The Daiwa NEW ZILLION 1000... has COME to K1LL the Metanium!!!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ม.ค. 2021
- Is the new Zillion 1000 with the SV Boost system a Metanium beater?
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Don’t know if it’s been mentioned already but Daiwa reps on other forums have reported that the price difference between the JDM version and the USDM version is because the JDM version is manufactured in Japan while the US version is made in Thailand (like the Tatulas and previous Zillions). US version will also have brass gears, which explains the weight increase of 0.5 oz vs the JDM version (6.2oz JDM vs. 6.7oz USDM). Will be interesting to see if these hold true once domestic versions start shipping.
Thanks for the info and clarification. I knew that price was too good to be true for a Japan made reel lol
I wonder if the usdm version will have a clicking drag as well. Like my z2020 has one but the usdm z200 does not.
@@westrup173 It does
well that fucking sucks
Excellent review. Keep up the good work!
Ahhh! What a delicious packaging crunch!
Thank you for the video! Please compare it to the Bantam MGL.
clicking drag...i am sold!
The last time I bought a TD Diawa-x reel it was in 2002 sounded like a coffee grinder so I switched to Shimano but as I see for 2021 Shimano didn’t really upgrade so I purchased the Zillion 2021 waiting on delivery can’t wait .
The zillion is looking sick bro. It’s in the radar
Casting distance comp with the Met2020!!!!!!
It will be a epic battle of metanium vs zillion 🤩
Mine just came last week. It’s a nice reel.
Designers at shimano all work in daiwa now
Thanx, interesting!
On TackleTour forum i read that aluminium gears on JDM version and BRASS on USDM.
Is Zillion 1000 and Steez A spools fit each other?
Sure does 👍
the Zillion 1000 spool fits in the Steez frame yes
@@88jbc, cool, thanx!
@@THEREELTEST, thanx! I think i know which my next reel will be :)!
You talked about doing a casting impressions on the water with this Zillion 1000 reel.
Trying to decide between the Latest Scorpion DC or the Zillion 1000.
I would really like to see that video if you would please.
Got a notice from Shimano USA to show 2021 releases. Have to see if something new or if they are just bringing jdm versions to USA. Supposed to show on 22 Jan at 12pm. Hopefully it will be better then there Icast presentation!
They should have made this the same matte black as the Tatula Elite such a nice looking reel
Cant wait for u to review the slx bfs..
Já quero uma dessa 👏👏👏👏👍
When you will testing this reel? Thanks.
The "metal" part of the palm side plate you are pointing to is just the magnets isn't it? Or do you mean the housing that holds the magnets?
The Rare Earth Metal magnets always look more metallic I think. Most of the lower end reels use manufactured magnets which are often painted and look like plastic.
The field test... comparison with Shimanos. This is the first Zillion that I may like more than my TD Zillion 100 series I have all 3, the PLA, HLA, SHLA, but don't see me selling my set. Rather adding to it... Lol 🍺🎣🍺🎣🍺🎣😎
Do you have any casting test with other reels?
I want to see the field battle against shimano! 😎💎
When you called this reel design bland I immediately thought you must drive a 2001 Honda Civic that you say is "Tastefully Modded".
Love the reel brother, do you mind telling me which website you purchased that reel from ?
I would love to get a Japan 🇯🇵 version of that Zillion just like you, also wouldn’t hurt to get a nice gift like the megabass you got 💪🍺🍺🇺🇸✊👌👍😎🙏
Japan lure shop. He mentioned it, hence the free jerkbait.
Japanlureshop like Micah said
@@THEREELTEST
🙏🍺🍺✊👍
@@micahspilker9322
🍺🍺🙏✊😎🇺🇸
What do you think is the best baitcaster I can get in the 200-250 usd price? Open to buying from Japan too
Do you think this reel can cast 5gram lure and can I setup with zodias light power
Hi my friend! What is better for the sea longcast zillion sv tv or SCORPION DC 21 ?
Hi! You have a great channel! Please compare zillion and Shimano metanium. Thanks
ok, so this or the metanium mgl? Im looking at these two, thanks
Field test for distance against the Shimano's. It looks like a Shimano but will it perform better than one.
My money is on the shimano
@@westrup173 For sure. I have 1 Daiwa, 1 Abu and 7 Shimano baitcasters and for me they just are much better
What range of use for lures ? max 50gr ?
Do on the water vs the metanium 2020!
I just ordered mine on ebay from Japan...so any day now! So glad you pulled the trigger on one and put up a vid this quick...well before the American market offering. And I agree...it does look like it's aimed at competing with the Metanium 2020. I'm also noticing that they've listed the US version at 6.7oz...so it makes me wonder what differences if any there are with the JDM version.
check the comments, someone sheds light on the differences between the USDM vs the JDM
have you check out shimano new slx bfs reel and their new scorpion dc as well
Used it for 2 weeks, blew my mind
How the casting compared to other reels you have?
@@mikhelbunge890 i have meta13,steez a,cq101 14.. 21 zillion kills them when using under 10g lures. I havent tried above 10g because Malaysia got Movement Control Order, we cannot fish here yet.
@@amirasri3881 Really? The steez!!
@@mikhelbunge890 yeah & i tried the spool boost from zillion to steez a. Theres not much difference in performance. If already have a reel that can fit 34mm spool. Just order the boost spool.
@@amirasri3881 Ok, I think I have to get that zillion tho
This Zillion looks so pretty. I've hesitated between this Zillion and Metanium 21. I choose the Metanium; Maybe later i will grab this Zillion to see how it is. Like you said, it has some Shimano cues.
Zillion is nice but I think a JDM metanium for under $300 is a better deal
@Michael Robert same, i ended up picking a metanium, might pick up a zillion in the near future 😂
Cast battle for sure!!
Field battle for sure
Nice because made in japan but so small i go for daiwa lexa TW 400SL and lexa 400hdsL beacuase can use everywhere because of the drag and line capacity
What Japanese shop are you buying your tackle. I'm looking for a shop to buy reels
It looks like a Shimano, so it should go up against one. Metanium for sure!
This could very well be my very first diawa reel if the casting test goes well. If so I will be buying two as soon as I can. From the outside that price point is outstanding for what you get.
my fishing setup, sienna 500, revros lt2000h, treant 2000, daimos 6000, ryobi tiny 800 and that thing is cost double than my whole fishing setup.
Is this reel can reach any better than Steez Ctsvtw?
Hey man, love your channel! It's a shame those mighty reels are far too expensive here in Brazil. Could you please record a video showing a casting competition between the new tatula sv tw and the tatula elite? Thanks.
I was kinda hoping that the palm side plate and star drag to be aluminum.
Is that the same as the sv tw G
So, I ordered this reel.. haven’t casted it yet. Let me clarify, every other reel in my arsenal is a shimano. I was excited for this new zillion, looks good (first daiwa reel I thought that isn’t hideous) and figured it’d be nice to finally have something of a different brand… this thing feels cheap. The drag star looks and actually feels like plastic, it’s aluminum body, doesn’t feel like aluminum because it’s also half plastic. When I free spin the spool (mind you, I loosened the tension knob) with the dial to 0, it still stops way too fast. Now to the dial, sure, it clicks, but that’s the cheapest plastic on that dial. If this is daiwa, I’ll never understand how these fan boys get so defensive when you destroy them with a shimano. Even shimanos plastic drag stars “ci4” are panted and coated so nice, they never actually feel plastic. I’m extremely disappointed in this zillion. The only thing I even have to say positive about it, it does have that buttery smoothness when reeling. I can’t believe I spent 300 dollars on this thing when I could have just ordered another metanium.
A symptom of the modern world. Buying stuff sight unseen. No sympathy.
Sounds like my kind of reel! Thanks for your review! About to order one from Asian portal.
Nice brahhh
hello i want to buy a new casting reel because i'm not satisfied with the slx dc. i have watched a lot of your videos and think the fishband 100 would make sense. but i have the money for an aldebaran bfs, which one should i buy? What do you think ? thanks for the videos 👍🏽👍🏽 edit: I combine the reel with a major craft benkei ul bfs. I want to fish rigs between 3-7 grams
I have the aldebaran, fisband, scorpion, and the new alphas air tw. I’m a diehard shimano guy but would recommend the alphas.
@@micahspilker9322 how well can you cast 4 gram lures with the alphas?
for those weights if you are trying to distance casts I would still take the Aldebaran. If you want to cast a trout magnet, Alphas Air TW all day. But wait a few hours because Shimano Japan is showing us the new reels for 2021
@@THEREELTEST excited 🤩 thanks for the quick reply. No, no trout magnets. I mainly want to fish light t / crigs, dropshot and free rigs. small twitch baits in 2-3 inch. i have watched all your videos about the aldebaran, i think i will buy the aldebaran. also matches my major craft benkei in terms of color. keep going, such great videos!
I want to see this reel battle shimanos first hahaha
For me, it’s not about casting distance. I like nice things and I want to own this reel. It casts far enough for me and it is smooth and extremely nice. And I LOVE the click drag. I bought the Daiwa Certate 2500 this year and it is by far the nicest reel I have ever owned. I have the Tatula SV TW 103 and the new Zillion should be a nice upgrade in smoothness.
this is the best all around reel on the market for the money.
I think its slick and sexy af. Can't stand overdone. Each their own but its a great reel from the ringer ive put mine through already
Would you happen to know of this reel is saltwater friendly? Couldn't find any other sources other than Japan Tackle.
Daiwa Japans website says yes
@@THEREELTEST Awesome! Thanks for the reply!
US model will have a bigger handle, brass gears, and made in Thailand. JDM model has smaller handle, aluminum gears, made in Japan. I believe there will be a small price difference as well.
daiwa moment
Do one the water test against 2020 met
Acctually I think that a battle against 20 Metanium and Chronarch MGL is better than the battle with bantam, since this reel apears to be a competitor for the Chonarch instead of the bantam!
the price between the Zillion and Bantam is closer than the Zillion and Chronarch.
what about compare the zillion vs antares?
Put it up against the matanium for sure!!!
In case I missed that out... does this Zillion has a drag Clicker system?
😁👍 Daiwa baitcasting reels are great! I got into baitcasters like a year and a half now and started out with a cheap piscifun and then went to a shimano slx dc and just recently purchased my first daiwa tatula ct and WOW it feels much better in hand and smoother than my slx dc and it casts beautifully the magforce z is awesome! I like it so much I enjoy fishing with it a lot more than my slx dc reel the slx dc gears are noisy it sounds hollow sounding when using it and just has a cheaper feel to it... wish I would have spent the $ on a daiwa higher end model than on the slx dc now after using the daiwas.
Field battle!
Casting Battle vs shimanos please
Maybe at the time of the video you wouldn’t save money from ordering from Japan, but you save big time at current time!
Way cheaper ordering from somewhere like digitaka
Definitely see alot of shimano in this reel. However, its not a shimano so its a hard no go for me. I love my shimanos😁😁
I only use Daiwa models made in Japan only. You are missing out bro.
@@SamNguyenV you aren't the only one to tell me that. What model diawa would you recommend for $250 or under? I'm thinking about giving a diawa a try.
@@caseydangar1193 my friends and I fish for salmon and Steelhead up here in the NW. so some of the new reel features of the latest reels like TW don’t really do us any good. I don’t own any reel with the TW. But at $250, there is one that I highly recommend. It is call the Daiwa Alphas CT 70. It is very well build inside and out. It has the old clutch system which has all metal parts. Brass gearing, and multi stack drag which is very smooth at high setting. It comes with 6.3 to 7.2. I recommend you buy the 7.2 because they use a smaller spool diameter. So even 7.2 it still has ton of torque.
@@SamNguyenV I think I'm gonna give diawa a try. Ive got lots of friends that use them. I pretty much have used exclusively shimanos but I want to venture out and try some stuff out. But I feel like diawa is the only other reel manufacturer I would try besides shimano. I just feel like shimano and diawa are in a class of their own with reels these days. I live in the southeastern United States and predominantly fish for large mouth, small mouth, and spotted bass. So I'm gonna give that diawa alphas ct 70 a try. Im super interested to see how feels and fishes. Thats for the recommendation.
Zillion vs Met pleeeeez
Thank you for spreading the gospel
Got the JDM 21 Zillion SV last year... loved it so much, just ordered another one... same 8.5 speed. To me, it fishes like a Steez.. but at 1/3 the cost.
I’m loving that new Zillion. Will it be able to handle the saltwater donkeys??? 🤔
Daiwa says its rated for salt :) Apparently the USDM Zillions will have brass gears, be a little heavier, and be made in Thailand. But you get that US warranty
I'm not sure about field test cast, Daiwa brake system goal is to eliminated backlashes while Shimano brake system goal is cast distances.
Except their BFS reel which lean towards accuracy, ease of cast and distance on micro lure.
yes but why the SV "Boost" then
@@THEREELTEST i heard from someone that they are trying to compete with DC reel, idk why but we all know DC is pretty good in windy condition.
@@307Smallmouth i wasn't talking about bad personal experiences but what those two company presents in Japanese channel.
Um show de Carretilha.
18:33 my reel doesn’t have that 🤔
you mean the clicking drag? Id send it back if its missing that and you wanted it
@@THEREELTEST nah I’m talking abt the cheap feeling buzzer bar
Bought shimano citica, diawa zillion same time. Zillion is finally dead. Was good, but shimano is better. Shimano, easier to maintain, and easier to buy parts. For longevity go for shimano. Citica still going, only issue was finding the screws during the pandemic. Lol.
Can u use in saltwater
Field Test between zillion, metanium, bantam, and steez.
VS the Shimano
I want to see zillion vs metanium cast battle
I outcasted my metanium with the zillion
@@88jbc the metanium mgl lost cast battle distance with the new zillion? What brake setting and lure weight did you use?
I was using a duo realis 120 jerkbait, brake setting at 5
Bring the D and the S
i wanted the classic battle
SHIMANO VS DAIWA!
always.. 😂😂😂
Im getting this reel just for the clicking drag! 😂
wanted metanium first, but now not so sure
Me too, haha. I really like a clicking drag!
Field battle w/ Metanium 20
Zillion vs Steez, first!
This reel is more easy to use than the Metanium 20 for sure.
Field test
what make this reel so special?
It's a combination of the skipping ability of an SV with a Long Cast (sounds like it's way longer ) ability of the Elite with hopefully a dash of Steez refinement.
SV Boost is supposed to address the shortcoming of the SV reels which is short casting distance.. But Im going to find out for myself and the viewers
@@THEREELTEST Daiwa's Hyper video did a pretty good job of explaining that. Personally, I like my Daiwas for close quarter summer action where I feel the control and higher available drag is a plus, and my Shimanos for longer range action Winter, Spring, and Fall.
Liked my Steez sv tw but the casting distance was lacking compared to my Shimanos which I expected, then after 2 years I decided to adjust the "0" adjuster and now my steez casts just as good as my shimanos. The 0 adjuster is a joke for people that don't know how to set up a baitcasting reel. Should have adjusted it right when I first got the reel.
yes, you're right. I been using some of the Daiwa's reel for the past years. I realized the Daiwa's Magforce Z braking system casts better with the spool lose.
I had a 2020 Daiwa tatula SV, I always put my spool tension to side to side play whatever weight of lure I cast. I had flush my spool bearing grease and reapply a drop of Daiwa needle oil in it. I can even cast a 2.5g spoon with a non proper loading Medium Light power rod easily with the brake setting on 3 with mild breeze ahead. I can't cast it as far as I did if I don't have side to side play on my spool.
And the funny thing is I will get birdnest easier and the distance is far out if I have side to side play on spool. So my spool tension on my 2020 Daiwa tatula SV will be always lose. I can cast comfortably and effordlessly from lure weight 2.5g up to 23g.
The problem is. The Diawa spool tension is set too tight from the factory if you want max distance and The Reel Test does all these casts battles and there pointless because he won't adjust it even though he knows its too tight. He adjust them on the Shimanos though of course. No way this reel will casts further then the met 20 if you leave the spool tension that tight, not even giving the reel a chance.
@@jimford8512 yes the default setting fresh out of box is too tight for almost every lure below 1oz. The Reel Test keep mentioning with Daiwa claim the zero adjuster can let angler cast without adjust the spool tension. But I think he did it intensionally, maybe to "protect" Shimano reel? I had tried both Shimano and Daiwa, not talking about the casting distance, the Daiwa SV concept just feel better in term of ease of casting and less of adjusting the brake on different lure weight. I think casting distance is very identical if he reduce the tension of zero adjuster a bit more.
He's def Shimano biased. I also love Shimano but Diawa makes some great reels as well. I will say my Diawas steez, morethan are still as smooth out of the box after 2 years of heavy use. My Shimanos Metaniums and Antares need to be cleaned and lubed every couple months because they lose there smoothness quickly and become geary feeling.
@@jimford8512 Which steez do you have? the one that launch in 2016? What kind of fish do you fish the most? Do you having to problem of main gear chipping off of the duralumin main gear? I am not a big fan of Shimano micro module gear, those small teeth just make me feel unsercure on fighting big fish.
Do a zillion TW HD vid
Lol... "This reel is very bland and boring looking" also, "it could easily be mistaken for a shimano"
they've even changed the brake dial to look like the shimanos. next thing u know, they're going to come out with a centrifugal system
Metanium!!
Casting against metanium first!!
Field battle
I recently had to choose between the Metanium and the Zillion! It was tough, but the Metanium edged it out! It was a ‘can’t lose’ bet either way because they are both quality products that represent their companies well!
how you liking the metanium? i’m in the same position and i’m not sure which one i want more😂 might have to pick both up
@@mojo_dojo_ - Actually, i just ordered it 2 days ago. Still awaiting delivery! I have several angler buddies (one is a professional the others fish weekly) stated that they were both awesome (they all have used or owned both reels) but that the zillion tends to feel a little more rough after the first year or so of intense usage while the Metanium feels new and more refined after a similar amount of usage! That, alone, convinced me!
@@Bacnow your comment is the reason i ordered a metanium lol i was going back and forth for WEEKS and i couldn’t decide, i was almost about to just get both lol
@@Bacnow had a friend mention something similar. Then he spoke to a Diawa "specialist". Guessing his local repair guy. And he said with Diawa, especially us versions, you often need to open it up and inspect first. Usually is under greased and bearing often need some lubricant which apparently helps alot.
Ofcourse maintenance with heavy use is necessary. If you fish alot. And you never take your reel apart, clean ,oil or grease it.
It's gunna get all gunked up and reduce proper operation. If there stuff in the gearing. You can damage the reel enough that new parts is the only answer.
Luckily, Diawa can get you any part you need with little issue. Except perhaps shipping
@@mojo_dojo_is the 2020 Metanium mgl better than a Metanium Dc ?
Can this thing suitable for saltwater?
Yes it can
Does anybody make a deep spool for the PW100?
you can use any deep spool that fits in the XF50 or Spirit Fox in the PW100
zillion vs metanium 2020
Video has been brought to you by SHIMANO
Soon it will be one company Shimdaiwa. Then Daiwa and Shimano fans can hug and kiss each other.
For you only shimano is looking perfect and it is the best.
Metanium all the way... None can beat metanium
Field battle w both shimano next !
Against the steez