2:22 "Ton of feedback though, you can feel every pebble on the road." That's just Miata steering for you. Even with power steering, the feedback is insane. The car really communicates with you. It's part of what makes it so goddamn fun to drive.
Totally Legit Gaming [TLEG] it's because of the hydraulic steering rack! Even my NC has it. That, coupled with my stage one suspension (Tokico HTS shocks and flyin miata springs) makes the car feel like it's on rails. I'm putting on a cosworth supercharger some time in the next year 👌🏼
There is still a big difference in feel between the two racks. I’ve had 3 94R package cars with the manual rack and an 95M edition with the power. The power rack makes the car feel more nimble but jumpier, I can take the turns but I have less confidence in the actual amount of grip. More faith based compared to the manual rack. You know what you’ve got at all times. It’s much harder to auto-x the manual rack as the ratio is different.
OMG they aren't perfectly comparable. They don't have the same tires. They don't have the same oil. They don't have the same floormats. They're not running the same shift knob. We, the TH-cam community, demand a randomized double blind placebo control study. It's ok, we'll wait.
1. Great video. 2. Greater cars and builds by both teams. 3. Greatest track car ever! 4. From personal experience, biggest difference is Reliability. At the track, you will spend more time in the garage wrenching your turbo while listening to the superchargers whine on the track!
I completely disagree. A properly designed turbo kit wont need any maintenance. Mine has been issue free for over 2 years. They are very simple and not alot of failure points
I’d gladly trade away 15 hp for the smooth, linear power delivery of a roots blower. Dealing with nonlinear turbo spool in a SWB car like a Miata would get frustrating.
Thats because people still buy shitty turbos. Got myself a Borg Warner EFR 6758 on a build 2 Litre VVT MK 2.5. 370 HP on the engine and its running linear as fuck.
They already did a K swap Civic vs modern Type R Civic. They also did an Integra Type R vs modern Type R and a turbo Civic vs Modern Type R. TL;DW: Modern Type R is faster, but all other Hondas have VTEC, higher rev limiter, and more fun to drive. The K swap Civic gets nearly as good performance on the track as the 10th gen Civic Type R.
I think this is a good illustration of the difference of mentalities between setups. The NA probably has faster times in it but I think I would still want to drive the NB. For me it's all about the feel and the ease.
Even a stock Miata is fun as hell to drive. A friend let me borrow one for about a month. It was unfortunately automatic but still fun to drive. They handle well and even with a small power plant they are fairly quick. I think the price of the newer ones is getting a little out of control however.
Loving those fender vents 😍 Would be great to watch a decent length video showing how to go about setting up shocker and ride height settings at the track. Back to back tests after changes etc.
@@chanmanthegreat1429 years late to this, but even being 5'8 170lb and size 9 shoe, it is difficult. Mainly my knee pressing into the steering wheel when I try to rotate my foot. Still a blast to drive though :)
Lightweight track car I go supercharger, ultimately they are usually slower but more enjoyable to me. They can be built so differently that I would have both if I could.
The NA was probably a depowered steering rack which is a powersteering rack with all the power components removed. Definitely an acquired taste, but once you get used to it you can sling it around like a powersteering car.
Race prepped R32s GT-R vs GT-ST. Extra weight in GT-r vs 4 wheel drive. Maybe kinda interesting. Supra vs GT-ST. 944 vs Miata. Triumph vs MG. 350z vs tiburon.
Obviously a tuned lancer vs tuned subie could be nice. But it might be more interesting and unique to see a comparison between a tuned lotus evora vs the electric evora we have seen on your channel couple of times. Ls swap porsche vs flat six porsche track battle would be great too!
old school Track Ready, Mitsubishi DSM (Talon,Eclipse,Galant vr4, etc) vs a Late model track packaged, performance car. example, 2018 Mustang with level 2 track pack vs 400HP AWD Eagle Talon.
The only thing compatible is he name of the car everything else was so different. But not a bad estimate on what the cars might actually hit with more seat time
generally when i hear supercharger wine i know the car is probably running 7-9 lbs of boost so you know what you’re up against. when its turbo you’ll never know.
No power steering is great once you're used to it, bump steers a lot more than with power steering(at least in my car), but I feel like it's made me a better driver
only problem is there different models of the miata, the newer one makes more power not because of the super charger or whatever but because it just does from factory
AFX Gaming both 1.8s, would be the same engine if it’s a nb1 and not a nb2. Even if it is a nb2 the hp difference is less than 10hp it’s just vvt that makes the difference for the most part
Bowtie shootout? Cobalt SS(preferably turbo) vs Camaros vs C4/C5. Totally different cars, but let's just see how the cars were modded and what the laptimes are.
![Turbocharged Vs Supercharged - Part 4 [Skid Pan Battle]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/w359Y9c25dc/mqdefault.jpg)
2:22 "Ton of feedback though, you can feel every pebble on the road." That's just Miata steering for you. Even with power steering, the feedback is insane. The car really communicates with you. It's part of what makes it so goddamn fun to drive.
Totally Legit Gaming [TLEG] it's because of the hydraulic steering rack! Even my NC has it. That, coupled with my stage one suspension (Tokico HTS shocks and flyin miata springs) makes the car feel like it's on rails. I'm putting on a cosworth supercharger some time in the next year 👌🏼
There is still a big difference in feel between the two racks. I’ve had 3 94R package cars with the manual rack and an 95M edition with the power.
The power rack makes the car feel more nimble but jumpier, I can take the turns but I have less confidence in the actual amount of grip. More faith based compared to the manual rack. You know what you’ve got at all times. It’s much harder to auto-x the manual rack as the ratio is different.
OMG they aren't perfectly comparable.
They don't have the same tires.
They don't have the same oil.
They don't have the same floormats.
They're not running the same shift knob.
We, the TH-cam community, demand a randomized double blind placebo control study. It's ok, we'll wait.
Charlie Bui. Right? I mean, they aren't even the same color or have the same number of stickers. Who do they think they are fooling?
Charlie Bui yeah look the black car is clearly at a huge disadvantage because its rocker cover isn't painted.
Can't forget that the green car is running synthetic blinker fluid while the black car isn't. At least half second there.
To be honest.... if you think tires don't make a difference... you're lying to yourself.
Charlie Bui they're not even the same gen💤
Next turbo S2000 Vs Supercharged S2000!
VEDEM RACING Yeah! Badass 2000 turbo versus the Engineering Explained SC S2000 would be cool!
The True would be great to see!
VEDEM RACING supercharged wins every time. Reach VTEC first. It’s like, watching a movie after knowing the ending
WAy overdue and still over due!
There would be no difference. The same applies as the Miata and S2000 have the same race characteristics.
The supercharger is like having a mosquito in your ear lmao
Sam 😂😂😂
Big facts
Weeeeee
Seriously.. it’s so annoying
Its not when you drive it
Fd vs fc definetly. Nice rotary battle is always good.
Or REW swapped RX-8 vs FD.
re amemiya rx7 vs rocket bunny rx7 vs veilside rx7
@@asian_attack_helicopter102 all shit
1. Great video.
2. Greater cars and builds by both teams.
3. Greatest track car ever!
4. From personal experience, biggest difference is Reliability. At the track, you will spend more time in the garage wrenching your turbo while listening to the superchargers whine on the track!
I completely disagree. A properly designed turbo kit wont need any maintenance. Mine has been issue free for over 2 years. They are very simple and not alot of failure points
I’d gladly trade away 15 hp for the smooth, linear power delivery of a roots blower. Dealing with nonlinear turbo spool in a SWB car like a Miata would get frustrating.
Thats because people still buy shitty turbos. Got myself a Borg Warner EFR 6758 on a build 2 Litre VVT MK 2.5. 370 HP on the engine and its running linear as fuck.
What do you mean stock 1.6 miatas don't make power till 3.5k anyways lol
That noise is hella annoying though
@@PapaFujiwara 3.5k? So just after high idle who cares about that with little powerplants that rev past 7k
And here come the turbo fanbois
LS Swap Miata vs Corvette. I am curious what gen Corvette would be equivalent to a Miata with an LS.
at least a c5
great idea, would love to see this
definitely interested in seeing this
LS Miata = 4/5 Viper
None it weighs 1k less. Hp/wt. It's why after half a century the AC cobra is still relevant.
I'm not normally in favor of the sound of superchargers (although I like how they perform), but this supercharger sounds kick-ass!
That green miata is very well built! Beautiful ride
Fox body vs Modern mustang? Track civic vs modern civic?
They already did a K swap Civic vs modern Type R Civic. They also did an Integra Type R vs modern Type R and a turbo Civic vs Modern Type R.
TL;DW: Modern Type R is faster, but all other Hondas have VTEC, higher rev limiter, and more fun to drive. The K swap Civic gets nearly as good performance on the track as the 10th gen Civic Type R.
put a turbo on that kswap civic and its leaving the type r in the DUST
Miata vs MR2
I think this is a good illustration of the difference of mentalities between setups. The NA probably has faster times in it but I think I would still want to drive the NB. For me it's all about the feel and the ease.
Very cool. I just think the supercharger whine although fun to hear, would get old pretty quickly.
Sure the cars are very different, however they have something very common: 650cc injectors from TorontoInjectors :)
Do you guys have 1000cc or larger? Something suitable for e85?
@@EditsUnlimited Hi, sure we do have. 1000cc direct fit flow matched set gor Miata www.torontoinjectors.com/product-page/mazda-miata-1000cc-injectors
Everyone saying the supercharger is cooler but it sounds waaaaaay annoying
yeah the exhaust note is awful too
Here here!
Supercharger whine is an acquired taste, and some sound better than others. This was particularly whiny. And as stated, the exhaust note was awful.
Well yea ive heard plenty of superchargers but this thing is awful, pissed off cat or something
Superchargers only sound good where they belong. On a V8
Suggestion : you guys should do a video comparing lap times of light weight wheels vs heavy . or square tire setup vs staggered ! just a suggestion .
Tyre Reviews have done similar tests to that in pretty comparable settings: th-cam.com/video/Bgz0qF3CuNA/w-d-xo.html
So when's the badass2000 going to get a supercharger??
Love when you guys do track battles!
That supercharger is squealing louder than Ned Beatty in "Deliverance"...
Even a stock Miata is fun as hell to drive. A friend let me borrow one for about a month. It was unfortunately automatic but still fun to drive. They handle well and even with a small power plant they are fairly quick. I think the price of the newer ones is getting a little out of control however.
I approve of this video. Great job, guys.
Good video man , very fun to watch.
Good to see the guys back on the track
Loving those fender vents 😍
Would be great to watch a decent length video showing how to go about setting up shocker and ride height settings at the track. Back to back tests after changes etc.
Legend has it, he’s still driving that track trying to decide between Turbo and Supercharger
that whine. id have to go the supercharged card.
This will be interesting, mine is also Black, also around 240 wheel with a 7200 limit
The turbo Blow of valve is jizz!
"not a lot of room for heel and toe"
Well you won't want brake and gas miles apart from each other
Not all of us have little girl hipster feet though friend. Some of us men aren't 5'8 120 pounds with a frappe latte.
@@Rollincoal311 i cant heel toe in my miata, i have size 13 shoe and my foot gets stuck when i try and turn it sideways
@@chanmanthegreat1429 years late to this, but even being 5'8 170lb and size 9 shoe, it is difficult. Mainly my knee pressing into the steering wheel when I try to rotate my foot. Still a blast to drive though :)
I'd watch miata or k swap content from you guys all day, everyday
WE NEED THE FRS VS S2000
god damn I really like that NA
Great video, learned a bit about Miatas!
Lol “sorry mom” best thing I’ve seen in a long time
Lightweight track car I go supercharger, ultimately they are usually slower but more enjoyable to me. They can be built so differently that I would have both if I could.
After watching your 5-Day (8-Day) Civic build, and inspiring me to get another Civic, I feel like we need some more FF track cars on the channel!
great video and awesome cars guys! sending you some love from Windermere, Florida USA ✌
Loving the pop-up headlight NACA duct on the NA!
Great vid! Very fun to watch! I would definitely like to see more battles. E36 vs E46 and/or E46 vs E92 would be interesting.
Great review! I'm jonesin' for the day I have a supercharger on my Miata!
Lotus elise vs alfa romeo 4c
Awesome, I'm all for more stuff like this!
Man you're driving the turbo Miata like Gran Turismo 2
Want more of the yellow LS FD.
I would love to see a turbo ka 240sx vs a supercharged ka 240sx, that would be so cool. You never see ka builds anymore
nice and perfect track battle, wanna see the V6 swap in that same mix
''whoa those are surprisingly two different cars'' well one is a NB and the other is an NA ....
I would diss Pirelli, super expensive tires that don't deliver on performance. From street to track tires.
I bet you can't get a Chevy Vega vs a Gremlin.
Oh how I miss the days when a racecar vs racecar comparison actually involves racing the cars...
I love your maniacal laugh at 2:20 😂 pure excitement sound.
The turbo in the nb car is the right combo! The na was at a disadvantage from the start even though the generations were almost the same.
The NA was probably a depowered steering rack which is a powersteering rack with all the power components removed. Definitely an acquired taste, but once you get used to it you can sling it around like a powersteering car.
Nice driving my man!
Wow that supercharger is loud! But in all seriousness for a real comparison they should be running the same tires.
Rear wheel drive turbo van track battle.
Cheers!
NBs look soo nice!
Ariel-Atom-ization of an NB! Very interesting comparo...
This is what im doin to my miata when im older
Golf Mk3 VR6 VS Golf Mk3 GTI 16, understeering contest !
2nd !!! Love your vids, always enjoy watching Canadian content !
miata with supercharged sounds so cute! consider miata is cute car~ :3
That supercharged one sounded like a box full of bees
Race prepped R32s GT-R vs GT-ST. Extra weight in GT-r vs 4 wheel drive. Maybe kinda interesting. Supra vs GT-ST. 944 vs Miata. Triumph vs MG. 350z vs tiburon.
Mk3 supra vs mk4 supra
More track battles! Love it!!!
Obviously a tuned lancer vs tuned subie could be nice. But it might be more interesting and unique to see a comparison between a tuned lotus evora vs the electric evora we have seen on your channel couple of times. Ls swap porsche vs flat six porsche track battle would be great too!
Great video!
I loved the dash in the NA miata.
The driver kept talking about the gearing differences, but, if they are running stock transmissions, then one care is a 5 speed and the other is a 6.
Great vid! Raj seems like an Indian-Canadian Wayne from Wayne’s World. Party time excellent.
You really need to be smoother on your inputs. You can probably unleash an extra 3-5% more grip if your smoother!
MP62 isn't a "screw" type supercharger. it's just a old "root" type. the internals are different.
old school Track Ready, Mitsubishi DSM (Talon,Eclipse,Galant vr4, etc) vs a Late model track packaged, performance car.
example, 2018 Mustang with level 2 track pack vs 400HP AWD Eagle Talon.
the tubo sound sounds so much better than the supercharger BUT the rx7 with V8 kills everything ^^
I want those fender vents on my NA
The only thing compatible is he name of the car everything else was so different. But not a bad estimate on what the cars might actually hit with more seat time
Ohh my i love this battle😃😃👍
generally when i hear supercharger wine i know the car is probably running 7-9 lbs of boost so you know what you’re up against. when its turbo you’ll never know.
Seem like a blast to drive!
Any BMW 5-series E60, preferably diesel VS any other type of 5-series
I myself have a supercharged NB and I highly doubt the whine this one is making is normal. This is really loud compared to mine
Enjoyed the video. Makes me want to modify a Miata someday.
I would like to see a Corvette vs Shelby Mustang
No power steering is great once you're used to it, bump steers a lot more than with power steering(at least in my car), but I feel like it's made me a better driver
only problem is there different models of the miata, the newer one makes more power not because of the super charger or whatever but because it just does from factory
AFX Gaming both 1.8s, would be the same engine if it’s a nb1 and not a nb2. Even if it is a nb2 the hp difference is less than 10hp it’s just vvt that makes the difference for the most part
What are you on about? The newer one makes less power here.
Driveway Developments as far as im aware the newer miatas make more power, it's not a whole lot more though
AFX Gaming less than 5, I’ve been beat by a bone stock na6 in my stock nb2 before doesn’t really matter
AFX Gaming the na has an Nb motor...pay attention the owner explained that.
Love that supercharger whine.....
anything vs the 911 turbo. Need more of that car actually moving and making noises.
that super wind would get old fast
S13 vs S14 track battle!!
knew this was at cayuga right away when i saw the stands behind you lol
Bowtie shootout? Cobalt SS(preferably turbo) vs Camaros vs C4/C5. Totally different cars, but let's just see how the cars were modded and what the laptimes are.
can you find any hot hatches to race? the new ford focus rs or fiesta vs a golf or suburu
@speedacademy !! Great video! How about CTSV vs Charger/Challenger? CTSV vs the world?
It would be awesome to see a battle between Dc2 vs ek9, both with a k-series motor
Great video.
would be interested in seeing a mustang vs vette, something like a gt350 vs either the new grandsport or z06
Track battle is a good idea, Can we get a K eg vs B eg civic?
yaaaasss speedacademyyyyyy
I'm a super huge fan of the supercharger on the miatas!!!
Track video after soooo long
Do an AE86 vs. AW11 or enginewise 2ZZ-GE vs. 4A-GE 20V ... show some Toyota love