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So he was ok with showing private pictures of other people, but freaks out when people try to figure out his real name? Him losing his job at 49 is karma.
Funny how people get squirrelly when they get served with the same kind of activity and foolishness they have been doling out. Like the "pranker" who was pretending to attack a family and is now pushing up daisies. Sad he is no more, but maybe that will inform so others to rethink their "fun". Violentwhatever he was rethought his.
The fact that he modded r/picsofdeadbabies like. I've been on the internet since before 9/11. It's hard to shock me. But the fact that those subreddits even existed blows my mind. Maybe because I spent a lot of time on 4chan as a kid, and that website has a lot of stigma but I don't remember their ever being a board called cp. Meanwhile reddit really doesn't have any stigma.
Im so heartbroken for Chad Amato. He truly loved his son. If my son took my retirement money and wasted it on some girl he didnt even know I would probably stop talking to him forever. Yet Chad let him stay AND took him on a trip to Japan FOR FREE. Then protects his son when he does it AGAIN. And his big reward is his family getting brutally murdered in their home by the very person he just basically saved. Rest in peace man. You did all you could.
Here’s the thing tho, sometimes it isn’t about doing what will make your child the happiest, it’s about doing what’s best for them. And holding those we love accountable is HARD.
Yeah and if he called the police and sent him to jail nothing would have changed. In fact he probably would have been worse getting out of prison since its likely some rapists would have converted him into their line of thinking about women
I can’t believe that man felt minors being dox and harassed were “meaningless things” but when it happens to him it’s “boohoo I lost my job feel bad for me”
I don't understand the people who acknowledge the existence of narcissists/sociopaths/psychopaths, and yet keep asking the basic questions they supposedly should already know the answer for
The victim card is almost universal among sex offenders and child abusers. Then they all defend each other. Anyone that stands up for them is almost always a sex offender/child abuser too, maybe just not caught yet.
My heart aches for Jason Amato. I can’t imagine the amount of pain he felt learning his entire family was killed all by his younger brother all over a porn and Internet addiction.
Feel like there was a LOT more going on there than just addiction. I've known addicts to be thieves at best but out of the many ive helped or encountered none of them were violent. Yikes. Not saying they don't exist but to do this? This is insane!
@Milkshake Guru one of the most damaging addictions a man can fall into is to become addicted to the attention of a predatory women who continually asks for money.
I love how he talked about joining the military like he was some philosophical badass, but then was discharged partially for “entry level performance issues” aka he could not make it through basic 😂
Not trying to hard enough in any part of his life is what I got from it. Brody gave half ass result and wanted everything including woman but couldn’t get it so instead he’s gonna kill people lol how tf do these people exist shot crazy
i’m sorry the runescape stalker’s defence attorneys claiming he “wasn’t there to harm her” after he sent her a detailed description of him r*ping and m*rdering her is laughably insane.
That's the thing that sucks about having to defend scum. There's not much of a defense, so you pretty much gotta make up some random bs with weak reasoning.
He should have been thrown in prison for life. I can't believe he wasn't arrested before that time, but I suppose the blame lies in the judicial system of Estonia.
The last one with Grant is so sad, heartbreaking, and such a huge act of betrayal to his family. His father did everything he could to help his son only for him to repay his lack of severe consequences with a gun. Maybe they had a rough relationship, each family has it's own hardships, but the fact that his father didn't report him, tried to get him the help he needed, and allowed him to stay in the house well beyond what was owed to him just to be killed by the very person he was trying to help irks me so damn much. Not to mention his brother and mother being killed too. Absolutely abhorrent.
Yo I haven't made that far in the video yet but I'm browsing the comments as I watch. I had a super tough relationship with my father tho...lol he pulled a gun on me a couple of times( granted I was F***Ed up and deserved it) but....I just....like these people wavy talking about. .. yo I've been to prison and back, and quite successful given my ups and downs......but even as educated as I am ( yes I'm also 38 and have several degrees) I just can't wrap my head around how.....how these people think..... Yo they wake up EVERY DAY ( oh the 3rd part is in and omfg) and think this s**t is ok.... Btw I am a literal FloridaMan (yeah I done stupid stuff).......but...I just don't understand it.
@@ImJustSaijan I know right? Like I'm a degenerate fuckface who has pretty much wasted all of his potential in life and yet even I can't fathom these guys.
Just remember that the version of this family dynamic you are hearing is based solely in the prosecution of his trial, so a story told by someone trying to convince people he’s a bad person. I’ve met plenty of parents that have been described the way his were, they are not as altruistic as you’d assume. There’s also quite a lot that we do in life that isn’t a direct result to our upbringing, but his actions, from the entitlement to steal hundreds of thousands to attending a fake “rehab” for rich kids to escape court punishments, to having an indepth behavioral contract, those aren’t normal things that happen to people not raised by parents like his. Like this is NOT saying they deserved anything, it’s not about that, but even when being told in this hyper-favorable light they sounded like really shitty people
Like you said “didn’t report, got him help, allowed him to stay” i know rich people who do this, it’s not out of love, those are all forms of covering it up because either he’s implicated in financial situations that would be unearthed by an investigation or his reputation in the community would be tarnished, he doesn’t want to to get out to his golf buddies or his boss, or employees. It’s almost always some twisted selfishness behind these acts of seeming care
@@HarringtonsApocy Yea that's really strange take tbh. The guy was a piece of shit i hope he gets the chair tbh. Who cares why they did it they sacrificed everything for their family. He spent their life savings on a fucking cam girl and they still let him live with them. He stole money from every member of his family and eventually murdered them all probably so he could get a video of some Bulgarian girls but hole out of it. They put him in rehab and let him stay after doing all these terrible things. They even gave him a phone and all they wanted was for him to stop his addiction and get a job. They were beyond patient and he sounds like a spoiled brat. How entitled do you have to be to think oh poor him. Shit you should meet my family. Absolute trash who would toss me in a garbage can and not think twice. He didn't deserve those people he deserves death. He tried to frame his own fucking brother for murder.
1. tells her multiply times that he will kidnap, torture, rape and murder her 2. after months of this he shows up at her house 3. back in the car he has kidnap and torture tools 4. justic system says because he didn't had the bag on him at the time he never intented to actually kidnap and torture her 5. because there is no way he was scouting out the location or making two trips in any way
To be fair, It’s unlikely that the defence attorney (or anyone else) actually believed that defence, it’s just the duty of a defence attorney to argue for his client however they can. Even if their client is obviously guilty, every plaintiff has the right to a defence, & that defence has to pose *some* kind of argument.
The irony of telling a girl "you're not worth it" and proceeds to squeeze every ounce of your will to pull off a back flip straight to jail if just as golden as that face massager.
I don’t usually support doxing, but in violentacrez definitely did. His “harmless trolling” probably ruined the lively hood of many young girls. He said he like “pushing buttons”, but his pushing of buttons likely caused traumatizing experiences for all the young girls and women he “trolled”. He got what was coming.
Some of my pictures from childhood were actually stolen and edited so I looked younger and thinner. I think people were trying to catfish him. The fucked up part? They found out I was 18, graduated high school in 2010 and left me alone.....had I been younger I would have gotten doxxed too.
Riddle me this one, cupcake. Is it more inappropriate to date a 17 year old with the maturity of a 24 year old or a 24 year old with the maturity of a 17 year old? The issue may not be as black and white as you assume.
Really ironic that violentacrez and his fans were mad that his real name was revealed and that he “didn’t deserve to have his life ruined” when they all reveled in posting photos of teenage girls and women’s faces and bodies in exploitative and disgusting ways, which lead to those girls and women being harassed en mass. I have zero sympathy for him, and I’m disgusted at the Reddit founders defending and conspiring with him at the expense of those poor girl/ women
The creep got what he deserves. "Freedom of Speech", sure, buddy. You aren't exempt from consequences though. I hope he is still suffering from those consequences to this day.
he’s scum and deserves anything he receives from his actions… heinous acts under the guise of shockbait are still heinous acts lmao, i do not care if it’s just trolling. it goes to show how fucked in the head some people are and these poor girls and children.
also how ironic how they did all these horrible things in the name of free speech SO LONG as they were able to remain anonymous. like why will you defend posting photos of girls and women online so adamantly but not in person? it's almost like they knew very well what they were doing was wrong and used the relative novelty of the internet to still do so and get away with it.
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The amount of times that police just ignore a stalker until they turn violent is just absurd. I wish they’d take that crime more seriously, it’s horrible how many people have died from stalkers even after reporting them to police repeatedly.
A lot of them don't want to do the paperwork. I've had a few times reporting of a previous stalker and they refused even to fill out the report (where I lived you needed 2 or 3 on the record cases in order to file a restraining order)
@@error404webpagenotfound I can tell by your looks that you live a wonderful life now. When you're ugly, nothing changes, you still get bullied with nobody caring, especially when the aggressors are ALWAYS prettier.
One of the most heartbreaking things an elder parent can say is, "I guess I’m not retiring as early as expected." Man, that father and that family really loved their son and brother, only for him to destroy their credit and eventually kill them over a fantasy. I’m sorry but that Grant guy is absolutely pathetic!
That's really the worst part: They doomed themselves by loving him. "I don't want him to go to jail." Fateful words. Amato, Chandler Halderson, and Chris Watts -- all cut from the same fkn turd. They can't get it bad enough in prison but unfortunately they probably aren't.
At what point does loving become enabling? Just keep pushing this behavior under the rug, it will go away if we just don't deal with it. "Everything is fine".
@@TheSuspira I don't think they were really enabling him. They sent him to therapy. They set expectations for him and when he didn't comply they kicked him out. It isn't enabling, it's called having compassion for your god damn kid. Because most people with problems like addiction and other mental illnesses need help. They need compassion, patience, and understanding. I am not defending what Grant did because at the end of the day it is still disgusting, but it's tiring when people see parents care for their kid and call it "enabling". We wouldn't have gave the same care for Grant because we weren't his dad. Blood is stronger than water (not thicker bc I think that's false)
Yeah that story is the main reason why I wont open my home to anyone else. I also only have one credit card for a reason. Maybe Im just a paranoid person but I hang on to my debit card at all costs in my wallet where it belongs
I love how free speech advocates seem to think that posting photos of unsuspecting victims falls under that. It doesn't. Free speech. SPEECH! Not "freedom to take pictures of people without them knowing and posting them without their knowledge."
Also, Internet users seem to forget that free speech doesn't apply to websites. Social media sites banning you doesn't mean your rights were being violated. They can make whatever TOS they want
@rasmuskock8077 ikr! I'm HR for a certain home improvement retailer that was recently involved in a lawsuit because someone had to be fired for writing political stuff about Black Lives Matter all over their uniform. We have a clear SOP that I explain to all new hires that says you can put whatever you want on your apron AS LONG AS it's not political, religious, or sexual/covered in swears. And I have to explain that it's NOT that we don't believe in Black Lives Matter, if we had an official stance it would be that, but at our core values we believe in free speech. And if we believe in free speech then I also have to allow the idiot at every company to put ALL lives matter on their apron. Because free speech isn't free if it's only free for some. THEN I explain that also, we're a private company and we can make whatever rules we want for what goes on in our own company so if we want that apron to be replaced with glittery nipple pasties and a thong, then we can, and you would literally have to wear it. It makes the new hires laugh envisioning that but it puts it in perspective for them and is an easy way for them to fully understand the why behind that particular policy.
The last story left me teary eyed. Grants family gave him so many chances to change, and he repaid them with murder. If his father had called the police on his son, he and his family might still be alive today. The fact that his love for his son resulted in his death really upsets me.
The dude continues to screw up, stealing from his Work and his family and his family's great idea is to reward him with a free vacation to Japan. I'm sorry they were way too soft on him. Of course Grant's Family didn't deserve to be murdered, but they definitely had a hand in their own demise.
Sometimes you have to let your relatives go to jail because they might take you not turning them in as permission to keep doing what you were threatening to call the police over.
it's so fucked up, he platformed an opportunity for hundreds of ADULT MEN to harass and ruin lives of kids, who probably were scared and scarred for years, but he only felt remorseful and afraid when the consequences were about to come back to bite his ass, what a pathetic excuse of a human
Grant was EASILY the worst one, dude was given second, third, and fourth chances, NONE of which he deserved. His family treated him with kindness and he repayed them with bullets. Unreal
@@desmondgrant4126A phrenologist was hired by the detectives and according to the strange shaped head he might be not liable for his actions due having this mutated head since birth...
@@nicholasfredro6217 oh no he definitely isnt "not liable due to mutation" bro he murdered his loved ones for no reason at all even when they trusted him to change. if people think he can get away with it just cause his head has a dent then ig they want a murderer roaming around in society
It always cracks me up how all these guys are always strong and powerful when the identity isn't known, but when it's revealed they feel attacked and play victim. Dude! Your a 49 year old grown ass adult! You knew what you were doing, you knew they were underage and still supplied it, you got what you deserve
Grant was so incredibly lucky to have supportive parents who only wanted him to overcome his addiction and didn’t even press charges. He stole a quarter of a million dollars from then and they were kind enough to get him help and repaid them by slaughtering them with no remorse. What a disgusting man, he deserves nothing but a miserable life in prison for the rest of his existence.
I legit want to cry. Reminds me so much of my parents. I have messed up academically numerous times in life and my parents have been constantly supportive. I'm only now getting my undergrad degree at age 25 (I'll get it at 26). I hope I manage to survive it too because I have cancer as well. It's so unfair how their life turned out, having a son like me. :(
@@BonJoviBeatlesLedZepdo not feel as if you are a burden though yes circumstances could be better but you atleast putting in the effort now rather than later (also stay strong and beat cancers ass!)
Life in prison? No. There is nothing to redeem here, no one should have to pay for this p.o.s. to live a single day, let alone a lifetime. Only one answer for that kinda insanity and derangement.
@silentj624 so.. someone being imprisoned for 50 years is better? At the cost of other innocent people who didn't even know they were in a prison? No answer is a good one. Our jails and prisons are full, our peoples suffer, and very few even care. Let alone attempt any sort of fix. When you have a better answer, then you can preach at me from your high horse, until then, our meager opinions matter not. Especially to those who actually make decisions.
For the "Reddit's Most Infamous Troll", it's hilarious how he was so desperate not to have his true identity and private information leak but was silent about the teenage girls who was constantly doxxed and harassed because of his shitty subreddits lmaooo. Karmic justice
Exactly my thoughts! People like him have no problem invading people's privacy but when theirs is even at threat of the same, only then are they remorseful. He doesn't regret doing it, he regrets the consequences.
No relation to any stories here, but I was strung out and I got right when my mama pulled her pistol lmao just saying Btw I'm sober now Still funny but real
The guy setting creeps on children crying about his life being ruined as if those girls aren't going to live with horrible trauma. I feel bad for his wife, but what an evil man.
The idea that the runescape stalker was harmless is ridiculous. Looks to me like a horrible crime was fortunately prevented. I really hope this guy is monitored and receives treatment when he gets released.
Idk what he brought that "gold thing" for but in Asia it is actually sold as a facial massager. I think the incel was just so broke they couldn't get the real toys...what a creep.
@@tomlxyz seems his dad paid for the trip. He was there on legit business and his son probably went with him under the guise of wanting to spend time with the dad.
Imagine being that mom in the first one. Being threatened like that from your own kid and then finding out he was just about to do a mass shooting. Thank god he was stopped before he went through with his sick twisted plan
Even his own mum didn't want anything to do with him lol! He's truly FOREVER ALONE hahahaha! The Ultimate Incel who's own mum even thought he was unbearable! Gonna be crazy if WavyWebSurf is right & he gets out with little prison time. That's like the making of a comic book villain.
@Breakneck Seriously, if that were my kid I'd hope with money that he gets stuck a lot, real bad that first day in prison. Hopefully he stays locked up or gets hit by a semi truck as he walks out of prison
@@ClickClack_Bam this is such a sad reading of the situation… his mom did care about him, that’s why she reported him after he threatened her. There is so many stories with parents either helping their kids after they commit crimes, like that teen who killed a girl and his mom cleaned his bloodstained clothes, or they ignore the warning signs. The fact that this guy had a mom that knew she needed to stop her son was a sign of the attention she had for him
That Tres dude really got taken down in the most embarrassing way, literally got caught because he got into an argument with his mom and locked himself in his room like a child
@@yourdad5799Um…. Okay you might wanna keep that to yourself? Like that shouldn’t be a possibility in a normal well adjusted adult, so you’re kinda signalling that you ain’t that.
@@yourdad5799 don't worry, you would have to already have a major screw loose to do anything these people did, on top of giving in to your mental instability. If you think you're capable of stuff like this in any circumstance.. I honestly suggest you get help.
@@Karlswebb Being "well adjusted" is not in our control if we had traumas from childhood, but this person clearly tries hard to get there and that's all theyre saying. Nothing wrong with that
There really needs to be more laws to hold stalkers accountable. It's too common a story (and a number I've heard from victims themselves) of people (usually men to women) legit sending clear disturbing and unwanted communications to others. If her dad wasn't there who knows how the RuneScape starlker would have done. Even with everything he said nothing could be done until he basically was a step away from pulling it off. Honestly makes me terrified to ever have daughters and then having access to the internet.
The idea that the stalker often needs to cause some sort of physical harm or a near miss like in this situation to have the issue taken seriously is terrifying. Also I feel like restraining orders do not necessarily impede someone like this from acting out in the future. When he is released from prison, I can't see him actually leaving her alone. Especially given that he more than likely feels that he did nothing wrong and she ruined his life by getting LE involved when he showed up.
Problem is that for every genuine cause for concern there’s 20 over zealous if not out right delusional women who could be outright destroythe social life and ability to travel freely of innocent men . We want to be able to protect and prevent these kind of incidents as a society, but the implications of allowing a full on order without due process restraining the rights of a citizen granted by the constitution solely based on the claims of a sole individual is the exact kind of overreaching law we have always made an attempt to steer clear from . Now matter how well intended it’s justification is. A citizen who remains aligned with the sentiments expressed by our countries founders make it clear freedom will take precedent over security forever in the American heart , the day this is no longer the case is a good time to recognize USA has lost its way. Factoring in the amount of legal processes started as a means of settling a vendetta by women , who are weaponizing the legal system,purposefully with the full Intent of having their male victim taken into custody and charged in within the legal system for serious crimes l, there you have yourself quite a recipe for disaster on your hands and many men guilty of nothing but crossing the wrong women behind bars increasing the population in our over saturated prison system.
Thank God for Trey's mother not being too weak to call the police on her own son. It's something that not a lot of people would be capable of doing knowing the gravity of the situation. She stopped a lot of people from dying that day
Yeah but umm...I think being held at the gunpoint would make anyone dial 911 real quick... Even if not to arrest him, at least diffuse the situation...I don't see it as weakness, but rather as fight or flight.
For dudes like him, if he couldn't have a girl to have sex with, couldn't he have thought of being 🏳️🌈? I wouldnt recommend it, I'm a Christian that thinks homosexuality is a sin, but he could have tried it once he would probably not complain about it
@@jewelfoxgaming873 You'd be wrong, when I was younger I was basically forced by my mother to hangout with a kid from my class. This kid was a incredibly violent schizophrenic with bipolar disorder. His mother sadly was in denial saying he would be getting better on his own and is bestter off without medication and adult supervision. The bigger little shit came very close to killing me in his room while we counted out halloween candy. Even after that the mother was still in denial about her effed up kid and her enabling of his bs.
@@jewelfoxgaming873love is blinding, and a mother doesn’t want to believe their child could truly harm someone. There is a good deal of willpower involved in calling in the law on your family. When you’ve spent 2+ decades raising a kid you don’t wanna be part of the reason they’re gonna get sent to prison, even if that part is as small as calling the police and telling them what he did.
The word incel takes away all accountability from the man. They are not involuntarily celibate, they are celibate because of their own actions or lack there of. And in some cases just being shitty people.
Grant blew through his dad's entire 200k life savings in about 4 months. The fact that the dad didn't literally beat him to death with a frying pan upon finding this out shows he was some kind of a saint. RIP😢
@@anthonyhack1164 Honestly I agree. And change the locks afterwards. Stealing that much money shows zero respect for boundaries, zero respect for his family, zero respect for the law, zero respect at all period. That's a big boy crime that deserved big boy time.
I don’t think he or his wife were saints. They were enablers - who landed up on the bad end of what they had allowed to let their spoilt sons get away with on a continuous basis. All too often it is others who land up on the receiving end of bad parenting where there are no boundaries and too much money floating around without any responsibility.
I cannot imagine the horror the girl must've experienced once she heard the Runescape stalker was let go, knowing damn-well he is on his way, now mad, to her location.
@@Kris-wo4pj that would be the lawyers, not the cops. The cops just gathered the evidence, it’s up to the lawyers on what to do with it. You are putting the blame on the wrong group here buddy.
Unfortunately I mean most people are tried to a reasonable doubt. I would personally send his ass to jail for 10+ years but it’s hard to send people to jail for a crime they didn’t commit yet. At least we can all breath a little easier knowing he was caught before anything more severe happened
And they're all like, "we send our condolences to the victim's family," for the police statement. As if for the life of them, they just could not prevent the crime. At all.
It's crazy that the streamer mentioning the stalker from Estonia is this guy. She's a sweetheart but it sucks that this weirdo was making her life hell.
Hurting to watch as an Estonian very big shame for our country but you do have to consider that Estonian laws are different and often you can't charge someone like that because our Constitution doesn't allow mentally incompetent people to be punished
Psh you absolutely can. There's just a non-zero chance that he'll then do something horrendous. Yeah unfortunately that's reality and it's fucking disgusting; but so if your logic. "This Runescape guy was a predator therefore"... well whatever that sentence ends with is completely illogical. Is he a perfect example of a piece of shit? Yes. Are a disturbing number of guys able to do awful shit if rejected? Yes. But they are not related in a correlated way.
@@TheSolongsidekickthere is a huge chance that he’ll do something if we say no. Will he kill or stalk us? Probably not. However harassment almost always happens. We get asked why we say no, or told that we are playing hard to get. It’s treated like a game. Almost every single guy. Most men can’t just hear “no” and WALK AWAY. You don’t know what you’re talking about bro
This is part of why the internet is dangerous. People take 1 in 1 million edge cases and then turn it into something your average person needs to be afraid of. People have a negativity bias so they only see and remember negative outcomes, and on top of that usually don't understand how statistics work.
@idiomasentusiasticos7954 you're either 14 years old or chronically online. How are you going to say almost every single man is a rapist and then tell someone else they don't know what they're talking about?
@@adityabhardwaj875Yep, and ultimately it cost them their lives. They should have disowned him on the spot, but the truth is nobody wants to disown their family member, sometimes though there's a fine line between love and stupidity.
He did. In the full video of their conversation Jason tells Grant he barely feels safe around him after Grant tries to deny what happened. He told him how much his parents tried to help him and could’ve put him in jail for theft. Jason unfortunately knew and still hugged his brother despite that
@@LordBingus1 I think he was just trying to get him to confess. Even when your family does horrible things you can still care about them. I can’t imagine how he felt in that moment but I hope he can heal from this. What a horrible situation.
Some of them try but it's never enough. For example short men can never improve themselves as you cannot gain height like you lose weight or gain mass, so they get ostracized and forced into alienation, the only option is s*, but sometimes their echochamber might make them do terrible things before it
@@HenriqueRJchikiplenty of "short" men have good personalities, get married, and are normal and well adjusted. Those males youa re describing have low self esteem and mental illness, they should get therapy but instead they blame everything on everyone else.
@@philipsmi-lenguyen8155they literally get leniency and honor from the incels. It is in this video. Normal people hate them for it but there are plenty of crazy people who worship them for it. Eliott rodgr is literally the incels jesus. They are so pathetic it boggles my mind.
They call it “trolling” because the term makes it sound more harmless then it actually is, thus making smooth-brains on the internet believe the person doing said acts aren’t actual pieces of shit. It’s like when TH-cam pranksters harassed random people on the street then claimed it was a “social experiment” to avoid accountability, or someone murdering someone else then claiming it was done in “self-defense” Those “trolls” on Reddit call those acts “trolling” or “free speech”
As long as the patriarchy thinks that "boys will be boys", then it won't be taken seriously. I mean, no one was physically hurt, right? It was just "locker room talk", right? ***facepalm***
Exactly! A grown man who promotes "jailbate" or as we should call it "child sexual abuse material” (CSAM) to properly convey that sexualized material depicting or otherwise representing children is indeed a representation, and a form, of child sexual abuse. He should dig himself into a deep deep hole. Pedo enabler - disgusting! His actions & demands have nothing to do with trolling.
I was once doxxed by one of these groups when I was 14, they posted my face, posted photos of me and my sister talking about how hot she is (note that both of us were underage in that photo and my sister currently has a fiance and a kid), and made me generally uncomfortable
I sadly can relate in a way, I came across photos of myself underage online and that shit fucking hits you hard. The internet is a scary place and people forget too often that this is as real as the day to day world, actions here have consequences. I just hope nothing too bad happened to you both.
On the Violent Acres section- As a disabled and married woman.. I'd rather live in a cardboard box under a bridge in a place that gets all seasons (think harsh winters) and ignore my medical needs than have a husband that supported me by violating young girls. I have no sympathy for that man because his actions are simply disgusting. 🤢
@@LewdMama That isn't even a good attempt at twisting things to fit w/e your agenda is so I don't have anything sensible enough to reply to. Feel free to try again, if you like. 😄
That runescape stalker story made me nearly hurl. I'm very glad that poor woman wasn't hurt and her father was amazing for helping protect her. I hope she is living a good life and can still enjoy the games she likes without worry of people like Keo, but I can understand if she still has some worry while playing. My heart goes out to her and her family who had to deal with this disgustingly violent man.
Im subscribed to her channel, and I remember she made a video about it. The thing that wasn't mentioned in the video is that the stalker paid her friends money to find her address.
My 78-year old granny is online playing games and watching cat and cooking videos all day long. I visit her often and yet, in spite of my concerns, she has yet to stock, doxx, or kill anyone as a result.
It's insane to me that even now people think that trolling is posting someone's nudes w/o consent and facilitating a place for posting said nudes is ok. Like even for the time period that shit wasn't ok and I hope all the girls that were posted on that subreddit are doing well now.
lots of ‘trolls’ to me seem to have a lack of social decency and common sense and don’t know how to interact healthily with their peers and deflect by claiming it’s a joke
Trolling should be where you're simply messing around for the sake of it Posting pics of underage kids for others to lust over isn't trolling, it's being a pedophile and it's really warped some people can't seem to tell that difference
I see it from a different angle. Girls deprive us of the heavenly bliss of their bodies and affection no matter how hard we try to act normal, then they blame it all on us when we end up chronically single. Letting us have pictures of them to enjoy in private and not making a big deal of people sharing creep shots would be the least they could do, but apparently even that’s too much to ask. Heck, even if the female community would just start donating dirty panties to those of us in need, anything. But you know those women, they’d get uncomfortable and offended by even the idea of anything like that. Such is female nature, always committed to being as unhelpful as they possibly can.
Violentacres life was ruined?? Oh, poor baby. That's what you get for victimizing others, not just "riling people up" about "meaningless" things. What a disgusting creep!
I staunchly defend internet privacy, but every time I started feeling sorry for Michael Brusch, I had to remember that he was literally targeting children. Trolling is one thing, sending thousands of people off to stalk and harass kids is more than trolling.
Trolls are under a bridge for a reason...no one want those filthy things...and he still begged for sympathy 😒 Gotta feel bad for the kids, having such a sh*tty dad...and there's no telling how much the mom knew or not...
43:43 Man that honestly makes the story so much sadder. Hearing about how understanding and caring his father was and he just k!lled him. Great video bit sad though
the fact that this guy had a considerate/caring father who showed alot of sympathy/care for his son makes me angry/sad at the same time. i know that i would've liked it if my father was like him (in the emotional sense) and seeing him take it for granted to fuel his addiction makes me sad :(
After he killed his family - he wiped his dads finger prints and accessed the bank account to give him money. He then went to a Publix (grocery store) sat in his car and called Silvie like nothing happened. Forensics also indicated that his dad was crawling moments before dying. I always wondered if he said anything to him. This guy had gone nuts
Wavy said it perfectly about jailbait guy. Not really any sympathy for a dude that created a space where teens had their images exploited and then got harassed and mocked, having his life wrecked.
I was going to say the same thing and the fright I g thing is - just like the creeps that get busted in TCAP - they are mostly “normal” guys - family men - wives kids and mortgages. I know he was trying to save face and we only see part of the interview - but the “I just like pushing buttons…it’s a game.” Was upsetting To hear. Like come on - you knew what you were doing. I wonder what ever happened to him and his wife
He's lucky worse didn't happen to him after he was exposed. He should be thankful every day one of those young girls' parents or siblings decided not to go after him.
@@CypressDahlia I'm pretty sure some did hence his vanish/banishment. Last thing you want is a legal case and your personal info on display as well because the mob will cheer for your blood.
@@CypressDahlia I'm generalizing. I do not support these human scum in any way with their exploitive and horrendous activities. I was referring to that most times in serious legal cases like these where you are placed in public crosshairs for behavior like this: most lawyers will tell you get off/stay off social media and keep silent about your case, judgements etc.
Grant does not deserve a family like that. So many kids growing up in horrific situations and he actually had a awesome family and he just kicked them in the butt.
Grant is an incel because he’s the offspring of an awesome family, he was raised to be nice, and the women like thugs in reality, so he is the result of a big fat lie.
He was scared to have his identity released but okay with all of the little girls getting doxxed by his followers. He can take a long walk off of a short bridge. Just pathetic.
Imagine being Michael's wife and finding out he was running online pages involving things like beating women, taking creep shots of little girls, etc etc You married and had kids with a man who you put your trust in fully and you learn he's making forums about harming women and sexualizing children How do you feel safe being in the same *house* as someone like that? Let alone allowing your *kids* around him? Man that woman must have gone through so much when she found out just what he'd been doing and saying online
Grant's poor father... All of that love and support, only for Grant to steal everything he had worked for and then murder him, his mother, and brother all in cold blood. Glad Grant's in prison. It's where he belongs. Also, great video as always!
You think maybe Grant felt guilty for ruining his father's life with addiction and felt so bad that he'd have to work the rest of his life and had to remortgage the house that he just wanted to put his father out of his misery and punished himself forever for his actions?
I remember Violentacrez from the older days on Reddit. He didn't stay confined to his heinous subreddits - used to see him all over the place on regular, mainstream subs too. That guy was a complete waste of life and I couldn't help but feel happy when it all blew up in his face. "Creep" doesn't even begin to describe him.
I really think the primary symptom of being terminally online (outside of the crazies who go out and attack people) is that they are so insulated in their little bubbles that they have no idea how serious what they're doing is. They can't think outside of themselves and just don't believe what they're doing is actually serious... until it hits THEM. Then suddenly it's world shattering.
He looks crazy eating on camera. Most celebrities won't let themselves be filmed eating as it's a thing where EVERYBODY looks really stupid when they eat. It sends an unconscious message to people of "ugliness". Go watch how pissed celebs get if you come up to them when they're eating filming them.
@@ClickClack_Bam uh. I think celebrities get mad when you film them when eating more has to do with the "filming them when they're out in public just trying to Be A Person" thing, and not the fact that they're like- eating. It's probably worse than filming them on the street where they can leave the location easier- you can't just walk out of a restaurant. Would YOU be happy if some stranger just- walked up to you, filming you, while you were eating?
It's insane when someone tries to report a stalker & LE tells u that even though ur terrified the person is going to hurt u badly(or worse), if they haven't done anything to u yet, u pretty much have to wait until they actually do for LE to help. This happens all over the country, way too often!!
What do you suggest they do? Go and arrest the citizen based off the claims of a single Individuals claims? It’s not that they aren’t believed they’re just tied by the law they have to follow and you cannot go and arrest a citizen because another citizen says they’re following them. Thats not even necessarily breaking the law. You Guys act like the police are incompetent and don’t care but through what legal means do they have to take action? Yea it’s still a good thing we can’t be arrested simply off the claims of one person. That would Be a horrible policy weaponized by vindictive vile citizens every day. They do it right now already as everyones aware.
I think when a guy emails her that he wants to kidnap rape torture and murder her it actually is against the law that’s a threat. The police were incompetent taking his word against hers that all of those illegal threats on her life and body were “just a joke”
The fact that the r/jailbait subreddit was being praised, rewarded and even defended by the co-founder and general managers is very mind boggling to me...
it is pretty weird to me how they defended it, but then again the only thing i can think of as to why they "defended" it was the reasons they mentioned that the troll was helping reddit alot and they didn't want their site to lose the whole "free speech" message that they had (which thanks to this troll, no longer exists on reddit :/ )
The story of Grant Amato is so sad. His father was so kind and loving and just wanted his son to get better and grow up. He tried all he could to care for his son and get him on the right path even when it wasn't the easy option. And what did he get in return? A bullet to the head. How sick and unempathetic do you have to be to have that much love and affection from someone who genuinely cares for you and still believe that they deserve to die? It really goes to show that sometimes, it doesn't matter how good of a parent you are, your child could still end up a terrible person and none of it will be your fault.
At the very least, the sick bastard will never see the outside of prison again. I'd have raged if they went with life with parole. Scum like him do not deserve a chance to be amongst society again.
An extra gross fact that gets revealed in the full interrogation (you can find online) is the fact that after he killed his parents and brother Cody, he stole Cody’s credit card and drove to a strip mall to get wifi access. And what did he do? Bought more tokens for that cam girl. Disgusting.
"better himself"... funny how for women that always means: draw clear boundaries, remove him from you life etc. While for men it means: "take better care of her, be better for her".
it pisses me off that he dismisses his predatory actions as being 'meaningless' and just 'pissing people off' like, you're not relentlessly poking someone until they explode, you're encouraging people to take unsolicited pictures of minors and put them on the internet in a sexual context that's a fucking felony
I am probably considered terminally online because I rarely leave the house due to disability and the internet is how I interact with the world. I stay out of fandom drama and really don’t talk or interact with many people except some good friends and having surface level conversations in certain groups. I spend most of my time reading, watching TH-cam videos on random topics, and going on strange deep dives and learning sprees for things I’ll never need and will never do.
Dude, you’re harmless. I mean you don’t plan a mass shooting, and you ain’t the Runescape guy. I hope you grow as a human and learn new things, even if your disability makes it hard for you to get out of the house.
Hope i can make myself understandable ( im from Denmark 🇩🇰 ) Im the same… I could have written what you wrote I have a TBI (traumatic brain injury ) because i have had a brain tumour 2 strokes and 4 aneurysm. I have cptsd and i also have the diagnosis dissociative identity disorder. Before my craniotomy, tumour,strokes, I was one person,today another… … totally opposites … But one thing watching dark things a whole other thing is doing dark things . Like me…. Love watching you tube serial killer films… me being a killer… I couldn’t kill a fly
I'm in the same boat. I was once a bit more terminally online though, got pretty deep into fandom drama and social media echo chambers. It's like, I didn't realize how far gone I actually was until I had to step back a while during a mental health incident. It still took me a few years after that to start seriously weaning myself off social media, but I'm doing loads better now. I gotta say though, I was never dangerous like the dudes in the video, I was just miserable on a personal level.
@@Naixatloz fandom drama can get fuvking mental. And it’s hardly spoken about compared to TH-camr drama, etc. I suppose because it’s more niche? But damn, shits wild!
@@Krea57 sounds like you’ve had a hell of a run. Stay strong 💪 You’re definitely a warrior. I know just how hard it is when your whole life changes and you can’t do the things you used to, never mind plan for the future. It can mess you up and leave you in a dark place, but I agree, I could never even think of doing these things to hurt others. I don’t even like killing grasshoppers that eat my plants!
It reminds me of a guy that was covered on this channel that looked up how to knife fight, and how much time he would get for his (at the time) planned crime.
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@@frankculaga5169 Yeah. But remember, she was just doing her job. Grant Amato had a paradoxical relationship with her, which is a one way relationship. I don’t blame the cam girl because she had no real involvement with him spending his money, just doing her job.
@@frankculaga5169 All she’s doing is just business. She could get money from literally anybody else. This is all on Grant. He should’ve stopped before things got worse for him.
@@MrVideo540 "Yeah. But remember, she was just doing her job". During World War 2 the SS officers in Nazi Germany were just doing their job. They had orders under their superiors. Otherwise they got executed. See? Their excuse is better than hers.
Something you left out of the grant amato story is his other brother forgiving him for all he had done. He was given so many chances to change and never did. And even though he committed a very heinous act, his brother was there after the interrogation
I don’t feel bad for Michael in any sense of the term. He can cry all he wants about having his life ruined for “riling people up over meaningless things”, but that’s completely meaningless when he was actively providing a safe space for predators and allowing underage girls to be victimized. No amount of talking around his actions can undo the damage caused to these girls.
I wouldn't even consider him a troll. He was just a straight up predator. Not sure what asking for only underage girls and creepy pics is troll like behavior.
Except incels aren’t trolls. They mean every word they say. They find humor in sexually harassing people as a coping mechanism, a la “It’S jUsT a JoKe LoL gEt TrIgGeReD wHoRe”
That's one of the most frustrating interrogation videos I've ever seen. The lead is basically reduced to "cmon, I'll be your best friend!". Imagine trying to appeal with Jesus and "what's right" to a guy who just killed his whole family over a cam girl.
Whats insane to me is when Jason walks into the interrogation room, face to face with the man who just murdered his entire family, and gives him a hug. Like, what the fuck? That thing is not your brother anymore dude.
People are saying it's because of youtube rules but I've seen this term in news articles and news reports too. He's using it because it's genuinely popping up everywhere It's absolutely insane that this is in use at all. Point it out whenever you see it. Do people look at a boy and think "that's an underage man"? No. Women are adults only. Adults are not underage. People keep trying to make girls seem more adult even when they're not aware of it. Don't use that term. edit - And no one's "getting a strike" for using a correct term. There are entire transcripts of absolutely creepy things he reads out in this video and censors just a little. Whoever wants to die on this hill is sus.
i had to pause for a second when he mentioned how Grant Amado's dad said, “im gonna have to work a few more years than i would have, but it’s okay, i don’t want him going to jail.” some people would do anything to have a father that loved them enough to help them in this desperate time of need and to think Grant decided to kill them all instead. It makes me want to cry
My brother was a drud addict. My parents repeatedly let him live in the house despite his stealing and violent threats. I was the "good" kid and was constantly stressed and afraid. I could have ended up loke poor Cody . Parents need to protect their family despite the heartbreak they are going through!!
the disconnect between michael (violentarcez) and his actions is crazy. the fact that he can say the article ruined HIS life without acknowledging that he's ruined so many childrens lives is beyond me
Ill never stop being bewildered by lawyers who have to defend clearly guilty people, especially ones like this. Its gotta be hard and fuck with the mental
The rehab center let him out of the program after 2 weeks? That's so ridiculous. Being clean from ANY addiction for only two weeks is good progress, and I don't want to downplay how important that is for someone with an addiction, but 2 weeks does NOT make you rehabilitated.
Thats insane. It takes between 60 to 90 days just to get rid of a habit. So I dont see how any kind of progress can have been made in two weeks regarding substance abuse and addiction.
@@anthonyhack1164 Or his behavior was so egregious that the staff booted him out the door and he lied about progressing so fast so his family wouldn't be suspicious.
5 years. I tried my best to see other cases and it would take, at least (according to someone who browsed 2 sites and has no idea what im talking about) 5 years to complete rehab.
The last story is crazy, he had stolen $200,000 which is a crazy amount and his family decided to take him to Japan on a trip to get away from the internet and experience nature. That is awesome and I would only dream of being able to do that just normally. Can't believe bro threw all that away for some girl
Grant, while in Japan with his brother and their buddy, stole his buddy's credit card to buy tokens to speak to the cam girl. Even on the trip he was stealing to feed his addiction.
reddit troll his logic was so twisted and disturbed like he was okay with showing pic's of young kids (which isnt okay while also revealing there full names and address) but once he was caught out and shown he tried to act like he needed a shield. Though in this case seems rat got ratted out and got his own karma for sure.
He's so gross🤢 all he cared about was himself "its affected me, its affected my family" like boo hoo and I supposed to be sad for you, little bitch baby, you gonna cry about how you ruining childens lives ruined yours? Go cry about it creep
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Hey, did I mishear you or did you actually say that the Reddit stalker was autistically committed??
So he was ok with showing private pictures of other people, but freaks out when people try to figure out his real name? Him losing his job at 49 is karma.
Lmao yeah, I don't he learned his lesson tho,people like him don't change
He definitely don't like the taste of his own disgusting medicine
That & ya think he'd be cool w/ his children's pics online?
Funny how people get squirrelly when they get served with the same kind of activity and foolishness they have been doling out. Like the "pranker" who was pretending to attack a family and is now pushing up daisies. Sad he is no more, but maybe that will inform so others to rethink their "fun".
Violentwhatever he was rethought his.
The fact that he modded r/picsofdeadbabies like. I've been on the internet since before 9/11. It's hard to shock me. But the fact that those subreddits even existed blows my mind.
Maybe because I spent a lot of time on 4chan as a kid, and that website has a lot of stigma but I don't remember their ever being a board called cp.
Meanwhile reddit really doesn't have any stigma.
Im so heartbroken for Chad Amato. He truly loved his son. If my son took my retirement money and wasted it on some girl he didnt even know I would probably stop talking to him forever. Yet Chad let him stay AND took him on a trip to Japan FOR FREE. Then protects his son when he does it AGAIN. And his big reward is his family getting brutally murdered in their home by the very person he just basically saved.
Rest in peace man. You did all you could.
Here’s the thing tho, sometimes it isn’t about doing what will make your child the happiest, it’s about doing what’s best for them. And holding those we love accountable is HARD.
Yeah and if he called the police and sent him to jail nothing would have changed. In fact he probably would have been worse getting out of prison since its likely some rapists would have converted him into their line of thinking about women
His name was Chad for a reason.
Sounds like he enabled his sons behavior whether he knew it or not.
It's all the cam girl's fault. She shouldn't be charging him. She should work for free. Then this wouldn't of happened.
I'm online way too much but I pride myself on never killing anyone. I know I know, I'm amazing. Thank you, I appreciate you noticing.
As long as you’re not on 4chan I think it’s a compliment 😅
Congrats on the not killing thing
Yet*
Man, I wanna be just like you one day! It's pretty hard tho.
Thank you for not engaging in murder sprees. You’re an inspiration 🎉
Calling ViolentAcres and his followers “trolls” is way too generous. They were pedophiles and creeps
wow i was thinking the same thing
And he was a fucking Father on top of that, Christ.
So, the average trans person.
Fun fact, the current CEO of Reddit was *a mod of Jailbait*
@@VidelxSpopovichah I found the transphobe. I wonder what the actual ratio is between trans people considering such crimes and priests.
I can’t believe that man felt minors being dox and harassed were “meaningless things” but when it happens to him it’s “boohoo I lost my job feel bad for me”
I don't understand the people who acknowledge the existence of narcissists/sociopaths/psychopaths, and yet keep asking the basic questions they supposedly should already know the answer for
I can believe it.
People suck.
Narcissism
Yeah like if you can't take it then don't dish it out
The victim card is almost universal among sex offenders and child abusers. Then they all defend each other. Anyone that stands up for them is almost always a sex offender/child abuser too, maybe just not caught yet.
My heart aches for Jason Amato. I can’t imagine the amount of pain he felt learning his entire family was killed all by his younger brother all over a porn and Internet addiction.
I would've been catching decades in prison the second I walked into that interrogation room if I had been in his shoes.
Feel like there was a LOT more going on there than just addiction. I've known addicts to be thieves at best but out of the many ive helped or encountered none of them were violent. Yikes. Not saying they don't exist but to do this? This is insane!
@Milkshake Guru one of the most damaging addictions a man can fall into is to become addicted to the attention of a predatory women who continually asks for money.
@@mjanny6330 Incel smol dick energy. Miss me with that comment.
Grant was more than an addict. He was a narcissist, a chronic liar, and the most entitled, disgusting thing on earth.
The fact that Grant's father still wanted to better his son after everything he did, only to be murdered by him, is incredibly disheartening.
His Father and family didn't deserve what they got, but they enabled him to do what he did. It's what happens when you put feelings before logic.
literally crazy ahh story. only fans will produce more of him.
@@jimmyeddyUnfortunately you're correct
@@kimora69 If it wasn't camgirls it would have been something else.
Man was clearly mentally ill.
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I love how he talked about joining the military like he was some philosophical badass, but then was discharged partially for “entry level performance issues” aka he could not make it through basic 😂
A true beta Incel.
Not trying to hard enough in any part of his life is what I got from it. Brody gave half ass result and wanted everything including woman but couldn’t get it so instead he’s gonna kill people lol how tf do these people exist shot crazy
He got 6 YEARS in February 2024
@@marcuslee7868did you give your full effort in typing out that messsge? Cause my brain hurts
@@Jerry-Jardorc69 no. Actually I didn’t try at all obviously. It’s a TH-cam comment.
i’m sorry the runescape stalker’s defence attorneys claiming he “wasn’t there to harm her” after he sent her a detailed description of him r*ping and m*rdering her is laughably insane.
That's the thing that sucks about having to defend scum.
There's not much of a defense, so you pretty much gotta make up some random bs with weak reasoning.
And the judge that actually believed that bullshit??? Disgusting
i would hate to be his defence lawyer.
He should have been thrown in prison for life. I can't believe he wasn't arrested before that time, but I suppose the blame lies in the judicial system of Estonia.
He…he was just negging her!
The last one with Grant is so sad, heartbreaking, and such a huge act of betrayal to his family. His father did everything he could to help his son only for him to repay his lack of severe consequences with a gun. Maybe they had a rough relationship, each family has it's own hardships, but the fact that his father didn't report him, tried to get him the help he needed, and allowed him to stay in the house well beyond what was owed to him just to be killed by the very person he was trying to help irks me so damn much. Not to mention his brother and mother being killed too. Absolutely abhorrent.
Yo I haven't made that far in the video yet but I'm browsing the comments as I watch. I had a super tough relationship with my father tho...lol he pulled a gun on me a couple of times( granted I was F***Ed up and deserved it) but....I just....like these people wavy talking about. .. yo I've been to prison and back, and quite successful given my ups and downs......but even as educated as I am ( yes I'm also 38 and have several degrees) I just can't wrap my head around how.....how these people think.....
Yo they wake up EVERY DAY ( oh the 3rd part is in and omfg) and think this s**t is ok....
Btw I am a literal FloridaMan (yeah I done stupid stuff).......but...I just don't understand it.
@@ImJustSaijan I know right? Like I'm a degenerate fuckface who has pretty much wasted all of his potential in life and yet even I can't fathom these guys.
Just remember that the version of this family dynamic you are hearing is based solely in the prosecution of his trial, so a story told by someone trying to convince people he’s a bad person. I’ve met plenty of parents that have been described the way his were, they are not as altruistic as you’d assume. There’s also quite a lot that we do in life that isn’t a direct result to our upbringing, but his actions, from the entitlement to steal hundreds of thousands to attending a fake “rehab” for rich kids to escape court punishments, to having an indepth behavioral contract, those aren’t normal things that happen to people not raised by parents like his. Like this is NOT saying they deserved anything, it’s not about that, but even when being told in this hyper-favorable light they sounded like really shitty people
Like you said “didn’t report, got him help, allowed him to stay” i know rich people who do this, it’s not out of love, those are all forms of covering it up because either he’s implicated in financial situations that would be unearthed by an investigation or his reputation in the community would be tarnished, he doesn’t want to to get out to his golf buddies or his boss, or employees. It’s almost always some twisted selfishness behind these acts of seeming care
@@HarringtonsApocy Yea that's really strange take tbh. The guy was a piece of shit i hope he gets the chair tbh. Who cares why they did it they sacrificed everything for their family. He spent their life savings on a fucking cam girl and they still let him live with them. He stole money from every member of his family and eventually murdered them all probably so he could get a video of some Bulgarian girls but hole out of it. They put him in rehab and let him stay after doing all these terrible things. They even gave him a phone and all they wanted was for him to stop his addiction and get a job. They were beyond patient and he sounds like a spoiled brat. How entitled do you have to be to think oh poor him. Shit you should meet my family. Absolute trash who would toss me in a garbage can and not think twice. He didn't deserve those people he deserves death. He tried to frame his own fucking brother for murder.
1. tells her multiply times that he will kidnap, torture, rape and murder her
2. after months of this he shows up at her house
3. back in the car he has kidnap and torture tools
4. justic system says because he didn't had the bag on him at the time he never intented to actually kidnap and torture her
5. because there is no way he was scouting out the location or making two trips in any way
That's the Justice System for ya.
justice system my ass
If only the dad was able to hold him at gun point till police came
To be fair, It’s unlikely that the defence attorney (or anyone else) actually believed that defence, it’s just the duty of a defence attorney to argue for his client however they can. Even if their client is obviously guilty, every plaintiff has the right to a defence, & that defence has to pose *some* kind of argument.
UK justice system is a joke, and not a very good one…
The irony of telling a girl "you're not worth it" and proceeds to squeeze every ounce of your will to pull off a back flip straight to jail if just as golden as that face massager.
I don’t usually support doxing, but in violentacrez definitely did. His “harmless trolling” probably ruined the lively hood of many young girls. He said he like “pushing buttons”, but his pushing of buttons likely caused traumatizing experiences for all the young girls and women he “trolled”. He got what was coming.
i support it if it's used to catch predators
Some of my pictures from childhood were actually stolen and edited so I looked younger and thinner. I think people were trying to catfish him. The fucked up part? They found out I was 18, graduated high school in 2010 and left me alone.....had I been younger I would have gotten doxxed too.
There is NO such thing as "underage women" underage is a girl, a girl is a child. Let's stop calling children adult terms.
What a stupid comment. Underage is everything < 18. So 17 is underage, but not a child. Or is that a child to you?
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Shut up
Riddle me this one, cupcake.
Is it more inappropriate to date a 17 year old with the maturity of a 24 year old or a 24 year old with the maturity of a 17 year old? The issue may not be as black and white as you assume.
@@honkhonk5181 holy fuck, what is going on here
Really ironic that violentacrez and his fans were mad that his real name was revealed and that he “didn’t deserve to have his life ruined” when they all reveled in posting photos of teenage girls and women’s faces and bodies in exploitative and disgusting ways, which lead to those girls and women being harassed en mass. I have zero sympathy for him, and I’m disgusted at the Reddit founders defending and conspiring with him at the expense of those poor girl/ women
The creep got what he deserves. "Freedom of Speech", sure, buddy. You aren't exempt from consequences though. I hope he is still suffering from those consequences to this day.
I agree. Violentacrez and his fans are garbage. Pure garbage.
he’s scum and deserves anything he receives from his actions… heinous acts under the guise of shockbait are still heinous acts lmao, i do not care if it’s just trolling. it goes to show how fucked in the head some people are and these poor girls and children.
The cognitive dissonance is truly a sight to behold.
also how ironic how they did all these horrible things in the name of free speech SO LONG as they were able to remain anonymous. like why will you defend posting photos of girls and women online so adamantly but not in person? it's almost like they knew very well what they were doing was wrong and used the relative novelty of the internet to still do so and get away with it.
Someone saying sparying orange juice at random people was "empowering" is one of the most pathetic things I have ever heard.
I mean I cant blame him. He was tired of being ignored
@jamesgentry13 Get some help bud. Things get better. The public will ignore you until you improve yourself.
@@jamesgentry13can’t wait to see you in this guy’s next video.
@@jamesgentry13you are way entitled. No one owes you attention because your mommy didn’t love you enough.
Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Come to Jesus Christ today
Jesus Christ is only way to heaven
Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void
Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today
Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today
John 3:16-21
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
Mark 1.15
15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Hebrews 11:6
6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
Jesus
The amount of times that police just ignore a stalker until they turn violent is just absurd. I wish they’d take that crime more seriously, it’s horrible how many people have died from stalkers even after reporting them to police repeatedly.
A lot of them don't want to do the paperwork. I've had a few times reporting of a previous stalker and they refused even to fill out the report (where I lived you needed 2 or 3 on the record cases in order to file a restraining order)
@@randomtinypotatocriedSame, how did you deal with it? Did you report them to a higher up or did it die out on its own?
Just like everyone ignores bullying when the victim us uglier than their aggressors? Feels bad when the shoe is on the other foot doesn't it?
@@mariatelos oh and I forgot to add, no one helped me or took it seriously when I told a teacher, principal, or counselor about the bullying.
@@error404webpagenotfound I can tell by your looks that you live a wonderful life now. When you're ugly, nothing changes, you still get bullied with nobody caring, especially when the aggressors are ALWAYS prettier.
One of the most heartbreaking things an elder parent can say is, "I guess I’m not retiring as early as expected." Man, that father and that family really loved their son and brother, only for him to destroy their credit and eventually kill them over a fantasy. I’m sorry but that Grant guy is absolutely pathetic!
Yeah poor people. They were such good family members, it seems.
That's really the worst part: They doomed themselves by loving him. "I don't want him to go to jail." Fateful words.
Amato, Chandler Halderson, and Chris Watts -- all cut from the same fkn turd. They can't get it bad enough in prison but unfortunately they probably aren't.
At what point does loving become enabling? Just keep pushing this behavior under the rug, it will go away if we just don't deal with it. "Everything is fine".
@@TheSuspira I don't think they were really enabling him. They sent him to therapy. They set expectations for him and when he didn't comply they kicked him out. It isn't enabling, it's called having compassion for your god damn kid. Because most people with problems like addiction and other mental illnesses need help. They need compassion, patience, and understanding. I am not defending what Grant did because at the end of the day it is still disgusting, but it's tiring when people see parents care for their kid and call it "enabling". We wouldn't have gave the same care for Grant because we weren't his dad. Blood is stronger than water (not thicker bc I think that's false)
Yeah that story is the main reason why I wont open my home to anyone else. I also only have one credit card for a reason. Maybe Im just a paranoid person but I hang on to my debit card at all costs in my wallet where it belongs
I love how free speech advocates seem to think that posting photos of unsuspecting victims falls under that. It doesn't. Free speech. SPEECH! Not "freedom to take pictures of people without them knowing and posting them without their knowledge."
This. Cause a lot of people can't tell the difference between free speech, legal slander, harassment and TOS violation anymore
Also, Internet users seem to forget that free speech doesn't apply to websites. Social media sites banning you doesn't mean your rights were being violated. They can make whatever TOS they want
@rasmuskock8077 ikr! I'm HR for a certain home improvement retailer that was recently involved in a lawsuit because someone had to be fired for writing political stuff about Black Lives Matter all over their uniform. We have a clear SOP that I explain to all new hires that says you can put whatever you want on your apron AS LONG AS it's not political, religious, or sexual/covered in swears. And I have to explain that it's NOT that we don't believe in Black Lives Matter, if we had an official stance it would be that, but at our core values we believe in free speech. And if we believe in free speech then I also have to allow the idiot at every company to put ALL lives matter on their apron. Because free speech isn't free if it's only free for some. THEN I explain that also, we're a private company and we can make whatever rules we want for what goes on in our own company so if we want that apron to be replaced with glittery nipple pasties and a thong, then we can, and you would literally have to wear it. It makes the new hires laugh envisioning that but it puts it in perspective for them and is an easy way for them to fully understand the why behind that particular policy.
it actually does since media is scripture is speech, and we all are members of the media.
@@reesf743 and who decides what "harassment" is? of course ALL of what you listed is free speech.
The last story left me teary eyed. Grants family gave him so many chances to change, and he repaid them with murder. If his father had called the police on his son, he and his family might still be alive today. The fact that his love for his son resulted in his death really upsets me.
dude fr, his father was a good man , none of his family deserved that. if only if only is all we can say
Don't have kids, man. Damn...
The dude continues to screw up, stealing from his Work and his family and his family's great idea is to reward him with a free vacation to Japan. I'm sorry they were way too soft on him. Of course Grant's Family didn't deserve to be murdered, but they definitely had a hand in their own demise.
Wuss.
Sometimes you have to let your relatives go to jail because they might take you not turning them in as permission to keep doing what you were threatening to call the police over.
violent acres: please don’t ruin my life!!! :((
also violent acres: *is fine with ruining the lives of teenage girls*
"Yeah, but I was just doing that because I enjoy making people unhappy! It's not fair for someone to do something that _I_ don't like!"
I gave a platform for creeps but I didnt do nuffin
Fuck around, find out
it's so fucked up, he platformed an opportunity for hundreds of ADULT MEN to harass and ruin lives of kids, who probably were scared and scarred for years, but he only felt remorseful and afraid when the consequences were about to come back to bite his ass, what a pathetic excuse of a human
Fked up person, fked up logic.
Grant was EASILY the worst one, dude was given second, third, and fourth chances, NONE of which he deserved. His family treated him with kindness and he repayed them with bullets. Unreal
For sure 💯 so sad 😢
The Grant one made me so fucking pissed and angry. What an absolute fucking waste of a human being. Wow.
@@desmondgrant4126A phrenologist was hired by the detectives and according to the strange shaped head he might be not liable for his actions due having this mutated head since birth...
@@nicholasfredro6217 oh no he definitely isnt "not liable due to mutation" bro he murdered his loved ones for no reason at all even when they trusted him to change. if people think he can get away with it just cause his head has a dent then ig they want a murderer roaming around in society
@@RevenantNeverDies If you had to go around with that strange head. I don't think I would kill anybody just buy a hat to downplay the enormity of it.
It always cracks me up how all these guys are always strong and powerful when the identity isn't known, but when it's revealed they feel attacked and play victim. Dude! Your a 49 year old grown ass adult! You knew what you were doing, you knew they were underage and still supplied it, you got what you deserve
Grant was so incredibly lucky to have supportive parents who only wanted him to overcome his addiction and didn’t even press charges. He stole a quarter of a million dollars from then and they were kind enough to get him help and repaid them by slaughtering them with no remorse. What a disgusting man, he deserves nothing but a miserable life in prison for the rest of his existence.
I legit want to cry. Reminds me so much of my parents. I have messed up academically numerous times in life and my parents have been constantly supportive. I'm only now getting my undergrad degree at age 25 (I'll get it at 26). I hope I manage to survive it too because I have cancer as well. It's so unfair how their life turned out, having a son like me. :(
@@BonJoviBeatlesLedZepdo not feel as if you are a burden though yes circumstances could be better but you atleast putting in the effort now rather than later (also stay strong and beat cancers ass!)
Life in prison? No. There is nothing to redeem here, no one should have to pay for this p.o.s. to live a single day, let alone a lifetime. Only one answer for that kinda insanity and derangement.
@@hossdelgado626 the death penalty is a no. Innocent people are executed far too often.
@silentj624 so.. someone being imprisoned for 50 years is better? At the cost of other innocent people who didn't even know they were in a prison? No answer is a good one. Our jails and prisons are full, our peoples suffer, and very few even care. Let alone attempt any sort of fix. When you have a better answer, then you can preach at me from your high horse, until then, our meager opinions matter not. Especially to those who actually make decisions.
For the "Reddit's Most Infamous Troll", it's hilarious how he was so desperate not to have his true identity and private information leak but was silent about the teenage girls who was constantly doxxed and harassed because of his shitty subreddits lmaooo. Karmic justice
you nailed it!!!!
Exactly my thoughts!
People like him have no problem invading people's privacy but when theirs is even at threat of the same, only then are they remorseful.
He doesn't regret doing it, he regrets the consequences.
Could of absolutely messed with him with one simple question “how would you feel if your kids photos ended up on that sub Reddit?
He absolutely deserves his dox, and probably more.
He got off way too easy.... should've been fed through a woodchipper feet first.
Im so happy the mom said something. Good for her.
I feel so bad for her. Imagine raising, loving and taking care of a son, just for him to grow up and Hate women
@@lildafodil1577 and also wanting to become a mass murder 💀
Same, so much could’ve gone wrong if she wouldn’t have stopped it.
I’m Bobby mom 🥴
No relation to any stories here, but I was strung out and I got right when my mama pulled her pistol lmao just saying
Btw I'm sober now
Still funny but real
The guy setting creeps on children crying about his life being ruined as if those girls aren't going to live with horrible trauma. I feel bad for his wife, but what an evil man.
The idea that the runescape stalker was harmless is ridiculous. Looks to me like a horrible crime was fortunately prevented. I really hope this guy is monitored and receives treatment when he gets released.
Looks like the judge agreed with you.
Idk what he brought that "gold thing" for but in Asia it is actually sold as a facial massager. I think the incel was just so broke they couldn't get the real toys...what a creep.
@@SaintShion so broke but could afford the trip?
@@tomlxyz seems his dad paid for the trip. He was there on legit business and his son probably went with him under the guise of wanting to spend time with the dad.
@@tomlxyz his dad was on a business trip, meaning his work most likely paid for it.
Imagine being that mom in the first one. Being threatened like that from your own kid and then finding out he was just about to do a mass shooting. Thank god he was stopped before he went through with his sick twisted plan
Even his own mum didn't want anything to do with him lol!
He's truly FOREVER ALONE hahahaha!
The Ultimate Incel who's own mum even thought he was unbearable!
Gonna be crazy if WavyWebSurf is right & he gets out with little prison time. That's like the making of a comic book villain.
@Breakneck Seriously, if that were my kid I'd hope with money that he gets stuck a lot, real bad that first day in prison.
Hopefully he stays locked up or gets hit by a semi truck as he walks out of prison
That dude will be out on the streets in no time. “He was on our radar.”
@@ClickClack_Bam this is such a sad reading of the situation… his mom did care about him, that’s why she reported him after he threatened her. There is so many stories with parents either helping their kids after they commit crimes, like that teen who killed a girl and his mom cleaned his bloodstained clothes, or they ignore the warning signs. The fact that this guy had a mom that knew she needed to stop her son was a sign of the attention she had for him
@@ClickClack_Bambro your comments are leading me to think you’re fucking deranged and lack empathy lol
That Tres dude really got taken down in the most embarrassing way, literally got caught because he got into an argument with his mom and locked himself in his room like a child
Even his own mum didn't want anything to do with him.
He's the ultimate Incel.
He's an incel, that's exactly what I would expect from them.
He has the odd combination of a Babyface and dead eyes
Sometimes i feel like I'm a miserable loser, then i remember people like this exist and feel better realising I'll never be this deranged
For me it makes me work harder because this is what I could become if I give up
@@yourdad5799Um…. Okay you might wanna keep that to yourself? Like that shouldn’t be a possibility in a normal well adjusted adult, so you’re kinda signalling that you ain’t that.
@@Karlswebb You just haven't expirienced a real low point in life. Of course I wouldn't fall that far but I could get close and that's unaccebtable.
@@yourdad5799 don't worry, you would have to already have a major screw loose to do anything these people did, on top of giving in to your mental instability. If you think you're capable of stuff like this in any circumstance.. I honestly suggest you get help.
@@Karlswebb Being "well adjusted" is not in our control if we had traumas from childhood, but this person clearly tries hard to get there and that's all theyre saying. Nothing wrong with that
There really needs to be more laws to hold stalkers accountable. It's too common a story (and a number I've heard from victims themselves) of people (usually men to women) legit sending clear disturbing and unwanted communications to others.
If her dad wasn't there who knows how the RuneScape starlker would have done. Even with everything he said nothing could be done until he basically was a step away from pulling it off.
Honestly makes me terrified to ever have daughters and then having access to the internet.
The idea that the stalker often needs to cause some sort of physical harm or a near miss like in this situation to have the issue taken seriously is terrifying. Also I feel like restraining orders do not necessarily impede someone like this from acting out in the future. When he is released from prison, I can't see him actually leaving her alone. Especially given that he more than likely feels that he did nothing wrong and she ruined his life by getting LE involved when he showed up.
You should see how stalking in handled in Japan and South Korea. 😒
@@definitelynotanAIchatbot how is it handled there?
@@v1nabby It's not. The cops don't give a shit.
Problem is that for every genuine cause for concern there’s 20 over zealous if not out right delusional women who could be outright destroythe social life and ability to travel freely of innocent men .
We want to be able to protect and prevent these kind of incidents as a society, but the implications of allowing a full on order without due process restraining the rights of a citizen granted by the constitution solely based on the claims of a sole individual is the exact kind of overreaching law we have always made an attempt to steer clear from . Now matter how well intended it’s justification is. A citizen who remains aligned with the sentiments expressed by our countries founders make it clear freedom will take precedent over security forever in the American heart , the day this is no longer the case is a good time to recognize USA has lost its way.
Factoring in the amount of legal processes started as a means of settling a vendetta by women , who are weaponizing the legal system,purposefully with the full
Intent of having their male victim taken into custody and charged in within the legal system for serious crimes l, there you have yourself quite a recipe for disaster on your hands and many men guilty of nothing but crossing the wrong women behind bars increasing the population in our over saturated prison system.
Thank God for Trey's mother not being too weak to call the police on her own son. It's something that not a lot of people would be capable of doing knowing the gravity of the situation. She stopped a lot of people from dying that day
Yeah but umm...I think being held at the gunpoint would make anyone dial 911 real quick...
Even if not to arrest him, at least diffuse the situation...I don't see it as weakness, but rather as fight or flight.
For dudes like him, if he couldn't have a girl to have sex with, couldn't he have thought of being 🏳️🌈? I wouldnt recommend it, I'm a Christian that thinks homosexuality is a sin, but he could have tried it once he would probably not complain about it
@@jewelfoxgaming873 You'd be wrong, when I was younger I was basically forced by my mother to hangout with a kid from my class. This kid was a incredibly violent schizophrenic with bipolar disorder. His mother sadly was in denial saying he would be getting better on his own and is bestter off without medication and adult supervision. The bigger little shit came very close to killing me in his room while we counted out halloween candy. Even after that the mother was still in denial about her effed up kid and her enabling of his bs.
@@jewelfoxgaming873love is blinding, and a mother doesn’t want to believe their child could truly harm someone. There is a good deal of willpower involved in calling in the law on your family. When you’ve spent 2+ decades raising a kid you don’t wanna be part of the reason they’re gonna get sent to prison, even if that part is as small as calling the police and telling them what he did.
The word incel takes away all accountability from the man. They are not involuntarily celibate, they are celibate because of their own actions or lack there of. And in some cases just being shitty people.
very true
In most cases it seems to be their personalities. Some of these dudes aren't bad looking, they're just horrible people.
they coined the term for that reason
That's messed up.
I used to identify as incel, and now I realize I'm just a loser.
Protecting jailbait was such a wild hill for Reddit to die on
The Grant Amato case hurts. His father was so patient, so nurturing. If I was Grant's dad I'd disown him on the spot.
Grant blew through his dad's entire 200k life savings in about 4 months. The fact that the dad didn't literally beat him to death with a frying pan upon finding this out shows he was some kind of a saint. RIP😢
@@emmagatewood3898I'm thinking the father should have beaten the dude's ass and had him arrested on the spot.
@@anthonyhack1164 Honestly I agree. And change the locks afterwards. Stealing that much money shows zero respect for boundaries, zero respect for his family, zero respect for the law, zero respect at all period. That's a big boy crime that deserved big boy time.
@@emmagatewood3898The fact that he tried to frame his brother too, it speaks volumes about his character.
I don’t think he or his wife were saints. They were enablers - who landed up on the bad end of what they had allowed to let their spoilt sons get away with on a continuous basis. All too often it is others who land up on the receiving end of bad parenting where there are no boundaries and too much money floating around without any responsibility.
I cannot imagine the horror the girl must've experienced once she heard the Runescape stalker was let go, knowing damn-well he is on his way, now mad, to her location.
I'm absolutely BAFFLED by the defense *"Well, he didn't have his kidnapping kit ON him!"* What the fuck kind of defense is that? And it WORKED?!
Probably something to do with intent and how they couldnt prove it since he didn't have it on him.
Maybe he was saving that a special occasion. You never know when the Mafia needs you to get rid of someone for them.
Jhe probably did have it on him and just throw it on the floor of the car when he started hiding in it. So the cops like always are morons.
@@Kris-wo4pj that would be the lawyers, not the cops. The cops just gathered the evidence, it’s up to the lawyers on what to do with it. You are putting the blame on the wrong group here buddy.
Unfortunately I mean most people are tried to a reasonable doubt. I would personally send his ass to jail for 10+ years but it’s hard to send people to jail for a crime they didn’t commit yet. At least we can all breath a little easier knowing he was caught before anything more severe happened
Story 2 is so scary. Basically just waiting until he kills her before the police will do anything to help the victim.
unfortunately that’s how it usually goes, they don’t care until it’s too late
Because of cops not doing shit, many serial killers got away with killing more people.
And they're all like, "we send our condolences to the victim's family," for the police statement.
As if for the life of them, they just could not prevent the crime. At all.
It's crazy that the streamer mentioning the stalker from Estonia is this guy. She's a sweetheart but it sucks that this weirdo was making her life hell.
Hurting to watch as an Estonian very big shame for our country but you do have to consider that Estonian laws are different and often you can't charge someone like that because our Constitution doesn't allow mentally incompetent people to be punished
The entirety of The RuneScape Stalker exists (11:10) and yet we're constantly told "you can just say no" when a man tries to flirt
Psh you absolutely can. There's just a non-zero chance that he'll then do something horrendous. Yeah unfortunately that's reality and it's fucking disgusting; but so if your logic. "This Runescape guy was a predator therefore"... well whatever that sentence ends with is completely illogical. Is he a perfect example of a piece of shit? Yes. Are a disturbing number of guys able to do awful shit if rejected? Yes. But they are not related in a correlated way.
@@TheSolongsidekickthere is a huge chance that he’ll do something if we say no. Will he kill or stalk us? Probably not. However harassment almost always happens. We get asked why we say no, or told that we are playing hard to get. It’s treated like a game. Almost every single guy. Most men can’t just hear “no” and WALK AWAY.
You don’t know what you’re talking about bro
@@idiomasentusiasticos7954 orly?!? Is this coming from the guy who literally can't even read English?
This is part of why the internet is dangerous. People take 1 in 1 million edge cases and then turn it into something your average person needs to be afraid of. People have a negativity bias so they only see and remember negative outcomes, and on top of that usually don't understand how statistics work.
@idiomasentusiasticos7954 you're either 14 years old or chronically online. How are you going to say almost every single man is a rapist and then tell someone else they don't know what they're talking about?
Grant had SUCH a supportive family. What a waste.
He is the ultimate loser. Like king of the losers he could be a normal person but he decided not to. Unlike many he decided to be a loser
Total loser. That guy really angers me.
Unfortunately that’s what happens when you choose to not punish that kind of harmful behaviour
@@adityabhardwaj875Yep, and ultimately it cost them their lives. They should have disowned him on the spot, but the truth is nobody wants to disown their family member, sometimes though there's a fine line between love and stupidity.
I know people who wish they had such a supportive family
Seeing Amato's brother hug him in that interrogation room made me tear up. He had no idea what his own blood did to his family.
He did.
In the full video of their conversation Jason tells Grant he barely feels safe around him after Grant tries to deny what happened. He told him how much his parents tried to help him and could’ve put him in jail for theft.
Jason unfortunately knew and still hugged his brother despite that
@@LordBingus1 that's even sadder what
@@LordBingus1 I can't imagine what Jason was feeling/thinking after leaving that room with Grant
@@LordBingus1 I think he was just trying to get him to confess. Even when your family does horrible things you can still care about them. I can’t imagine how he felt in that moment but I hope he can heal from this. What a horrible situation.
He knew he killed them, he asked him because he knew. He even told him he couldn't trust him to be around him anymore but he would always love him.
crazy how the incels blame others rather than improving themselves to just be someone who someone can trust and love
Reddit
Cringe
Some of them try but it's never enough. For example short men can never improve themselves as you cannot gain height like you lose weight or gain mass, so they get ostracized and forced into alienation, the only option is s*, but sometimes their echochamber might make them do terrible things before it
Them and the Feminists deserve each other tbh. Both groups are miserable and desperately need to get laid, LOL.
@@HenriqueRJchikiplenty of "short" men have good personalities, get married, and are normal and well adjusted. Those males youa re describing have low self esteem and mental illness, they should get therapy but instead they blame everything on everyone else.
the amount of leniency, sometimes even honor, these men get for doing shit is astounding
...who the fuck is getting honor from this shit
I think it's the other way round mate. Men don't get no leniency at all usually coz we are supposed to man up n take it in as they say.
They’re white men. If it was a woman she’d go to jail for life.
@@philipsmi-lenguyen8155they literally get leniency and honor from the incels. It is in this video. Normal people hate them for it but there are plenty of crazy people who worship them for it. Eliott rodgr is literally the incels jesus. They are so pathetic it boggles my mind.
@@philipsmi-lenguyen8155 I think he meant online. Ppl create fanbases and worship ppl like this
People severely need to learn that things like harassment, stalking, posting pictures of minors and upskirt shots and more are not """trolling"""
They call it “trolling” because the term makes it sound more harmless then it actually is, thus making smooth-brains on the internet believe the person doing said acts aren’t actual pieces of shit.
It’s like when TH-cam pranksters harassed random people on the street then claimed it was a “social experiment” to avoid accountability, or someone murdering someone else then claiming it was done in “self-defense”
Those “trolls” on Reddit call those acts “trolling” or “free speech”
As long as the patriarchy thinks that "boys will be boys", then it won't be taken seriously. I mean, no one was physically hurt, right? It was just "locker room talk", right? ***facepalm***
Exactly!
A grown man who promotes "jailbate" or as we should call it "child sexual abuse material” (CSAM) to properly convey that sexualized material depicting or otherwise representing children is indeed a representation, and a form, of child sexual abuse.
He should dig himself into a deep deep hole. Pedo enabler - disgusting! His actions & demands have nothing to do with trolling.
@@YochevedDesigns tf are you on about ‘patriarchy’ - some of the biggest defenders of criminals and predators are their mothers.
@@YochevedDesigns hurr durr patriachy!!
I was once doxxed by one of these groups when I was 14, they posted my face, posted photos of me and my sister talking about how hot she is (note that both of us were underage in that photo and my sister currently has a fiance and a kid), and made me generally uncomfortable
Doing stuff like that should be punished with 10+ years. This is serious but still overlooked
I'm so sorry
Cool JTHM pfp
@@cowhatcat8158 but it's been happening for a long time. I know several people that has happened to, myself included.
I sadly can relate in a way, I came across photos of myself underage online and that shit fucking hits you hard. The internet is a scary place and people forget too often that this is as real as the day to day world, actions here have consequences. I just hope nothing too bad happened to you both.
On the Violent Acres section- As a disabled and married woman.. I'd rather live in a cardboard box under a bridge in a place that gets all seasons (think harsh winters) and ignore my medical needs than have a husband that supported me by violating young girls. I have no sympathy for that man because his actions are simply disgusting. 🤢
Oh, no, he had an actual job. He was just doing that for fun.
@@eyesofthecervino3366 I don't have the time stamp but somewhere it made reference to him using that as an excuse.
How did this guy even have the time?! Working and taking care of his wife?? Omg disgusting!
I love how he said everything he did was meaningless even though it resulted in children being doxxed and harassed by pêdös
@@LewdMama That isn't even a good attempt at twisting things to fit w/e your agenda is so I don't have anything sensible enough to reply to. Feel free to try again, if you like. 😄
That runescape stalker story made me nearly hurl. I'm very glad that poor woman wasn't hurt and her father was amazing for helping protect her. I hope she is living a good life and can still enjoy the games she likes without worry of people like Keo, but I can understand if she still has some worry while playing. My heart goes out to her and her family who had to deal with this disgustingly violent man.
Im subscribed to her channel, and I remember she made a video about it. The thing that wasn't mentioned in the video is that the stalker paid her friends money to find her address.
Being stalked is a frightening experience that leaves a person feeling terrorized and powerless
Sometimes its actually the stalked doing the stalking. You'd be surprised.
@@caseystrange
Says the most confusing line and refuses to elaborate
@@jewelfoxgaming873 read up on stalking cases.
Only if they are average looking
It really does, bc the police are almost useless until the stalker makes a move. Ladies, carry a pewpew 🔫 they aren't just for hunters
My 78-year old granny is online playing games and watching cat and cooking videos all day long.
I visit her often and yet, in spite of my concerns, she has yet to stock, doxx, or kill anyone as a result.
Give her time.
We all started with cat videos
It's insane to me that even now people think that trolling is posting someone's nudes w/o consent and facilitating a place for posting said nudes is ok.
Like even for the time period that shit wasn't ok and I hope all the girls that were posted on that subreddit are doing well now.
Just like me fr
lots of ‘trolls’ to me seem to have a lack of social decency and common sense and don’t know how to interact healthily with their peers and deflect by claiming it’s a joke
Trolling should be where you're simply messing around for the sake of it
Posting pics of underage kids for others to lust over isn't trolling, it's being a pedophile and it's really warped some people can't seem to tell that difference
I see it from a different angle.
Girls deprive us of the heavenly bliss of their bodies and affection no matter how hard we try to act normal, then they blame it all on us when we end up chronically single. Letting us have pictures of them to enjoy in private and not making a big deal of people sharing creep shots would be the least they could do, but apparently even that’s too much to ask.
Heck, even if the female community would just start donating dirty panties to those of us in need, anything.
But you know those women, they’d get uncomfortable and offended by even the idea of anything like that. Such is female nature, always committed to being as unhelpful as they possibly can.
And the fact that they felt persecuted when they got outed for it
Violentacres life was ruined?? Oh, poor baby. That's what you get for victimizing others, not just "riling people up" about "meaningless" things. What a disgusting creep!
I staunchly defend internet privacy, but every time I started feeling sorry for Michael Brusch, I had to remember that he was literally targeting children. Trolling is one thing, sending thousands of people off to stalk and harass kids is more than trolling.
Trolling's harmless and just for a good laugh. What he did is definitely not that.
he is not a troll, he's a monster, and he felt he was the victim smh
Trolls are under a bridge for a reason...no one want those filthy things...and he still begged for sympathy 😒
Gotta feel bad for the kids, having such a sh*tty dad...and there's no telling how much the mom knew or not...
43:43 Man that honestly makes the story so much sadder. Hearing about how understanding and caring his father was and he just k!lled him. Great video bit sad though
Yeah, they literally gave him so many chances out of unconditional love and concern and that spoiled brat still killed them
the fact that this guy had a considerate/caring father who showed alot of sympathy/care for his son makes me angry/sad at the same time.
i know that i would've liked it if my father was like him (in the emotional sense) and seeing him take it for granted to fuel his addiction makes me sad :(
So many of us don't even have the privilege of having great fathers and he just k!llied his without a second thought.
After he killed his family - he wiped his dads finger prints and accessed the bank account to give him money. He then went to a Publix (grocery store) sat in his car and called Silvie like nothing happened.
Forensics also indicated that his dad was crawling moments before dying. I always wondered if he said anything to him. This guy had gone nuts
Wavy said it perfectly about jailbait guy. Not really any sympathy for a dude that created a space where teens had their images exploited and then got harassed and mocked, having his life wrecked.
I was going to say the same thing and the fright I g thing is - just like the creeps that get busted in TCAP - they are mostly “normal” guys - family men - wives kids and mortgages.
I know he was trying to save face and we only see part of the interview - but the “I just like pushing buttons…it’s a game.” Was upsetting To hear. Like come on - you knew what you were doing.
I wonder what ever happened to him and his wife
He's lucky worse didn't happen to him after he was exposed. He should be thankful every day one of those young girls' parents or siblings decided not to go after him.
@@CypressDahlia I'm pretty sure some did hence his vanish/banishment. Last thing you want is a legal case and your personal info on display as well because the mob will cheer for your blood.
@@evankimori your choice of words is very interesting
@@CypressDahlia I'm generalizing. I do not support these human scum in any way with their exploitive and horrendous activities. I was referring to that most times in serious legal cases like these where you are placed in public crosshairs for behavior like this: most lawyers will tell you get off/stay off social media and keep silent about your case, judgements etc.
Grant does not deserve a family like that. So many kids growing up in horrific situations and he actually had a awesome family and he just kicked them in the butt.
Grant is an incel because he’s the offspring of an awesome family, he was raised to be nice, and the women like thugs in reality, so he is the result of a big fat lie.
He was scared to have his identity released but okay with all of the little girls getting doxxed by his followers. He can take a long walk off of a short bridge. Just pathetic.
i spent the first 10 minutes thinking "WHERE IS TREY'S MOTHER?" and then bam - she saved possibly _dozens_ of lives that day. what a fantastic ending
She's in my freezer. Her head, at least.
Where is his dad?
@@yggdrasil2 left propably
@@yggdrasil2 Not everyone has a dad
He was an adult
Imagine being Michael's wife and finding out he was running online pages involving things like beating women, taking creep shots of little girls, etc etc
You married and had kids with a man who you put your trust in fully and you learn he's making forums about harming women and sexualizing children
How do you feel safe being in the same *house* as someone like that? Let alone allowing your *kids* around him?
Man that woman must have gone through so much when she found out just what he'd been doing and saying online
You know his wife had an account and participated in his subs right?
@@davidabest7195 I hadn't heard that... Source?
Not disagreeing, just curious.
@@davidabest7195 proof?
@@davidabest7195 This is so backhanded yk damn well...
Any reasonable woman would be wet from his actions and desire him. Such a GIgaChad
I'll never get over how these creeps have to tell you directly everything that they are.
I always thought you people say that true predators are so sneaky.
@@Man.Well93 Well you prove us wrong manwell
Grant's poor father... All of that love and support, only for Grant to steal everything he had worked for and then murder him, his mother, and brother all in cold blood. Glad Grant's in prison. It's where he belongs.
Also, great video as always!
It's terrible how he manipulated his family into robbing them blind & then he murdered them.
He belongs in a hole🎉
@mango_portal2women said that? Ok 😂😂
You think maybe Grant felt guilty for ruining his father's life with addiction and felt so bad that he'd have to work the rest of his life and had to remortgage the house that he just wanted to put his father out of his misery and punished himself forever for his actions?
@@kindauncool based on his interrogation, no, not at all. I doubt he has even that much sense of remorse and guilt.
I remember Violentacrez from the older days on Reddit. He didn't stay confined to his heinous subreddits - used to see him all over the place on regular, mainstream subs too. That guy was a complete waste of life and I couldn't help but feel happy when it all blew up in his face. "Creep" doesn't even begin to describe him.
Imagine that, spending years getting people riled up and mad at you on the internet, and then being surprised when people hate you for it!
I really think the primary symptom of being terminally online (outside of the crazies who go out and attack people) is that they are so insulated in their little bubbles that they have no idea how serious what they're doing is. They can't think outside of themselves and just don't believe what they're doing is actually serious... until it hits THEM. Then suddenly it's world shattering.
Takes a confident man to eat those types of food in an off-white overgarment. Respect, Wavy.
He looks crazy eating on camera.
Most celebrities won't let themselves be filmed eating as it's a thing where EVERYBODY looks really stupid when they eat. It sends an unconscious message to people of "ugliness".
Go watch how pissed celebs get if you come up to them when they're eating filming them.
@@ClickClack_Bam I don't think so...
@@ClickClack_Bam no one gives a shit about how people look when they eat, if you do you're a child. simple
@@ClickClack_Bam uh. I think celebrities get mad when you film them when eating more has to do with the "filming them when they're out in public just trying to Be A Person" thing, and not the fact that they're like- eating. It's probably worse than filming them on the street where they can leave the location easier- you can't just walk out of a restaurant.
Would YOU be happy if some stranger just- walked up to you, filming you, while you were eating?
@@ClickClack_Bam Dude, are you OK?
It brings me such unwavering joy and happiness that these people got caught after feeling invulnerable
Yeah, that was pretty satisfying
It's insane when someone tries to report a stalker & LE tells u that even though ur terrified the person is going to hurt u badly(or worse), if they haven't done anything to u yet, u pretty much have to wait until they actually do for LE to help. This happens all over the country, way too often!!
What do you suggest they do? Go and arrest the citizen based off the claims of a single
Individuals claims? It’s not that they aren’t believed they’re just tied by the law they have to follow and you cannot go and arrest a citizen because another citizen says they’re following them. Thats not even necessarily breaking the law.
You Guys act like the police are incompetent and don’t care but through what legal means do they have to take action?
Yea it’s still a good thing we can’t be arrested simply off the claims of one person. That would
Be a horrible policy weaponized by vindictive vile citizens every day. They do it right now already as everyones aware.
I think when a guy emails her that he wants to kidnap rape torture and murder her it actually is against the law that’s a threat. The police were incompetent taking his word against hers that all of those illegal threats on her life and body were “just a joke”
Cops: "Sorry, Ma'am, we can't do anything until after you're dead."
Hate against women online is a serious issue.
@New_World_Order.666 Ha ha ha get help loser
@New_World_Order.666Bros gonna end up on this channel 💀
@New_World_Order.666ince troll detected: opinions rejected 🤭
@New_World_Order.666cringe
@New_World_Order.666Another 15 year old with shit tier bait I saw back in 2012. Get funny, a life, or both.
Congrats to Tres' mom for being more affective than the FBI or any given Police Department at preventing mass murder.
The fact that the r/jailbait subreddit was being praised, rewarded and even defended by the co-founder and general managers is very mind boggling to me...
CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY ❤❤❤
I would not be surprised if the co-founder was into it.
u/maxwellhill, it's not surprising given who they probably worked with
it is pretty weird to me how they defended it, but then again the only thing i can think of as to why they "defended" it was the reasons they mentioned that the troll was helping reddit alot and they didn't want their site to lose the whole "free speech" message that they had (which thanks to this troll, no longer exists on reddit :/ )
They were free speech purists. I can understand the position and know it’s not necessarily malicious.
The irony of ViolentAcrez fanboys being mad about his privacy being violated.
The turn it took at the end with Grant is so tragic. :( His poor family.
The story of Grant Amato is so sad. His father was so kind and loving and just wanted his son to get better and grow up. He tried all he could to care for his son and get him on the right path even when it wasn't the easy option. And what did he get in return? A bullet to the head.
How sick and unempathetic do you have to be to have that much love and affection from someone who genuinely cares for you and still believe that they deserve to die? It really goes to show that sometimes, it doesn't matter how good of a parent you are, your child could still end up a terrible person and none of it will be your fault.
At the very least, the sick bastard will never see the outside of prison again. I'd have raged if they went with life with parole. Scum like him do not deserve a chance to be amongst society again.
An extra gross fact that gets revealed in the full interrogation (you can find online) is the fact that after he killed his parents and brother Cody, he stole Cody’s credit card and drove to a strip mall to get wifi access. And what did he do? Bought more tokens for that cam girl. Disgusting.
"better himself"... funny how for women that always means: draw clear boundaries, remove him from you life etc. While for men it means: "take better care of her, be better for her".
it pisses me off that he dismisses his predatory actions as being 'meaningless' and just 'pissing people off' like, you're not relentlessly poking someone until they explode, you're encouraging people to take unsolicited pictures of minors and put them on the internet in a sexual context that's a fucking felony
“Women should stop dating jerks and give nice guys a chance”
The nice guys:
if have to name yourself as a "NICE GUY" , you probably arent nice.
If you are just nice to sleep with a woman you are a creep
They should
My advice is you might as well just bang hot dudes. You might as well be with someone attractive if they're gonna end up being piece of garbage.
@@Lowclasswarrior778being nice is the bare minimum. You also need to be interesting to the person you're pursuing.
22:50 "Autistically committed" is a tough take my man
finding out that violentacrez had kids was heartbreaking. I hope they're ok
Wonder how he would have felt seeing his kids pictures on his Reddit.
@@YurinanAcquilineprobably felt empathy for the first time in his life
@@Bleeeh_doubt it, a guy who likes "pushing people's buttons" for entertainment is abusive, my dad is just like him
Micheal 100% deserved to have his life ruined for what he did to those minors.
no matter how creepy and terminally online the first dudes are, no one can hold a candle to grant amato. absolute monster
“Police however insisted it was a dildo.”
That line is legendary😂😂
I am probably considered terminally online because I rarely leave the house due to disability and the internet is how I interact with the world. I stay out of fandom drama and really don’t talk or interact with many people except some good friends and having surface level conversations in certain groups. I spend most of my time reading, watching TH-cam videos on random topics, and going on strange deep dives and learning sprees for things I’ll never need and will never do.
Dude, you’re harmless. I mean you don’t plan a mass shooting, and you ain’t the Runescape guy. I hope you grow as a human and learn new things, even if your disability makes it hard for you to get out of the house.
Hope i can make myself understandable ( im from Denmark 🇩🇰 )
Im the same… I could have written what you wrote
I have a TBI (traumatic brain injury ) because i have had a brain tumour 2 strokes and 4 aneurysm.
I have cptsd and i also have the diagnosis dissociative identity disorder.
Before my craniotomy, tumour,strokes, I was one person,today another… … totally opposites …
But one thing watching dark things a whole other thing is doing dark things .
Like me…. Love watching you tube serial killer films… me being a killer… I couldn’t kill a fly
I'm in the same boat. I was once a bit more terminally online though, got pretty deep into fandom drama and social media echo chambers. It's like, I didn't realize how far gone I actually was until I had to step back a while during a mental health incident. It still took me a few years after that to start seriously weaning myself off social media, but I'm doing loads better now. I gotta say though, I was never dangerous like the dudes in the video, I was just miserable on a personal level.
@@Naixatloz fandom drama can get fuvking mental. And it’s hardly spoken about compared to TH-camr drama, etc. I suppose because it’s more niche? But damn, shits wild!
@@Krea57 sounds like you’ve had a hell of a run. Stay strong 💪 You’re definitely a warrior. I know just how hard it is when your whole life changes and you can’t do the things you used to, never mind plan for the future. It can mess you up and leave you in a dark place, but I agree, I could never even think of doing these things to hurt others. I don’t even like killing grasshoppers that eat my plants!
I shouldn’t be laughing, but “When does preparing for a crime become an attempt?” Made me choke on my coffee.
It reminds me of a guy that was covered on this channel that looked up how to knife fight, and how much time he would get for his (at the time) planned crime.
Basically before whatever point that already was lmao
My name is James Randell and I am 82 years old and my favorite food is a heartbreaker, with cream, extra cheese, no lettuce, and a side of French with extra salt
The Amato family story is just sad. They were super forgiving people and Grant just took advantage of it
The cam girl is the one that really took advantage of it.
@@frankculaga5169 Yeah. But remember, she was just doing her job. Grant Amato had a paradoxical relationship with her, which is a one way relationship. I don’t blame the cam girl because she had no real involvement with him spending his money, just doing her job.
@@frankculaga5169 All she’s doing is just business. She could get money from literally anybody else.
This is all on Grant. He should’ve stopped before things got worse for him.
@@nicholascauton9648 All the Mexican drug cartels are doing is just business. Yeah good excuse isn't it.
@@MrVideo540 "Yeah. But remember, she was just doing her job". During World War 2 the SS officers in Nazi Germany were just doing their job. They had orders under their superiors. Otherwise they got executed. See? Their excuse is better than hers.
Something you left out of the grant amato story is his other brother forgiving him for all he had done.
He was given so many chances to change and never did. And even though he committed a very heinous act, his brother was there after the interrogation
I don’t feel bad for Michael in any sense of the term. He can cry all he wants about having his life ruined for “riling people up over meaningless things”, but that’s completely meaningless when he was actively providing a safe space for predators and allowing underage girls to be victimized. No amount of talking around his actions can undo the damage caused to these girls.
Me riling people up: pretending to be a flat earther.
Micheal riling people up: hosting a forum for pedophiles
He didn't just allow it, he encouraged it.
It's almost as if being a troll that uses actually vile things has repercussions.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes
I wouldn't even consider him a troll. He was just a straight up predator. Not sure what asking for only underage girls and creepy pics is troll like behavior.
Except incels aren’t trolls. They mean every word they say. They find humor in sexually harassing people as a coping mechanism, a la “It’S jUsT a JoKe LoL gEt TrIgGeReD wHoRe”
Honestly there wasnt a better punishment. He wanted to be vile he gets the treatment
A troll that actively facilitated CP and nonconsensual nude photos got what he deserved.
I love how badly the lead interrogator was at handling this guy and how often you see the side detective step in and rescue his rookie moves.
That's one of the most frustrating interrogation videos I've ever seen. The lead is basically reduced to "cmon, I'll be your best friend!". Imagine trying to appeal with Jesus and "what's right" to a guy who just killed his whole family over a cam girl.
Whats insane to me is when Jason walks into the interrogation room, face to face with the man who just murdered his entire family, and gives him a hug. Like, what the fuck? That thing is not your brother anymore dude.
He did not know at the time
Everyone knows that someone who's good at flirting always has to tell the person they're flirting with how good at flirting they are
women do it all the time.
Respectfully, most of Michael Brusch’s victims were children or girls…not ‘underage women’.
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 'Underage' and 'women' should never be together. Lowkey promotes p3do behaviors.
He doesn't want video banned
i'm assuming due to weird TH-cam rules he had to say that, but yeah.
People are saying it's because of youtube rules but I've seen this term in news articles and news reports too. He's using it because it's genuinely popping up everywhere It's absolutely insane that this is in use at all. Point it out whenever you see it. Do people look at a boy and think "that's an underage man"? No. Women are adults only. Adults are not underage. People keep trying to make girls seem more adult even when they're not aware of it. Don't use that term.
edit - And no one's "getting a strike" for using a correct term. There are entire transcripts of absolutely creepy things he reads out in this video and censors just a little. Whoever wants to die on this hill is sus.
@@Maialeen Jesus lighten up its not that serious he's trying to not get a strike
i had to pause for a second when he mentioned how Grant Amado's dad said, “im gonna have to work a few more years than i would have, but it’s okay, i don’t want him going to jail.” some people would do anything to have a father that loved them enough to help them in this desperate time of need and to think Grant decided to kill them all instead. It makes me want to cry
It's so sad that good parents are given to people who don't deserve them
I love when you bring up cases I've already heard before, you always add a lot of background info, and the script is refreshing
My brother was a drud addict. My parents repeatedly let him live in the house despite his stealing and violent threats. I was the "good" kid and was constantly stressed and afraid. I could have ended up loke poor Cody
. Parents need to protect their family despite the heartbreak they are going through!!
the disconnect between michael (violentarcez) and his actions is crazy. the fact that he can say the article ruined HIS life without acknowledging that he's ruined so many childrens lives is beyond me
They should be shown no leniency simply because they were caught in time....they should be sentenced as though they successfully carried out the crime
Ill never stop being bewildered by lawyers who have to defend clearly guilty people, especially ones like this. Its gotta be hard and fuck with the mental
The rehab center let him out of the program after 2 weeks? That's so ridiculous. Being clean from ANY addiction for only two weeks is good progress, and I don't want to downplay how important that is for someone with an addiction, but 2 weeks does NOT make you rehabilitated.
Yeah that seems so crazy
@@Ellie-rx3jt Something tells me that Grant was faking it, and he tricked the staff into letting him go.
Thats insane. It takes between 60 to 90 days just to get rid of a habit. So I dont see how any kind of progress can have been made in two weeks regarding substance abuse and addiction.
@@anthonyhack1164 Or his behavior was so egregious that the staff booted him out the door and he lied about progressing so fast so his family wouldn't be suspicious.
5 years. I tried my best to see other cases and it would take, at least (according to someone who browsed 2 sites and has no idea what im talking about) 5 years to complete rehab.
The last story is crazy, he had stolen $200,000 which is a crazy amount and his family decided to take him to Japan on a trip to get away from the internet and experience nature. That is awesome and I would only dream of being able to do that just normally. Can't believe bro threw all that away for some girl
A girl who didn't even care about him. She was pretty much a prostitute. (Not inherently a bad thing to be.)
Grant, while in Japan with his brother and their buddy, stole his buddy's credit card to buy tokens to speak to the cam girl. Even on the trip he was stealing to feed his addiction.
And that girl doesnt even care if he existed or not...he was blessed, and really..thays how he repays them. Absolute monster
I know 😭
The cam girl is the real crook. Cam girls are scam girls. And scum girls too.
reddit troll his logic was so twisted and disturbed like he was okay with showing pic's of young kids (which isnt okay while also revealing there full names and address) but once he was caught out and shown he tried to act like he needed a shield. Though in this case seems rat got ratted out and got his own karma for sure.
He's so gross🤢 all he cared about was himself "its affected me, its affected my family" like boo hoo and I supposed to be sad for you, little bitch baby, you gonna cry about how you ruining childens lives ruined yours? Go cry about it creep