Fixing the LONGEST Traffic Tailback I've Ever seen in Cities Skylines!
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- This Traffic backs up to OUTSIDE the map!!! How will we fix it? Enjoy :-)
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21:53 you keep doing this, but for it to work properly you need a number of nodes equal to 2 x (n. of lanes - 1). As you have set up this piece of road, the guys on the bottom lane cannot exit from the highway at the next junction. You can see at 22:30 all the cars disappearing, because they can no longer reach their destination.
Thanks for working on my city!
You cheated =D @22:00 the "red" cars cant take the next exit. You can tell by the cars right side of the screen instantly disappering. Lane tool is a very dangerous tool =P
(PS. if you'd moved the metro with snap-on it woul do nice curves'n all :) )
@@Andy85H What map is that? It's gorgeous
@@theo468 Revelstoke steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1704568425
RIP Hugo There, Press F to pay respects.
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Wow, everybody owns a BMW it seems, there is no lane but the left lane.
Peter Parker it’s just that bmw drivers have a really bad reputation
@@Drnken229 because they wanna go fast
Peter confirmed BMW owner
@@Drnken229 bruh you work for a newspaper company
Poor Hugo, not only is he replaced by a superior method, he's still isolated as well!
Unacknowledged victim of automation. :/
Dear Biffa,
Your voice is very soothing to listen to. I've had a stressful day and lo and behold I get a notification that you uploaded a video. It was a wonderful, relaxing way to end a hectic day.
Thank you sir. Thank you.
You're welcome :-)
I must concur. I don't know what it is about British accents relaxes me. I think it's the combination of the accent and word usage (different from American English). I'm always checking for newly uploaded Biffa videos. Can't wait for the next #Teaville video - or traffic fix video for that matter (I've watched all 100+ videos).
"new video 44 seconds ago" is exactly what I wanted to see today. Huzzah!
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10:38 the moment Hugo was fired.
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hahahaha.. I'm wheezing
We must pay our respects to this living legend
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Hugo is getting replaced by automation o.O
Poor guy!
Nuuuuu
Hugo Control S.... sounds a bit odd...
Motivated Peon - what about Hugo S?
Hugo was always a robot
Biffa: "Oh my..."
Everyone: "giddy aunt"
Biffa: "...goodness me"
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Biffa: "And we can turn that into..."
Everyone:" An oval-about"
Biffa: "...an oblong-about"
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Giddy Aunt.... that sound like Alex the Rambler there!
@@fiveer11 yes soneone else also thought
Damn biffa, you're way too merciful on this eye-shaped spaghetti nonsense in the highway. I'd just bulldoze it all and set up a straight highway and properly spaced good junctions to get off to the city.
I did give him the option in the fix my city notes but he must have liked it.
I like it the way it is. Looks much more interesting than a straight highway with proper junctions.
What map is that you are using? I liked it.
I would have simplified it too. It would have been a lot of work, but well worth it.
AdventureMe Revelstoke it's linked in a few comments.
i gasped right along with you at that new ctrl+S shortcut on merging lanes-- amazing!!! poor Hugo's gonna have to find another line of work
Laid off due to automation.. poor Hugo.. hahahha
What I would love to see is a video where you fix a city in pause mode, so the city is at 5 or 6 percent or something, you pause the game and fix everything, and than un-pause the game and let us watch the traffic sorting itself out, going up to 80 percent or so. would be great!
Yeah!
Guys, remember to plan your intersections, one of the biggest problems that causes traffics are too close intersections or too few intersections, because then everybody converge to the few that you have.
BIFFA PLEASE READ THIS!!!
21:50 You shoudln't do that as people coming from the single lane (red node) cannot exit at the next junction!!
You can see at 22:03 the cars despawning because they can't exit at the junction...
Under no circumstances do you want traffic trying to lane change across multiple lanes at once. Yet another reason for keeping your number of lanes down to the bare minimum and giving yourself lots of nodes between junctions. What Biffa did works perfectly fine on a highway with only two lanes.
@@dlwatib yep, with two lanes it's fine, he either needs another node or to downgrade the lanes
You're right that the entrance lane from the left side cannot get to the exit lane on the right side.
But that should be by design when you decide that the entrance lane is from the left side. You see, traffic jams happen because of cars slowing down to switch lanes. By designing the entrance ramp to be on the left side, you are telling the cars that you shouldn't be using the highway for just one exit.
Now, Biffa should have made sure that the cars that were despawning at the entrance ramp actually have another path through the city to get to where they want to.
You really don't want cars to use your highways for just one exit.
its fine. its only a problem when he changes it. after the change has been made, cars will choose the correct lane earlier.
@@mauritsofferman4291 By despawning?
22:03 you didn’t give the red line an option to turn right
I came here to say the same thing.
oh snap i'm late. i replied that to his pinned comment ;)
In the junctions, the slip-lane to go onto the highway comes before the slip-lane to go off the highway. Wouldn't swapping those two around solve some of the cross-over?
in real life you will always have the one going off first and then the merge afterwards at a junction. there is something called the weaving length that is needed after a merge to the next diverge. not sure how the game algorithm works but seems like its not liking having the gap between 2 junctions small.
Ctrl S filling in while Hugo is social distancing. Great Vid Biffa - I'll be honest I didn't think 80 % would be possible! Watching your CS vids is always a treat (with tea of course!). Thanks for uploading even in these strange times. Stay safe!
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Lmao rip the people waiting for the buses one of the lines had about 500 people waiting and Biffa came and reduced the buses by half 😂😭😭
Everyone! This is why we need Basic Income. Poor Hugo; his job has been replaced by automation. What's next, Giddy Aunt loses her health insurance?
When you pull the node hold Alt in move it! The bend in the road will align itself. Beautiful curves and straight roads are obtained easily and quickly.
Looking at 1:45 one quick solution is to add a connecting highway up north.
That way the cars that are just passing by don't have to clog up the city and people can easily move from both ends.
F B this
For the love of all that is Holy. demo that entire highway system through that city and redo it. I have never seen such a disaster.
The biggest problem was the fact that there was no highway bypassing the city. Everyone who was driving through had to drive through the busy middle. Also, using highway roads for roundabouts destroys the sidewalks, so people have to drive even if they're just going shopping two blocks down.
weetikissa If your highway system can’t handle dummy traffic on top of your local traffic then you’re running almost at capacity anyway. A good highway system won’t need a bypass.
Shaw Fujikawa There is always traffic going through from one end of the map to the other without interacting with your city. You should always route that traffic around your city or you will suffer from unnecessary noise pollution and traffic problems.
Isn't that the map that ConflictNerd had Dorchester on?
yes. This is the map the city is built on: steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1704568425
In real life I've seen them handle two junctions too close together having the on and off ramps overlap so that the second junction's off ramps are before the first junction's on ramps, eliminating the need for them to be changing lanes and getting in each others' way. I've found it helps to stop traffic having to cross each other.
Also I've started experimented with guided bus/trolleybusways that run parallel to the main highways in my city so that express buses can get around not use the highways so that _if_ the traffic does go down the drain buses can still get around.
Otherwise known as a 'basket weave". It works quite well in many situations. It's also boatloads safer since it eliminates a weave zone.
@Dave Dirt Take a look at this one: www.google.com/maps/@53.5243331,-2.358146,16.75zJunction numbers are identified by black squares and it's the UK so left hand drive and we're starting from the right hand side of the screen on the M60. Junction 14's off ramps diverge just after J15's off ramps and before its on ramps merge, and then the carriageways run in parallel to the motorway until the actual junction at the A580 further south. There's also M61 J2 just off to the west which is similar.
Sounds like a cool idea.
I could tell the moment you discovered CTRL-S on a highway on-ramp you were excited. Isn't that an awesome time saver? #RIPHugo I discovered that totally by accident after switching from TM:PE STABLE to TM:PE LABS.
26:30 This is by far the steepest bridge i've ever seen in this game! 😂😂😂
@ 26:40 We watch a truck clipping into the bridge coming down so close to the highway beneath that only a snake could get under it.
Man! That traffic is almost as long as the lines for the registers at the store!
Keep up the awesome content Biffa! Its a breath of fresh air in these times.
they wanted to go shopping
I think a big part was the trains not moving as this will increase traffic. I would have fixed that first. I like most of your traffic fixes, but I like a strong mass transit and enough pedestrian bridges... then I worry about traffic.
I don't bother using any buses. If you get traffic issues, buses just make it even worse. People will stop using them and you end up with huge vehicles that just makes things worse. Metro can serve any city much better, all it needs is to not be on main road or have a road with extra lane that you ensure with connectors there is no way to get on that line (only those using metro or going in buildings will use that line).
@@petrgrebenicek1067 I used to avoid them and just use subways, butt hey are glitched in Sunset Harbor right now (or not behaving with a must have mod as I stripped down to about 5 must have mods and it was still there). I used trolleybuses. I am not sure what the difference between the busses and trolley are, but a well laid out trolly line will cut you traffic way down... and the Inter city bus stations can significantly cut traffic coming into the city.
I wonder the same thing I noticed a huge spike in traffic after Sunset came out but didn't' catch the metro not working until after I sent this to Biffa. It does help with the traffic a fair bit.
Didnt played after the sunset, but what I did was to ban cars commoning from outside to city and forced them to take slip line leading to metro station.
I had huge cyrcle of metro around my districts, that was somewhere connected to internal district cycles. Those internal/external metro conections had no road connections. Plus they had to walk through park, using mix of roads and higways to control pedestian paths and banning private cars, had to build extra services there.
All my trafics was trucks. Trains are expensive. Metro was making profit.
To be more specific:
As you go on highway into city you have to take slipline to right and get out of car, go through park to get to metro, all services were build at that small spot.
If you wanted to exit the city you took metro to that station, walked through park and walked over highway on pathway to get to another slipline going out of city. Those guys have dimensional pockets where they carry a car so why not abuse it.
Biffa is way too willing to work with all those spaghetti roads. I would've bulldozed everything and rebuilt from scratch.
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"That's idiotic."
And I concur.
The moment when you are so early, your vote does still change the numbers
Brad Lovin
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I think this really matters to some people, that must be why there are 8 down votes on this video.
Some people just want to know they exist, lol
When you're so early that the traffic is still moving before Biffa even fixes it.
Brad Lovin all videos should start with 8 downvotes for privacy reasons.
19:01 it's KM/H not MPH, if you want it to be MPH then go to the settings of TM:PE, (30KM/H = 20MPH and 100KM/H = 60MPH)
This. My immediate reaction: *"AAAHHHH TOO FAST"*
No-mod, Console player here. I liked that reverse roundabout interchange they used. I think I will try it out.
My road has no nodes
How does it smell?
Terrible
hahhaha.. healthy body system humor
I've actually found some older versions of TMPE and certain mods actually cause the problem where all cars force their way to the inside lanes and then try to all take the same exits, even if it means going through most of town instead of going to the next exit. Then you have the problem where some vehicles use the exit to circle only to get right back on the highway, even when slower speeds are used on the exit/circle.
I wish my road system looked that good 😂
Lol... I am shocked that you actually went through all of that. I would have nuked that middle junction and about half of those roundabouts. It was very nice looking spaghetti, but spaghetti nonetheless.
Can you make a mountain area? Like in gta! I like the concept of a GTA Kind of Housing area on the hills. And get dome recourse pack for hollywood signs ya know? Cool!
Like so he sees this!!
Traffic Manager should implement a Ctrl-B setting to set it up as Biffa wants it set up.
"Welcome to a new video, Ctrl+B. Thanks for watching."
@@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines Hm. Yeah, OK, I was thinking of roundabouts, mostly. :-)
I remember watching you when I was about 10 and I've come back as a 13 yo and its still satisfying as ever to watch you fix entire cities
Honestly, that junctions spaghetti could all be turned into a turbo interchange or set of turbo interchanges, or even a big oblongabout or big roundabout. Making the speed of the roundabout higher than the speed of the roads going into the roundabout also helps slightly.
Nice finally I get something to watch. You are the best Citieskyline player in TH-cam great job #GStrolling
Thank you Garvit Sharma Studio :-)
This is the map where Dorkchester was buildt!
Who's watching ConfluctNerd too?
Another video ye! ♥️ Roundabout besides a roundabout is --.
I love the look of this city, compliments to whoever created it (I know that Biffa gets submissions and he told us the possible name), and Biff, YOU ARE A FREAKIN GENIOUS!!!
Biffa, I spent 7 hours watching your fix-it videos yesterday. They're damn-near therapeutic. Gave a Like for each one. I need to start up a new city one of these days. Keep up the great work!
Figured out the ultimate traffic solution! Allow double-decking on the ONE LEFT LANE THAT ALL THE CIMS HAVE TO USE!!!! AGGGGGHHH!!!! Sorry, just emotionally scarred from the way the AI *must* keep using that blasted left lane, come hell or high water!
I had the console version but I just got a pc and with the mods now its finna be great. I love building highway interchanges idk why
Finally found someone that loves roundabout more than you, Biffa!
22:03 you made it so people joining on the outside lane cant take the exit!!!
Why ist this more interesting to me than every single one of my lectures?
man and i thought i was bad with 75-82 average traffic xd
i just wonder why cars just go in 1 lane when there are 3 lanes to choose from since you can just merge whenever they want
They look forward to the exit they're interested in, find the lane they need to use that, and get into it as soon as possible. I think there is a mod that improves that a bit, but if they're in the wrong lane, they'll just block that one when they finally need to change, and the drivers of the100 cars waiting in line to use that exit are gonna be... miffed... at this queue jumper. :)
this city does look very beautiful, where can I download it along with all the required mods to try to fix it myself? I can't find a link for this one.
I'll try an remember to find a link for you when I get home but the city is Sixton on the steam store and the mods list is included there also. I'd love to see what you do with it!
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@@Andy85H thank you!! hopefully it works on my game, i always have problems with mods
CurrField it should however I ended up removing some mods to clear up some crashing. If it gives you trouble let me know and I'll pull a new mod list
I can't get it to work, discovered the "download all" and "enable all" but with no success. please clean it up maybe that works better. I wonder how Biffa got it to work.
Edit: for the rest I have unsubbed from every workshop item I had so that's no issue.
Edit: I don't have any DLC, do I need some?
That's the nicest city ive seen here. Compact, good design, good layout.
Thanks:)
The setting reminds me of Interlaken in Switzerland.
Ctrl+S changes everything!
I think creator of this city has put so many buses on each line because there were stops with over 100 people waiting. There were some stops with over 200 people. It happens when the line is new or when the whole city is stuck in jams. The easiest way to get rid of all these people, apart from deleting the line of course, is to have so many buses that they will pickup all these people and going back to low bus numbers after some time. Now, after setting these numbers to reasonable numbers, they will wait for an empty seat in a bus forever and that's not healthy ;)
It's actually my city. What happened is I read 20/20 spots as full not 20 spots free out of 20. So I added more. Just prior to sunset harbor there was actually a fair bit of usage but I didn't notice the metro thing until after i sent this to biffa (learned about the right angles from another of his videos)
At 22:04, with the lane merging that you've added, can cars coming from the joining lane from the right actually get off the junction heading upwards?
Looks like you're possibly about to do the same at 22:50, where the green line coming from the right won't be able to switch to the upper-most lane to leave the highway
The roundabout. I saw eyes.
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* X files them song plays *
just when i was bored you posted this video thanks Biffa.
You're welcome :-)
Here's a tip: I've you got two junctions that are too closer to each other, and both junctions connect to the same area, then cross-over the entrance and exit ramps of the junctions, so that the exit of the first junction comes after the entrance of the second junction, and vice versa. That way the traffic leaving the highway do not have to contend with the traffic entering.
Did the Cntrl S function just kill Hugo?
Hi, Biffa! You are a traffic control for every cities
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Hi, Ben! You are a nasty bellend
after playing 10 hours, lets watch biffa for another hour
I love how Biffa can find solutions and help for every city!
Hopefully Biffa will fix my City with around 200K people.
Traffic is mad, even with roundabouts and TP:ME Mod
Filled in the form, now waiting for Master Biffa help.
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Wow, Biffa. What. A. City! 😳😆 I have NEVER seen metro tunnels like these! 😆 And those highways! 😩😆 I don't envy you, Biffa! 😆 It's also occurred to me that you take a swig of tea when you have to take on a difficult task like someone has to take a swig of liquor to give them the strength to carry it out! ☕😆 Good video, looking forward to seeing more, thanks. By the way, out of a sense of mischief, I referred that Fort Lowell map you referred in your top assets to Bon Bon b for him to review. He gave it a good rating if you have the time to check it out. 😏😌 Take care...
Traffic in cities skylines has made me stop playing the game so many times then I found biffa's channel around when industries came out and now I can actually play the game. My cities hover around 80-90% traffic nowadays.
would you mind doing a city fix in vanilla again?
New respect for you doing these.....just did the built in scenario of this in the game and got very annoyed when fixing one section would break a section I had just fixed or finding a lone random traffic light after removing them all that broke everything. Managed it though using what you do in these.
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Can I recommend Elektrix's Road Tools 2.91, it allows you to place and remove nodes onto roads without having to add and delete roads off them.
When first seeing the city, I was clearly expecting you to destroy many intersection... But the power of lane mathematics and Hugo There (and also some ingenuity) prevailed! This was not an easy one, congrats!
1:33 this absolutely screams for a new highway "above" the city (from the camera's perspective), adding new connections to the top two districts.
The speed limit is in kmilomiters per hour
Regarding the funny thing with spawning trucks on train tracks:
Passenger cars have people spawn first, walk a bit, and then take the cars out of the pockets. Cargo trucks don't. Passenger trains do the same thing. Cargo trains have trucks spawn first, then get "loaded" onto the trains (like they would be in train stations).
It's just the solution that the developers went with, for some reason.
I think this is my favorite fix of your most recent ones! I would have had no idea where to start on this. It didn't look like you made a whole lot of changes ...you worked with what was there. I like the look of this city too, with the dam and all.
I've literally never been so happy to see so much traffic.
Directly the first seconds: When the traffic is so bad, its faster to walk down the highway xD
F Hugo. Enjoy retirement!
Biffa is .... Inevitable
11:03 aaaaaaa no more Hugo There
10:38 And that, friends, is the sound if Biffa's mind being blown. lol
This new metro in the sunset harbor is wreaking people’s game! Any suggestions Biffa?
Juntian Wei Really? Mine is turning a profit and traffic is keeping above 75% in my 25k city
Yes, I did a video on it, Search a few back on my channel :-)
That damn is sick
Going back and taking notes cause my 10k population city is at 15% traffic. WITH CAR-DISAPPEARING TURNED ON 😭😭😭
(I turned realistic population on after the city started 😬)
I'm a truck driver and have been since 2005, so while watching you fix this is fun and informative...I really don't think I'd have made such a problem to begin with. I mean COME ON those road junctions were just horrendous! But I've only been playing this game like 3 days now, so we'll see. 😉
Just make other routes.
Well, this just confirms that if I want to fix my own traffic I really do have to completely rework an industry area. LOL Cargo train terminal is too close! But I also have horrendous train traffic because of it and it's kind of clogging up my regular network so I also need to figure that out or... just start a fresh city with lessons learned. Hahahahaha Which I might do because even though I'm excited to finally have a city over 70k, I'm also having a lot of regrets on certain choices I made and not realizing for example how big some of the park buildings are (and not leaving enough room), so to do what I want means starting over anyways. Fresh start, fresh chance to muck it all up. :D
Beijing, China: August 2010. 62-mile long traffic jam that lasted for an incredible 12 days. Took 3 days to go 62 miles
I'm a new follower. Starting playing city skylines a few years ago. I just started playing much more than before. However I'm on the xbox and I don't have that many mods to play with. But your videos have perfected many of my cities. However my cities still get congested when I get to 40k people. I use lots of highways and I watch how close my junctions are. I just can't perfect any of them after a certain amount of people. Pc looks like you have ALOT more benefits with mods.
Biffa? Thank you. I love your channel so much.
Also ... I laughed so hard at this moment. th-cam.com/video/WGEWgrb9eY0/w-d-xo.html I felt it. I felt it like a cold sippa-tea. LOL
This reminds me of where I live, Saint Petersburg. The other day I was driving my family back from a weekend out of town. The drive out of town was 3 hours, the drive back into town was 8 hours. I'm sure if we were a Cities: Skylines map, it would be backing up right to the edge of the map just like here.
JIC you're curious, there's this collector road that leads into the city, one lane each direction, and there are just boatloads upon boatloads of people coming back from weekend trips like ourselves, so the whole road grid grinds to a halt. Oh, and there's ~10 km's worth of road reconstruction here and there.
Thanks for all your videos. I just started to play 2 weeks ago and my city is nearly 50k with 75% traffic (arround 5k in public transport). Just by applying the famous "line mathematic" and few other tricks. Thank you !
Omg. Hugo comes back in the last episode and we're all happy.... Then ctrl+s kills him again. Haha boo. RIP Hugo, we'll miss you.
I'm upset that vanilla PS4 has so little tools that you have access to. I have some bad areas of traffic (not a totally bad number, floating between 67%-71%), mostly because I've been able to implement a lot of the "Maths" I've learned from your videos. I just wish I had access to Traffic Manager and 4 lane one way roads.
EDIT: nevermind, exactly when I decided to tell you, you discovered it by yourself. :)))
Hey Biffa. Got a trick for you that you might enjoy, nothing big, but it will help you do the lanes much easier with the traffic manager.
So, whenever you're doing lane maths, and you must select the lanes where the cars are entering the highway, instead of going by each lane, you can do the Shift+S trick, and because the lane maths are done, it will do the job.
Hope you'll see this and also hope this helps. I for sure know you helped me along the way to build more efficient cities.
Stay safe!
I was building my city when traffic got bad. It was on like 40%. I stopped building for 2 hours and used the time to use the things I learned here. Now I've got 70% and 70000 citizens, Bad traffic only is in industrial area.
ELEKTRIX’S ROAD TOOLS BIFFA! You don’t have to destroy buildings to add a node!
Please for godsake get Improved public transport 2.0 and change the value of your normal buses from 30 to 75. you don't need billion buses. only 9 to 10 buses will be enough.