Please give yourself a pat on the back. Your video was the best I've seen in recent times. Your editing was spot on. No music, which is just a distraction. You speak very clearly and not too fast. I'd give your video a 10 out of 10. I'm now a subscriber.
I would have loved to see you replace the cooling system for a bigger radiator mounted on the front. I bet that would really help keep the intel chip cooler. That radiator for the water cooled chip seems to small.
I will say that I'm quite impressed by the performance on the stock Dell fans. Dell did an absolutely excellent job on this PC with the changes implemented vs their prior PC. Honestly, the only drastic change was the noise level of the Noctua fans vs the Dell fans. Great video!!!
Dell's fan is very good at performance it put out a lot of air, but to get that performance, it's loud. if you always have your PC under heavy load, then stay with the OEM fans.
I believe the stock fans are 3000 RPM, the Noctua replacements I believe are 2000 RPM. The difference in RPM would definitely be quieter. Not sure how much less airflow you'd get though. Noctua has high pressure versions of the same fans at 3000 RPM. So you're AWCC configurations would be similar not sure if there would be a db noise difference though.
Great vid and very interesting! I'm just left wondering why on earth can't Dell fix this themselves at the factory before shipping, this is not a cheap pre-build - Dell should be tripping over themselves for the hefty price they are charging to iron out such obvious and simple-to-solve niggles.....not leaving it to the customer! Keep up the informative videos dude 👍
The fans they use are server fans, actually each fan is capable of 4K RPM and 135 CFM thats 3800 litres of air per minute. So they actually perform better than the Noctua ones, but at the cost of sound. I am swapping them too on my R13 ordered 3x Noctua Noctua NF-A12 × 25 PWM chromax. black and for the RGB Fractal Design Prisma AL-12 ARGB PWM. The Airflow on those is enough for the system.
@@RyanYu I ended just replacing the 3 fans, the one on CPU radiator has some proprietary connector so i left that one stock. But re-pasting CPU did some differences, try it.
I used the Noctua fans you recommended but kept getting a Lower Front Fan error on boot. I swapped fans to see if it was just one bad fan, but all three had the same error in the same location. There seems to be something about this particular fan model that the Aurora BIOS does not like, and only in the one location. I put the Dell fan back only in the Lower Front location and have not had the error repeat.
I have the same issue with the Noctua NF-A12x25 Black, get a "Front Lower Fan Detect Failure". If anyone else finds a workaround for this appreciated. Fan is running but detect error on boot. For now, if I restart it goes away - only on shutdown.
Awesome video! I was hoping to see this upgrade on TH-cam, thank you! My R13 finally made it to the "Production" stage after a week delay, can't wait for it to ship!
Mine has been in production for close to a month, I am getting pretty disappointed. It has been delayed twice now while in production. It has gone from the 6th to the 15th to the 20th. I'm not hopeful about the 20th estimated ship date because it has already been changed and delayed twice now. They did claim that they had all of the parts, but I've recieved several conflicting reports. I am a patient person, but it really irritates me when I am given several estimated ship dates. If they can't ship it by a certain date then they need to let people know beforehand.
@@bobbrock4221 wow, what spec did you go with? I have been tracking my order like a hawk since I first placed it on November 6th. Originally supposed to be delivered by the 10th, it was delayed till the 20th. The order went into "Production" on the 14th and went to "Shipped" on the 17th. I made a few chat attempts with their service department to get things rolling faster but it did not really help. I got the Lunar White i9, RTX 3080, 16GB RAM, Cryotech Cooling.
@@leogarcia4438 mine is exactly the same, but it is black. I am hoping that they finally ship it on Monday. I am getting pretty annoyed by all of this. I am patient, but I don't like being given dates that they have no intention of honoring. Why not just estimate that they will ship it sometime between December and July? That would be better than giving me 15 different expected ship dates. I've contacted them every single day for a over a week straight and will continue to do so until it arrives. My order date was October 31st. When I ordered my R10 it was only in production for like two days. Hopefully I'll get my PC before January 20th so I'll have it for my next semester of school. If not I'll just have to continue using this mighty 20 year old Dell Intel Celeron PC. I am shocked that the thing still works.
Mine arrived today! The Corsair ML120 Pros were out of stock so I got the Noctua Chromax Black ones. Swapped them in before even turning it on. Also got the 10tb spinning rust drive I bought installed and it's really amazing how quiet it is after the swap. Thanks for the video it was super helpful
Did you have any issues with the Noctua Chromax for the top? I see they changed the power connector to only a little like 1/4” nub connector, my worry is that would get in the way when replacing the top fan. If no issues then I’m going to buy those, but wanted to see if you had any issues with them for the top fan replacement. Any info would be super!
@@Creetchure Was a tad more trouble just had to run the cable on the side corner area. I really don't like the nub thing Noctua did on these black ones
@@AlyxSharkBite-2000 I agree, was a mistake. Thanks for the quick reply. I’ll probably go for the ML 120 Pro though they will be a bit louder, will allow for more CFM.
Its kind of disappointing that you have to spent some much on the PC and still have to do all these upgrades but the fan noise is so much better, a much needed upgrade.
Thanks for such an informative video! I have my R13 on the way and have been enjoying all your videos about it! I'll definitely look into getting these Noctua fans!
Excellent video, great suggestions, and easy to follow instructions! Thank you :). Do you have thoughts on which fan you order between Corsair and the Noctua? I appreciate the vid. Keep them coming! Liked and subscribed.
I replaced the case fans with the black Noctua ones, I just with you could replace the radiator fan with an RGB because the effect is cool but it is a cheap fan. It cools well enough, but it is a loud fan for ok performance.
Nice video. I found it tough to decide between quiet or cool. I found noctua doesn’t do well at high loads since it doesn’t have the high rpms to tackle the huge heat the pc produces. But under small loads noctua was nice. I wish you didn’t have to choose between cool and quiet.
The fans made little difference to me. I took them back out and put the originals back. Under load the Noctua need to work a lot harder, negating any benefits.
Hello Ryan, Nice video. I have a quick question. I replaced my fans but when I ran a diagnostics test both front fans have failed the test. Have you tried the diagnostics test by pressing F12 when rebooting your pc?
Ohhh I get it now. So the two arrows on the fan are both the same ways round. Its because theres a left and down ponting arrow but they will be both the same way when you put ir in the case, correct? ok thank you for your time and help
Nice video, you need to add this to the water cooler for push/pull on the CPU, connect the fan into the spare cpu connector. PHANTEKS PH-F120T30 120MM FAN. That’s the real deal!!
Agreed, but my 12900 loves it😂💪 Huge temps drops. But being serious, they are actually as quiet as Noctua fans at the same RPM, I might even try and fit them all around as they ramp to 3000rpm
The phanteks fan is 30mm thick, will it fit on the AIO and around the case also? Did you notice much improvement in CPU temps and did you keep the stock RGB fan as the push fan? Thanks!!
My Friend thank you so very much and really appreciate for every video’s, great, I’ve got mine and I also as you changed the dell fan’s to a noctua same 120 fan’s, but for some reason, on the screen sign keeps showing that, fan failed to respond correctly, My friend if you have time and don’t mind then could you please kindly explain step-by-step how can I sort this out through bios, in advance many thanks and really appreciate for you’re hard work and time, Mohammed.
Im actually planning to replace my aurora r13 fans to 3 noctua fans the same one that your using here,, problem is my pc is still on the way haha. Will keep an eye on your upgrades
Great vid ! is this sufficient for the correct functioning of the cooling system or do you intend to change the water cooling system as well ? Is the cryotech system sufficient and good quality ? thank you man !
thx for the giveaway! great video, hopefully the noc fans won't be purchase limited by amazon as the ML120 pros, I could only buy 3 of those corsair fans
Thanks for the great video. I upgraded my fans to the Corsair ML120s with your help. They are functioning, but Command Center doesn't seem to have any effect on their speed anymore, meaning I can't change their speed. If I set one of the higher running profiles, the only fan that changes is the stock CPU fan which wasn't upgraded. Any ideas or tips? Thanks!
@@RyanYu I reset the CMOS and can change the speed now. But having one other small issue. I added one of the stock fans to the top of the case for exhaust, and command center isn't recognizing the new/extra fan. It's on and spinning, but CC only shows a total of 4 fans still, not 5
I would be cautious doing this. The Noctua fans only run at 2000 rpm max, which is half of the 4000 rpm max rate of the stock fans. I know the Noctua fans are good quality but there is going to be a reduction in the max amount of heat that the Noctua's can handle verses the stock fans. If you don't push your system hard for extended time periods and you really want to lower the noise level this may be a good modification for you but if you push your system to hard you are almost certainly going to run into thermal issues forcing the cpu/gpu to throttle back and reduce performance to prevent damage from high temps.
I replaced all my fans with Noctua I have an A12x25 on my rad then three 1700rpm P12 high performance redux’s as case fans before the swap while gaming I was at 74C now I’m at 50C while gaming i idled at 50C before swapping any fans now I idle at 30C, after replacing the fans I did a cinebench R23 multi core run *( which puts a 100% load on all cores )* and only hit 76C the OEM fans even if they are 4000 rpm blows chode, my GPU is also running 4C cooler while gamine now so I would say those case fans suck I went to 1700 rpm fans and am getting better thermals thanks dells crap
@@shorty808100 Can you explain a little more about how u set em up? My cpu's hitting like low to mid 90's when its doing heavy benches. i9 of course lmfao
Im finding the first demonstration of the arrows pointing correct way confusing as you show them then turn the fan around. Is it the arrow on the fan pointing right, that needs to be same way? sorry for all the questions. Theres two arrows on the fan so im confused which one needs to be pointing same way as the arrow on the case.
I just did the exact same thing. It's awesome but I'm also considering replacing the fan on the cooler with a noctua as well. I don't really care for the rgb since I mostly have that all turned off. Have you tried?
great video! i have the exact same noctua fans & for whatever reason whenever i swap out the OEM lower fan with a noctua, it gives me an error at post. doesnt matter which noctua fan i use either.. it just instantly gives me an error. no clue why but the 2 upper fans work fine!
@@RyanYu yeah dude i did that for shits & giggles same thing. from what i read on dells forums its because the speed of the fan isnt fast enough for that port & a new bios update will cause an error to show up if it detects that. gonna get the 3000rpm noctua & see if it fixes it.
@@RyanYu i posted a reply to you but i dont know what happened to it, but the new 3000rpm noctua worked for me i dont get that bios error anymore so it definitely has to do with the speed of the fan.
I did this upgrade and got a blue screen, then detection errors on all fans. Dell does NOT like non-OEM and the BIOS detects this and errors out. Fans are spinning and quiet, but system seems a bit unstable for now. Will keep an eye on this. I may just buy a good MOBO and case and transplant the CPU, RAM, and GPU along with the Noctuas, then get a new AIO for the CPU and bump the power up to 1200kw and call it a day.
@@RyanYu Yes. Seems a common issue according to my research. I seem ok for now. Next issue ia my Windows 11 is blocking my firmware update from Alienware via Defender. Unable to turn off Tamper Protection. Another problem for a different day.
I replaced the fans with the Corsair ML 120 Pro with RGBs and got the startup fan error which is fine. The annoying part is even with the new fans, the R13 still runs too loud. Thinking of switching out the 3080 Ti for a hybrid version with the radiator attached to the front bezel. You think it'll work?
@@RyanYu opened the case and put my ear right next to the PSU and there isn’t much noise coming from there on idle. It’s definitely the water cooler pump making the sound.
Hello! Swapped out the fans and got an error on the bottom fan. Swapped the top for the bottom and the error remained with the bottom. Swapped out the bottom fan with a new fan and the error remains. Any suggestions? Thanks!
I recently got the Noctua fans about a week ago the same ones in this video and after a week of having them every time I turn on my PC an error pops up saying that bottom front fan is missing
Hi first of all thanks for the video. I just installed three of the same fans on the r13, two of them worked perfectly but there was one that says lower front fan error, what can I do to fix it? Thanks!
I have the feeling that the fan connected to the CPU cooling makes a lot of noise. Is it possible to switch it out too? I already switched out the three other fans for some nocturas
Hi, just noticed that in the ACC the speeds for the 3 installed fans always remains around 45%, never changes even if I put it at 100% in a new profile and then activate the profile properly in the main page of the ACC. Do you know what could be causing this? Thanks!
Does the Corsair ML120 Pro LED work? I saw the link to the one that doesnt have LEDS. Wondering if this would cause bios issues? My R11has lots of BIOS issues from my current fans which is annoying because i bought the wrong model of the same product. Thanks if you have time to reply
Thank you for the useful information. I enjoyed all your Alienware videos. I have got an R13 as well and I am thinking of putting in RGB fans. On the motherboard I can see 7 pin headers for the RGB just above the 4 pin PWM. My Cryo-Tech RGB fan has got a 7 pin and a 4 pin connector but I can't find any other RGB fans with a 7 pin connector. I can't even find a 7 pin to 3 pin RGB adapter. Do you have any idea how can I install RGB fans and connect it to the motherboard RGB header? I prefer not to use a controller box. I guess one solution is to buy the same fan that came with the Cryo-Tech cooler but again I have no idea where to find that.
Can you say that magic word, proprietary? Alienware decides what you can and can't do to THEIR PCs. RGB fans might one day be included in their options list $$$.
@@RyanYu I have the same error and I don't think it's a fan issue. People on reddit mentioned that after a BIOS upgrade few months ago, they started having BIOS error at boot. What was suspected is that BIOS check the RPM of fans and since Noctua only goes to 2000 RPM, it may be failing the test. For me, the lower front fan was detected as failure but was working, the top fan wasn't so I replaced it back to stock that one until I find another solution...
The R12 had a bracket in the way so most full size cards wouldn't fit. I have the R13 and there is way more room as the bracket doesn't sit as close. You should be able to slot any standard card in there. Not sure about the larger boutique cards though.
I kept replaying the first fan on your video and it looks like the arrow pointing right on the fan is what has to face the arrow on the case. is that correct please?
my r13 has 4000rpm fans. why would I want to change them to lower rpm fans? If it because of noise just make the fan curve not go above 2000rpm boom its quieter lol
Can someone please explain which fans are what on the R13? Top fan is pretty obvious, but which fan is the mid fan, side fan, and front fan? Also, I have noticed that on mine the side fan under load is at 60% fan speed, which gets pretty loud. Is it possible to change the fan lables?
@@RyanYu Thanks for the reply. I understand they are 120mm fans, but from looking at the AWCC I can’t tell where the fans are located in the case. For example, where is the side fan located?
I am interested in what 120mm fans are the absolute best for temperature and I personally don't care about noise. I stream new games on highest graphics settings using OBS and review their particle aesthetics, I rarely turn off my computer, and my noise-reduction on my microphone is good, so any ideas for best of best in this regard?
You have mentioned in a couple comments that the stock OEM fans are good performers but they are louder. However the video shows a noise level improvement And a temp improvement. Do you suggest sticking with the stock fans because the temps aren’t much of an improvement or could you clarify. Thanks again for a great video!
@@davidfrancis2163 I think he means that the other fans are capped at a lower max rpm under sustained heavy load, but idk if he is accounting for manually adjusting the fan curves of both with MSI Afterburner, so I am not sure if his advice is perfect because I do not know his level of manual adjustment... or what levels are possible...
Yeah. The dell fans do spin up extremely fast but are obnoxiously loud. I’m trying to find a sweet spot for high rpm fans and noise. I haven’t been able to find any noise comparisons on high rpm 120mm fans. I guess I might need to just go through some trial and error.
Yo!!! Thanks for the tips. Great looking machine. Just got my X17 R1 3070 165Hz. Was trying to test it side by side with my MSI GE76 Raider 3060 144Hz and wasn’t seeing a ton of difference between a little brighter/crisper screen. Was getting about the same thermals and fps. Not sure if I can justify the $847 price difference. :-( X17 is so pretty though. What would you do if you had the choice? 😂
@@RyanYu it surely is. I got the door buster deal so it was seemingly a lesser model of the X17 so I was nervous I went to cheap on this already expensive model to make the upgrade truly worth it. I wish I had bench mark programs to run.
Hey I have done the same fan swap to mine are you able to set the fan speed to 100% in Awcc ? I can only set to 45% for the noctua fans I assume it’s because the awcc is set up for the stock fans with 100% = 4000rpm and the noctua fans only do 2000rmp max so I’m guessing that’s why it can only go to 45% in awcc that’s what I’m thinking anyway do you see the same in yours
@@RyanYu I see, noise doesn't bother me. I just want to upgrade the looks of it. Hopefully you will find a solution for that. Thanks you for all these tutorial vids.
So from your previous video it appears the r13 can take a 3.5 hdd of 4 tb, 2.5 sdd 1 tb and m.2 sdd 1 tb, what would be the max storage capacity I can add?
Do I need the cables with the new fan or can i use the fans from the dell fans ? Also while the sound is better it doesnt look like it brings tempd down that much. How much of a different is the temps now
@@RyanYu Oh right, but it keeps temps down under 80 would you say. Im ready to buy them from your link. They are sold without some cables. If I buy the fans on their own, do they still come with the main wire or do i need to connect it. sorry im new to building
You really need to have liquid coooling. No fan is going to solve your problem. Liquid cooling is an absolute necessity for these PCs. It should be made standard on all models.
@@RyanYu hey! i want to add a liquid cooling into my AW R12 but its already at my house, and its for christmas, but like how do i install it on a AW and like which one is good? Cant i pay for the geek squad to do it for me?
I wanted to have the Cryo Tech Liquid Cooling that has LED/RGB Logo. Does anyone know where I can purchase them? I talked to Dell and they are out of stock. I am willing to swap, buy the heatsink if anyone is interested. I have the one with the logo without the LED. Thank you very much. I have Alienware Aurora R14.
@@RyanYu all fans are still working well in normal. But in heavyload situation, the fans are still working same as before.(didn’t changed RPM) Also My Aurora 13 doesn’t recognise the fans that I changed.
Had this system for a while, going for a custom build now and wont get pre builts again. this was a nice system in terms of performance and never had any issues. But the CPU on some games like the new spiderman game is ready 90 to 98c which is unacceptable. Ive tried everything and this system is simply a dumpster fire.
@@RyanYu Yes, Liquid cooled. Apparently after resarching about this, the cooler isnt good enough to deal with temps. Not sure if it is entirely true, but dell are aware of heat issues because they have a new alienware r15 model coming out this holiday and they boast about better cooling, so they know this one isnt the best. I just got tried of worrying about thermals so sending it back and getting a custom build now and the stock fans and whining noise from the system got on my nerves.
@@RyanYu the OEM is way too noisy.. and looks like i got a faulty one it’s making a sharp rubbing sounds.. my cpu temperature is about 60-65 when gaming, probably i should change 2 front ones
Please give yourself a pat on the back. Your video was the best I've seen in recent times. Your editing was spot on. No music, which is just a distraction. You speak very clearly and not too fast. I'd give your video a 10 out of 10. I'm now a subscriber.
Thank you man! That means a lot to me! More contents are on the way, stay tuned!
I would have loved to see you replace the cooling system for a bigger radiator mounted on the front. I bet that would really help keep the intel chip cooler. That radiator for the water cooled chip seems to small.
I will say that I'm quite impressed by the performance on the stock Dell fans. Dell did an absolutely excellent job on this PC with the changes implemented vs their prior PC. Honestly, the only drastic change was the noise level of the Noctua fans vs the Dell fans. Great video!!!
Dell's fan is very good at performance it put out a lot of air, but to get that performance, it's loud. if you always have your PC under heavy load, then stay with the OEM fans.
@@RyanYu makes alot of sense. Thank you very much for your response.
My r13 is on its way. It shipped yesterday 🙌
Nice!
I believe the stock fans are 3000 RPM, the Noctua replacements I believe are 2000 RPM. The difference in RPM would definitely be quieter. Not sure how much less airflow you'd get though. Noctua has high pressure versions of the same fans at 3000 RPM. So you're AWCC configurations would be similar not sure if there would be a db noise difference though.
Not too much but in the max performance the OEM is better
I didn't even watch with sound and I already know this video was awesome
Holy cow. Thx.
Great vid and very interesting! I'm just left wondering why on earth can't Dell fix this themselves at the factory before shipping, this is not a cheap pre-build - Dell should be tripping over themselves for the hefty price they are charging to iron out such obvious and simple-to-solve niggles.....not leaving it to the customer! Keep up the informative videos dude 👍
Actually, their fans are good at performance more RPM and CBM, since it spins more there is more noise.
The fans they use are server fans, actually each fan is capable of 4K RPM and 135 CFM thats 3800 litres of air per minute. So they actually perform better than the Noctua ones, but at the cost of sound. I am swapping them too on my R13 ordered 3x Noctua Noctua NF-A12 × 25 PWM chromax. black and for the RGB Fractal Design Prisma AL-12 ARGB PWM. The Airflow on those is enough for the system.
@@addd717 yep totally right.
@@RyanYu I ended just replacing the 3 fans, the one on CPU radiator has some proprietary connector so i left that one stock. But re-pasting CPU did some differences, try it.
@@addd717 :)
Dude, your videos are fantastic - you need more subscribers, thank you!
Thank you for that man. , your comment needs to be seen by more people. haha.
I used the Noctua fans you recommended but kept getting a Lower Front Fan error on boot. I swapped fans to see if it was just one bad fan, but all three had the same error in the same location. There seems to be something about this particular fan model that the Aurora BIOS does not like, and only in the one location. I put the Dell fan back only in the Lower Front location and have not had the error repeat.
That's odd, I don't have any issues...
I have the same issue with the Noctua NF-A12x25 Black, get a "Front Lower Fan Detect Failure". If anyone else finds a workaround for this appreciated. Fan is running but detect error on boot. For now, if I restart it goes away - only on shutdown.
Awesome video! I was hoping to see this upgrade on TH-cam, thank you! My R13 finally made it to the "Production" stage after a week delay, can't wait for it to ship!
Glad I could help!
Mine has been in production for close to a month, I am getting pretty disappointed. It has been delayed twice now while in production. It has gone from the 6th to the 15th to the 20th. I'm not hopeful about the 20th estimated ship date because it has already been changed and delayed twice now. They did claim that they had all of the parts, but I've recieved several conflicting reports. I am a patient person, but it really irritates me when I am given several estimated ship dates. If they can't ship it by a certain date then they need to let people know beforehand.
Mine too!
@@bobbrock4221 wow, what spec did you go with? I have been tracking my order like a hawk since I first placed it on November 6th. Originally supposed to be delivered by the 10th, it was delayed till the 20th. The order went into "Production" on the 14th and went to "Shipped" on the 17th. I made a few chat attempts with their service department to get things rolling faster but it did not really help. I got the Lunar White i9, RTX 3080, 16GB RAM, Cryotech Cooling.
@@leogarcia4438 mine is exactly the same, but it is black. I am hoping that they finally ship it on Monday. I am getting pretty annoyed by all of this. I am patient, but I don't like being given dates that they have no intention of honoring. Why not just estimate that they will ship it sometime between December and July? That would be better than giving me 15 different expected ship dates. I've contacted them every single day for a over a week straight and will continue to do so until it arrives. My order date was October 31st. When I ordered my R10 it was only in production for like two days. Hopefully I'll get my PC before January 20th so I'll have it for my next semester of school. If not I'll just have to continue using this mighty 20 year old Dell Intel Celeron PC. I am shocked that the thing still works.
For my Alienware it only came with one fan, does anybody know where I could get more brackets?
Dell/Alienware NEEDS to hire you. Your vids are super easy to understand and follow : )
IKR! They should contact me!
Mine arrived today! The Corsair ML120 Pros were out of stock so I got the Noctua Chromax Black ones. Swapped them in before even turning it on. Also got the 10tb spinning rust drive I bought installed and it's really amazing how quiet it is after the swap.
Thanks for the video it was super helpful
No problem, man! enjoy your beast!
Did you have any issues with the Noctua Chromax for the top? I see they changed the power connector to only a little like 1/4” nub connector, my worry is that would get in the way when replacing the top fan.
If no issues then I’m going to buy those, but wanted to see if you had any issues with them for the top fan replacement. Any info would be super!
@@Creetchure Was a tad more trouble just had to run the cable on the side corner area. I really don't like the nub thing Noctua did on these black ones
@@AlyxSharkBite-2000 I agree, was a mistake. Thanks for the quick reply. I’ll probably go for the ML 120 Pro though they will be a bit louder, will allow for more CFM.
@@Creetchure I was going to too but they were out of stock but they had the Noctua
Its kind of disappointing that you have to spent some much on the PC and still have to do all these upgrades but the fan noise is so much better, a much needed upgrade.
It depends on people needs, I'm pretty picky on noise level, so I made the upgrade. haha.
Can you please show how to clean Aurora r13? Because I want to make sure I take good care of it and do a good maintenance every month or two.
Of course man, I have the video.
Thanks from South Korea. It was 100% perfect guide for me. Noise reduction effect is incredible!
You are welcome.
Thanks for such an informative video! I have my R13 on the way and have been enjoying all your videos about it! I'll definitely look into getting these Noctua fans!
No problem man. Glad you like them. Congrats on your pc!
Excellent video, great suggestions, and easy to follow instructions! Thank you :). Do you have thoughts on which fan you order between Corsair and the Noctua? I appreciate the vid. Keep them coming! Liked and subscribed.
I used the Noctua since the Corsair is limited only one order per person.
I replaced the case fans with the black Noctua ones, I just with you could replace the radiator fan with an RGB because the effect is cool but it is a cheap fan. It cools well enough, but it is a loud fan for ok performance.
That RGB one it's hard to replace for AWCC to change the RGB.
Nice video. I found it tough to decide between quiet or cool. I found noctua doesn’t do well at high loads since it doesn’t have the high rpms to tackle the huge heat the pc produces. But under small loads noctua was nice. I wish you didn’t have to choose between cool and quiet.
Corsair pretty good.
Would Corsair fans make it way cooler cause I could care less about the sound
Great tutorial man, this allow me to make the R13 quieter and comfier to use under heavy load, cheers!!
Nice
The fans made little difference to me. I took them back out and put the originals back. Under load the Noctua need to work a lot harder, negating any benefits.
The OEM fans are better at performance.
Thanks for this video definitely going to change the fans on mine once it arrives!
No problem 👍
Hello Ryan,
Nice video.
I have a quick question. I replaced my fans but when I ran a diagnostics test both front fans have failed the test. Have you tried the diagnostics test by pressing F12 when rebooting your pc?
Nope
Ohhh I get it now. So the two arrows on the fan are both the same ways round. Its because theres a left and down ponting arrow but they will be both the same way when you put ir in the case, correct? ok thank you for your time and help
No problem,
If it makes it simpler for me to understand, the sticker/ writing on the fan is what needs to be facing inside the case so you can see it :)
simply just find the arrow, and make sure it points inside the case.
Nice video, you need to add this to the water cooler for push/pull on the CPU, connect the fan into the spare cpu connector. PHANTEKS PH-F120T30 120MM FAN.
That’s the real deal!!
More fans = more noise tho.
Agreed, but my 12900 loves it😂💪 Huge temps drops. But being serious, they are actually as quiet as Noctua fans at the same RPM, I might even try and fit them all around as they ramp to 3000rpm
The phanteks fan is 30mm thick, will it fit on the AIO and around the case also?
Did you notice much improvement in CPU temps and did you keep the stock RGB fan as the push fan?
Thanks!!
@@debellate7167 I didn't do the push and pull .
@Debellate the t30s do not fit in the stock fan holder without modification. But the do fit push/pull on aio.
Great video! Have you re done the thermal paste? I saw a decent temp drop after I did mine (properly on the 3rd try)
Nope, I don't think it's that necessary.
My Friend thank you so very much and really appreciate for every video’s, great, I’ve got mine and I also as you changed the dell fan’s to a noctua same 120 fan’s, but for some reason, on the screen sign keeps showing that, fan failed to respond correctly, My friend if you have time and don’t mind then could you please kindly explain step-by-step how can I sort this out through bios, in advance many thanks and really appreciate for you’re hard work and time, Mohammed.
There is no where to by pass that in the bios.
@@RyanYu Any other way my Friend, thanks.
Looking forward you to reach 3K
Thx bro
Im actually planning to replace my aurora r13 fans to 3 noctua fans the same one that your using here,, problem is my pc is still on the way haha. Will keep an eye on your upgrades
What configuration did you order? When did you order and whats the total price if you dont mind me asking?
When is the eta?
Dec 24. Ordered the i7 16 gb ram and 3080ti.
Thanks for the great video showing how simple this is. Prob will have to make this upgrade when I get mine.
When is your eta?
@@RyanYu Should arrive in 10 days or so.
@@nathanc6516 nice I bet you can’t wait.
@@RyanYu Should be cool! And if not, I know how to fix the fans now lol
Hi can you do a video on redoing the RTX 3080 thermal paste?
Justin tech tip has one man.
Amazing to see the diff! Will do this when mine arrives
When is your eta?
@@RyanYu it was supposed to ship tofay but hasnt its the second time it got pushed :(
@@realityzoner Good luck bro
Thanks i actually cancelled the orginal pre order to reorder it with a backplate .... big mistake :/ keep up the good work!!!
@@realityzoner The back cover is nice.
Great vid ! is this sufficient for the correct functioning of the cooling system or do you intend to change the water cooling system as well ? Is the cryotech system sufficient and good quality ? thank you man !
The OEM parts are ok for the temps, it just too much RPM and cause more noise.
Awesome 👌
Thank you
No problem.
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@@RyanYu ok i think its in
wow tank you so much
@@mr_bartender73 Just sent it.
thx for the giveaway! great video, hopefully the noc fans won't be purchase limited by amazon as the ML120 pros, I could only buy 3 of those corsair fans
The ML120 can be only purchased 1 order per account...
Thanks for the great video. I upgraded my fans to the Corsair ML120s with your help. They are functioning, but Command Center doesn't seem to have any effect on their speed anymore, meaning I can't change their speed. If I set one of the higher running profiles, the only fan that changes is the stock CPU fan which wasn't upgraded. Any ideas or tips? Thanks!
You should be able to still change their speed
@@RyanYu I reset the CMOS and can change the speed now. But having one other small issue. I added one of the stock fans to the top of the case for exhaust, and command center isn't recognizing the new/extra fan. It's on and spinning, but CC only shows a total of 4 fans still, not 5
Nice to hear the the fans still suck in the new model I have the las generation sounds about right lol
haha, they are the same.
I did this upgrade on my Aurora R13 and get BIOS errors for the front lower fan. Did you have any BIOS errors when performing this upgrade?
NOPE, try to switch around the fans?
I would be cautious doing this. The Noctua fans only run at 2000 rpm max, which is half of the 4000 rpm max rate of the stock fans. I know the Noctua fans are good quality but there is going to be a reduction in the max amount of heat that the Noctua's can handle verses the stock fans. If you don't push your system hard for extended time periods and you really want to lower the noise level this may be a good modification for you but if you push your system to hard you are almost certainly going to run into thermal issues forcing the cpu/gpu to throttle back and reduce performance to prevent damage from high temps.
Like I said, if your demand is really high, then keep the OEM fans.
I replaced all my fans with Noctua I have an A12x25 on my rad then three 1700rpm P12 high performance redux’s as case fans before the swap while gaming I was at 74C now I’m at 50C while gaming i idled at 50C before swapping any fans now I idle at 30C, after replacing the fans I did a cinebench R23 multi core run *( which puts a 100% load on all cores )* and only hit 76C the OEM fans even if they are 4000 rpm blows chode, my GPU is also running 4C cooler while gamine now so I would say those case fans suck I went to 1700 rpm fans and am getting better thermals thanks dells crap
@@shorty808100 Nicely done!
@@shorty808100 Can you explain a little more about how u set em up? My cpu's hitting like low to mid 90's when its doing heavy benches. i9 of course lmfao
Im finding the first demonstration of the arrows pointing correct way confusing as you show them then turn the fan around. Is it the arrow on the fan pointing right, that needs to be same way? sorry for all the questions. Theres two arrows on the fan so im confused which one needs to be pointing same way as the arrow on the case.
Sucked air into case.
I just did the exact same thing. It's awesome but I'm also considering replacing the fan on the cooler with a noctua as well. I don't really care for the rgb since I mostly have that all turned off. Have you tried?
Nope, but should be the samething.
great video! i have the exact same noctua fans & for whatever reason whenever i swap out the OEM lower fan with a noctua, it gives me an error at post. doesnt matter which noctua fan i use either.. it just instantly gives me an error. no clue why but the 2 upper fans work fine!
Did you try to switch around the fans to different ports?
@@RyanYu yeah dude i did that for shits & giggles same thing. from what i read on dells forums its because the speed of the fan isnt fast enough for that port & a new bios update will cause an error to show up if it detects that. gonna get the 3000rpm noctua & see if it fixes it.
@@benzomusicofficial keep me updated.
@@RyanYu will do man thanks!
@@RyanYu i posted a reply to you but i dont know what happened to it, but the new 3000rpm noctua worked for me i dont get that bios error anymore so it definitely has to do with the speed of the fan.
I did this upgrade and got a blue screen, then detection errors on all fans. Dell does NOT like non-OEM and the BIOS detects this and errors out. Fans are spinning and quiet, but system seems a bit unstable for now. Will keep an eye on this. I may just buy a good MOBO and case and transplant the CPU, RAM, and GPU along with the Noctuas, then get a new AIO for the CPU and bump the power up to 1200kw and call it a day.
Did you use the same fans as I did?
@@RyanYu Yes. Seems a common issue according to my research. I seem ok for now. Next issue ia my Windows 11 is blocking my firmware update from Alienware via Defender. Unable to turn off Tamper Protection. Another problem for a different day.
@@OldGregg00 I'm considering if I will but the next gen..
Sorry i couldnt read the temperature difference, what was it?
Like 4-5 degree.
I replaced the fans with the Corsair ML 120 Pro with RGBs and got the startup fan error which is fine. The annoying part is even with the new fans, the R13 still runs too loud. Thinking of switching out the 3080 Ti for a hybrid version with the radiator attached to the front bezel. You think it'll work?
not gonna help.
I personally want to hear mine tho lol that way I know it’s working… great how to vid 🤙🏼
On my r13 I find the stock Foxconn fans quiet, I find the AIO pump on on the CPU makes more noise than the fans on idle , makes an annoying whine.
There may be some noise comes from the PSU too.
@@RyanYu opened the case and put my ear right next to the PSU and there isn’t much noise coming from there on idle. It’s definitely the water cooler pump making the sound.
@@kamac1980 Oh, sht..
My R13 has this same issue with the AIO fan. The other fans are much quieter.
@@aaronhalvorson have you had other AIOs? This is my first watercooler, wasn’t sure what to expect
Did you notice that the new fan speed is fixed up to 45% in AWCC?
Yea, It's normal since the new fans have less RPM.
Hello! Swapped out the fans and got an error on the bottom fan. Swapped the top for the bottom and the error remained with the bottom. Swapped out the bottom fan with a new fan and the error remains. Any suggestions? Thanks!
Which fan are you using?
@@RyanYu Noctua NF-A12x25 Black Thanks!
I recently got the Noctua fans about a week ago the same ones in this video and after a week of having them every time I turn on my PC an error pops up saying that bottom front fan is missing
Does it spin? Can you control it in AWCC?
@@RyanYu yes it spins.. and i can control it
Hi first of all thanks for the video. I just installed three of the same fans on the r13, two of them worked perfectly but there was one that says lower front fan error, what can I do to fix it? Thanks!
Try to switch it from the other ones?
BigFishTech do you mean swapping the lower front fan with the top front fan?
@@jeffreyye1935 since they are all the same fans, switch the one that you have error to a place where has no error to determine if the fan is bad.
Hey did you have to change any settings on the command center after installing the new fans
Nope, it's plug in and play.
@@RyanYu awesome thank you so much I’ve watched all your r13 videos they’re very helpful
Whats the difference between, ( CPU Street Fighter liquid cooling and the CPU Cryotech liquid cooling) , Thank you
That’s their newest cooling technology which provides better temps
I remember when you did the same thing for the r11 thanks my pc is very quiet
The good old days man.
great video! Any reason to use two different fans? Costar ML120 pro seems unavailable
No, I used same brand for all the fans, but these two are are all working in the system.
Nice video I was wondering if the fans were worth upgrading
It depends how picky you are haha.
Hi, do you know where one can find an extra fan bracket for the r13/14 systems? Mine only came with 3 fans total...
try eBay.
I have the feeling that the fan connected to the CPU cooling makes a lot of noise. Is it possible to switch it out too? I already switched out the three other fans for some nocturas
You can switch that one too, but you will not have the RGB anymore.
Do your recommend the Noctuas over the Corsair or are they the same?
I'm using the Noctuas, and I like them
Hi, just noticed that in the ACC the speeds for the 3 installed fans always remains around 45%, never changes even if I put it at 100% in a new profile and then activate the profile properly in the main page of the ACC. Do you know what could be causing this? Thanks!
This is because the upgraded fans have less RPM than the original. The original has 8000RPM and the aftermarket ones have 4000 or so.
Does the Corsair ML120 Pro LED work? I saw the link to the one that doesnt have LEDS. Wondering if this would cause bios issues? My R11has lots of BIOS issues from my current fans which is annoying because i bought the wrong model of the same product. Thanks if you have time to reply
The LED and RGB sometime gives the error codes on starting.
@@RyanYu I appreciate it thanks
Thank you for the useful information. I enjoyed all your Alienware videos. I have got an R13 as well and I am thinking of putting in RGB fans. On the motherboard I can see 7 pin headers for the RGB just above the 4 pin PWM. My Cryo-Tech RGB fan has got a 7 pin and a 4 pin connector but I can't find any other RGB fans with a 7 pin connector. I can't even find a 7 pin to 3 pin RGB adapter. Do you have any idea how can I install RGB fans and connect it to the motherboard RGB header? I prefer not to use a controller box. I guess one solution is to buy the same fan that came with the Cryo-Tech cooler but again I have no idea where to find that.
I think you need a ARGB hub or controllers.
@@RyanYu That's what I was worried of. I won't be able to sync the colors with the rest of the RGB using Alienware Command Center :-(
@@aunkoay nope. You can’t.
Can you say that magic word, proprietary? Alienware decides what you can and can't do to THEIR PCs. RGB fans might one day be included in their options list $$$.
I am getting a bios fan failure every time I boot up. Using the Noctua.
switch another fan?
@@RyanYu I have the same error and I don't think it's a fan issue. People on reddit mentioned that after a BIOS upgrade few months ago, they started having BIOS error at boot. What was suspected is that BIOS check the RPM of fans and since Noctua only goes to 2000 RPM, it may be failing the test. For me, the lower front fan was detected as failure but was working, the top fan wasn't so I replaced it back to stock that one until I find another solution...
The R13 looks so sick bro I should have waited for that one.. can any 3080 fit in the r11
We can't ever catch the tech trend, it's too fast.
The R12 had a bracket in the way so most full size cards wouldn't fit. I have the R13 and there is way more room as the bracket doesn't sit as close. You should be able to slot any standard card in there. Not sure about the larger boutique cards though.
Did the upgrade improved gaming performance and temps?
Performance is about the same, temps a little better, but in heavy load, the OEM is better.
What type of fan would you recommend for this pc that offers both quiet performance and lower temps?
I will go with the ones that I used in the video.
For the r12 is there a way to add a new top fan without removing the cooler or do you have to remove the cooler in order to add a new top fan
You will need to remove it since the space is so tie.
I replaced mine with silent wing 3, not sure why it still sounds loud.
What is the RPM on those?
I kept replaying the first fan on your video and it looks like the arrow pointing right on the fan is what has to face the arrow on the case. is that correct please?
Make sure the arrow is pointing towards inside of the case. So the air will be sucked into case.
@@RyanYu ok thanks
Can you install a Elgato 4K 60 Pro? Does it have room and slot for it?
Is it a pcie*4?
I like these how to videos.
Glad you like them.
Great video!! If I keep my R13 going to change fans as well . How is your running so far?
It’s okay but, like yours it restarts itself on heavy load some time.
@@RyanYu did you call Dell or have you figured it out what causing it?
@@cryout4ahm nope,
@@RyanYu I plan on upgrading ram to 32GB and I have ddr5 4400 . Do you think r13 motherboard will support ddr5 4800?
@@cryout4ahm it will. but DDR5 RAM are so pricy now.
what if you don’t have brackets? do you need them or no
I don't think you really need them.
my r13 has 4000rpm fans. why would I want to change them to lower rpm fans? If it because of noise just make the fan curve not go above 2000rpm boom its quieter lol
I covered it in my newest video.
the temps after the upgrade drops so much !!
It depends on the situation too, if on heavy load, and let it run for a longer time, the OEM has better temps.
Can someone please explain which fans are what on the R13? Top fan is pretty obvious, but which fan is the mid fan, side fan, and front fan? Also, I have noticed that on mine the side fan under load is at 60% fan speed, which gets pretty loud. Is it possible to change the fan lables?
They are all 120mm.
@@RyanYu Thanks for the reply. I understand they are 120mm fans, but from looking at the AWCC I can’t tell where the fans are located in the case. For example, where is the side fan located?
@@hubbellr5 that’s easy, change the fan speed then you will tell which is which.
I am interested in what 120mm fans are the absolute best for temperature and I personally don't care about noise. I stream new games on highest graphics settings using OBS and review their particle aesthetics, I rarely turn off my computer, and my noise-reduction on my microphone is good, so any ideas for best of best in this regard?
If you don't care about the noise, then stay with the OEM fans, they are very good at performance. a lot more RPM and CPM of air than all other fans.
You have mentioned in a couple comments that the stock OEM fans are good performers but they are louder. However the video shows a noise level improvement And a temp improvement. Do you suggest sticking with the stock fans because the temps aren’t much of an improvement or could you clarify. Thanks again for a great video!
@@davidfrancis2163 I will clarify it in the upcoming video bro.
@@davidfrancis2163 I think he means that the other fans are capped at a lower max rpm under sustained heavy load, but idk if he is accounting for manually adjusting the fan curves of both with MSI Afterburner, so I am not sure if his advice is perfect because I do not know his level of manual adjustment... or what levels are possible...
Yeah. The dell fans do spin up extremely fast but are obnoxiously loud. I’m trying to find a sweet spot for high rpm fans and noise. I haven’t been able to find any noise comparisons on high rpm 120mm fans. I guess I might need to just go through some trial and error.
Yo!!! Thanks for the tips. Great looking machine. Just got my X17 R1 3070 165Hz. Was trying to test it side by side with my MSI GE76 Raider 3060 144Hz and wasn’t seeing a ton of difference between a little brighter/crisper screen. Was getting about the same thermals and fps. Not sure if I can justify the $847 price difference. :-( X17 is so pretty though. What would you do if you had the choice? 😂
I will go with X17 for sure. It’s so beautiful.
@@RyanYu it surely is. I got the door buster deal so it was seemingly a lesser model of the X17 so I was nervous I went to cheap on this already expensive model to make the upgrade truly worth it. I wish I had bench mark programs to run.
@@jeremystaggs9018 :)
Very detailed informative videos
Thx.
Hey I have done the same fan swap to mine are you able to set the fan speed to 100% in Awcc ? I can only set to 45% for the noctua fans I assume it’s because the awcc is set up for the stock fans with 100% = 4000rpm and the noctua fans only do 2000rmp max so I’m guessing that’s why it can only go to 45% in awcc that’s what I’m thinking anyway do you see the same in yours
You are correct.
The OEM fans have more RPM than the Noctua, so 45% it's the 100% for Noctua.
Nice, are you going to do the RGB one too?
I bought the RGB and Tried, but there is error codes every time I startup.
@@RyanYu I see, noise doesn't bother me. I just want to upgrade the looks of it. Hopefully you will find a solution for that. Thanks you for all these tutorial vids.
@@tann888 :)
So from your previous video it appears the r13 can take a 3.5 hdd of 4 tb, 2.5 sdd 1 tb and m.2 sdd 1 tb, what would be the max storage capacity I can add?
That, I'm not sure, but I have put in 4TB 3.5, 1TB 2.5, and 1TB M.2, plus the stock 1TB, total 7 TB works fine.
@@RyanYu all together or one at a time
@@EmperorKandyKatsuVonKandai All together.
@@RyanYu interesting, cause I was chatting with a dell support agent and they said 2tb pcie m.2 ssd and 2tb Sara 3 hdd max
When I play the world of Warcraft I saw the fans temperature are around 70-80 is that normal?
Yep
Do I need the cables with the new fan or can i use the fans from the dell fans ? Also while the sound is better it doesnt look like it brings tempd down that much. How much of a different is the temps now
not really that much, 2-5 only, but I did this mainly for the noise.
@@RyanYu Oh right, but it keeps temps down under 80 would you say. Im ready to buy them from your link. They are sold without some cables. If I buy the fans on their own, do they still come with the main wire or do i need to connect it. sorry im new to building
@@RyanYu also can i buy one fan and would it work fine, or do you need all the same fans for it to work
@@garethsmith6611 they will have wires
@@garethsmith6611 it’s idea to have same fans
i have fan issue with my r12 what can i replace the front two with they ramp right up when im on halo ?????????? helppp
What fans did you use?
Haven’t upgraded up about to I wanna upgrade to the nf-f12
@@DRhoneybee You can use the PRO ML-120 or the Noctua either or.
@@RyanYu but for halo my fans ramp right up would tht be a good fan for cooling big time or
@@DRhoneybee it will only help with the noise level by a lot, by cooling, I think the OEM is little better.
hey i got the R12 and its so loud and over heats i have no liquid cooling or better fans what should i do?
You need to change the fans to lower the noise, overheats, you can try to undervolt.
You really need to have liquid coooling. No fan is going to solve your problem. Liquid cooling is an absolute necessity for these PCs. It should be made standard on all models.
what is a good fan that is quiet and very good with temps
@@futureontop I have them in the description.
@@RyanYu hey! i want to add a liquid cooling into my AW R12 but its already at my house, and its for christmas, but like how do i install it on a AW and like which one is good? Cant i pay for the geek squad to do it for me?
Did you maintain cooling?
yep
What were the temperatures before and after the change under heavy load?
The OEM has better temps on that for long running time since it have more RPM.
@@RyanYu So why did you downgrade it?
@@borisrazmiki8296 I don't have it in heavy load that often. so this is okay for me.
Hi, do I need to change the fan speed in Alienware Command Center after changing out the fans? Thanks in advance!
Nope, it can be still auto managed.
@@RyanYu Thanks!
I wanted to have the Cryo Tech Liquid Cooling that has LED/RGB Logo. Does anyone know where I can purchase them? I talked to Dell and they are out of stock. I am willing to swap, buy the heatsink if anyone is interested. I have the one with the logo without the LED. Thank you very much. I have Alienware Aurora R14.
Try Dell Customer Service, just ask for that part, sometime they can give you a link to purchase it.
@@RyanYu Thank you for your reply, I tried my luck asking them for the part. But, they said its out of stock and trying my luck here.
If you get the RGB fan will the lighting work?
The RGB ones work, but it gives me error codes every time I start up the PC.
How about high rpm or more airflow than the current ones vs. Stock. I need better cooling as I use it for mining. Any fan suggestions?
then stay with the OEM, it has more RPM, so for long time running it's better.
@@RyanYu Is the RPM the only measure? Shouldn't it be air volume pre hour?
@@SKarea51 more spinning = more air.
@@RyanYu Sure, but the blades design has impact on airflow as well. Did you have any BIOS issues after swapping the vents?
@@SKarea51 nope. These two brands are good
I tried change three fans like this video. And my one kept saying failed while starting. Idk how to fix this issue.. please help me 😢
Switch the fans around?
@@RyanYu front low, front top and top
@@BackGOMs I meant to switch the one that has issue to another port?
@@RyanYu all fans are still working well in normal. But in heavyload situation, the fans are still working same as before.(didn’t changed RPM) Also My Aurora 13 doesn’t recognise the fans that I changed.
@@BackGOMs as long as it works I don’t really care that much then.
bro what about this Corsair ML120 Pro ??
Had this system for a while, going for a custom build now and wont get pre builts again. this was a nice system in terms of performance and never had any issues. But the CPU on some games like the new spiderman game is ready 90 to 98c which is unacceptable. Ive tried everything and this system is simply a dumpster fire.
liquid cool?
@@RyanYu Yes, Liquid cooled. Apparently after resarching about this, the cooler isnt good enough to deal with temps. Not sure if it is entirely true, but dell are aware of heat issues because they have a new alienware r15 model coming out this holiday and they boast about better cooling, so they know this one isnt the best. I just got tried of worrying about thermals so sending it back and getting a custom build now and the stock fans and whining noise from the system got on my nerves.
Hi, i noticed that the original fans are 4000rpm, and noctua ones are 2000rpm only but better temperature?
In the low and mid load short time the noctua better, in the heavy load and long run the OEM is better.
@@RyanYu the OEM is way too noisy.. and looks like i got a faulty one it’s making a sharp rubbing sounds.. my cpu temperature is about 60-65 when gaming, probably i should change 2 front ones
@@luzhou8241 change all three man.
@@RyanYu alright, i ll follow u! Also waiting for a better and cheaper ddr5 gonna replace them all, any suggestion?
@@luzhou8241 Don't get them now. wait for a few month.
Can i replace the fan on the CPU cooller ?
So the noctua going on the top?
All three.