10mm vs .357 Magnum Hornady Critical Duty vs Pork Shoulders
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Today we're comparing 10mm vs. .357 Magnum with Hornady Critical Duty ammunition. Which do you think won?
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Gun sam has a great channel. Awesome guy.
Yep gave me my first shoutout
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A fairer comparison would be some Underwood 140 grainers at 1500 fps.
@Douglas Reed I've done that video
Definitely like the 357. That GP 100 is beautiful, I had a 4" model, such a sweet shooting gun. Thanks for the video!
Thank you for watching. Ruger really did that gun up nice
I carry a Taurus 605 .357 magnum snub nose for EDC. I am absolutely amazed @ the velocity & energy released out of a 2” barrel. I carry the Remington HTP .357 125 grain SJHP for PD. Recoil is not that bad @ 24 ounces weight & I replaced my revolver with bigger Hogue grips & much better recoil & control. Great video!! Subscribed!!!
Thank you.
Now this is the real Super Bowl!!!
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Got to give the edge to 357 Magnum in this one. I really like that GP-100 since you got it back from Ruger! It always seems to put up solid numbers! Great video!
Yep Ruger did me right. Please contact Ruger and let them know you want them to do a special run on these. Tell them you c saw it on Alaskan Ballistics
@@AlaskanBallistics What 10mm load is your go to for personal defense?
Against 2 legged or 4 legged creatures?
2 - Underwood 155gr or 180gr with xtp bullet
4 - 200gr hardcast Underwood
@@AlaskanBallistics Yes I was meaning 2 legged. I also use Underwood hard cast for 4 legged creatures!
I have the same 6" GP100 stainless & I get higher than advertised speeds higher than a relative's S&W 686 + 6" don't know why when they both have 6" barrels.
Only reason to give 10mm the nod is capacity! I carried a .357 wheelgun for 25yrs. Just for 2 leg predators. One of my life's goals is to NEVER become another animals spoor!!
A great goal. Some 10mm bear loads do get better penetration though.
I assume they you are excluding worms. They will have their way with you eventually.
.40 s&w for the hoods and 10mm auto for the woods
You can just carry your 10mm with self-defense ammo. It's loaded light, so you only need 1 gun
love both these cartridge calibers!
Great video...I did not see any mistakes
Thanks Chuck for your great work. A lot of hard work goes into your podcasts that reveals good practical and scientific information to us. Love the revolver. God Bless Dave
thank you Dave! Godspeed and good hunting
6 degrees F!!! Dude, you get kudos from me just for being out in that cold!!!
Thanks. I've got another video at -15°F that was a fun day. Shot my chronograph
Love and respect both rounds and pistol, revolver platforms. Very cool vid !
Thank you sir
Nice weight retention and mushrooming
Yes they did well.
Good results over all. No complaints. Thank you.
Thank you for faithfully watching
Good shit! Very interesting video. I probably would have guessed the .357 had more balls too, but the proof was enlightening. I’d probably still opt for the Glock just because of the faster follow up shots and the 16 rounds on board, but that’s my uneducated opinion. Stay safe up there, Chuck! -OG
In honesty though these were pretty weak 10 mm loads. Some of the previous videos have the 10mm winning handily. Thanks for stopping by!
Thanks , for comparison test . Especially in 6f temps. Gun Sam has good content aswell.
You're welcome Sir. Godspeed and good hunting to you and yours
For all around 10mm> .357mag. 125 vs 135, 158 vs 155/165, 180 vs 200/220 Ill always pick 16rds over 8rds at best.even with a bit less power it evens out with more rounds in my mind.
Couldn't agree more
I bought the same 6" Ruger GP100 stainless 5 years ago because of the lightning speed velocities & impressive energies achieved through the longer barrel. With 125 grain loads I clock them in at close to 1,600 fps & 158 grain at 1,350+ fps.
Awesome. Can't wait to load my 158gr from ckbcastbullets
@@AlaskanBallistics
I've tried the Remington HTP 125 grain on a few coyotes & the results were messy 🩸🩸🩸 that round is the most notorious man stopper. With that one I got 1,628 average fps advertised is 1,450 but I'm guessing that's from a 4" barrel.
@perceptionvsreality3333 nice!
The Critical Duty is designed to be barrier blind. It would be neat to see the results after passing through glass or drywall.
Good idea
I'm getting better velocity out of my 5" 357 SIG with Underwood 125gr Gold Dots. I blame all the people, who for years complained about how "snappy" 40 S&W is.
Cool. What .357 sig do you have?
@@AlaskanBallistics Springfield Xd Tactical.
Lmao snappy
As always that revolver is eye candy Chuck. The 357 Hornady ammo looks quite fine too. I like the idea of an 357 performance, but it's interesting to consider low powered 38spl for smaller game. That versatility gets me
From a G20 Win Silvertips have tested out nearly the same 175gr @ 1,175 fps
They work great
I only wish I had some to test Dan
Consider Winchester Defenders instead of Silvertips. Seem to have a little more oomph.
Either fine. Like the 10 now mostly when out and about in bear woods.
Agreed
speed matters, but so does size(especially diameter) and weight!, it is a balance of all 3
I just today picked up a box of this ammo for my Python can’t wait to try it out! 👍
Hope it does well!
I think the 357 magnum won. I love the 357 for hunting and protection, but I have to hand it to the 10mm because it has 15 rounds and one in the chamber.
Oh in this episode 357 magnum definitely won. The other 3 episodes were kind of iffy and the 10mm won the penetration
That’s was cool to watch. I was actually surprised the .357 outperformed the 10mm.
Thank you. Usually the 10mm does a little better. Go check out the other 3 videos in this series. The hardcast are really fun
@@AlaskanBallistics I will. I’ve been watching a ton of 10mm videos because I plan on buying one. Im trying to chose between the Glock 40 and the M&P 2.0. I’m primarily using it for hiking around the Appalachians.
I'm partial to the g40.
@@AlaskanBallistics lol. That’s were I’m leaning actually.
Can be serious issues in the m&p feeding heavy loads
Chuck, Good Video. I do carry Critical Duty in my CC. But for hunting, I like Buffalo Bore and Underwood.
Agreed
Awesome test my brother. 357mag one that . As 10mm bullet suprized they load same bullet in their 40s&w critical duty ammo also . I got the 40s&w critical duty 175gr load in my ruger sr40c. Shoot realy well out of it not to snappy like some stuff.
Yeah i might pull a few and reload them myself with a faster powder charge
@@AlaskanBallistics that sounds awesome! I had talked to a deputy a few years ago, he loaded his own with the Hornady in .45 then in 9mm.
I think they would hold up pretty well or should I say perform well at higher velocities.
I’d give the edge to the.357 in this instance. Probably be even better if the .357’s were 140 grain, giving them the same sectional density as the 175 10mm.
Agreed
A .357 mag with a 158 gr hp, loaded to pre 1988 Speer data with H110, gives me 1363 fps out of my 6" GP100, giving up just over 650 ft lbs of energy. Bullet is also Speer JHP, not a Gold Dot. Retained weight is 136.3 grains. Pure hell on earth to 300+ lb wild pigs
That sounds like a pretty good load.
@@AlaskanBallistics it absolutely is. You cant get TRUE .357 mag performance unless you use the pre 1988 data for it, bc SAAMI (at the request of Sissy & Whining) lowered the pressure limit from 41,000 cup down to 35,000 cup bc of that candyassed model 19 (yes, I said it, and will again) couldnt handle full house .357 loads without beating it to death. So instead of retooling their gun, they whined to SAAMI and got their participation trophy. The modern load data is almost two full grains LESS than the data before 1988, and therein lies the difference.
So buffalo bore stuff is in line with the older pre 1988 stuff?
Good video. Nice comparison. Thanks for sharing. Take care.
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I wouldn't complain about using either by any means. I've got a good amount of the 9mm critical duty on hand as somewhat of a backup although I don't carry any of it in my pistols. Great video as always Chuck!
I understand that you gotta stock what you can these days
Even in 9 mm not a bad wilderness defense pistol in the Eastern half of the United States
@Alaskan Ballistics where I'm living we've got cows, coyotes and a very rare cougar now and then. Never heard of anyone having to shoot a cow out here so 9 should handle the rest just fine lol
Agreed.
I'm a 10mm, 45 acp guy but also have a 9mm for my wife and the critical duty 135 grain are no joke whatsoever! They do some damage that's all I let her carry
Trusting / believing Hornady is like trusting an American Politician
That's harsh but I understand where you're coming from
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Agreed! Hence why these are backups to the .45-70
it seems like all ammo brands load .357 magnum faster than they say and do the exact opposite with the 10mm auto, it is really frustrating
I've had some 10mm be faster
Sweet looking gp 100
Thank you. I've done a whole video on it. It's nice family heirloom now
Stay warm. Filming that video was commitment
Very much otherwise I wouldn't have content lol
Horn. Crit. Duty is designed to do well as duty ammo and all the FBI Protocol ammo tests & get 12-18” penetration. These are not ideal for bear ammo. Not designed for that. Thanks for doing the test though!👍🏻
The test wasn't designed for bear defense. I put a much harder barrier for that.
I use Critical Defense ammo especially is 380 and 9mm!! I like it in others. Great, realistic test!!!!
Thank you. Godspeed. Hope you never has to use it.
The correct legal and scientific way to measure barrel length is between breech and muzzle. Because of tradition black magic and voodoo revolver barrel length as commonly expressed ignores this and counts only the rifling. Therefore in order to get a usable comparison you need to add or subtract the Proximal 2" + or - length of the revolvers cylinder when comparing pistols and revolvers barrel lengths. Things can be further skewed by the fact that there are far more So called 4-in barrel revolvers than 6" barreled pistols.
I agree with that, though I'd call it calculating the "total powder burn area" on a revolver
The 10mm seemed to hit harder even if the 357 went a hair deeper
Maybe don't know how that is with less energy and penetration.
@@AlaskanBallistics They put me on a time out BTW I didn't post that here & never did any links .... what I wanted to say here is the jugs seemed to fly faster with the 10mm
Weird... thank you for letting me know.
Maybe because the 10mm is wider & heavier?
357mg hits harder and more powerful regardless
Fun looking test I will still go with a 10mm I suck at double action shooting
You and me both my friend!
Another great video. Thanks.
Thank you for watching!
Great video! And that cerakote Ruger is a beauty. I was surprised to see that KKM barrel offered a bit higher velocity than stock. I thought regular rifling was only better than polygonal with hardcast bullets, not regular. Interesting.
The longer barrel, combined with tougher lock up makes a big difference
@@AlaskanBallistics oh sorry, i didn't realize kkm barrel was longer than stock. I am just thinking of buying an aftermarket barrel for my G20 but the only option i can get is IGB.
The kkm is great but 10weeks back ordered right now
As always great videos from you. I’ve always been a huge fan of testing on pork shoulders. I’m hopefully going to be doing some testing soon with my s&w model 25 45 colt on pork shoulders using hard cast handloads.
Nice! Thank you
Let's just call this "Battle of the eunuchs." Both calibers have been castrated.
Kinda like having a race where both cars had 2 sparkplug wires pulled.
A fair point. Thought about pulli g the 10mm's bummer and putting a real powder charge behind it to get it going 1300 from a 6 inch barrel
@@AlaskanBallistics
I did that with some 40S&W SXTs...
Got great results!
I may have to bust out the puller bump up some of the anemic offerings.
@CrawldaBeast nice
Hornady Critical Duty still isn't a full 10mm load. That being said you can handload 357 magnum cartridge more than a 10 mm cartridge. Although I like the 357 magnum, would choose the 10mm because of more capacity and easier to reload. Try reloading a revolver at -10 F.
A fair point. I've been thinking about pulling the 10mm and losing them properly
both great calibers, but might lean towards the high cap 10mm.
Agreed
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Awesome video, babe
You're awesome
I want to use that 357 mag load in my rifle for deer, but can’t find it anywhere.
If i could send you the box I would. But you wouldn't have enough left to sight in. If i find another box, and you don't mind paying me for it. I could pull the bullets where you could handload them. Sad that were resorting to such methods today lol.
Put a product notifications arrival in at several websites
@@AlaskanBallistics thanks dude… but I’m good. I will find it some day…
RE 9mm 16" hand loads I did a test to see how deep max loads were in 9mm with blue dot & power Pistol ... with bl dot they would be compressed as much as I think is workable . With Pwr Pist only a TINY bit compressed , I like that better . The other choice between the 2 in speed is Herco , ( I don't have any ) that looked to be a great choice in that max loads are low PSI Vs Pow Pist >> near max PSI . . & low weight = likely not compressed & more room for heavy bullets , I want to go with 124 or 147 JHPs if possible . MAX for Power Pist = 1,095 fps with 147gr XTP & 1,175 with 124gr JHP +/- in a 4" barrel . bl dot = 1,050 fps in 4" with 147gr XTP & 1,150 with a 124gr jhp +/- from all my testing with 44 sp I am 100% sure the Bl dot would do much more Vel in a 16" brl . I could try some 115 gr , not sure that is a good idea ?? they may blow up .
Cool let me know how that turns out.
Lucky Gunner got at least 150 fps more with 124gr +P gold dot they didn't test any lower weight ammo . just 147 & 124gr
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I have no problem with the 10mm if I can find it but yes for my idea work horse round is the 150 gr jhp from Underwood
As far as it being weak 10mm that's one reason I'm a cult follower of the cartridge because rather it weak or hot rodded most cant go wrong and even with the 10mm federal hydrashok which is definately FBI light 10mm it is very strong in my independent testing of it
Also of you get a chance please test the federal hydrashok 10mm
Nice do you have your results posted somewhere?
@@AlaskanBallistics sorry I did that a few years ago for my own fun which is why I think it would be a good test for your videos
Yeah if I find the ammo.
I feel it is close to call. Energy was closer than I thought on both.
Yeah sometimes the 10mm eeks it out, but I've got to give this episode to the .357
@@AlaskanBallistics it is settled in just gna load that round in both 🤣🤣💯.
Not sure if you do something to remedy it but it's worth noting that maybe the numbers are low sometimes because it generally looks freezing cold in these videos. Maybe you keep them warm in the truck for that reason I don't know
I try to do that
I like 10mm but my new M&P Smith 10mm is just a little bit much to carry. So my new Shadow Systems MR920 is in the mail. Also love the .357, just wish someone had a high cap auto.
Yeah that's probably a near impossible engineering problem for the .357mag nigh cap auto
Have you tried the Underwood 135 gr 10mm? It looks pretty hot.
Yes i have a video. Will rip open with shallow penetration
keep up the good work
Thank you brother
Duty ammo isn't the most powerful ammo on the market , both will get the job done !
No. I've been thinking about pulling some hornady critical duty and loading them at proper 10mm speeds
Great job on the video brother. I do a lot of 10mm too👍🏽
Thank you very much!!
I’m in Arizona. It looks kind of cold there. 🤠
There's just a slight chill in the air. A tad bit nippy 🤪🤔😜
I dont think you can go wrong with either choice.
I use this or gold dot in my ruger lcr backup pistol.
Gold Dots are also good rounds
@@AlaskanBallistics I have a question for the poster. Which is better in interpersonal combat, Hornady critical defense or critical duty?
Depends on how thick their clothing is and if you have short barrel or long barrel guns. The critical duty doesn't expand as well in short barrels.
Short answer Underwood xtreme defenders.
@@AlaskanBallistics In terms of power, it's about the same as the Buffalo bore tactical short barrel lower recoil low flash.357 magnum.
10mm for me because of the higher capacity with semi-automatics, I have a Smith&wesson 686-6 in .357 and a Smith&wesson M&P 2.00 in 10mm
Carry both lol... thanks for watching and the comments. How does your Smith and Wesson feed heavier loads?
@@AlaskanBallistics just fine I have Underwood extreme penetrator +p and runs no different that and things else, just got the M&P so have had the time/money to get different ammo to see how it handles the reality hot stuff yet
Just imagine, a 357 Sig v the same 10mm ammo next?
When are you going to buy me a G35 with A 357 sig 6 and a 1/2 inch conversion barrel?
@@AlaskanBallistics yes?
As soon as you buy me that, or buy one for yourself, sure we'll do that video.
Man I have a bronze wrangler that 44 is beautiful!!
Meant 357
Encourage ruger to offer it and tell you saw it on Alaskan Ballistics
@@AlaskanBallistics I wonder if they'd do that to a Super Redhawk?
Probably. Call their revolver service center, ask for Brian
Love 357 but lot more rounds on the 10mm
Carry both
A+++ Sir
Thank you! Godspeed and good hunting!
I dont use hornady handgun ammo they are always way under powered compared to other manufactors but atleast they are reliable but then again so are are other manufactors. Do kkm barells have fully supported chambers?
Yes kkm barrels
Yeah, not one of my better purchases. The bullet design just isn't there. However, I hit targets at 40-50 yards through the 6" kkm barrel. It may be a decent hunting load.
It might be
10mm.❤
Hornaday never fails to let me down
I understand where you're coming from. At least their xtp is a good bullet and you can handload them. Video coming out in the next few weeks.
That seems to be very mild 10mm. With the 175gr (Especially out of the 6" barrel ) should be 1300fps minimum.
Totally agreed. Thanks for watching and the comment. Godspeed and good hunting
Compare some 9x25-dillon to .357 magnum. That is the true semi auto .357mag
Got a barrel for me to use? And brass and dies?
I know .357 Magnum's ✔. But I'm curious about the 10mm. Depending on the situation I'd probably go with a .357 Magnum 💯. It definitely wins this contest ✔
That it does, but I've got other videos it has lost
@@AlaskanBallistics To the 10mm❓
Yep
This is video 4 in this series
@@AlaskanBallistics I think I saw them...
I owned a 10mm first and I loved it to me it kicked less than a 45 but was way more power with a flatter trajectory
But the cons were I could never find ammo and when I did it was just a hot 40 cal not a true 10mm so I ended up selling it and I got a 357 mag
Now with the 357 mag I got a 4 inch Taurus with 7 shot cylinder and I got about the same performance as the 10mm with cheaper price ammo and more full power loads were available with the reliability of a revolver . Yes 7 shots is less than 15+1 but I don't plan on unloading 15 rounds in a self defense situation and I seem to be able to reach out further with the 357 if I absolutely needed too and for home defense I load 38s
It just has so many options for me but I'd still take a 10mm in a heart beat
But the Taurus will break under full house loads. Hell it's a Taurus it'll probably break anyway.
I'm surprised you don't have the same problem with 357. Probably loaded hotter just because the revolver is a far stronger platform.
I have zero problems with my modern Taurus tracker revolvers. Just not very refined compared to my colts, smiths, or even rugers.
I'll take the 15+1
Me too
10mm has more use than the 357
Maybe so
I think for the critical duty 357 definitly did it
Agreed. Thanks for watching and the comment. Godspeed and good hunting
10mm FBI Lite? What's the point?
Agreed... still penetrated well and I wouldn't want to be hit with it.
The 357 penetrated 4 water jugs. Subtract 4 from the total number of penetrated jugs in the pile. The remainder is the number of jugs the 10mm penetrated.
Ummm i reset the test after each one. And had another test before this one... so you can clearly see in the slower footage it was 3 jugs
@@AlaskanBallistics OK, good to know, thanks. The 10mm still wins in my mind due to the false sense of security it affords with nearly 3 times the ammo capacity. Although either cartridge is more than adequate for a lights out point blank brain shot on any size bear.
I wouldn't consider this bear ammo
@@AlaskanBallistics neither would I but no doubt both are capable of penetrating any bears skull at close range causing instant lights out.
Agreed
The 10mm won again and always will (15 round capacity). Less power but much more firepower.
In terms of this ammunition it lost , hornady needs to load this to 10mm standards
357 definitely did better 👍🏻🇺🇸
So far on the 4 episodes it's 1.5 to th 10mm's 2.5
Love your channel!
Being that a handloaded 357 magnum has a bit more velocity than the 10mm would you use it for bear protection?
Honestly I've never hand loaded .357 mag.
The buffalo bore loads in .357 mag are enough for me. Check out that video.
To be honest, I don't want to be hit with either one of these rounds. They are both very good. My choice is the .357Mag.
Good choice have fun
That .357 is some pretty weak stuff compared to my.357 Sig 147 grn @ 1300fps out of a 4” barrel Glock 32
I'm going to have to test more .357 sig. Will have to find a barrel for my sig p239 40. Let me know if you've seen one.
@@AlaskanBallistics Try it i love the Sig round. It replaced 10mm for me, better penetration and more reliable in my testing, smaller size frame. G31 is my woods carry gun loaded with 150 grn Hardcast @1350 fps.
What do you think about it for grizzly bears?
@@AlaskanBallistics I know right! Well the way I look at it is most pistol calibers pretty much suck but between the 10mm and .357 I’ve seen it out perform in penetration testing. For black bear and Montana Griz I’m comfortable with it. But with Alaskan browns I’m taking my 454 wit 360grn slugs.
@@AlaskanBallistics on a side not depending on how deep into Montana wilderness I go I usually take the Ruger Alaskan but most hikes I’ll take the G31. I can accurately get 2 maybe 3 shots with the.454 but the g31 can get 7-8 shots pretty fast.
Thanks for your effort but no real gun or caliber should use Hornady ammo for a test or comparison. However I know the good stuff is hard to get at the present time.
I've got buffalo bore, Underwood, and otherstuff on the channel already
Really nice comparison between the two rounds. 👍 Question: I'm not familiar with hunting etc. Why do hunters consider the 10mm best for backup for bear hunting? Different load etc?
Most can shoot it now accurately and in my bear loads comparisons it can out perform. 357 with 16rds of out performing.
Doesn't compare with .44 magnum but neither generate the 16000 ft lbs an 800 lb bear traveling at 25mph generates (a small and slow bear like my football coach called me). Basically what can you shoot better if you've been training with 9 or 45 most of your life?
@@AlaskanBallistics Thanks for the information. 👍
You're welcome.
@@KeanonGilliamSlang369 and don’t forget that when your heart is thumping behind your eyeballs because 700+lbs of angry fur-nuke is barreling at you at a rate of 2-steps per trigger pull, having 15+1 rounds of 10mm is going to be very helpful vs. 5-6 rounds of just about anything.
@@jutde Point taken! 👍
I just don't see the point of 357 for a woods gun. Lacks the power of 44 and above and the shoot ability and reloadability of 10mm. I say this as a guy who sold an LCR in 357 in exchange for an xdm in 10mm when I moved back to woods where that kinda thing matters. I also have a 6" GP100.
16 rounds + 15 rounds of 10mm in a mag that I can change out in less than a half second is better imo than 6 rounds of 357. You could rack off an additional _twenty five_ rounds before you had a speedloader unlocked in the cylinder.
Totally agree 👍
Godspeed and good hunting!
@@AlaskanBallistics thank you sir! Missed elk Season last year, so the itch is strong!
On another note, have you done any hunting with your 10? I'm seriously thinking about trying for a handgun whitetail.
I don't purposely hunt with my 10mm no. Would like to hunt short range whitetail with it though.
@@AlaskanBallistics that's my plan
Let me know and I'll come with you!
I’m probably going to sound dumb but am I able to run my chronograph without the top pieces?
When it's not too bright to need then
@@AlaskanBallistics thanks
You're welcome.
357 is da best man…of course my opinion…no hate…
It certainly won this round. I love what ruger did with my gp100
Nothing will know the difference
Most likely
That 10mm is pretty much .40sw.... real 10mm 180 grain should be clocking atleast 1300 fps out of a 5 inch barrel
Or at least 1250... but yeah it was weaker.
Not at all, 40s&w on average 180 grain 40s&w is at 1,000 fps 400 ft/lbs & this 10mm load is way hotter than that.
Hey Chuck, if you had to choose one out of all of the ammo you have reviewed and tested, what is the best 10mm carry ammo?
Woods or defense?
200gr hardcast for woods 180gr xtp for defense
@@AlaskanBallistics From my own research I would have to agree, just wanted to hear your thoughts! Great video as always 👍🏻
155gr xtp isn't bad either, but may fragment from longer barrels
That is slow 🐌 for 135 grain, 357magnum is just a tad more powerful. Only holds 2 more grains of powder. 357magnum has better sectional density. For a fair comparison you should use 180 gr 357 load fun review though.
I've got videos with 180gr .357 vs 10mm. Check out the whole playlist of 10mm vs 357
No 10mm always wins !
Lol not this time
357 all the way
Yeah it won this contest. But we'll see about the next one. I'd still rather have 16rds in my 10mm.
Thanks for watching. Godspeed!
@@AlaskanBallistics that’s the only draw back, I’m looking to get a 686 plus or 627 8rnd
Nice 👌 great firearms.
.357 is a great choice for almost anything, it's too bad that so much of the 10 mm ammo is closer to .40, the classic 10mm loading of 180 grain @ 1500 fps would have been interesting to see.
This Hornady 10mm load will not be in my ammo box.
180gr was never 1500, it was closer to 1300. I might pull the bullets and load them up hot
@@AlaskanBallistics I have always been under the impression that the original loading for 10mm was 180 grain bullet at 1500 fps, like a lot of the Underwood loadings.
So much 10mm out there now mimics .40 cal.
@@AlaskanBallistics After looking around a bit you are correct!
Thanks for the heads up and your excellent videos!
Thank you brother.
Yeah to get 1500 fps you've got to be in a 155gr or less...
They aren't bonded at all
thank you
357 load is loaded pretty light. The 10mm load is ridiculously slow. performance......ok I suppose but not great. In the barrel lengths used the 357 load should be loaded to achieve 1500 fps and the 10mm should be able to achieve 1300.
The 10mm shouldn't get 1500 in that barrel length. 1300, sure. 1500 that's exceeding all max pressures for a 175gr. If I find another box of these i should pull the bullets and handload them.
@@AlaskanBallistics I think you misunderstood my comment. The 357 load should do 1500 in this barrel length and the 10mm should do 1300. Yes, that would be a cool video
Ah yes. Sorry. Thank you
@@AlaskanBallistics No problem. You're going the extra mile bringing us videos in snowshoe weather for God's sake. Very cold here too today. It was -15 in my part of WI this morning. Gonna have a high of +12 then back to -13 tonight
With the wind and more humidity y'all have, that's really cold
Any ideal why springfield brought out 2 awesome 10mm pistols then turned around and discontinued them? The 4.5 and 5.3 xdms?
Nope
1 load compared to 1 other load says nothing about the cartridges in general.
That's why we plan on doing multiple videos. What other loads would you like to see?
@@AlaskanBallistics I watch most of your stuff. My comment was directed toward the " x cartridge" fan boys.
I'd like to see Glock 29 vs 4" .357 using the "best bear-stopping" loads available on the market.
When I get access to a 4" revolver, we'll take a look at that.
@@AlaskanBallistics Excellent. Not that I'd depend on any (easily portable) handgun for bear defense. BUT...
Agreed... I plan on ordering a 4" kkm barrel for the g29 when fiscally possible, so share this video a bunch lol