I remember trying to game on A10-6800K back in the day and it struggled with anything open world and CPU intensive , APU's have come along way the results are just as good as the Ps4 version considering the optimization efforts on pc 👍
I have A10 6800K and the only reason it is horrible to play any video games is because it lacks L3 cache. Like, seriously any CPU without L3 Cache are abomination. Be it Intel or AMD.
Got a A10-9700 but not bothered. Even though in a pinch I could go full RandomGaminginHD on its ass! (Is his name Steve or am I thinking of the freeloader seagull at his grandparents?)
@@SamuHell782 the good thing with the 9000 a series is its am4 so you can always update the bios on the motherboard and stick a ryzen in . cex are selling ryzen 7 1700x for £60 at the moment that would be a massive upgrade for very little money
One thing I love about him is that he doesn't insult lower end graphics cards. Mainly because he uses them. It seems many other tech channels can forget that not everyone can afford high end gear.
Low end cards are so trash that igpu's are catching up to them. Igpu's are becoming a lot more capable, and things like the steam deck are making them more mainstream. Pretty soon, it'll be better to have no graphics card than a shitty one
60ish fps on that 5700G is insane. Obviously it's FSR 2.0 on Ultra Perfomance but 2.0 is such a massive jump from 1.0 that it's somewhat usable. And if you wanted, you could put the game on medium, FSR on Balanced and lock on 30fps.
Yeah FSR 2.0 is crazy good. I was a strong critic of FSR 1.0 and got quite angry at people even pretending it was remotely worthy of being a DLSS alternative, but even I have to admit FSR 2.0 is an incredible improvement and DOES deserve the title of a proper DLSS alternative.
@@tralphstreet Yeah, both use temporal upscaling now, instead of spatial, but Nvidia still has dedicated cores for this, where AMD does not. All in all, DLSS is a little bit better in the games that support it, but FSR is more widely available and works on almost all GPUs, which is a huge bonus. It might not necessarily make people switch from nvidia to AMD, because as I said, it works on most GPUs, but it is very good tech from AMD, and I think most people appreciate that.
This and the Miles Morales games are by far two of the best games to have come out it in recent years. Really happy PC users can now experience it :-). Something really fun about apu videos too. Nice work 👍
Miles morales was def fun I played both with the ps5 ,the first game was good I liked the story but the swinging was not as nice as miles morales ,I believe they improve quite abit in there .
Played it on the ps4 pro and was the game that finally made me pull the trigger on a ps4. It really was an amazing game, the only problem I ever had with it was getting stuck to walls while in combat.
@@SmokedGaming_Official currently downloading the game with my 1050ti i have no hope running this at a smooth frame with high settings and good quality
At the back of my mind I was hoping for this comparison benchmark for the Athlon 3000G and the Ryzen 7 5700G on this newly released Spider-Man PC Game and here it is. Thank a lot for this kind of videos. I really enjoyed watching it. Hope to see more such videos in the future.😃❤
It would be interesting to know if it's really the internal resolution that's bottlenecking the iGPU. It could also be the geometry that's too complex even on low settings. One way to test it would be to increase resolution (or use higher quality FSR) to see if performance degrades or stays relatively the same. It would be a shame having to put up with a blurry af output if it's not the bottleneck.
@@HappyBeezerStudios How can I fix that ? I mean changing resolution gain 2-3 fps but still 1050ti can get 50+fps in low 1080p not 25 in 720p (other games like GoW,days gone,RDR2 works more than fine)
@@Aweakanyoursoul Check your system usage. Your CPU might be the bottleneck, meaning the GPU is waiting on your CPU every frame, because it's taking a long time to compute something.
@@Aweakanyoursoul 25 fps is what you are going to get on a 1050 ti. It’s an extremely low end card these days. You also need a good cpu for this game. But the 1050 ti is going to show its age in this game.
@2:45 Instantly made me think of Spiderman 1/2 on the PS1, love it. APU's really have come a long way to be fair. My computer should play it beautifully when I pick up Spider-Man next month.
I think the CPU makers have noted the absolute disaster of mining and the impact on users not being able to upgrade and suspect iGPU is likely the future of CPU's as it puts everyone on an even foot and everyone can buy at a sensible price rather than paying ludicrous prices for mining shagged out cards that blow up fairly quickly on unsuspecting punters, AMD have always leaned towards the customer, nVidia tend to like to gouge when possible.
@@dodgydruid Yeah I mostly agree, but that's how markets work, supply and demand, doesn't matter what caused the demand. My GPU paid for itself through mining, I get to play some great games at a decent quality as a side bonus. I do think iGPU's are certainly the future though, the move away from x86 architectures and the constant improvements in internet and cloud streaming make it pretty much inevitable.
@@dodgydruid Now if they would offer different combinations in those packages. Because there are people with big CPU requirements that need graphics for nothing more than having a display, and there are people with massive parallel GPU workloads that need the CPU only to run the OS.
I've been playing WD:Legion and have it on pretty full on settings and looks astonishing on my Ryzen5 2600/RX570, doesn't sweat and have had very little stutter and glitch which surprised me it being quite a recent game.
I completely agree with your opening statement. Played this game back at launch on the PS4, and it was (and still is) one of the best games I've ever played. I can't wait to play the remaster at incredibly high settings on PC.
Though Steam Deck has RDNA2 graphics cores and the 5700G has only GCN5 (RX Vega 8), I really whish to see an APU with high core count and RDNA2 or even better RDNA3 in the future.
Buddy I was your 5th subscriber you have come so far me too just want to say thank you for always being honest and keeping it simple. Me and my partner love your vids keep up the work 👌
@@TRYHARDRACCOON your not I don't expect you too nore did I think you would know that that's why I sent this message bud ha 👍 terrible grammer sorry been a long day at work. Too hot and too stressed.
Crazy you were able to launch a AAA game ,without crashing , on INTEGRATED GRAPHICS. Miiiiiiinnnd blowing how much performance is baked in current date integrated graphics. Happy for all my low low budget gamers out there!! :D
Integrated graphics aren't the shitty Intel GMA that barely support 5 year old APIs anymore. In that 5700G runs what is basically the equivalent to a RX 550
You can reduce the field of view by a whopping 25 degrees below default, giving the game much less to render at once. This was a popular console optimization solution during the 7th gen, so I'd be surprised if it didn't solve your Athlon problem. Fighting like this... will take some practice, but it looks like everything else is totally manageable
This is one of the best games I have ever played in the genre! If you are even slightly interested, play it! It may just be one of the games who's story is good enough to enjoy, even if you can't use the best graphics. The story makes it worth it. Great idea, thank you for the video.
Your only hope is to run it at FSR Ultra Performance at 1080p with lowest settings. It should run at about 30fps. You should probably reduce it to 900p and play it like that. Also try switching some graphics settings around to see what works well for your Vega 7 graphics
@@fenixspider5776 It's not too far off from the Vega 8 inside the 5700G. The performance difference would come from not only the slower Vega 7 graphics at 1800MHz (1 less core and 300 less MHz) but also from the laptop RAM, which would run at 3200MHz CL22. At around 30fps with FSR Ultra Performance at 1080p, there might be a chance.
just bought a strix g 17 with 6900hx and 3700 fx card, i under clocked it, disabling the graphics card, got the cpu runninig on 25 watts, and run the whole rig at the native 2k and hit 60 fps on most games - i travel a lot and only really get to play in the car on usb c 100 watt charging in the car, the whole rig runs (including the awesome 17 inch monitor) at about 60 watts max, and the average temps are 40 c to 55c under heavy load - love channels like this though as it helps me realize that 4k/240 fps isn't needed :P
Great to see this game still runs with the Athlon APU, even though it only averages roughly between 20-30ish fps with FSR on. Sadly this game has a minimum requirement of directx12 (feature level 12_0) which is kind of a problem for PC users in my country, Indonesia. A lot of people here still use old graphics cards supporting only up to directx11, vulkan, or directx12 feature level 11_0 or 11_1. btw always love your vids, Steve! you even inspired me to start my own channel. keep up the good work!
@@urexbf._ The way D3D 12 Feature Levels are handled is still confusing, on the same level as USB 3 standards :D I mean, in theory my old 8800 GT supports DX12, just limited to FL 10_0
@@HappyBeezerStudios exactly!! sad thing is, some ppl here are selling old used GPUs only mentioning that it supports DX12 without mentioning the feature level. obviously, general buyers sometimes fall for it if they're not careful enough
This brings back memories of trying to play battlefield 2 on an Athlon64 cpu, without graphics card, back in the day when there were true super low options available, like being able to effectively lower draw distance to zero for example. I loved this game even though it was a smog and clay simulator on my poor underpowered computer. I miss those days, when I was happy that a game even loaded into the level and was playable at like 20ish fps. Nowadays I feel threatened to buy a new gpu because my 5700xt can't push Ultra settings anymore. Maybe next gpu generation I will go all out, to finally experience no compromises pc gaming for once, until it becomes outdated again. Currently rocking: Ryzen 7 1700x 32GB G.Skill FlareX RAM MSI Radeon RX 5700xt Evoke OC LG Oled CX 48" TV
i played the original and let me tell you the game's mechanics back then was mind blowing, nice to see it's been remade. Edit: 3:15 this mission i remember it and funny enough that same rocket guy across the way hit me similar to you back then, didn't even notice the one over there xD
I think one aspect of FSR 2.0 that most people haven't really put their thoughts into it is the fact that it uses your GPU compute unit to process the upscaling. Some games may actually exhibits performance degradation when turning on FSR 2.0 on a low end hardware because on most of low end hardware. GPU is usually the bottleneck, especially when playing a graphically demanding game. Make sure that if you want to turn on FSR 2.0, you ended up with performance gain. I say this because some people might turn on FSR 2.0 because they convinced that it is a performance win, thus not test the game with FSR 2.0 off. The 2nd aspect of FSR 2.0 or any reconstruction technique for that matter that is really important but often not emphasized enough is that the higher FPS you have, the better the reconstruction algorithm can do its magic. Most only emphasized about resolution, cited that on lower resolution it is less effective, which is true, but FPS actually played a bigger role than resolution. The way reconstruction work is that it uses previous frames data to reconstruct a better quality image than its internal resolution. Imagine 60 FPS vs 30 FPS on a fast paced scene. The previous frame on a 30 FPS game will be twice further than a 60 FPS game, thus it can end up being unusable for reconstruction. If you target 30 FPS on a fast paced game like Spiderman, I think it is better to just use spatial upscaling like FSR 1.0 (if that is an option of course) or just run the game at lower resolution. Yes, you do get the benefit of better image quality when you're standing still, but once you move, everything breaks down. And of course, if it is FSR 2.0, then it is likely that on a lower end GPU or iGPU, it will be GPU limited, thus you probably have a lot more performance win by just running the game at lower resolution than using FSR, and in motion there won't be that much difference in image quality. TL;DR make sure to test a game at native resolution vs just turning on FSR 2.0, especially on a lower end hardware, and especially true if you target 30 FPS, because turning on FSR 2.0 is not always going to yield a performance and image quality win. This is also partially true for DLSS. The difference is that DLSS will always have a performance win even when using the lowest end Nvidia GPU that is DLSS capable, since the hardware processing DLSS is separate and actually unused when you don't use DLSS on current games.
It works fairly well in my i7 laptop with geforce 940m GPU. Not constant FPS but playable nonetheless. You should give us a rundown of how it is during nighttime in the game. Because my FPS drops quite a bit during the night
I'm just making sure but were you on the latest AMD 22.8.1 graphics drivers? They were the optimised for Spider-man ones. Or did you mention that? I wasn't sure about it.
Suggestion for you, I notice you never mention this.... but right clicking your games exe and going to compatibility tab you'll see a checkbox labelled "disable fullscreen optimizations" what this does by default while unchecked is basically makes the game run fullscreen windowed without you realizing it. Enable this checkbox and you get a noticable performance improvement. Recently by doing this and both going into Radeon Settings and turning off or setting things to best perfomance i've helped people on the game i play go from 720p low settings to 1080p medium settings. Optimizing your experience is a must! I can almost guarantee you'd easily get a smooth 30fps by doing at least the exe trick. Worth mentioning in another video. If you haven't tried it please do. I used to do this for all my GPU's when i ran Windows but i'm on Linux now so thankfully DXVK (Vulkan) gives me better performance out the box than DirectX would. When using an AMD GPU *ALWAYS* use Vulkan as the renderer when possible. Also,Nvidia Control Panel can be optimized in the same way as Radeon Settings as well. I hope this either helps you out or someone who reads this! I've been a subscriber for about 6 years or so now maybe 5. Glad i stumbled across your content the day i did. Looking forward to the next video! Still so much use to these lower end AMD APU graphics processors. Even the older GPU's! Rocking an i7 8700 and an RX 470 myself. Recently upgraded the platform from an LGA 2011 (x79) with Xeon e5-1620 v2 (3.9ghZ i7 3930 4c/8t) and it gave my 470 another little breath of life!
The published game spec doesn't apply to various real-life rigs. I got i3 16gb ram and gtx 1650s and the game auto set it on very high. So watching this confirms my thought that this game is actually very forgiving.
What program is being used for the bench marking in game? I am now curious! Also surprised at how much can be done with the 5700 which went better than I had expected it to.
It provides more performance, but at the cost of higher temps and powerdraw. Drivers for it will also be dropped sooner, and RT and AI performance of it is a bit worse due to 1st gen cores compared to more modern 2nd gen ones from the 3050.
Yes. Though for now the only GPU that makes sense is the RX 6600, with its much better power draw and with how powerful that is. Its value is the best with the current street prices
@@peters.7428 while what you stated is true I don't think it actually makes a difference or makes the 3050 a better option given that they're priced the same , for example drivers will not be dropped anytime soon since the 10 series of gpus is still supported , so that means at least 3 more years of support . The temps and power increase is true but it shouldn't be much of a problem for a lot of rigs ( although that would depend on the case and psu bought so this could be a reason to buy the 3050 if someone didn't plan for an upgrade and they're short on money) . also about RT and AI , the 3050 isn't strong enough to handle RT and if it does it's generally low RT settings which can be hit and miss quality wise and dlss has worse image quality at 1080p which this card targets , so these feature aren't really selling points for it , although this may be different for workloads compared to gaming ( also the 2060super has a little better RT and AI performance since even though the 3050 has more mature cores , the 2060super has more of them )
I don't understand why people get a 3050 over a 6600 when it outperforms it and costs about the same in most markets. Hell where I am the 6600 goes for less.
Sometimes, I wish that AMD could release the successor to Athlon 3000G with at least 4c/4t setup & lite version of RDNA 2 (less powerful than Steam Deck but still better than garbage Anbernic Win600). Other than that, it's good to see former PS4 exclusive Spiderman video game to be released on PC.
The issue of the anbernic win600 is price and the use of dual channel ram. This makes gpu go slightly below level of a 8th gen core i3 u series gpu. If it had dual channel, it would be faster than hd 620. They do have a successor to the ryzen 3200u and athlon 3050e in the AMD Ryzen 3 7230U, which is on the level of a vega 5.
I have basically the same pc as the first one you showed but with a i5-10400f and on medium it runs surprisingly good considering people on steam said there is stuttering even on higher end systems
Wonder how this would run on DXVK. With specs this low, you probably don't have much in the way of overhead and DXVK is known to sometimes pull out a bit more performance.
I played this game on ps4 30fps on 4k tv at 1080p and I was amazed. Be happy with 30 fps you can turn on the true motion setting on TV that makes it 60fps
@@katakouzinos no body said magic its interpolation. It depends on your TV. Not all TVs can do it good. My Sony xf75 does it nice. It works very good in Rdr2 and spiderman. Your game must have consistent 30 fps for this. Also there are settings for motion Flow. I had poor results with witcher 3 on ps4. On ps5 i still use this feature because I won't pay extra for spiderman remaster. Rdr2 is still 30fps..
@@therunawaykid6523 The 5700G has integrated graphics on the CPU so you can play games without a graphics card. It can still be used with a graphics card, but it is intended to be used without one.
The big Zen3 APUs are really well put together units with heaps of performance. But again they suffer from badly done reviews. They get put together with a dGPU in a pure CPU comparison, and are run with the iGPU to show how much ahead of Intel they are, but nobody does the really interesting test, where the APU is tested against a "normal" CPU/GPU combo.
@@HappyBeezerStudios it is also the fact that when they came out the price of the 5700g and 5600g were 359.99 dollars for the 5700g and the 5600g was 259.99 dollars for the 6 core respectively. The price has dropped by over a 100 bucks for each, but you have to remember those reviews were using the launch msrp.
I have a i5-3330S cpu, with a amd radeon r5 200 series gpu (office gpu) Im downloading the game right now and after looking at this video I think that it can work. btw 6gb ram
This game is so well optimized that even being a ps5 game (this is the “ps5 version” with ray tracing) i managed to run it on intel uhd 630, not only not the newest up to date intel integrated, but also we gotta consider, intel integrated graphis ARE REALLY BAD, can carry you to daily stuff but is not for heavy gaming, being able to run spiderman on this is actually, quite impressive.
Ofc it looks ugly, the frame rate is not even at 30 i would say its between 20 to 30 15 ito 10 in a crowd area. But is definitely playable and it doesnt crash.
I have a 10 years old dell inspiron laptop with 3rd gen i3 cpu and a dedicated graphics card AMD radeon HD 8700M. I installed the game with zero hope as I've previously tried to run Marvel Avengers and it was running at unplayable FPS and frequently crashes out of the game. But surprisingly the marvel's spiderman remastered running smoothly at medium settings on my laptop. This is shocking as I've tried this game on my friends newer laptop with i7 and iris graphics but even at very low settings it was impossible to play
im playing this game with a GT 730 and intel core i3 4170 constantly still surprised at how good i can make the game look in photo mode, and unlike you people who can only play games when its 30 fps and above, i still find playability in 12 to 15 fps since im kinda used to it still gonna watch the video to see whats what
NVIDIA and AMD and even INTEL needs to start working on a new technology that is more superior and better than DLSS and FSR, something in their new future upcoming GPU's, especially those budgets cheap GPU's between a $100 and $300 so the owners of these graphic cards can enjoy new games like that without laag and with at least +60 FPS either in Medium Settings or Low Settings. So whenever someone doesn't have enough money to buy some expensive GPU, he would just go with a GPU that cost $100 or $150 for example the RTX 5050 and with that new GPU there's going to be a new feature called DLSS 5.0 OR PFSS that allows that GPU to scale much better in demanding games without losing any image quality and plays with more than 60 FPS in 1080p and even 1440p if the game is well optimized. So everyone can be good and happy with decent smooth gameplay. (Those who owns superior medium and high end GPU's of course they going to have more VRam and more FPS in-games compared to those with lower budget GPU's, the goal here is we want everyone to enjoy 60 FPS and more in every single game, there's no more stuttering and there's no more laaging, and there's no more 30 FPS and 20 FPS in games)
Is the memory dual rank or single rank? Single rank modules in a 2x8 config would be limiting bandwidth available to the APU. Also optimizing memory frequency and timings can offer very nice improvement to APU performance.
5700g very impressive tbh lol it's funny that people think this game isn't optimized well yet don't realize thwy are all talking about maxed out settings including ray tracing. It's very demanding and I'm surprised I am able to get over 60fps stable. So yeah people need to account for this. Idk when it became people expecting with any setup to be able to use maxed put settings that isn't console level performance so people shouldn't expect to be able to do that and then say it's not optimized well lol. So I agree with you it's optimized well. Yes it's very heavy on the cpu but that makes total sense with all of the surrounding areas with ray tracing etc. All those reflections aka windows etc. It's crazy! So much detail in a game!
I'm getting a buttery smooth 60 fps locked at very high settings preset with my rx 6600 and it 12100f. In two hours I've only seen 2 stutters, and they very really short. I also haven't seen any broken textures. Game is running perfect for me.
@@cinder3150 I have the same gpu and cpu, I feel that the ryzen 2600 is very weak for this game because it prevents the gpu usage from going up and therefore the fps goes down when swinging very quickly on tall buildings.
Really impressed with how the 5700G performed. Always enjoy seeing these AAA games without discrete GPU videos.
spend $60 on some old game? save money!
AAA-
@@hexonictheverymediocre was ew hg
@@gelloboi001 tf you mean
@@hexonictheverymediocre i dont remember commenting that
I remember trying to game on A10-6800K back in the day and it struggled with anything open world and CPU intensive , APU's have come along way the results are just as good as the Ps4 version considering the optimization efforts on pc 👍
I have A10 6800K and the only reason it is horrible to play any video games is because it lacks L3 cache.
Like, seriously any CPU without L3 Cache are abomination. Be it Intel or AMD.
Got a A10-9700 but not bothered. Even though in a pinch I could go full RandomGaminginHD on its ass! (Is his name Steve or am I thinking of the freeloader seagull at his grandparents?)
I used to have the a4 3300. I feel your pain lol
@@SamuHell782 the good thing with the 9000 a series is its am4 so you can always update the bios on the motherboard and stick a ryzen in . cex are selling ryzen 7 1700x for £60 at the moment that would be a massive upgrade for very little money
@@RandomGaminginHD Please make a video about cheap HDMI capture Box from PC to Laptop. Will be highly appreciated.
One thing I love about him is that he doesn't insult lower end graphics cards. Mainly because he uses them. It seems many other tech channels can forget that not everyone can afford high end gear.
Low end cards are so trash that igpu's are catching up to them. Igpu's are becoming a lot more capable, and things like the steam deck are making them more mainstream. Pretty soon, it'll be better to have no graphics card than a shitty one
@@Carbonatedballsack you dont have to shame people about it though.
@@Carbonatedballsack Do you have to shame people for that though ? Some people don’t care about fps as long as the game can run.
That is cool, but calling a 3050 mid range was a moment I took notice of. No no. Thats the lower end of high end both in cost and performance.
@@Carbonatedballsack Unironically you're right lol.
You are someone who really cares about low end hardware gamers
is it worth it, keep running old titles?
@@lucasrem ur mom
@SHIV-S-GOSWAMI I think using IGTI or DLSS would provide more fps and better quality (DLSS is really well implemented in this game than FSR)
60ish fps on that 5700G is insane. Obviously it's FSR 2.0 on Ultra Perfomance but 2.0 is such a massive jump from 1.0 that it's somewhat usable. And if you wanted, you could put the game on medium, FSR on Balanced and lock on 30fps.
Yeah FSR 2.0 is crazy good. I was a strong critic of FSR 1.0 and got quite angry at people even pretending it was remotely worthy of being a DLSS alternative, but even I have to admit FSR 2.0 is an incredible improvement and DOES deserve the title of a proper DLSS alternative.
No it doesn’t actually
@@steel5897 FSR 1.0 still has no match for lower end GPUs.
@@steel5897 That's because it never was. FSR 1.0 is a completely different beast to what DLSS is. FSR 2.0 is using the same technique DLSS is.
@@tralphstreet Yeah, both use temporal upscaling now, instead of spatial, but Nvidia still has dedicated cores for this, where AMD does not. All in all, DLSS is a little bit better in the games that support it, but FSR is more widely available and works on almost all GPUs, which is a huge bonus. It might not necessarily make people switch from nvidia to AMD, because as I said, it works on most GPUs, but it is very good tech from AMD, and I think most people appreciate that.
This and the Miles Morales games are by far two of the best games to have come out it in recent years. Really happy PC users can now experience it :-). Something really fun about apu videos too. Nice work 👍
I didn’t really like miles morales that much. 70 bucks for a standalone dlc seemed ridiculous
@@4skintim962 I waited and only spent 20.
Miles Morales is so short it should have been an expansion instead.
@@4skintim962 I don't remember it being $70. The game itself was $50 but if you wanted it packed in with the original remastered then it was $70.
Miles morales was def fun I played both with the ps5 ,the first game was good I liked the story but the swinging was not as nice as miles morales ,I believe they improve quite abit in there .
Played it on the ps4 pro and was the game that finally made me pull the trigger on a ps4. It really was an amazing game, the only problem I ever had with it was getting stuck to walls while in combat.
You should play it on pc. I'm playing it at 1440p maxed settings and it looks great!
@@SmokedGaming_Official currently downloading the game with my 1050ti i have no hope running this at a smooth frame with high settings and good quality
Yeah I’m having a great time. Don’t know why I didn’t play it sooner
@@RandomGaminginHD game is awesome!
@@tertysixtee8281 you should be alright man. Even lower settings look good on the game.
At the back of my mind I was hoping for this comparison benchmark for the Athlon 3000G and the Ryzen 7 5700G on this newly released Spider-Man PC Game and here it is. Thank a lot for this kind of videos. I really enjoyed watching it. Hope to see more such videos in the future.😃❤
It would be interesting to know if it's really the internal resolution that's bottlenecking the iGPU. It could also be the geometry that's too complex even on low settings.
One way to test it would be to increase resolution (or use higher quality FSR) to see if performance degrades or stays relatively the same.
It would be a shame having to put up with a blurry af output if it's not the bottleneck.
Same problem no matter how I increase or decrease graphic or resolutions fps are still the same around 15-25😑
@@Aweakanyoursoul If resolution changes don't change anything it usually isn't the GPU that is the limiting factor.
@@HappyBeezerStudios How can I fix that ?
I mean changing resolution gain 2-3 fps but still 1050ti can get 50+fps in low 1080p not 25 in 720p (other games like GoW,days gone,RDR2 works more than fine)
@@Aweakanyoursoul Check your system usage. Your CPU might be the bottleneck, meaning the GPU is waiting on your CPU every frame, because it's taking a long time to compute something.
@@Aweakanyoursoul 25 fps is what you are going to get on a 1050 ti. It’s an extremely low end card these days. You also need a good cpu for this game. But the 1050 ti is going to show its age in this game.
can't believe they got this game running on the 360
At first I was like "will the 3000G even launch the game?" but it surprised me as always. Great little CPU.
Funny how I still watch these vids even after finally getting a gpu
Mine just finished downloading! Can’t wait to play on my 2080 Super :)
Have fun :)
How large is the game file?
@@therunawaykid6523 it was around 60GB I believe
@@PrjctWRX wow that’s pretty big but I guess it is a graphically impressive game with a large explorable world
@2:45 Instantly made me think of Spiderman 1/2 on the PS1, love it. APU's really have come a long way to be fair. My computer should play it beautifully when I pick up Spider-Man next month.
I think the CPU makers have noted the absolute disaster of mining and the impact on users not being able to upgrade and suspect iGPU is likely the future of CPU's as it puts everyone on an even foot and everyone can buy at a sensible price rather than paying ludicrous prices for mining shagged out cards that blow up fairly quickly on unsuspecting punters, AMD have always leaned towards the customer, nVidia tend to like to gouge when possible.
@@dodgydruid Yeah I mostly agree, but that's how markets work, supply and demand, doesn't matter what caused the demand. My GPU paid for itself through mining, I get to play some great games at a decent quality as a side bonus.
I do think iGPU's are certainly the future though, the move away from x86 architectures and the constant improvements in internet and cloud streaming make it pretty much inevitable.
@@u0aol1 you steel the needed power?
@@lucasrem Nope, it's just cheap where I live.
@@dodgydruid Now if they would offer different combinations in those packages. Because there are people with big CPU requirements that need graphics for nothing more than having a display, and there are people with massive parallel GPU workloads that need the CPU only to run the OS.
I was not expecting to see an iGPU performed that well!
They surprise me every time :)
The magic of FSR 2.0. Thank you AMD
I've been playing WD:Legion and have it on pretty full on settings and looks astonishing on my Ryzen5 2600/RX570, doesn't sweat and have had very little stutter and glitch which surprised me it being quite a recent game.
I completely agree with your opening statement. Played this game back at launch on the PS4, and it was (and still is) one of the best games I've ever played. I can't wait to play the remaster at incredibly high settings on PC.
Makes sense that the 5700G runs this pretty well, this game was also Steam Deck Verified before release.
Though Steam Deck has RDNA2 graphics cores and the 5700G has only GCN5 (RX Vega 8), I really whish to see an APU with high core count and RDNA2 or even better RDNA3 in the future.
I'm playing the game with a GTX1070 at 4k and it looks graphically amazing and perfect optimized.Great job in this remastered.I'm impressed!
Buddy I was your 5th subscriber you have come so far me too just want to say thank you for always being honest and keeping it simple. Me and my partner love your vids keep up the work 👌
CAP: your channel was made 7 months ago. This TH-camr has been here for longer.
@@TRYHARDRACCOON ive got 3 accounts lol
@@hexusmexus6971 buddy, how am I supposed to know that
@@TRYHARDRACCOON your not I don't expect you too nore did I think you would know that that's why I sent this message bud ha 👍 terrible grammer sorry been a long day at work. Too hot and too stressed.
Crazy you were able to launch a AAA game ,without crashing , on INTEGRATED GRAPHICS. Miiiiiiinnnd blowing how much performance is baked in current date integrated graphics. Happy for all my low low budget gamers out there!! :D
Integrated graphics aren't the shitty Intel GMA that barely support 5 year old APIs anymore. In that 5700G runs what is basically the equivalent to a RX 550
What have you done to Spiderman?! I’ve never imagined seeing this game look so bad. Cannot unsee
Imagine it as a GBA demake
I can’t wait for you to get your hands on RDNA2 apu’s in the future, your tests are always the most entertaining to me
You can reduce the field of view by a whopping 25 degrees below default, giving the game much less to render at once. This was a popular console optimization solution during the 7th gen, so I'd be surprised if it didn't solve your Athlon problem. Fighting like this... will take some practice, but it looks like everything else is totally manageable
Dude I don't know why but this one setting made my computer go from a slideshow to a playable game.
This is one of the best games I have ever played in the genre! If you are even slightly interested, play it! It may just be one of the games who's story is good enough to enjoy, even if you can't use the best graphics. The story makes it worth it.
Great idea, thank you for the video.
Was surprised with my old 1660 super even, this game is very well optimized
What are your settings for this game? I get occasional frame drops and I have the same GPU. Trying to run this at 1080p with 75 fps.
lol 1660 super not old graphics card here is my gtx 960 "old"
I'd love to see its benchmark with mobile ryzen 5 5500u chipset from you. I always love your content mate.
Thanks mate :)
Your only hope is to run it at FSR Ultra Performance at 1080p with lowest settings. It should run at about 30fps. You should probably reduce it to 900p and play it like that. Also try switching some graphics settings around to see what works well for your Vega 7 graphics
@@one_step_sideways I doubt those 25w vega based apus can even do 1080p even with fsr 2.0 on ultra performance.
@@fenixspider5776 It's not too far off from the Vega 8 inside the 5700G. The performance difference would come from not only the slower Vega 7 graphics at 1800MHz (1 less core and 300 less MHz) but also from the laptop RAM, which would run at 3200MHz CL22. At around 30fps with FSR Ultra Performance at 1080p, there might be a chance.
@@one_step_sideways you can't really directly compare desktop APUs to their mobile APUs counterparts. Since there is a huge difference in TDP.
just bought a strix g 17 with 6900hx and 3700 fx card, i under clocked it, disabling the graphics card, got the cpu runninig on 25 watts, and run the whole rig at the native 2k and hit 60 fps on most games - i travel a lot and only really get to play in the car on usb c 100 watt charging in the car, the whole rig runs (including the awesome 17 inch monitor) at about 60 watts max, and the average temps are 40 c to 55c under heavy load - love channels like this though as it helps me realize that 4k/240 fps isn't needed :P
Reviews are good but this, this is what we need to find out!
Running on a RTX 3070 & 5600X. Buttery smooth at high to very high settings and looks great. 👍🏾
I was really waiting for this since yesterday, thanks a lot.
also I will try to run it on my ryzen 3 3250u anyways.
I will try to run it on my aya neo handheld pc at some poin
Man, the Athlon game play really reminded me of the days I played Spider-Man on my brother's GameCube lmao.
Great to see this game still runs with the Athlon APU, even though it only averages roughly between 20-30ish fps with FSR on. Sadly this game has a minimum requirement of directx12 (feature level 12_0) which is kind of a problem for PC users in my country, Indonesia. A lot of people here still use old graphics cards supporting only up to directx11, vulkan, or directx12 feature level 11_0 or 11_1.
btw always love your vids, Steve! you even inspired me to start my own channel. keep up the good work!
Cholid Haydar
name one title that does runs more DX 12 features! Get ray tracing on Vukan now?
You bought it, you like it?
@@lucasrem chill man, read my point carefully. why are u so mad in every comment on this channel?😂
@@urexbf._ The way D3D 12 Feature Levels are handled is still confusing, on the same level as USB 3 standards :D
I mean, in theory my old 8800 GT supports DX12, just limited to FL 10_0
@@HappyBeezerStudios exactly!! sad thing is, some ppl here are selling old used GPUs only mentioning that it supports DX12 without mentioning the feature level. obviously, general buyers sometimes fall for it if they're not careful enough
Great gameplay man
😯😯😯 I´m surprised that is even Possible.
This brings back memories of trying to play battlefield 2 on an Athlon64 cpu, without graphics card, back in the day when there were true super low options available, like being able to effectively lower draw distance to zero for example.
I loved this game even though it was a smog and clay simulator on my poor underpowered computer.
I miss those days, when I was happy that a game even loaded into the level and was playable at like 20ish fps.
Nowadays I feel threatened to buy a new gpu because my 5700xt can't push Ultra settings anymore.
Maybe next gpu generation I will go all out, to finally experience no compromises pc gaming for once, until it becomes outdated again.
Currently rocking:
Ryzen 7 1700x
32GB G.Skill FlareX RAM
MSI Radeon RX 5700xt Evoke OC
LG Oled CX 48" TV
i played the original and let me tell you the game's mechanics back then was mind blowing, nice to see it's been remade.
Edit: 3:15 this mission i remember it and funny enough that same rocket guy across the way hit me similar to you back then, didn't even notice the one over there xD
To the point, looks good, impressed! :-)
Nice! This is the kind of video a lot of people are looking for.
I think one aspect of FSR 2.0 that most people haven't really put their thoughts into it is the fact that it uses your GPU compute unit to process the upscaling. Some games may actually exhibits performance degradation when turning on FSR 2.0 on a low end hardware because on most of low end hardware. GPU is usually the bottleneck, especially when playing a graphically demanding game. Make sure that if you want to turn on FSR 2.0, you ended up with performance gain. I say this because some people might turn on FSR 2.0 because they convinced that it is a performance win, thus not test the game with FSR 2.0 off.
The 2nd aspect of FSR 2.0 or any reconstruction technique for that matter that is really important but often not emphasized enough is that the higher FPS you have, the better the reconstruction algorithm can do its magic. Most only emphasized about resolution, cited that on lower resolution it is less effective, which is true, but FPS actually played a bigger role than resolution. The way reconstruction work is that it uses previous frames data to reconstruct a better quality image than its internal resolution. Imagine 60 FPS vs 30 FPS on a fast paced scene. The previous frame on a 30 FPS game will be twice further than a 60 FPS game, thus it can end up being unusable for reconstruction. If you target 30 FPS on a fast paced game like Spiderman, I think it is better to just use spatial upscaling like FSR 1.0 (if that is an option of course) or just run the game at lower resolution. Yes, you do get the benefit of better image quality when you're standing still, but once you move, everything breaks down. And of course, if it is FSR 2.0, then it is likely that on a lower end GPU or iGPU, it will be GPU limited, thus you probably have a lot more performance win by just running the game at lower resolution than using FSR, and in motion there won't be that much difference in image quality.
TL;DR make sure to test a game at native resolution vs just turning on FSR 2.0, especially on a lower end hardware, and especially true if you target 30 FPS, because turning on FSR 2.0 is not always going to yield a performance and image quality win. This is also partially true for DLSS. The difference is that DLSS will always have a performance win even when using the lowest end Nvidia GPU that is DLSS capable, since the hardware processing DLSS is separate and actually unused when you don't use DLSS on current games.
From the title alone, I think you’re crazy...but I’m intrigued.
Wild. The first one made it look like a game from like 2008
Alternative title: how to make Spider-Man Remastered look like Spider-Man for Playstation 2.
Yoo you were featured in PCGAMESn
It works fairly well in my i7 laptop with geforce 940m GPU. Not constant FPS but playable nonetheless. You should give us a rundown of how it is during nighttime in the game. Because my FPS drops quite a bit during the night
Brings a whole new definition to "software rendering"!
It's absolutely outstanding how well games can perform on extremely old hardware nowadays.
This game is really awesome.. Playing on 1660gfx with i5 9400F.. Excellent performance without a glitch...
2:47 Kudos to Nixxes for letting us play at that resolution (my PC is capable of 1080p, so I'll select 800x600 for fun)
Yeah surprising how may developers still include it
I’ve even seen the game running on CRTs!
i play this in VR with 3D through reshade! i love it!!
You should have tried with FSR2.0 off as well. On low end hardware it has a significant performance impact.
I'm just making sure but were you on the latest AMD 22.8.1 graphics drivers?
They were the optimised for Spider-man ones.
Or did you mention that? I wasn't sure about it.
Man, I miss the days when a C2D and 550 ti was all you needed to game
5:23 🤣 Sounds about right, My iPad tried to cook itself yesterday.
Suggestion for you, I notice you never mention this.... but right clicking your games exe and going to compatibility tab you'll see a checkbox labelled "disable fullscreen optimizations" what this does by default while unchecked is basically makes the game run fullscreen windowed without you realizing it. Enable this checkbox and you get a noticable performance improvement. Recently by doing this and both going into Radeon Settings and turning off or setting things to best perfomance i've helped people on the game i play go from 720p low settings to 1080p medium settings. Optimizing your experience is a must! I can almost guarantee you'd easily get a smooth 30fps by doing at least the exe trick. Worth mentioning in another video. If you haven't tried it please do. I used to do this for all my GPU's when i ran Windows but i'm on Linux now so thankfully DXVK (Vulkan) gives me better performance out the box than DirectX would. When using an AMD GPU *ALWAYS* use Vulkan as the renderer when possible. Also,Nvidia Control Panel can be optimized in the same way as Radeon Settings as well.
I hope this either helps you out or someone who reads this!
I've been a subscriber for about 6 years or so now maybe 5. Glad i stumbled across your content the day i did. Looking forward to the next video!
Still so much use to these lower end AMD APU graphics processors. Even the older GPU's! Rocking an i7 8700 and an RX 470 myself. Recently upgraded the platform from an LGA 2011 (x79) with Xeon e5-1620 v2 (3.9ghZ i7 3930 4c/8t) and it gave my 470 another little breath of life!
Thank you for the kind words and the advice. I’ll try that out :)
The published game spec doesn't apply to various real-life rigs. I got i3 16gb ram and gtx 1650s and the game auto set it on very high. So watching this confirms my thought that this game is actually very forgiving.
Spider-Man remastered on PC has literally the best keyboard support I've ever experienced
What program is being used for the bench marking in game? I am now curious! Also surprised at how much can be done with the 5700 which went better than I had expected it to.
You know the pixilation almost reminds me of the old ps1/ps2 spiderman games which were my fav!
Can't wait for the RDNA2 and RDNA3 APUs to appear in miniPCs.
Going to be great for years to come.
Yeah it’ll be a new era for gaming without graphics cards
Ah yes, just when a new game releases, my PC decided now is a great time to stop working. Neat
Stopped how?
@@armando1is1great probably got killed by a power surge
i still don't understand why people get a 3050 when a 2060 S is better
It provides more performance, but at the cost of higher temps and powerdraw. Drivers for it will also be dropped sooner, and RT and AI performance of it is a bit worse due to 1st gen cores compared to more modern 2nd gen ones from the 3050.
Yes. Though for now the only GPU that makes sense is the RX 6600, with its much better power draw and with how powerful that is. Its value is the best with the current street prices
@@peters.7428 while what you stated is true I don't think it actually makes a difference or makes the 3050 a better option given that they're priced the same , for example drivers will not be dropped anytime soon since the 10 series of gpus is still supported , so that means at least 3 more years of support . The temps and power increase is true but it shouldn't be much of a problem for a lot of rigs ( although that would depend on the case and psu bought so this could be a reason to buy the 3050 if someone didn't plan for an upgrade and they're short on money) . also about RT and AI , the 3050 isn't strong enough to handle RT and if it does it's generally low RT settings which can be hit and miss quality wise and dlss has worse image quality at 1080p which this card targets , so these feature aren't really selling points for it , although this may be different for workloads compared to gaming ( also the 2060super has a little better RT and AI performance since even though the 3050 has more mature cores , the 2060super has more of them )
I don't understand why people get a 3050 over a 6600 when it outperforms it and costs about the same in most markets. Hell where I am the 6600 goes for less.
caz of vram and price maybe
But I perfer 6600
Sometimes, I wish that AMD could release the successor to Athlon 3000G with at least 4c/4t setup & lite version of RDNA 2 (less powerful than Steam Deck but still better than garbage Anbernic Win600). Other than that, it's good to see former PS4 exclusive Spiderman video game to be released on PC.
Then it will be similar to 2200G or 3200G
The issue of the anbernic win600 is price and the use of dual channel ram. This makes gpu go slightly below level of a 8th gen core i3 u series gpu. If it had dual channel, it would be faster than hd 620.
They do have a successor to the ryzen 3200u and athlon 3050e in the AMD Ryzen 3 7230U, which is on the level of a vega 5.
LOL. Digital Foundry's Spider-man video shows up in the recommended feed for this video.
I have basically the same pc as the first one you showed but with a i5-10400f and on medium it runs surprisingly good considering people on steam said there is stuttering even on higher end systems
Kinda crazy to have 30fps with no GPU, back in the day this was more than playable stuff
Wonder how this would run on DXVK. With specs this low, you probably don't have much in the way of overhead and DXVK is known to sometimes pull out a bit more performance.
I played this game on ps4 30fps on 4k tv at 1080p and I was amazed. Be happy with 30 fps you can turn on the true motion setting on TV that makes it 60fps
True motion artificially increases the image its horrible lol it doesn't make the game magically run at 60 HX
@@katakouzinos no body said magic its interpolation. It depends on your TV. Not all TVs can do it good. My Sony xf75 does it nice. It works very good in Rdr2 and spiderman. Your game must have consistent 30 fps for this. Also there are settings for motion Flow. I had poor results with witcher 3 on ps4. On ps5 i still use this feature because I won't pay extra for spiderman remaster. Rdr2 is still 30fps..
Impressive to see that it's playable on the 5700G. Will be interesting to compare if AMD releases a G variant for Zen 4.
So is the 5700G the one without the graphics card?
@@therunawaykid6523 The 5700G has integrated graphics on the CPU so you can play games without a graphics card. It can still be used with a graphics card, but it is intended to be used without one.
The big Zen3 APUs are really well put together units with heaps of performance.
But again they suffer from badly done reviews. They get put together with a dGPU in a pure CPU comparison, and are run with the iGPU to show how much ahead of Intel they are, but nobody does the really interesting test, where the APU is tested against a "normal" CPU/GPU combo.
@@HappyBeezerStudios it is also the fact that when they came out the price of the 5700g and 5600g were 359.99 dollars for the 5700g and the 5600g was 259.99 dollars for the 6 core respectively. The price has dropped by over a 100 bucks for each, but you have to remember those reviews were using the launch msrp.
I have a i5-3330S cpu, with a amd radeon r5 200 series gpu (office gpu)
Im downloading the game right now and after looking at this video I think that it can work.
btw 6gb ram
Hi, thanks for sharing. Could you tell me what mother board use with the 5700g?
That’s very impressive and sick
Do you plan to get your hands on 6000 series RDNA2 apu? Maybe a Mini pc or laptop
Awesome gives me hopes for my 980 TI
Good video.
If you have a Ryzen apu then use 3600mhz ram, it can use all of the help it can get.
Keep it up Sir i3 🤩
This game is so well optimized that even being a ps5 game (this is the “ps5 version” with ray tracing) i managed to run it on intel uhd 630, not only not the newest up to date intel integrated, but also we gotta consider, intel integrated graphis ARE REALLY BAD, can carry you to daily stuff but is not for heavy gaming, being able to run spiderman on this is actually, quite impressive.
Ofc it looks ugly, the frame rate is not even at 30 i would say its between 20 to 30 15 ito 10 in a crowd area. But is definitely playable and it doesnt crash.
This is how Crash Bandicoot and Spyro remakes runs on PS5. And Batman Arkham Knight. They all lag and stutter. So great being a PS5 owner
I have a 10 years old dell inspiron laptop with 3rd gen i3 cpu and a dedicated graphics card AMD radeon HD 8700M. I installed the game with zero hope as I've previously tried to run Marvel Avengers and it was running at unplayable FPS and frequently crashes out of the game. But surprisingly the marvel's spiderman remastered running smoothly at medium settings on my laptop. This is shocking as I've tried this game on my friends newer laptop with i7 and iris graphics but even at very low settings it was impossible to play
Thanks for this not going to even try it on the surface pro 8 because of Intel graphics :) hopefully it gets patched soon!
im playing this game with a GT 730 and intel core i3 4170 constantly
still surprised at how good i can make the game look in photo mode, and unlike you people who can only play games when its 30 fps and above, i still find playability in 12 to 15 fps since im kinda used to it
still gonna watch the video to see whats what
waited for this video ngl
as a 5700g owner its really nice to see that i would do fine if my gpu would decide to retire.
You and me both
Thanks for saying it, there are definitely micro stutters in the game
The fact that the integrated graphics of the Ryzen 7 outperforms my GTX 1050...
Can't wait to see it on my 3070 & 3700X :D
MY NEW RYZEN 7 LAPTOP CAN RUN THIS LETS GOOO!!!!!! but i have it on playstation 4. But great video!
NVIDIA and AMD and even INTEL needs to start working on a new technology that is more superior and better than DLSS and FSR, something in their new future upcoming GPU's, especially those budgets cheap GPU's between a $100 and $300 so the owners of these graphic cards can enjoy new games like that without laag and with at least +60 FPS either in Medium Settings or Low Settings.
So whenever someone doesn't have enough money to buy some expensive GPU, he would just go with a GPU that cost $100 or $150 for example the RTX 5050 and with that new GPU there's going to be a new feature called DLSS 5.0 OR PFSS that allows that GPU to scale much better in demanding games without losing any image quality and plays with more than 60 FPS in 1080p and even 1440p if the game is well optimized. So everyone can be good and happy with decent smooth gameplay. (Those who owns superior medium and high end GPU's of course they going to have more VRam and more FPS in-games compared to those with lower budget GPU's, the goal here is we want everyone to enjoy 60 FPS and more in every single game, there's no more stuttering and there's no more laaging, and there's no more 30 FPS and 20 FPS in games)
I've been playing this all morning😎
I think the DOS game called “AlleyCat” was the first cat sim - played it quite frequently
stray weirdly isn't the only cat simulator.
Is the memory dual rank or single rank? Single rank modules in a 2x8 config would be limiting bandwidth available to the APU. Also optimizing memory frequency and timings can offer very nice improvement to APU performance.
5700g very impressive tbh lol it's funny that people think this game isn't optimized well yet don't realize thwy are all talking about maxed out settings including ray tracing. It's very demanding and I'm surprised I am able to get over 60fps stable. So yeah people need to account for this. Idk when it became people expecting with any setup to be able to use maxed put settings that isn't console level performance so people shouldn't expect to be able to do that and then say it's not optimized well lol. So I agree with you it's optimized well. Yes it's very heavy on the cpu but that makes total sense with all of the surrounding areas with ray tracing etc. All those reflections aka windows etc. It's crazy! So much detail in a game!
I have a 5600g, do you think i will get a similar experience
Maybe around 50fps ?
I maxed all of the settings on my 3700X + 3070 build, and it worked flawlessly with an average fps of 110 and lows of 80
Yea you can expect that with a 3070 lmao . I max out everything on 2k with raytracing on high with a rtx 2070.
Lurker, im interested in a 3400G. at the time, this was a great balance. wonder if ot would pit up anyfight at all. cheers
I'm surprised your Athlon 3000G's running so cool though even with that game, I use a wraith stealth too and those temps are just my idle temps
the game is fairly optimized for the pc i have to say.. well done.
considering APUs on the ryzens running the game on atleast 30fps is mind blowing
I'm getting a buttery smooth 60 fps locked at very high settings preset with my rx 6600 and it 12100f. In two hours I've only seen 2 stutters, and they very really short. I also haven't seen any broken textures. Game is running perfect for me.
Great to hear. I hv rx 6600 too but paired with r5 2600
@@cinder3150 I have the same gpu and cpu, I feel that the ryzen 2600 is very weak for this game because it prevents the gpu usage from going up and therefore the fps goes down when swinging very quickly on tall buildings.
Who goes around and cleans up all of Spidey's webs after he's done? He leaves a mess everywhere he goes.
😂
APU builds are awesome, Wouldn't mind having one for DDO