@@miiiiahazel she was a great kid. Had her whole life in front of her. I didn't know her but I pay tribute to her all the time, as she wanted to be famous.
Not greed, just trying to throw blame on those both more vulnerable to attacks and currently under far more pressure than usual - to say that now is not the time is huge understatement.
They're not necessarily blaming them for being inept. They're blaming the government for making cuts to the NHS. If they'd had the necessary equipment, she'd have lived
Better first aid? Let's not blame the 1st responders for the actions of a terrorist. Of course she could've survived, everyone killed at the arena could have survived, if it weren't for the terrorists carrying out the attack.
It is the medics responsibility too. They're not blaming first responders for the attack but they have every right to blame them for her dying from her injuries. They have received training and have a duty to do everything they can to save someones life it's their JOB. They failed. Knowing someone you love could've survived had people done their job properly is very painful.
@@thebatman4279 of course he's allowed to say that it is common sense. Far right extremism is too, but while it happens more frequently the damage done is much less.
She could have survived but its not a time to blame medics.. Imagine being in a scenario like that... Dead people around you blood everywhere panic umoungst thousands of people im not saying they couldnt have done better but if we are honest this is the blame of Islamic Extremism.
Noble Guy oh how caring!!! The truth will out, their child deserves at least that & as parents they will not stop until they REALLY know what happened to their child they at least deserve that.
Oh sweetheart. Beautiful soul. My daughter is 9 now and i can't even imagine nor do i want to. Bless jer family sending them healing energy and love. Knowing she is yheir guide and angle now... RIP beautiful little one. Im so sorry
This is heartbreaking ..you have a family grieving for their child finding out about it this now and then on the other hand paramedics who were confronted by war zone conditions ...who should still have done their job properly. Sometimes we forget we are all just human beings. Heart goes out to the family and their little girl
@@ann-mariepaliukenas19 I feel like the family finding out that there were errors will stop them from grieving...the what ifs will take over ...so very sad
@@ann-mariepaliukenas19 wrong place! Wtf their daughter was failed! Basic MCA response and trauma care wasn’t given! No excuse for no tourniquet use and a&e not using a level1 on her! I imagine countless other things weren’t used either and can only guess on my experience on what those were. As a nurse who has had MCA training when I worked a&e I applaud this family for fighting so hard for the truth! Many people die from medical negligence and many almost die from medical negligence. I’ve happily risked my career several times to ensure my ill patients who were dying didn’t and forced negligent doctors to do their f-ing job even calling the consultant in from his home due to them. There is no excuse for the negligence this poor girl got that cost her life
@@rickhardman7376 Not at all. The parents were apparently reconciled to the tragedy of an instantaneous death, until they decided to pay for a report that showed otherwise ... Why ?
I still can't fathom how the bombing happened ... When you see the culprit Im 100% certain anyone with a damn brain could see That grim person wasnt their for a damn concert I've never seen someone so suspicious in my life Lifes where lost that shouldn't have been lost yet ....
its heart-breaking that this young life was taken but the blame is at the feet of the scum who set off the bomb not the first responders, they would have done everything they could. the confusion at the event must have unimaginable
@Alexandra O'Sullivan I mean there are still “truthers” around on the internet saying it’s all fake and staged. But I hope they never see the actual footage of that night, because they’ll still make it a million times worse!
Salman Abedi was in the foyer at Victoria train station before the end of the concert. Members of the public thought he looked suspicious and reported him to security but they did nothing about it. This could have been prevented from ever happening in the first place. Poor Saffie, her final moments must have been terrifying.
If racial discrimination wasn't a thing, things like these would be easier to avoid. When people always keep saying random people 'look suspicious' based on nothing but their skin it becomes hard to believe any of them, even in cases where there is more to it. A racist version of the boy who cried wolf.
By the time he stepped foot in the building it was too late. Even if police tried to stop him he still would've set off the bomb. There was no way to stop what was coming
I can't believe that the parents hires another team to investigate their daughter case. Why would you do this if not for the money but by doing this they uncovered something terrible who happen to their little girl and now after they had closure with a statement who put this poor little girl to rest, after this horrible terrorist attack which created chaos in Manchester , they are putting themselves again through hell. Personally their kids no amount of money who would push my to digg in to a case like this if it was my own daughter, I couldn't live with the news they just got by their own fault. The true guilty party is the terrorist so stop try to blame anyone else please.
So you are saying "Allahu Akbar." God is great? Just so I understand why when a religious extremist kills a bunch of children you are using it to promote your belief in the same magical invisible sky daddy? Just maybe when the religious kill children it might be a time not to promote religion? Maybe? Just a thought? TAX RELIGION! Use the money to fund the NHS!
@@AnyoneCanSee Stop being a typical angry atheist just for attention and let people pay their respects. There's always one of you on every video trying to rile people up just because it makes you feel good. Show some some empathy.
The issue is the responders failed to give basic trauma care! No excuses for not using a tourniquet and no excuse for a&e not using a level1 and other equipment that could have easily replaced her huge loss of blood volume. As a nurse I applaud the family for fighting for answers on why their daughter died when she was conscious and talking at the scene despite horrific blood loss. No excuses for not giving this beautiful young girl all trauma care interventions to save her life or be able to tell her family they tried everything. As it stands neither on scene MCA responders nor a&e actually tried everything which is horrific
@NobleGuy so that’s reason to sod those who did die and were failed?! It’s laughable you even think that way. Pretty confident if it was your loved one who died and you found out that there were medical interventions that should have been used but weren’t you would be demanding answers also. The family is rightfully demanding people answer for failing a young girl and answer to why they failed to do basic trauma care! But I’m sure you with your non medical training and not being MCA trained know far more than anyone else huh
@@irishandscottish1829 you cannot say what another family would or wouldn't think. Frankly, I would likely be questioning the negligence that allowed radical religious zealots to even enter the country, let alone poison the minds of youth. Or the negligence of the public in branding as racist anyone who dares question why such things are allowed, which directly contributed to the ability of the terrorist to go about his business rather than be challenged and possibly apprehended. The public and wokeism are more guilty of the outcome than any medical negligence here. So look in the mirror. What did you do to stop this from happening?
I once went to a lecture by a paramedic who told us about people killed by underground trains. Apparently the victims are quite often talking. The minute they move them they are dead.
Compression or crush injuries are like that. The area is suddenly compressed which delays the full impact of the injury by keeping the blood trapped there. But once you stop it being compressed the blood flows freely and time catches up to them. It's sad but sometimes a victim can basically already be dead from an accident and their body doesn't yet realise it.
This must be agony for them. Those on scene, first responders, would have been in shock. But paramedics should have known what to do. And in A&E. Through no fault of their own, because medics are human, but possible mistakes must always be investigated. That is not a blame game but good practise. A terrible tragedy.
No, the paramedics wanted to go in but most were given orders not to until the bomb squad had got there and declared it safe. It resulted in police and civilians carrying people out to medics on makeshift backboards. I think in these situations military medics should be deployed as they already signed up for that risk.
@@aarkaarkangel I wouldn't want to cause anyone distress. The whole thing would have been a panic and a shock but it's so incredibly important to identify mistakes for training reasons.
@@OpinionParade Search Usman of Manchester attack. He helped lot of people being a Muslim. U can't just take down the religion like that. We must take down the people who think Muslim is a religion to kill to go to heaven. I have Muslim friends and there even hate this type of bombing and war sht.
Noble Guy I lived through the bombing of my native city.I saw the devastation & carnage, pain & suffering. However, it is not my job to save peoples lives, people are trained to deal with the worst case scenario, they are medics & police & fire fighters they choose to do these jobs & these jobs come with a huge responsibility life & death!! I have lost close family members to medical incompetence & indifference & bore the brunt of a near useless justice system failing victims of serious crime against me & mine.This is never right or acceptable. This carnage was allowed happen due to failings in police surveillance, police & security failings at the venue & now we see a catalogue of failings that let this innocent victim die in fear & pain without even the presence of her parents. You can try to justify this & of course the horrendous situation that was faced by emergency services was shocking & chaotic however that is when the emergency services must step up & do what needs to be done.
Would like to see a keyboard warrior like you wade through blood guts and body parts, trying to deal with dozens of victims with various injuries, all the while worrying another bomb will take your own life. This little girl could not be saved, not under the circumstances. In a perfect world? Maybe, but this was a war zone. These parents need to come to terms with that, not chase a ghost. Theres no one to blame here, other than the bomber.
I understand their pain, but this is outrageous, dealing with a chaotic, explosion with wounded and hectic scenes everywhere. People were trying their best. Zero perspective involved here.
Omg horrific how will they be able to carry on I’ve no idea May they get some peace and some comfort from somewhere somehow. Rip in eternal love and light little one
Just watched this on BBC one 7.3.22, have to say it impacted on me pretty badly, I'm an older guy and this has left me traumatised, I'm so feeling for her lovely parents , why o why is the need for violence, governments are to blame they can stop the people who do this, need tougher politicians. Honestly I dont know how they cope andcsre so brave..God bless them
They forget how many injured people there was to triage. Responders wouldn't have had a clue who to treat first My thoughts are with Saffie and her family
@@Martial-Mat From the linked article - ''A security guard had a "bad feeling" about suicide bomber Salman Abedi but did not approach him for fear of being branded a racist, an inquiry has heard. Kyle Lawler, who was 18 at the time of the Manchester Arena attack, was standing 10 or 15ft away from Abedi. He later told police he was conflicted because he thought something was wrong but could not put his finger on it.'' www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-54695580
@@Martial-Mat ''Abedi, 22, dressed all in black and carrying a large rucksack, had been reported to security by a member of the public at 22:15. Around eight minutes before the bombing, Showsec steward Mohammed Ali Agha alerted Mr Lawler to the report and both began observing Abedi. In his statement prepared for the inquiry, Mr Lawler said: "I just had a bad feeling about him but did not have anything to justify that." The witness added that Abedi was "fidgety and sweating". Mr Lawler said he attempted to use his radio to alert the security control room but claimed he could not get through due to radio traffic. He then left the arena and took up his position outside the City Room and made no further attempt to raise the alarm. Mr Lawler agreed he simply "gave up" trying to use the radio and just got on with his job. In his prepared statement to the inquiry, the Showsec security guard also said: "I felt unsure about what to do. "It's very difficult to define a terrorist. For all I knew he might well be an innocent Asian male. "I did not want people to think I am stereotyping him because of his race. "I was scared of being wrong and being branded a racist if I got it wrong and would have got into trouble. It made me hesitant. "I wanted to get it right and not mess it up by over-reacting or judging someone by their race." Mr Lawler agreed that on five separate occasions after the bombing, he made statements, verbally or in writing, where he "deliberately shortened" the time between him leaving the City Room to the bomb going off, "so no one would say, why didn't you do something?" the inquiry was told. He added he "had a guilty feeling, I had a lot of blame on myself".
@@Martial-Mat I'm a non White myself, and I have personal experience of White people being terrified of asking me simple questions, for fear of being called ''racist''. It's really sad that the security guard felt this way, as many innocent lives could have been saved. If a British minority was acting ''suspicious'', but was in fact harmless and he was investigated by security, then I'm pretty sure the security guard would have had his life destroyed.
And the parents now know this how? A suicide bomber at a major arena full of young people and families: many dead, many injured. You ask enough people and you will get the answer you want to hear. The reality is that this was the fault of an extremist who didn't care who died.
The parents know this due to the inquiry held into the bombing. They had believed their daughter was killed instantly and didn't suffer but when all the evidence was going to be presented at the inquiry they had to be told that the facts to be presented showed that their daughter was awake, talking, even drank water and that medical experts who had examined all the evidence were going to say that there was every chance she would have survived with proper medical care.
If it was just her injured then sure go for it blame the emergency services. But in mass casuality situations you have to make these decisions. Triage is brutal.
I agree. I’m not going to blame the first responders for not applying pressure or whatever the report says they should have done. The first responders must have been traumatized at the sight of dead children and blood everywhere....I’m sure they did everything they could.
@Damion Carter Yea I know first responders and nurses. There are one of the most over worked, under paid and under appreciated people in society. I can't see them intentionally neglecting an 8 year old girl.
I don't know him but this just feels like self torture, re-living it again and again seeing what could've been. It doesn't seem healthy. Then again, what could be healthy in that position?
Why are you not blaming the purpetrator? He was mostly responsible for the outcome, and the balance of blame lies squarely with those who sold him the religious propaganda lies.
Everyone was asking for help. And your paid people are on your side and looking at it through a pay day? No wonder they see it different with what happened than someone without monetary gain. Others lost their lives also
It’s clear you don’t know about trauma care if you are using the ‘other people died’ crap. As a nurse I can tell you now one of the things the dad was speaking about a&e could have used was a level1 which pumps litres of blood, blood products and fluids into you with in minutes. He rightly should be asking why they didn’t use it on her if she had lost so much blood already. He rightly should be asking why no MCA responding doctor, a&e nurse or paramedic applied a tourniquet! Research has shown they can be left in place for 2hours will little problems arising and it’s after 6hours that you will have to amputate. So why the f didn’t the stem the bleeding I applaud this family for forcing this info coming to light! Doctors and nurses aren’t god’s and make mistakes and cost patients the lives constantly and should be held responsible for when they do! As a nurse I fully expect to be held responsible if I was to ever harm or kill a patient through negligence or pure stupidity
@@snsn7251 and? Who cares they rightfully should be compensated esp when it turns out medical negligence caused her to die! Why wasn’t a tourniquet used when to medically safe to do so and no damage will be caused to the limb for at least 2hours. Why didn’t the use the level1 to replace her huge loss of blood volume by pumping in blood products and fluids via a level1! This is a disgusting example of sheer negligence and as a nurse I applaud them for fighting for the truth around their daughters death! A needless death of a child who could have survived and that’s disgusting When they responded there part of MCA protocol is to have all trauma equipment with them that would be needed like tourniquets etc so there is no excuse for them not having such equipment
People get legs blown off and they survived so someone in the hospital is too blame blood iv and a fast operation could save people it happens in the army so if they can do it shows hospitals can but don’t save saveable people I find that strange
@NobleGuy there was Freya Lewis, Adam Lawler, Martin Hibbert and his daughter, Saffie's mother Lisa and sister Ashlee, countless others who were injured that night. We would be nowhere without the NHS.
Its a shame that a little girl died. . .in an interview the mother said she was in a coma for 6 weeks confirmed by her husband, but in a report in the newspaper, they said when she woke up after 10 days was told of her daughters death?
Have you children? Doubt It you are probably no more than a child yourself spouting heinous words on your iPhone. Imagine the utter devastation these people are going through? No you can’t you have no empathy!!!!!!
Big Dundee I have stated in my posts I have lived through the bombing of my native city.I know the carnage, the chaos, the horrendous pain & suffering.Unless you yourself know all this & the real threat of secondary devices & living through bomb scares YOU are the Keyboard Warrior. Nothing wrong during Lockdown trying to change the world take a look at change.org just one example. My grandfather fought at the Battle of the Somme & my uncle on the D Day Landings their testimonies of the actual experience of war is etched in my mind. I stand by what I said the evil terrorist could have been taken off the street by the police, he could have been challenged or prevented from detonating his bomb by security & police but he was not.Their failures allowed this terrorists to have the chance to destroy lives.
@NobleGuy Yep they are not equipped to deal with something like that. I saw someone have a heart attack in a gym. The first aider who's primary job was signing new members up panicked and the guy died on the way to hospital. He was never the same after and left the job.
Even though I don't like how Ariana has treated her fans, no one (even Ariana) deserved this. This was horrific. That poor little girl. Even worse was the media making it all about the pop star and not the victims.
I don't think speculation by people that were not there helps anybody, especially her family. "Could" just renews the pain. I feel for her parents, but speculation does not help. Please bear in mind the conditions that the first responders had to work in. 💔
The real question is why wasn't anything done to stop the bleeding? Even in field surgery you'd use a t-shirt, a sock or hell even the persons own clothing and infections are a secondary concern as it's far more treatable than a lack of blood. You may end-up half naked from the clothing taken off you but its better than being dead. Also also, stay classy BBC for deleting the comment.
Failed by the security services, failed by the steward who was scared to racially profile the suspect. Failed by the poilce who went on a lunch break... Failed by the taxi driver who didn't report the suspicious indiivudal who gave him a Koran on the day of the bombing and failed by the emergency services.
Just awful. It breaks your heart. I wonder how this helps the family? Unless a fully equipped doctor is present there will always be cases like this. You can see both sides, but how is this helping the family?
@@callmecharlottex so why weren’t they by her side. Your missing the point. An 8 year old was left unsupervised by her family. Also where does it say she was with her mom and sister?
Manchester sin duda alguno eres asombroso y verdaderamente bello Sabiendo bien que está pequeñita (que en paz descanse) pudo salvarse ustedes no hechan tierra de los hechos y tratan de comprender a la perfección quienes son las verdaderas víctimas y quienes son los verdaderos culpables de esto sin duda alguna es increíble su nivel de amor y hermosura 🥺🥺🥺 Pobre saffe que feo que le toco sufrir mucho pero de algo si estoy segura y es que siempre vivirá en la memoria de manchester y de muchos también que en estos momentos su espíritu encontró la luz que todo ángel necesita para ir al cielo ❤️❤️❤️
Heartbreaking. Wishing the family strength
So Heartbreaking
So am I. I knew Saffie for a long time. This broke the whole school.
@@miiiiahazel sorry to here about that.
@@miiiiahazel she was a great kid. Had her whole life in front of her. I didn't know her but I pay tribute to her all the time, as she wanted to be famous.
@@callmecharlottex yeah, exactly. Thank you.
She also would have survived if someone didn't blow up people too. Placing blame on people in an impossible situation is just greed.
Not impossible. I served in the army and impossible didn't factor in. Firstly the terrorists are to blame. Secondly, incompetent NHS staff.
Not greed, just trying to throw blame on those both more vulnerable to attacks and currently under far more pressure than usual - to say that now is not the time is huge understatement.
They're not necessarily blaming them for being inept. They're blaming the government for making cuts to the NHS. If they'd had the necessary equipment, she'd have lived
What’s greed got to do with it, you wouldn’t think the same if it was your daughter, have some respect.
@@martynjukes482 I think it's easy to blame the NHS, maybe if the NHS had more funding it would have better stocked ambulances.
Better first aid? Let's not blame the 1st responders for the actions of a terrorist. Of course she could've survived, everyone killed at the arena could have survived, if it weren't for the terrorists carrying out the attack.
It is the medics responsibility too. They're not blaming first responders for the attack but they have every right to blame them for her dying from her injuries. They have received training and have a duty to do everything they can to save someones life it's their JOB. They failed. Knowing someone you love could've survived had people done their job properly is very painful.
Honestly it’s horrid and does nothing for no one
The first aiders and just that, all they can provide is first aid, they’re not professionals
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God bless her and her parents. She was only a baby. My heart bleeds for you.
@Truth HurtsMoran
Maybe not the best choice of words on that last sentence.
she goes to my school
@@Rayzz-f8v you mean she WENT to your school?
The blame lays squarely at the feet of Islamic extremism.
You're right.
Shhhh! You're not allowed to say that you racist. The real issue within society is obviously white supremacy!
@@thebatman4279 of course he's allowed to say that it is common sense. Far right extremism is too, but while it happens more frequently the damage done is much less.
@@Bookish1995 he was clearly being sarcastic buddy
@@Bookish1995 wow come on you couldnt see that. Far left wing people are so extreme they can't detect sarcasm
She lived round the corner from me. Her mum & dad couldn't stand to stay in the same place and sold the chippy they ran. It's so so sad x rip x
Let me guess you used to look after her aswell and read her bedtime stories?
@@theoneandonly6830 Wtf? No. I didn't know her personally, but what a stupid thing to say
@@nikkijackson2981 first time on the internet?
@@theoneandonly6830
And wake her up for school
I'm not sure why you are getting silly replies ...I understood your comment ..feel heartbroken for them too
She could have survived but its not a time to blame medics.. Imagine being in a scenario like that... Dead people around you blood everywhere panic umoungst thousands of people im not saying they couldnt have done better but if we are honest this is the blame of Islamic Extremism.
They r trained for this.
Unbearable & heartbreaking. So sorry for your loss & torment. I hope you get the full investigation you deserve.
Noble Guy oh how caring!!! The truth will out, their child deserves at least that & as parents they will not stop until they REALLY know what happened to their child they at least deserve that.
I think the people to blame are the ones who blew her up
How about Islam, the ideology that drove them to blow up these women and girls?
Fuck Islam.
They are talking about first aiders. These people are not medical experts. They take a one or two day course.
Oh sweetheart. Beautiful soul. My daughter is 9 now and i can't even imagine nor do i want to.
Bless jer family sending them healing energy and love. Knowing she is yheir guide and angle now... RIP beautiful little one. Im so sorry
This is heartbreaking ..you have a family grieving for their child finding out about it this now and then on the other hand paramedics who were confronted by war zone conditions ...who should still have done their job properly. Sometimes we forget we are all just human beings. Heart goes out to the family and their little girl
True, she would be alive if a bomb hadn’t gone off, grieving people sometimes get stuck in the wrong place in their sadness, im so sorry
@@ann-mariepaliukenas19 I feel like the family finding out that there were errors will stop them from grieving...the what ifs will take over ...so very sad
@Ramming Speed or just spam comments like a bot?
@@mclovin6039 I thought that too!
@@ann-mariepaliukenas19 wrong place!
Wtf their daughter was failed!
Basic MCA response and trauma care wasn’t given!
No excuse for no tourniquet use and a&e not using a level1 on her! I imagine countless other things weren’t used either and can only guess on my experience on what those were.
As a nurse who has had MCA training when I worked a&e I applaud this family for fighting so hard for the truth!
Many people die from medical negligence and many almost die from medical negligence.
I’ve happily risked my career several times to ensure my ill patients who were dying didn’t and forced negligent doctors to do their f-ing job even calling the consultant in from his home due to them.
There is no excuse for the negligence this poor girl got that cost her life
Terrible i couldn’t imagine losing a child and finding all of this out years later
Yes, she's very fortunate. God have blessed her
@@monkeyyura2671 what?
... but he said they presumed she died instantly ... until they paid for a report to show otherwise ...
@@Jester-Riddle So you saying the parents paid lawyers to bend the truth?
@@rickhardman7376 Not at all. The parents were apparently reconciled to the tragedy of an instantaneous death, until they decided to pay for a report that showed otherwise ... Why ?
I still can't fathom how the bombing happened ... When you see the culprit Im 100% certain anyone with a damn brain could see
That grim person wasnt their for a damn concert
I've never seen someone so suspicious in my life
Lifes where lost that shouldn't have been lost yet ....
Lots of people on the night even reported him, but no one did a thing.
its heart-breaking that this young life was taken but the blame is at the feet of the scum who set off the bomb not the first responders, they would have done everything they could. the confusion at the event must have unimaginable
I always remember this father's words. I hope the family is doing better now.
May god rest her soul I can’t fathom what and how much pain the family is going through 😖
It was 3 years ago
@@kokakadoo9101 so?
My point being you dont grieve who you lost forever you move on eventually
@@kokakadoo9101 they lost their eight year old kid and you expect them to move on? Trust me, you don't move on, you just learn to live with the grief.
@@kokakadoo9101 oh shut up.
She was one of the 1st taken away in an ambulance?
Yes. And still people wonder why there isn't any graphic footage of the children injured/dead and dying in the foyer immediately after the explosion!
@Alexandra O'Sullivan I mean there are still “truthers” around on the internet saying it’s all fake and staged. But I hope they never see the actual footage of that night, because they’ll still make it a million times worse!
Salman Abedi was in the foyer at Victoria train station before the end of the concert. Members of the public thought he looked suspicious and reported him to security but they did nothing about it. This could have been prevented from ever happening in the first place. Poor Saffie, her final moments must have been terrifying.
If racial discrimination wasn't a thing, things like these would be easier to avoid. When people always keep saying random people 'look suspicious' based on nothing but their skin it becomes hard to believe any of them, even in cases where there is more to it. A racist version of the boy who cried wolf.
By the time he stepped foot in the building it was too late. Even if police tried to stop him he still would've set off the bomb. There was no way to stop what was coming
I can't believe that the parents hires another team to investigate their daughter case. Why would you do this if not for the money but by doing this they uncovered something terrible who happen to their little girl and now after they had closure with a statement who put this poor little girl to rest, after this horrible terrorist attack which created chaos in Manchester , they are putting themselves again through hell. Personally their kids no amount of money who would push my to digg in to a case like this if it was my own daughter, I couldn't live with the news they just got by their own fault.
The true guilty party is the terrorist so stop try to blame anyone else please.
My heart hurts so much for sweet little Saffie and her family. God Bless them all.
May God comfort you & your family sir. She is resting with God now.
So you are saying "Allahu Akbar." God is great? Just so I understand why when a religious extremist kills a bunch of children you are using it to promote your belief in the same magical invisible sky daddy? Just maybe when the religious kill children it might be a time not to promote religion? Maybe? Just a thought?
TAX RELIGION! Use the money to fund the NHS!
@@AnyoneCanSee Stop being a typical angry atheist just for attention and let people pay their respects. There's always one of you on every video trying to rile people up just because it makes you feel good. Show some some empathy.
@@AnyoneCanSee allahua akbar is also what Muslims say when there praying its a lot older then any terrorist orginaisation
@@AnyoneCanSee how do you tax a religion genuinly curious
If there was a God, do you think he would have allowed this to happen, and if he did, he's no god we should care about.
I dunno, but why I'm feeling so grief when me and her had no connection. R.I.P you will be remembered
I can’t imagine being a first responder that day. Trying to triage all of the victims. So sad 😞
the fire brigade were kept out and not allowed in to the scene
@Hell N Degenerates why??
The issue is the responders failed to give basic trauma care!
No excuses for not using a tourniquet and no excuse for a&e not using a level1 and other equipment that could have easily replaced her huge loss of blood volume.
As a nurse I applaud the family for fighting for answers on why their daughter died when she was conscious and talking at the scene despite horrific blood loss.
No excuses for not giving this beautiful young girl all trauma care interventions to save her life or be able to tell her family they tried everything.
As it stands neither on scene MCA responders nor a&e actually tried everything which is horrific
@NobleGuy so that’s reason to sod those who did die and were failed?!
It’s laughable you even think that way.
Pretty confident if it was your loved one who died and you found out that there were medical interventions that should have been used but weren’t you would be demanding answers also.
The family is rightfully demanding people answer for failing a young girl and answer to why they failed to do basic trauma care!
But I’m sure you with your non medical training and not being MCA trained know far more than anyone else huh
@@irishandscottish1829 you cannot say what another family would or wouldn't think. Frankly, I would likely be questioning the negligence that allowed radical religious zealots to even enter the country, let alone poison the minds of youth. Or the negligence of the public in branding as racist anyone who dares question why such things are allowed, which directly contributed to the ability of the terrorist to go about his business rather than be challenged and possibly apprehended. The public and wokeism are more guilty of the outcome than any medical negligence here. So look in the mirror. What did you do to stop this from happening?
I once went to a lecture by a paramedic who told us about people killed by underground trains. Apparently the victims are quite often talking. The minute they move them they are dead.
Compression or crush injuries are like that.
The area is suddenly compressed which delays the full impact of the injury by keeping the blood trapped there.
But once you stop it being compressed the blood flows freely and time catches up to them.
It's sad but sometimes a victim can basically already be dead from an accident and their body doesn't yet realise it.
The UK govt should give her family full support after so horribly letting them down. Many others too.
enquiries are for those at the top, to shift blame on to someone else. Hillsborough, groomig gangs, Manchester bombing ect
Well said, same old story, they should be prosected
Fuck Islam.
This must be agony for them. Those on scene, first responders, would have been in shock. But paramedics should have known what to do. And in A&E. Through no fault of their own, because medics are human, but possible mistakes must always be investigated. That is not a blame game but good practise. A terrible tragedy.
They could have had PTSD from the situation. It's a very real thing among first responders that needs more attention.
You could have left your comment as the first sentence only.
The rest of it can only cause distress.
No, the paramedics wanted to go in but most were given orders not to until the bomb squad had got there and declared it safe. It resulted in police and civilians carrying people out to medics on makeshift backboards. I think in these situations military medics should be deployed as they already signed up for that risk.
@@aarkaarkangel I wouldn't want to cause anyone distress.
The whole thing would have been a panic and a shock but it's so incredibly important to identify mistakes for training reasons.
@@benjamindover4337 moron
No words for this, RIP
Sleep tight, Saffie. You and the other 21 angels are on my mind every day.
If we don't collectively reject Islam, then this will just keep happening.
@@OpinionParade Search Usman of Manchester attack. He helped lot of people being a Muslim. U can't just take down the religion like that. We must take down the people who think Muslim is a religion to kill to go to heaven. I have Muslim friends and there even hate this type of bombing and war sht.
I love my baby so much, and the thought of loosing her gives me panic attacks, poor parents
@NobleGuy mate you clearly don’t know what it’s like to 1. have a child 2. Have anxiety
@NobleGuy facts.
A catalogue of failures by people who chose to do these jobs & are paid to do these jobs & yet did not?!!!
Noble Guy I lived through the bombing of my native city.I saw the devastation & carnage, pain & suffering.
However, it is not my job to save peoples lives, people are trained to deal with the worst case scenario, they are medics & police & fire fighters they choose to do these jobs & these jobs come with a huge responsibility life & death!!
I have lost close family members to medical incompetence & indifference & bore the brunt of a near useless justice system failing victims of serious crime against me & mine.This is never right or acceptable.
This carnage was allowed happen due to failings in police surveillance, police & security failings at the venue & now we see a catalogue of failings that let this innocent victim die in fear & pain without even the presence of her parents.
You can try to justify this & of course the horrendous situation that was faced by emergency services was shocking & chaotic however that is when the emergency services must step up & do what needs to be done.
Would like to see a keyboard warrior like you wade through blood guts and body parts, trying to deal with dozens of victims with various injuries, all the while worrying another bomb will take your own life. This little girl could not be saved, not under the circumstances. In a perfect world? Maybe, but this was a war zone. These parents need to come to terms with that, not chase a ghost. Theres no one to blame here, other than the bomber.
Sometimes doctors/ nurses don't have enough respect for their patients.
but save the nhs guys
@Jonah Harrison the so called First responders stood outside for over an hour when victims inside were still alive
@@andrewdavy9921 quite often they aren't allowed on the scene until they're certain its safe for them to enter
I understand their pain, but this is outrageous, dealing with a chaotic, explosion with wounded and hectic scenes everywhere. People were trying their best. Zero perspective involved here.
Heartbreaking!😢 I can’t finish the video.
Nor me
Omg horrific how will they be able to carry on I’ve no idea May they get some peace and some comfort from somewhere somehow. Rip in eternal love and light little one
Shes so beautiful x her parents are so inspirational x my heart goes out to all affected x
Poor kid.......my heart breaks for her family
Their poor baby, absolutely heartbreaking not having a family member near 😢
I am devastated even though I never met her. Rip beautiful
Just watched this on BBC one 7.3.22, have to say it impacted on me pretty badly, I'm an older guy and this has left me traumatised, I'm so feeling for her lovely parents , why o why is the need for violence, governments are to blame they can stop the people who do this, need tougher politicians. Honestly I dont know how they cope andcsre so brave..God bless them
I watched it too.
Just heartbreaking....
Little saffie, she's adorable x so sorry this happened to you, your family, and friends x
Bless her heart, God rest her soul
smh i can see why some don’t even trust doctors
Really? Why?
They forget how many injured people there was to triage. Responders wouldn't have had a clue who to treat first
My thoughts are with Saffie and her family
Heartbreaking knowledge. Sometimes it's better not to know.
Security that night were too scared to be called racist after seeing the bomber preying like a maniac inside the arena. Shameful
@@analogdistortion Would YOU know that prayer equated to terrorism?
@@Martial-Mat From the linked article - ''A security guard had a "bad feeling" about suicide bomber Salman Abedi but did not approach him for fear of being branded a racist, an inquiry has heard.
Kyle Lawler, who was 18 at the time of the Manchester Arena attack, was standing 10 or 15ft away from Abedi.
He later told police he was conflicted because he thought something was wrong but could not put his finger on it.''
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-54695580
@@Martial-Mat ''Abedi, 22, dressed all in black and carrying a large rucksack, had been reported to security by a member of the public at 22:15.
Around eight minutes before the bombing, Showsec steward Mohammed Ali Agha alerted Mr Lawler to the report and both began observing Abedi.
In his statement prepared for the inquiry, Mr Lawler said: "I just had a bad feeling about him but did not have anything to justify that."
The witness added that Abedi was "fidgety and sweating".
Mr Lawler said he attempted to use his radio to alert the security control room but claimed he could not get through due to radio traffic.
He then left the arena and took up his position outside the City Room and made no further attempt to raise the alarm.
Mr Lawler agreed he simply "gave up" trying to use the radio and just got on with his job.
In his prepared statement to the inquiry, the Showsec security guard also said: "I felt unsure about what to do.
"It's very difficult to define a terrorist. For all I knew he might well be an innocent Asian male.
"I did not want people to think I am stereotyping him because of his race.
"I was scared of being wrong and being branded a racist if I got it wrong and would have got into trouble. It made me hesitant.
"I wanted to get it right and not mess it up by over-reacting or judging someone by their race."
Mr Lawler agreed that on five separate occasions after the bombing, he made statements, verbally or in writing, where he "deliberately shortened" the time between him leaving the City Room to the bomb going off, "so no one would say, why didn't you do something?" the inquiry was told.
He added he "had a guilty feeling, I had a lot of blame on myself".
@@Martial-Mat I'm a non White myself, and I have personal experience of White people being terrified of asking me simple questions, for fear of being called ''racist''. It's really sad that the security guard felt this way, as many innocent lives could have been saved. If a British minority was acting ''suspicious'', but was in fact harmless and he was investigated by security, then I'm pretty sure the security guard would have had his life destroyed.
And the parents now know this how? A suicide bomber at a major arena full of young people and families: many dead, many injured. You ask enough people and you will get the answer you want to hear. The reality is that this was the fault of an extremist who didn't care who died.
The parents know this due to the inquiry held into the bombing. They had believed their daughter was killed instantly and didn't suffer but when all the evidence was going to be presented at the inquiry they had to be told that the facts to be presented showed that their daughter was awake, talking, even drank water and that medical experts who had examined all the evidence were going to say that there was every chance she would have survived with proper medical care.
If it was just her injured then sure go for it blame the emergency services. But in mass casuality situations you have to make these decisions. Triage is brutal.
This is sad, but I feel they should move on. It must have been a horribly panicked situation. Can't help but feel there's more to the situation. RIP.
I agree. I’m not going to blame the first responders for not applying pressure or whatever the report says they should have done. The first responders must have been traumatized at the sight of dead children and blood everywhere....I’m sure they did everything they could.
@ What other option is there?
@Damion Carter The family is still grieving. Sometimes that grief looks to blame others (even paramedics) as well.
Do you have children?
@Damion Carter Yea I know first responders and nurses. There are one of the most over worked, under paid and under appreciated people in society. I can't see them intentionally neglecting an 8 year old girl.
I don't know him but this just feels like self torture, re-living it again and again seeing what could've been. It doesn't seem healthy. Then again, what could be healthy in that position?
Why are you not blaming the purpetrator? He was mostly responsible for the outcome, and the balance of blame lies squarely with those who sold him the religious propaganda lies.
Rest in peace
Very very sorry for the parents...ah
The public should start getting them out their areas
They shouldn't have released this news. It's just harsh on the family
The family had to be told as at this time as there was a inquiry being held into the bombing.
Everyone was asking for help. And your paid people are on your side and looking at it through a pay day? No wonder they see it different with what happened than someone without monetary gain. Others lost their lives also
Thank you. Somebody with sense and can see this for what it is.
It’s clear you don’t know about trauma care if you are using the ‘other people died’ crap.
As a nurse I can tell you now one of the things the dad was speaking about a&e could have used was a level1 which pumps litres of blood, blood products and fluids into you with in minutes.
He rightly should be asking why they didn’t use it on her if she had lost so much blood already.
He rightly should be asking why no MCA responding doctor, a&e nurse or paramedic applied a tourniquet! Research has shown they can be left in place for 2hours will little problems arising and it’s after 6hours that you will have to amputate. So why the f didn’t the stem the bleeding
I applaud this family for forcing this info coming to light!
Doctors and nurses aren’t god’s and make mistakes and cost patients the lives constantly and should be held responsible for when they do!
As a nurse I fully expect to be held responsible if I was to ever harm or kill a patient through negligence or pure stupidity
@@snsn7251 and? Who cares they rightfully should be compensated esp when it turns out medical negligence caused her to die!
Why wasn’t a tourniquet used when to medically safe to do so and no damage will be caused to the limb for at least 2hours. Why didn’t the use the level1 to replace her huge loss of blood volume by pumping in blood products and fluids via a level1!
This is a disgusting example of sheer negligence and as a nurse I applaud them for fighting for the truth around their daughters death!
A needless death of a child who could have survived and that’s disgusting
When they responded there part of MCA protocol is to have all trauma equipment with them that would be needed like tourniquets etc so there is no excuse for them not having such equipment
Has Richard D Hall exposed a nerve in the establishment?
People get legs blown off and they survived so someone in the hospital is too blame blood iv and a fast operation could save people it happens in the army so if they can do it shows hospitals can but don’t save saveable people I find that strange
What a pity, god bless
Why did they not save her? Did that little girl see the real truth and was then left to die.
@NobleGuy there was Freya Lewis, Adam Lawler, Martin Hibbert and his daughter, Saffie's mother Lisa and sister Ashlee, countless others who were injured that night. We would be nowhere without the NHS.
@NobleGuy I especially hate the people who say the attack was fake and that no one really died. 🤦🏼♀️
She could've survived
So sad..
Look into it
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Get these groomers and terrorists out the UK
No to forced or coerced vaccines, contact your MP
That's right, you spout your sad message ANYWHERE whilst we are feeling their pain.
@@aarkaarkangel lol you psychopaths don’t feel anything.
Really WTF has this to do with the video and it’s just goes to show how you just don’t care...
The girl would of been 12 🥺🥺🥺
13 now.
They all could have survived
So sad 😞
Its a shame that a little girl died. . .in an interview the mother said she was in a coma for 6 weeks confirmed by her husband, but in a report in the newspaper, they said when she woke up after 10 days was told of her daughters death?
Seems more like angry family wants to blame someone...anyone.
Have you children? Doubt It you are probably no more than a child yourself spouting heinous words on your iPhone. Imagine the utter devastation these people are going through? No you can’t you have no empathy!!!!!!
@@TASIAawful1 does it upset you that others have different opinions to you?
god bless this angel
Protect the NHS!? The NHS is no longer fit for purpose. My heart goes out to that poor family.
Painful
Whoever for this is should Burn in Hell she was just a little girl this brought me to tears
Based off how things are going first aid gets prioritized on old people first
Yeah because a terrorist incident is appropriate to compare with the current situation. Idiot.
What do you mean by that remark? Ridiculous
Yeah, tons of OAPs at an Ariana Grande concert.........DUH!
I knew a bunch of boomers would get worked up so I said it
Ambulance chasing legal firm
My thoughts precisely - preying on broken people when they are at their lowest.
And fly high sweet girl let your wings be free
Big Dundee I have stated in my posts I have lived through the bombing of my native city.I know the carnage, the chaos, the horrendous pain & suffering.Unless you yourself know all this & the real threat of secondary devices & living through bomb scares YOU are the Keyboard Warrior.
Nothing wrong during Lockdown trying to change the world take a look at change.org just one example.
My grandfather fought at the Battle of the Somme & my uncle on the D Day Landings their testimonies of the actual experience of war is etched in my mind.
I stand by what I said the evil terrorist could have been taken off the street by the police, he could have been challenged or prevented from detonating his bomb by security & police but he was not.Their failures allowed this terrorists to have the chance to destroy lives.
They deserve the truth. I am sure the first aider has not come out of this unscathed.Two people are responsible for her death. RIP Saffie Roussos.
@NobleGuy Yep they are not equipped to deal with something like that. I saw someone have a heart attack in a gym. The first aider who's primary job was signing new members up panicked and the guy died on the way to hospital. He was never the same after and left the job.
This is sad. Was this the Ariana Grande concert?
Yes
@@Ihsaan1c I was reading about this online. I know Ariana Grande was devastated when this happened at her concert.
Even though I don't like how Ariana has treated her fans, no one (even Ariana) deserved this. This was horrific. That poor little girl. Even worse was the media making it all about the pop star and not the victims.
It was on her birthday too 😿
@@fxllmoonz1428 the attack wasn't on her birthday. Ariana's birthday is in June, the attack was in May.
Heartbreaking
I don't think speculation by people that were not there helps anybody, especially her family. "Could" just renews the pain. I feel for her parents, but speculation does not help. Please bear in mind the conditions that the first responders had to work in. 💔
Oh my lord 🙏
I have 6 kids I can't imagine how he feels so sorry mate this is so sad I hate the world we live in nowadays
Rip
Awfully sad :(
God her poor dad it's painful to watch.RIP BABY GIRL💜
Omg this breaks my heart 😭
Shocking and sad I’d be be angry as shit
Never blame the medics for helping save a life. Remember the reason why this happend .
The real question is why wasn't anything done to stop the bleeding? Even in field surgery you'd use a t-shirt, a sock or hell even the persons own clothing and infections are a secondary concern as it's far more treatable than a lack of blood. You may end-up half naked from the clothing taken off you but its better than being dead. Also also, stay classy BBC for deleting the comment.
Wonder how the paramedics would have reacted if it was their own child they were treating 🤔
@NobleGuy If you can’t react correctly as an EMERGENCY responder then you are in the wrong job dumass!
So sad
Failed by the security services, failed by the steward who was scared to racially profile the suspect. Failed by the poilce who went on a lunch break... Failed by the taxi driver who didn't report the suspicious indiivudal who gave him a Koran on the day of the bombing and failed by the emergency services.
Just awful. It breaks your heart. I wonder how this helps the family? Unless a fully equipped doctor is present there will always be cases like this. You can see both sides, but how is this helping the family?
Why was the 8 year old not with her dad at the time anyway????? Shit parenting if you tell me
He was waiting for her outside the arena but she was declared missing. By the time her dad tracked her down, she was already dead.
@@callmecharlottex why was an 8 year old on her own unsupervised??? Shit parenting still
@@darthwaffleass696 she wasn’t at the concert on her own. She was with her mum and sister.
@@callmecharlottex so why weren’t they by her side. Your missing the point. An 8 year old was left unsupervised by her family. Also where does it say she was with her mom and sister?
@@darthwaffleass696 if you took two seconds to do a Google search, every news article about her says she was with her mum and sister.
They could of all been saved if the flood gates weren't opened years ago. Or maybe lock up all these nutters on so called 'watchlists'
Manchester sin duda alguno eres asombroso y verdaderamente bello
Sabiendo bien que está pequeñita (que en paz descanse) pudo salvarse ustedes no hechan tierra de los hechos y tratan de comprender a la perfección quienes son las verdaderas víctimas y quienes son los verdaderos culpables de esto sin duda alguna es increíble su nivel de amor y hermosura 🥺🥺🥺
Pobre saffe que feo que le toco sufrir mucho pero de algo si estoy segura y es que siempre vivirá en la memoria de manchester y de muchos también que en estos momentos su espíritu encontró la luz que todo ángel necesita para ir al cielo ❤️❤️❤️
Always love saffie forever