This Is The Fastest Ryzen SBC We've Ever Gotten Our Hands On!
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Welcome to our review of the groundbreaking X86 Single Board Computer powered by the Phoenix Point AMD Ryzen 7 7840U APU and supported by a Radeon RDNA3 780M iGPU. This compact yet powerful single board computer is a game-changer for enthusiasts, offering unprecedented performance and versatility in a small form factor.
🚀 Key Features 🚀
➡️ AMD Ryzen 7 7840U APU: Experience blazing-fast processing power, thanks to the AMD Ryzen 7 7840U APU, which ensures exceptional performance and efficiency.
➡️ Radeon RDNA3 780M iGPU: The RDNA3 iGPU pushes the boundaries of integrated graphics, providing impressive visuals and delivering an outstanding gaming experience.
➡️ Up to 64GB DDR5 RAM Support: With the ability to support up to 64GB of DDR5 RAM, this SBC ensures you have all the memory you need for multitasking and resource-intensive applications.
🎮 Gaming Performance 🎮
This X86 Single Board Computer is not just for basic tasks. It can handle AAA PC games and high-end emulators with ease. Whether you're into the latest gaming titles or reliving classic console experiences, this SBC has got you covered.
🕹️ High-End Emulation 🕹️
Run emulators for popular consoles like PS3, PS2, Xbox 360, and more. With the combination of the Ryzen 7 7840U and the RDNA3 780M iGPU, you can enjoy your favorite retro and modern games at their best.
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00:00 Introduction
00:26 Unboxing
00:46 Video Sponsor Ad Spot
01:51 Overview
02:52 Adding Ram And Storage
04:31 Size Comparision
05:04 Overall Performance
05:55 4K Video Playback
06:22 AMD HYPR-RX
07:00 Cyberpunk 2077
07:28 Forza Motorsports
08:00 Assasins Creed Mirage
08:18 Spiderman Remastered
08:39 Forza Horizon 5
09:06 Starfield
09:34 PS2 Emulation
09:47 Xbox 360 Emulation
10:09 PS3 Emulation
10:32 First Impressions - เกม
I can just never get over how incredible current gen CPU and GPU tech is.
2003 was really not that long ago (twenty years sure but I went from being a kid to a young man in that time and it feels like just yesterday) and the idea of having a board the size of a two pop tarts side by side that can run ANYTHING at good framerates let alone some of the most demanding current titles at 1080p was just absurd back then. You expected you would have games with amazing graphics, sure, but you didn't expect it to be possible using so little power and in so small of a package.
We truly live in an age of wonder.
The next 10 to 15 years are going to blow your mind if you thought this was amazing not that it isn't because this is pretty crazy.
Agreed brother! Just wish we had another cpu maker to drive innovation, kinda like the gpu space. Cytrix ftw! LoL
If you think about it though this is really just a gaming laptop without the screen and battery. Makes sense that they could make it this size without it needing to fit a laptop case with keyboard etc. Maybe not in 2003 but I could imagine this in 2010 - but there probably wasn't much of a market for this sort of device then.
Storage too. It's all so wild to see
@@ThereminHero No, it's not. This is less than half the size of the average laptop board, even today. Regardless of 'fitting a screen and keyboard on it - the I/O is still present, and the board size gives them much more real-estate to spread out chips and components.
If these were $200-300 barebones boards, I'd love to see a DIY handheld built around it. Especially if some work was done to support the SBC with the Steam Deck OS 🙏
I expected a little more from a 7840U @70watts. It makes me fully agree with Valve delaying the Steam Deck 2 until a SoC appears that really pushes the current gen games to the next level at the same ~25 watt.
For Steam Deck 2 we'll probably have to wait for RDNA 5 since rumours say RDNA 4 isn't looking too good.
There's the Windows 11 hog that take lots of resources like RAM and CPU; Steam Deck doesn't run Windows.
Valve knows what they want, fewer fast and efficient CPU cores paired with double the GPU cores.
AMD's whole line up is flipped from what gamers want but we can't really expect AMD to cater to gamers until the handheld market is bigger.
The gpu side of the Apu is limited no matter what. Problem with Apu every gen no matter what
Doesn't Valve want to stay at the current performance of the Steam Deck, just with better battery life?
I'd love to see Chimera OS running on this and a big honkin' passive cooler. It could be a silent steambox for the living room.
Seeing this makes me SO excited for their next desktop APU. Hopefully we see it soon.
Same here. But, if I correctly remember, only at the end of 2024 :(
@@rael_gc really? Do you have a source?
This tiny pc can play Star Wars Battlefront 2 in 1080p ultra 50fps. I know it, i have a rog ally. If this pc cost 400, its definately worth buying.
Will be nice to check out the performance of this SBC with an occulink eGPU.
Great review! Thanks. Would be keen to see pricing for sure too.
that starfield performance is pretty good .. looks playable to me, depends on whether you feel microstutters or general slugishness when you are aiming
The 8840u just released hope u get them in soon!
Would be nice to see some beefy cooler on this APU and see what would be max performance without throttling. Also... passive cooler? Imagine Noctua NHD-15 without fan, just passive tower... I'd love to see that on this board.
Next AMD "strix point" GEN but with a real silent 120mm Fan,
>>Alphacool Apex Stealth Metal
Yeah, I was thinking about the exact same thing. If there was just a way to install a quiet Noctua Cooler - This would be the perfect machine. There must be a way
@@pawelgrund4540 Even unofficially, all you need is to press any descent cooler against CPU, so most likely there are no brackets included, but you can always make new ones (must find some cheap metal shop to fabricate them). Also would need new case, like 3d print something, again with a shop to fabricate. I'm thinking for such build for my father, it will definitely cover all his needs, and will be descent quiet machine for many years (without a need of any service).
Thanks ETA PRIME for all your reviews!
@@artbluestack5250 I believe it's not even that hard to built a case even without a printer. There are lots of videos on youtube showing costum builds with wood or plexiglass or other materials. Would be definitely cool to build such a machine.
This would be really interesting for me...i make music so Fan Noise is even more important than max power/cpu speed...is it possible to put an nuctua fan on one of these sbc's?
Nice video, thanks :)
This is the proof that 7840U is one heck of a good design from AMD, they are used everywhere, sold in a lot of forms like this 4x4 box, then the SBcard, in the Rog Ally as the Z1 Extreme ( trust me it's easy to disable the AI circuits than make a new SoC), sold it laptops, etc...
ETA prime is a bad reviewer. There is no possible way he didn't pick up on the UM790PRO crashing.
That success is part of the problem.
The 7840u is in such high demand that a lot of 7840u products are being delayed due to AMD not having enough 7840u's in stock to meet the demand.
@@robertkeaney9905 minisforum shipped me a unit that doesn't work - it isn't stable for more than 8 hours. Every BIOS has update has worsened the problem. There is no possible way ETA PRIME didn't experience this.
Over priced with no upgrade path. Fine for laptops or specific use cases
@@togawearer2799 yeah the issues with the UM790PRO are indeed horrible. I wonder why no youtuber is covering this topic.
Thanks for your video. Great as always.
I wonder what kind of Gekkbench 6 cpu and gpu results can we get? If you have them you can just reply here. Thanks
We've arrived at the moment we've been waiting for . . . zen4-rdna3 bliss.
Thx Prime.
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Dude pulled out a tupperware container filled with SODIMM RAM and NVME form factor drives! Always check your volatile RAM for spoilage and salmonella outbreaks!!! lol. Love the content!
Id love to see this in a gamecube console shell
This with a egpu as a travel/ small ff pc. Very solid performance.
Really good performance by this SBC ✌️
If only you had a 3D printer! Would be fab to see what kind of airflow optimized 3D print cases could be designed for this.
I can't believe ETA prime is at 1.1million subs amazing
great video! 😄
Nice video - you know we need batocera 38 running on this....
Can you test the performance of this box with your eGPU? Great vid!
ETAPrime has a cold!!! hope you feel better bro
Santa must really love this guy .. lots of toys to play with
Hey, great review. Would you spare some time, to test these mini pc's and SBC's with Linux OS (example: ubuntu, pop os etc) for development work flow. Thank you.
Looks great. Would be nice to see how the Steam Deck OS runs on this.
Awesome single board computer. Love your videos so much. What software/tool do you use to show the fps / gpu and cpu temperature in overlay ?
this looks awesome
I'm only young but I still never thought I'd be able to live to see the day that's such a small PC could run a game like cyberpunk at 89 FPS I almost cried
If i ever get my hands on one of these im finna make a whole 3d printed tiny pc with this.
Hi, Thanks for the video, this looks amazing and would be great for a gift. Any idea how i can get my hands on this?
Also any instructions on how you got the TDP up. would be great to see it with an EGPU
This looks like the perfect thing to chuck in an old Shuttle SK41G case with a screwy form factor. (X2 6400+ and a 9600pro currently) - pretty sure the caps are due to die imminently.
Those mini-PC's are getting quite fun nowadays
Thanks for the demo. Early in the video you mentioned that it could run on either 19 or 12 volts, that is very useful. Do you happen to know if the versions in the case can also run on 12 volt?
It is just like a modern PC/104.Wished you could stack them, I guess it is possible but isn't modular in the same way
Yes please a test with chimeraos, and some 4k tests with fsr, in my dreams I replace my xbox with that. Thank you
so at 70 watt this is basically desktop level performance (lots of desktop chips start at 65 watts).
Something like this would be amazing to put SteamOS on it and attach to the back of a TV or bigger monitor and just rock.
I've been watching your videos for a long time now just wondering where did you get that plant ?
Upping to 70W doesn't add too much, I would just go with the 45W boxed version, at least I could use my monitor to PD in.
Assuming that is where it would just bottle neck and need an external gpu
@@GrimReaper1675 Exactly, good point. I could PD from eGPU as well.
Would love to see this with a HTPC OS or maybe an android TV OS
Love the device and the strides these companies make with APUs and Mini PCs
But I will always hate the price on these things. I know why they cost this much, but as much as I want one and have a big use case for them, I cant justify the price being at 5-600.
The day these drop to about 2-300 ill snatch up about 3 of them
These boards looking interesing. Is there any fanless cooling for these boards out there?
This would be a great choice for NucDeck 😮
This thing actually can use AFMF , huge boost for some games , very interesting for emulators
I'm willing to bet this would be easy to turn into a handheld with either a 3D printer or just pay for injection mold case
any insight on how much the 7840Us are gonna cost? I wonder if I can finally have an in-home non rpi cluster 🤔
Would be awesome to see how Arma Reforger runs on 7840U.
FYI the new Anti-lag+ feature is causing people to get VAC banned in Counter-Strike 2. I wouldn't use it in any game that uses an anti-cheat or you risk a ban.
The socketed ROM is handy
*@ETA PRIME*
If you have a RTX dual fan GPU. Like a 4070 TI Super. It'd be nice to see a tiny build (like the single fan 4060 tiny builds you've done). Whether it be in a super small sff case or a mini workstation style case. Backpack size 4070 build
SteamOS would be nice, Batocera would be cool to see, although it probably runs anything flawlessly that you throw at it.
nice little machine. can we see batocera on it, pls.?
Please make a SteamOS with this combo a thing. Would love to see the result.
Does it support ECC memory?
If supported, it looks good as a mini server as well.
Please start putting the model number of the item you are reviewing in the video description, because sometimes (like with this item) it's impossible to find the thing. There's like a million AMD SBC exists.
if the 8000 series of amd igpu's will be as great as they say
i can't wait for the 4x4 using a 8000 series cpu
altho, 1 thing i really want to try, is get one of those M.2 to PCIe slot thingys
and put like a Low profile 4060 on there, see how good it goes
if it went well, i think that would be a real breakthrough point for the Cyberdeck community
how did you get hands on a 4X4-7840U ??
wow that impressive
I wanna see Nobara's steam deck edition used in a video. I'm so curious and I don't really have the hardware to do it myself.
Have you tried the 6400mt/s SO-DIMMs? KIngston does sell them, iirc.
Would be interesting to see how performance would scale with faster RAM speeds, going from 4800->5600->6400.
5600 is max u can use
@@idimidodjimi6760 while it might not be on the QVL, it's worth a try considering ryzen 7000 SoCs are regularly paired with 6400mt/s soldered RAM.
Does this have NVMe to support an external GPU?
I've been thinking about stripping down a single fan GPU, connecting it to an SBC, adding an AIO cooler to the GPU chip and a fan over the SBC, and building a makeshift case around that - that way you could theoretically have upgradeability in a very small and efficient package. I'd be happy if I could see you explore the idea before I make the jump to get parts.
would really like to see you ade inn a2000 ore LP RTX 4060 through the m.2 and se how you would do it and how the performance would end up :)
More PS2 Benchmarks please, try to render 4k on everything. I love this apu, I need to buy it 😊
Man. I’d love to get this and throw holoISO/SteamOS on it to be a nice steam machine for my tv.
I would like to see what you think of Bazzite. They have fixed a lot of things with version 1.3.0.
Hey ETA! How well will this and the other ASROCK 4x4 run Warframe? That and NFS Heat are all I'm interested in for now.
I wonder ways as this or similar could be somehow _frankensteined_ in a shell of a Steam Deck (not without adjustments, for sure) or anything alike, even if 3D printed, since it doesn't seem to see such an upgrade any time soon. 🤔
So the data sheet say's you can have two storage solutions on this board. One is M.2 the other is sata. Would it be possible to use the sata port for the ssd and use the m.2 for an Oculink adapter and use it with an egpu? The seems like it would be a cool little project to test out and make small all in one mini gaming pc for the DIY crowd.
@@N_N23296 More of a fun idea more than anything else honestly. lol
Depending on how happy you are with fps, you could increase the quality of you surpass 30, 60 or 90fps.
I wonder if CRTemudriver / groovymame runs at 15khz on this. If so, instant buy, because it would also handle every PC fighting game alongside mame in a cab.
Can you give some energy measurements, please?
I'd love to see Mac OS on these mini PCs
it would be really interesting to see how this runs compared to desktop apus like:
the amd a10 7800 (old bulldozer apu) or the ryzen 3200g.
The 780m beats Vega 8 soundly (7840u vs 5700g). You can find a lot of video's comparing 5700g to 3200g
a10-7800 would be a joke.. cpu side, 2~4x the cores [depending on how you count bulldozer's shared frontend/fpu between 2 integer cores setup] IPC gains like crazy+clockspeed+actual dual-threading on each core for zen4 vs 2 cores sharing a single frontend/fpu, not to mention the nodesizing differences, igpu side, rdna3 vs vliw4~gcn1/2, and the nodesizing differences.. 3200g, 2x the cores, ipc gains[though not as drastic as vs bulldozer/variants].. gpu side, rdna3 vs gcn3~4
@@niteriderevo9179 its not the point to show that zen 4 is better than bulldozer. what i would find interesting is how much more performance these low power zen4 apus have in comparison to a full 65 watt desktop a10 7800.
maybe i am weird, but i would find that very interesting.
@@DanielRumbacher some extremely rough calculating.. the zen4 apu to match the a10 would be only pulling about 5~15w tdp at most.. my steamdeck [custom zen2/rdna2 apu] matches the heck out an a8-5k build with an rx570 gpu at about 8~10% the total wattage of the a8 build
If this had 2x M2 PCI-E Gen 4 (and one USB4 instead) like some other 7840U boards this would be perfect for SSF/Oculink build.
Yeah the SATA ssd slot seems kinda wasteful.
Can it play 4K with 7.1 ATMOS over Plex (client software)? How about using it as Plex server (especially encoding) over some Linux distribution?
I know it would not be officially supported but it would be interesting to see the Steam Deck Recovery can put Steam OS on it. This is why I hope Valve will hurry up and release Steam OS 2.0 as this would make a great device in the family room. I hope enough people buy this to drive the price to $500 as that would be the sweet spot.
This is more or less a CPU slapped to a cooler. And that is cool xD
Nice! SteamOS please.
Did you get this directly from Asrock?
How could a normal person get their hands on one of these? Can't seem to find these on eBay and the only company that has it for sale in the UK won't sell for personal use only to businesses.
Does anyone know how much the barebones sbc costs?
Add the RTX A500 Pocket to this and it will be an epic combo
Would you consider this to be a good candidate for media server such as Jellyfin?
Could you test Street Fighter 6? I'm still looking for a portable Street Fighter machine that can run it has 1080p on high. Linux testing would also be great as always.
Is the steam deck still a good buy for price to performance ratio?
Or more specifically vs this form factor, could you beat a steam deck in performance for the same price docked stationary on a TV? My steam deck hasn't left the dock in months and really this form factor has more appeal to me if it matches the price but beats the performance (no battery, controller, or screen to factor into cost) sounds possible but this market used to be sooo expensive back in the day
Can you build a low powered NAS with it,please?
I wonder how will this work with higher TDP and overclocking with big cooler
Can you kindly get a power bank like of 10,000 mah capacity and use that to power these, and see how long they last, I feel like arm and x86 sbc with portable power would be amazing but there are no videos where such comparisons are made.
Do you mind sharing what the PSU model you used?
Did I miss or wasn't the price mentioned?
Imagine putting that in a snes classic like case while you run god of war. Wild.
would really like to see chimeraOS on here and really curious as to how well it would run MGS4 i know that is a harder one to run for ps3 games
Would you say this offers about 85% of the performance of the Xbox Series-S ? I'm impressed with this as it is, and am surprised Valve hasn't taken one of these, stick it in a box and call it the "SteamBox" and sell it for $399 for a Base 16GB/256GB version and up to $799 for a 32GB/2TB version. Maybe try one of the versions of SteamOS on this to see how that goes?
Valve has been adding a lot of desktop/docked features to SteamOS so it might be possible they want to make a "Steam Box" but I personally think that because the Steam Deck has been selling so well that effort will most likely go into their next handheld system that will probably be based on this chipset AMD 7840u in a year or two when it's more affordable for Valve. using the Steam Deck with the dock feels like a very console like experience (with all the updates they've added since launch).
The 780m is about an equivalent of a 1060 3gb. An Xbox series x is about a 2080 in performance. One x is about 1070 in performance, so if I had to guess series s would 2060ish in performance.
These 4x4 need a x8 PCIe. Even an x8 SFF connector would make it way more useful
what is the pricing onthis board ? i would like to see a egpu also is there a way to add a bunch of PCI cards to this via (?)expantion
Whats the difference between this and a mini pc?
At this rate, a Steam Deck set top box is inevitable.
Games are running great especially when you look at the amount of vram being used (350-400mb) but a dedicated GPU uses 4gb or more lol I understand that it uses the system memory but why does it show a low vram amount at all when it's system memory where all the textures and stuff is stored..
I'd like to see Photoshop AI filters. They can take dual-digit minutes on even good machines. How would they do here?
I've been using ASRock motherboards for over a decade now and never had issues, so this piques my interest...
Looks like a home run to me. What do you think the price point of this is going to be around?
File it firmly under the "never to be seen available in the public domain" price point.
Overpriced
@@Jimmys_TheBestCop do you know the price?
@@Dvlx1 You think it will be that expensive?
@@bbay1977 Nothing to do with price, its just another product that won't be available to purchase anywhere. Ever.