Steve those leaks are the possible reason that control relay went bad. Sad that she did not get those leaks fixed . If the control relay goes bad again it will be a call back on you. I hope you documented that the water leaks could cause electrical issues and motor issues. Writing down customer declined repairs .I enjoy your videos . Keep up the great work!
Hey Steve, maybe an idea for a new vlog is to talk about how you keep track of customers (database?) and their payments and maybe if there's been any dead beats in the past?
Hate to be cheeessy, well maybe I strive to be.. But why check the cad cell if the motor dosen't even start to begin with? Dosen't the flame or lack of kill the motor with Cad Cell? So it needs to be firing to be checked as a cad cell problem right?
If the cad cell is bad it will prevent the relay from allowing the burner to start.. alternatively he could have just pulled one off the cad cell wires off the ff on the control and if it started it’s a cad cell if not then it’s the control but a cad cell can definitely prevent a burner from firing
That motor will be seized soon. You can hear it straining. Not your fault, you informed the customer and that’s all you can do. At least you got her up and running again! Next level!
Question Sir? Ran out of fuel, Got fuel, Didn't restart. Changed the filter. Starts up but it's not drawing any fuel and wont fire. Nothing bleeds out. Tank is underground. Am I missing a step in priming the boiler? Should I fill the filter assembly with fuel? Thanks in advance.
My Beckett runs fine an I had it tuned and vacuumed. The relay keeps tripping boiler off and when I push the button to the relay boiler starts running perfectly for a while then later trips out again. Is it a bad relay? PS I changed the cad cell eye for a new one
Steven, i have an issue with a Beckett boiler (service man came and serviced it but wanted a ridiculous amount to change the igniter) so with your Videos i changed it myself today. It started and after 1min it shutoff and could not start again - any other suggestions? I was thinking of this video (change the Protector relay). I know its getting power so just confused now as what else can it be...
Used to work on down fired GE boilers and the heat from the chamber would melt and short the cad cell wires. I used to test them on a call by just removing one of the wires going to ff. If it started it was the cad cell. Otherwise it was the primary control.
What if there's absolutely no light on at all? Line typically there's the little red light indicator. Just tried to fire it up and no light, no start, no nothing.... Really need some help before i try to call
Drop the KNOWLEDGE Steve!! I had a guy replace my motor only to release after replacing it that it was a bad controller - you could have saved him time and me money... Love your Vids ... keep them coming.
oh man, i never could understand this thinking. When i called out a service call for my Boiler, i knew it needed a new Cad cell. I just was busy with work and couldnt find a place that would sell me less than 5 or 10 packs online. I do have a wood burner, so i was ok without oil heat for a few days if i could get a single. The tech diagnosed it, changed it and said i should also change out my filters and nozzle. Also, i had a valve that i knew was dripping that was to drain the line. I had planned on replacing it this spring when it warmed up. But, i already payed MR. HVAC Tech $150 just for the visit minimum 1hr and this was like 20min in. I handed him the parts and said go ahead and while your here change w/e u think needs done. He also ended up changing the fill valve and pressure release. I spent another $250 ontop but, the job is done, i dont need to make time to do it and i will not have to pay him another $150 if those valves take a shit before i get to them.
Steve-o, 👍 thumb-up for excellence service, but you could've ohmed the cad cell before changing it correct? And at the end of your video when you had inspected the boiler vent termination outside, you pointed out the combustion air opening for the boiler, isn't there a rule for minimum distance between mechanical exhaust and combustion air opening? We have a 6 feet rule for this..
Tighter than 2 coats of paint cost more in the long run. Instead of letting you change the motor while you were there now she will have to pay for another Service call. I told a customer of mine before her furnace was junk and needed to be replaced ASAP. She refused. She left for the weekend and came home to a house full of smoke and soot.
Mine keeps shutting off but after 20-30 minutes unlike that one where it’s shutting off instantly so im guessing its not the control and most likely the cat cell is getting dirty. Thanks for the video
Man I had that motor replaced. Same deal. Screatching sound then dead. The new motors are abit smaller. Perhaps more efficient. Will cost her more money to show up again to replace plus install. People just don't get it!
My oil furnace one day stopped working, doesn't start. Oil pressure ok. But I changed the oil filter and nozzle. Again oil pressure ok. Again oil furnace doesn't start. Check the spark it's ok. Again oil furnace won't start. Check the peephole to see if I’m getting spark, no spark. Replace the cad cell and transformer. But I get a spark when I took the nozzle/electrode out of the burner head. So I left the peephole open, guess what? The furnace started. This is completely the opposite of what the cad cell does. I double-check the cad cell, high resistance with no light, low resistance with light. Again cad cell is brand new. The oil furnace only starts with the peephole open, then I close the peephole and it runs great, very smooth. But won’t start up the next time the thermostats want heat on. What’s going on???
I thought I was seeing things when noticed water drips in the video while you were troubleshooting the boiler. Then you showed us the leaking high vent and back flow, etc. I’m not crazy
I watch a lot of your videos, you show your work but don’t teach much for beginners. For someone not ever working on these or working on them a little it’s hard to know why you do what you do or what sequence your checking or following. Good home video though but would be cool to hear you walk ppl through what your doing and why, would be super helpful.
A week from now your phone will ring and she'll say, " My boiler is making a loud screeching sound". I'd never leave that motor go like that if it were mine.
Who wouldn't fix a water leak while they have the HVAC guy there to fix it? Crazy. I can maybe understand the motor. It might run another 20 years but a leak is only going to get worse and worse.
People will ignore the problems and just limp along until it's no heat on a Saturday night at 11:00PM and then they're lucky to find somebody to come out. A little education of the customer by the tech on cause and effect (e.g: leaks fall on controls which ruins control which leaves customer without heat.) I always keep my burner in good shape and have essential spare parts to fit it.
Steve those leaks are the possible reason that control relay went bad. Sad that she did not get those leaks fixed . If the control relay goes bad again it will be a call back on you. I hope you documented that the water leaks could cause electrical issues and motor issues. Writing down customer declined repairs .I enjoy your videos . Keep up the great work!
Great video Steve, thanks! "I'll send you a check". Hate those words. Lol. Enjoy your Sunday!
Hey Steve, maybe an idea for a new vlog is to talk about how you keep track of customers (database?) and their payments and maybe if there's been any dead beats in the past?
The ole "Checks in the mail " routine ... Lol ... May have to turn the guard doggy loose on her ... Good troubleshooting vid ...
Steve, excellant video on repairing that control. Nice close up video with good instruction on how done.
Hate to be cheeessy, well maybe I strive to be.. But why check the cad cell if the motor dosen't even start to begin with? Dosen't the flame or lack of kill the motor with Cad Cell? So it needs to be firing to be checked as a cad cell problem right?
You can actually check the cad cell with a strong light and an ohmmeter. Alternatively, you can just jump the FF terminals on the primary.
If the cad cell is bad it will prevent the relay from allowing the burner to start.. alternatively he could have just pulled one off the cad cell wires off the ff on the control and if it started it’s a cad cell if not then it’s the control but a cad cell can definitely prevent a burner from firing
Thanks for another great video Steve
Hey Steve...do you have any videos ln Interburners?
That motor will be seized soon. You can hear it straining. Not your fault, you informed the customer and that’s all you can do. At least you got her up and running again! Next level!
Question Sir? Ran out of fuel, Got fuel, Didn't restart. Changed the filter. Starts up but it's not drawing any fuel and wont fire. Nothing bleeds out. Tank is underground. Am I missing a step in priming the boiler? Should I fill the filter assembly with fuel? Thanks in advance.
My Beckett runs fine an I had it tuned and vacuumed. The relay keeps tripping boiler off and when I push the button to the relay boiler starts running perfectly for a while then later trips out again. Is it a bad relay? PS I changed the cad cell eye for a new one
I've been waiting on this video for 3 months
In what situation would you need a power venter?
Good fix Steven. Needs some more work but cheap owner will wait until it cost's more to fix.
Steven, i have an issue with a Beckett boiler (service man came and serviced it but wanted a ridiculous amount to change the igniter) so with your Videos i changed it myself today. It started and after 1min it shutoff and could not start again - any other suggestions? I was thinking of this video (change the Protector relay). I know its getting power so just confused now as what else can it be...
Great repair Steve, hopefully she doesn’t wait too long to call you to fix the leaks and motor, the problems on that old system are stacking up.
Steve, how is your hearing? Could you not hear the buzzing noise?
I remember that power venter. You worked on that recently.
Used to work on down fired GE boilers and the heat from the chamber would melt and short the cad cell wires. I used to test them on a call by just removing one of the wires going to ff. If it started it was the cad cell. Otherwise it was the primary control.
What if there's absolutely no light on at all? Line typically there's the little red light indicator. Just tried to fire it up and no light, no start, no nothing.... Really need some help before i try to call
Drop the KNOWLEDGE Steve!! I had a guy replace my motor only to release after replacing it that it was a bad controller - you could have saved him time and me money... Love your Vids ... keep them coming.
Oh how I wish you were in my area!!!! I need a good plumber!!😥
Thanks for sharing Steve! Really enjoy your videos!
oh man, i never could understand this thinking. When i called out a service call for my Boiler, i knew it needed a new Cad cell. I just was busy with work and couldnt find a place that would sell me less than 5 or 10 packs online. I do have a wood burner, so i was ok without oil heat for a few days if i could get a single. The tech diagnosed it, changed it and said i should also change out my filters and nozzle. Also, i had a valve that i knew was dripping that was to drain the line. I had planned on replacing it this spring when it warmed up. But, i already payed MR. HVAC Tech $150 just for the visit minimum 1hr and this was like 20min in. I handed him the parts and said go ahead and while your here change w/e u think needs done. He also ended up changing the fill valve and pressure release. I spent another $250 ontop but, the job is done, i dont need to make time to do it and i will not have to pay him another $150 if those valves take a shit before i get to them.
Steve-o, 👍 thumb-up for excellence service, but you could've ohmed the cad cell before changing it correct?
And at the end of your video when you had inspected the boiler vent termination outside, you pointed out the combustion air opening for the boiler, isn't there a rule for minimum distance between mechanical exhaust and combustion air opening?
We have a 6 feet rule for this..
Tighter than 2 coats of paint cost more in the long run. Instead of letting you change the motor while you were there now she will have to pay for another Service call. I told a customer of mine before her furnace was junk and needed to be replaced ASAP. She refused. She left for the weekend and came home to a house full of smoke and soot.
Mine keeps shutting off but after 20-30 minutes unlike that one where it’s shutting off instantly so im guessing its not the control and most likely the cat cell is getting dirty. Thanks for the video
She saved some money now, she will have to spend more later.
Good Morning, Love Miss Molleys out fit. Thanks for the vidios..
Steve that place ain't no Taj Mahal. That system has leaks the motors ready to go out the pressure gauge doesn't work lol wow. Peace brother
Nice troubleshooting Steve. Are those Fluke test lead clips.?
yes fluke leads
Man I had that motor replaced. Same deal. Screatching sound then dead. The new motors are abit smaller. Perhaps more efficient. Will cost her more money to show up again to replace plus install. People just don't get it!
If she's a old lady on Social Security then there's a good chance she's just getting by and the repair you just did could set her back.
My oil furnace one day stopped working, doesn't start. Oil pressure ok. But I changed the oil filter and nozzle. Again oil pressure ok. Again oil furnace doesn't start. Check the spark it's ok. Again oil furnace won't start. Check the peephole to see if I’m getting spark, no spark. Replace the cad cell and transformer. But I get a spark when I took the nozzle/electrode out of the burner head. So I left the peephole open, guess what? The furnace started. This is completely the opposite of what the cad cell does. I double-check the cad cell, high resistance with no light, low resistance with light. Again cad cell is brand new. The oil furnace only starts with the peephole open, then I close the peephole and it runs great, very smooth. But won’t start up the next time the thermostats want heat on. What’s going on???
I thought I was seeing things when noticed water drips in the video while you were troubleshooting the boiler. Then you showed us the leaking high vent and back flow, etc. I’m not crazy
I watch a lot of your videos, you show your work but don’t teach much for beginners. For someone not ever working on these or working on them a little it’s hard to know why you do what you do or what sequence your checking or following. Good home video though but would be cool to hear you walk ppl through what your doing and why, would be super helpful.
beckett burner will only start when i push reset button
looking forward to next week's video her motor will end up going out on the weekend and she'll pay double the price for being cheap this time
Tighter than two coats of paint
A week from now your phone will ring and she'll say, " My boiler is making a loud screeching sound". I'd never leave that motor go like that if it were mine.
Who wouldn't fix a water leak while they have the HVAC guy there to fix it? Crazy. I can maybe understand the motor. It might run another 20 years but a leak is only going to get worse and worse.
It ain’t easy bein cheesy momma!
pay you now or pay you later
She's a crusty one Mr Grinch!!!!
So her decision to replace the motor has been put off until it craps out during a Sunday night snowstorm.... $$$
Wait a minute.. are you trying to tell me that “shit” happens??
Some people just roll the dice their entire life...will address the problem when it’s absolutely necessary...oh well, more $$$ in your pocket...
People will ignore the problems and just limp along until it's no heat on a Saturday night at 11:00PM and then they're lucky to find somebody to come out. A little education of the customer by the tech on cause and effect (e.g: leaks fall on controls which ruins control which leaves customer without heat.) I always keep my burner in good shape and have essential spare parts to fit it.
The crusty beast from the North East😀
Pay me now or pay me later.
She's AZ leaker mama...
She's a crusty one,,,,,, Mr Grinch!
Maybe first
Omg I just had a lol technician change my electric motor and charged $225.00 just for the motor exactly the same you were going to charge a $100
100 just for the motor ,, if it was a call 100 + 96 = 1 hour labor = 196 .00 so your guy was right in the ball park
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