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- When Muslim women come forward with stories of sexual harassment and abuse, the far right cheers-and many other Muslims tell them to shut up. But they can't be ignored anymore.
In this episode of "Who's Afraid of Aymann Ismail," Aymann meets with Mona Eltahawy, the creator of the #MosqueMeToo movement, to explain the unique and distressing challenges Muslim women face when coming forward with abuse.
the only time i was gropped was in Saudi. while i was covered head to toe. dont let anyone make you believe "its what you are wearing"
Really? In Saudi Arabia they get a dea*th sentence for that
11 years ago, we went to Mecca for Umrah as it was my dad's last wish. He went into a comma straight after performing his umrah and died 11 days later. Before the start of the prayer in the Harem, I went downstairs to kiss my dad's forehead one last time and as I was walking up stairs to join other women before the prayers started, I felt a whip on my back. I looked back and it was one of the old imams with a white stick telling me not to look at him, cover my face and hurry up. I said you son of a bitch, slapped him and pushed him down the stairs. I was was so angry even whilst praying that I wanted to go back and teach him a lesson
Amira Issa good for you!! Many women wouldn’t have been so brave, maybe it’ll make him think twice about doing it to any other women also.
Even in front of the Kaaba and such, doesn't mean people would behave purely. I remembered during the thawaf I got pushed hard to the side by a group of pilgrims. It's like they're in a trance. Talk about wanting redemption while being a jerk to other pilgrims...
I'm a muslim guy and your comment just made my day :) especially when you said you slapped and pushed that animal.
Gooo gurl !!!!
Woohoo!!!!! 👏👏👏👏
EXCELLENT PIECE...I am not Muslim but have Muslim female friends and they have stated the same issues. THANKS FOR BEING A STRONG MAN AND ADDRESSING THIS SERIOUS ISSUE...Please keep me posted👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
I'm a guy but this thing happened with me too multiple times in makkah during tawaaf and in madinah mosque while praying.....this thing is more common than people think, but people don't talk about it bcz they respect Allah and Islam so much..... 😒
If women covered from head to toe are being sexually harassed this is a huge problem because they are not doing the things some men use as an excuse for their actions. How do you justify this?
Like others have pointed out this is a leadership problem, women need to be in leadership positions cause otherwise only one group is getting their voice heard.
Don’t be blind to the issues in front of you.
I also went to umrah and had a man try to press against me. The whole first round the kabaa I asked Allah to forgive me. I wedged my bag as much as I could between me and the man behind me. I was with my husband at the time. Afterwards, I refused to do tawaf on the floor of the kabaa and did the long tawaf on the rooftop.
@@AA123TD you know... Allah digs your efforts - and I'm sure he doesn't bless those morons. Little TIP from a fellow God Lover... God Hears you praying and pleading to him when you are upright and walking... so You can always pray while they are bugging you and you are leaving and you can pray in private if need be and remember God loves those prayers the most anyways! Praise God :) He is personally interested and eager to hear you pray to him every day Ma'am. Put all your burdens on God, and God will take them. Obey our loving God, and he will preserve you for eternity no matter what they do to you... God won't forget you... ever. :)
On a funny note you could do what some female police officers do in the USA... Put Huge flat plastic boards in their pants so they look ... um... like men... You could get some pepper spray and make sure you always wear sneakers, and a tear away burka in case sprinting from your attacker becomes needed... YOu could get a cattle Prod, an electric one... never be violent for God's sake, but defend yourself, by poking a cattle prod with 5 millions volts of low voltage "knock you on your butt" power! Then hit them over the head with it - then RUN...after you pepper spray them! :)
Seriously... Be Safe, God is where it's at, idiots are everywhere IN and OUT of Religion - That goes for all people anywhere godless or not - some are decent - some are out right wicked and/or evil. You, are a gem, keep the faith :)
the only way to do that, is eradicate the fake Saudi kingdom.
Islam didn't just give women the responsibility of covering them self and that's it men are also order to lowering their gaze. And surely Men are at faulty here.
I agree. Nikolsan. Where are the safe places? There is no excuse for sexual assault of men women and children. Especially if someone is dressed modestly.
ughhhh "OUR sisters, OUR mothers, OUR daughters, OUR wives!". sorry sheikh, women are people too, who are not just defined by their position in relation to men.
It’s infuriating that anyone can sexually assault a woman, and then go home and be respected as a hajji in the safety of anonymity.
I don’t agree with every bit of Mona’s theology. But we all need to sit down and be quiet when she speaks about the intersection of feminism and Islam, and especially about the attacks Muslim women face from all sides.
ThankGodالله UmmerFarooq There is no pornography in the Muslim countries and sexual abuse still occurs there. Whenever we go to Saudi Arabia with my family, my parents will never allow me to leave the house by myself because the men there are always sexually assaulting, even when women there are wearing abaya and niqab. You have to admit that Muslim men have issues and no one is willing to speak about it, so Mona bringing it up is good. This is the only way she will get people to talk and do something.
Mo S
dude, you are lying right now
winning &making peace-I which bit am I lying about?
Mo S
i had a conversation with my female cousins one day. i asked them if they experienced sexual harassment in saudi. and they said no, not at all. except one said that one guy tried to flirt with her, but besides that, they both didn't feel any sexual harassment in saudi. one was living in jeddah and one is still living in riyad. so i assume what you said about saudi is utter nonsense.
winning &making peace-I Ohh wow so you asked two females and concluded by saying that I’m lying because what I say doesn’t go with what they say. Are you aware that people can have different experiences! I’m sorry but you sound really uneducated and ignorant. Just because your cousins haven’t been sexually harassed doesn’t mean the entire female population in Saudi hasn’t either. Every single person in Saudi Arabia knows that a if a female goes out alone, she will get harassed. Maybe your cousins haven’t left the house alone.
I wish that the molvi saabs would address this too. Growing up I never heard anyone talk about abuse in the muslim community. It happens. Everywhere.
The same thing happened to me - the first and only time a stranger groped me was when I was doing hajj. And I was 14. It happened 3 times when I was there, the first time was literally when I was in the haram standing and making du'aa. I moved and he just followed me. I was wearing a full head to toe hijab, the most modest way I had ever dressed or have ever dressed since. Clothing has nothing to do with it.
Thats part of Islamic religion/culture. Islam has a text on how to rape an infant in a "halal" way. Sick twisted violent religion.
I'm sorry this happened to you. Thanks for sharing.
The problem with Muslim men and societies is the fact that most are blatant with their discrimination towards women... I grew up in a progressive Muslim country and family, and I thought these discriminatory attitudes towards women were 'normal'. It's sad, because even a lot of Muslim women, particularly in less developed societies think it mandate for their husbands or men, in general, to be abusive towards them. If it's not abuse then it's a sort of power struggle that leans in favour of men because of the patriarchal nature of society. It's really sad and I wish more Muslim men would talk about it but most are either brainwashed, too afraid or caught up in their own testosterone.
I appreciate you speaking up about your experience from a more progressive family. But you know that even if they weren't Muslim that men wouldn't act or think so differently? If you've ever watched any Asian dramas, especially Korean dramas, watch enough of them and you can see how they treat their women. Perhaps it's not as blatant but the same sentiment exists. And Asia is full of all different kinds of religions and atheists. Here in America as well, it's the same. That's why the #metoo movement blew up.
This is great. It has made me realise how much intersection matters. I wouldnt have thought about this added hurdle for Muslim women during the metoo movement.
Lol you obviously know nothing about islam :p
exactly :) intersectionality is designed to destroy the west, the only place where you could possibly have a voice. Intersectionality creates this ridiculous situation where the so called far right can cheer something, and intersectional feminists support the perpetrators because they just can't see reality.
Mike Carrington lol nope its about understanding how lots of factors effect peoples experiences. Like this video showing religious affiliation effecting different women
ProfessorBorax honestly don’t know a great deal but I want to live in a world where women can stand up to sexual harrassment no matter the religion and not be punished for it
FLIPPYNMADZ Every religion has different rules on how peope need to behave. You can't always keep a religion and throw out the sexual misconduct, because what a religious person considers to be good is not based on common sense but on doctrine.
A bad person is a bad person. If someone is a thief, they probably won't be able resist from stealing, just because they are performing Hajj or Umrah. I know that's hard to hear but it's the truth.
Pickpockets are rife there, which is why pilgrims do everything they can to protect themselves whilst going around the Kabaah. People will deny this on here, but it's the truth.
What this lady is taking about is real. During Hajj, this happened to a girl who was travelling with us, similar story to what this lady described in the video. She was crying and telling a few of the females what happened.
I asked her why she did not make a scene when he did what he did, her reply was I'm performing Hajj therfore I have to keep patience, by making a scene i am going against the teachings of Hajj.
I told her no, he sexually assaulted you, you should have spoke up immediately and let the police deal with it. But she stuck to her opinion.
I believe alot of women share the same views as her, therefore would not report what happened. Another reason is shame. As by informing the police there and then, everyone finds out which is embarrassing for the woman.
The police are very strict there, I do believe if it was reported there and then it would get dealt with. But there's a reluctance to report, because of the reasons I mentioned above.
To my Muslim brothers. This woman is not shaming us, she is speaking the truth. When performing Hajj or Umrah, keep your ladies safe, stay with her, especially when going round the Kaaba. As the number of people there is large, and people are within close proximity of one another.
It's naive to believe that these things don't happen just because we are performing a pilgrimage.
This matter should be discussed openly to protect future female pilgrims.
We need to fix the root of the problem as well, fixing the mentality of men. The mentality that they can do anything they want, that they have power and area able to treat women like objects.
If we don't fix the root of the problem, the problem will never be fixed.
That is just terrible.
I think a lot of times women are in such a state of shock (especially when it happens in a place like the Haram) that it takes them a while to realise what's happened and after a few minutes or hours have passed they feel now it's too late as the perpetrator is gone. The sister probably did not want to cause a scene and disturb seemingly serene environment and other worshippers.
Also I do not feel confident that Saudi police would actually do anything about it.
@@helloitshuda7500 Absolutely. Mothers (and fathers) have a responsibility to raise their sons to respect and cherish women.
Egyptian Muslim feminist speaking:
First, it's the first time for me to see Mona on a video and I absolutely love her! The video is great and thanks for having the courage to discuss #mosquemetoo.
Second, for all the people talking about abusive Islam, you need to know this: problems with Islamic teachings and societies can't be solved via people who've never been Muslims nor studied Islam and Islamic societies.. It needs to come from Muslims (aware and brave enough) themselves. I've seen many misinterpretations of Quran and many wrong translations for out of context verses, and despite having personal conflicting opinions with some verses, I have seen in Quran - both as a spiritual book and a religious teachings book - enough to make me make efforts to understand what God wants to tell me through it. You can never judge from the outside.
Muslims are different, we don't have one set of unified beliefs. Some of us believe in Sunna and others don't, some take direct teachings of one Islamic school, and others choose another, some may not take the teaching of any school at all! The only unified book between us is the holy Quran, which also doesn't have one unified interpretation. Most Muslims however, do follow very similar teachings that change according to where they live and the group they belong to. Saudi Muslims for example mostly believe veils should cover a woman's face, while most Egyptians believe wearing wide clothes and a headscarf is enough, covering the face is a preferable extra, a very small group of Muslims believe veils aren't needed at all even in prayers. All these opinions are derived from Islamic culture, Quran, teachings, Sunna.. etc. All these opinions also range from the extreme right to the extreme left, and at the end, Islam is a very flexible religion, like most religions, takes the shape of its believers.
I believe spirituality to be a very sacred thing, very personal and very selective. I choose Islam and I'm aware I can leave it, also aware that having different opinions about it can harm me. But what's more important is I can be a Muslim and defend feminism and demamd equal rights! It's far more complicated than just believing in a religion that's looked down upon as abusive or fake...
Dina Taha it would be much better if islam
Would not exist. Islam
Is the biggest problem in Europe today
Queen Queenly
It's quite shallow to say Islam is the biggest problem because no, there are many other big core problems. And saying what you said is like me saying I hope Europe didn't exist because Europeans invaded Egypt and many countries in the region for decades, did so to other poorer counties around the world, which lead us all to suffer from the consequence until today!
Another note, if you are talking about terrorism, we also have our share of problems from it because terrorists target everyone, if you are talking about ideology, there are many ideologies to choose from in general and no one forced you to take Islam as yours, if you are talking about behaviors from middle eastern people, it's more of a problem of cultures not religion. So?
Queen Queenly
I agree with you that this happens, actually if you come up as an atheist, or any religion other than Islam or Christianity, or an agnostic in our community, you can get hurt (even tho the numbers of these beliefs are rising in many countries, even Saudi Arabia)..
However, this isn't because of Islam, more of a cultural/common belief issue. Parents feel obliged to bring up their kids the same way they did, especially in conservative societies, this can be found in Christian families living here as well, they also tend to keep their kids strictly Christian.
In general, conservative Muslim countries aren't acceptable of other religions or different Islamic ideologies for many reasons, Egypt have had religious variety for sometime until it turned to a republic and things went down hell after the 80s.
Another reason is the widely spread false belief that Allah ordered Muslims to kill those who leave Islam and called them hypocrites. It's spread by the more conservative teachings through Sunna and Islamic history books that talked about Sahabis killing reverted Muslims (a Sahabi is one of the companions of Muhammed in his life). Long story short, people are discouraged by death and hell from accepting or even considering other believes to have some right in it (even other opinions in the same religion), and they are brought up to believe their beliefs are the only right ones.
Queen Queenly I don't mean to be chatty, so sorry for my long replies 😅
There was a time in the 80s and 90s to the early 2000s in Egypt, where religious audio tapes of Sheikhs talking hysterically (crying and screaming actually!) about hell and the horrible fate in the after life. They were used to control our mindsets, caused many women to wear veils and cover their faces, men to be abusive and grow beards, and it was the time when our public schools had separated sexes after primary school until college. Egyptians were filled by shame, fear of the afterlife, and a sense of regret. The effects of these tapes are still living to this day. All I want to say is that we are cursed by conservatives.
Dina Taha I wish Egypt could be free from religion so every egyptian would be a free thinker and never have to fear a god or follow strange Islamic rituals
This isn’t as horrible as sexual assault but I wanted to point it out. It is Ramadan at the moment and being a woman I have had my period and I’m not fasting. Is there a stipulation for anyone else in their families where no man is supposed to know you have your period? It’s absolutely ridiculous! I have to hide the fact that I’m going through a normal human process from my father, brother and uncles. If anyone knows a legitimate reason for this I would like to know.
في الدورة الشهرية المقبلة ارفع راية او لافة فوق المنزل ليعلم كل الشعب انك حائض
Flyhigh I usually tell my family, especially my male family members and like the discomfit look on their faces. We need to normalize it and not be ashamed of something natural. I also think it's more of a cultural thing.
Flyhigh u did the right thing as no one needs to know about such a personal matter n those who truly care wud understand
Theres no rule. Shout it from the heavens if you like. If this is what you're expected to do then it was an example taught by your mother.
We don't have this kind of problems in my family, but I know many women who have the same issues
This is not addressed in Synagogues, Roman Catholic Churches, Evangelical Christian Churches, or Mosques. This is such a taboo, that almost all religious leaders are complicit by there silence of perpetuating the disenfranchisement and abuse of women.
YES, THANK YOU!! This is what people should be getting out of the video if they can't understand that Muslim women, like other religious women, have a more nuanced experience with the #metoo movement.
@@toBe8ere
Absolutely not, lot of muslim women like to hide that they are being harassed . Just look at pakistan .
You can't end this unless women are in position of power in Muslim communities.
Women have been heads of state in different Muslim countries though
They'll be killed off if they speak up.
Edward Bibillio that's bullshit. We have many muslimahs who speak up. Stop spreading lies and hate you disgusting pig.
James Cooper you have been going around targeting every Muslim woman on here. Dumbasd make up your mind
Rabeelah Khan "targeting" sport you inbreed infidel dogpiss, 1. They are not muslims, 2. I'm just debating and debunking their lies.
Hey Aymann Ismail, thanks for putting these videos together -- I hope a lot of people get to see them!
All so true. As someone living in KSA for almost all my life, i know this story is a 100% true. My personal countless experiences in holy places have been such which concludes that men don't care if its a holy place or not, if they have a opportunity due to, let's say; crowd, they will not fail to avail it. I hardly know any girl, whether it be my sisters or friends, who has not experienced this in a holy place (or ANY place for that matter) and it is a very open discussion between all of us.
Religious authorities are all men. Who do you complain to when the authority that’s supposed to protect you is the one abusing you?
This video speaks to me on a whole other level... Always mind blowing work. Keep it up
I heard the same story from my friend when we talked about sexual harrassment cases happen in mecca so many years ago.
Then she told us story of her mom that happened inside masjidil haram during 90s haji. So her mom was separated from her dad because of the crowd. And next thing she knew was that she was lifted by a man onto his shoulder. And yes I had asked so many times, it happened inside masjidil haram, mecca. And my jaw dropped 😦😦😦😦😦😦
And she said since she heard that story, she wasn't surprised if rapping happen a lot in middle east.
Rape happens in Arabic Countries more than any other, because a woman is treated less fairly than a man and is considered less than a man in the Qu'ran, and because of Gender Apartheid, and victim-shaming and blaming, and a patriarchal society that Treats the Qu'ran as if it was truth. That means that atrocious conditions will continue within Islam without abatement, and the only way to live a normal life is to ESCAPE to a country where there is democracy, and separation of church and state. That means atrocious and barbaric antiquated laws will not be perpetuated in society by ANY religion. We in the Democratic First world put religion into the proper perspective in society, so society can advance, whilst retaining its cultural identity. Islam ERASES cultural identity in a totalitarian control and barbaric belief-system that demands slavish devotion to superstition and ritual. No other belief system is tolerated within Islam, and apostates are KILLED. This shows that Islam cannot stand up to scrutiny and the light of day. In all other belief systems, BELIEF and blind devotion are not mandatory; your family will still love you, if you decide Christianity or Judaism are not for you. In many ways, the Muslims are like the Scientologists (L.Ron Hubbard), they cannot absorb or tolerate criticism, and they demonize apostates.
I would love to hear more about efforts to put more women in leadership positions within Islam. Since patriarchy is one of the issues keeping women from speaking truth and having agency it seems like that would be one good solution.
To be clear i'd like to say i don't doubt this effort is being made or has been made in plenty of places, it's just a subject i would love to learn more about. I'm sure there will be plenty of people concern trolling and what not so i'd like to be clear.
That's oxymoronical when dealing with islam..
SWR 360 ,, women are 2nd class citizens in Islam you fool, "Read something for Gods
Sake.
• Testimony of a woman before a judge is worth half that of a man.
• Women are to receive just one half the inheritance of a male.
• Muslim men are given permission by Allah in the Koran to beat their wives.
• Muslim men are given permission by Allah to commit marital rape, as they please.
• Muslim men are permitted to marry up to four wives and to keep concubines in any number.
• Muslim women may marry only one Muslim man and are forbidden from marrying a non-Muslim.
• A woman may not travel outside the home without the permission of her male guardian and must be accompanied by a male family member if she does so.
Not really all of your points can be addressed very easily.
1-The testimony requirements call for 2 men in the verse and if there aren't 2 men available then there can be a man and 2 women. This is due to the fact that islam does not allow the free and open conversation between unknown or strange men and women. Thus the women can freely converse with each other for the testimony.
2-This is the default inheritance and you can distribute your wealth amongst your children as you please and please be noted that at the time of this law women did not receive any form of inheritance from their fathers and Islam allowed women inheritance, now as for the half part this was mainly due to the reason as women didn't really require money at that as men did so their inheritance was lower but as they are more independent now they should demand for equal inheritance.
3-Muslim men are not allowed to beat their wives for the sake of punishment or any other reason. Although they can discipline them by scolding them or if that doesn't work then a separation from the wife until she realizes her mistakes. Although now a days you can just resolve issues between the couple by conversation.
4-Yes men can marry up to 4 women but only in the strict rule that he treat them all equally and fairly. Which is pretty impossible so it's a very uncommon practice throughout the muslim world.
5-Women can only marry one man because at that time we didn't have the technology to determine the father of the child so it would cause issues in the society as to who is the child's father. Muslim men cannot also marry non-muslim women and is a very very rare incident.
6-Women can actually travel outside the home and this was mostly forbidden in the time when there wasn't much modern decency and morals found in that age and usually a male family member needed to accompany her to keep her safe.
Hope these answers can clear up your queries.
There are more women in the Saudi government than in the Americsn government.
And why do people ALWAYS use the same arguments against Islam without context?
Come on, you're better than this...
Muslim Men: " They asked for it. "
@Jay "White men" Absolute racist.
ruzzell907 Replacing ‘Muslim’ with ‘Christian’ would also be similarly offensive.
@@Land07 Muslim is a religion, not a "race". And it is heinous, just read the Qu'ran, its online translated to English. Read how abhorrent Islamic beliefs are.
I remember when I went to Mecca I was around 14 and I got sexually assaulted around 4 times. I remember moving away really quickly and just give them a dirty look but it was still a very terrifying experience and it’s been 4 years and I still haven’t told my parents about it.
One of my relatives said that when she saw the hasthtag for #metoo she was like, “that’s why islam has regulations on gender relations” and that pissed me off. You can’t just assume that a woman was sexually assaulted because she became friends with a guy. It could have been because she bent over to pick something up and a man groped her ass. This comment made by said relative leads to victim blaming! I like the #mosquemetoo movement because it raises awareness that it can happen anywhere. Even in the kabah of all places. This guy’s umrah will not be counted. These predators should go to hell
Eesha Khan no it doesn’t lead to victim blaming it leads to accountability.
so you're saying that if you're the victim, you're accountable for how you got assaulted in the first place? Isn't that what victim blaming is?
This comment reminds me of something. A relative of mine was assaulted in the middle east and rumours started that she was to blame because she was seen talking to him beforehand, as if somehow that gave him permission to do whatever he wanted. Oh, the twist is...after he raped her, he brutally murdered her. And yet people still victim blamed. Being too conservative around sex and gender relations is disastrous for people's freedom ! But everytime I've brought this up it's been "weaponised" as Mona put it so elegantly. What can we do?
But how can someone be accountable for being attacked? Sure, take protective measures, but ultimately sometimes we can take all the precautions in the world and still be attacked.
@Amandeep Wahi I am not sure what you mean. I am not Muslim by the way.
Aymann, good work bringing this issue out in the open. I had no idea that his happened. I agree with Mona. Regardless of whether it is used as a weapon by Islamophobes, this is a matter of justice.
This is definitely an issue that needs to be taken care of immediately. Men have to understand these fundamental ideas of respect, consent, and all that other good stuff; regardless of religion.
It's "not suppose to happen" everywhere!
It’s everywhere. Not just in these places. I’m sick of people saying that Muslims are horrible because of this, as it’s seen in every religion, community in the world.
Thank you for engaging with this topic. I was put in 3 awkward positions while working in the middle East. Before I explain, I'd like to say that I met many lovely people and I very much enjoyed working with and among Muslims. That said, I did experience sexual harassment...a taxi driver masturbated while I sat in the front seat, in the middle of the day...my local shopkeeper offered me 500 dirhams for sex...an employee on a train tried to come into my cabin at night and when I woke up and saw him he asked for sex. I'm so glad women are now getting the opportunity to speak and be heard. These experiences were distressing but I'd like to reiterate that the people I met as a whole were friendly and welcoming. All the best, Maeve in Ireland
I am so happy that someone is addressing this shameful issue!
Islam is not a regressive cult. We have so many ahadith about the married life of the prophet. Somehow we treat them as hush hush affair but What's the point if they are not to educate us?
All you women worshipers of Allah, raise your voice. You are not an individual, you are a culture, you are the upbringing, you are the community builder. May Allah help you with success in all the good intentions.
What does the Qu'ran say about women and how they should be treated? How much of the mistreatment of women a result of norms shaped by societal perception? How much of it is part of misogyny? A part of a patriarchal hierarchy? Do they teach boys and men how to treat women in mosques? How to communicate effectively as they prepare for marriage?
Marsha Creary Not they don’t. They teach women to cover up and know they’re place (which in Islam is below a man no matter how hard muslims try to deny it). Women need male permission to divorce, marry. They get half the inheritance of a man. In shariah courts their testimony is worth half that of a man. Islam says that hell has more female inhabitants than heaven which has more male.
Good questions. The Quraans promotes positive healthy and equal gender relations. Muslim men need to do more to live up to the Quraans ideal.
Just read Sunnah and the Hadith:
The best among you are the best to your wives.
@@hattix7233 Here are three verses from the Qu'ran about love explore-islam.com/three-beautiful-verses-about-love-compassion-in-quran/
@@hattix7233 www.pinterest.com/pin/398146423306931361/
We have to continue to raise our voices, and tell our stories. As a Latin convert to Islam I myself have faced sexual assault while performing Umrah during the last ten nights of Ramadan. It’s portrayed the huge elephant in the room, there is lots of sexual trauma within the individuals of Islamic faith. The cycle just replays itself in different forms.
Nice choice converting 😂😂🤣🤦♂️
@5:30 yes Mona. Men need to talk to each other. Mothers need to stop hiding their bras and female things from their sons and normalize their sons to females. I’m not saying it should be everywhere lol but not hiding them and being ashamed or disgusted. It starts with mothers and sisters!!!!!!!!!
If you hide your bra and make it seem like something disgusting and awful then your son will grow up not thinking that it’s a normal part of being a woman and so on and so forth!
The women in my family have done an amazing job at raising respectful sons, husbands, brothers, and overall boys and men who respect women and aren’t horny or stepping their boundaries.
If you hide your feminity and female issues from your sons and brother you’re raising disgusting men who see women as some object to be touched.
Men fathers brothers elders of society need to facilitate better conversations on these issues.
Even the prophet would have wanted Muslim men to treat women like how they want their sisters or mothers to be treated.
He wants Muslim Men to treat the Women with respect! Just in case you didn't know!
wow good for her. its always hard speeking out in such tight-knit cultures
Dori C very
A NON-muslim here. You are the ONLY MUSLIM MALE I have found on TH-cam who talks about this issue. Well done.
Yup happened with me twice in Makkah... That too while doing tawaf!!! I started praying to Allah to give them Naik hidayah or let them go to hell if they don't stop... This world is full of perverts...
Why are we muslim women jewish women white women black women - how about just women who do or do not consent. And those who do consent should have the backing of the law and the support of society
Feminist support and defend Islam. They can do no wrong.
Also I don't understand if hajj is the holiest place on earth its is supposed to be protected by Allah why are women being sexually assaulted there I am just curious since my mom is trying to make me go with her
Just a wild guess, Allah is a man?
Mona is cool, and the man who interviewed her also.
I really like the woman how she said it’s not islam, it’s society. This happens inside any religious group. Yet somehow everything is used as hate collateral when it’s islam.
We need to stop telling women that they will be safe from harassment if they cover themselves, because no matter if a woman is in a bikini or a burqa, she is still at risk.
Mona is very brave, I admire her strength and openness to talk about the hard things.
Just found your channel, I'm loving the content you're putting out there. Though you have a few viewpoints/interviews I don't fully concur with, I just want you to know I appreciate all the hard work going into your content :)
Sexual harassment is sooo common in Arabic muslim
Countries
Queen Queenly exactly! Sadly. And I know the emphasis here was on huge crowded areas like during hajj or umrah, but it happens everywhere in Muslim majority countries and irregardless of what a woman is wearing.
Genevieve you are very very right
Queen Queenly sexual harassment is sooo common in non Arab non muslim countries.
Do u remember that the #metoo movement started in the west? Guess why
James Cooper the me too movement is mostly about women getting sexual comments with men they already know and by men they know in their job. The Arab Muslim countries you have men sexualizing you on the street
Queen Queenly in non Arab muslim countries you get sexualy abused on the streets. The metoo movement is about women who have been sexualy assaulted. New York is a perfect example. Stop making this a Muslim issue
It's a huge sin to sexualy abuse women, it's not even allowed to abuse women with looking at them
I know this is not at ALL on topic for this video but I just fell in love with Mona Eltahawy bye
The way I see it, Mona is right and the critics of Islam are right. The ones criticising Mona for telling her story are wrong.
Mona is doing what many other Muslim women should be doing; speaking out against abuse they've experienced. The "Islamophobes" aren't wrong when they talk about subjugation of women in Islam and their comments help to provoke discussion on this matter, mainly for Muslim women.
You can't be a feminist and also be a devout Muslim; something has to give - or you have to be ignorant of the tenents of either ideology.
Dr D. Natarajan Exactly. The left pushes this agenda that "Islamophobia is fear or dislike of Muslims (people) and Islam (ideology)."
So if you criticise a Muslim your a bigot against all Muslims and if you criticise Islam you're a bigot against all Muslims.
Outstanding post.
I don't understand why they just don't leave Islam?
So if your President "grabs a woman by the pussy", you can't be White and be a feminist. Makes sense o_0 not! You're ignoring that it's an attitude prevalent across cultures, religions and nations.
This harassment is prevalent everywhere. But do you see anyone labeling Christians as such? No, right? So I don’t really understand why only one community is being labeled like this.
As a Muslim this is refreshing
I would love to further this message in my masjid. Is there any way I could get a copy of this video without music?
Honestly Aymann, men like you are amazing. You are willing to listen and understand, you're kind and empathetic, we need more men like you. There are alot of men like you, but sadly, the assholes can outnumber the kind. Keep doing what you do 💙
Many years ago...I met a Senegalese ex-muslim woman who had the very same experience as her!!!
Its true , last year I went for umrah and one arab guy harassed a woman who was a nonarab and she literally cried in front of me while doing tawaf ..I asked the security guard and he said "Its namaz time, move along"...I just dragged that one out silently as a friend and gave him a black eye ..(me boasting) 😂😂..But after that I always advise family members going there to keep the women in front and near ...
Great job on the video. It is very difficult to have conversations about sexual assault and gender roles in general. Add to that a religious aspect, it's almost impossible to get anyone to listen, much less understand or agree. I appreciate your effort of perpetuating these voices and feelings.
These videos are awesome. Very positive. A critique of a type of behavior within one community should not be used as a blanket excuse to dismiss that community. In our world, everything seems to be happening at the same time. It is very tiring. And at the same time, very exhilarating.
i went to mecca 8 months ago for my umrah, while i was circumambulating around the kaabah for my tawaf there was a wave of peoples( i don't remember what country they are from ) behind me and there's a group of turkish women infront of me and my family. The people behind me start to push us from behind, i was holding my sling bag at time with my hand to make sure that my sling bag stays properly. They push me so hard that i accidently touch the turkish women butt. It was never my intention to do so as this is my first time performing umrah. I know sometime it's unintentional, but if it was really intentional then this behaviour is not acceptable. Peace
Yes, but i think many times it's obvious wether a man did it on purpose or by accident.
Im 17 btw, i know that sometimes they take the advantage of having a crowd pilgrims giving them anomynity to cover their wrongdoings.
Thank you for your open minded style and unbiased reporting.. and for giving a voice to those that many try to shut down
Brother huge amount of respect for you to call 'em!
Keep the strength ladies
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Thank you for your work Aymann
These assaults simply have to stop. Go Mona!
ppl who say if there covered it wont happen should watch this video cuz clothes dont seem be the problem
Great work
As a Sikh this is horrible especially for me- this isn’t Islam this is calling yourself something you’re not- different between a saint and a person is a saint won’t perform these things and something that seems like a not that bad is what the saint stays away from if he messed up he will keep trying- trying to be good in all aspects- Islam needs a reboot - we need an Islam that sets an example
I'm an ex-muslim I believe that religion is dubious so I think islam is bad but I don't hate religious people. Why can't I critisize islam freely
this topic brings a huge conflict to the idea of hijab, since in islam hijab is a womens defence that prevents her and men around her from the sin of sexual arousal.this is why the topics like rape or harrasment will remain taboo, or ultimatly women is to blame. in muslim courts the first thing they ask is so what she (the victim) was wearing or whether or not she asked for it with her suggestive behaviour. and muslims claime that they respect women? that they love and protect them? no women are nothing but property. i grew up in a muslim country as a muslim i live abroad but still dont have a voive among my commiunity and i am constatntly judged by outsiders.
My mom is too old school no way she would understand if I told her about the movement she wouldn't care and she wouldn't believe it saying they are liars. she is trying to force me to go to hajj too.
Covered or not covered, but to harass a women in hajj??
Shocked and sad to hear.... well done sister for speaking up...
N these r the beasts who judge women according their clothes..
even ka'bah isnt safe? the most holiest place in the world? gosh
Still boils down to u as a person. Religions are there as guidelines to live in harmony and peace.
Thanks, for all your videos, just thanks.
Thank you so much for doing this video
I like this and it’s proactive stance to aid the women through out these communities. It’s just what our women need is our genuine support
This is not acceptable. Respect is deserved for both man & woman.
She is not a muslim.. look how she insults. With F words ?!
The “hard place” she is referring to is not the Islamic community, rather, it is a section of scepticisme
The problem with educating Muslim men about consent is that the age of consent is different in every country. And that the interpretation for when a girl becomes a woman is very controversial. This is especially so in the East where child marriage still happens and hadith are used to justify copulation with a child as young as 6-9. So very difficult indeed without reformation and that's not even moot point.
Say what you like about the right... But they are absolutely right that there is an issue within islam
It a alarming situation and I want to tell you that it really common get your thing stolen in kaaba. I really don't have the idea where we are going.
What I do not understand here is why people are trying to shut her down..when it's a known fact sick ppl are found in every religion..
Why the govt is not taking any actions.
Wow! Absolutely in awe of your work! wish you talked to a few muslim men about what their views were on this?
This is so interesting and empowering, thankyou. (as a non muslim women, I love learning about all aspects of cultural, religious and gender intersections and debates. Thankyou.)
harassment is not good and the government should take serious action about it.
the problem is not this that people sexually harass, the problem however is that there needs to be a system to protect these ladies.
Please don't associate all bad things with Islam, certain things are just human nature. Take is as a serious problem and deal with it without dramatizing the whole situation. If there are people who are there just doing BS with ladies then there are many many more other people who go there for true spirituality.
Sexual assault and harassment at the mosque?? This blew my mind because my mosque is my safe place!
I do not want to take away from these women's experiences or the movement for them, but it is interesting to see the parallels between women in different racial, religious, ethnic intersections, and how the same rhetorics about "this group's patriarchy" are made and the response to them is a defense of men in general, regardless of their intersections. for example, in the Asian American sphere, Asian American men are often vilified for "hyperasianmasculinity" as a compensation for their emasculation by Asian American women, and the response is along the same lines as the Muslim men in this video. Defend yourselves from the right wing, but don't care about the women. However, it isn't "hyperasianmasculinity" that is even the problem. There is no point in vilifying one particular group especially if you are targeting a group whose still heavily marginalized, within their particular intersection, because there is often a bigger, more significant power at play which you cannot ignore. Again, not trying to take away anything from this very important specific issue, but just wanted to make notice of this.
I love this video! Every single thing said her is true.
I applaud you for making this.
Tbh,I try to accept Islam as part of culture and humanity.I am atheist.However,a religion stiffling speaking against abuse and maybe perpetuating abuse directly-by its people,I am continually repelled..
Also,isn't it time to ask if there is a reason to be afraid of non-American Muslims????Non-American Muslims affect how Muslims are viewed the world all over...
She was right to break her silence, as were the others. But sexual desire is not necessarily the evil that is on the same level of bombing countries because of their treatment of women. Men want to have sex with women - obviously wrong without consent. This is a natural urge. Some men see an opportunity to get some sexual gratification in a public place, where there may be the”plausible deniability” of accidental contact. They possibly may not be satisfied in their lives with the fulfilment of their sexual needs. And also, as many women can attest to - the larceny and clandestine nature of it is itself an aphrodisiac.
However, demonising Muslim men and using excuses such as these to justify the “collateral damage” deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians in the invasions of Muslim countries. This woman is correct in that the Imams should talk about this in order to curtail this behaviour. She is right to say that this “me too” movement in Islam can be “weaponised”.
I dont know why the lady who sounded american says she lives in a patriarchy, by LAW women have the same rights as men. There are no restrictions on women for careers or hobbies or whatever or however they live their life. I really think thats just a democratic cop out.
Islamic communities do have a huge patriarchy which seems to be enshrined in the religion itself its not a cultural thing.
Its my understanding that the islamic belief is the quran is the word of allah given to Mohammad and has never been changed and cant be changed. So, how do you expect muslim men to give women more respect and more rights?
But if you live in the west - you are governed by the LAW of the land NOT the religious teachings so it would be very irresponsible of Imams not to teach men they must live by the laws of the land when interacting with ALL women (not just islamic women) or they can have their lives ruined through jail etc. On the other hand if women want to live the traditional extreme version of islam by wearing the niqab, needing a man to go out with them etc.. whilst living in the west at least they then have the protection of the USA laws which over ride any religious law.
I agree that this isn't just a Muslim thing. A lot of people use religion for sexual gratification they couldn't get otherwise, legitimately. This includes all different systems and styles of religion and all different political philosophies. The predator will go wherever people go by religious obligation or political hysteria. The predator like nobody else understands the psychology of "sacred duties". What I think religion (and not only Islam) needs to revisit is Sufism and basically the unitive way of love, being divine attraction and intimacy! Only then will religious observance send the spirit flying once again. (I'm of the Catholic tradition, and I know we need this #LoveRevolution too!)
Excellent
How are men who seem normal do this? It's very scary
Must she swear
Whaouuuu even at the Kaaba?
That’s crazy. I might never believe that if I did not hear the testimony of the victim.
May Allah SWT protect us from any perverts and for sur he will pay it inchalah…
I learnt something new...Thankyou!
This actually reminded me of a memory which I had blocked. When I was in college my parents went to hajj for their 2nd time. There group used the same guide as they used first time around. They asked him to call me to let me know they had arrived safely. But then he started calling daily and started to speak to me inappropriately. He took advantage of his situation, that I was worried about my parents and that he was the one taking care of them. He thought I was alone at home. Luckily I told my elder cousin and she gave him an earful when he called and when my parents rang I told them and they dealt with him.
There seems to be such big links between sexism, racism and religion. Perhaps it is religion's fault?
There is a link between libralism, secularism and racism as well .
Mona’s is amazing! I love that woman!!
If it wasn't for American liberal influences on the Muslims in America, this topic would not be discussed, especially in majority Muslim countries.
This is nothing new. Almost everyone has heard it many times. I'm surprised that someone wants us to hear it again.