Here is an edit for you guys asking about "The line that is marked/engraved on the spool" Yea it's all personal preference but that mark on the spool is a good reference point to spool up just past that line if you are targeting something for maximum accuracy. Especially using light crank baits. I primarily crank with this reel and it's hits on a dime. It's great because you don't need to use much line to flip/ skip a jig or crank specific targets. Especially for respooling before events, it's no big deal to respool. Cost is minimal. Depending on your technique you can absolutely put as much line on the reel as you want. The sv system works to its maximum performance if you dont over spool too much.
The tat is incredible. Actually the tat and my coastalnuse 7075 aluminum spools instead of the duraluminum in the z. Whatever that alloy boils down to. The z also has both bearings on the spool which might be the slight weight difference. And might be whats behind the svBOOST instead of sv like my tat and coastal. Supposed to be "free floating" on the z. Probably also why the lack of the rod running out of spool on the z. All diawas are killer. Same with shimano. Same with lews if you stay away from mach series. My speed spool lfs is way better than the top mach series. They made to target kids with the names and colors and cheaper graphite frames. And p.s. Adjust ya zero adjuster to the spool tension you like. Keep mine right under being sloppy like yours was. My coastals was pretty close to right but still needed adjusted.
It says in the Tatula specs that the spool is made with "Super durilumin" Also yes i have already broken the rules and adjusted the zero adjuster. You are right, it works exactly the same as a spool tension knob. Tight lines!
I’m not sure if your correct about the reference line on the spool to fill the line too. I believe that line is if you want to do finesse application. 4 or 6 lb test line and quiet presentation. If you want to fill the spool 1/16 from the bevel on the spool you’ll get distant casting.
Yea it's all personal preference but that mark on the spool is a good reference point to spool up if you are targeting something for maximum accuracy. Especially using light crank baits. I primarily crank with this reel and it's hits on a dime.
The plastic drag star doesn't make a difference in performance, it does reduce weight. In higher end reels they usually make them lighter. Probably why it's plastic.
One of the key feature to get a 2021 Zillion sv is the SV boost system. I think you should put smaller diameter line to fill up more line in that spool to really put their braking system to the test for long casting distance between the old SV and new SV boost. For bass fishing is fine, but for salt, 135 feet of line is just not enough, I usually spool up 165 yard of PE1.5 braid on my tatula sv, it can easily reach 135 feet on 1/2oz lure. You're video is great, but just missing the review of SV boost system.
Hey yes you are right about filling the spool up more. This video was when got my first Zillion so i was just trying to do an even comparison. Now that i have fished a ton with both, I feel like I should do a follow up on this video. The zillions still run smooth and quiet. The tatulas are all due for maintenance, they feel gritty. I still use and prefer them for throwing crankbaits but they need routine service.
Definitely remove play in any tatula by using the zero adjustment by engaging the spool then adjusting the spool tension knob till spool play is just too no play
I want a tatula sv 103 limited or a zillion but I don’t know what version to get besides I know I’ll get a JDM version of what ever one I am getting, I want a rod with a lot of Bend or action so I can whip the lures easily, lots of guys have too stiff a rod and end up not being able to cast well especially with lighter lures.
Great video. Just got my first tatula sv and love it. Was curious about the zillion but never put my hands on one so I dipped my toes in the daiwa water with the tatula
Thats awesome. They are excellent for crankbait reels. Great for skipping a jig as well. If you like it you can still grab a Zillion later on down the road. Tight lines man!
I have Tatula , Curado DC and SLX DC XT.. All great casting maschines once you dial them in, but both shimanos are much smoother on the retrieve. You won't go wrong with any of these, it's down to personal preference.
They are both good for their value. If you are on a tighter budget go with the Tatula sv. You can almost buy two for the peice of one zillion. If you do not have a tight budget go with the zillion, it is more refined.
Adjusted the zero adjuster after few casts 😁it was very loose from the factory..it still handles 15LB (0,13mm) braid excellent, being loose or tight. Love how stiff the zero adjuster is; less chance for spool tension to become lose over time causing those dreaded overruns
Yea it's all personal preference but that mark on the spool is a good reference point to spool up if you are targeting something for maximum accuracy. Especially using light crank baits. I primarily crank with this reel and it's hits on a dime. It's great because you don't need to use much line to flip a skip a jig or crank targets. Especially for resooling before events, it's no big deal to just respool. Cost is minimal. Depending on your technique you can absolutely put as much line on the reel as you want. Sv system works best if you don't over spool.
I have not fished with the old model but i can tell you from my research that the old model is a bit of a bulkier reel. They both have sv spools but the newer one is believed to handle light lures even better. Like small crank baits.
The zero adjuster is simply a spool tension knob. It is preset from the factory for optimal use. I have found that you can adjust it just like a spool tension knob no worries.
Yes, there are a few with the zillion. The one that stands out to me most is the gears because quality was comprimised here. The jdm has aluminum gears and the US version has brass gears. Brass is stronger. The jdm market claims that they used aluminum on the Zillion because the bass are not as big is Japan. (That is the reasoning my research has lead me to anyway.)
@@dktourfishing Well some americans are known for reeling, horsing in bass 😉 but I haven't read about Daiwa alugears wearing out premature even in US. But then I havn't put a lot of research into it. Anyway I went with the JDM version made in Japan, the US model is made elsewhere, Thailand as I recall.
Here is an edit for you guys asking about "The line that is marked/engraved on the spool" Yea it's all personal preference but that mark on the spool is a good reference point to spool up just past that line if you are targeting something for maximum accuracy. Especially using light crank baits. I primarily crank with this reel and it's hits on a dime. It's great because you don't need to use much line to flip/ skip a jig or crank specific targets. Especially for respooling before events, it's no big deal to respool. Cost is minimal. Depending on your technique you can absolutely put as much line on the reel as you want. The sv system works to its maximum performance if you dont over spool too much.
The tat is incredible. Actually the tat and my coastalnuse 7075 aluminum spools instead of the duraluminum in the z. Whatever that alloy boils down to. The z also has both bearings on the spool which might be the slight weight difference. And might be whats behind the svBOOST instead of sv like my tat and coastal. Supposed to be "free floating" on the z. Probably also why the lack of the rod running out of spool on the z. All diawas are killer. Same with shimano. Same with lews if you stay away from mach series. My speed spool lfs is way better than the top mach series. They made to target kids with the names and colors and cheaper graphite frames. And p.s. Adjust ya zero adjuster to the spool tension you like. Keep mine right under being sloppy like yours was. My coastals was pretty close to right but still needed adjusted.
It says in the Tatula specs that the spool is made with "Super durilumin"
Also yes i have already broken the rules and adjusted the zero adjuster. You are right, it works exactly the same as a spool tension knob. Tight lines!
Yes I adjusted many times and i don’t have any problem
I’m not sure if your correct about the reference line on the spool to fill the line too. I believe that line is if you want to do finesse application. 4 or 6 lb test line and quiet presentation. If you want to fill the spool 1/16 from the bevel on the spool you’ll get distant casting.
More line the heavier the spool gets. Heavier spool is not better for long distance.
Yea it's all personal preference but that mark on the spool is a good reference point to spool up if you are targeting something for maximum accuracy. Especially using light crank baits. I primarily crank with this reel and it's hits on a dime.
The plastic drag star doesn't make a difference in performance, it does reduce weight. In higher end reels they usually make them lighter. Probably why it's plastic.
I’ve broken the drag star on a Tatula.
Great video Dennis you really do your homework
Thankyou. Its keeping me sharp.
One of the key feature to get a 2021 Zillion sv is the SV boost system. I think you should put smaller diameter line to fill up more line in that spool to really put their braking system to the test for long casting distance between the old SV and new SV boost. For bass fishing is fine, but for salt, 135 feet of line is just not enough, I usually spool up 165 yard of PE1.5 braid on my tatula sv, it can easily reach 135 feet on 1/2oz lure. You're video is great, but just missing the review of SV boost system.
Hey yes you are right about filling the spool up more. This video was when got my first Zillion so i was just trying to do an even comparison. Now that i have fished a ton with both, I feel like I should do a follow up on this video. The zillions still run smooth and quiet. The tatulas are all due for maintenance, they feel gritty. I still use and prefer them for throwing crankbaits but they need routine service.
If I were to redo the cast test i would fill the spool more and i would also use a light crankbait.
@@dktourfishing Great, can't wait to watch it! There are not many TH-camr do a reel review with such details explanation, keep it up.
Definitely remove play in any tatula by using the zero adjustment by engaging the spool then adjusting the spool tension knob till spool play is just too no play
You can get a zillion for 250 and a Tatula for 170
Respectful request: Lose the "music" or turn it down so that it's bearely detectable. Helpful review, though! Cheers! 🙂
I want a tatula sv 103 limited or a zillion but I don’t know what version to get besides I know I’ll get a JDM version of what ever one I am getting, I want a rod with a lot of Bend or action so I can whip the lures easily, lots of guys have too stiff a rod and end up not being able to cast well especially with lighter lures.
Great video. Just got my first tatula sv and love it. Was curious about the zillion but never put my hands on one so I dipped my toes in the daiwa water with the tatula
Thats awesome. They are excellent for crankbait reels. Great for skipping a jig as well. If you like it you can still grab a Zillion later on down the road. Tight lines man!
And thankyou, i appreciate it!
I never adjust mine. Tossing 1/2 to 2oz baits on a Daiwa Rebellion Heavy rod and never once adjusted it lol.
Great video....if you had to choose...Tatula SV or shimano DC...after having tried them which would you choose.Thanks
I have Tatula , Curado DC and SLX DC XT..
All great casting maschines once you dial them in, but both shimanos are much smoother on the retrieve.
You won't go wrong with any of these, it's down to personal preference.
@@jurepeternelj Thanks Friend.
When all the best and better for value money..??? Zillion 2021 or tatula 2020..???
They are both good for their value. If you are on a tighter budget go with the Tatula sv. You can almost buy two for the peice of one zillion. If you do not have a tight budget go with the zillion, it is more refined.
I hate the plastic too ! Also the hubcaps on the reel grips . . Hate this on any reel .
Adjusted the zero adjuster after few casts 😁it was very loose from the factory..it still handles 15LB (0,13mm) braid excellent, being loose or tight.
Love how stiff the zero adjuster is; less chance for spool tension to become lose over time causing those dreaded overruns
Fantastic video! Do you think the tatula (2020) sv would be a decent overall crankbait technique reel ? Thank you
Yes, i actually use them for crankbaits and it had improved my accuracy.
@@dktourfishing thanks again!
Anytime
Curado DCs already have brass gears
Thankyou for pointing that out. I may have assumed they were cold water forged aluminum. Ends up my curados just needed some new bearings.
@@dktourfishing I think I’m going to switch to Daiwa because a lot of my shimanos have become super Geary. Especially the metanium 2020.
I bought mine in Japan is there somewhere that I can download the instructions in English
How was that concept c real? Is it even close to the zillion or tatula?
Thanks
Absolutely 💯
Accuracy is more the rod and the fisherman than the reel
Thank goodness !!!! Someone else realises !!! Distance matters as far as testing a reel is concerned. 😂😂
If you filled the spools on the reels how can you spool them at 135’? Both of these reels will hold more than twice that amount of 12lb fluorocarbon.
Yea it's all personal preference but that mark on the spool is a good reference point to spool up if you are targeting something for maximum accuracy. Especially using light crank baits. I primarily crank with this reel and it's hits on a dime. It's great because you don't need to use much line to flip a skip a jig or crank targets. Especially for resooling before events, it's no big deal to just respool. Cost is minimal. Depending on your technique you can absolutely put as much line on the reel as you want. Sv system works best if you don't over spool.
How does the new Tat Sv compare to the old model?
I have not fished with the old model but i can tell you from my research that the old model is a bit of a bulkier reel. They both have sv spools but the newer one is believed to handle light lures even better. Like small crank baits.
I did the new zillion how do i get it back to factory that would be a good video.
Or would i have to send it in.what's the purpose of the zero knob
The zero adjuster is simply a spool tension knob. It is preset from the factory for optimal use. I have found that you can adjust it just like a spool tension knob no worries.
Is there a difference between the jdm and us models?
Yes, there are a few with the zillion. The one that stands out to me most is the gears because quality was comprimised here. The jdm has aluminum gears and the US version has brass gears. Brass is stronger. The jdm market claims that they used aluminum on the Zillion because the bass are not as big is Japan. (That is the reasoning my research has lead me to anyway.)
Thanks for the info. I was actually about to buy the jdm model
No problem!
@@dktourfishing Well some americans are known for reeling, horsing in bass 😉 but I haven't read about Daiwa alugears wearing out premature even in US. But then I havn't put a lot of research into it. Anyway I went with the JDM version made in Japan, the US model is made elsewhere, Thailand as I recall.
The world record Bass was caught in Japan .
Rule number one for a generalised casting test......NO WIND!!!!!!
Tôi cần 1 máy zillion SV TW G
i really want it..but dont have money😂
What line in the inner spool are u talking about as far how much line to put on the reel ?
Need to remove the music. It is too overpowering in the video. Can't hear you talk.
Maybe not that loud but too lound, it takes precedence over what he says.
Dude... It's pronounced Dur-allumin... As in DURRABLE ALLUMINUM... CAUSE THATS WHAT IT IS
Dude how can you compare a Zillion and a Tatula ?
It’s not a similar reel