Line Input for Wireless Go II | 3 SAFE ways to connect into the mic input.
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- Imagine being able to wirelessly send a direct feed to your DSLR or mobile phone from the audio desk. In this video I will show you how to do it safely using the TAPE OUT, XLR balanced line output and the AUX SEND output for more control.
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Chapters:
0:26 - Connecting to a microphone input
0:58 - Simple Method: Using an attenuator cable and adaptor
2:36 - Connecting to the XLR line output
3:42 - Connecting to the auxiliary output
5:32 - Setting up the receivers output gain
5:54 - Setting up your cameras audio gain
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FINALLY! I've been looking for a solution like this for ages...NOONE is talking about this in the videography business, thank you sir 🤗
Great to hear the video was helpful. I’m glad it filled a gap in the millions of videos out there.
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Now I have the things I need to get to make this work correctly. Yes.
This is incredible content and perfect for creators like us that focus on live events! This is going to be a game changer for shooting DJ sets going forward for me, thanks!
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With this video YOU SAVED ME! My event is tomorrow, so thank you very much for this video!
Awesome Ale, glad the video was helpful.
I've been looking for this for 6 months , thank God
Same here bud. Glad we found it
The first method works like a charm 👍🏻 I even use it for livestreams
Super helpful!! Exactly what I was looking for :)
Great to hear thanks.
Thanks Gary. This is so useful
Thnx been looking for this setup for a while
Very clear and understandable video. I use an audio recorder, such as a Zoom F6 or a Sound Devices MixPre. There are many others. These can output a level adjustable feed, which is usually marked as "camera out". Then use a 3.5mm male to male cable. Your solution is perfect for users of mixing desks.
That’s a great option, thanks for sharing the tech tip. I appreciate it RemekTek Media.
Cricky! I was thinking the other day on behalf of a charity I help "how to connect my yamaha mixer to my phone via a Radial DI box". Thanks for the advice to consider an Attenuator cable.
You saved me quite an embarrassment 🙏
That’s great to here the video was helpful. Thanks for letting me know Bansi Dave.
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This video is pure gold, I was about to plug my Rodelink into a soundboard with no attenuator
Thank you! This works perfectly!
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Good to hear the video was what you needed.
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Thank You so much for this video. 🙏
I'm happy the video was helpful to you. Thanks for letting me know.
Estábamos buscando esta respuesta hace meses, muchas gracias Gary!
Thanks for the helpful video.
I’m glad the video was of help Alex. Thanks for commenting. I appreciate it.
Great video! 😉 Thank you! 👍😁
Great video! Thanks for the info.
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DI boxes are great! I use them for all sorts of things! 😎
I can only agree Michael. They are so versatile.
Very good exceplination thank you very much
I appreciate your feedback Basma.
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Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it
Thank you very much sir ❤
Very very helpful! ;)
Some great insight there. 👍. Hope this works with other transmitters-receivers models, like the wireless MPH 05 that don't seem to have adjustable decibel level switch.
Matata, the principles in this video will work with all transmitters with a mic input.
Thank you very much 😁
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Glad to hear the video was helpful. Thanks for the feedback.
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Very nicely explained and filmed! The only thing I would like to suggest is using a DI box with that can take an XLR in on the _instrument_ / _line_ side (such as a Radial ProAV1) so that you get a +4dBu line level to 600Ohm balanced mic level _in_ _the_ _DI_ _box_ , and then adapting the XLR microphone output with a special unbalanced cable to a 3.5mm TRS plug for the RØDE Wireless Go transmitter. That way you don't risk using the DI box as a step-up transformer which can happen if you use it as you did in one of your examples (3:09) with a mixer _output_ to DI _output_ connection. Using a DI box backwards like that is not recommendable in my opinion.
Thanks Grave Notes for sharing your experience and comments. I really appreciate it.
Would it be ok with a -25db Attenuator cable and rca??
Not exactly sure what scenario you "it" refers to, so I'll just reiterate my advice not to use a DI box backwards. There are devices that are designed to take line level down to microphone level, such as the Radial Engineering ProAV1, which would always be my preference. If cost or other constraints are forcing you to improvise, you really need more than 25dB to attenuation to get comfortably down to microphone level (50dB would bring 2V down to about 6mV, which is still a stronger signal than most dynamic microphones will give you).
@@gracenotes5379 "it" referring to the wireless go mate. rode mic go + attenuator cable plus rca connected to the sound mixer. So not even the -35gb cable this guy recommend wouldn't work well? cant spent that much more on the other solutions.
Well, it might work. Just saying the 25dB you quoted would take a 2V line level signal down to 112mV which is way hotter than any microphone will put out. If the attenuator is the *only* thing between your line level signal and a microphone preamp, I'd want to make sure to get down below 10mV, which is 46dB below 2V. I'm not saying other values categorically won't work.
Been looking everywhere on TH-cam for this! Thank you. For method 2, can you hook into the back of a speaker as well?
Great to hear. From the back of a speaker you would need to reduce the power even more. Use this one to get the output back to line level. geni.us/Kicker_Speaker-to-RCA
Bagus sekali, thank You
I might add for inexperienced & potentially excited enthusiasts who may seek to export some these techniques to other applications , it should be noted for beginners that using the passive DI box backwards, as is done here, turns a low impedance line signal into a ‘Hot’ amplified signal (the reverse of what a DI box is typically designed for) - Don’t reverse a DI box without due consideration and precaution. 😊
Additionally, of the three methods described here, people might be interested in learning how to get the best quality audio from a venue mixer / sound system.
Unfortunately budget (cheap) DI Boxes have poor quality transformers- they will degrade sound quality. If you we’re prepared to spend extra, you could get a DI specifically designed for the purpose of taking audio ‘out’ (and not using a guitar/keyboard DI box backwards)
Unfortunately, a high quality transformer DI can run into hundreds of dollars for something that will preserve HQ sound.
In the scenario featured in this TH-cam, a DI box is completely unnecessary unless a very long cable run from the transmitter to the mixing desk is required.
The alternate option suggested here is an ‘RCA’ cable mated to a TRS ‘Line’ attenuated cable - RCA & LINE outputs host different electrical metrics which presents impedance mis-match issues when simply adapted in this way - the difference between JACK LINE & RCA is more than the shape of plugs and sockets and ideally would be first electrically converted to one standard or the other for best audio.
Of the three suggested connectivity tips, and options are not limited (as they sometimes can be with venue systems) and High fidelity sound is the goal, then the preferred option for ‘best quality audio’ is to take audio from the mixers TRS or XLR line outs (called Monitor, AUX , Aux (mono)send etc) directly connected to the attenuation cable., which incidentally is actually what this cable is made for - no other devices required. You could of course take either of the mixers Left or Right main OUTPUTS via attenuation cable, however audio would only be mono, but fine for centred vocals.
All this advice is subject to recommendations from respective Brand names - not all these Camera transmitter s / receiver s operate technically identically - check with manufacturer first. Just because something works a few times, does not mean it is safe for the indefinite duration- slowly occurring damage can be resulting.
thank you for the in depth video! i recently bought the Xenyx X1222USB and my need is to connect 6 mics to it. it could be 6 XLR lav mics to start with, but as i now collect info on how to make it a wireless solution, ive encountered problems in process of thoughts. also, i saw there is a "wireless ME" by now which happens to be a bit more affordable. anyway, as every receiver can connect 2 transmitters, i wonder if there is a way to have 3 receivers connected to the mixer simultaneously. the scenario is 6 ppl at a table talking (podcast/just chatting), recording with pc/laptop in OBS studio (so the usb connection of x1222USB is crucial, i reckon).
Thanks for sharing this tip sir. I just subscribe to your channel.
was about to fry my GO II. thanks for video!
waoo good mixser
Thanks Gary! This is very helpful. One thing that I don't understand is that why do you not need a DI box for method 1? For method 2 and 3, you seem to be using both a DI box and a attenuation cable to reduce the power.
The output of those two RCA jacks is very small in comparison.
@@GaryDmedia Thanks! I see. Is RCA's output generally lower than 6.5mm, or is it due to the nature of the tape output?
The RCA tape outputs output no more than 0.5v. The output of the Main XLR outputs are 1volt or sometimes more. It is always good to check the specifications for your mixer and you will find some 6.5mm outputs are the same as the XLR outputs.
@@GaryDmedia I see. This makes a lot of sense. Thank you!
Actually, for references purpose:
RCA out is categorised as -10dBV (Semi-pro equipment) with ~ 0.316volts
XLR/TRS outputs are categorised as +4dBu (Pro equipment) with ~ 1.228volts
Both are LINE level outputs and are equally hot at ~1volt range.
A MIC level is to expecting anywhere from 0.001volt to 0.01volt only.
Very nice. you sir know more than the videographers and cinematographers on several prominent facebook groups apparently. I'm guessing that this method also works with other lapel mic systems like the zoom f2 and tascam dr-10L
Yes it does. Any recorder with a 3.5mm mic input. Some inputs on recorders can be adjusted to a line input in the settings and this gives you a little more adjustment Eric.
@@GaryDmedia awesome! Thx Gary
First method seems applicable yet cheap.
By the way, the DI Box with reversed input shocks me that it works.
Yes , amazing. These basic DI boxes are very versatile. Even the user guide for this model illustrated how to do it.
Great video!!! I have a 1/4 to XLR Cable. I have connected that cable setup to the Tascam DR40X. My question is would you recommend this or will the 1/4th make the Rode Go 3.5mm jack loose or damage it? I am looking for the best solution without hurting my gear. I did see the Rode XLR PRO +. Let me know your thoughts.
Thanks for a video! One more questions do i need additional gear if i’m connecting wireless go mic to the mixer headphones output
Why bothering with special attenuator cables instead of using the 'PAD' setting in the TX settings? I guess that's supposed to do exactly that - attenuating :). I doubt you'll damage the input with a standard line out, even if the level would be too high.
But I have to say, ANY video on that matter is helpful, since RODE really fails completely on instructions and a proper manual for that thing. No pinouts, no exact technical data, let alone alot of 'hidden features' nowhere mentioned. So thanks for the video!
Thank you! This is what I was looking for.
I do have a question though....if I'm risking not using the attenuation lead and instead relying on my Di box for this, should I set the attenuation on the box for more than -20db?
Andy I would be setting it to the highest. -40dB if possible.
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2:50 What is the purpose of using an additional "step-down" cable with DI box, when DI box do it?
Awesome. I have a quick question. The reversed way works too, right? i.e. a feed from "Wireless Go II" to the audio desk.
Thank you so much dear. Please guide me : Is there a way to connect a Wireless Lavalier Microphones to a Audio Amplifier without a separate receiver for itself to connect with the amplifier , (like people connect it with a mobile and make TH-cam videos etc.?) But this is for public address in an auditorium.
I don't use a mixer but my theory is this would work the same if I wanted to connect via audio interface but just using one of my XLR outputs on the interface with the same connections. That way I can use plug-ins to shape the sound coming from my microphone in real time instead of post production. Has anyone tested this as well?
This is great!!! I have a question can you use with a Phone instead of a Actual Camera??
Yes definitely. The Wireless Go II receiver plugs into a phone via digital or analog connection.
Thank you Gary. This is very helpful.
Will the camera have to record to receive the clean audio from the mixer or would it work without.
Just wondering if you mean, can you record straight to the transmitter? Yes you could.
@@GaryDmedia That's what I meant :) Thank you Gary.
Do I need the attenuator cable if I am connecting the TX from my monitor output that has a control?
This is exactly what I wanted to do - sending audio signal from the Yamaha AG06 mixer to iPhone which is used to video my live singing. Option 1 that you mentioned is what I intend to do but wondering if the audio signal sending out from the mixer to the iPhone via the Rode Wireless GO II device stereo or mono. Thanks.
Bluejay, it is only a single channel. Mono. You would need both transmitters to send stereo.
@@GaryDmedia Many thanks for your swift reply. So I need to change to split mode on the receiver to get stereo output from the 2 transmitters. Any idea about the stereo quality and the connection stability (within 150m line of sight radius) provided by the Rode Wireless II device?
150m is within the specified distance but for units of this standard you may be better using more professional equipment. Even so, testing before any event would be advisable.
@@GaryDmedia I see. Thank you for the details😁
Awesome video!!! I just have a question since is a mic transmitter. The audio is mono right?
Correct Cristian, it will be a single channel to the receiver.
@@GaryDmedia thank you so much...
Hello Gary. I have rode wireless pro. Will I have to do the same? Cause the new model can attenuate the volume of the transmitter. Thank you and please let me know 😊
Hi! I can se the Rode to receive a stereo sounds and not mono? I try, but the sound capture is mono..
Hello. Can I connect speakers in the output of the mixer for live broadcasting on stage? (the distance is not far) Thanks
Can we use zoom audio recorder like h5/h6 with ability to reduce line output gain to output mixer line out to phone for phone call? No need of di box or attenuated cables? What do you say? I don't want to fry the phone...😅
Can you do the first connection using the monitor outputs?
Hello, I have a soundcraft ui24r, how can I use the wireless go2 to be able to listen to all the channels in my streaming that I do with a Yolobox and perhaps equalize each one separately if possible.
Thank you in advance
Do I need the attuneator cable if connecting the Transmitter to the monitor output, which has a control knob?
Hi! I have a sonny rx100 , is possible to connect it to the mixer for audio.
Can you make a tutorial of this to an iPhone live video.
Thanks for the great video! I just have two questions.
1. I am finding it hard to find the attenuator cables where I live but DI boxes are everywhere. If I have a DI-box with -40dB attenuation, can I skip the 35dB attenuator cable? I am guessing it is less attenuation that your setup with -20bB on the DI-box and -35 on the cable.
2. I notice in most videos about DI boxes, the instrument is plugged into the DI box's input and the DI box's output is plugged to the mixer's input. How come in this application, the source (the mixer) is going into the output on the DI box and the recorder (the Rode Wireless Go Transmitter) is connected to the input on the DI box? Does the DI box work in both directions?
Thanks again for all the help!
Yes you can illuminate the attenuator cable if you use the -40dB on the di box.
Yes you can use these simple di boxes in both directions.
@@GaryDmedia Thank you so much for everything! Keep up the great videos!
Would it be ok to connected the wireless go with a -25db Attenuator cable??
so that means no need to have seperate audio and video file as mixer audio will be directly recorded to camera. Is it possible in camcoder also?
hi Gary, im using headphones from my audio interface. the receiver plugged into the audio interface, and my audio is very degraded, very low quality. do you know a fix for this?
I just had a rehearsal we tried to record direct into camera using the wireless me and all of the audio is blown out and clipping. I didn't plan to do it this way but the sound guy said "hey just plug it in" and i said "i guess why not" but your saying it could potentially damage the device and now I'm worried.
Hi Gary, got a bit of an urgent one. Could you use the headphone output to the same effect?
Hi Gary, thank you for making this super informative video. I'm hoping you can provide some advice... When converting a balanced XLR output (sound desk) to the Rode Wireless Go 2, can I get away with NOT running a DI Box and only use an adjustable Line Level Control (Attenuator) box from Jaycar Electronics? I intend to run XLR - RCA adaptor cable to the Line Level Control (Attenuator), Attenuator RCA output to the Rode Wireless Go (via RCA - 3.5mm adaptor)
I am recording an event which is taking place in 3 seperate auditoriums simultaneously (3 sound desks) and I'm hoping to avoid purchasing a tone of additional equipment if it's not necessary. I figure having a slightly noisey audio feed from a sound desk would be far better than capturing audio from the speakers. Thanks in advance for you advice. Cheers
I imagine the Jaycar actuation device is AA3078
the one designed to connect two RCA's to two RCA outputs. If it works for you cool. I do wonder if the output from the attenuator will still be too high for the input if the Rode WG2 transmitter. It would be worth a try. They are only about AU$10.
Thanks for taking the time to reply to my comment Gary, your input is most appreciated. I have since purchased the AA3078 and tested it with an RCA line output from my home audio amplifier setup with great success. However, I understand mixers have a higher output than your everyday consumer audio equipment, so I'm excited to test! Cheers
You should be fine Filmsy if you stick to the RCA Rec Outputs. They have a lower output than the XLR Main or Monitor outputs.
Hi Gary and thank you for your insight and solutions. Re. Method 2, would the XLR line output of a PA powered speaker (Yorkville EXM Mobile 8) use the same components (RODE Go II transmitter, attenuator cable, adapter, DI box, XLR cable) as the line output from a mixer? Thank you!
Thanks so much. Yes the MAIN OUTPUT XLR is a line output that can be feed to another powered speaker.
You can use the same setup 👍
If I have a 20db attenuator cable and the DI box why do I need to set the DI box to 20 dB doesn’t that give me me a total of 40 DB into the road transceiver
Do those cables work with The Boom XD Pro Comica audio system?
Any transmitter with a mic input. 👍
Nice explanation!! I do have one more question- What cable do I need to connect the rode wireless go 2 to zoom f3 as stereo input ?
If you are hoping to connect the receiver output to the F3 you will need to split the stereo mini jack to two separate XLR plugs. The phantom power would have to be switched off or you may blow up your WG2 receiver. A stereo 3.5mm plug to 2 XLR plugs.
@@GaryDmedia so do you think Rode SC 11 to 2 x vxlrpro would be a ideal solution?
Yes that would be the ultimate match. Quite expensive but would be the safest connection. The VXLR Pro has the voltage protection reducer. Just in case you inadvertently leave the phantom power on.
@@GaryDmedia Appreciate for your time. Thank you so much.. it was very much helpful
Hello Davies, Attenuator Cable is Unavailable in our country, can you give me another Alternative solution for this?
Use a di box as shown in the video. Just be sure the -40dB switch has been selected.
Could you also run the cable from a headphone jack on the mixer to the rode transmitter and control the volume with the headphone output?
Yes Steve, you can. The only additional component is an attenuated cable. The output from the headphone jack is very high. It will overdrive the input of the WG2 if you don’t. Stay safe Steve. 👍
Thank you - your first soluton uses RCA cable but my questions is instead of using RCA cable can I use 1/4 jack adpter (which converts 1/4 output to 3.5 mm TRS input) with 3.5mm TRS cable? look forward to your suggestion here please. Thank you
Yes as long as you use the suggested attenuated cable or something similar as in the video.
@@GaryDmedia fantastic. Thank you.
Huge issue with using the rode go 2 with headphones. The output is not meant to be used with headphones. No dedicated amp. So although you may get the signal there it's very weak in headphones. I just returned one because of this. Was hoping to use it as an iem system as well as a video mic. Unfortunately it doesn't work well for iem.
If you pair this with some sort of headphone amp to amplify the mic level speaker signal it can be done but that's not very elegant. It also depends on what kind of headphones you're trying to drive and how many ohms they are rated.
Hey Gary, this is a perfect solution. I would like to hear your opinion on connecting the line-out of my ZOOM H6 to the input of a RODE Wireless GO I or II transmitter without an attenuator. Do you think this would harm the transmitter?
(PS. I tried it once and my transmitter “survived”, but now I am sceptical).
Just have to use the attenuated cable and you will be alright.
@@GaryDmedia I bought both available MOVO attenuator cables (MV-RC100 & MV-RC300), so I’m good to go, Thanks again Gary. I enjoy your videos A LOT.
They will come in handy. 👍
As long as you're not cranking up the output volume you should be OK but if it's truly a line level output not a combination line out/headphone then...
I can use Irig pre 2 ?
Sescom makes an attenuator cable that is RCA to 1/8” so get that and no need to have two cables.
Thanks for the tip Andy. I appreciate it.
Complete newbie here - can the XLR system you described also be used to record audio from the mic receiver instead of the sound board directly?
Edward, the Rode WG2 transmitter could be set to record the audio being sent to it via the sound board.
Hi Gary, Thank You So much for this Video. I have a question? How we can get Stereo output thorugh transmitter. Do we need to use two transmitters to get the stereo. Since I am doing Live streaming of Musical Shows I need stereo sound? Thanks
Yes that is how you would do it using the Rode wireless go II. If you can cope with a cable connection you may be better to pursue using a stereo wired interface.
@@GaryDmedia Hi Gary, Thanks. What do you mean by stereo wired interface? I have puzzle how we connect Stereo to Two Go 2 microphone? If I am taking XLR Output from the Mixer Then we need two attenuators ? Isn't it. In the First section of your Video You are using RCA. Is this gives you stereo signl to Micrphone ?
@@rcmithunchamikara Hi Mithun, did you ever solve this problem? I guess there is a stereo attenuator cable needed AFTER a splitter cable which grabs the stereo output of the source device. Its puzzling that Gary takes a stereo cable and merges it into a mono signal, which normally is not a desired use case.
Sir can I connect the rode receiver unit to a Bluetooth speaker using a 3.5mm headphones jack as you shown and use it as an amplifier for big live classes for offline teaching , kindly help me..
Yes interestingly that would work. You would just have to be very careful that you did not get feedback. That squealing sound when a mic gets close to a speaker.
I use the rode xlr to 3.5mm connector with my analog mixer.
Thanks Mark, is that to send audio into or out of your mixer? Some I know connect the receiver output to the mixer that way to give them a cordless microphone.
@@GaryDmedia hi there, audio into the mixer. I never thought of using your method but good to know. The adapter allows for phantom power which other adapters dont specify.
Good tip Mark, thanks for the feedback.
Thanks for your video! Is the Rode receiving a stereo signal or will the RCA Stereo signal be put into mono? I tried this with a Sennheiser ew100 G3 setup but i only received the left channel when im trying to send a stereo signal. Thanks in advance! :)
Did you ever get an answer this question?
As far as those products are concerned, for a wireless Transmitter accepting Mic Signal, it is Obviously sending&receiving only 1channel of audio, hence it's MONO, not Stereo.
Using one(1) wireless mic Transmitter+Receiver will result in only 1channel of Audio processed, hence MONO.
An wireless IEM deployment may work well for Stereo Audio sending/receiving via wireless.
One question about option 3. Can you connect Rode with mixer directly, withot that black box?
No Walter, as explained in the video there is no output from the mixer low enough. All outputs will overdrive the input of the transmitter. On the other hand, you can connect the output of the WG2 receiver to a channel input on the mixer and use the system like a cordless microphone.
Could this be done with something other than rode? Like would it work for other transmitter/ receiver systems. Our church doesn't have funds right now for the rode. Thank you
Yes any transmitters with a standard 3.5mm lav microphone input.