A quick guide to which VXLR you need. VXLR = Your microphone has a battery VXLR+ = Your microphone DOES NOT have a battery VXLR Pro = Your microphone DOES NOT have a battery and you want to use 20ft+ XLR cables.
I am looking for something that does the opposite. I want to use my XLR mic into my 3.5 Rode Wireless Pro 2 TX. I may just have to get a zoom f3 then get this thing and then put the RODE RX into the zoom then from zoom out to the cam. Blah.
This was a really useful video. Thank you! I’m putting together a minimalist setup that I can take with me out in nature to record a flute via a lav mic. I think running it into my 1-channel audio interface through the VXLR+ might be ideal.
These adaptors work really well. I was really surprised to discover a few years ago that mics, such as lavs, required 5V phantom power (yes, I brought the simpler adaptor first). These adaptors would allow you to record multi-track lavs to a computer.
Hey Peter! Totally, these adapters and probably one of my new favorite accessories (I actually bought 2). Like I said, I've had little crossover between my 3.5mm Mic/Camera set ups and my XLR studio recording set ups, but now there are so many more possibilities!
I've been observing reviews, and I'm pondering whether the deficiency in power is the factor behind why certain direct-to-camera microphones are inferior to XLR microphones. If this indeed is the case, I'm curious to know if the rechargeable internal battery Rode Video NTG mic can compete with this microphone when paired with the VXLR+.
Thanks for your comment! I know Sescom makes some great products including cables and adapters, but I didn't know they had one for this! Thanks for sharing!
@@WayneRECs If interested in the Sescom, its called: "SES-TR-153 Professional DSLR Mic Cable 3-Pin XLR Femal to Right Angle 3.5mm TRS Male 10 foot" They will also make a custom length if you contact them.
@@WaypointOverland The cable needed in this scenario needs to be a 3.5 to male XLR. It also needs provide power (3.5 to 5 volts) as these mics need power to work. The VXLR+ converts 48 volt phantom power down to no more than 5 volts. The cable that you posted won't work in this instance.
That mke 200 sounds incredible in this setup! thanks for the vid. At the same time I think you should own a black version of those glasses too, to match your black accessories.
I literally was just thinking of doing this!!! Rode VM NTG to WaveXLR interface. Didn’t know I needed phantom power enabled for it to work, so I’m glad I didn’t buy the $10 3.5 to XLR adapter from Amazon.
The Rode NTG doesn't need phantom power to work as it is battery powered. Only mics that don't have their own power source need phantom power. The $10 Rode VXLR will work just fine for you.
Hey AJ, glad my video came at the right time! Like Mr.CombandShears mentioned you could technically use just the regular VXLR as the NTG has a built-in battery, I think to be safe, I'd still recommend the VXLR+ for a few reasons. The the regular VXLR, if you accidentally provide Phantom Power, you run the risk of potentially damaging the mic that you have plugged in. Also, the NTG has auto on sensing based on receiving 5v plug-in power, meaning in theory with the VXLR+, the NTG would auto power on/off with the WaveXLR. Lastly, if you do decide to switch to a different USB audio interface and the new one has 2 XLR inputs, in some cases, +48V is only able to send to both or none. So while some makes/models have independent +48v buttons for each separate input, if there is only 1 universal +48v, having the VXLR+ would allow you to still use the NTG along with another XLR condenser mic.
Different noise performance for each recorder pre-amps (Equivalent Input Noise -EIN). Cameras normally has shitty noisy pre-amps . Audio recorders are designed with low EIN normally.
In case you still check comments on older videos^^ Is there a way to connect a Stereo 3.5mm lavalier mic to the Zoom F3 while keeping it stereo? I would assume I need a splitter to connect both input of the Zoom F3? plus it needs to provide PlugIn power. Maybe 2x RODE VXLR+ plus some kind of 3.5mm splitter? Could it work? I should have tought about this before buying the Zoom F3 recently lol
Thanks for your question! Yes, to record a stereo recording using a dual lav that ends in a single TRS, you would need a splitter from that connection to split the lavs into separate L and R signals. THEN, having one go into ch 1 of the F3 and the other into ch 2 of the F3 (and setting the F3 to stereo recording mode). However, as I do not have a dual lav, I can't confirm, but I'm not exactly sure how it would work with 2 VXLR+ adapters (as both would be sending ~5v through each end of the splitter). This may or may not affect your mics or audio signal. It could be that you only need 1 VXLR+ and 1 VXLR (regular) but without owning these components, I can confirm this for you.
@@WayneRECs Thanks a lot for the reply! In the meantime I found a blog doing exactly that with 2 VXLR+ (and a splitter) and it works fine that way. But I already started wondering if 1 VXLR+ and 1 VXLR could work too... save money XD
Can I use VXLR+ adapter for ANY microphone that has 3.5mm plug? I mean, if a mic needs 3-5v (plug-in power), or don't need any kind of conversion...does it also work in both cases?
That Sennheiser sounds awesome for $99 recorded into the F3! I have both the VXLR+ and Pro and prefer the Pro. Just seems to be a cleaner signal. I'm using it more often with the X8.
Thanks for sharing your setup! The Pro does provide a balanced output (which the VXLR+ does not) so you very well may be getting a clear signal using it. Funny how the $99 MKE 200 needs ~$375 (VXLR+ & F3) to make it sound awesome lol!
I was wondering if it could work in reverse or it will explode :) If you plug xlr mic to the adapter and use the 3.5mm as output to something like phone will it work? what if the mic is condenser can it provide phantom power to it and convert the 5v to 48v?
It would be awesome if it could, but unfortunately it's not designed for that purpose. The best way to do this would to use a stand alone recorder (like the ZOOm F3) that is battery powered and can provide phantom power to your condenser mic, then run the line out of the F3 to your phone or camera.
I can see a vlogger wanting to maintain the same sound with the same mic that is being used in different environments or scenarios. I couldn't believe how good that little mic sounded. I struggle with sound. While I want the perfect audio, there are situation in travel that a plug and play is the easiest. Anyway, still learning. Thank you.
I agree Nestor! After making this video, I think the MKE 200 sounds great when in the right recording set up. Unfortunately, I wanted so badly for it to sound that way when plugged into my ZV-E10 (for ease of use, compactness & baked in audio) but this video got me rethinking my entire recording workflow with regards to certain cameras, external recorders and the wide variety of mics I have access to! Probably the main reason I haven't been able to put out as much content as I was before. Too many options that I can't decide what to use!
@@WayneRECs lol that cracked me up. I’m filming my next video and I had 4 mics running at the same time. Talk about too much options. Lol. That was funny 😄
Is there use case to convert 3.5 mic to XLR and not the another way around? If I want to connect a pencil condenser need phantom power like Line Audio CM4 to input to camera, how do I do that? If I use Sennheiser MKE 440 stereo mic to record front facing audio on camera, how do I record my commentary audio behind the camera?
Cue the Rod Serling Twilight Zone music. I am holding in my hand right now an unopened pkg that arrived today of a Rode VXLR + adapter I was told to get for the Zoom F3 recorder arriving here in a few days. I didn't know why the "+" model and got confused so I ALSO bought the basic $10 VXLR adapter. This video explains it all. Thank you! I am aware the F3 has almost no optional features like the larger recorders and I see in your Yamaha mixer photos that it has knobs for many of those missing features. Would there be scenarios where it might be useful to put both the F3 and the mixer in the setup? Another question: when the F3 is in the setup, what gets sent to the camera recorder is not digital and not 32-bit anymore, correct? It is back to analog 24-bit, correct? I did not see on your channel a video for what all that Yamaha mixer does for you beyond the USB connection into your computer- did I overlook it?
Hey Jer! You're right! When you output audio from the F3 to another device, you are not outputting a 32-bit digital signal and your audio will be recorded at whatever bit depth you have the receiving device set as. So for example, if you out put the F3 to a camera that records 24-bit 48kHz, you won't be able to adjust the camera's baked in audio like you would the 32-bit file recorded in the F3. There is an Output Level setting on the F3 for this reason that's within the menu system and I talk about this in my upcoming F3 video, which I think will be super helpful for those new to 32-bit Floating Point recording!
I totally recognize the feeling of two worlds. My best audio equipment is XLR from when I started podcasting a few years back, but now working with video that equipment feels heavy and clumsy compared to the 3,5 mm world with e.g. the elegant Røde Wireless GO. I must admit I tend to be lazy and record audio in camera even though audio sync in e.g. Davinci Reaolve is super easy and I could take advantage of my very nice audio interface and record on PC when in office/studio.
Ha, I totally get where you're coming from! I think for each of us, something we often overlook are the details in our process that could potentially hinder our creative flow. IMO, I'd much rather compromise on some production element if it means I have an easier time producing substantial content. That being said, personally, it's taken me a number of years to get my studio set up to best suit my workflow (and it's still can be a WIP lol) When ever I incorporate something new, I try to do so with the understanding that it may take a little while to get into a rhythm. I also consider myself fortunate as I have a dedicated studio space that I can leave the majority of my equipment set up and ready to go (sounds like you might be heading that way with your desk/office mic set up!)
Hi, thank you for making such informative videos, I am in process of buying 2 x Rode VideoMic Go II (for 2 people to interview boomed and indoors), and want to record them on Zoom H6 or iMac ( with Rode Connect ) appx 20 ft away, I am not sure if the USB-C cable 20 ft or 3.5mm cable for such a distance would work properly. your suggestion would be highly appreciated
Can I get a shure mx7, plug it into a tc helicon c1 interace, then use a xlr>3.5mm on the out to go to a xbox controller? Trying to use autotune for gaming
Is it possible to connect Rode Lavalier -> Rode Wireless Go Transmitter -> Rode Wireless Receiver -> RodeVXLR+ -> Audio Interface? (Without the Rode VXLR+ I have not enough gain at the audio interface and I don't want to destroy my Rode Wireless Receiver with the phantom power.)
Great Video! Thank you! I think my question is a bit different though.. I am trying to connect a Shure SCM-268 mixer to a Panasonic HC-V785K Camcorders Mic input jack. I dont think an XLR to 3.5mm cable is a legit way to go but I would certainly appreciate your thoughts. Thank you.
kind of of topic but i saw your channel get reviewed on vid iq's live stream a week or two ago. they had nothing but good things to say about you and even requested an audio audit. are you going to do it?
Hey Sixx! Ha, funny that you caught that VidIQ review! I love that channel and they were super kind about the feedback they provided! I do have a video where I could feature Rob's audio set up, but I don't think I'd do an in depth look at their channel (I have a number of my own subs you included that are on the Audio Audit list!)
This is definitely the best video on this topic and I appreciate you for that! I was wondering....if I'm using the vxlr plus with Rode NTG, should phantom power be on 24v, 48v, or off since it has a built in battery. Great job on the video! Look forward to your reply
Hey Donny! Thanks for your comment and question! The VXLR+ converts anything from 12-48v phantom power to 3-5v plug-in power. So setting phantom power to 24v or 48v shouldn't make a difference. With regards to the RODE VideoMic NTG, I've done a few test with mine and my Zoom F3 and with phantom power on (both 24v or 48v) with an NTG plugged in via it's 3.5mm cable, turning the F3 on/off will also enable the VideoMic NTG to auto power on/off (as I believe it detects a 3-5v signal for this feature). The VideoMIC NTG will work with the VXLR+ with NO phantom power applied, but would then need to be manually powered on/off. In my tests I didn't hear any discernable difference it audio between all these settings. Hope this helps!
Hi Wayne! love the vid! I have a question, my camera has bad preamps and i have a non powered mic (plug and play) like yours and it makes some hissing on the background, my idea was to buy a preamp like saramonic smartrig that supply phantom power and will connect it with the rode vxlr+ to my mic, do you think it will solve the hissing issue?
Hey Mike! Thanks for your comment! It's really hard to say. What mic and camera are you using? Are you only recording your voice or are you recording something else? How far away is your mic/camera from the sound source you are recording? I'd recommend first trying to determine where the hiss is coming from. It could be the mic, your camera or even the cable between them. If you have any extra devices, try swapping out your 3.5mm cable first. If the hiss is still the same, try your mic in a different device and see what that sounds like. Something like the Saramonic Smartrig should provide a cleaner preamp for your mic, but if the issue is in your camera, that will still be in your audio signal chain. Best case scenario, you plug your mic into the SmartRig, set a health gain on the smartrig and then if the issue is in your camera, turn your camera's rec level to a significantly lower setting. Worst case scenario, you're mic is inherently noisy in which case there isn't much to do aside from using noise reduction in post. Lastly, if it is your camera that's noisy, you can mitigate that to some extent by physically moving your mic closer to what you are recording (effectively enabling you to lower your camera's audio rec level and most likely along with it the noise you're hearing).
@@WayneRECs thankss!! My olympus camera is known to have bad preamps and based on my research the hiss will go away if you have a battery powered mic ( but i dont want to buy another mic) so i need to stick with my rode videomicro (its perfectly fine, no issues with my other camera). Thats why im trying to find a way to maybe add preamp and i found dslr video shooters video with the saramonic thats supply phantom power to xlr mics directly to camera and then i dig a little bit more then i found your channel! Thanks for your response you earned a sub! (Side note: olympus cameras have an option that you can toggle on or off that supplies power to non powered mics that causing the hiss, and if you turn the option off, the non powered mic wont work but powered mics do
Hey Mike! While I don't have direct experience with Olympus cameras and your mic, I can report that my plug in power mic (MKE 200) sounds (to me) noticeably better (cleaner) in this VXLR+ F3 combo. That being said YMMV with the VideoMicro (though for it's intended use, it's a great compact mic!) Thanks for the sub!
I wanted to run each rode wireless go ii channel into my zoom h6. Do I need a stereo to mono splitter and 2 of the + or pro? That’s what it sounds like.
Thanks for your comment! On the ZOOM H6s included XY Capsule, there is a 3.5mm stereo input jack on the side. You should be able to plug your Wireless GO II receiver into it and as long as it's set to split your channels, that input will supercede the built in XY mics and you'll be able to record your wireless set on the XY channel. Hope this helps!
Thanks for your question! If you intend to connect your 2 lav mics into your H5 and they are all close together in proximity, you could use (2) RODE VXLR+ adapters (one for each channel/mic). You'll need to turn on +48v Phantom Power on both channels on your H5 for the adapters to convert to the appropriate plug-in power required by the lavs. If your H5 is going to be located farther away from the lavs and you need to run XLR cables from the H5 to the lavs, then I would recommend the RODE VXLR Pro adapters which are better suited for use with additional cable lengths.
@@WayneRECs Thanks for sharing your technical thoughts and valuable information. So best is to buy VXLR Pro? And if I want to plug in Rode Go Wireless then I don't need any adapters? I am sure I will need VXLR which is the most basic and no Phantom Power.
Hi, while I don't have an MKE 400 mic to make a direct comparison, there will be a difference between the two in both sound characteristics as well as features. The audible difference may or may not be noticeable depending on the type of recording and environment you're shooting in.
hey love your channel so far especially to see how it compares to camera Preamp, do you have a better camera like a Full Frame or ASPC so we can see if it still makes a difference? Besides, can you try the rode wireless Go 2 (with a lav mic) to camera vs the same lav mic to the F3? That would be really useful. thanks
Hey Isaac! Thanks for your comment and kind words about my channel! Unfortunately, as I'm more of an audio person rather than a video person, I end up spending most of my budget on mics and audio gear and not on cameras...
Hey Christopher! The is VXLR+ is unbalanced and will convert 48v phantom power to ~5v for mics that require plug in power. If you want a balanced signal, you would have to buy the VXLR Pro. The standard VXLR is only a physical adapter and will not convert any power sent through it.
So I I would plug VXLR+ in to my Zoom F3, then conecet 3.5mm to DJI receiver, could I run 2 lav´s? Plus like additional Røde ntg xlr to xlr shotgun mic? Ø:
Yes, in theory you can connect the DJI Mic Receiver via a VXLR+ and record both your DJI Transmitters in one channel of the F3 and another XLR mic in the other channel... BUT... in order to do so, you will need to set your DJI Mic Receiver to Mono mode (to merge both your Transmitters into a single signal) as the F3 XLR input is a mono input. If you have the DJI Mic Receiver set to Stereo, only one of your Transmitters will be output to the F3.
While I haven't worked with a Sennheiser 908B ew, my understanding is that the mic is intended to be used with a Sennheiser wireless transmitter. Additionally, it seems as though the mic requires anything between 12v-48v of Phantom Power. As the RODE VXLR+ converts 48v to ~5v, I don't think it will work in this case. You might just be stuck with using the Sennheiser MZA 900 P which is specifically designed for the 908B.
Okay okay.. question. I want to be able to monitor my voice, latency free, while gaming. So research lead me to audio interfaces. BUT I don’t want a separate mic like streamers/podcasters use. I want to use beyerdynamic MMX-300 which has a built in mic. Can I use this adapter to plug the headphones 3.5 mic cable into an xlr interface? Or is there an interface around/under $200 that has a 3.5 mic input with monitoring? Or do I really need an xlr mic on a boom and a standalone headset? Thanks!
Also, would it be possible to get latency free monitoring if I ever want to get a separate dac/amp to add to the interface and still get latency free monitoring?
Hey Brando! While I don't have a headset to test personally, I'd suggest looking into a Yamaha AG03 or AG06 audio interface. Is your headset has a split connection at the end (separate 3.5mm plugs for the headphones and mic) the AG03 has a 3.5mm input for a headset mic & with a 1/4" adapter, you could plug your headphone end into the main headphone jack to allow for direct monitoring. An interface would also allow you to expand to other mics in the future.
A quick guide to which VXLR you need.
VXLR = Your microphone has a battery
VXLR+ = Your microphone DOES NOT have a battery
VXLR Pro = Your microphone DOES NOT have a battery and you want to use 20ft+ XLR cables.
Thank you for boiling it down for me.
I am looking for something that does the opposite. I want to use my XLR mic into my 3.5 Rode Wireless Pro 2 TX. I may just have to get a zoom f3 then get this thing and then put the RODE RX into the zoom then from zoom out to the cam. Blah.
Nice video! The MKE 200 plugged into XLR sounds awesome and more professional!
Thanks Isaac! I was really digging the MKE 200 in this configuration!
Could you make video show setup tentacle sync with Osmo Pocket?
Thank you!
Thanks! Just picked one up. Looking forward to seeing if my cheap lavs improve by running them into the zoom f3, instead of direct to camera.
jeez that sound so good
Thanks for sharing. A quick question: When you say, you are plugging the MKE 200 directly into the camera, are you not using the VXLR+? 2:35
I’m really digging your videos!
Thanks Kent! I appreciate you stopping by!
This was a really useful video. Thank you! I’m putting together a minimalist setup that I can take with me out in nature to record a flute via a lav mic. I think running it into my 1-channel audio interface through the VXLR+ might be ideal.
These adaptors work really well. I was really surprised to discover a few years ago that mics, such as lavs, required 5V phantom power (yes, I brought the simpler adaptor first). These adaptors would allow you to record multi-track lavs to a computer.
Hey Peter! Totally, these adapters and probably one of my new favorite accessories (I actually bought 2). Like I said, I've had little crossover between my 3.5mm Mic/Camera set ups and my XLR studio recording set ups, but now there are so many more possibilities!
I've been observing reviews, and I'm pondering whether the deficiency in power is the factor behind why certain direct-to-camera microphones are inferior to XLR microphones. If this indeed is the case, I'm curious to know if the rechargeable internal battery Rode Video NTG mic can compete with this microphone when paired with the VXLR+.
For one cable and no adapters, Sescom sells a cable with a 3.5mm male to XLR. AND it’s made to specifically to hand the power with no issues.
Thanks for your comment! I know Sescom makes some great products including cables and adapters, but I didn't know they had one for this! Thanks for sharing!
@@WayneRECs If interested in the Sescom, its called: "SES-TR-153 Professional DSLR Mic Cable 3-Pin XLR Femal to Right Angle 3.5mm TRS Male 10 foot" They will also make a custom length if you contact them.
@@WaypointOverland The cable needed in this scenario needs to be a 3.5 to male XLR. It also needs provide power (3.5 to 5 volts) as these mics need power to work. The VXLR+ converts 48 volt phantom power down to no more than 5 volts. The cable that you posted won't work in this instance.
Hi Wayne, thanks for making this video, I just go the Zoom F3, it was really help me. thank you !
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That mke 200 sounds incredible in this setup! thanks for the vid. At the same time I think you should own a black version of those glasses too, to match your black accessories.
Hey Dennis! Thanks for your comment! I actually do have a pair of Black frames, but only wear them on "special" occasions lol!
I literally was just thinking of doing this!!! Rode VM NTG to WaveXLR interface. Didn’t know I needed phantom power enabled for it to work, so I’m glad I didn’t buy the $10 3.5 to XLR adapter from Amazon.
The Rode NTG doesn't need phantom power to work as it is battery powered. Only mics that don't have their own power source need phantom power. The $10 Rode VXLR will work just fine for you.
Hey AJ, glad my video came at the right time! Like Mr.CombandShears mentioned you could technically use just the regular VXLR as the NTG has a built-in battery, I think to be safe, I'd still recommend the VXLR+ for a few reasons. The the regular VXLR, if you accidentally provide Phantom Power, you run the risk of potentially damaging the mic that you have plugged in. Also, the NTG has auto on sensing based on receiving 5v plug-in power, meaning in theory with the VXLR+, the NTG would auto power on/off with the WaveXLR. Lastly, if you do decide to switch to a different USB audio interface and the new one has 2 XLR inputs, in some cases, +48V is only able to send to both or none. So while some makes/models have independent +48v buttons for each separate input, if there is only 1 universal +48v, having the VXLR+ would allow you to still use the NTG along with another XLR condenser mic.
@@WayneRECs great insight & considerations Wayne.
Different noise performance for each recorder pre-amps (Equivalent Input Noise -EIN). Cameras normally has shitty noisy pre-amps . Audio recorders are designed with low EIN normally.
In case you still check comments on older videos^^
Is there a way to connect a Stereo 3.5mm lavalier mic to the Zoom F3 while keeping it stereo?
I would assume I need a splitter to connect both input of the Zoom F3? plus it needs to provide PlugIn power.
Maybe 2x RODE VXLR+ plus some kind of 3.5mm splitter? Could it work?
I should have tought about this before buying the Zoom F3 recently lol
Thanks for your question! Yes, to record a stereo recording using a dual lav that ends in a single TRS, you would need a splitter from that connection to split the lavs into separate L and R signals. THEN, having one go into ch 1 of the F3 and the other into ch 2 of the F3 (and setting the F3 to stereo recording mode). However, as I do not have a dual lav, I can't confirm, but I'm not exactly sure how it would work with 2 VXLR+ adapters (as both would be sending ~5v through each end of the splitter). This may or may not affect your mics or audio signal. It could be that you only need 1 VXLR+ and 1 VXLR (regular) but without owning these components, I can confirm this for you.
@@WayneRECs Thanks a lot for the reply!
In the meantime I found a blog doing exactly that with 2 VXLR+ (and a splitter) and it works fine that way. But I already started wondering if 1 VXLR+ and 1 VXLR could work too... save money XD
Can i plug 3.5mm dynamic microphone without phantom power converter? Does it work just by xlr to 3.5mm convertor?
Can I use VXLR+ adapter for ANY microphone that has 3.5mm plug? I mean, if a mic needs 3-5v (plug-in power), or don't need any kind of conversion...does it also work in both cases?
That Sennheiser sounds awesome for $99 recorded into the F3! I have both the VXLR+ and Pro and prefer the Pro. Just seems to be a cleaner signal. I'm using it more often with the X8.
Thanks for sharing your setup! The Pro does provide a balanced output (which the VXLR+ does not) so you very well may be getting a clear signal using it. Funny how the $99 MKE 200 needs ~$375 (VXLR+ & F3) to make it sound awesome lol!
Vxlr plus picks up a lot of interference just by the cable I had to extend it away from anything electric
I was wondering if it could work in reverse or it will explode :)
If you plug xlr mic to the adapter and use the 3.5mm as output to something like phone will it work? what if the mic is condenser can it provide phantom power to it and convert the 5v to 48v?
It would be awesome if it could, but unfortunately it's not designed for that purpose. The best way to do this would to use a stand alone recorder (like the ZOOm F3) that is battery powered and can provide phantom power to your condenser mic, then run the line out of the F3 to your phone or camera.
I can see a vlogger wanting to maintain the same sound with the same mic that is being used in different environments or scenarios. I couldn't believe how good that little mic sounded. I struggle with sound. While I want the perfect audio, there are situation in travel that a plug and play is the easiest. Anyway, still learning. Thank you.
I agree Nestor! After making this video, I think the MKE 200 sounds great when in the right recording set up. Unfortunately, I wanted so badly for it to sound that way when plugged into my ZV-E10 (for ease of use, compactness & baked in audio) but this video got me rethinking my entire recording workflow with regards to certain cameras, external recorders and the wide variety of mics I have access to! Probably the main reason I haven't been able to put out as much content as I was before. Too many options that I can't decide what to use!
@@WayneRECs lol that cracked me up. I’m filming my next video and I had 4 mics running at the same time. Talk about too much options. Lol. That was funny 😄
Ha, well, had I gone to B&H in person, I'd probably walk out with 4 different mics that I'd record simultaneously too lol!
Is there use case to convert 3.5 mic to XLR and not the another way around? If I want to connect a pencil condenser need phantom power like Line Audio CM4 to input to camera, how do I do that? If I use Sennheiser MKE 440 stereo mic to record front facing audio on camera, how do I record my commentary audio behind the camera?
you can use a zoom or a tascam with phantom power and plug the output 3.5 jack to the camera and the mic to the zoom
Cue the Rod Serling Twilight Zone music. I am holding in my hand right now an unopened pkg that arrived today of a Rode VXLR + adapter I was told to get for the Zoom F3 recorder arriving here in a few days. I didn't know why the "+" model and got confused so I ALSO bought the basic $10 VXLR adapter. This video explains it all. Thank you! I am aware the F3 has almost no optional features like the larger recorders and I see in your Yamaha mixer photos that it has knobs for many of those missing features. Would there be scenarios where it might be useful to put both the F3 and the mixer in the setup? Another question: when the F3 is in the setup, what gets sent to the camera recorder is not digital and not 32-bit anymore, correct? It is back to analog 24-bit, correct? I did not see on your channel a video for what all that Yamaha mixer does for you beyond the USB connection into your computer- did I overlook it?
Hey Jer! You're right! When you output audio from the F3 to another device, you are not outputting a 32-bit digital signal and your audio will be recorded at whatever bit depth you have the receiving device set as. So for example, if you out put the F3 to a camera that records 24-bit 48kHz, you won't be able to adjust the camera's baked in audio like you would the 32-bit file recorded in the F3. There is an Output Level setting on the F3 for this reason that's within the menu system and I talk about this in my upcoming F3 video, which I think will be super helpful for those new to 32-bit Floating Point recording!
@@WayneRECs Thanks for the answer!
I totally recognize the feeling of two worlds. My best audio equipment is XLR from when I started podcasting a few years back, but now working with video that equipment feels heavy and clumsy compared to the 3,5 mm world with e.g. the elegant Røde Wireless GO.
I must admit I tend to be lazy and record audio in camera even though audio sync in e.g. Davinci Reaolve is super easy and I could take advantage of my very nice audio interface and record on PC when in office/studio.
Ha, I totally get where you're coming from! I think for each of us, something we often overlook are the details in our process that could potentially hinder our creative flow. IMO, I'd much rather compromise on some production element if it means I have an easier time producing substantial content. That being said, personally, it's taken me a number of years to get my studio set up to best suit my workflow (and it's still can be a WIP lol)
When ever I incorporate something new, I try to do so with the understanding that it may take a little while to get into a rhythm. I also consider myself fortunate as I have a dedicated studio space that I can leave the majority of my equipment set up and ready to go (sounds like you might be heading that way with your desk/office mic set up!)
Very informative. Filling up my amazon cart. lol.
Ha! Hey Rodney! I totally get that!
Nice glasses!
Hi, thank you for making such informative videos, I am in process of buying 2 x Rode VideoMic Go II (for 2 people to interview boomed and indoors), and want to record them on Zoom H6 or iMac ( with Rode Connect ) appx 20 ft away,
I am not sure if the USB-C cable 20 ft or 3.5mm cable for such a distance would work properly.
your suggestion would be highly appreciated
Nice videos,, I will appreciate it if you do a video using f3 zoom with lav mics. I coudn't figure it out what cables to use 😀 Thanks for your videos
Can I get a shure mx7, plug it into a tc helicon c1 interace, then use a xlr>3.5mm on the out to go to a xbox controller? Trying to use autotune for gaming
Can VXLR (plus or Pro) also work with mikes that doesnt require phantom power? If so we can avoid having to keep both VXLR and VXLR plus/pro!
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Is it possible to connect Rode Lavalier -> Rode Wireless Go Transmitter -> Rode Wireless Receiver -> RodeVXLR+ -> Audio Interface? (Without the Rode VXLR+ I have not enough gain at the audio interface and I don't want to destroy my Rode Wireless Receiver with the phantom power.)
Awesome video. Can you please do this test with a Rode Video Micro (as it is the only mic I own).
Thank you!
Great Video! Thank you! I think my question is a bit different though.. I am trying to connect a Shure SCM-268 mixer to a Panasonic HC-V785K Camcorders Mic input jack. I dont think an XLR to 3.5mm cable is a legit way to go but I would certainly appreciate your thoughts. Thank you.
Hi, I have the exact same problem, did you find a way to use your camera with that mic?
kind of of topic but i saw your channel get reviewed on vid iq's live stream a week or two ago. they had nothing but good things to say about you and even requested an audio audit. are you going to do it?
Hey Sixx! Ha, funny that you caught that VidIQ review! I love that channel and they were super kind about the feedback they provided! I do have a video where I could feature Rob's audio set up, but I don't think I'd do an in depth look at their channel (I have a number of my own subs you included that are on the Audio Audit list!)
This is definitely the best video on this topic and I appreciate you for that! I was wondering....if I'm using the vxlr plus with Rode NTG, should phantom power be on 24v, 48v, or off since it has a built in battery. Great job on the video! Look forward to your reply
Hey Donny! Thanks for your comment and question! The VXLR+ converts anything from 12-48v phantom power to 3-5v plug-in power. So setting phantom power to 24v or 48v shouldn't make a difference. With regards to the RODE VideoMic NTG, I've done a few test with mine and my Zoom F3 and with phantom power on (both 24v or 48v) with an NTG plugged in via it's 3.5mm cable, turning the F3 on/off will also enable the VideoMic NTG to auto power on/off (as I believe it detects a 3-5v signal for this feature). The VideoMIC NTG will work with the VXLR+ with NO phantom power applied, but would then need to be manually powered on/off. In my tests I didn't hear any discernable difference it audio between all these settings. Hope this helps!
@@WayneRECs Awesome! That was the answer I was after. I really appreciate your help and taking the time to reply.
Hi Wayne! love the vid! I have a question, my camera has bad preamps and i have a non powered mic (plug and play) like yours and it makes some hissing on the background, my idea was to buy a preamp like saramonic smartrig that supply phantom power and will connect it with the rode vxlr+ to my mic, do you think it will solve the hissing issue?
Hey Mike! Thanks for your comment! It's really hard to say. What mic and camera are you using? Are you only recording your voice or are you recording something else? How far away is your mic/camera from the sound source you are recording?
I'd recommend first trying to determine where the hiss is coming from. It could be the mic, your camera or even the cable between them. If you have any extra devices, try swapping out your 3.5mm cable first. If the hiss is still the same, try your mic in a different device and see what that sounds like.
Something like the Saramonic Smartrig should provide a cleaner preamp for your mic, but if the issue is in your camera, that will still be in your audio signal chain.
Best case scenario, you plug your mic into the SmartRig, set a health gain on the smartrig and then if the issue is in your camera, turn your camera's rec level to a significantly lower setting.
Worst case scenario, you're mic is inherently noisy in which case there isn't much to do aside from using noise reduction in post.
Lastly, if it is your camera that's noisy, you can mitigate that to some extent by physically moving your mic closer to what you are recording (effectively enabling you to lower your camera's audio rec level and most likely along with it the noise you're hearing).
@@WayneRECs thankss!! My olympus camera is known to have bad preamps and based on my research the hiss will go away if you have a battery powered mic ( but i dont want to buy another mic) so i need to stick with my rode videomicro (its perfectly fine, no issues with my other camera).
Thats why im trying to find a way to maybe add preamp and i found dslr video shooters video with the saramonic thats supply phantom power to xlr mics directly to camera and then i dig a little bit more then i found your channel!
Thanks for your response you earned a sub!
(Side note: olympus cameras have an option that you can toggle on or off that supplies power to non powered mics that causing the hiss, and if you turn the option off, the non powered mic wont work but powered mics do
Hey Mike! While I don't have direct experience with Olympus cameras and your mic, I can report that my plug in power mic (MKE 200) sounds (to me) noticeably better (cleaner) in this VXLR+ F3 combo. That being said YMMV with the VideoMicro (though for it's intended use, it's a great compact mic!) Thanks for the sub!
I wanted to run each rode wireless go ii channel into my zoom h6. Do I need a stereo to mono splitter and 2 of the + or pro? That’s what it sounds like.
Thanks for your comment! On the ZOOM H6s included XY Capsule, there is a 3.5mm stereo input jack on the side. You should be able to plug your Wireless GO II receiver into it and as long as it's set to split your channels, that input will supercede the built in XY mics and you'll be able to record your wireless set on the XY channel. Hope this helps!
I have Rode Lav mics and Zoom H5. I wish to use two of them into XLR jacks of H5. Which adapter do I need?
Thanks for your question! If you intend to connect your 2 lav mics into your H5 and they are all close together in proximity, you could use (2) RODE VXLR+ adapters (one for each channel/mic). You'll need to turn on +48v Phantom Power on both channels on your H5 for the adapters to convert to the appropriate plug-in power required by the lavs.
If your H5 is going to be located farther away from the lavs and you need to run XLR cables from the H5 to the lavs, then I would recommend the RODE VXLR Pro adapters which are better suited for use with additional cable lengths.
@@WayneRECs Thanks for sharing your technical thoughts and valuable information. So best is to buy VXLR Pro?
And if I want to plug in Rode Go Wireless then I don't need any adapters? I am sure I will need VXLR which is the most basic and no Phantom Power.
@@WayneRECs So if I decide to buy adaptors then I should buy VXLR PRO?
is there a difference in sound quality between Sennheiser MKE 2000 and Sennheiser MKE 4000?
Hi, while I don't have an MKE 400 mic to make a direct comparison, there will be a difference between the two in both sound characteristics as well as features. The audible difference may or may not be noticeable depending on the type of recording and environment you're shooting in.
The Sennheiser via XLR sounds incredible. Much better than the Rode IMO.
Totally! I was pleasant surprised by how good the MKE 200 sounded!
I like sennheiser myself. But rode is awesome. My rode shotgun mic is awesome
hey love your channel so far especially to see how it compares to camera Preamp, do you have a better camera like a Full Frame or ASPC so we can see if it still makes a difference?
Besides, can you try the rode wireless Go 2 (with a lav mic) to camera vs the same lav mic to the F3? That would be really useful. thanks
Hey Isaac! Thanks for your comment and kind words about my channel! Unfortunately, as I'm more of an audio person rather than a video person, I end up spending most of my budget on mics and audio gear and not on cameras...
is it safe to activate phantom power with a vxlr plus connection? in the description it says it is unbalance
Hey Christopher! The is VXLR+ is unbalanced and will convert 48v phantom power to ~5v for mics that require plug in power. If you want a balanced signal, you would have to buy the VXLR Pro. The standard VXLR is only a physical adapter and will not convert any power sent through it.
So I I would plug VXLR+ in to my Zoom F3, then conecet 3.5mm to DJI receiver, could I run 2 lav´s? Plus like additional Røde ntg xlr to xlr shotgun mic? Ø:
Yes, in theory you can connect the DJI Mic Receiver via a VXLR+ and record both your DJI Transmitters in one channel of the F3 and another XLR mic in the other channel... BUT... in order to do so, you will need to set your DJI Mic Receiver to Mono mode (to merge both your Transmitters into a single signal) as the F3 XLR input is a mono input. If you have the DJI Mic Receiver set to Stereo, only one of your Transmitters will be output to the F3.
Whith this adapter, can i use a Sennheiser 908B ew wired on a mixer with 48V on?
While I haven't worked with a Sennheiser 908B ew, my understanding is that the mic is intended to be used with a Sennheiser wireless transmitter. Additionally, it seems as though the mic requires anything between 12v-48v of Phantom Power. As the RODE VXLR+ converts 48v to ~5v, I don't think it will work in this case. You might just be stuck with using the Sennheiser MZA 900 P which is specifically designed for the 908B.
@@WayneRECs It worked!
You are fucking God send. I have been looking for a cable on how to connect my MKE 400 and Rode ME to the Zoom F3
Thanks, and God bless!
Thanks Ben! I appreciate you stopping by!
Okay okay.. question. I want to be able to monitor my voice, latency free, while gaming. So research lead me to audio interfaces. BUT I don’t want a separate mic like streamers/podcasters use. I want to use beyerdynamic MMX-300 which has a built in mic. Can I use this adapter to plug the headphones 3.5 mic cable into an xlr interface? Or is there an interface around/under $200 that has a 3.5 mic input with monitoring? Or do I really need an xlr mic on a boom and a standalone headset? Thanks!
Also, would it be possible to get latency free monitoring if I ever want to get a separate dac/amp to add to the interface and still get latency free monitoring?
Hey Brando! While I don't have a headset to test personally, I'd suggest looking into a Yamaha AG03 or AG06 audio interface. Is your headset has a split connection at the end (separate 3.5mm plugs for the headphones and mic) the AG03 has a 3.5mm input for a headset mic & with a 1/4" adapter, you could plug your headphone end into the main headphone jack to allow for direct monitoring.
An interface would also allow you to expand to other mics in the future.
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