Halloween Ends (Dead Meat Podcast Ep. 179)
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- Chelsea and James tackle the divisive Halloween Ends (Season of the Corey).
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MUSIC!! "U Make Me Feel" by MK2
The scene where for a brief second you believe Michael is riding in the back of a motorcycle was the most alive I've ever felt
I genuinely felt a surge of energy in the theater when that happened, I was so excited for it
When does this happen?? I may just watch the movie again just to pretend it’s Ghost Rider Myers 😂😂
@@marlongonzalez3980 It was after Michael and Corey, kill Doctor Mathis, and Allyson’s coworker: the nurse, unfortunately it’s not Michael, it’s Allyson.
"My Bodyguard" vibes for sure!
My buddy pointed out that it’s the two dudes on the dirt bike to me during the movie and I had tears rolling.
What's strangest to me is Laurie is hunkered down, a hermit and ultra prepared for Micheal when he is captured and then lives her life openly and unconcerned when he is confirmed to be out in the wild, free and unaccounted for
They really screwed Laurie Strode over in this.
Because she refuses to live in fear anymore, she did it for 40 years.
It's called she got therapy
@@CPSlayer its called bullshit. a daughter was murdered, the murderer vanished and now she is just cool in just 4 years . yet a dude killed 3 people 40 years before and was locked up, she was acting like the world was ending ever since. no logic. You cant just add therapy if they don't have any context for it or the process.
@@RayValdezPhotography after her daughter died, she realized. All of the being scared and running, doesn’t help at all. It makes sense
At least this continues the Halloween tradition of a third installment hardly involving Michael
Yes
Bruh you got me XD
@@nguyenminhduc5614 you welcome
he had more screen time in ends than he did in 78, of all it's faults this isn't rlly one of them
@@xokirei Not really
When the opening Corey scene started I said “That guy just has his shoes on all over these peoples’ couch. He deserves whatever’s coming.”
When I was watching the movie I was literally mumbling to myself “in no fucking world are BAND KIDS having the confidence or audacity to bully anyone”
That is what I was thinking I did not understanf why it was just random band kids. I guess to get away from the jock steprtype? But still
Have you ever lived in a small town?
That part I actually liked, anyone can be a bully nowadays
I’m a music kid and I 100% agree with this we have no right to bully anyone
How about focusing on how totally cliched and safe and one dimensional those characters were? That’s a far more worthy criticism.
Personally, I think they should have made Corey, Allyson’s boyfriend in the first movie and watch over the course of all three movies as he slowly descends into madness. Would have made this movie much more impactful in my opinion
Definitely. Shoving the two characters we cared about (Michael and Laurie) into the background until the last 10 minutes for some self-insert OC or whatever who then dies 3/4 through the movie and thus has zero reason to be there and no impact on the whole... in the end, we had an old man who got beaten by a guy who got beaten up by marching band nerds vs. an old lady who barely was in the last two movies. Sidelining Laurie for kills was ok since it was expected she'd do lots of shit in ends, but this stupid movie made kills worse in retrospect.
@Christian Mosier it was to an extent. Ends was supposed to be on the same night as Halloween 2018 and Kills, but Covid pushed the two sequels each back by one year. They scrapped that script and went with this one
@@youtube-kit9450 the showdown between Michael and Laurie in H20 and in H2018 were so much better than what this movie did.
@@youtube-kit9450 Bruh what, Corey definitely had an impact on the story. 1) He’s there to continue the whole idea of this trilogy which is the “infection” of evil that Michael inflicts. We see in 2018 with Dr. Sartain and it’s hinted that it has also infected Laurie, and we see it in Kills when it infects the whole town and especially Tommy and Brackett and drives them to do evil things. 2) He serves as a way to pull Michael to Laurie. The whole idea of this trilogy is that Michael doesn’t really care about Laurie, but it wouldn’t at all be a satisfactory conclusion to a trilogy ABOUT Laurie to not even include Laurie. 3) Corey serves as a way for Michael’s legacy to continue on despite the fact that he’s been so weakened by the events of 2018 and Kills that he’s gonna have a hard time fending for himself.
100% opportunity missed. but I like this movie stil
The fact that Corey wound up being beat up by band kids as a fullgrown adult just makes me laugh for some reason lol
But beats micheal…. It’s so frustrating yet so funny
And yet he was strong enough to kick a door open and send a kid flying through wood railing.
@@bedopskepop7936 Yeah that was stupid. He's beaten up by a marching band but fights and wins against a superhuman serial killer.
@Xehanort10 adrenaline and anger can make you do some crazy things. i also think he wasn't trying to really fight back against the band kids because he was still trying not to prove the town he wasn't what they thought
That’s the thing they could’ve been like buff college frat bros but for some reason they were band kid high schoolers??? Lmao
Fun fact I actually am good friends with the actor who plays Corey’s step father. His acting name is Rick Moose, he has played in other films and tv shows but I actually coached high school baseball with him at South Aiken high school in Aiken South Carolina. Awesome guy and I was so happy to see him in this movie
He was one of the best parts of the movie 😊
Half an hour into the movie, I didn't know if I was in the right theater.
Ong
😂😂😂
i just can't get over allyson seeing laurie standing over cory and coming to the conclusion that laurie had just viciously murdered him when cory was literally wearing the michael suit and the mask was beside him on the floor. like, why didn't she notice that!!!
I know I'm a little late here but I wanted to chime in that as my friend and I were watching this earlier I literally said if you would take five seconds to look to your right you will notice Michael's mask on the floor
By a "Michael Myers suit" you mean a mechanics jumpsuit. I.E, his fucking work uniform. Its not suspicious at all he'd be wearing that
@@PR0MAN01 the suit WITH the mask..... sis
@@erotiszm it’s almost like the girl who tried to kill the man who killed her father with zero preparation, getting her boyfriend killed along with his dad, isn’t really as bright as you all liked to pretend she was.
I think that Corey should have replaced Cameron in 2018, which would explain why Allison was willing to run off with him, why she was heartbroken when he left the party, and why his mother is so overbearing, because she doesn't want to lose her son like she lost her husband, Lonnie.
Yeah, I would have rather seen that movie, but Corey is dope
@@johnskahen3494 Corey is a dope who gets bullied by a high school marching band lol
It wouldn't surprise me if elements of the Corey story originally was supposed to be original story/character arc for the Cameron Elam character. Flows better narratively.
@@AntonioGeehow does a 24 year old gets bullied by some black teenager, some “bully” with daddy issues, some freak and some fat girl is really strange to me.
Fun fact about Cory drinking milk, apparently there is a trope in cinema for crazy characters to drink milk.
Explains Homelander
Homelander vibes lol.
You are hiding enemies of the state are you not?
A Clockwork Orange too.
Inglorious Basterds
I wouldn't mind Cory as a character and then maybe, he becoming the "new" Michael Myers. But it's funny how they introduced a whole new character in the supposedly LAST movie, and they kinda did anything with him because it didn't matter. If they introduced him in the first one somehow, and make him an escential part of the trilogy would have had a lot more sense. It's a shame because I think Laurie became almost like a supporting character.
Either he should have been introduced in 2018 or Ends should have had a different name and not been this continuity's last film.
i was honestly thinking cameron could have been written to have survived Kills and gone through the whole "becoming the new Myers" arc
Honestly I think the opening of ends with corey babysitting should’ve been the post credit scene of Halloween kills. Then the beginning of Ends starts off with the whole town hating corey. And corey wanting to clear his name wants to say Michael killed the kid and not him. Then to further clear his name Corey pretends to be Michael myers and kills a couple of people for the first third maybe half of the movie. Creating another town hysteria. And since they basically elude to Michael having supernatural powers this hysteria heals Michael. Then someone chases corey into the sewers where he runs into the real Michael and Michael supposedly kills corey. Then the rest of the movie is Michael doing his thing. Then if they wanted to set up corey being the new killer they could have a post credit scene or whatever where Corey survives and then that can leave the door open to future films where they use corey. I liked that they wanted to try something new but they should have set it up and they definitely should not have made michael a cameo in not only his last film. But the LAST time Michael and Laurie will ever face off. Interesting idea. Horrible execution.
Michael was practically a cameo
They literally killed everyone in Kills though so they didn't have a lot of characters left. It wouldn't of been fun if we got another 90 minute movie of Michael killing we've had that.
This movie is the meaning of “I’m not mad, I’m just disappointed “
No, no, I’m fucking pissed. I was so hyped for this movie, they spent two whole films setting up this “epic” conclusion just to abandon everything they were telling and completely veer off and tell a whole different story. I’ve watched a ton of movies i haven’t liked and I can easily say “eh it wasn’t for me. Oh well 🤷♂️ “ but with this? I’m angry they didn’t deliver the amazing ending they were setting up in the previous two.
@@Steve-xp8we I’m sorry Steve.
@@Steve-xp8weI completely agree I’m so pissed
True
@@Steve-xp8we YOU ARE SO RIGHT
As up and down as this trilogy is, I do love that they make it about Haddonfield's collective trauma and they give Michael a definitive death that the entire town witnesses.
I think the best part of the cold open is that Jeremy's scream when he falls is straight up a pitched up wilhelm scream.
No fucking way
I noticed that too. Nobody believed me until they saw it again. It was the funniest shit.
Lori was forced into a passenger seat in Halloween kills which kinda felt ok because it made me feel like she was gonna have an epic comeback in ends and they somehow managed to shove her back into the passenger seat 10 minutes into ends
I mean the passenger seat move in Kills is logical because being stabbed in the gut is obviously gonna send u to the hospital
@@Rei_Day Yeah and I feel like Kills is more focus on Michael than Lorie
I mean a large part of the point of the reboot was that Michael didn't even really care about her
@@flipify_5044isn’t Michael myers technically the main character of the franchise?
@@louisyon313 Well Michael is the main antagonist of the franchise, not the main character. The main character would be Lorie
“Imagine Michael Myers as a car” made me burst out laughing 😂😂😂
"Motor Myers?"
@@jeffreycarey1680 God damn, that would be a awesome car brand!
@@skeletxnncuh "Motor Myers vehicles may not be the fastest on the market but are unmatched in their weight class for durability, strength and quietness."
@@jeffreycarey1680 I would love to purchase one! How much is it?
I won’t one
I think something to note about Corey getting "bullied" by band kids, is that, to the town, Corey is a "kid killer". Imagine how it would look if Corey fought back or gave these kids any kind of intimidation. Then, it would confirm what everyonee is saying Corey being a monster. Obviously as the audience we know that the kids started it, but to the rest of the town they would see an adult man fighting a bunch of kids.
Plus Corey has REPEATEDLY said how he wanted to move on and have things be like they used to be..happy, bright future, college etc and he doesn't have that now because of the accident and is repeatedly bullied and houdne day the town. Even the gas store owner is rude to him, staring at him and rushing him to buy something and get out.
It's utterly frustrating how people just miss the subtext and refuse to read between the lines or connect the dots. Corey doesn't want to fight back or be a problem....then Laurie gives him some confidence and tries to stand up for himself and he gets thrown off a bridge. Then when he faces Michael Myers, everything changes. Like it's all laid out in this film as to why Corey is the way he is...but nobody wants to give the movie the credit it deserves and just nitpick and complain about it.
Kids starting a fight with a killer that is older and probably stronger doesnt make sense.
Exactlyy
@@RayValdezPhotography
I mean, kids are stupid in general tbh.
@@RayValdezPhotography I agree that it doesn't make sense, but that is dumb shit that younger kids would do that'd be really stupid. It makes sense in a real life kinda way
“And we’re a family and we like to get scared together!” - Heart = melted ❤️ Love u guys!
i think my favorite part of this movie is seeing Laurie starting to move on. Allison says about getting her to go to therapy and to stop drinking, and we start to see how she was in 78 again. and unlike the other timelines, this laurie got a happy ending.
The funniest thing about the reaction to this movie is people saying things like “I can’t believe it…this movie sucked…they made Michael a laughing stock!” because the Halloween franchise has been soooo consistent and respectful of its characters over the years lol
I’m not even mad of a lack of Michael. If they have a logical reason for his disappearance or I can find a logical explanation, then I have my peace with that
"Trick or Treat Motherfucker!"
@@Rei_Day the novel if based off of every thing pitched and considered Canon for the film but basically after killing Karen he left the house and didn't get to far before falling against a fence bleeding. He then kills two garbage men and takes their truck before crashing into the river and hiding in the woods. He then kills a little girl after making her kill her dad, kills Kim in 2019 and her boyfriend at a meat packing plant and ends up killing her in the sewer(Kim is the one who kissed Cameron in 2018 at the party). Then the hermit guy feeds him unconscious people he tricks(the hermit is another patient from the bus who Sartain drive insane).
Not to mention everyone bitching about Michael’s screen time when he didn’t even have much in the original and only had like a minute or two less in this one than he had in kills.
It got people's hopes up because this was a new trilogy with a good start and it just got worse with each movie. Just missed potential but there will be another go eventually
Idk but for some reason I liked when Laurie was trying to be a typical grandma and ended up burning the pie she was making 😂. I liked seeing Laurie act like a normal person for once instead of some cryptic gun shooter
I think the pie tradition might be something she did with her family before the 1978 incident and this was her way of getting back all those years
@@craftingranger7552If i remember correctly, she is wearing similar clothes to the original. It came off to me as her trying to find herself again so she goes back to the last time she felt that way. I haven’t seen the original in forever but maybe theres a lie reference in there that would make it make more sense.
I couldn't get over how much Corey and Alyison (?) Were basically JD and Veronica from Heathers. It made the movie really feel like Halloween × Heathers fan fiction.
Also missed opportunity not making Corey become micheal 2.0 and like takes the magic power micheal has. Like the more he kills the stronger he becomes.
I completely missed the Christine connection in Corey's surname. I figured it was a Sean "Friday the 13th" Cunningham reference, which would have made sense for a successor to Myers.
I love how Lucy is just chilling in the background the whole time, not paying attention or even knowing she's on camera.
Any podcast where Lucy pops up is already a gold episode for me. She’s so cute.
sometimes I would zone out from what they were sayin just lookin at the cat 😂
Don't care
@@balabanasireti Do you just like being miserable…
i wonder the next podcast episode will be discussing and reviewing Terrifier 2?
5:03 There's a trope for that called Then Let Me Be Evil where a character gets so sick of bad treatment for things they didn't do or an accident that they become what people think they are to spite them.
26:45 Not only is there a TV Trope for that it has a real life basis. The Florence Nightingale Effect or simply Nightingale Syndrome. Where the person taking care of someone falls in love with the person they take care of, whether or not the person reciprocates the feelings do not matter. Nightingale herself never had a documented case of this herself, so I'm not sure where the misconception comes from.
I think the term Florence Nightingale reference may come from the fact that the story of Nightingale romanticizes the nursing career. I remember seeing WW1 nursing posters encouraging girls to become nurses in order to find themselves a husband.
If I remember it is from a fictional novel based on her story as a battlefield nurse during the civil war and a soldier that falls in love with her. I read it in school.
Halloween Ends is Friday the 13th: A New Beginning.
🤔🤔🤔
Bruh must have though it got more like🤣
A flashback scene to 2018 (during Halloween Ends) showing Corey being bullied in High School (same school Allyson goes to) and Allyson maybe coming to his rescue or maybe helping him up after an attack would have been a good introduction that they at least knew each other before Ends. Could have happened when Allyson was bandaging his hand and maybe mentioning the incident that she thinks Corey may have forgotten but then he reveals that he never did forget that. Boom, relationship starts.
With her dating the cop and then falling for Corey, to me it read like she was traumatised from the attack and being with someone who was kinda dangerous made her feel safe like if he could kill others then he can protect her.
Ah yes "he accidentally yeeted a child off the stairs and gets beaten up by marching band nerds, now this is the bad boy I feel safe with"
@TH-cam-Kit94 I'm talking about after he changed. She told Laurie she knew he killed people and was gonna runaway with him anyway
@@youtube-kit9450 they literally bonded, it wasn’t immediately love at first sight
26:36 The trope where caregivers fall in love with their patients and vice versa that you see between Allyson and Corey is called Florence Nightingale syndrome... Back to the Future taught me that one!
Same here! 100%! I had to see if someone else was going to reference BttF or if I was the only one who remembered lessons from Doc Brown
Surprised neither of them knew that
Thank you guys for always just being there. Literally no one I talk to watches horror movies, I asked my roommate if he had seen Halloween Kills and he was like…. That’s the new one by Rob Zombie… I just wanted to die on the inside. And I’m so grateful that I can listen to y’all talk about these movies and like y’all know your shit.
I wasn’t the biggest fan of Halloween Kills (I make fun of evil dies tonight, I still can’t get over how funny that scene was) so I had pretty low expectations, but was blown away by how much fun I had watching this. I guess I wasn’t concerned about the lack of Michael, but was really shocked by everyone’s reaction. I loved this.
i had the same experience!!☺️🤝
Absolutely same
Same!! I enjoyed it so much honestly
Fucking love Halloween ends
i like Halloween ends too 😭
It would've been legit so funny if Sandra's "kill" won the Best Kill on Dead Meat Horror Awards and then we got Halloween Ends :D
Chelsea's hair looks so pretty omg
The flash in Corey's eyes when he's being grabbed by Michael was actually just Michael recognizing Corey having the same blank death filled eyes as him so he let him go.
Lmao
That's what I figured. As much as the franchise flip flops on exactly how powerful michael is, whether peak human or superhuman, I didn't buy the evil power transfer thing. Plot armor is what made corey dangerous, right up until it didn't when the movie switches gears and finally gives us laurie vs michael
I also think the entity inside of Micheal myers started a transference the shape into Corey for that reason
It’s still done so bad. Nothing in this movie can be justified. The missed all the shots and is so disappointing
@@Notmatb exactly
My anger issues can't handle the mob blaming the random guy. It's like the scene from The Mist when they threw the guy out of the store and blamed him for the actions of his superiors.
This movie made me bORED to tears. Even if I did laugh my ass off three times, it doesn't make up for the disappointment. First time was Jeremy. I know that's awful but it caught me off guard and when realization kicked, I cracked up.
Second time was when I thought Michael was riding on the motorcycle with Corey. We all laughed if anything since I yelled out "WHOA IS COREY CHEATING ON ALLYSON WITH MICHAEL?!"
Third and last time was Corey tryna square up to Michael and... actually succeeding. Still mad.
God, if they actually went with Michael riding on the back of Corey's bike would've made this the greatest horror movie of all time. I don't know why but I got the 'Happy Days' theme in my head.
So, I wasn't the only one who got "self insert OC" vibes from Corey, right?
Definitely and this is coming from me who actually didn’t mind what they were trying to do with his character.
It’s literally like the writers looked up Halloween fan fiction on wattpad and picked for first result to write the script
No. I felt like I was reading a Wattpad novel but not one of the better ones. Just replace Corey with a one direction member and give Alice a messy bun
Oh my god it EXACTLY gives those vibes, that's spot on
It did have the vibe of one of those Slender Man fan fics that revolve around one of Slender man's young male proxies. Down to the creepy mask.
Corey was talking abt the homeless person he killed but allison thought he meant jeremy and he just went with it because the excuse worked
That’s what I assumed as well
It's good to see that Michael Myers got to cameo in his own movie.
U talking about the Nick Castle cameo or the joke that Michael isn’t even in his own movie much
The trilogy wasn't really about Michael tbh, it was about grief, trauma and evil, he was just a vessel for evil
@@craftingranger7552 Most Halloween fans don’t understand that, lmao. All they care about is seeing Michael run around Haddonfield killing people for the 15th time.
@@LiterallySpikeSpiegel Bullshit. It was about Michael and Laurie. This trilogy is not as deep as some people like to think. The 2018 was clearly written without any underlying theme. They just went up their own ass with the sequel scripts.
@@LiterallySpikeSpiegel Ends sucks . Micheal Myers is Halloween. These four yes FOUR Horrible writers trying to make more of Halloween it's a fking slasher Franchise
. They absolutely RUINED a Horror icon just like Carpenter and Jlc wanted ... They both are still jealous that a fictional Slasher Icon is still and will always be more famous than either of them . Moustapha Akkad would of never allowed it . Malek Akkad and Jason Blum Dumb had a falling out, I can see why cause DDG thinks him and his cut - rate writers add- in jlc who thinks Laurie Strode is what people go see at a Halloween movie have a blank canvas to rip-off several movies and mesh them into a Rom Com this movie is just embarrassing . Micheal Myers will be back and the rest won't Thank God.
25:59 I love the guy in the background laughing
Are they doing a kill count for Halloween Ends? cuz its been 2 years and they stiil haven't done one. If they did lmk please
I'm firmly in the camp of "I didn't particularly like it, but there are a lot of things to appreciate about it". Trailers really did sell a completely different idea of what this movie was gonna be. Kinda itching to rewatch it when the Blu Ray comes out though!
Halloween Kills did this as well. The trailer made it out to be Laurie and family continuing their battle against Michael with the town vigilantism being a side plot. Then the town vigilantes turned out to be the ENTIRE plot. That completely sucked the air out of it for me.
@@AMonitorDarkly yeah, in my opinion, the marketing team really set wrong expectations for those two movies. On its own, Ends is decent. Kills is just kinda the unfortunate middle child.
I had fun with this movie. My friend came over for a movie night and we just roasted Corey and Allison the entire time. We enjoyed it in a cheesy Wattpad novel kind of way
This is the exact thing I did
Me and my brother watched it, he enjoyed the scenario of Michael having a sidekick, but his only issue was that he thinks they should introduce Corey earlier which i agree with
@@Rei_Day Either should've introduced him earlier, or not killed him off in this one.
@@famousthaneus9810 yea
Yea I can enjoy it that way I just wanted something...not that haha
Another thing with the mom at the bar, she’s wearing the same flapper costume from 4 years ago and like took the time to finger wave her hair?😂 and Kyle is pulling her back just like that Housewives meme😂
It was bizarre to me at the very least that Corey didn't also kill the mom at some point in the movie considering what had happened to him. But yes, that's hilarious LOL
The reason that The Thing is being shown is that in the original Halloween the original Thing is one of the movies Tommy and Lindsay were watching. The reason they used the Thing in the original is it's one of John Carpenters fav movies and had a huge impact on him as a wee fella hence the remake. However nothing could save this movie.
I like to view the trilogy as a ripple effect of the events of the first movie
2018: how Laurie's trauma affected her and her family
Kills: how Laurie's trauma and fear infected the town
Ends: How the towns trauma and fear affected Cory
The town needs a boogeyman and someone to blame for all its problems, I personally enjoyed this movie
I like this, Laurie's trauma created the fear that ultimately corrupted Corey. It's kind of full circle
This, exactly this. Halloween has never been about Michael, it's about evil and the effect it has on people. Michael is in Ends less because that evil is following Corey, which is why Michael comes back for the finale - settle the old score and take back up the mantle of evil.
I liked it so much. It was very different. Just a shame its the last Halloween we will get for a long time. However, I loved how they took so many risks. I think this movie will have a lot of lovers over time, re-watching it makes it better every time as you know that the Michael-Laurie piece of the movie is very underbaked.
Y’all’s hair is at peak awesome right now. Killing the hair game! Also love the review this movie is so tough, I wish this was the middle sequel and kills was the final (with minor changes)
Sidenote James been filling up my screen a bit more recently, looking big James😤💪
I was wondering if it was just me or if James was looking a bit thicker...
So, when I went to see this movie, right as the movie finished up and the credits began, my partner and I turned to each other, both thinking a lot about what this movie was, I said it is faulty, but I did end up liking Corey, and the people in front of us stand up to leave, and the guy turns and looks at us and smiles and walks out... My partner and I were then thrown off, "That looked a lot like Corey...???" As we walked out of the theater, turns out it was! He was in town filming for The Hardy Boys, so that was pretty wild to have happen, we got a picture and he was so nice!
I prefer this to Kills, I thought it was interesting what it was trying to say, and I appreciate all of the performances that came through, but yeah, the story is a bit off, but it's better than the really generic Kills, felt like they were trying something different at least.
I think we needed something different in the Franchise. Its only the end of one timeline and they style really felt like the 1978 and 2018 one merged.
I feel the same, the story's a little off in places but ultimately I appreciate what this film is trying to be and what it's trying to say; people create their own monsters (and I'm a huge fan of Christine so I appreciated all the homages and nods to it in Halloween Ends).
Honestly, I love how you guys covered this movie. I felt the exact same way after watching it. I have watched it two more times since because part of me wants to really like it, and the other part is just completely perplexed by everything about it. But “let down” is the by far the best description. Love you guys! Keep up the great work.
James and Chelsea said they probably disappointed everyone, but this review honestly makes me feel so seen lol 😂 I had mixed feelings coming out of Halloween Ends - I liked it as a film, but not as the conclusion of a trilogy. In my opinion, if there's ever a movie to make Michael Myers the focus of, it should be the one that he dies in. That said, I appreciate a lot of the scenes, the cinematography, the acting, and the themes that Halloween Ends deals with. Thanks to James and Chelsea for covering this film!
“And we’re a family and we like to get scared together!” 🐈 Def déjà vu vibes. 😂 Started listening while getting ready for work and had to rewind to make sure they meant the cat 🐈.
(It reminded me of their early engagement + husband/wife intros. 😂 😅🐾)
“It’s like Elden Ring” what an absolute queen
I'm so glad that Lucy is part of this conversation!
If you guys noticed, this trilogy replicates the first 3 Halloween movies
Halloween 1978 = Halloween 2018
Halloween II 1981 = Halloween Kills 2021
Halloween III 1982 = Halloween Ends 2022
Meaning that Halloween Ends takes the anthology method focusing on a new killer but still involving the Shape
Halloween: we’re boyfriend and girlfriend and we like to get scared together
Halloween kills: we’re engaged and we like to get scared together
Halloween ends/ we’re a family/married and we like to get scared together
I love it!!!
However Halloween ends was horrible lol
The thing about Halloween Ends is that the underlying themes are great. If this were it’s own standalone film, it would be pretty good.
…But it’s a Halloween movie. Mad props to the actors trying to make it all work, but man what a letdown.
"she's probably not even getting overtime!" What a working class podcast 😄
I’m so surprised that they decided to put Roy Burns in Halloween Ends! Bold choice!
halloween ends was a pain to watch through. if corey was introduced in the first movie or even the second, i wouldve been hooked to this movie when i was watching it
When I first saw this and I still feel this way. Halloween Kills is a different version of Romeo and Juliet. This romance is so quick, the lovers make foolish decisions, and everyone dies around them.
I love that the first episode with Lucy co-hosting on the new set is also the first episode my cat is watching with me.
Michael Myers must have some dreamy eyes to turn people evil.
I can't believe they had Michael Myers get beat up by a band kid
Who gets beat up by other band kids!
SEVERAL band kids
He wasn’t a band kids lol
By a babysitter! And that’s one of the films better points
Meanwhile in Halloween Kills, he’s on a massive rampage, almost like a feral animal and they reduce him to nothing in this one
I took my family to see this with me - I had first taken them to see the new Scream earlier this year, and they had really enjoyed it. My mum, who is a massive scaredy cat, literally burst out laughing when Michael went crowdsurfing. And they all told me they didn't find it scary at all, to the extent that my brother was cracking jokes out of nowhere last week about it being the worst film he's ever seen.
Ngl, I was hoping you guys might have liked this one since I remembered you being mostly kind about Halloween Kills? But not super surprised, since it does seem to be the consensus that people don't care for it. Ah well! Still enjoying the episode.
I will continue to be one of the people who really dug it, despite being a huge Halloween fan haha.
37:50 you can actually see Michael walk up to Corey before he drags him into the sewer for a second
I didn't even see it , I have to Say that that is a nice catch !
I watched this movie with my mom and half way through the film, she turned to me and said “Joey this is your fault.”
I like Kills for context
Aside from "evil dies tonight " (hospital portion).....Kills is decent in hindsight.
@@jasondavis2995 I disagree
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halfway through I was yelling at my TV. I stuck with it until the part where the cop sees a dead body, gets attacked from behind, and then proceeds to go follow the guy who attacked him into a sewer pipe. It was at that moment I realized that it was just a bad movie.
After three characters didn't die via neck stab I can only conclude that the neck is the most likely place to survive a stabbing in this continuity
This makes it funnier that a neck slit is what does Michael in
For my money this is easily the best of the new trilogy and one of the best sequels in the series. The execution isn’t amazing but I appreciate the big swing.
Crying at kid that looks like a mix of Danny and spencer. Most random pair ever but you nailed it 🤣🤣🥰
Lucy doing her hardest trying to steal the show by being completely adorable
It honestly feels like two different movies in one. More than half is basically an origin story, but then they skip to the rest with out a proper set up, it just happens, I find the later half of the movie really good. I've seen all the other Halloween movies and I liked this one, not in it's entirety, it could've used another 10 or 15 minutes to connect both parts of the movie, plus having more of Michael.
i agree that it felt like two different movies and both parts didn't work for me , since this is such a small town introducing corey in the first two movies wouldn't have saved this movie but it would make it less of a shock on why this random man is getting so much screen time when this is supposed to be laurie and michaels big ending
I will say, the opening scene was great and the blowtorch scene got a physical reaction out of me 😭 the scream I let out lmao
Putting Michael in the grinder at the end is like what happened to Christine at the end.
For some reason, a lot of psychopaths in movies are shown drinking milk. You've got Anton from No Country for Old Men, Alex from A Clockwork Orange, Homelander from The Boys, and the villain from Inglourious Basterds. So, with Cory, I think they’re trying to show that he’s a psychopath too.
Man, I loved this movie. Hope people come around to it in the years to come
I hated the part when willie the kid got his tongue cut off it made me feel sick and i hate that kind of stuff
I feel the same. I thought it was such a good film.
Yes! Thank you! I really enjoyed this whole trilogy. Ends has its flaws, but I loved it.
Halloween ends kill count plzzz james😭😭
My friend said this movie felt like Fanfiction and now I can't help but think that's what this was. It was so ridiculous. Pros: Opening scene, How they disposed of Michael's body, Laurie and Hawkins; Cons: The rest of the movie.
I love how with so many different franchises and mediums there always seems to be a big three
Decided to rewatch this, and the "Corey, what are we gonna do with you" is getting me lol
I’m just now watching this because I just watched the movie. But if Meyers is making Corey succumb to the evil and Corey told Laurie that she should’ve as well, does that mean that Meyers was trying to make an evil army? 😂😂
James’ arms look HUGE this episode!
I can't unsee it 💀
bro when are we gonna get the kill count for this movie
Pre-Game Teaser was awesome! It definitely kept my attention the whole time. Everyone involved did a great job. I cannot wait until I can see the whole movie and own it on DVD and/or Blu-ray.
It’s the Joker effect. “One bad day” can cause a lifetime of domino collapse. Corey’s story should have been the start of the new trilogy and melded with Michaels story. This should not have been the ending. I love the premise as long as it’s not messing with Michaels story.
Have a great Thanksgiving James and Chelsea! ❤️
I personally love this film. It works as a conclusion to the trilogy. It was never about Michael, it was about evil and it was nice to finally see Laurie get a happy ending. They should've kept the scene where Kim and her boyfriend die in the abandoned meat packing plant. It is such an extremely mixed film and I just think they wanted a timeline in this film that committed to a theme and committed to killing Michael and letting Laurie live in some sense of peace but I'd love for them to build off of the original ending which is in the novel where it is implied that Lauri becomes the next shape.
People would’ve been less angry of Halloween Ends if the trailers were honest and just say it’s the Corey Cunningham Movie instead of scamming people with the Laurie vs Michael storyline again.
I think they wanted to trick ppl like how they tried (and failed) to hide the fact there was a copycat in the trailers
True, but they wouldn't have come to see corey. Gotta reel em in with the icons. Hated the bait and switch
One fascinating trio of movies to look at is OG H1 and H2 with H4 Return. That’s a trilogy that shows evil never dies and only transfers. You get closure with Michael dying in the cemetery by the cops and Jamie becoming evil at the end to carry the evil never dies trope. It’s a nice trilogy when you look at it in that light
Maybe in this Universe John Carpenter made a retelling of the original Halloween called 'Thanksgiving'.
I apologize if it exists already but hearing that Halloween isn’t in James top 3 Carpenter films makes me want to hear a podcast on Carpenters films. I love him.
I had fun watching- I deffs thought the same as you a few times during. I was never a huuuge fan of the 2018-2022 trilogy, so watching it as just another Halloween addition and not the end of the trilogy, it was an okay time.
Allyson being in the part of Corey would've been really good though!
As soon as Cory dies, it immediately clicks that every single thing that happened beforehand was a giant waste of our time. Just padding until we get to the actual thing we want to see.
The last nine minutes are the only reason this isn't among the worst of the Halloween series.
This is literally how I felt. Had we of had more buildup from a previous film, or if we were going to see Cory in another film then I'd have been fine with his character. But as soon as he dies I'm literally like WHAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF THE PREVIOUS HOUR AND A HALF
Corey didn’t die though?
@@kiaxxv he literally did lol
@@kiaxxv He got his neck snapped at the end? Lol
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Yeah he did.
He stabbed himself then Mike cracked his neck
I wouldn’t say I deeply hated this movie but I’m left feeling like a lover scorned. Looking back on the good times and imagining what could have been. For such a monumental and epic franchise end it felt underwhelming and jumbled. In a way to have a definitive ending at all feels like somewhat of an injustice.
I haven't watched this episode yet. I'll try and watch it soon. So I'll leave a general point here and then update based on the conversation.
This whole idea this movie introduced would have been amazing to explore...if they introduced it in 2018. Then the story can naturally go from there. At the very least, combine Kills and Ends into one movie.