lately, and it used to cost US$35 a deck (converted). Got a shock seeing the main retailer for these in my country selling them for US$60 today (converted).
In the past I would get one or two for myself, and then buy one as a gift for my MtG friends' birthday or as a Christmas gift. Definitely not getting even one of them for myself at $60.
Great evaluation! I had the same feeling. Well done!
I’ve been getting back into magic the last 2 months and decided to pick one of these up today (before watching this video). I can happily say I only spent $40 at my local magic store.
If you had to pick one of these decks which deck would you pick?? 🙏
Thanks for any feedback
As of this date, Rebellion Rising is going for CAD$40 (on sale from $45), and Corrupting Influence is a solid CAD$85 - from a competitive games retailer.
Dang it, I really liked the look of Corrupting Influence, I might check some other shops
Picking up singles for Commander precons with the unique cards has been my go to for a while.
I bought the Corrupting Influence Deck and let a local pro player play the deck before I did. I was playing Urza, lord protector the store owner played Atraxa and the other 2 players played Kami and Jodah the unifier they were all higher level decks and it kept up pretty well. For game playability $45.00 is worth it
If anyone is reading this in December 2023, saw these going for 60 usd for both (as in both decks included for 60 beans) on ebay and as low as 25-30 separately.
Kind of a fan of the Collector Sample pack but full disclosure I pulled the new Nissa Plainswalker from it
Ya i got a local shop that you can get both combo'd for 70. After maths, 35 each.
Personally i plan to snag singles from each. Even if they tank later at 3ish per card i want it is not a big deal.
I already bought the infect precon yesterday at Mox Boarding House. Its awesome.
I can't believe _Corrupting Influence_ did not include a single copy of Pauper Poison BANGER *Virulent Wound* ; I thought the deck was *_trying_* to poison people out of the game!
The red-white one is already selling for 29.99 EUR (approx. 32 USD) in Germany, which is a far more reasonable price I think. Love rebels since Prophecy anyway. Thanks for the great video, Professor! 👍
Wow i cant remember the last time a commander deck got less than A from you!
Nearly 1M Professor So Happy For You!
I just bought the Ixhel deck for $40 at my LGS, no regrets. It's my 3rd deck but my 1st precon and it was a blast to play! Even if I was the archenemy of the table .
The pack within the deck had Atraxa so the net cost of the deck comes at about $20 for me.
My local card shop had them at 33 and 38 respectively. And if your saying the only issue is the $45 price tag, I think it was definitely worth it at the amount I paid. Thanks professor
A friend of mine got the infect deck and changed only 4 cards. I can confirm that this precon is strong, very strong. Key to win against it is to prevent getting any poison counters for as long as possible (surprise)
I pulled that new lotr sword, dawn of a new age, and my buddy gave me horn of Gondor, so I figured I'd try to make a token deck. Turns out buying rebellion rising for $30 on sale was cheaper than picking out individual cards/a better bet than drafting a token deck that might not work xD
Nothing to do with magic but, I really like the colors of your suit today professor they go really well together. :)
I've been looking at this pre-made decks because I'm trying to find a way to get fun with mtg outside of arena... Not sure I can find a way to be happy with pre-made tho. Thanks for these videos of course, they're very helpful. If I go pre-made I just gotta find a commander I like enough to start small and maybe build with over time.
Thanks professor
Now that you mention it that's true : the mirrodin resistance deck is marked down at my lgs, while the phyrexian one is marked up to 60€ ! I guess it's a popularity thing
At my LGS the boros one is already at 20 bucks including VAT xD
I might need to buy it after this mostly positive review
I got both decks as a bundle for $60 total at my game store, 30 per deck is much more fair and actually makes it worth it
I don't even like Commander but I appreciate your evaluations.
What's really nice is on prerelease at my store it's posible to trade all your pulls (even relatively low value ones) for whatever the new precon is
"38 lands might seem high" is 100% a commander player quote
meanwhile i play 40 lands and wonder if i need more every time i mulligan
I was surprised Tainted Strike wasn’t in Corrupting Influence
Among other things, I think Corrupted Influence faces a problem in that it’s designing for a niche play style. Looking through ONE and co’s new cards, a lot cared about poison counters. And good for the environment and infect players looking for love after a decade, but it’s not widely wanted by other decks. And these new cards should finally help infect players. It’s probably going to be a long time before they get such obvious support. I think the value could have been helped with some good reprints. Deadly rollick, as another commenter said, would have been a good include.
I got the corrupting influence one because it had a lot of poison stuff, altogether during prerelease weekend, and I was planning on upgrading it into a poison bugs thing with vishgraz, the alternate commander.
While the pricing is "cheap" the availability of the cards inside wasn't really... because of a lot of them being over 10 years old, like the infect creatures.
The upfront cost is bad though.