How to Glue On Car/Truck Rocker Panels - No Welding!

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  • Shows how to glue on a car or truck rocker panel with SEM impact resistant panel adhesive. No welding! Tools and materials are listed below.
    *Glue: SEM Structural Impact Resistant Adhesive - Part Number 39757
    *Drill: Mac Tools
    *Air Hammer: Older Chicago Pneumatic & Older Rodac (Red)
    *Chisel Bit for Air Hammer: shop.snapon.com/product/Slitt...
    *3/8" Impact - Sioux IW38HAP-3F
    *Electric Sander/Polisher: www.harborfreight.com/corded-...
    *Small Sander/grinder: www.harborfreight.com/5-in-hi...
    *Patch Panel/New Rocker Panel: Raybuck's Auto Body Parts or Mill Supply Inc.
    *Die grinder: www.harborfreight.com/1-4-qua...
    *Rivets: 3/16" - www.ebay.com/itm/265358328739...
    *Cut Off Wheel for Die Grinder: 3 In. X 1/16 In. X 3/8 In. Metal Cut-Off Wheels www.harborfreight.com/power-t...
    *Large Vise Grip Clamps: www.harborfreight.com/search?...
    *Other Clamps: Various C clamps and vise grips
    *Pointed Body Hammer: www.jbtools.com/martin-tools-...
    *36/40 Grit Fiber Resin Discs: benchmarkabrasives.com/collec...
    *Broken Cheese Grater Blade for Shaving Bondo: www.amazon.com/Stanley-21-299...
    *Body Filler: Auto Body Master lightweight body filler
    *Metal Spreaders: www.ebay.com/itm/191941112065...
    *Sand Paper (To Fold): www.ebay.com/itm/362600724326...
    *5" DA: National Detroit DA
    *Palm Sander DA: www.amazon.com/Random-Orbital...
    *Spray Gun: www.campbellhausfeld.com/spra...
    *Primer surfacer: Auto Body Master lacquer primer surfacer thinned with Auto Body Master lacquer thinner
    *Tape: 3M Auto Body Refinishing Tape
    / @lakesideautobody
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  • @georgechristilaw6282
    @georgechristilaw6282 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I’m going to do my rockers and cab corners with the 3M adhesive. I am going to rivet the panels like you did. Use bono for the edges and grind down the rivet heads down enough and bondo them as well then prime and paint. But before I do all of that I will be painting the rust/ rot areas with a metal rust inhibitor first.

  • @NoferTrunions
    @NoferTrunions ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Sure eliminates a bunch of welding!
    I like the idea of gluing the spot weal flanges since they will be sealed and not wick water.
    I've used self drilling, self tapping, washer head screw on flanges and laps which pull the pieces together nicely - then when all installed remove one at a time and pop-rivet if desired or a visible area.

  • @csflmich2239
    @csflmich2239 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    No matter the method, you always do top-notch work! Thanks for sharing your knowledge! I have learned a lot on your channel.

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I appreciate that my friend - have a good weekend :)

  • @davidbondy4359
    @davidbondy4359 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    as usual great job,you don't know how to do bad work. you are a professional to the highest standard of the word.

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks a lot David - I appreciate the kind words. Have a good week :)

  • @josephpuchel6497
    @josephpuchel6497 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is excellent work. Great job Jerry

  • @robertfox321
    @robertfox321 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    your videos are incredibly helpful. I love how you show every step. keep 'em coming!

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks Robert - I appreciate the support - have a great week :)

  • @jtacree8510
    @jtacree8510 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks Jerry for the confidence on glueing my floor pans down , you do great work !

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Let me know how it goes for you. Have a good weekend and thanks for the support :)

  • @not-fishing4730
    @not-fishing4730 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the video, it gives me options to welding and grinding. Also I love the finger painting, I thought I was the only one to do that.

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're welcome. Have a good weekend :)

  • @J_R_Shop
    @J_R_Shop 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent work! Thank you Jerry!

  • @jimbass924
    @jimbass924 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video with detailed steps... easy to follow!

  • @bruceperron3796
    @bruceperron3796 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I used both glue and welds when i do bedsides and quarter panels,the new adhesives are really good nowadays.

  • @davidbrown-55
    @davidbrown-55 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Beautiful work as always. You make it look easy.

  • @RaysLaughsAndLyrics
    @RaysLaughsAndLyrics 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice option indeed. Thanks for sharing your time and talent. Have a great weekend.

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're welcome - you have a good weekend to my friend :)

  • @unclemarksdiyauto
    @unclemarksdiyauto ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What a great video, Jerry! I did a search and when I seen your video pop up, I knew I should look no further! Great explanation and step by step instructions. I will be doing this before the snow flys, I hope. Thanks again!

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're welcome Uncle Mark. Let me know how it goes 😊

  • @pstreetgarage7304
    @pstreetgarage7304 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Always amazed at how thin the mating surfaces are. Beautiful though. No welding or distortion.

    • @MikeOrazzi
      @MikeOrazzi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This might work on my Jeep. Thanks.

  • @bigytv8392
    @bigytv8392 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent, no BS video. Thanks!

  • @martymurphy9627
    @martymurphy9627 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you, Jerry. Another great informative video.

  • @johnbarker5009
    @johnbarker5009 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That makes a really fine repair.

  • @smaksymiv4950
    @smaksymiv4950 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love how that stuff can adhere aluminum to steel panels ( my inner rocker panels are made of an old diamond plate tool box ) stuck like glue ... understatement of all time.

    • @MrTheHillfolk
      @MrTheHillfolk ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a godsend for Smyth Ute conversions, mine actually has a stiffer chassis because of it's use instead of the rivets supplied with the kit.
      Haha modern technology,you can actually weld aluminum to steel now 😀

  • @tykellerman6384
    @tykellerman6384 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looks great hard to imagine glue that strong🤠👍

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  ปีที่แล้ว

      Here it is a few years later if interested - th-cam.com/video/gIS1Tbv7Kvw/w-d-xo.html

  • @MoOmran-zr5rf
    @MoOmran-zr5rf ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Beautiful piece of work sir! Thank you

  • @davegallucci9327
    @davegallucci9327 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was just thinking about glueing panels. U read my mind! Good video, Thanks!

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good thinking Dave. Have a good weekend :)

  • @brucesheehe6305
    @brucesheehe6305 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing adhesive technology - used in new construction in autos and aircraft too.Just like Brylcream - a little dab will do ya! Jerry will save your ride!

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the support Bruce - haven't seen or heard of that stuff in a while :)

  • @husky1239
    @husky1239 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    As always Jerry you do great job

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I appreciate it Husky - have a great week :)

  • @raymeyers2163
    @raymeyers2163 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the video's glad I found your channel. I am considering trying some similar work on my 2000 silverado and my 04 f250.

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're welcome. Let me know if you have questions. I answer once or twice a day. Jerry

  • @bjr2379
    @bjr2379 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another awesome video! Thanks! 👍

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're welcome RJB - have a good week :)

  • @macpherson3182
    @macpherson3182 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice job . wheni built my camper i boughtt a air riveter it really saved my hands

  • @RedWhiteAndBlueVideo
    @RedWhiteAndBlueVideo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I used screws on my cab corners but removed after the adhesive dried and covered with waterproof filler. Matter of fact the factory only had a couple spot welds and adhesive. I welded the rockers. I think next time I may tack and use panel bond. It is very strong, and in areas like my Silverado corners, I didn’t want to start the cab on fire.

    • @davegallucci9327
      @davegallucci9327 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That happened to one of my trucks. Caught the interior on fire. I still remember the call I received.

    • @MrTheHillfolk
      @MrTheHillfolk ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I just built a Smyth Ute from a Jetta.
      Using panelbond with the kit just made the chassis so much more solid, now when I jack the left front up to change the tire ,the right side follows, and is only like 1-2" from what the left side height is.
      No more dragging the jack from side to side to change tires 😂

    • @brianmccoy9708
      @brianmccoy9708 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wish I had I actually caught my cab on fire on my f250 I punched thru before I could get it out lost my seat belt inner panel an corner of seat think God its my work truck I'll just pull out back seat it's always full of tools anyway I dud my cab corners live an learn

  • @308hit
    @308hit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice work....

  • @buchanansleeve7427
    @buchanansleeve7427 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looks great your work is awesome.

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Buchanan Sleeve - I appreciate the support :)

  • @elian222
    @elian222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeap panel adhesive is the way to go now 👍

  • @jayinmi3706
    @jayinmi3706 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I've been considering using this or a similar product to cover the sunroof opening in my car. Would be nice not to have to gut the interior to protect everything from weld sparks.

  • @805ROADKING
    @805ROADKING 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Well done Bud!! Excellent repair!!☻

  • @billhayward2668
    @billhayward2668 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Turned out great.

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Bill - have a good weekend my friend :)

  • @gm-lb9oe
    @gm-lb9oe 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video Jerry thank you

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're welcome G M - have a good weekend :)

  • @chrismedaris4873
    @chrismedaris4873 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your skills are amazing just saying ty for showing this

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You're welcome Chris - glad you like these videos. Enjoy the week my friend :)

  • @stever3953
    @stever3953 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video. I would like to try this some time

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  ปีที่แล้ว

      You're welcome Steve - here for ?s if you need :)

  • @HappyBarn-lv6bm
    @HappyBarn-lv6bm 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great job

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks - have a good weekend :)

  • @justwatchingffs371
    @justwatchingffs371 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video! If you were to do another one, some more detail of how to cut out the old panel to fit the new one could be helpful.

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Here's another - If you need more let me know, I'll send more 😊 th-cam.com/video/U67IHaurCaM/w-d-xo.html

  • @plumbucket65
    @plumbucket65 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks

  • @douglasdailey5998
    @douglasdailey5998 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dang nice job. I wished i lived in your neck of the woods, my truck would be looking pretty sweet.

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Douglas - have a good week :)

    • @douglasdailey5998
      @douglasdailey5998 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LakesideAutobody you have a good week as well. I didn't notice what state are you in.

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@douglasdailey5998 Michigan - used to live just east of Detroit :)

  • @camarogtz1392
    @camarogtz1392 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice

  • @darrenlub
    @darrenlub 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bulk jb weld?. Great repair. Wish u were my neighbor..

  • @travr6
    @travr6 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was considering doing this but honestly welding seems so much easier.

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Welding is much easier but this gives you a 100% water tight seam (if you're concerned with that 😊)

  • @bobvee5037
    @bobvee5037 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice job😎

  • @robertstaff
    @robertstaff 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thats amazing. Bonding technology has come a long way. Would this be your first choice method or would you stick to familiar welding option?

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      If it was my truck, I would probably glue all rust repair simply because of the water tight seams. Certainly though there will be times that your only choice. Thanks for watching Robert - have a good weekend :)

  • @WSallai
    @WSallai 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    First-time viewer, now a subscriber. Thanks for showing us how to take care of rusty rocker panels without welding equipment. Your lighting, explanations, and demonstration of work were very good. I've seen some people on TH-cam advocating the use of expanding foam inside the rocker panels. Would that be something to do to prevent rust from reoccurring or is it unnecessary?

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Absolutely not necessary and blocks drainage. Ford tried that on Ranger quarter panels and it trapped moisture and thus rotted out the panels. Drainage and a squirt of oil at the bottom of the panel works the best - see video - th-cam.com/video/8XaZBy7GC7A/w-d-xo.html

  • @steveleston276
    @steveleston276 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    excellent video & workmanship, I don't have the 2 tube chaulk gun can I substitute your glue w/ 3m 5200 I use it on marine stuff and it's extremely strong. I was planning on fabbing my own panel out of alimiun buy hand forming. one rocker is a only 1/3 rusted other rocker is completely rotton.

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I really don't see why you couldn't. I glued in a whole van floor with metal roof adhesive and self tappers and once cured it wasn't going anywhere. Have a good weekend Steve :)

  • @paullalande
    @paullalande ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video there is a reason body work is so expensive

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  ปีที่แล้ว

      You're right about that materials are $ and labor is $ :)

  • @joebaucom4537
    @joebaucom4537 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You Do Great Work !

  • @t.e.1189
    @t.e.1189 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where is the previous video showing removing the welds, separating the rusty rocker and fixing up the inner panel? How many videos in all for this repair?
    Your videos are very informative and absolutely great! I hate loud annoying music and people pretending to know what their talking about and instead just passing on misinformation and wasting my time. Your videos are nothing like that. Thank you very much!

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  ปีที่แล้ว

      I appreciate that T.E. - Here's every video on this truck: th-cam.com/play/PLOP9eoG14-I_5orQdo3G4zEQPXmCkaK4K.html & here's the previous video to this one - th-cam.com/video/NmsCrQ-7L0U/w-d-xo.html Finally, this is the other side but welded - it may help you out too - th-cam.com/video/U67IHaurCaM/w-d-xo.html

  • @cocopublicnews6766
    @cocopublicnews6766 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Seems better than riveting on a new floor pan

  • @kittydaddy2023
    @kittydaddy2023 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. I'm just going to live with the rust.

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've done that too. Actually had a van that I just cut out all the rust and left the holes (painted them though). It stayed that way for 10+ years 'cause there was no place for the moisture, debris, mud and salt to settle. Give the water a way out and you're gold 🛠

    • @kittydaddy2023
      @kittydaddy2023 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LakesideAutobody I'm going to keep watching the videos until I get up the courage to do it LOL

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kittydaddy2023 You can do it - that's just the facts. You're first attempt may be a bit rough but after that you'll know what to do better the next time :)

    • @kittydaddy2023
      @kittydaddy2023 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LakesideAutobody it's always scary cutting on your DD

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kittydaddy2023 Especially if the neighbors like to watch :)

  • @darrickcover2200
    @darrickcover2200 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    great job i bet this would outlast a welded in panel it seems the weld is the first place rust starts back

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're right - that is the weak link of a welded patch.

  • @genemyersmyers6710
    @genemyersmyers6710 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish i seen this a year ago,i went and did the quick covers instead.

  • @technicalitems731
    @technicalitems731 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the content! Is there an issue with dissimilar metals? (Aluminum rivets against steel rocker parts).

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have never had a problem. You can leave the rivets out if you want. Just tap those holes down and fill with fiberglass reinforced filler first for waterproof filler. Then use your regular filler to finish up. I glue the rivets it so that's probably why there's no issues. Here's the follow up video on this repair - th-cam.com/video/gIS1Tbv7Kvw/w-d-xo.html I appreciate the support TI - have a good Easter :)

  • @jordandodds7881
    @jordandodds7881 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Looks awesome! Would you be intetested in doing a Supercrew?

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Jordan. Right now I am sort of backed up till the fall. Sorry :)

    • @jordandodds7881
      @jordandodds7881 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LakesideAutobody ok thank you!

  • @theartofwanderlust
    @theartofwanderlust 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this becoming the new normal, for body shops? What do you feel are the biggest advantages of this method? I no longer have a welder and was planning on repurchasing one for my project truck. I had no idea this product even existed.
    Great work, thanks for posting this

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're welcome. I've stopped at a few shops after retiring to see what's going on. I welded most of my career but many are now using glues because of the water proof seam. I do think it is a bit more challenging than welding a patch but I feel that the water tight seam is probably the way to go for maximum longevity :)

    • @clifftangeman905
      @clifftangeman905 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would have to say using glue is a much faster process safer hell no! Shops use to glue and have gotten away from this method because of the liability that comes with it! Your own project sure but it will fail at the seams why not just use seam sealer and not even fill the seams if your going rogue

  • @captainjohnh9405
    @captainjohnh9405 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How much working time do you have with the glue, and what size rivets are you using? Thanks!

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You have plenty of time - like 2-3 hours. I used 3/16" x 3/8" - 3/8 is the length of the rivet. There's no worries at all about the stuff hardening up on you. It will take overnight for it to set up and allow you to continue working on the vehicle.

  • @brandontomalewski8277
    @brandontomalewski8277 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I might have to do my inner rockers never done anything like this before but I am mechanically inclined and know my way around tools. But my question is can you do the inner rockers the same way with the adhesive and rivets? I don’t own a welder nor have welding experience.

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes. Glue and rivets will work fine. You are only limited by your own imagination. Of course when it comes to frame work, or structural components, you'll want to weld. BTW you can learn to weld in 1 minute and a good gas mig welder is around 200 bucks - I'm in the middle of doing a review on one that will be around 150 :) Here's how easy it is...th-cam.com/video/1BYqLM_mY1s/w-d-xo.html

  • @rosshoffman8473
    @rosshoffman8473 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you we’re doing squarebody rockers how would you use rivets or would u use self tappers and after it dries remove and fill w more panel bond?

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Here's a video that may help - th-cam.com/video/2vEPQimW564/w-d-xo.html & these - th-cam.com/video/6RuoEhUZP9U/w-d-xo.html this is welding it in place - th-cam.com/video/Q3NMsZq09Uc/w-d-xo.html

  • @tomschaerer7515
    @tomschaerer7515 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know they aircraft sheet metal on airliners. Heard a rumor the stuff can take 2500lbsper square inch and takes HIGH heat to break it free. Gotta be con firmed though. Pretty sure cars woud at least be partially glued

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  ปีที่แล้ว

      You're right - Boeing, Airbus, etc. use glue and rivets to connect the panels together.

  • @ericbutler856
    @ericbutler856 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m thinking about glueing the rockers on me 2006 Ford e 250 do you have any videos of you doing vans

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't - sorry. Most rocker panels are very very similar though. I looked that rocker replacement up and it looks like you can glue around the whole perimeter. raybuck.com/product/1992-12-ford-van-front-oem-rocker-panel-driver-side/?gclid=CjwKCAjw9LSSBhBsEiwAKtf0nyrpJj__

  • @atlmv3255
    @atlmv3255 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you have longterm review for wheel arch install with glue.?

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's still fine - one of my friends trucks. I'll do a follow up video on that - good idea. You can rest assured that it'll last as long as we're here on earth :)

  • @terrychristle1477
    @terrychristle1477 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve got an 2010 F150 crew cab. Need cab corners and rockers. Would this process work for both? Are these different panels that can be glued on, or is it just a different process with same new replacement parts? Great video!!

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      As long as you have a pinch weld at the top & bottom of the rocker (inner panel spot welded to outer) you can do it because the ends are lapped or can be lapped. Here's a video or two on more gluing - th-cam.com/video/wRl1QfkrBeY/w-d-xo.html here's a follow up on repairs like this - th-cam.com/video/gIS1Tbv7Kvw/w-d-xo.html Heck, after they are glued on it looks a ton better w/o even filling, priming and painting :)

    • @terrychristle1477
      @terrychristle1477 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LakesideAutobody thanks for the reply and added information. Sounds like your pretty booked up for work?

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@terrychristle1477 You're welcome Terry - I do have a lot going on right now but I'm focusing on slowing it down a bit :)

  • @durzolife
    @durzolife 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would using the structural adhesive be suitable for a unibody rocker panel?

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Here's one way to think about it.... If your rockers are already gone - like rusted - gone, would it be better to have something there or nothing. I would not be afraid to use it for unibody myself but you'll probably hear some negative stuff from others. If you're really uncertain weld them in or have them welded in - hope that helps a bit :)

  • @porschmn167
    @porschmn167 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I noticed you were using aluminum rivets, don't you worry about the two different metals reacting with each other especially in a area where they use salt on the roads?

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm not worried at all because of these factors. 1) They are now buried or incased in glue and will not "see" moisture. 2) I will treat the rust repair after painting so that you'll never have to worry about salt on the roads. See this video for more on that process - th-cam.com/video/y05dNxt-nVc/w-d-xo.html Hope that helps answer your ?s a bit - Jerry

  • @terryneubrand1448
    @terryneubrand1448 ปีที่แล้ว

    After you finish the body work and paint it you're still probably going to have a ghost line come through where that seam was do you have that problem with that doing it this way

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  ปีที่แล้ว

      Many body shops use glues for rust repair - you have to tap the seam down to eliminate any problems w/ gl's - th-cam.com/video/gIS1Tbv7Kvw/w-d-xo.html

  • @jefferypowell9885
    @jefferypowell9885 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    are we driving model cars that glue together

  • @MrRockydee07
    @MrRockydee07 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a 2011 Crown Victoria police interceptor with 13 antenna holes one is 2" the rest are 3/4", 9 in roof 4 in trunk is the glued sheet metal permanent or is welding in plugs better I really don't want to weld . THANKS

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glued sheet metal is permanent and in my opinion superior to any other method due to the water tight seam. Sometimes you have to weld though so it's always good and never too late to learn :)

    • @MrRockydee07
      @MrRockydee07 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LakesideAutobody thank you .

  • @MrTheHillfolk
    @MrTheHillfolk ปีที่แล้ว

    12:00 curious about what my autobody buddyvtold me ,and thats to be careful because panelbond can "ghost" thru paint and it can be hard to seal?
    Will filler seal it?

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  ปีที่แล้ว

      A lot of folks make the mistake of trying to avoid filler. Filler is a great buffer between the seam and the finish. Knock the seam down, fill, prime, paint - no problems. Here's a follow up video on this repair 3 years later - zero ghosting - th-cam.com/video/gIS1Tbv7Kvw/w-d-xo.html

  • @uglyangelracing
    @uglyangelracing ปีที่แล้ว

    How much of the adhesive is required per side? I have an avalanche with all new sheet metal ready to go. Just wanted to order the 3M adhesive but not sure how much I need.

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  ปีที่แล้ว

      You'll do fine with one tube. I used a little under 1/2 tube for this project.

  • @bestillandknow3939
    @bestillandknow3939 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have facing a similar job. I was wondering about adherence over paint. On the other hand, with your method, you have bare metal exposed to the moisture inside the rocker. What is the solution?

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Never worry about bare metal inside - honestly. What causes rust on vehicles is the inability to dry out inside. If you make sure the panels can drain and dry out inside you'll never have problems :) Check this vid out for longevity - th-cam.com/video/8XaZBy7GC7A/w-d-xo.html and th-cam.com/video/idrLzsz2eLg/w-d-xo.html

  • @leonardcrisci7254
    @leonardcrisci7254 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a few spots in the floor I have to cut out and put in patch panels Would that glue work Instead of welding

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Absolutely. You could easily screw and glue it. I once screwed and glued an entire full size van floor in with panel adhesive because I didn't want to mess up the galvanized steel when welding it. Worked just fine - very strong :)

    • @leonardcrisci7254
      @leonardcrisci7254 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LakesideAutobody OK thank you

  • @EChunter
    @EChunter ปีที่แล้ว

    You have a video removing the old rocker ?

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes - th-cam.com/video/NmsCrQ-7L0U/w-d-xo.html

  • @mikewilliams6767
    @mikewilliams6767 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't know if i missed it but how many tubes of the adhesive did you need for both sides?

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I only did one side with the glue. The other side was welded. You will only need one tube though :)

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I only did one side with the glue. The other side was welded. You will only need one tube though :)

  • @jerryp2433
    @jerryp2433 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this better than butt welding for corrosion? Doesn't using rivets leave a place for rust to build behind the panel?

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  ปีที่แล้ว

      In my opinion there are many methods better than butt welding. The reason? No one can guarantee that their weld or welds are water proof. On top of that they are claiming that they metal finish. That means there are pin holes right under the finish waiting for rust to bubble the paint. A glued seam is water tight guaranteed - it will last as long as a new panel. As for the rivets - you really don't need them. Moisture will never hang around that area. It will continue down the panel till it reaches the bottom. Make sure you provide for drainage so that the bottom of the panel can drain and stay dry.

    • @jerryp2433
      @jerryp2433 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LakesideAutobody does the glue block the drain channels at the bottom of the rocker? I think I see some people wedging a drill bit in there while spot welding to leave a gap for the water to drain. Do you just not apply the glue to that raised area?

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jerryp2433 No glue in the raised areas, leave a gap - especially at the ends of the rocker, or drill your own drain holes. No drainage = rust/rot. Good thinking Jerry

    • @jerryp2433
      @jerryp2433 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LakesideAutobody I just bought an Eastwood 90 mig welder for $200 for my MGB...Now I'm considering doing the outer rockers using panel bonding. It just seems more rust proof than spot welds. Also heard it was stronger.

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jerryp2433 To be honest MIG welding would probably be easier if you are decent at MIG welding but you're right you'll never have to worry about the seems if you glue it. Something to think about I guess - that's the fun of it 😊

  • @leonardoestrada5899
    @leonardoestrada5899 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know with different shops prices vary, but how much should i expect to pay if i was to get rocker panels and cab corners replaced?

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A low estimate for rocker panel rep (1 side) would be around 500. This particular truck has an integrated rocker panel - the cab corner is part of the rocker.

    • @zacharysmith737
      @zacharysmith737 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LakesideAutobody what about a 2002 jeep liberty both my rockers are rusted through and taped up I got it used this guy got me it from his buddy after waiting months after giving him my other jeep and that's my Main focus right now the rockers so how much would it cost to replace my rockers labor and parts included?

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zacharysmith737 Prices for rocker replacement vary greatly from shop to shop - and it's hard to find any shop that does it still. Anyway the rocker panel would coast around 75 and labor could be anything from 500-1000 plus any other materials and paint. Jerry

    • @zacharysmith737
      @zacharysmith737 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LakesideAutobody thanks yeah my dad said he dont think there's anyone around where we live that would do it plus I'd figured it wouldn't be cheap so I priced welding machines and the mask the rods some paint etc that I'd need way cheaper that way plus I'll learn how to weld ive already started watching videos on it specifically mostly hiw to replace or repair the rocker panels on my particular vehicle i kniw it's a big job but I think it'll he good to learn to do it myself itd save me a huge amount of money plus it's a good skill to have.

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zacharysmith737 It's a very good skill to have. You use that skill for the rest of your life - it may make you a lot of $ in addition :)

  • @joelaurino3903
    @joelaurino3903 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm looking at the parts list for the tools but don't see a link to buy the rocker panel

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Rockers can be bought at millsupply or raybucks

    • @joelaurino3903
      @joelaurino3903 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Is this a structural rocker panel that you normally weld on or or a slip on rocker panel like the one at raybucks website. i.e. part # 0864-105 or is it part# 0864-107.@@LakesideAutobody

  • @PeteR-or5kj
    @PeteR-or5kj 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any reason why you didn't take off the doors?

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No - you can take the doors off if you want. I like to keep them on so I can make sure the gap is right at the bottom and sides also.

  • @MERCNRY
    @MERCNRY 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    recessed rivets in the ends?

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The rivets at the end of the rocker (box end) were done from the underside of the vehicle - in other words I put them in backwards or from the backside so that's actually the other side of the rivet that's showing. Hope that wasn't too confusing :)

  • @terrypurviance2513
    @terrypurviance2513 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You have just cost my body man friend some income. He's been monkeying around putting me off so I'll be trying it myself

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's great - actually most guys avoid rust repair so it's good to learn to do it yourself. I'm willing to bet you'll do a better job too :)

  • @kevinarcher7701
    @kevinarcher7701 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What tool are you using to cut that metal with.

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Here's one thing I was using on the air hammer - shop.snapon.com/product/Slitting-Chisels/Air-Hammer-Slitting-Chisel/PHG61B and here's another tool used - www.harborfreight.com/1-4-quarter-inch-rear-exhaust-air-die-grinder-52847.html with this cut off wheel - www.harborfreight.com/power-tools/grinding-cutting-wheels/cut-off-wheels/3-in-x-116-in-x-38-in-metal-cut-off-wheels-10-pk-61354.html

    • @kevinarcher7701
      @kevinarcher7701 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LakesideAutobody sorry I should have been more precise. It was the first tool. Thanks for taking the time to answer.

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kevinarcher7701 You're welcome Kevin - that tool is one of the most handy bits for the air hammer - make sure you get a good name brand one so it can take a beating :)

  • @caseyhart8348
    @caseyhart8348 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the name of the glue did u use

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  ปีที่แล้ว

      SEM Structural Impact Resistant Adhesive - Part Number 39757 All tools and materials is listed under the video description :)

  • @jesusbrito59
    @jesusbrito59 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How much does a job like this cost? Just out of curiosity.

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Prices vary greatly from shop to shop. $500 would be a low estimate for one side.

  • @73superglide62
    @73superglide62 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Glue new wave 4 DIY

  • @BreakerBreaker1320
    @BreakerBreaker1320 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Coat the inside with wax?

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes - you can do that or just squirt some used motor oil in there and let it creep around to coat all the nooks and crannies like this - th-cam.com/video/8XaZBy7GC7A/w-d-xo.html

  • @luigiprovencher8888
    @luigiprovencher8888 ปีที่แล้ว

    How much would you charge someone for something like this?

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  ปีที่แล้ว

      Prices vary greatly from shop to shop - average is anything from 500-1000 per side and I'm thinking today it's probably more. I actually never did the estimates where I worked - was a body man. Now that I'm retired, I just take on work around town to make videos - once again, I'm not writing estimates :)

  • @stevekovacs6250
    @stevekovacs6250 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How does the glue hold up to heat?

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It holds up fine to regular everyday heat such as the sun, etc. I have not experienced a situation where an exhaust side pipe is right next to the panel. If you need extreme heat protection JB Weld is the answer - th-cam.com/video/wRl1QfkrBeY/w-d-xo.html Repair is still fine today - will do a follow up soon on it :)

    • @stevekovacs6250
      @stevekovacs6250 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The panel sits under the trunk area just above the exhaust system but with airflow. My only issue since its an air-cooled (Porsche 914) it might get hot sitting idling in traffic. In my post haste to finish other panels near by and paint them I forgot the important panel the heat shield above the exhaust pipe. If I weld it in I will damage the inside trunk fresh painted space. @@LakesideAutobody

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Here's the data sheet on the SEM - semproducts.com/public/content/techsheets/TDS_dual-mix_structural_impact_resistant_adhesive_0719.pdf I would use JB Weld - I used that on an EGR return tube right out of the exhaust manifold and it held up for years until I sold the truck. It's resistant up to 550 degrees :)@@stevekovacs6250

    • @stevekovacs6250
      @stevekovacs6250 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for that! I will take your advise and just go that way. I continue to follow your site.@@LakesideAutobody

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Let me know how it goes for you and ask ?s along the way if needed :)@@stevekovacs6250

  • @rickychildoftheking5266
    @rickychildoftheking5266 ปีที่แล้ว

    I believe you should have smeared the glue on all the bare metal to protect it from rusting

  • @truckerdaddy-akajohninqueb4793
    @truckerdaddy-akajohninqueb4793 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    No doubt you do top notch work, but it doesn't seem complete without a weld

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks John. Quebec sounds like a nice place to live :)

  • @91rss
    @91rss 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    being structural , some places want everything welded, no pop rivets alowed.

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The rockers on this truck is not really structural as it has been driven for about 10 years without rockers. That panel that I glued the rocker to is super thick - like 16 gauge - and welded to the floor and braces that are also integral to the floor. I think Ford knows that the rockers are going to rust so they make sure you don't need them :)

  • @flap0000
    @flap0000 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Aren't you worried about all the bare metal left in there accelerating the rusting process?

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not at all. Drainage of a panel is key and if you want to see how to protect any panel from further rust new or old check out this video - th-cam.com/video/8XaZBy7GC7A/w-d-xo.html

  • @stephenterpstra4902
    @stephenterpstra4902 ปีที่แล้ว

    That panel bond was a waste of money if your gonna rivet it use 1 or other no need for both

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tell that to Boeing ☺ They build commercial jets with glue and rivets. Would you rather fly in a 747 built with only rivets or only glue?

  • @edwinschwank2446
    @edwinschwank2446 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    All because American car companies don't know how to build a truck that won't rust out....but now, Ford has finally figured it out. Buy a GM and see what it looks like in 5 years.....guess how much that truck will be worth compared to a Ford with aluminum body??? $5k? $8k?? So why buy a GM?? We won't talk about the cylinder delete issue and burning a quart of oil every thousand miles and ....what that does to the CAT??

  • @user-ui1lj8vi1y
    @user-ui1lj8vi1y 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good day sir and thank you, I've learned a ton from your videos. You've inspired the confidence in me to want to give this a go on my F150. A couple questions for you as I gather the tools and materials. On a 4 door supercrew will it require one each of the SEM 39757 per side? Also does the SEM come w the applicator gun? I found the SEM at a few sites but not finding the applicator/mixing gun. Thank you for any advice.

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You'll need a gun like this - www.amazon.com/JES-Innovations-200-Component-Cartridge/dp/B07DFW75MN/ref=pd_lpo_sccl_3/146-7586400-7150432?pd_rd_w=mO6wx&content-id=amzn1.sym.116f529c-aa4d-4763-b2b6-4d614ec7dc00&pf_rd_p=116f529c-aa4d-4763-b2b6-4d614ec7dc00&pf_rd_r=DXA2FYDTNF4FQJWZRZ0V&pd_rd_wg=965pU&pd_rd_r=0cab0952-c6d6-4b28-91af-4fc1dcfbb11f&pd_rd_i=B07DFW75MN&th=1

    • @user-ui1lj8vi1y
      @user-ui1lj8vi1y 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LakesideAutobodythank you for the info

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@user-ui1lj8vi1y 👍

  • @tommyp110
    @tommyp110 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone know where I could find patch panel glue on for quarter panel 2013 camaro?

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  ปีที่แล้ว

      You can use the panel adhesive used in this video without a problem :)

    • @tommyp110
      @tommyp110 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LakesideAutobody I can't find any patch panels

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tommyp110 You can always make your own. I have a few videos on making homemade patch panels. Here's one - th-cam.com/video/HiwVTSYFgB4/w-d-xo.html

    • @tommyp110
      @tommyp110 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LakesideAutobody Thanks I'll check it out