I'll rephrase that 'switch the sexes,', gender is woke insanity. If it was a bloke having sex with his female students, there would likely be a clear or subtle sence of violence if the female students didn't cooperate. Here its the woman teacher who potentially faced physical violence from the lads. I suggest you study biology, not the woke equality stuff you get from GB News.
Society forget about height , body difference in couples, it is ok for society for 1.90 cm guy to date 1.50 cm , but is not ok for a 19 yo to date a 17 years old. These short , tiny girls can't defend in front a massive man.
@@PriceBySize Biologically women 'tend' to be attracted to bigger guys, as they believe the bigger males will be able to protect them and produce stronger offspring.
Little boys?, I suspect these little boys could get you in a head lock, no trouble, they were 15/16, pretty much fully grown lads. GB News has clearly discovered 90% of it's audience are Incels, and is pandering to them.
Women can't rap3 by uk law. Look at the law. Rap3 can only be committed by males, this isn't a Muslim nation so its always men to blame. In Islam, rap3 is the women's fault
The fact these presenters wanted to portray this woman as a sick victim rather than a sexual predator shows the level of inequality in how society views sexual crimes committed by women compared to men but I bet you won't hear any feminist complaining about that as they only want equality when it suits them
paedophile : a person who is sexually attracted to children. Doesn’t say anything about there being a gender inequality there. “And sex is violence” she is and you can effortlessly call her a rapist and be absolutely 100% correct. And so can the court and I’m sure they will. Why ain’t they lobbing the courts over Philip Schofield absconding justice, with the sex and violence he and his brother are absolutely of. No ones calling him a paedophile, and his absolutely is. The man should serving with his brother
Because Philip Schofield crimes was against males… He’d be crucified if it was against a female. Western society do not value men the same way they do women
Rape is legally only counted as penitration. The fact is the feminist movement has helped to actively covered up for female sex offenders and pedos for decades as they have for female domestic abuser. You bring up any female abuse you will get hit with but what about men.
@@911HRW We protect (British English law, Queens law/Kings law) children’s rights by simple applying a law where by, because a child would lack life experience/knowledges etc. would not be of sound mind to consent. So therefore I child could not consent full stop, and his parents definitely didn’t sign a waver, because they would be looking at charges too. So it’s the “statutory rape” grooming violence etc. because no a child would feel so vulnerable it would lie to save itself. Especially if its life was threatened or felt threatened. Law is law, she and he broke the law. Simple.
Da f**k we talking about this like that equality if this was a man there would be no "is prison really the right place for him" there needs to be the same punishment for male or female the crime is the same....
@@Richard-e2wnot as bad as the coward gangs in every town and city, all run by the peaceful types. Don't worry it'll be stopped soon now the people are waking up.
One rule for Politicians and one for everyone else. One rule for women, one for men. One rule for immigrants, one for the British People. One rule for Corporates and one for the public. They call this democracy!!!! BS is what it really is.
@@JonnyWard-kg4vushe’s been found guilty of having sex with children, and right now is at home. She was given BAIL! Can you imagine a man being allowed to go home in the same circumstances?
@@johnbarlow4572 a man gets 15 year old pregnant do you think he should be on house arrest to get the help he needs obviously not the double standard people have with this is ridiculous she is a pedo stop defending her
The law doesn’t need changing as that is just the weak and cheap response by politicians. They just need to enforce the law but that’s the expensive bit that they are unwilling to do.
If i was one of her victims I'd be far from traumatised. It's the double standards I can't stand! If a man meets a 16 year old in apub and she says she's 21 and he has sex with her, he'd have the book thrown at him.
@@PedroSantos-tz1hg you are considered a child until 18 id and adult has sex with a child it is illegal especially if the adult is in a position of power. It is legal for two 16 year olds two have consenting sex. It's ridiculous really.
Thank you for speaking out with FAIRNESS, double standards are unjust And also thanks for mentioning the baby, because as we know aside from the boy not having any say with becoming a young father, the baby will forever have to live with this (scandalous) reality Shame on the women who condone her actions
Prison are full and they are going to release people that have done worse things than her early . Should have given six years house arrest so she can get a job working from home and look after the child . Save the taxpayer a bit of money
If she is facing a lengthy jail term, WHY has the judge allowed her bail until July 4th so she could see her baby????? I will be shocked if she gets jail on July 4th.
She broke bail by seeing the second boy while under investigation for the first, was remanded to custody then granted bail again last year while pregnant. Gender equality ☕
Because bail is one of her rights unless there is a specific reason to deny it. There clearly isn’t a legal reason to deny it, or it would have been denied!
@@AethelwulfOfNordHymbraLand2333 I dont normally reply to nonsense comments like yours, but I'll make an exception this once! I am a hospital doctor - most of my working life has been on a maternity unit. several times each year, I deal with teenagers who are pregnant - 6 months ago I dealt with a 11yr old who delivered a healthy baby girl at full term - the girl was pregnant at 10 yrs old!! The "father" is 15yr old! There is NO police involvement, NO prosecutions, and the boys parents are delighted to look after the newborn. This is a very 'sad' situation - but putting a 15yr old in jail is even more destructive to all concerned. The current situation of the maths teacher is not very different - prison destroys her life and the baby's future and does nothing to help with the overall situation. The teacher undoubtably needs help - and I don't believe for a second that the 'lads' are traumatised! Most of the comments here are from people who never have to deal with cases like this - but I have done so for over 30 years - there is nothing unique about this case, it happens everywhere and quite frequently! I'm not arguing that its ok - I'm simply telling the reality. The situation is sad at the least - prison simply makes it worst - compassion MUST be the guiding approach here!!!
@@Steven-hq3go i know.. It's almost as outrageous as the "violence against women and girls act".. What with men making up (officially) a third of victims of DV.
@@raregrimebeats1352 The UK does not have an offence called statutory rape. Statutory rape is a term used to bundle the child sexual offences together. She was found guilty of four counts of sexual activity with a child and 2 counts of sexual activity with a child by a person in a position of trust. So she has already fallen in to the definition of statutory rape and has been charged as such.
Women consistently go on about being treated equally to men and they should, when doing the same job/tasks/roles etc, get EXACTLY the same treatment and rewards. However when it comes to things like this, "SOME" (not all by any means), think they should be treated differently to how a man would be treated for the exact same offence and in reality, MOST of the time they are!
Because it’s been proven that women don’t have the same reaction to the justice system and by prison as men. That’s why the government has the Female Offender Strategy. Men and women ARE different and the way society fails to acknowledge that is insane.
Did anyone know if she herself was expecting to be treated differently it’s only the media that creates false unsubstantiated information to the public in some cases, trial by jury not the media .
@Steven-hq3go Then they were under the age of consent. Also as their teacher she abused her power. I am not defending her actions in anyway, just pointing out some facts of the case.
Men are different than women. End of. Don't ever try and compare us. We can have sex and leave it at that. We don't catch feelings and all that stupid crap that women do.
15 and 16-year-olds are often not innocent children. Many have been very sexually active since the age of 14, some even younger. Sadly, this is a modern day fact. Of course, there is absolutely no excuse for a person in a position of responsibly such as a teacher to abuse their position.
She's going to prison, don't worry about that. The judge has made it clear that she's only being bailed so she can see her baby one last time before sentenced. My guess is that she'll get around 6-8 years for this.
To the people saying think of her child, would you say that if she was a man? No, instead the man would never have access to that child. Complete double standards. This was a child predator who used her position of power to abuse to children. They should make an example of her and give her the same time as a 30 year old male teacher would get for doing this to two 15 and 16 year old girls in his care.
So, she had her 2nd underage lad whilst suspended from work for having the 1st one. And she coincidentally got pregnant while under investigation. Terrible, manipulative person. I'm glad the prosecution called her out on having the child's bonnet visibly tucked into her waistband, to try and elicit sympathy from the jury.
They’ve just took down a comment that had a few comments all talking about Islam and child groomers, seems gb news doesn’t like the fact that the main contributors to it are Muslims
@@Mrk-9 he’s not he’s talking about the bigger unreported crimes which pretty much sums this whole thing up, how she making so much media when Muslim men in my country rack up the massive % of child rapists in Britain
there is nothing to discuss. If the argument is that women shouldnt be jailed because the underage boy "enjoyed it" then a good looking man could make the same case if the underage girl "enjoys" it.
She's a 30 old teacher in a position of trust. He's a 15 year old student. Legally , he can't consent. He didn't commit a crime to be held accountable for. She did.
@@Smithpolly Students get involved in these things because they know that there are no consequences for them . If there was rule that they would be expelled for getting involved in affairs with a teacher it may make them think about keeping it in there pants or legs shut in the case of females . Parents would also take more interest in there kids sex lives if they knew that was going to happen .
@@Smithpolly They all knew what they were doing so would call it an affair . Bunch of dumbass's and the only one i feel sorry for is the kid growing up having them for parents. He/ she might be lucky and be put up for adoption and avoid them in the future
Yeah, but she’s now the First Lady 🤫 We don’t live in a just world, people (women) arguing about gender equality are only cherry-picking the parts that they want, and dominating the narrative In a truly fair and balanced society half this $h!t wouldn’t be debatable
@@Wulfyr someone could say something instead of acting like it's all fine. She was asked to leave him alone by the parents and refused. He was 15 and she was married with kids. Just as much a predator in position of trust.
@@redbird9658 I don't actually have any idea what you're talking about. I have no information about this situation you're referring to. We're not even connected through the EU anymore. If she's done some weird shit then she should be prosecuted. Why isn't your country doing anything about it? You're in exactly the same position as regards France as we are.
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So what that presenter Ann says "is prison the right place for her to be rehabilitated" Would she want a male rapist to escape a prison sentence to assist with his rehabilitation? Women often have a very strange sense of true justice!
My martial arts teacher raped and sexually assaulted me for 6months. I came forward years later and his dbs would flag if enhanced check was done to help protect other victims. Dbs now say it’s inappropriate to have this showing on his dbs but my case remains on police database as intelligence. Another victim came forward online this Monday it deleted everything due to trolling before they could be traced for police to speak to them. I’m glad to see these victims have justice because for those of us who tell what happened to us and nothing happens - it’s hell.
Did you made an allegation and it wasn't taken forward due to lack of evidence? If he's presumed innocent without conviction it can't exactly be held against them indefinitely. I'm not saying you're a liar but you should see it from the police perspective.
The 2 boys had a great time up until she fell pregnant, then boy 2 panicked and cried wolf! She probably wasn’t found out until boy 1 started boasting to people in class how he was banging the teacher. Imagine how cool he would have felt.
She should be in jail. If there’s no jail it will just encourage more of the same. The law is the law and for anyone saying ‘it’s different’ WHAT AGE would you call it wrong at? Ten?
I am sorry if you find this story distasteful but while you read this look up Paul Thorpe's video yesterday and I am guaranteed you will be speechless. This ideology that we are being forced to embrace does something far worse than this school teacher. Double standards at play, yet we must tolerate one of them.
This should not be a debate about if she should go to prison, she was in a position of trust and has put the burden of fatherhood on a child for her own selfish needs not to mention the statory rape. What this needs to be a debate about is if age of consent at 16 has tobe so obviously now a joke. Because by this logic if she had waited 1 year todo what she did as a 30 something year old women in the eyes of the state she has done no wrong and people don't even call for the heads of those who do this, romeo and juliett laws allows this to happen when there is a few years between participants. But my god 30 years old and anything under 18 is clearly wrong.
One thing missing here. Age of consent. Isn't one of the teenagers 16 yrs old? Didn't they collude with the teacher? Regardless of what society have to comment about the moral issues at hand. The teenagers were very much voluntary participants. Decipher the evidence properly please. The parents are being very overwhelming at pains to blame. Rather than admit the students would give their lives to bed MISS. She didn't abduct or kidnap them. This sexual behaviour happens all over the UK. Every week day and mostly at weekends.
@@justonecornetto80 As long as its all kept outside the school i don't see the problem . Have rules that anything inside will result i serious consequences like the teacher being sacked and losing teaching licence taken away and student expelled . Could also make it one or the other should have to relocate to another school .
@@johnbarlow4572 Relationships between a teacher and pupil are banned because they're a serious breach of professional ethics and lifting that ban would open the door to all manner of predatory behaviour. How long would it be until 16 year old girls started coming home from school to inform their parents that they had been knocked up by the teacher they had a teenage crush on? Joynes blatantly abused her position by using the two boys as coping tools to deal with her feelings of rejection spawned by the breakdown of a long term relationship. She even became pregnant by one of them when she was on bail ffs! I wouldn't want somebody like that anywhere near my kids, let alone teaching them.
@@justonecornetto80 I t would be on the assumption that at 15 /16 you have a brain and capable of using it and saying no to a teaches advances if you did not want to get involved as we did back in the day . Maybe the youth of today are not that bright as they do not seem to have that ability
@@redfa1nt567 tell me those boys didn’t no what they were doing until the poo hit the fan then they were changing their stories so not entirely innocent they also new what text messages they were sending too , they had a choice of not trying all the phone numbers to discover Rebecca Joynes phone number so defo not entirely innocent
The woman and men need to be prison if they have "romance " to one minor, some minor. Sometimes, there are dating couples of 20 and 16, and if the shovel objects, the adult is even charged Now I can't imagine a teacher or teacher, it doesn't matter. There is no reason to argue whether men or women are treated the same.
Remember the woman who stabbed her partner about the head and face 20 times and dodged a prison sentence because it might affect her career. Unbelievable. Who really are the privileged
Pure double standards, you think if it was a man guilty of what this women done anne would be saying he is sick and is prison the right place for him. You see this older women defending other womens criminal behaviour.
It really wouldn't surprise me if the baby is given to her while she is in prison... or the conviction is somehow quashed and she is then released early from prison. She is a paedophile pure and simple, but there are plenty of people who have sympathy for her and would disagree that she has committed a serious crime at all. Disgusting.
If that were a man i wonder but cause its a woman. She's just going to get a slap on the wrist. Slap on a heavy sentence to show the rest long time in jail but nooooooo weak ass law system never does its job properly
Would it depend on how long she gets .Assume there would be a time limit for how long she could keep it with her depending on how long a sentence she gets . Would hope she gets a short sentence and then let her , the father and both sets of parents decide what is best for the child without the media hounding them . Dickheads like this GBnews lot on there case is the last thing they need
Its not that unusual, my young female RE teacher was after me when I was 15 in 1993, difference being kids were not constantly sexualised back then so I knew it was wrong!
15. .He's probly 6ft3 and built like a barn door 😂 He knew exactly what he was doing. She knew the risks also if caught so not much she can say as a defence
Some are and some are not . i left school the Easter after i turned 15 and by the end of the year was working, smoking . drinking in pubs , in bookies shops gambling om horses , no longer a virgin . Innocent i most certainly was not
People actually think if ur crazy they just let you roam the streets instead of being locked up haha Some of yall need to be in mental health facilities cause you braindead
Now swtich the genders and see what would have happened
I'll rephrase that 'switch the sexes,', gender is woke insanity.
If it was a bloke having sex with his female students, there would likely be a clear or subtle sence of violence if the female students didn't cooperate.
Here its the woman teacher who potentially faced physical violence from the lads.
I suggest you study biology, not the woke equality stuff you get from GB News.
Society forget about height , body difference in couples, it is ok for society for 1.90 cm guy to date 1.50 cm , but is not ok for a 19 yo to date a 17 years old.
These short , tiny girls can't defend in front a massive man.
@@PriceBySize Biologically women 'tend' to be attracted to bigger guys, as they believe the bigger males will be able to protect them and produce stronger offspring.
Damn, never knew men could get pregnant 🤣
She hasn't been sentenced yet so what are you upset about?
Just another glimpse of the two tier society, life on easy mode for women 🤦🏽♂️
Yep better to stay away from them I think
You have no idea.
Society has truly gone mad
@@Dj.slothy let's see how that pan's out😅
@@Dj.slothywe stay away from men. Don’t worry!
why would it 'divide opinion'? beacuse its little boys and not little girls? statory rape is statory rape lady regardless of the gender of the victims
It's just cope from Anne.
What about the other 70 genders?
Little boys?, I suspect these little boys could get you in a head lock, no trouble, they were 15/16, pretty much fully grown lads.
GB News has clearly discovered 90% of it's audience are Incels, and is pandering to them.
Im sure the 2 boys are traumatised
Women can't rap3 by uk law. Look at the law. Rap3 can only be committed by males, this isn't a Muslim nation so its always men to blame. In Islam, rap3 is the women's fault
The fact these presenters wanted to portray this woman as a sick victim rather than a sexual predator shows the level of inequality in how society views sexual crimes committed by women compared to men but I bet you won't hear any feminist complaining about that as they only want equality when it suits them
So frustrating of Anne to try and mitigate what she did.
She wanted children, she could have that with any man of her age.
She wanted children, but in the WRONG way.
A lot of female teachers loved the attention of us lads in school.. sure it was the same at yours
She wanted lust
@@BarryBBurton🤣I know it's crazy
@@John858_but not of u got the possy
Anne protecting her like she is a victim.
disgusting but that's what a lot of them do.
protecting each other no matter if they're good or bad , all get same treatment.
being a woman is like being in a cult, sisterhood kind of mafia.
Are you surprised? 😂 Look what the victim looks like.
So frustrating of Anne to try and mitigate what she did.
@@MileyPitNot surprised in the slightest 😅😂.
paedophile : a person who is sexually attracted to children. Doesn’t say anything about there being a gender inequality there. “And sex is violence” she is and you can effortlessly call her a rapist and be absolutely 100% correct. And so can the court and I’m sure they will. Why ain’t they lobbing the courts over Philip Schofield absconding justice, with the sex and violence he and his brother are absolutely of. No ones calling him a paedophile, and his absolutely is. The man should serving with his brother
Because Philip Schofield crimes was against males…
He’d be crucified if it was against a female.
Western society do not value men the same way they do women
Seems like there was consent so not rape.
@@911HRW is that what we’d call consent if it was an underage girl instead of a boy?
Rape is legally only counted as penitration. The fact is the feminist movement has helped to actively covered up for female sex offenders and pedos for decades as they have for female domestic abuser. You bring up any female abuse you will get hit with but what about men.
@@911HRW We protect (British English law, Queens law/Kings law) children’s rights by simple applying a law where by, because a child would lack life experience/knowledges etc. would not be of sound mind to consent. So therefore I child could not consent full stop, and his parents definitely didn’t sign a waver, because they would be looking at charges too. So it’s the “statutory rape” grooming violence etc. because no a child would feel so vulnerable it would lie to save itself. Especially if its life was threatened or felt threatened. Law is law, she and he broke the law. Simple.
Da f**k we talking about this like that equality if this was a man there would be no "is prison really the right place for him" there needs to be the same punishment for male or female the crime is the same....
She is a predator
Really lol
@@Richard-e2wyeah she's a groomer.
@@Richard-e2wnot as bad as the coward gangs in every town and city, all run by the peaceful types. Don't worry it'll be stopped soon now the people are waking up.
@@Richard-e2w yeah
@@Richard-e2wShe is
One rule for Politicians and one for everyone else. One rule for women, one for men. One rule for immigrants, one for the British People. One rule for Corporates and one for the public.
They call this democracy!!!! BS is what it really is.
Double standards. She should most definitely go to prison. For a long time. She should not be allowed to use the baby as leverage.
Completely WRONG!!
She hasn't been sentenced yet so where is the double standard?
@@JonnyWard-kg4vushe’s been found guilty of having sex with children, and right now is at home. She was given BAIL! Can you imagine a man being allowed to go home in the same circumstances?
Yes she should be imprisoned… no argument.
House arrest would have done . Parents would make sure she obeyed the rules and get her the help she clearly needs .
@@johnbarlow4572 a man gets 15 year old pregnant do you think he should be on house arrest to get the help he needs obviously not the double standard people have with this is ridiculous she is a pedo stop defending her
The guy talking is 100% right. Good on him for calling it out.
It’s a load of rubbish. The World has gone mad!
Sympathy? Wtf!
She had sex with two schoolboys. She should not go to jail. She should've gotten a raise.
One law for them one law for us …. !! It’s about time the laws are changed !!!
Them Vs Us... Eek
@@andyo-southpawguitaruk5322this
The law doesn’t need changing as that is just the weak and cheap response by politicians. They just need to enforce the law but that’s the expensive bit that they are unwilling to do.
Wow, I wish we had teachers like that when I was at school!!
The hypocrisy of this presenter is Outrageous
And she’s fully aware of it!
That poor baby when he or she realises how he or she was made
By 2 people of Legal age ?
Kinda fukd up
@davedavids2231 how old was the boy?
@@mickclarke5741 16
@Epicgeezer would a male teacher that impregnated a 15 year old girl have that same right?
no it doesn't divide opinion off to jail you go
If i was one of her victims I'd be far from traumatised. It's the double standards I can't stand! If a man meets a 16 year old in apub and she says she's 21 and he has sex with her, he'd have the book thrown at him.
Isn't 16 the age of consent?
@@PedroSantos-tz1hg you are considered a child until 18 id and adult has sex with a child it is illegal especially if the adult is in a position of power. It is legal for two 16 year olds two have consenting sex. It's ridiculous really.
Easy to say that when you weren’t the one groomed by someone in a position if power!
AH your mistaking someone tricked into having sex with someone who is younger, with someone who over time knowingly groomed a minor to have sex with.
In the uk the age of consent is 16 with an adult or otherwise. It is only 18 if the adult is in position of power such as a teacher@kjd9634
Bang out of order...she's a predator & the boy's & baby come first! I'm a mum & I think she's loathsome
I think the boys came first 😅
Thank you for speaking out with FAIRNESS, double standards are unjust
And also thanks for mentioning the baby, because as we know aside from the boy not having any say with becoming a young father, the baby will forever have to live with this (scandalous) reality
Shame on the women who condone her actions
The boys are legally victims because of their age, but their willingness to take part also makes them sex offenders.
Where were all these sexed up teachers when i was a teenager?
Man would have got 12 years...she got 6
Prison are full and they are going to release people that have done worse things than her early . Should have given six years house arrest so she can get a job working from home and look after the child . Save the taxpayer a bit of money
If she is facing a lengthy jail term, WHY has the judge allowed her bail until July 4th so she could see her baby?????
I will be shocked if she gets jail on July 4th.
She broke bail by seeing the second boy while under investigation for the first, was remanded to custody then granted bail again last year while pregnant. Gender equality ☕
Because bail is one of her rights unless there is a specific reason to deny it. There clearly isn’t a legal reason to deny it, or it would have been denied!
Why@@Queenofgreen515
I went to prison for all of 2023 and I was on bail for 1 month before. It's too prepare and sort things out before prison
Apply the law equally or don't bother with laws at all
Voting rights. Equal pay. Equality. Court cases oh I'm a woman and j have a child treat me different.
I feel sorry for her. She mustve been desperate to risk it all. Everyones a loser here.
Why would it divide opinion. The teacher is a predator must go to prison.
Completely WRONG!!!
@@brianruane8505
To be hoped you dont have kids with that type of logic
@@brianruane8505how on earth is this wrong? She’s guilty of raping children
@@brianruane8505When people talk about the 'enemy within,' individuals like you spring to mind.
@@AethelwulfOfNordHymbraLand2333 I dont normally reply to nonsense comments like yours, but I'll make an exception this once! I am a hospital doctor - most of my working life has been on a maternity unit. several times each year, I deal with teenagers who are pregnant - 6 months ago I dealt with a 11yr old who delivered a healthy baby girl at full term - the girl was pregnant at 10 yrs old!! The "father" is 15yr old! There is NO police involvement, NO prosecutions, and the boys parents are delighted to look after the newborn. This is a very 'sad' situation - but putting a 15yr old in jail is even more destructive to all concerned. The current situation of the maths teacher is not very different - prison destroys her life and the baby's future and does nothing to help with the overall situation. The teacher undoubtably needs help - and I don't believe for a second that the 'lads' are traumatised!
Most of the comments here are from people who never have to deal with cases like this - but I have done so for over 30 years - there is nothing unique about this case, it happens everywhere and quite frequently! I'm not arguing that its ok - I'm simply telling the reality. The situation is sad at the least - prison simply makes it worst - compassion MUST be the guiding approach here!!!
Years and years ago when I was a teenager these sort of sexual encounters with an age difference were no great shock.
Youth of today just to dumb to get involved in these shenanigans
She was very quiet...🤔🙄😠
She belongs under the prison.
Typical I never had a teacher like that
Was thinking the exact same thing! 😂
Niiicce
I'm sure there are a lot of men who would think what happened doesn't rank very high in the grand scheme of traumatising events life can throw at you.
There's some who would be very envious!
I wish i had a teacher like that when i was 15! 😂 there certainly would have been consent.
Stop calling it sexual activity and call it statutory rape.
That's not what the law calls it, are you an American by chance? This is UK news and law
@@Steven-hq3go i know.. It's almost as outrageous as the "violence against women and girls act".. What with men making up (officially) a third of victims of DV.
@@-_-dontcare-_- huh.. Where'd my reply go?
I'm just sick of the double standards..
@@-_-dontcare-_-statortuory rape is a different definition to rape. She should be able to fall into that definition
@@raregrimebeats1352 The UK does not have an offence called statutory rape. Statutory rape is a term used to bundle the child sexual offences together. She was found guilty of four counts of sexual activity with a child and 2 counts of sexual activity with a child by a person in a position of trust. So she has already fallen in to the definition of statutory rape and has been charged as such.
The child was only six foot tall he was happy for her to buy him designer gear
Why is she not being held on remand?? A bloke in the same position would have not been given bail.
Because they are probably leaning towards a suspended sentence
Women consistently go on about being treated equally to men and they should, when doing the same job/tasks/roles etc, get EXACTLY the same treatment and rewards. However when it comes to things like this, "SOME" (not all by any means), think they should be treated differently to how a man would be treated for the exact same offence and in reality, MOST of the time they are!
Because it’s been proven that women don’t have the same reaction to the justice system and by prison as men. That’s why the government has the Female Offender Strategy. Men and women ARE different and the way society fails to acknowledge that is insane.
Did anyone know if she herself was expecting to be treated differently it’s only the media that creates false unsubstantiated information to the public in some cases, trial by jury not the media .
The age of sexual consent in the UK is 16 for both boys and girls.
yes, but she was in job which gave her power over children.
Children also trusted her because of her job.
If I remember correctly, that's only when both people are under 18 but I could be wrong.
Both were 15 when she started with them
@masterbaraman9372 Yes you are wrong.
@Steven-hq3go Then they were under the age of consent. Also as their teacher she abused her power.
I am not defending her actions in anyway, just pointing out some facts of the case.
She shouldn't have got bail
Everyone is entitled to bail regardless of public opinion. Unless there is a specific reason for bail to be denied.
She shouldn't have even gone to jail.
Men are different than women. End of. Don't ever try and compare us. We can have sex and leave it at that. We don't catch feelings and all that stupid crap that women do.
They are probably leaning towards a suspended sentence that's why she got bail.
She is amazing ,a damn shame I never had her as a teacher
One of the kids was 16 which is legal
15 and 16-year-olds are often not innocent children. Many have been very sexually active since the age of 14, some even younger. Sadly, this is a modern day fact. Of course, there is absolutely no excuse for a person in a position of responsibly such as a teacher to abuse their position.
She should be in prison ? .she is in prison isnt she ?? Didnt she have a baby in prison ?
If this was a man he’s be doing prison time
Women live life on easy mode
She's going to prison, don't worry about that. The judge has made it clear that she's only being bailed so she can see her baby one last time before sentenced. My guess is that she'll get around 6-8 years for this.
She’ll be baking cakes with Lucy Letby for a few years then let out
To the people saying think of her child, would you say that if she was a man? No, instead the man would never have access to that child. Complete double standards. This was a child predator who used her position of power to abuse to children. They should make an example of her and give her the same time as a 30 year old male teacher would get for doing this to two 15 and 16 year old girls in his care.
The teenage boys weren't abused, trust me.😂😂😂😂
So, she had her 2nd underage lad whilst suspended from work for having the 1st one.
And she coincidentally got pregnant while under investigation.
Terrible, manipulative person.
I'm glad the prosecution called her out on having the child's bonnet visibly tucked into her waistband, to try and elicit sympathy from the jury.
And what about the Muslim grooming gangs that are still operating freely btw
They’ve just took down a comment that had a few comments all talking about Islam and child groomers, seems gb news doesn’t like the fact that the main contributors to it are Muslims
Lol here we go. Mate look at the stats white men are top of the list, so deal with the christians 1st b4 u start on the muslims.
Why you defending her
@@Mrk-9how is that person supporting this vile female teacher????
@@Mrk-9 he’s not he’s talking about the bigger unreported crimes which pretty much sums this whole thing up, how she making so much media when Muslim men in my country rack up the massive % of child rapists in Britain
If you do the crime you gotta do the time no matter whether you are male or FEMALE !!! Period............
there is nothing to discuss. If the argument is that women shouldnt be jailed because the underage boy "enjoyed it" then a good looking man could make the same case if the underage girl "enjoys" it.
Both genders as randy as each other these days and just as likely to get involved in such shenanigans so maybe there is a case for it
Teenagers as old as 15yrs old should also be held accountable. They are old enough to know that what they are consenting to is unacceptable.😅
Knew how to say no at that age but that does not seem to be the case today
She's a 30 old teacher in a position of trust. He's a 15 year old student. Legally , he can't consent. He didn't commit a crime to be held accountable for. She did.
@@Smithpolly Students get involved in these things because they know that there are no consequences for them . If there was rule that they would be expelled for getting involved in affairs with a teacher it may make them think about keeping it in there pants or legs shut in the case of females . Parents would also take more interest in there kids sex lives if they knew that was going to happen .
@@johnbarlow4572 It's not an affair.
@@Smithpolly They all knew what they were doing so would call it an affair .
Bunch of dumbass's and the only one i feel sorry for is the kid growing up having them for parents. He/ she might be lucky and be put up for adoption and avoid them in the future
i don't think those boy's would get damage from this, any teenager boy's dream of having sexuall relationship with a hot teacher.
It was never a dream I had
@@Andrewjc222Because you're into guys😂😂
@@No-Lie-I-Want-To-DieI’m not, I’m heterosexual, I’m scared of intimacy that’s why I could not have dreamt it
Where is your outrage for the first lady of France??
How come she got off with no consequences?
Yeah,
but she’s now the First Lady 🤫
We don’t live in a just world, people (women) arguing about gender equality are only cherry-picking the parts that they want, and dominating the narrative
In a truly fair and balanced society half this $h!t wouldn’t be debatable
We have no jurisdiction over France. You'd have to take it up with them.
@@Wulfyr someone could say something instead of acting like it's all fine.
She was asked to leave him alone by the parents and refused. He was 15 and she was married with kids. Just as much a predator in position of trust.
@@redbird9658 You have made a great point about the French first lady, even though this is in France not the UK.
@@redbird9658 I don't actually have any idea what you're talking about. I have no information about this situation you're referring to. We're not even connected through the EU anymore. If she's done some weird shit then she should be prosecuted. Why isn't your country doing anything about it? You're in exactly the same position as regards France as we are.
So what that presenter Ann says "is prison the right place for her to be rehabilitated" Would she want a male rapist to escape a prison sentence to assist with his rehabilitation? Women often have a very strange sense of true justice!
My martial arts teacher raped and sexually assaulted me for 6months. I came forward years later and his dbs would flag if enhanced check was done to help protect other victims. Dbs now say it’s inappropriate to have this showing on his dbs but my case remains on police database as intelligence. Another victim came forward online this Monday it deleted everything due to trolling before they could be traced for police to speak to them. I’m glad to see these victims have justice because for those of us who tell what happened to us and nothing happens - it’s hell.
You were just learning the art of fook yu
@@kwahdomo9598ok mohamamd
Sorry to hear that. Wish you all the best
@@John858_ Sorry you went through that.
Did you made an allegation and it wasn't taken forward due to lack of evidence? If he's presumed innocent without conviction it can't exactly be held against them indefinitely. I'm not saying you're a liar but you should see it from the police perspective.
Where was these teachers when I was younger…
What harm was done? (Apart from the child)?
The 2 boys had a great time up until she fell pregnant, then boy 2 panicked and cried wolf! She probably wasn’t found out until boy 1 started boasting to people in class how he was banging the teacher. Imagine how cool he would have felt.
If that was a man he'd be in jail 😢
she literally said if it was a man i wouldn't be asking this... is prison the right thing oh the equality
Did the boys file a complaint? 😂My math teacher too used to be fine and if she let me hit I wouldn't snitch
i guarantee she will not see jail, imagine one day being able to put your victim on csa uk courts sexist joke
Judge has said she will face custodial sentence but how long that is the question . Prisons full so probably a suspended sentence
She should be in jail. If there’s no jail it will just encourage more of the same. The law is the law and for anyone saying ‘it’s different’ WHAT AGE would you call it wrong at? Ten?
Why are we all so quiet about this?? Is it because she's white that we are giving her a free pass???
I am sorry if you find this story distasteful but while you read this look up Paul Thorpe's video yesterday and I am guaranteed you will be speechless. This ideology that we are being forced to embrace does something far worse than this school teacher. Double standards at play, yet we must tolerate one of them.
This should not be a debate about if she should go to prison, she was in a position of trust and has put the burden of fatherhood on a child for her own selfish needs not to mention the statory rape.
What this needs to be a debate about is if age of consent at 16 has tobe so obviously now a joke. Because by this logic if she had waited 1 year todo what she did as a 30 something year old women in the eyes of the state she has done no wrong and people don't even call for the heads of those who do this, romeo and juliett laws allows this to happen when there is a few years between participants. But my god 30 years old and anything under 18 is clearly wrong.
One thing missing here. Age of consent. Isn't one of the teenagers 16 yrs old? Didn't they collude with the teacher? Regardless of what society have to comment about the moral issues at hand. The teenagers were very much voluntary participants. Decipher the evidence properly please. The parents are being very overwhelming at pains to blame. Rather than admit the students would give their lives to bed MISS. She didn't abduct or kidnap them. This sexual behaviour happens all over the UK. Every week day and mostly at weekends.
She was their teacher and in a position of trust so the age of consent doesn't apply until 18.
@@justonecornetto80 As long as its all kept outside the school i don't see the problem . Have rules that anything inside will result i serious consequences like the teacher being sacked and losing teaching licence taken away and student expelled . Could also make it one or the other should have to relocate to another school .
@@johnbarlow4572 Relationships between a teacher and pupil are banned because they're a serious breach of professional ethics and lifting that ban would open the door to all manner of predatory behaviour.
How long would it be until 16 year old girls started coming home from school to inform their parents that they had been knocked up by the teacher they had a teenage crush on?
Joynes blatantly abused her position by using the two boys as coping tools to deal with her feelings of rejection spawned by the breakdown of a long term relationship. She even became pregnant by one of them when she was on bail ffs! I wouldn't want somebody like that anywhere near my kids, let alone teaching them.
@@justonecornetto80 I t would be on the assumption that at 15 /16 you have a brain and capable of using it and saying no to a teaches advances if you did not want to get involved as we did back in the day . Maybe the youth of today are not that bright as they do not seem to have that ability
I’m sure the 2 boys were heart broken
😂
Being exploited by a predator probably comes with some emotional damage
@@redfa1nt567thank you, someone with some emotional intelligence
@@redfa1nt567they knew what they were doing.
@@redfa1nt567 tell me those boys didn’t no what they were doing until the poo hit the fan then they were changing their stories so not entirely innocent they also new what text messages they were sending too , they had a choice of not trying all the phone numbers to discover Rebecca Joynes phone number so defo not entirely innocent
If she doesn't get a lengthy prison sentence, then they'll be sending out the wrong message.
The woman and men need to be prison if they have "romance " to one minor, some minor. Sometimes, there are dating couples of 20 and 16, and if the shovel objects, the adult is even charged Now I can't imagine a teacher or teacher, it doesn't matter. There is no reason to argue whether men or women are treated the same.
Remember the woman who stabbed her partner about the head and face 20 times and dodged a prison sentence because it might affect her career.
Unbelievable. Who really are the privileged
Pure double standards, you think if it was a man guilty of what this women done anne would be saying he is sick and is prison the right place for him. You see this older women defending other womens criminal behaviour.
Watch this, boy 2 and her will end up in a relationship years from now! Mark my words.
Mary Kay Leterneau type thing . Had a kid by a 12 year old and they married after she was released from prison and then had another one
Social justice and box ticker.
✌🏻😎🏴Women shouldn’t have lesser sentences. Equal rights equal sentencing.
Double standards, as usual.
Once the father turns 18, will he be put on child support?
Old enough to know what they were doing and used protection . Take responsibility for your actions should be the case
@@johnbarlow4572 what a throwaway statement. The boy's life is ruined from a crime of 🍇 ?
It really wouldn't surprise me if the baby is given to her while she is in prison... or the conviction is somehow quashed and she is then released early from prison. She is a paedophile pure and simple, but there are plenty of people who have sympathy for her and would disagree that she has committed a serious crime at all. Disgusting.
If that were a man i wonder but cause its a woman. She's just going to get a slap on the wrist. Slap on a heavy sentence to show the rest long time in jail but nooooooo weak ass law system never does its job properly
Because men and women are different
yes , that's why men rap and the women having just ex.
I mean men and women are different aren't they?
Isn't that why you all freak out about trans people constantly
Where were these women teachers when i was at school.
Who are these people? YES, she could have her baby with her in prison if it's very young, there are Mum & Baby houses at Styal.
Would it depend on how long she gets .Assume there would be a time limit for how long she could keep it with her depending on how long a sentence she gets . Would hope she gets a short sentence and then let her , the father and both sets of parents decide what is best for the child without the media hounding them . Dickheads like this GBnews lot on there case is the last thing they need
Beautiful young lady rebecca joynes. X
Its not that unusual, my young female RE teacher was after me when I was 15 in 1993, difference being kids were not constantly sexualised back then so I knew it was wrong!
Do men in identical circumstances belong in prison then???
Utterly astounding that neither of them knew that a woman can't rape by law.
Thank goodness that man was in that interview. The women was literally asking if prison is the right place for a child rapist?? The world has gone mad
Sure as hell was not a child at 15/16 as i was working for a living and was not dumb enough to have unprotected sex
@@johnbarlow4572mate a 30 yr old sleeping with 2 15 yr olds is creepy af she was there teacher
@@PotterP-rl4rq . Not a teacher thing but lost virginity to an older female at 15 and did not thing she was creepy in the least .
15. .He's probly 6ft3 and built like a barn door 😂 He knew exactly what he was doing. She knew the risks also if caught so not much she can say as a defence
@@johnbarlow4572 of course you did boomer
The kids didn't stand a chance.
Lol
“Should she be in prison” Ann, stop smoking crack before you host
I don't think the young men were complaining.
WOODCHIPPER
He's completely sound with his comments.
Jail
Judge has told her to expect that but probably short one . If the guys stand by her and take some responsibility for there part that is
15 yr olds are v innocent , like shamina begun. so much hypcorisy
Some are and some are not . i left school the Easter after i turned 15 and by the end of the year was working, smoking . drinking in pubs , in bookies shops gambling om horses , no longer a virgin . Innocent i most certainly was not
Winston Davis is so articulate. So good to see an ex prisoner given a voice and being able to speak from a place of experience and commonsense.
Right boys, hear me out...
No divided opinion, jail.
Why is Anne Diamond still on our screens?
Oh its not unusual. Many men use the mental health card to duck prison. Once they get caught. And it works.
I don’t think mental health gets you out of prison. You just get sent to a psych ward instead, then on to prison as soon as you recover.
People actually think if ur crazy they just let you roam the streets instead of being locked up haha
Some of yall need to be in mental health facilities cause you braindead
absolute tosh 2 time when i was a kid i heard of female teachers with student it was brushed under the carpet
More common than people think it is
Exactly @@John858_
I maybe wrong but I have a feeling she won't go to prison
Judge has told her to expect a custodial sentence so it looks like she will but probably no a long one .