I can’t even express how wonderful it is to see someone who can verbalize ideas that i have been recognizing for the last year or so. I am excited to learn more of the terminology and viewpoints!
@@CognitivePersonality I'm so excited to hear more about what you have to say about your model. I already own your book so I have some idea of what you might say, but I will really value having you delve deeper into the material in a spoken manner. Really well done thus far!
@@infinitysconcinnity2418 Cheers! That's exactly what I was hoping - these videos would provide an audio-visuo accompaniment to the book :) I really appreciate your continued support!
I am slowly getting used to the terms you are using. I am exploring myself here. And your analyses are kind and critical at the same time. This attitude is so inspiring. God bless you, Harry!
Definitely agree with what you said about gazing at the function that's the opposite orientation of our dominant! It's as if we can see it with clarity but we don't have as much magnetism towards it since the dominant axis reels us back in.
Hey there, interesting thoughts. So I can understand your thoughts a little better, could you clear up one or two things for me? I'm going to do my best to put aside my classical Jungian views and just try to understand your system within it's own context (these are genuine curiosities). I understand that you believe there is no hierarchy, but you do propose that the convergent function acts similarly to the dominant, correct? The rotation of the convergent to the divergent would be somewhat similar to a "grip" in Briggs model? Like an INTJ acting like an ESFP during stress? Do you propose that the function stack more so looks like this - N>F>T>S, with varied uses of the functions in either introverted or extroverted attitude compared to NiFeTiSe? More like NxFxTxSx? Because Ni is potentially Si, but also potentially Ne, do you propose that there is no need for a connection axis, such as Ni being fundamentally connected to Se. For example, you describe Si as being what grounds Ni, but Jungian view proposes that this is what Se does. How do Se and Si differ in relation to the balancing of Ni (or any other function combination like this)? Because types can temporarily "Switch", are there a limited range of types that one type switches to, similar to quadrants? Or are all types potentially all other types at different times? Finally, have you done a video explaining your type coding? Like IST-Fn? If not, I think that would he really valuable. A lot to take in but interesting video!
Thanks man, I appreciate the open mind and, wow, that's a lot of really good questions - as I'm on my phone I'll answer your comment in segments! The Ni-Se axis can definitely manifest as a 'grip', where for a variety of factors cognitive magnetism may be reversed towards the oppositional across many situations. However, I'd also state there is a healthy version of this axial switching that occurs for literally everyone. For example, you as an INTJ would take in divergent Se-Te information, process it within a dominant stack (a mixture of Ni-Fi and Ni-(Ti), though it won't always be I-processed) and often rotate on the Ni-Si axis to expunge via either Se-Te or Te-Se (CPT posits a codec-lens axis too). We don't always switch on an axis to 'use' the opposing stack, but the point is when we do it is often voluntary.
I do believe in type difference between an ENFP and INFJ, and believe the different natural orientations should be included within the stack. So while I believe Ni and Ne are still N, the opposing magnetisms should be noted as whether or not Ne is employed in an Ni dominant there is still a pull towards introverted orientation. So a code would be in my case INT (Ni with Ti auxiliary - both introverted) - Fs (opposing nature and orientation, F as extraveted authority and s as opposing function with potential for suppression aka dual-utilising N dominant).
I lean more towards the belief of multiple types rather than a quadra due to potential for auxiliary-rotation; I also believe we can also 'dip' into the surface of other stacks without necessarily 'switching', though the latter also occurs for sure. In the sense of both orientations of S serving to ground Ni this is where S being a singular entity becomes more relevant. Se anchors an abstract internal reality into the concrete external and is accessed through axial rotation more than dip, whereas Si focuses the internal lens and is far more of a dip function. Due to semantics of the English language these orientation are absolutely both grounding forces, but as Se is the true opposite I would say this orientation has the greatest opposing (and thus anchoring) magnitude. Thanks for your comments and thoughts!!
AsuraPsych Now THESE are the type of questions that are needed to be asked if we are going to properly extend any Jungian model to this nicely formulated model! (Excellent video, Harry!)
Your theory is very reasonable and in my opinion, very accurate. I’ve been analyzing the interactions of the functions and constantly observing in other people how the functions seem to slide in and out. My husband is an ENTP for example, and I can see how he is always exploring new ideas and possibilities with his Ne, but he is seriously getting stuff done in the real world using Se all day long. It’s true that having Si fourth causes trouble when he tries to keep his very chaotic life organized, but Si is still an integral part of his everyday life, for example... both toilet seat lids must always be shut when every family member is done using the bathroom or he’ll get after you about it, he takes a shower every single night without fail, has the same thing for breakfast every single morning. This all based of course, off of my understanding of how I define how the functions play out in the real world. I find it fascinating to study people in this way and I’m seeing the same thing you’re talking about, the functions are very movable and slide in and out quite often. Although, from what I’ve learned from OP about the animals, that seems to be more solid in people. And if you’re an EJ or an IP, you’re still going to have lots of “tribe” issues no matter how much those functions are switching in and out, maybe until you’re older and wiser and can use the other functions properly to balance you out. You’re doing a great job explaining all of this. Keep it up!
Thank you so much! It sounds like we're very much on a similar page :) And yes, Fe or Fi dominant functions will seek to align the individual with humanity as this is the primary utility of these types - the extent to which this is tribal or more plethoric depends on the individual and deeper personality factors :)
Observing the external world with an intense gaze, yes Pippin and I have both been scolded for our 'Gaze'... “Why Did you look? WHY DO YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO LOOK?” (LotR Internal Frameworks: copied and edited from The Evening Standard John Garth Middle-earth was born in hospital in 1916 when J.R.R. Tolkien was invalided from the Somme with trench fever. He had been in battle twice: early in the campaign in a night attack on a ruined village, and again when a German trench was seized in the cold autumn daylight. In between, he had been made battalion signaling officer and spent long weeks in the trenches where he witnessed all the horrors of mechanized death. But just before his fellow soldiers were moved on to another ordeal at Ypres, Tolkien fell ill and was shipped home with his head full of powerful images that were to re-emerge more than two decades on in his masterpiece, The Lord of the Rings. Lying in hospital in Birmingham, Tolkien wrote out in an exercise book the haunting epic of Gondolin, a city of high culture which is destroyed in a hammerblow by a nightmarish army. The worst and best of what he had seen in the Somme soldiery were embodied in the brutal goblin attackers and the elvish defenders, valiant against hopeless odds. Among the dragons and demons in the assault are bizarre machine-like monstrosities which hurl fire or from which troops debouch: the archaic prose might be describing a tank - then newly deployed on Tolkien’s stretch of the Western Front - as seen through medieval eyes. The story of Gondolin was soon joined by a whole cycle of “Lost Tales”, including a creation myth in which the world is shaped by music but ineradicably marred by a rebel angel and his harsh, repetitious discord. The story of the satanic Morgoth’s bid to conquer, pervert and destroy the world reads as a powerful indictment of the misuse of creativity. Tolkien lost two of his closest friends during the Somme, and the Great War claimed the lives of about one in four of his wider circle - young men educated at public school and Oxbridge who typically ended up as junior officers at the sharp end. Tolkien reworked his mythology over and over but never completed it. It was published posthumously as The Silmarillion. In the meantime, in 1937 he had begun a sequel to his successful fantasy yarn for children, The Hobbit. The Lord of the Rings reflected the darkening times and was set in the same world as The Silmarillion, but it springs to life because it describes Middle-earth - our world in a prehistoric era - through the eyes of hobbits. They represent ordinary people; more specifically, the weavers and labourers who formed the backbone of Tolkien’s Great War battalion, the 11th Lancashire Fusiliers. Unlike the celebrated memoirists and poets of 1914-18, Tolkien wrote very little about what he saw in the trenches: but the images are there in the rotten and beautiful faces staring up out of the putrescent meres of the Dead Marshes; in the hobbit Merry crawling in the mud like a dazed animal to plant a knife in the back of his enemy’s knee; in Frodo and Sam, the officer and his batman, sitting in a blasted hole as the world erupts around them, wondering if their end has come. Tolkien’s myth tells another truth about the war: soldiers in that horror were much more than passive victims. They were real people, resilient, cowardly, brutal and occasionally heroic. External Frameworks...“We are Sitting on a Field of Victory...enjoying a few well earned comforts". Huzzah, CPT. I enjoyed this video very much because it gives me an opportunity to listen and learn something new and I always seem to do exactly that and I get to skip merrily along memory land with 'my precious' while we look for exactly the right quote to offer to our CaPt along this Journey.
The Se lenses of Merry and, especially, Pippin are such good examples!! Also absolutely love the biographical information, much of which was new to me - as usual it's a joy to have LOTR references in the comments section :) And - thank you!
Hello Sir! I am trying to find the difference between high-level and low-level cognitive functions. On which parameters the cognitive performance depends? In which categories these cognitive functions fall into (Reasoning, Working Memory, Reinforcement Learning, and attentional engagement)?
Reasoning - cerebral reasoning T; limbic reasoning F Working Memory - Lens>codec; Si-Ti specific recollection without F; Si-Fi specific recollection of emotion; Ni-Ti vague detached recollection; Ni-Fi recollection of hollistic emotional association. Reinforcement Learning - Te-Fi axis Attentional engagement - Se and Si
Hmm interesting. Can you articulate how Si grounds Ni in the internal world? Like when I am in my head, I am basically just imagining things or making sense of things with metaphor, (Ni) what or how does Si play a part in this process?
Ni can indeed be metaphorical owing to it's nature as what is essentially a wide-angle lens directed internally. By dipping into Si, this lens can focus on specific components before zooming out once again to relate that singular value to the bigger picture.
@@dseer13 Where Ni might use a metaphor to encapsulate a broad meaning, Ni-Si would lock on to specific nomenclature, stringing together a coherent sentence while maintaining the breadth of meaning. In a more Te-sense, such as in an INTJ or ISTP, Ni-Si might employ specific mathematical formula to demonstrate what is otherwise purely conceptual. Almost all Ni users hone-in via Si :)
@@CognitivePersonality I've just never heard of the SI cognitive function being described as being able to do what you have described. If this is the case, how would an SI dominant use Ni in their introverted Si worlds?
@@dseer13 Other descriptions of Si pertain to an internalisation of the concrete and tangible. CPT agrees with the correlation perceives this as symptomatic rather than causal - the cause being Si as a narrow lens directed internally and thus fixated upon the concrete. Therefore an Si dominant takes the opposite approach to the Ni dom - the lens begins focused on the concrete and tangible (specific meanings, sensations, memories etc) and dips into Ni in order to relate these to the bigger picture. This process serves to strengthen the concrete, whereas the reverse process (Ni-Si) serves to strengthen the abstract :)
When you say that we can use our oppositional as an alternative dominant function, does that imply that the functions in the unconscious are also changed since you imitate the ESTP? Or does CPT not mention that much about the unconscious?
For starters, Ni-Ti perform a divergent role from the ESTP position, but in terms of Si-Fi from the dominant stack the effect will be rather different - afterall, the Si of an ESTP who has spent most of their life in that position will be very different to an axis rotated INFJ :) But, yes, the INFJ 'falls' into Si in the same way the ESTP would when rotated on the central axis.
Are there any less compacted videos that are not so packed with info at such a fast clip of speaking? It’s great for the Cognitive Nerds who can follow all this but my head is spinning. To me it’s like listening to a 45 RPM on 78 RPM speed. I think you said that in personality development there is a lesser dominant feature that incorporates reality testing into the intuitive knowing state and in your opinion this grounds the personality from being dysfunctionally over dominant? Or maybe not. It is what I was hearing. So that A is grounded by b but not to the degree that it drowns out A but just kind of tugs at it? Perhaps I missed the entire point. It all went by so fast. I do experience that staring thing where I will be looking at someone trying to figure out what on earth they are doing or thinking or saying as if I am annoyed with them but really I am puzzled and trying to judge the situation as to its validity or value - the cognitive dissonance is giving me a go around as my knowing is being tested.. so to speak. And it becomes personal to me because I need to figure it out in order to settle down with it which I may not because I might feel it’s a manipulation to divert me from “seeing” their true motive. I am skeptical and while I might let you think I believe your nonsense because it has no bearing on my own reaction or values.. I really have just given out a pass. I see no sense in wasting my energy on a closed mind so I might just move back into my knowing and leave things be. Other times I must stand for what I know to be true even if it seems not supported by tangible facts. I really can’t talk more about this because these labels are new to me and I am not even sure this is at all what was being discussed. Have I gone totally out to sea on this?
Haha - all very fair points to be honest! I'm still brainstorming different ways to get this information presented to people at varying stages of cognitive function diving :) Yes, exactly - in some people A can drown out b but in most cases (particularly the healthy ones) b gently tugs at A to draw it back into reality and ensure it doesn't get ahead of itself. A check and balance system; I also mention in the video how A and b can rotate on an axis (often temporarily) for B to take charge and a to provide the anchor. Great contribution! Yes a large part of the oppositonal-Se 'stare' is also in trying to reconcile the concrete reality with the abstract, to discover such things as the true motives you mention :)
how to employ unconscious functions in a highly conscious manner, for example, how would you employ your extroverted intuition since youre Ni dominant? love your videos btw.
Thanks so much! Employment is relative to lens-codec relationship - Ne-Te is my easiest form of Ne activation, so the more I consciously attend to a general sense of external order (e.g. the relationship between notes when playing guitar) the more conscious my Ne will be :)
@@CognitivePersonality okay, first of all thank you for reply, i didnt think you will haha, second of all..i got into personality because my friends kept making fun of me for some things that i do constantly and I found out later that this is just me being an annoyingly curious ENTP. thank you so fucking much for your empathy video youre the first one who wouldnt call me a sociopath and stuff like that. im trying to understand this better though, so, if i were to employ my Fi polr or Ni, how should i go about doing that? as far as i can understand you, i should focus on specific concepts of my own individual values instead Ni-Fi eg. how i feel about a certain thing, instead of constantly analyzing the social situations that i perceive and stuff. (forgive me if my general understanding is rough around the edges....hence the question, right?) im still struggling with Si stuff in all the stereotypical ways, i forget small details all the time im terrible at organizing stuff, whenever i try to organize my life i follow the stereotype without knowing it and overcompensate with Ne, trying new approaches to discipline based on this new cool conceptually cool habits to follow instead of actually being consistent. working on that tho, but the unconscious functions is something i dont really understand. sorry for the long comment, really love your work, would really appreciate a response. have a lovely day.
@@yasserabdelgawad9594 I'm planning to begin a function development series at some point, but I also supply consultations over Skype for this purpose - send me an email if this is something you're interested in :) Developing our functions is a long game and as with all things it's rare to fully activate a function all at once, but steadily paying more attention to the areas we tend to neglect or subdue (the Ni-Fi in your case) can very gradually improve our fluidity.
I can’t even express how wonderful it is to see someone who can verbalize ideas that i have been recognizing for the last year or so. I am excited to learn more of the terminology and viewpoints!
The next two installments are my favourites as they go that extra bit deeper into the fluid-model - I look forward to hearing what you think! :)
@@CognitivePersonality I'm so excited to hear more about what you have to say about your model. I already own your book so I have some idea of what you might say, but I will really value having you delve deeper into the material in a spoken manner. Really well done thus far!
@@infinitysconcinnity2418 Cheers! That's exactly what I was hoping - these videos would provide an audio-visuo accompaniment to the book :)
I really appreciate your continued support!
Cognitive Personality Theory You totally deserve it!
I am slowly getting used to the terms you are using. I am exploring myself here. And your analyses are kind and critical at the same time. This attitude is so inspiring. God bless you, Harry!
Absolutely lovely comment - thank you for this!
Definitely agree with what you said about gazing at the function that's the opposite orientation of our dominant! It's as if we can see it with clarity but we don't have as much magnetism towards it since the dominant axis reels us back in.
Thanks Grace - yes, exactly! :)
That was a great way of defining the inferior function, Harry. "Anchor" from the creative pull of our dominant. Nicely put. :)
Thanks so much Joyce! :)
Hey there, interesting thoughts. So I can understand your thoughts a little better, could you clear up one or two things for me? I'm going to do my best to put aside my classical Jungian views and just try to understand your system within it's own context (these are genuine curiosities).
I understand that you believe there is no hierarchy, but you do propose that the convergent function acts similarly to the dominant, correct? The rotation of the convergent to the divergent would be somewhat similar to a "grip" in Briggs model? Like an INTJ acting like an ESFP during stress?
Do you propose that the function stack more so looks like this - N>F>T>S, with varied uses of the functions in either introverted or extroverted attitude compared to NiFeTiSe? More like NxFxTxSx?
Because Ni is potentially Si, but also potentially Ne, do you propose that there is no need for a connection axis, such as Ni being fundamentally connected to Se. For example, you describe Si as being what grounds Ni, but Jungian view proposes that this is what Se does. How do Se and Si differ in relation to the balancing of Ni (or any other function combination like this)? Because types can temporarily "Switch", are there a limited range of types that one type switches to, similar to quadrants? Or are all types potentially all other types at different times?
Finally, have you done a video explaining your type coding? Like IST-Fn? If not, I think that would he really valuable.
A lot to take in but interesting video!
Thanks man, I appreciate the open mind and, wow, that's a lot of really good questions - as I'm on my phone I'll answer your comment in segments!
The Ni-Se axis can definitely manifest as a 'grip', where for a variety of factors cognitive magnetism may be reversed towards the oppositional across many situations. However, I'd also state there is a healthy version of this axial switching that occurs for literally everyone. For example, you as an INTJ would take in divergent Se-Te information, process it within a dominant stack (a mixture of Ni-Fi and Ni-(Ti), though it won't always be I-processed) and often rotate on the Ni-Si axis to expunge via either Se-Te or Te-Se (CPT posits a codec-lens axis too). We don't always switch on an axis to 'use' the opposing stack, but the point is when we do it is often voluntary.
I do believe in type difference between an ENFP and INFJ, and believe the different natural orientations should be included within the stack. So while I believe Ni and Ne are still N, the opposing magnetisms should be noted as whether or not Ne is employed in an Ni dominant there is still a pull towards introverted orientation. So a code would be in my case INT (Ni with Ti auxiliary - both introverted) - Fs (opposing nature and orientation, F as extraveted authority and s as opposing function with potential for suppression aka dual-utilising N dominant).
I lean more towards the belief of multiple types rather than a quadra due to potential for auxiliary-rotation; I also believe we can also 'dip' into the surface of other stacks without necessarily 'switching', though the latter also occurs for sure.
In the sense of both orientations of S serving to ground Ni this is where S being a singular entity becomes more relevant. Se anchors an abstract internal reality into the concrete external and is accessed through axial rotation more than dip, whereas Si focuses the internal lens and is far more of a dip function. Due to semantics of the English language these orientation are absolutely both grounding forces, but as Se is the true opposite I would say this orientation has the greatest opposing (and thus anchoring) magnitude.
Thanks for your comments and thoughts!!
AsuraPsych Now THESE are the type of questions that are needed to be asked if we are going to properly extend any Jungian model to this nicely formulated model!
(Excellent video, Harry!)
@@CognitivePersonality That clears up a lot of your views for me, appreciate the answers!
Your theory is very reasonable and in my opinion, very accurate. I’ve been analyzing the interactions of the functions and constantly observing in other people how the functions seem to slide in and out. My husband is an ENTP for example, and I can see how he is always exploring new ideas and possibilities with his Ne, but he is seriously getting stuff done in the real world using Se all day long. It’s true that having Si fourth causes trouble when he tries to keep his very chaotic life organized, but Si is still an integral part of his everyday life, for example... both toilet seat lids must always be shut when every family member is done using the bathroom or he’ll get after you about it, he takes a shower every single night without fail, has the same thing for breakfast every single morning. This all based of course, off of my understanding of how I define how the functions play out in the real world.
I find it fascinating to study people in this way and I’m seeing the same thing you’re talking about, the functions are very movable and slide in and out quite often. Although, from what I’ve learned from OP about the animals, that seems to be more solid in people. And if you’re an EJ or an IP, you’re still going to have lots of “tribe” issues no matter how much those functions are switching in and out, maybe until you’re older and wiser and can use the other functions properly to balance you out.
You’re doing a great job explaining all of this. Keep it up!
Thank you so much!
It sounds like we're very much on a similar page :)
And yes, Fe or Fi dominant functions will seek to align the individual with humanity as this is the primary utility of these types - the extent to which this is tribal or more plethoric depends on the individual and deeper personality factors :)
Observing the external world with an intense gaze, yes Pippin and I have both been scolded for our 'Gaze'...
“Why Did you look? WHY DO YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO LOOK?” (LotR
Internal Frameworks:
copied and edited from The Evening Standard John Garth
Middle-earth was born in hospital in 1916 when J.R.R. Tolkien was invalided from the Somme with trench fever. He had been in battle twice: early in the campaign in a night attack on a ruined village, and again when a German trench was seized in the cold autumn daylight.
In between, he had been made battalion signaling officer and spent long weeks in the trenches where he witnessed all the horrors of mechanized death. But just before his fellow soldiers were moved on to another ordeal at Ypres, Tolkien fell ill and was shipped home with his head full of powerful images that were to re-emerge more than two decades on in his masterpiece, The Lord of the Rings.
Lying in hospital in Birmingham, Tolkien wrote out in an exercise book the haunting epic of Gondolin, a city of high culture which is destroyed in a hammerblow by a nightmarish army. The worst and best of what he had seen in the Somme soldiery were embodied in the brutal goblin attackers and the elvish defenders, valiant against hopeless odds.
Among the dragons and demons in the assault are bizarre machine-like monstrosities which hurl fire or from which troops debouch: the archaic prose might be describing a tank - then newly deployed on Tolkien’s stretch of the Western Front - as seen through medieval eyes.
The story of Gondolin was soon joined by a whole cycle of “Lost Tales”, including a creation myth in which the world is shaped by music but ineradicably marred by a rebel angel and his harsh, repetitious discord. The story of the satanic Morgoth’s bid to conquer, pervert and destroy the world reads as a powerful indictment of the misuse of creativity.
Tolkien lost two of his closest friends during the Somme,
and the Great War claimed the lives of about one in four of his wider circle - young men educated at public school and Oxbridge who typically ended up as junior officers at the sharp end.
Tolkien reworked his mythology over and over but never completed it. It was published posthumously as The Silmarillion. In the meantime, in 1937 he had begun a sequel to his successful fantasy yarn for children, The Hobbit. The Lord of the Rings reflected the darkening times and was set in the same world as The Silmarillion, but it springs to life because it describes Middle-earth - our world in a prehistoric era - through the eyes of hobbits.
They represent ordinary people; more specifically, the weavers and labourers who formed the backbone of Tolkien’s Great War battalion, the 11th Lancashire Fusiliers.
Unlike the celebrated memoirists and poets of 1914-18, Tolkien wrote very little about what he saw in the trenches: but the images are there in the rotten and beautiful faces staring up out of the putrescent meres of the Dead Marshes;
in the hobbit Merry crawling in the mud like a dazed animal to plant a knife in the back of his enemy’s knee; in Frodo and Sam, the officer and his batman, sitting in a blasted hole as the world erupts around them, wondering if their end has come.
Tolkien’s myth tells another truth about the war: soldiers in that horror were much more than passive victims. They were real people, resilient, cowardly, brutal and occasionally heroic.
External Frameworks...“We are Sitting on a Field of Victory...enjoying a few well earned comforts".
Huzzah, CPT. I enjoyed this video very much because it gives me an opportunity to listen and learn something new
and I always seem to do exactly that
and I get to skip merrily along memory land with 'my precious' while we look for exactly
the right quote to offer to our CaPt along this Journey.
The Se lenses of Merry and, especially, Pippin are such good examples!!
Also absolutely love the biographical information, much of which was new to me - as usual it's a joy to have LOTR references in the comments section :)
And - thank you!
Hello Sir!
I am trying to find the difference between high-level and low-level cognitive functions. On which parameters the cognitive performance depends? In which categories these cognitive functions fall into (Reasoning, Working Memory, Reinforcement Learning, and attentional engagement)?
Reasoning - cerebral reasoning T; limbic reasoning F
Working Memory - Lens>codec; Si-Ti specific recollection without F; Si-Fi specific recollection of emotion; Ni-Ti vague detached recollection; Ni-Fi recollection of hollistic emotional association.
Reinforcement Learning - Te-Fi axis
Attentional engagement - Se and Si
@@CognitivePersonality Dear Sir! Thanks for the swift response. Can you please define high-level and low-level cognitive functions?
This is brilliant 😍
Thank you!! :)
Hmm interesting.
Can you articulate how Si grounds Ni in the internal world? Like when I am in my head, I am basically just imagining things or making sense of things with metaphor, (Ni) what or how does Si play a part in this process?
Ni can indeed be metaphorical owing to it's nature as what is essentially a wide-angle lens directed internally. By dipping into Si, this lens can focus on specific components before zooming out once again to relate that singular value to the bigger picture.
@@CognitivePersonality Can you give me an idea of what a "specific component" of SI would be in an Ni envisionment.
@@dseer13 Where Ni might use a metaphor to encapsulate a broad meaning, Ni-Si would lock on to specific nomenclature, stringing together a coherent sentence while maintaining the breadth of meaning.
In a more Te-sense, such as in an INTJ or ISTP, Ni-Si might employ specific mathematical formula to demonstrate what is otherwise purely conceptual.
Almost all Ni users hone-in via Si :)
@@CognitivePersonality I've just never heard of the SI cognitive function being described as being able to do what you have described.
If this is the case, how would an SI dominant use Ni in their introverted Si worlds?
@@dseer13 Other descriptions of Si pertain to an internalisation of the concrete and tangible.
CPT agrees with the correlation perceives this as symptomatic rather than causal - the cause being Si as a narrow lens directed internally and thus fixated upon the concrete.
Therefore an Si dominant takes the opposite approach to the Ni dom - the lens begins focused on the concrete and tangible (specific meanings, sensations, memories etc) and dips into Ni in order to relate these to the bigger picture. This process serves to strengthen the concrete, whereas the reverse process (Ni-Si) serves to strengthen the abstract :)
When you say that we can use our oppositional as an alternative dominant function, does that imply that the functions in the unconscious are also changed since you imitate the ESTP? Or does CPT not mention that much about the unconscious?
For starters, Ni-Ti perform a divergent role from the ESTP position, but in terms of Si-Fi from the dominant stack the effect will be rather different - afterall, the Si of an ESTP who has spent most of their life in that position will be very different to an axis rotated INFJ :)
But, yes, the INFJ 'falls' into Si in the same way the ESTP would when rotated on the central axis.
Are there any less compacted videos that are not so packed with info at such a fast clip of speaking? It’s great for the Cognitive Nerds who can follow all this but my head is spinning. To me it’s like listening to a 45 RPM on 78 RPM speed. I think you said that in personality development there is a lesser dominant feature that incorporates reality testing into the intuitive knowing state and in your opinion this grounds the personality from being dysfunctionally over dominant? Or maybe not. It is what I was hearing. So that A is grounded by b but not to the degree that it drowns out A but just kind of tugs at it? Perhaps I missed the entire point. It all went by so fast. I do experience that staring thing where I will be looking at someone trying to figure out what on earth they are doing or thinking or saying as if I am annoyed with them but really I am puzzled and trying to judge the situation as to its validity or value - the cognitive dissonance is giving me a go around as my knowing is being tested.. so to speak. And it becomes personal to me because I need to figure it out in order to settle down with it which I may not because I might feel it’s a manipulation to divert me from “seeing” their true motive. I am skeptical and while I might let you think I believe your nonsense because it has no bearing on my own reaction or values.. I really have just given out a pass. I see no sense in wasting my energy on a closed mind so I might just move back into my knowing and leave things be. Other times I must stand for what I know to be true even if it seems not supported by tangible facts. I really can’t talk more about this because these labels are new to me and I am not even sure this is at all what was being discussed. Have I gone totally out to sea on this?
Haha - all very fair points to be honest! I'm still brainstorming different ways to get this information presented to people at varying stages of cognitive function diving :)
Yes, exactly - in some people A can drown out b but in most cases (particularly the healthy ones) b gently tugs at A to draw it back into reality and ensure it doesn't get ahead of itself. A check and balance system; I also mention in the video how A and b can rotate on an axis (often temporarily) for B to take charge and a to provide the anchor.
Great contribution! Yes a large part of the oppositonal-Se 'stare' is also in trying to reconcile the concrete reality with the abstract, to discover such things as the true motives you mention :)
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Hey Shelby - technically not but I have done a couple of livestreams recently! One with World Socionics Society and the other with Type Tips :)
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@@erinbyrd5377 Haha! It's in my 'about' section :)
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how to employ unconscious functions in a highly conscious manner, for example, how would you employ your extroverted intuition since youre Ni dominant? love your videos btw.
Thanks so much! Employment is relative to lens-codec relationship - Ne-Te is my easiest form of Ne activation, so the more I consciously attend to a general sense of external order (e.g. the relationship between notes when playing guitar) the more conscious my Ne will be :)
@@CognitivePersonality okay, first of all thank you for reply, i didnt think you will haha, second of all..i got into personality because my friends kept making fun of me for some things that i do constantly and I found out later that this is just me being an annoyingly curious ENTP. thank you so fucking much for your empathy video youre the first one who wouldnt call me a sociopath and stuff like that. im trying to understand this better though, so, if i were to employ my Fi polr or Ni, how should i go about doing that? as far as i can understand you, i should focus on specific concepts of my own individual values instead Ni-Fi eg. how i feel about a certain thing, instead of constantly analyzing the social situations that i perceive and stuff. (forgive me if my general understanding is rough around the edges....hence the question, right?) im still struggling with Si stuff in all the stereotypical ways, i forget small details all the time im terrible at organizing stuff, whenever i try to organize my life i follow the stereotype without knowing it and overcompensate with Ne, trying new approaches to discipline based on this new cool conceptually cool habits to follow instead of actually being consistent. working on that tho, but the unconscious functions is something i dont really understand. sorry for the long comment, really love your work, would really appreciate a response. have a lovely day.
@@yasserabdelgawad9594 I'm planning to begin a function development series at some point, but I also supply consultations over Skype for this purpose - send me an email if this is something you're interested in :)
Developing our functions is a long game and as with all things it's rare to fully activate a function all at once, but steadily paying more attention to the areas we tend to neglect or subdue (the Ni-Fi in your case) can very gradually improve our fluidity.
@@CognitivePersonality will be looking forward to that, thank you