“those are filthy trams, we don’t touch those” Ah I see you've never listened to the classic hit Croydon Tram by Eccentronic. *And it's fun fun fun, on the Croydon tram tram tram!* You should make this a series and perfect other subway maps around the world
Mill Hill East was once connected to Edgware, but then it closed, and they only electrified it until mill hill. Jay Foreman has an excellent video on it.
I don’t know if toycat knows this, but his design of a bakerloo line extension is really accurate compared to an actual bakerloo line extension that is in planning, which would go through Peckham to Lewisham, near Greenwich (Edit) also, 19:35 “I think I was pretty reasonable” yeah... with your new tube line between Blackfriars and Farringdon you literally just built over and destroyed the Thameslink railway that runs in tunnels between there... probably for the better lol
Camberwell and Peckham route was scrapped in favour of Old Kent Road, with two stations between E&C and NXGate. TfLslowly pressing ahead despite funding not being secured. Same goes with DLR branch from Galleons Reach to Thamesmead. Loads of stuff published if you want to explore further.
There were plans to split the Northern Line, but this required a new station at Camden Town, as the existing station would be quite inadequate for the number of passengers changing. The plans were put on hold before the pandemic. The Charing Cross branch of the Northern Line is being extended from Kennington to Nine Elms and Battersea Power Station, and this should open late this year. At the moment, all off-peak Charing Cross trains (except Night Tube, when it returns) use the reversing loop south of Kennington. Perhaps some trains will still use it after the extension opens.
Catching up on my Andrew Andrews videos. Glad to hear you took my framerate suggestion in the last video. ibx2cat replied to that original comment so I wasn't sure if Andrew would hear about it but good to hear the communications department at Toycat Inc. is doing a fine job.
Tries to future proof Heathrow by building the loop near where Terminal 6 might be... Makes same mistake as when they tried to future proof Heathrow by building the loop near where Terminal 5 was going to be.
Pre-Elizabeth line - but that's why the Central to Ealing B'way is useful. H&Wealdstone is a great place to connect with faster trains to the north and midlands as many national rail services call there. My big scheme would be to connect Uxbridge to Iver - so joining the Met and Lizzy lines. Only 3.5 miles of track and one tunnel needed to make the latter line relevant to N.W. London...which it isn't currently.
Ironicallt Heathrow was origianlly meant to be future-proofed for a terminal 5. That's why they made it a loop rather than a simple terminus. And the Northern is operated as two lines during the peak hours - High Barnet (via Charinf Cross) to Kennington; and Edgware (bia Bank) to Morden. Although awkwardly this makes your names the wrong way round, High Barnet is the further north station and was the branch the Northern City line (from which the name came) would have conmected on to.
I would love to watch your videos on almost any platform that is not on YT. One of my favorite content creator ditched YT for good and is put his videos on Odysee.
And plus it’s pointless making a tiny Central line extension to the Bethnal green overground I don’t mind them adding Shoreditch High Street As a station but for Bethnal green they could just link the overground and Central line stations with an underground passenger subway
I don't really know how much nicer, but probably they are. We also still have trams driving around which were built in the 1940s and 1950s for some reason. A lot of them can be dirty though especially if they had a lot of people on or if they are one of the 70 or 60 year old trams I talked about earlier, with all of the stuff from people sitting in them for 70 years now accumulated in the seats.
You seem to have got rid of the N Line extension to Battersea Power Station Station. Is this part of your rationalisation of the N Line. Also, instead of removing MHE, you could just reinstate the line to MH The Hale and Edgware.
i think that when this video was made, battersea power station and nine elms hadn’t opened because i realised that as well but when i searched it up they were added on the tube map later in the year
Of course, the disused Charing Cross branch of the Jubilee goes as far as Aldwych. Could connect from there to Charing Cross to make a good interchange.
Bit late to the party, but your worst suggestions. Loop and u-shaped lines and routes based on the distorted tube maps. Line that goes to Blackfriars and the Farringdon… Think it’s called Thameslink.
To perfect the map pf the tube I made a new train line Westminster line Waltham cross enfield wash enfield chase bush hill park firs farm lordship lane noel park crouch end upper holloway highbury and islington angel liverpool street london bridge city thameslink covent garden charing cross westminster hyde park corner marble arch paddington north kensington old oak common lane hanger hill brentham garden castle bar park Willow tree 26 stops using 1996 stock but in 2027 it will come as 2019 stock 15 stops=suburb 11 stops=underground coming every 5-6 min
I respect your opinion on the Ealing Broadway withdraw I think instead of withdrawing the Ealing Broadway branch I think it should extend to Reading which is where crossrail ends
that was not the 2020 or 2021 tube map because the TfL rail didn't go to Heathrow airport or reading and the bakerloo line is going to Lewisham and to Hayes south east London it go to use the southeastern route to hayes and we need the tramlink
The Docklands Light Railway is a light Metro...it is not a "tram". There is no street running and the trains are driverless.....trams are not driverless.
I like the no-edit stream of consciousness filming but some things benefit from practising a good few times. A refreshing no-shame what if, but it was all let down towards the end by the lazy squiggly lines. Must try harder but thanks all the same.
I admire your effort to change the tube but TBH it is deeply flawed. You cannot get rid of the trams, in fact they should be extended, and your last line simply doesn't make sense, in fact my cat can do a better job. I have a vision for tube extensions too and they are far more effective. Also, I will not build Crossrail 2 as Thameslink extensions will be far more effective and certainly more cost effective.
As a transport consultant this is hilarious, and Ive also done this exericse before and went even crazier than you, Crossrail 3,4,5 and 6 You do know a lot of what you proposed have had outline business cases but just cant get funding Ok I get to the end and see you just drew Thameslink loooooooooool, please tell me you did that unknowingly
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“those are filthy trams, we don’t touch those”
Ah I see you've never listened to the classic hit Croydon Tram by Eccentronic. *And it's fun fun fun, on the Croydon tram tram tram!* You should make this a series and perfect other subway maps around the world
Is this a fellow couch member
You don't need to perfect the Pyongyang Metro map, we only have two lines
Could you shoot your missiles to Winnie the Pooh. If you did that you would be my favorite leader in the world.
Hey Kim, North Korea is best korea, but North Korea would be best nation if you shot your missiles at Winnie the Pooh.
are you the real monarch?
@@Alekspfg of course
@@Brash_Candicoot OH FU-
Mill Hill East was once connected to Edgware, but then it closed, and they only electrified it until mill hill. Jay Foreman has an excellent video on it.
Yes he does
Note: I normally comment as @hanstheexplorer.
And yes, that did happen.
also, i think that it would make sense for the western branch to instead go to bushey heath, or possibly both!
ya
“Very cheap to get around the city”
Me : No
I don’t know if toycat knows this, but his design of a bakerloo line extension is really accurate compared to an actual bakerloo line extension that is in planning, which would go through Peckham to Lewisham, near Greenwich
(Edit) also, 19:35 “I think I was pretty reasonable” yeah... with your new tube line between Blackfriars and Farringdon you literally just built over and destroyed the Thameslink railway that runs in tunnels between there... probably for the better lol
Camberwell and Peckham route was scrapped in favour of Old Kent Road, with two stations between E&C and NXGate. TfLslowly pressing ahead despite funding not being secured. Same goes with DLR branch from Galleons Reach to Thamesmead. Loads of stuff published if you want to explore further.
The add I got on this video was of a man violently rowing his boat across an ocean, and I find that extremely funny for some reason
same
Hey I saw you on Twitter Today.🙄
I got a 5 gum ad
I got 2 ads, one for hair cutting and one for travel
You get /adverts/ ?!
There were plans to split the Northern Line, but this required a new station at Camden Town, as the existing station would be quite inadequate for the number of passengers changing. The plans were put on hold before the pandemic. The Charing Cross branch of the Northern Line is being extended from Kennington to Nine Elms and Battersea Power Station, and this should open late this year. At the moment, all off-peak Charing Cross trains (except Night Tube, when it returns) use the reversing loop south of Kennington. Perhaps some trains will still use it after the extension opens.
It is operated as two separate lines at peak hours anyway, so that doesn't make sense.
love the ms paint videos, the first step in making the world a better place :))
Catching up on my Andrew Andrews videos. Glad to hear you took my framerate suggestion in the last video. ibx2cat replied to that original comment so I wasn't sure if Andrew would hear about it but good to hear the communications department at Toycat Inc. is doing a fine job.
Tries to future proof Heathrow by building the loop near where Terminal 6 might be... Makes same mistake as when they tried to future proof Heathrow by building the loop near where Terminal 5 was going to be.
Thank you Andrew for the insight, I hope Boris listens to this genius
“Those are filthy trams…”
Later: “…create a new tram line…”
Pre-Elizabeth line - but that's why the Central to Ealing B'way is useful. H&Wealdstone is a great place to connect with faster trains to the north and midlands as many national rail services call there. My big scheme would be to connect Uxbridge to Iver - so joining the Met and Lizzy lines. Only 3.5 miles of track and one tunnel needed to make the latter line relevant to N.W. London...which it isn't currently.
That Map is from Before December 2020 as Thameslink and Elizabeth lines are on the Tube map
Did anyone else notice that ibxToycat removed South Wimbledon and Mordern while getting rid of the trams
I did
Don't worry dude, the public transport in Northamptonshire would give u PTSD..... Let's forget London there
I'd imagine Geoff Marshall reacting to this
(Also, Toycat for London Mayor?)
yes
Ironicallt Heathrow was origianlly meant to be future-proofed for a terminal 5. That's why they made it a loop rather than a simple terminus.
And the Northern is operated as two lines during the peak hours - High Barnet (via Charinf Cross) to Kennington; and Edgware (bia Bank) to Morden.
Although awkwardly this makes your names the wrong way round, High Barnet is the further north station and was the branch the Northern City line (from which the name came) would have conmected on to.
Someone proposes for the Bakerloo line to be extended to watford junction every year and it gets rejected every time 🤣
The new Heathrow runway will be going over the M25 to the northwest of the current runways
Andrew: Talks about connecting London.
Richmond Upon Thames, Kingston upon Thames, Hounslow and Wandsworth: Am I a joke to you?
DLR can't extend, because the central part was too much tunnel
102% agree with no more mill hill east, do not agree with nothern/southern or ealing broadway change
I think you've overlooked poor old Thamesmead. I think buying property there might be an investment as it's sure to get links sooner or later.
Toycat plays SimCity, but just the subway bits.
Where i live it takes 1hr to go somewhere 5 miles away via public transport
thank u for connecting leyton, they need one
I love the Bank station on the DLR
If Camberwell was originally planned for the Bakerloo extension, it will be a part of it
I would love to watch your videos on almost any platform that is not on YT. One of my favorite content creator ditched YT for good and is put his videos on Odysee.
i would love Geoff marshal to react to this video and like re do it lol great video tho
me too 🤣🤣
And plus it’s pointless making a tiny Central line extension to the Bethnal green overground I don’t mind them adding Shoreditch High Street As a station but for Bethnal green they could just link the overground and Central line stations with an underground passenger subway
8:56 you should have kept West Acton lol
If i want one change to the transport, increase the 206
Hey Andrew so Crossrail 2 is Opening in 2030 ❤
That map doesn't even show the train lines, with those included too then it's even easier to get around!
“those are filthy trams, we don’t touch those”
accurate
Lol I live in Germany basically the only thing we use over here are trams
@@waveyan i hope your trams a nicer than the london trams... i’ve been using them most of my life and they are gross 80% of the time
Eww public transportation
I don't really know how much nicer, but probably they are. We also still have trams driving around which were built in the 1940s and 1950s for some reason. A lot of them can be dirty though especially if they had a lot of people on or if they are one of the 70 or 60 year old trams I talked about earlier, with all of the stuff from people sitting in them for 70 years now accumulated in the seats.
And cathall Is an estate in Leytonstone
You seem to have got rid of the N Line extension to Battersea Power Station Station. Is this part of your rationalisation of the N Line.
Also, instead of removing MHE, you could just reinstate the line to MH The Hale and Edgware.
i think that when this video was made, battersea power station and nine elms hadn’t opened because i realised that as well but when i searched it up they were added on the tube map later in the year
Why does no one know how poorly Borehamwood is connected
Idea: DLR from Bank to Aldwych and then to Holborn using the old Piccadilly tunnels
Of course, the disused Charing Cross branch of the Jubilee goes as far as Aldwych. Could connect from there to Charing Cross to make a good interchange.
Bit late to the party, but your worst suggestions. Loop and u-shaped lines and routes based on the distorted tube maps. Line that goes to Blackfriars and the Farringdon… Think it’s called Thameslink.
How do you do that?
Give staines a tube station
I live in staines and I want a tube station! there's now at least two of us!!!
Cathall Schmathill!
To perfect the map pf the tube I made a new train line Westminster line Waltham cross enfield wash enfield chase bush hill park firs farm lordship lane noel park crouch end upper holloway highbury and islington angel liverpool street london bridge city thameslink covent garden charing cross westminster hyde park corner marble arch paddington north kensington old oak common lane hanger hill brentham garden castle bar park Willow tree 26 stops using 1996 stock but in 2027 it will come as 2019 stock 15 stops=suburb 11 stops=underground coming every 5-6 min
10new stations along the way
Geoff Marshall would like this
Uh? Northern heights plan?
Im angry that you removed Ealing Broadway. It makes traveling easier for west londoners
NONONO WHY DID YOU REMOVE OLYMPIA OBVIOUSLY IT SHOULD BE ON THE PICCADILLY LINE
what did ealing ever do to you
How do you do that
You should play more mini metro
waiting for fried chicken reviews lol
I would first draw a wall around London so that no Londoners accidentally escape.
Tramlink slander is not tolerated. Unless it’s the rolling stock, then yeah, it sucks
Don't forget ikea!
It's really difficult to see the mouse 🖱
I think the closest I've been to London is the beach in Ocean City, New Jersey. However, this video was still interesting!
I respect your opinion on the Ealing Broadway withdraw I think instead of withdrawing the Ealing Broadway branch I think it should extend to Reading which is where crossrail ends
That a lot more stations for the central line 😅
that was not the 2020 or 2021 tube map because the TfL rail didn't go to Heathrow airport or reading and the bakerloo line is going to Lewisham and to Hayes south east London it go to use the southeastern route to hayes and we need the tramlink
The Southern line is a stupid name because it just makes Balham more confusing
tube map rating 9.3/10
Okay, I don’t live in London, but on visits i’ve tried to go to places in south london, certainly the underground needs improving there. Welldone!
Cathole?
I'm not here for good reasons. I'm here for PWCs on the Thames.
9 3/4 out of 10
Lol i actually love the london underground :\
YOU DELETED SOUTH WIMBLEDON AND MORDEN FROM THE NORTHERN LINE TRYING TO REMOVE THE CROYDON TRAMS
Some of these things are stupid so youd get on the bakerloo east for north Greenwich? Nope youd take the jubilee!
The Docklands Light Railway is a light Metro...it is not a "tram". There is no street running and the trains are driverless.....trams are not driverless.
Trains Station 🚉
I like the no-edit stream of consciousness filming but some things benefit from practising a good few times.
A refreshing no-shame what if, but it was all let down towards the end by the lazy squiggly lines.
Must try harder but thanks all the same.
Trams use electricity not diesel and those stuff so think again
Windsor needs a tube station
I T S C R O S S R A I L
Anyone else think the lip sync is off?
I admire your effort to change the tube but TBH it is deeply flawed. You cannot get rid of the trams, in fact they should be extended, and your last line simply doesn't make sense, in fact my cat can do a better job. I have a vision for tube extensions too and they are far more effective. Also, I will not build Crossrail 2 as Thameslink extensions will be far more effective and certainly more cost effective.
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#canceltrams2021
As a transport consultant this is hilarious, and Ive also done this exericse before and went even crazier than you, Crossrail 3,4,5 and 6
You do know a lot of what you proposed have had outline business cases but just cant get funding
Ok I get to the end and see you just drew Thameslink loooooooooool, please tell me you did that unknowingly
Oops, I do think Thameslink is useful, maybe we need Thameslink 2 right next to it
@@AndrewAnd have a read of the Brighton Main Line 2 programme
Lot of hating on Peckham here
Yes every block of flats, house and shop.should have their own tube station in the basement 😎
Just be grateful it’s not the American public transportation system
Before the Hammersmith extension, circle line trains actually ran in a circle.
I bet toycat won't heart this comment... I mean why would he?
You need to come to East Lancashire and sort out our transit problems, or rather the lack of train services.
Toycat you really need to quit TH-cam and get a Job improving the London Tube!!! :)
I lived in many cities, what stands out to me is that there is no real center. This looks even worse than Berlin.
what app is that
yes
Geoff Marshall would like this