Outer Limits at the 2023 Arizona Steel Challenge Championship PCCO & RFPO - Mind in the Box
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ธ.ค. 2024
- Hello Steel Shooters,
Are you ready for part 9 of 10, Steel Challenge Stage SC-104, Outer Limits at the 2023 Arizona State Steel Challenge Match.
Outer Limits, the only stage in Steel Challenge where the shooter has to move during the string. Having to move & reset can create opportunities for misses & longer transitions times. Currently shoot this one 2-1 / move 3-4-S.
With PCCO - started off great and then maintain good times during the first three strings, so tried to push the final string and had some misses.
With RFPO - started with a few misses, but managed to keep the times low enough to hit GM for the stage.
With RFRO - didn't get a recording, but also finished with a GM time.
Thanks for being part of the journey, hope to see you at the range soon.
Equipment:
Pistol is Volquartsen Black Mamba, @TrijiconInc SRO 5 MOA
PCC is JP Enterprises JP-5, C-More 12 MOA Optic, Smoke Composites
RFRO not shown - Magnum Research Switchbolt, TG2000 Trigger, C-More 8 MOA dot, Wiland USA chassis.
Prescott puts on a great Steel challenge match. That was my second trophy match,I was very surprised on how well I did. Are range in Lake Havasu City Arizona puts on a steel challenge match on the second Sunday of the month. My wife and I really enjoyed watching the video you post, I do know they are a good learning and training tips. Thank you very much for sharing.
Hey Jon, didn't realize you and your wife shot the Arizona match. You shot a solid match with both rifle and pistol, but RFRO was great, every stage you shot at least your ranking with really consistent times - congrats! Thanks watching the videos & appreciate the comment Jon. Hoping to make it back to the Arizona area & shoot the Lake Havasu match when I do - see you at the range soon!
Hey Karlos the movement in outer limits .what would be a good par time to set on my shot timer? I set up the rope lines 6 feet apart and practice the movement. The transition on practice is the time between shot 2 and 3 assuming one shot on plates 1&2
Btw what do you when not making steel challenge videos?
Hey Jack - To be Honest, I never Dry Fire Practice Outer Limits, Don't have the room. My main form of training for outer limits is strange... I do a lot of Peloton Bike riding, pretty much every other day for about an hour. I stand up on the bike and as I pedal I look at light switch on the wall about 8-10 yards away. As I move up and down, I keep the focus on the light switch, usually try to hold that focus for a couple minutes. That's my keep my focus on the target while moving practice, then move to the dot to the focus as soon as I step into the box. The key with outer limits - in my opinion - is not to look down as you move, be able to shoot as soon as you step in the box. Steve Foster said that you shouldn't keep your focus on the dot as you move, let it drop down slightly, then bring it back up as soon as your into the box. this prevents you from trying to keep a moving / bouncing dot in focus, instead bring the dot to your focus on the target... My target time, may not be yours... Goal for this year is to consistently get into the 10 second range... Therefore I would practice at 3 seconds to leave room for error.... Always create a margin for error in your training - if you want to shoot a 12-13 second OL stage, practice at 3.75-4 seconds.
Career Wise - I am have 25 plus years in the Information Technology Space - Cloud Infrastructure Expert. However since Mid- March I have been on the hunt for something new / pursuing a career in the firearms industry; if I can make the right connections... Hard to replace my tech salary though... While I am on the hunt been spending a lot more time developing my training strategy.. World Speed Shoot & Arizona State Steel Challenge Championships were my first real tests... There is still a huge mental portion to manage beyond Dry Fire Training, however, the confidence boost from Dry Fire Practice is also huge. Peloton Bike / Workouts are must, Nature & outdoors - camping, hiking & mountain biking, Traveling when possible - beaches preferred. Other than that, keeping the wife happy.
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Thanks for the video Karlos. Question, I couldn't help but notice your low ready stance. In your opinion, does what I see here meet the requirement for low ready? I ask only because I get a lot of conflicting feedback on this. I look forward to your reply...
Short Answer - It looks passably good to me. If you watch this video from the World's Speed Shoot 2023, multiple RO's on each stage, you notice low ready from the third person camera point of view as the same height, as Arizona; but when it switches to first person, the rifle is where is needs to be: th-cam.com/video/rKw6R2LyYdQ/w-d-xo.html - start at the 3:58s mark.
-Long Answer - Had to watch the Arizona video to double check, from what I remember at this match, the low ready indicators were a bit low. The Rule book states, there will be an aiming point (marker, cone, flag,or sign) centered downrange directly in front of each shooting box 10’ away and a maximum of 2ft high. As a practiced shooter, I practice / work on setting up my low ready at the same height all the time, If the RO says its too high, then I will adjust downwards, but I setup at the same height as much as possible, usually that is within basketball sized area on top of the 2 foot indicator. In this video, based on the amount of movement up and down it seems that I didn't have a lot of lift and therefore was too high at low ready; but it's hard to tell from a zoomed in camera / and the angle. Again based on the video linked above in this comment with the first person point of views, the low ready position meets the rules expectations. However, it's up the RO to determine where they believe low ready as they are in charge of the stage.
Great question - Low Ready is hard to get right, as it varies by a person height, I'm 5.8", so I don't have to tilt as much as someone that is 6'2" or taller. My approach is to be as consistent as possible with low ready every time, I focus on practicing this with dryfire, achieving the exact same low ready position for every stage. If the RO says it's too high, then I adjust a bit lower. Thank them for helping me get better, and roll with it. As a GM shooter those few inches don't really add anytime to my strings, but I also don't want to move more than I have too.
Now let's get to the range to ring some steel! Cheers Karlos
Thank you Karlos, great feedback. Just bested a local match overall with my PCCO. Had a couple of GMs!
Hey - now that’s a way to get your mind the in the Box Bill ! Congrats .. have we shot together before ? At the MS state in Nov ?
Yes we did, I could not get into any kind of rhythm and did not do well at all. Really looking forward to Talladega and the Alabama State and World shoots coming up.😁 @@mindinbox
Your times are way faster than me, but I’m going to offer some constructive criticism anyway. Your first step with your right foot is a tiny little step, if you take a full or even half step, your your third step will be more towards the center of the center box allowing you to get your left foot in the box also. Looks like your left foot ends up on top of your right for the last shots.
Hey - Thanks for the note - always great to meet new folks via TH-cam. Great Catch! I did need just a larger step but not so much as you think. I actually practice ending up with the left foot on the box, right foot right inside the box because its the minimum amount of movement that is needed - save every milli-second on the movement as possible. There where a couple of folks that stood sideways for outer limits, left shoulder facing the stage, body rotated, left foot on the right side of the box, right foot back so they can make the right foot first step larger, they ended up right in the middle, just like you stated. I like living on the edge for this one though. Thanks for the comment! KBA.